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| 03:53 | ahmad joined #koha | |
| 03:53 | ahmad | hlw everyone |
| 03:53 | How are you? | |
| 03:54 | I am facing session time out problem with Latest koha installation in Ubuntu 22.04 | |
| 03:54 | anybody can help me | |
| 04:02 | hlw | |
| 04:02 | anybody here/ | |
| 04:06 | hlw | |
| 04:06 | anybody can help | |
| 04:06 | :? | |
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| 05:32 | ahmad | hlw |
| 05:33 | I am facing session time out problem with Latest koha installation in Ubuntu 22.04 | |
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| 06:55 | ahmad | hl;w |
| 06:55 | anybody here | |
| 06:55 | I am facing session time out problem with Latest koha installation in Ubuntu 22.04 | |
| 06:55 | someone can help me | |
| 06:56 | Joubu | what's your problem exactly? |
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| 07:10 | * cait1 | waves |
| 07:28 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 07:32 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
| 07:32 | magnuse | guten morgen cait |
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| 07:47 | aroussos | Hello everyone! |
| 07:48 | I am trying to add a new Koha to MARC mapping association (new field 942,h for biblioitems.cn_class) through our "Books" bibliographic MARC framework (clone of the "Default" framework), but it does not register in Koha to MARC mapping. | |
| 07:48 | Do I need to do it only through the "Default" bibliographic MARC framework? I thought that making changes to the "Default" framework is not a good idea... | |
| 07:51 | Joubu | aroussos: To edit a mapping you should do it in "Koha to MARC mapping" |
| 07:52 | in new versions of Koha the edition is no longer possible from the frameworks | |
| 08:01 | aroussos | Joubu: Thanks for the prompt reply |
| 08:01 | Joubu: OK, we now tried to add the mapping in "Koha to MARC mapping" | |
| 08:01 | Joubu: But because the subfield we want to map to does not yet exist in our clone of the "Default" framework, it still doesn't work | |
| 08:02 | Joubu: So, we had to add the new subfield (942$h) in the "Default" framework, in order to register the association in "Koha to MARC mapping" | |
| 08:02 | Joubu: (We're on a UNIMARC instance, BTW) | |
| 08:04 | Joubu: Interestingly, once we've registered the Koha to MARC mapping, as soon as we created 942$h in our "Books" framework too, it picked up the association automatically | |
| 08:24 | Joubu | yes, the mapping you defined in "Koha to MARC mapping" will be used by all the frameworks |
| 08:26 | which is not what shows the DB structure: the "mapping" is actually the value defined in marc_subfield_structure.kohafield for the default framework | |
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| 08:30 | cait | I think there is a bug there in that it silently fails if the subfield/field was not defined yet in the default framework |
| 08:31 | gk_ | koha opac detail page error- Sorry, the requested page is not available Errot: 500 but works fine in intranet, on Debian 12, MariaDB 10.11.3, Koha 23.05.02 |
| 08:37 | ahmad | I am facing session time out problem with Latest koha installation in Ubuntu 22.04 |
| 08:37 | cait | gk_: is it only that one page or do all detail pages not work? |
| 08:37 | ahmad | All pages |
| 08:37 | cait | a common reason for detai page breaking is if the items don't ahve itemtypes set |
| 08:38 | gk_ | all detail pages do not load |
| 08:38 | cait | for session timeout check the timeout system preference |
| 08:38 | ahmad | have checked |
| 08:38 | cait | do other pages of the OPAC load? |
| 08:38 | ahmad | have checked system preferences |
| 08:38 | it set 4d and mysqldatabse | |
| 08:39 | cait | not srue about the timeout, but about your deatil pages: do you have anything in OpacHiddenItems? |
| 08:40 | ahmad | anybody can help regarding timeout problem |
| 08:40 | it set 4d and mysqldatabse | |
| 08:41 | I am facing session time out problem with Latest koha installation in Ubuntu 22.04 and Koha 23.05.02 | |
| 08:45 | gk_ | all other pages load, but click on title throw error |
