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05:11 | tuxayo | mtj «we could add some ES info, like ES/OS version, and if ES is running/active or not» |
05:11 | There is actually! (but I don't get why I didn't see it last time) | |
05:12 | In about.pl I have | |
05:12 | Elasticsearch: Version: 1.3.0 | Nodes: | Status: running | Indices: koha_kohadev_biblios (count: 436), koha_kohadev_authorities (count: 1706) | |
05:12 | The version number allows to deduce it's OpenSearch. Ugly but it's there | |
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06:12 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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06:26 | dcook | allo |
06:26 | Noticed that bug 15187 caused a regression... | |
06:26 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15187 normal, P1 - high, ---, dcook, Pushed to stable , Adding 880 Fields to index-list in order to Increase Search for ALL non-latin Scripts |
06:26 | dcook | But I have a fix on the way hehe |
06:26 | Or rather an alternative approach... | |
06:29 | Always nice to clean up one's own messes... | |
06:29 | marcelr | dcook you're doing good |
06:29 | * dcook | waits for the second half of the punchline :p |
06:30 | drbone | Good Morning! Still facing this "AH01215: no mapping found for [0xDF] at position 25 in Jakobs Zauberhut. Das gro\xdfe Geheimnis g0=ASCII_DEFAULT g1=EXTENDED_LATIN at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/Charset.pm line 308.: /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl, referer" error. Any hint on how to fix it would be awesome |
06:32 | dcook | drbone: That "g0=ASCII_DEFAULT g1=EXTENDED_LATIN" part is interesting |
06:32 | What's the character that should be appearing there? | |
06:32 | Probably a data encoding issue | |
06:32 | drbone | ß |
06:32 | yeah I assume so too | |
06:32 | it looks like to have issues at least with ß and ü | |
06:32 | those are german letters | |
06:33 | or at least used in the german language | |
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06:33 | reiveune | hello |
06:33 | drbone | hello |
06:33 | wahanui | hey, drbone |
06:33 | dcook | drbone: Looks like ß is a "df" byte in Windows-1252 encoding |
06:34 | Koha is expecting your data to be UTF-8 encoded | |
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06:35 | dcook | ß should be bytes c39f in UTF-8 encoding |
06:35 | cait might be able to help a bit as our local german expert | |
06:35 | But ultimately that's the problem | |
06:35 | cait | not sure if loca is correct :) |
06:35 | local | |
06:35 | dcook | hehe |
06:36 | * cait | might need tea first |
06:36 | cait | wha's the problem/question? |
06:36 | drbone | books containing ß or ü just are not saved |
06:36 | cait | ah |
06:36 | LDR is missing | |
06:36 | drbone | and lead to the error posted above AH01215.... |
06:36 | cait | is my first guess |
06:36 | dcook | It looks to me like the records are in Windows-1252 encoding and not UTF9 |
06:36 | UTF8* | |
06:36 | cait | did you change the frameworks in any way? |
06:37 | drbone | hmmm tried to simplify it as we only need a tiny fraction. (its a small ground school (volksschule) library |
06:37 | can very well be I messed that up | |
06:37 | cait | I have seen records with diacritics and umlauts not saving corrrectly and losing data every time the LDR was not set correctly |
06:37 | drbone | sorry for the trouble |
06:37 | cait | bring back 000 or LDR |
06:37 | with the default settings first | |
06:38 | it contains the encoding setting | |
06:38 | if it#s missing, strange things will happen | |
06:38 | and never delete fields from frameworks, only hide them if possible | |
06:38 | dcook | ^ |
06:38 | drbone | ok, thank you I'll try to bring it back. |
06:38 | well I ... thought I did that | |
06:38 | dcook | cait: In other news that might interest you, I realized bug 15187 seems to create more problems than it solves |
06:38 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15187 normal, P1 - high, ---, dcook, Pushed to stable , Adding 880 Fields to index-list in order to Increase Search for ALL non-latin Scripts |
06:39 | drbone | thanks I'll take a look and see what I can do |
06:39 | dcook | But I have an alternative solution coming to bug 31532 soon |
06:39 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31532 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, NEW , Zebra search results incorrect because of Bug 15187 |
06:39 | drbone | thanks for you help guys |
06:39 | your* | |
06:40 | dcook | drbone: No worries. I think the problem is probably with the bib data in your database but tough to know without more information |
