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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:00 | mtj | Search::Elasticsearch::Client::6_0 |
| 00:00 | Search::Elasticsearch::Client::7_0 | |
| 00:01 | so, if you are using ES6 on deb11, you are using libsearch-elasticsearch-perl (7.30-1) | |
| 00:01 | https://packages.debian.org/bu[…]lasticsearch-perl | |
| 00:02 | ..which means you are calling ES6 from the Search::Elasticsearch::Client::7_0 module | |
| 00:02 | tuxayo | mtj is there compat? |
| 00:03 | mtj | it *seems* to be compatible, but thats just luck, (at the moment) |
| 00:03 | tuxayo | > users are supposed to set their ES version |
| 00:03 | IIUC from your last info, yes there is compat but it's not automagic | |
| 00:04 | mtj | Elasticsearch::Client::7_0 code seems to work with ES6 |
| 00:04 | newer versions may break etc | |
| 00:04 | tuxayo | Ah yes, since ES 6 is EOL |
| 00:05 | mtj | deb10/buster uses an older v6.00 version |
| 00:05 | https://packages.debian.org/bu[…]lasticsearch-perl | |
| 00:05 | libsearch-elasticsearch-perl (6.00-1) | |
| 00:05 | tuxayo | Can we stay on a fixed version in our repo to have both ES 6 & 7 support without config need? |
| 00:05 | And change version when dropping ES 6 | |
| 00:05 | wahanui | tuxayo: that doesn't look right |
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| 00:06 | tuxayo | wahanui: lol, that looked a legit relevant answer to the context |
| 00:06 | wahanui | tuxayo: sorry... |
| 00:06 | mtj | its probably possible to get the ES version, from ES itself |
| 00:07 | ..rather than setting it in a config file | |
| 00:07 | tuxayo | Yes, in bug25669 it was discussion but it would be some more work to not spam version requests. |
| 00:07 | *it was discussed | |
| 00:07 | mtj | we could package/install both *::client versions 6 and 7 |
| 00:08 | ..and have some clever code to use the correct *::client version | |
| 00:08 | tuxayo | But still need a config switch or a version check. |
| 00:08 | mtj | but, its also a bunch of extra work :) |
| 00:09 | tuxayo | We might not avoid a version check soon depending on how much ES and OpenSearch diverge. So I might be worried for nothing. |
| 00:09 | And would better hurry up submitting patches to koha-elasticsearch-icu to have OS 2.X and check if it works | |
| 00:13 | mtj | considering ES6 is unsuported from feb 2022, do we really want to encourge people to continue to use it? |
| 00:13 | answer = no | |
| 00:17 | anyhoo, if someone works out some code to get the ES version from ES, we can have both versions | |
| 00:19 | tuxayo | > do we really want to encourge people to continue to use it? |
| 00:19 | Forcing to switch to ES 7 is forcing to switch to a non-libre dependency. | |
| 00:19 | It seems OpenSearch 1.x works though. | |
| 00:22 | mtj | aah, i had forgotten about the ES license change |
| 00:22 | its ES 7.11 with the new license, it seems | |
| 00:22 | tuxayo | yes |
| 00:23 | > if someone works out some code to get the ES version from ES, we can have both versions | |
| 00:23 | To get it was already done in a proposal. But the additional work is to not spam it and impact perf. Or to do actual testing to confirm it's an issue. (maybe we complicated the issue a lot without a reason ^^" ) | |
| 00:23 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ticsearch/Indexer.pm_sec2 | |
| 00:25 | mtj | lets use memcache to store the ES version |
| 00:27 | ok patch looks good :) | |
| 00:27 | problem solved | |
| 00:27 | tuxayo | > lets use memcache to store the ES version |
| 00:27 | oh it's that simple 🤦 | |
| 00:28 | mtj | if someone installs a new ES version, they will have to restart memcache :) |
| 00:28 | ..and pet a kitten 🐱 | |
| 00:28 | tuxayo | > ok patch looks good :) |
| 00:28 | > problem solved | |
| 00:28 | Then the fear of perf issues was raised and memcache wasn't mentioned directly. So that patch version didn't end up merged. | |
| 00:29 | > if someone installs a new ES version, they will have to restart memcache :) | |
| 00:29 | Of course. | |
| 00:30 | Gotta go, thanks mtj for the info. I'll keep that I mind when ES & OS versions topic comes up again. | |
| 00:30 | mtj | we will have to ignore the koha.conf ES setting |
| 00:31 | ok, cya tuxayo | |
| 00:31 | tuxayo | > we will have to ignore the koha.conf ES setting |
| 00:31 | ? If someone implement version checks? Yes indeed. | |
| 04:04 | dcook | Looks like 40 authors is the most we've ever had in 1 month.. |
| 04:05 | Looks like it's usually between 20-40 people.. | |
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| 05:50 | domm[m] | mtj: Thanks for the info regarding ElasticSearch 7! |
| 06:00 | dcook | Of course I have to run just as the Europeans are coming alive hehe |
| 06:08 | domm[m] | at least your now moving onto spring & summer :-) |
| 06:08 | ashimema | Man it's misty/foggy here |
| 06:09 | Morning | |