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| 08:59 | MatthewBlenkinsop[m] | Morning Koha - As promised at Kohacon I've made some changes to the docs on installing and configuring git-bz to make them more user-friendly for non-devs and remove outdated info. If anyone doesn't currently have it installed locally and wants to give it a try, please do and let me know if any further improvements can be made :) I've only amended sections 1.1 and 1.2, the rest still seems pretty up to date |
| 09:00 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_bz_configuration | |
| 09:12 | ahmad | I am facing session time out problem with Latest koha installation in Ubuntu 22.04 and Koha 23.05.02 |
| 09:16 | paulderscheid[m] | Anyone else having problems w/ fetching node_modules rn? |
| 09:25 | cait2 | ahmad: you didn't answer my question about OpacHiddenItems |
| 09:27 | cait joined #koha | |
| 09:27 | cait | MatthewBlenkinsop++ |
| 09:27 | sorry for ht ename updates... unstable VPN | |
| 09:28 | ahmad | ciat2: not set opachiden item |
| 09:42 | angelic joined #koha | |
| 09:43 | gk_ | koha opac detail page error- Sorry, the requested page is not available Error: 500 but works fine in intranet, on Debian 12, MariaDB 10.11.3, Koha 23.05.02 |
| 09:44 | Joubu | gk_: looks at the Koha logs on the server |
| 09:45 | ahmad | I am facing session time out problem with Latest koha installation in Ubuntu 22.04 and Koha 23.05.02 |
| 09:45 | Joubu | ahmad: we don't have answer to your question, you must provide more information |
| 09:45 | ahmad: please stop asking the same question again and again | |
| 09:50 | angelic | Hello to everyone. I need your help about a SQL report. I would be very glad if someone could help. We want a list of users we have discharge. If people on this list have borrowed material, we want them to appear on the list as well. If the person has borrowed more than one material, they can repeat the information in the list. |
| 09:51 | ahmad | Joubu: you should not say this. you are not only one here to answer the quesions. I have problem. so i am asking |
| 09:53 | Joubu | what's your problem exactly? (or see https://irc.koha-community.org[…]3-08-31#i_2505460 question I've asked you already and you didn't answer) |
| 09:53 | ahmad: ^^ | |
| 09:54 | ahmad | Joubu: my koha logout repetedly. If idle few times it logout but set session perfectly at system preferences |
| 09:55 | Joubu | angelic: how can they be discharged and have checked out items? Is that possible? |
| 09:55 | ahmad: what's your version of Koha? | |
| 09:55 | ahmad: did you restart the different services? memcached + koha-common | |
| 09:57 | cait | angelic: do you use the discharge restriction? as Joubu said it should not be psosible to have checked out items then |
| 09:58 | but maybe you are using a different workflow? | |
| 09:59 | best to talk about what you exactly need, before making suggestions | |
| 09:59 | (need to know how you discharge, to write the SQL) | |
| 09:59 | or did you mean borrowed in the past maybe? | |
| 10:06 | lunch time, bbiab | |
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| 10:57 | ahmad | joubu: Koha 23.05.02 |
| 10:57 | Joubu: i am using Koha 23.05.02 | |
| 11:03 | Joubu | ok, second question? |
| 11:10 | ahmad | yes restarted the services |
| 11:11 | restarted Koha plack and memcached | |
| 11:24 | aroussos | ahmad: When the session timeout occurs, do you get something like this screenshot? https://snipboard.io/7BKr6o.jpg |
| 11:27 | ahmad | aroussos: yes like this |
| 11:27 | https://snipboard.io/7BKr6o.jpg | |
| 11:28 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:29 | ahmad | yes |
| 11:29 | cait | MatthewBlenkinsop++ |
| 11:29 | hi oleonard | |
| 11:29 | ahmad | hi |
| 11:40 | Hlw | |
| 11:40 | everyone | |
| 11:41 | I am facing session time out problem with Latest koha installation in Ubuntu 22.04 and Koha 23.05.02 | |
| 11:42 | cait | ahmad: have you tried updating the timeout system preference to a different value |
| 11:42 | ? | |
| 11:43 | I see we have 1d in our setup - and no spaces etc. after | |
| 11:44 | khall joined #koha | |
| 11:45 | aroussos | ahmad: OK, thanks for confirming. I'd like you to check a couple more items for me please: |
| 11:46 | ahmad: 1) Current date/time in the computer you use to access Koha, and on the server that hosts the ILS. Perhaps the clocks have drifted apart? (this can happen due to NTP issues, for example) | |