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06:42 | dcook | Hmm I thought that we had gotten rid of NORMARC.. |
06:43 | cait1 | it's posible you need to keep that one visible on a 'don't touch and ignore it' basis |
06:43 | sorry, I got disconnected (VPN) | |
06:43 | what did Imiss? | |
06:43 | dcook | Not sure when you disconnected heh |
06:44 | cait1 | I'll check the logs |
06:44 | ok, yes, NORMARC is dead | |
06:45 | and waht issues witht he 880 patch? | |
06:47 | dcook | Basically, the 880 patch rewrites 880 as the linked field, and while that works great for indexing... it's not great for search results which use that same MARCXML |
06:47 | it means the 880 handling in the display XSLTs don't work | |
06:48 | I didn't notice it for a long time, because the 880 data still appears... but in the wrong context. For instance a "880 $6 245" will appears as a second "245", which looks only slightly wrong | |
06:49 | cait1 | ah I see - you are changing the fields |
06:49 | dcook | I have an alternative solution though which is pure-Zebra configuration which allows the 880 to be indexed as the linked field without touching the MARCXML returned to Koha via the Zebra search results |
06:49 | cait1 | I didn't look at the solution or tested it :( maybe shoudl have as I know about the XSLT |
06:49 | that sounds good | |
06:49 | dcook | I wrote and tested it, but I think I didn't know enough about the 880 |
06:49 | It looked right, but noticed today that it's not quite right | |
06:50 | But yeah the new solution is good. I just rolled it out locally in prod a few minutes ago | |
06:50 | drbone | just to make sure I'm checking at the right place. I have 2 MARC Framworks. the default one and the "FA" (for "fast add" i guess). Both contain the 000 "tagfield" |
06:51 | but I just got an idea, I'll try to add a book using the default framework and see if it works then | |
06:53 | dcook | drbone: I suspect if you enter a record from scratch it'll probably work (unless your database schema is wrong too) |
06:54 | drbone | uh that would be bad.. |
07:01 | dcook | Yup |
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07:04 | drbone | oh gosh I'm getting old. I set up this instance before the summer and I how to do it ... if I try to enter a record using the default framework the field for author is not editable... am I stupid? |
07:04 | *forgot | |
07:05 | alex_ | Bonjour |
07:07 | dcook | drbone: That's because of the authority system preferences |
07:07 | I've been working on Koha for over 10.5 years and it still surprises me sometimes too ;) | |
07:07 | But on that note, I really must be going. | |
07:07 | Good morning, Europeans, and good night from this Aussie | |
07:07 | drbone | good night! have a good sleep and thanks for your help |
07:12 | marcelr | bye dcook |
07:30 | drbone | i just found out that it sometimes works. So I can find titles with |
07:31 | ü and ß in the database | |
07:36 | there is this button "Normsätze automatisch verknüpfen" (german for something like "connect/link normdata/normentries automatically") when adding a new book to the lib. Is it possible that if thats pressed before entering a title containing special characters it leads to the observed error? | |
08:23 | ashimema | morning' |
08:24 | dang.. sorry I missed issues with bug 15187 dcook | |
08:24 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15187 normal, P1 - high, ---, dcook, Pushed to stable , Adding 880 Fields to index-list in order to Increase Search for ALL non-latin Scripts |
08:24 | ashimema | it looked so elegant and reasonable |
08:26 | marcelr | those are the nicest, ashimema :) |
08:26 | and hi | |
08:27 | ashimema | morning marcelr |
08:27 | marcelr | did you have a chance to glance at those api logging stuff? |
08:27 | ashimema | afraid not.. it's been a crazy week.. |
08:27 | marcelr | ok |
08:28 | ashimema | annual review season at ptfs-e and universities all going back at the moment so the support desk is busier than usual too |
08:28 | marcelr | right |
08:28 | our queues are patient | |
08:29 | if only the users.. :) | |
08:29 | * ashimema | doesn't like not even being on the leaderboards yet for this month ;P |
08:29 | marcelr | you can adjust the template for that |
08:30 | ashimema | ? |
08:30 | marcelr | lol |
08:30 | ashimema | hehe |
08:30 | marcelr | default entry for ashimema |
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08:33 | marcelr | wb cait |
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08:36 | cait1 | thx marcelr |
09:40 | ashimema | anyone know what the db passwords are for sandboxes? |
09:41 | jajm around? | |
09:43 | cait1 | I think they are listed somewhere |