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| 06:29 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 06:30 | a new look on staff ! | |
| 06:33 | bug 31743 needs a signoff ! | |
| 06:33 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31743 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Cannot change my notice language when EnhancedMessagingPreferencesOPAC is off |
| 06:33 | marcelr | simple patch |
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| 06:34 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:34 | wahanui | salut, reiveune |
| 06:34 | marcelr | hi reiveune |
| 06:49 | alex_ joined #koha | |
| 06:49 | alex_ | Bonjour |
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| 07:05 | marcelr | bonjour alex_ |
| 07:18 | alex_ | Hello marcelr |
| 08:30 | ashimema | ooh.. |
| 08:41 | marcelr | hi ashimema |
| 08:41 | ashimema | morning |
| 08:41 | marcelr | did you still have bug 30588 on your radar ? |
| 08:41 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30588 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Add the option to require 2FA setup on first staff login |
| 09:00 | ashimema | ah yes.. I do |
| 09:00 | so many bugs 😚 | |
| 09:19 | ooh... was it deliberate to switch the front page icon/buttons back in the staff client ui? | |
| 09:20 | I liked the ones that are still present in the circ home page now | |
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| 09:38 | AnkeB | Good morning everybody. I just realized there seems to be a dead link when clicking Help from the staff client's Global System Preferences Page in V22.05. This applies to German and English language. Is this a known bug? Should I file a bug? |
| 09:39 | ashimema | I think it's a know bug.. I fixed some things there and I'm not sure the patch has been backported yet.. |
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| 09:42 | AnkeB | Thanks, can you give me the bug id or a hint what I could search for in the bugs? |
| 09:43 | * cait1 | waves |
| 09:44 | cait1 | I thnk martin wat thinksing of bug 31465 |
| 09:44 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31465 trivial, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Link system preference tabs to correct manual pages |
| 09:45 | ashimema | bug 31465 |
| 09:45 | cait1 | what does the broken link look like? |
| 09:49 | ashimema | man I need some coffee |
| 09:51 | * marcelr | sends 3 liter to ashimema |
| 09:51 | cait1 | that might be overdoing it.... |
| 09:51 | marcelr | oops |
| 09:52 | why do I always forget that $dbh->do only wants 1 statement ;) | |
| 09:56 | AnkeB | Hm, bug 31465 is marked as pushed to master, shouldn't it be correct then in a recently installed 22.05? |
| 09:56 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31465 trivial, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Link system preference tabs to correct manual pages |
| 09:56 | Oak joined #koha | |
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| 09:57 | marcelr | bbl |
| 10:02 | cait joined #koha | |
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| 10:30 | AnkeB | I see now that bugfix for 31465 was pushed to master for 22.11. So in 22.05 it's not yet working. |
| 10:30 | oleonard | Hi all |
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| 10:43 | ashimema | Correct AnkeB.. it needs backporting |
| 10:43 | morning oleonard.. | |
| 10:43 | lots of bugs to fix today 😛 | |
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| 10:49 | AnkeB | ashimema I just corrected the lines manually in my Manual.pm. But it would be good to have the correction in 22.05, if anyone cares to do it :-) |
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| 10:58 | tundunf | hi all! |
| 11:06 | ashimema | Hi tundumf |
| 11:06 | it's in the rmaints queue AnkeB | |
| 11:06 | they just haven't gotten to it yet. | |
| 11:24 | alex_ joined #koha | |
| 11:42 | ashimema | sorry oleonard ... I'm throwing lots of little bugs your way this morning for opinions and final fixes 🙂 |
| 11:44 | cait joined #koha | |
| 11:47 | cait1 joined #koha | |
| 11:48 | marcelr joined #koha | |
| 11:48 | marcelr | o/ |
| 11:52 | oleonard | No problem ashimema it is to be expected |
| 11:57 | ashimema | 🙂 |
| 11:57 | team effort now | |
| 12:06 | sorry for all the noise jajm | |
| 12:07 | jajm | i like that kind of noise :) thank you for that |
| 12:07 | ashimema | : ) |
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| 12:34 | ashimema | well.. I'm filling up the Academy queue. |
| 12:38 | tuxayo | AnkeB: hi :) Happy to see you hanging around here. Just when I'm doing a patch testing session with french speakers ^^ (attendance of 1 for now...) |
| 12:58 | ashimema | I was contemplating putting a call out on the main lists for people wanting to get their names in the release notes.. loads of easy academy ones now |
| 12:59 | Just add a class (or div with class in some cases) | |
| 13:00 | tuxayo | That could motivate a few :) |