| 11:47 | ahmad: 2) How is your SessionRestrictionByIP system preference set up? Does your IP address change frequently for some reason? (I think it can theoretically happen if you use IPv6, but then again not so frequently perhaps...) | |
| 11:48 | ahmad: 3) You mentioned earlier that you've set SessionStorage => MySQL database. This is a long shot, but I'm wondering if the disk partition that holds your DB has become full somehow? (thus being unable to create new entries in the 'sessions' table) | |
| 11:55 | oleonard | Would it be okay to include a do-not-push updatedatabase with a patch in order to make it easier for testing? I can't remember if that's been done before. I'm thinking it would help someone who wanted to test in a sandbox. |
| 12:01 | khall joined #koha | |
| 12:14 | cait | oleonard: I'd say why not :) |
| 12:15 | oleonard | Thanks cait. During Hackfest I realized that an sql file or a script doesn't work to for sandbox users |
| 12:17 | cait | if you clearly label it as don't push I see no reason why not to - maybe also as a comment in the file? |
| 12:17 | tcohen[m] ? | |
| 12:17 | tcohen[m] | hola |
| 12:17 | cait | hola |
| 12:17 | tcohen[m] | what's up? |
| 12:17 | I'm finishing my new laptop setup \o/ | |
| 12:17 | cait | congrats :) |
| 12:18 | was referring to oleonards question: Would it be okay to include a do-not-push updatedatabase with a patch in order to make it easier for testing? I can't remember if that's been done before. I'm thinking it would help someone who wanted to test in a sandbox. | |
| 12:18 | (I allowed it already, so you can#t say no now ;) ) | |
| 12:18 | oleonard | "C'mon dad, mom said I could!!" |
| 12:19 | tcohen[m] | sure, add a clear '[DO NOT PUSH]' |
| 12:19 | cait | see ;) |
| 12:20 | oleonard | cait: It's important to let dad think it was his idea :D |
| 12:21 | cait | you can tell I lack the experience there... |
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| 12:37 | magnuse | lulz |
| 12:38 | tcohen[m]: i think it was you who mentioned a project to create official docker images for koha? is the wip available somewhere? our tech guys are very interested in running koha with docker, and might be able to contribute at some point | |
| 12:55 | tcohen[m] | look at docker/koha-docker in the community gitlab |
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| 12:56 | tcohen[m] | I plan to publish docker images along with the usual .deb files, on the 23.11 release |
| 12:57 | and then try to do hte same for the *oldstable branches | |
| 12:58 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 12:58 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 12:58 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 12:58 | bywater++ | |
| 12:58 | bywater++ | |
| 12:59 | bywater++ | |
| 12:59 | Lots of RAM and CPU for our git server, Joubu | |
| 13:00 | and her sysadmin magic to block bots, etc | |
| 13:00 | Joubu | great |
| 13:04 | cait | did we move it? |
| 13:05 | tcohen[m] | she did what she had to do |
| 13:08 | cait | ah, i had confused services/hosts |
| 13:08 | bywater++ wizzyrea++ | |
| 13:13 | Joubu | 2=>4 CPUs and 8=>16G RAM, is that it? |
| 13:14 | tcohen[m] | yes |
| 13:14 | no | |
| 13:14 | 4 GB => 16 GB | |
| 13:14 | but the firewall/fail2ban intervention is key | |
| 13:16 | Joubu | fail2ban was installed IIRC |
| 13:23 | tcohen[m] | yeah, but it was not catching all the things it does now |
| 13:24 | can you check the (minor) PR on ktd? | |
| 13:24 | Joubu | if you check mine :D |
| 13:24 | tcohen[m] | I can |
| 13:24 | once RDA is ready | |
| 13:24 | :-P | |
| 13:24 | caroline | lol |
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| 13:27 | mtreskonmuse[m] | Hi, I am Matthew Treskon, Metadata Strategist for Project MUSE (platform of JHU Press for many academic university presses). I am new, generally unfamiliar with Koha. Is there interest from the Koha community in our data (holdings data via KBART, MARC records, article data in JATS)? Where would be the best place for me to ask this question? |