09:43 | ashimema | the normal logins are.. but I can't for the life of me work out the db ones |
09:43 | cait1 | I always forget too |
09:44 | I remember asking the same int he past and being told it was written somewhere (just forgot where) | |
09:44 | i think it's koha_nameofsandbox password? | |
09:45 | ashimema | mm |
09:45 | I think 'password' is set at the sandbox server level though.. I have no idea what it is on biblbire | |
09:45 | cait1 | https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes shoudl be updated |
09:46 | ashimema | ptfs-e one's are actually finally back up and running |
09:46 | I spend like two days digging this week | |
09:47 | any biblibre here, paul_p, jajm, | |
09:47 | liliputech | |
09:47 | wahanui | liliputech is not around - so I think we'll postpone that one again |
09:51 | marcelr | bbl |
09:52 | jajm | ashimema, hi, the default password for sandboxes is koha (it's written on the sandbox creation page) |
09:53 | cait1 | you can#t get ther after making one, maybe we need to find a better spot |
09:53 | jajm | oh, the db one ? why do you need it ? |
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09:56 | cait1 | jajm: running web installer i guess |
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10:05 | jajm | ashimema: db password is also written on the sandbox creation page, and the db username is as cait1 said: koha_<sandbox name> |
10:13 | cait1 | jajm: but can you get this information after creating the sandbox? |
10:13 | or maybe I am missing something | |
10:14 | jajm | cait1: it looks like the password is the same for all created sandboxes, at least it worked for my sandbox |
10:15 | cait1 | ok thx :) |
10:19 | oleonard | o/ |
10:19 | cait1 | hi oleonard :) |
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10:23 | ashimema | hi |
10:23 | sorry.. was in a meeting | |
10:24 | tl:dr was I'm trying to get https://staff-bug30952.sandboxes.biblibre.eu/ back up and running | |
10:24 | I think it's been rebased behind the scenes and needs updatedatabase running | |
10:27 | jajm | ashimema: i tried running the webinstaller but it looks like the database is just... gone ? I got the "first-time" web installer, not the updatedatabase one |
10:28 | ashimema | oh.. |
10:28 | that's weird | |
10:28 | I just assumed it was a rebase somewhere. | |
10:28 | so looks like we may need to set it back up again | |
10:28 | I can do that if you like.. ptfs-e intend to give it a good thrashing tomorrow 😜 | |
10:29 | try to help it get over the finish line for the cycle | |
10:30 | jajm | i will ask for a more permanent instance, sandboxes are not stable enough (not the first time it breaks) |
10:30 | ashimema | yeah.. sandboxes are a pain for me here too.. been really struggling to get the ptfs-e's stable for a while now |
10:31 | the idea is great.. but for some reason they're just not entirely reliable | |
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11:19 | drbone | cait? Could you help me with configuring the DNB correctly as sru server? Tried to configure it, search for somthing but I don't get any results and there are also no visible errors within any log files... |
11:20 | cait1 | not sure, but I could try |
11:20 | let me see if i still have notes about it somewhere - we don't use it - ours is K10plus :) | |
11:21 | did bringing back 000/LDR solve your issue yesterday? | |
11:21 | drbone | i have 000 in the marc framework |
11:21 | cait1 | is it visible? |
11:21 | drbone | and I can find some entries with ü |
11:22 | sec | |
11:22 | no not visible | |
11:22 | cait1 | try to make it visible - it will auto-fill |
11:22 | maybe this doesn't work when it's hidden | |
11:22 | catalogers can ignore it | |
11:23 | drbone | ok, will try that! thanks |
11:23 | strange thing is: sometimes it works, sometimes it does not | |
11:23 | so some titles it accepts (including titles with ü) | |
11:23 | and some titles it does not. I suspect it depends on when the entering user pushes the "normsätze automatisch verknüpfen" button but thats only a wild guess | |
11:26 | cait1 | hm that shoudl not be it... but stranger things have happened |
11:27 | maybe check if the records it works for have the LDR/000 in the MARC view or not | |
11:29 | meeting bbl | |
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11:31 | marcelr | o/ |
12:05 | tuxayo | Hi #koha :) |
12:28 | marcelr | hi tuxayo |
12:29 | tuxayo | hi marcelr ^^ |
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13:13 | ashimema | hmmm |
13:13 | we seem to reference 'frameworkcode' in cat-toolbar.inc.. but I can't see where it's ever set.. anyone got any clues? | |
13:23 | marcelr | Auth ? |
13:23 | wahanui | Auth is done with gitea |