| 13:01 | Own name + institution name. | |
| 13:15 | khall joined #koha | |
| 13:20 | ashimema | indeed |
| 13:27 | done | |
| 13:31 | AnkeB | tuxayo: Hopefully some more people attended meanwhile. Have fun |
| 13:42 | tuxayo | ashimema++ nice email |
| 13:42 | AnkeB: there is still time, in parallel I can still catch up on other stuff | |
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| 13:56 | Pascal | Hello, today we tried for the first time to use the --where extension of membership_expiry.pl ( https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28456 ). Using it for example with borrowernumber works, but when I use it the same way with the categorycode I always get an error. Although the categorycode actually exists. Can anyone here reproduce this error? |
| 13:56 | huginn` | Bug 28456: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, CLOSED FIXED, Add option to use a WHERE statement in membership_expiry.pl cronjob |
| 13:57 | domm left #koha | |
| 14:23 | marcelr | bug 31775 is ready for testing :) |
| 14:23 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31775 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Show opac_info of single library |
| 14:23 | marcelr | small regression |
| 14:23 | bbl | |
| 14:30 | reiveune left #koha | |
| 14:46 | tcohen | marcelr++ # taking care of bugs |
| 14:54 | ashimema | hummm |
| 14:54 | oleonard the scroll to position bit of bug 23410 appears to be broken?# | |
| 14:54 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=23410 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Add submenus to system preferences sidebar menu |
| 14:55 | ashimema | i.e. search for a pref, click the 'View all X preferences' link.. it opens the right page/tab, but doesn't scroll the page to subsection. |
| 14:55 | hugs | |
| 14:56 | @later tell oleonard the scroll to position bit of bug 23410 appears to be broken? | |
| 14:56 | huginn` | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:18 | tuxayo | nugged: bug 29012 hasn't actually been released. No need for a releasable data fix. I hope it's not too hard to manually fix on your test libraries. |
| 15:18 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29012 major, P5 - low, ---, kevin.carnes, Pushed to stable , Some rules are not saved when left blank while editing a 'rule' line in smart-rules.pl |
| 15:18 | tuxayo | nugged++ good job on finding it out before it has been released |
| 15:19 | (finding that it causes a regression) | |
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| 16:20 | ashimema | cait around? |
| 16:20 | wahanui | cait around is cait cait1 cait2 cait3 cait4 cait5 |
| 16:22 | nugged | tuxayo: |
| 16:22 | > bug 29012 hasn't actually been released. | |
| 16:22 | I acted on as released because "Backported to 22.05.x for 22.05.06" was said there and it was in 22.05 "crude" branch. But if it is delayed and not in .deb for the people - ok then we can just re-do both 29012 and 31727 as single solution without "changing and fix-changing" DB twice because even fix becomes very complicated too and probable of "false positives/even more regressions". | |
| 16:22 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29012 major, P5 - low, ---, kevin.carnes, Pushed to stable , Some rules are not saved when left blank while editing a 'rule' line in smart-rules.pl |
| 16:23 | nugged | tuxayo: if you or others won't let it go into 22.05 then it's better to never run that atomic update in old (current) version |
| 16:24 | tuxayo | nugged: |
| 16:24 | > I acted on as released because "Backported to 22.05.x for 22.05.06" | |
| 16:24 | The phrasing we use is confusing. We should say something like "for the upcomming 22.05.06" | |
| 16:24 | > But if it is delayed and not in .deb for the people - ok then we can just re-do both 29012 and 31727 as single solution | |
| 16:24 | yes, it's simpler! | |
| 16:25 | oleonard | ashimema: I noticed that too about the prefs links |
| 16:26 | tuxayo | I'm immediately changing my phrasing when backporting stuff for oldoldstable and will tell the others RMaint to do the same. Sorry that it triggered unnecessarily work. |
| 16:29 | nugged: Would that be good enough? «Backported: Pushed to 21.05.x branch for the upcoming release (21.05.19)» | |
| 16:32 | > if you or others won't let it go into 22.05 | |
| 16:32 | Indeed, won't happen lukeg and liliputech should revert it soon from 22.05 and 21.11. So it won't be released. | |
| 16:32 | ashimema | is it a staff client ui refresh bug.. or did it happen before that was pushed.. |
| 16:32 | I'm not sure. | |
| 16:32 | oleonard | ashimema: before |
| 16:32 | ashimema | ah.. okies |
| 16:33 | well.. I've added another follow-up to the option 2 on that sysprefs page-section bug.. | |
| 16:33 | it comments out the css.. in case we still need it when we fix scrolling.. | |
| 16:33 | no sure how to proceed there really. | |