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| 13:33 | ahmad | DBD::mysql::db do failed: Unknown or incorrect time zone: 'Asia/Dhaka' at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Database.pm line 117 |
| 13:34 | caroline | mtreskonmuse[m], I can't speak for the whole community, but I think it would fall to each individual library to determine if they want to include the records or not. You could send an email to the mailing list to say that the records are available to any who want to have them |
| 13:35 | mtreskonmuse[m] | Thanks Caroline, how do I get to the mailing list? |
| 13:35 | caroline | also, Koha doesn't currently support holdings unfortunately, it's something that is definitely missing, but not enough for someone to sponsor the development it seems |
| 13:36 | Joubu | mtreskonmuse[m]: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha |
| 13:36 | caroline | mtreskonmuse[m], https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha |
| 13:36 | oops, Jobou is faster ;) | |
| 13:38 | mtreskonmuse[m] | Thanks Caroline, good to know Koha is not holdings based. I can send an inquiry out to the email list but I think you right, it would be up to the library. If the library already is a customer, I imagine they are already familiar with how to get our MARC. However, I can offer MARC for our OA titles |
| 13:38 | cait | there is develooment, but it lacks testing :) |
| 13:39 | Bug 20447 - Add support for MARC holdings records | |
| 13:39 | we need more parties interested to make it happen I think | |
| 13:40 | caroline | 688 comments!! |
| 13:40 | cait | lots of patches yes |
| 13:41 | Joubu | ahmad: https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refm[…]zinfo-to-sql.html |
| 13:42 | cait | cya tomorrow |
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| 13:59 | angelic | cait: Hello cait. Yes, they said that those records were available previously. |
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| 15:51 | oleonard | This is interesting: https://phosphoricons.com/ |
| 16:00 | paulderscheid[m] | Looks good oleonard |
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| 17:40 | caroline | I think someone was asking for the official openlibrary MARC code, i saw it was just added https://www.loc.gov/marc/relat[…]/tn230808src.html |
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| 23:23 | dcook | @later tell caroline Yeah I asked that person to send a request to the Library of Congress to add it and they did! |
| 23:23 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:28 | dcook | @later tell mtreskonmuse[m] Have you thought of adding a Z39.50 or SRU endpoint? |
| 23:28 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:38 | tuxayo | dcook: hi :) IIRC you knew about some Koha instances running on old OSes. Was it CentOS 6 ? |
| 23:39 | dcook | RHEL 6 but same diff |
| 23:39 | tuxayo: So yup good memory heh | |
| 23:40 | tuxayo | Are they still updating their Koha? |
| 23:41 | dcook | Yes and no haha |
| 23:41 | it's an old custom version. So it'll get security updates but it doesn't get new features. | |
| 23:42 | At some point, they'll upgrade the OS and then they'll need a newly customized Koha | |
| 23:42 | What's the root of your question? Looking to have a newer Koha run on an older OS? | |
| 23:51 | tuxayo | dcook: I recalled this instance was an example of why we need to ensure supporting version old perl versions. I don't have a feature in mind that would require more than the current 5.14 (which is more than the 5.10 of RHEL 6 XD). |
| 23:51 | I was just curious about what would be the bar now. Since this instance is already out of the sysreqs and is not having their Koha updated, it doesn't matter anymore. | |
| 23:51 | To keep that in mind if the question comes up. | |
| 23:52 | I think I've only seen minor stuff that would require > 5.14 | |
| 23:58 | dcook | tuxayo: Oh yeah no. I don't think we should be supporting RHEL 6 anymore |
| 23:58 | Technically, it looks like there's still "Extended Lifestyle support" for it but any real support for RHEL 6 ended years ago | |
| 23:59 | I probably argued the opposite in the past, but these days I think it's better to have Koha have modern requirements and that just means people need to keep up |
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