13:24 | caroline_catlady | what does 'mandatory' mean in mappings.yaml? |
13:27 | (for example, issues is mandatory it seems, but I'm not sure what that entails) | |
13:28 | that flag was added as part of bug 18984 | |
13:28 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=18984 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Remove support for NORMARC |
13:30 | caroline_catlady | ok nvm, I found it :) |
13:31 | it was part of bug 19482, the other one just changed the location of the line | |
13:31 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=19482 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Elasticsearch - prevent removal / editing of required indexes |
13:34 | ashimema | nope.. not in Auth.. |
13:34 | I'm baffled.. | |
13:34 | it's clearly getting passed to catalogue/detail somehow | |
13:34 | but I'm damned if I can see where | |
13:39 | can one add a new facet tag to ES from the UI? | |
13:40 | caroline_catlady | the frameworkcode is the in the db, in biblio, could that be where it comes from? |
13:41 | ashimema | as in.. how is it sent as a variable to the template |
13:42 | I don't see where it's passed.. I was hopeing to find somewhere nice and central to pass something else I need for the cat-toolbar.inc | |
13:42 | marcelr | ashimema: cataloguing/addbiblio.pl: frameworkcode => $frameworkcode, |
13:43 | at the very end | |
13:43 | ashimema | indeed.. but how does it get passed to catalogue/detail.tt 😜 |
13:43 | or am I missing something fundamental there? | |
13:44 | In short.. I have no idea how I'm seeing 'Edit record' when I only have 'fast_cataloging' as me permission on the cat detail page | |
13:45 | marcelr | is it detail or moredetail etc ? |
13:45 | ISBD? | |
13:45 | ashimema | detail |
13:45 | marcelr | i am seeing it for those other tabs |
13:46 | not on catalogue/detail | |
13:46 | at least my regex | |
13:46 | ashimema | indeed |
13:46 | so it must be getting sent somewhere higher up the chain.. | |
13:46 | which has totally baffled me | |
13:46 | marcelr | i know you will find it :) |
13:46 | ashimema | hehe |
13:47 | marcelr | take a break of 10 mins first |
13:47 | ashimema | it's a game now.. haha |
13:47 | 🍵 | |
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14:42 | cait1 | there could just be a bug? |
14:42 | about the permissions on that button | |
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14:46 | milktoast | helloall, I've built a KOHA server using the KOHA Live DVD... once it is running, I can't log into the web page. I've used the name/passwd in koha-conf.xml.... what am I missing? what account can I log into KOHA the first time? |
14:47 | cait1 | the Koha Live DVD is not recommended for production setups |
14:47 | we don't know how they work, so we usually can't help much with questions | |
14:47 | milktoast | right... testing it |
14:47 | cait1 | have you considered setting up using the packages instead? |
14:48 | milktoast | and showing my upper end workers |
14:48 | cait1 | Official instructions are linked from the release notes: https://koha-community.org/koh[…]2-05-04-released/ |
14:48 | milktoast | yes... that got the the main page and after trying to log in.. the page errored and never worked |
14:48 | tried that 5 times | |
14:49 | that is why i found the live dvd | |
14:49 | cait1 | yeah, but better to stick with the official way always |
14:49 | tuxayo | milktoast: does it says the login/password is wrong? |
14:49 | cait1 | are you logging into web installer or staff interface? |
14:49 | different logins for those | |
14:49 | tuxayo | If you just need to see how Koha works there are the demos https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]emo_Installations |
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14:51 | milktoast | it says invalid username or password |
14:52 | tuxayo | milktoast: is that the web installer or staff interface? As cait says. |
14:53 | milktoast | sorry , my chat dropped |
14:54 | the web to the local IP address | |
14:54 | tuxayo | How does the login patch look? |
14:54 | *login page | |
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14:57 | milktoast | web page is opas-user.pl |
14:58 | opac-user.pl | |
14:58 | oleonard | milktoast: That is the public interface. You want the staff interface |
14:59 | milktoast | ok... where is the staff interface page |
15:00 | I missed that | |
15:00 | cait1 | we don't know |
15:00 | milktoast | :-) |
15:00 | cait1 | it's eitehr a different port or a different URL |
15:01 | but I don't know how the DVD might have set it up | |
15:01 | you could try adding :8080 to the URL you have for a start | |
15:01 | milktoast | ok, I'll llook for that URL |