| 16:33 | and.. with that.. it's time for me to clock of for the evening.. | |
| 16:33 | kids calling | |
| 16:33 | byeeeee | |
| 16:36 | nugged | tuxayo++ |
| 16:36 | tuxayo: so: should we change 29012 status to WONTFIX or INVALID and re-create a fully new solution somewhere in 31727 as not-blocker then I will communicate with the author (Kevin Carnes) and now commenting in | |
| 16:37 | tuxayo: so: should we ask oldRMs to change 29012 status to WONTFIX or INVALID and re-create a fully new solution somewhere in 31727 then? | |
| 16:37 | lukeg | tuxayo: I will revert the 29012 patchset from stable today, thanks! |
| 16:37 | tuxayo | lukeg great :D |
| 16:37 | nugged | (there was an edit to the message, so v2) |
| 16:38 | lukeg: thanks! | |
| 16:39 | lukeg | also making note and will change my message when backporting to "backported to 22.05.x for upcoming 22.05.06 release" |
| 16:39 | sorry for the confusion | |
| 16:42 | tuxayo | > should we change 29012 status to WONTFIX or INVALID |
| 16:42 | «Some rules are not saved when left blank while editing a 'rule' line in smart-rules.pl» | |
| 16:42 | This is still valid and we want to fix it IIUC. | |
| 16:43 | You might want to start a new ticket to have a simpler comment history. And set 29012 as BLOCKED and having it depend on the new ticket. | |
| 16:43 | > re-create a fully new solution somewhere in 31727 | |
| 16:43 | isn't bug 31727 invalid/won't fix since 29012 wasn't released. Better have a new ticket to not have confusion with the invalid premise of 31727 | |
| 16:43 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31727 critical, P5 - low, ---, kevin.carnes, Needs Signoff , Orphan records in circulation_rules and false positives after attempt to fix values to be empty or zeroes instead of missing |
| 16:44 | tuxayo | Or just put 29012 back to assigned/in discussion if the comment history of it isn't an issue. |
| 16:47 | nugged | 31727 not needed at all if no old 29012 code |
| 16:48 | so - tuxayo - or team - pls advise: new ticket or re-use 29012 but obsolete all in 29012? | |
| 16:49 | tuxayo | nugged: If you hesitate and don't get other feedback, go with a new ticket. Set 29012 as blocked, and dependent on the new ticket. |
| 16:49 | > 31727 not needed at all if no old 29012 code | |
| 16:49 | Perfect, that's simpler. | |
| 16:50 | nugged | I'll ask the author (Kevin Carnes) to re-do 29012 then. |
| 16:56 | tuxayo | Great thanks. |
| 16:57 | Happy to see Kevin still around even after the ES 7 patches ^^ | |
| 16:58 | nugged | I've set "fixed/invalid" now for 31727 and reverted 29012 to the "assigned" state. |
| 16:58 | ok, time for home tasks then now. 🤗 | |
| 16:58 | tuxayo | 👍️ |
| 17:04 | bag++ Thanks for calling for help to signoff bugs during your talk in KohaCon especially to Koha US members. | |
| 17:04 | The 1st patch testing session I did was too close to KohaCon I think, so that's why noone from Northern America showed up. | |
| 17:04 | But hopefully the next one will work. I'll send a poll for the date in the next days. | |
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| 17:36 | lukeg | tuxayo, nugged: 29012 is reverted from 22.05.x |
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| 17:44 | emlam | Hello all! I'm new to the Koha community - just joined the Koha team at a library on the US east coast. Looking forward to wrapping my brain around the system and becoming a part of the dev community! |
| 17:46 | caroline | welcome emlam! |
| 17:47 | I'm sure you'll find great mentors here | |
| 17:49 | lukeg | Welcome, emlam!!! |
| 17:49 | oleonard | Hi emlam |
| 17:52 | caroline | Here is the list of irc handles of people who are regularly around, if you ever need to ping someone in particular https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
| 17:54 | emlam | Thank you! :) |
| 18:43 | tuxayo | lukeg++ |
| 18:44 | emlam: welcome, don't hesitate to ask your questions here or the koha-devel list | |
| 18:53 | emlam | Thanks!! |
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| 19:15 | tuxayo | emlam: If you want to test patches or setup a local development Koha, feel free to also mention me in the chat ^^ |
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| 19:30 | emlam | tuxayo: Thanks! Reading some of the basic guides etc first, but I will keep that in mind |
| 19:35 | \quit | |
| 20:12 | lukeg | oleonard: you about? |
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| 21:18 | lukeg1 | davidnind[m]: Will you file a bug for the auto-complete issue you discovered on patron lists? |
| 21:20 | davidnind[m] | will do! |
| 21:24 | lukeg1 | davidnind[m]++ |
| 21:35 | davidnind[m] | bug 31782 |
| 21:35 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31782 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron lists - patron autocomplete search does not work |
| 22:26 | oleonard | lukeg1: Not really! |
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