15:03 | port 8080 didn't work | |
15:03 | tuxayo | The place where you found the live DVD should have the staff URL in instructions. Otherwise it's not possible to do anything with it |
15:03 | milktoast | ok, I'll look up their docs... |
15:10 | tuxayo | milktoast: Does the live DVD fullfils a need that the Koha demos? Or is it because you found the DVD first? |
15:10 | *that the Koha demos don't? | |
15:20 | milktoast | I gues it is just a demo because I couldn't get an installed one to work either... I installed it following the instructions and when I get to the web page the page failed and it stopped working |
15:21 | I must be mis-typing on the terminal | |
15:22 | I used the Koha 21 complete implementation page and video to build them | |
15:23 | cait1 | which video? |
15:23 | there is no koha 21 actually | |
15:24 | there is a koha 21.05 and a koha 21.11 and neither are the latest vesion | |
15:24 | milktoast | https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]DuHGQ20Eo&t=1313s |
15:26 | tuxayo | > I gues it is just a demo |
15:26 | The demo installations are right for this job: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]emo_Installations | |
15:27 | > I couldn't get an installed one to work either | |
15:27 | With we can help much more ^^ Here or the general mailing list | |
15:28 | milktoast The video might, but be sure to read at the same time this: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ubuntu_-_packages | |
15:29 | Oups, the current instructions are https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian | |
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15:29 | tuxayo | Oups, the current instructions are https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian |
15:29 | It's regularly updated | |
15:31 | milktoast | it is like that video... I followed both and failed. I tried ubuntu and debian |
15:31 | tuxayo | paulderscheid++ thanks your recent updates to the Debian install wikipage ^^ |
15:32 | milktoast | just looking for a demo to sell to the upper end and to learn it if they accept it and I am the admin on it |
15:32 | tuxayo | milktoast: Good that you tried both way. We can help if at some point you retry. |
15:33 | Do you remember what went wrong? | |
15:34 | milktoast | I got it running and went to the login page.. tried to log in using koha_library koha123 and then the page gave an apahe error |
15:34 | built new servers about 3 or 4 times | |
15:35 | tried server and desktop OS | |
15:36 | all using virtualbox | |
15:40 | cait1 | hm been a while since i treid on virtualbox |
15:40 | did you check your OS versions are listed for the Koha version you tried? | |
15:40 | tuxayo | milktoast: if you retry and get the precise apache error, it's likely to ring a bell to someone |
15:41 | tcohen | hola #koha! |
15:41 | tuxayo | Ah yes, maybe the Ubuntu is too old and the Apache version too and it doesn't work |
15:41 | hola :) | |
15:41 | milktoast | I tried mysql and meriadb |
15:42 | I used ubuntu 20.04 | |
15:42 | it has to be a user error... just can't find it | |
15:43 | tuxayo | > ubuntu 20.04 |
15:43 | It's fine | |
15:43 | milktoast | I'll build one more |
15:44 | tuxayo | Getting the exact error message (maybe from the apache logs if the page doesn't say anything) might give away the issue |
15:48 | milktoast | starting the ubuntu 20 server build |
15:48 | tcohen | jajm: can u run the DB upgrade on the staff interface sandbox please? |
15:51 | cait1 | milktoast: fingers crossed |
15:51 | milktoast | :-) |
15:52 | server is in the building mode | |
15:56 | tcohen | hola cait1 |
15:56 | hola ashimema | |
15:57 | ashimema | hi |
15:58 | cait1 | hola tcohen :) |
15:58 | how's your trip? | |
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16:05 | milktoast | server built... rebooting |
16:06 | reiveune | bye |
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16:10 | milktoast | logged in and sudo su - now root user |
16:11 | ashimema | time to clock out.. |
16:12 | have a good one #koha | |
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16:25 | milktoast | apt update ... apt upgrade |
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17:09 | tuxayo | Results of today's patch testing session with french librarians:... (full message at https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]LLRIrWfLqHFuNrVd) |
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19:48 | milktoast | started apt install koha-common |
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22:31 | milktoast | ok, I'm home now and builing a ubuntu server from stock... then I'll get the KOHA installed. |
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