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| 03:33 | tuxayo | Emails sent to the general and devel mailing lists for a patch testing session the 26th |
| 03:42 | Hopefully we can get enough people[1] to regularly test patches and get the need signoff queue down! 🤞 | |
| 03:42 | [1] and librarians, that would be new blood in the community so the best to get more development throughput | |
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| 06:18 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 06:34 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:34 | wahanui | salut, reiveune |
| 06:47 | fridolin | Bug 31542 a cosmetic "faux pas" |
| 06:47 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31542 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Home page links wrong font-family |
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| 08:56 | ashimema | tuxayo++ |
| 08:57 | *Â cait1 | waves |
| 09:35 | cait1 | Does someone know which bug fixed  Can't call method "GetPlugins" on an undefined value at > > /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/BackgroundJob.pm line 402. ? Tomas said on th emailing list he'd file it but didn't find it |
| 09:35 | and it's still an issue in 22.05.04 | |
| 09:36 | marcelr | could that be 31223 |
| 09:36 | bug 31223 | |
| 09:36 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31223 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , Batch edit items explodes if plugins disabled |
| 09:37 | cait1 | ah ok, this one appeared outside of batch editing |
| 09:37 | marcelr | Not backported yet |
| 09:38 | yes it should be the one | |
| 09:38 | cait1 | thx marcelr - didn't connect the dots here |
| 09:38 | pushed a month ago | |
| 09:38 | marcelr | summer time :) |
| 09:54 | paulderscheid[m] | cait1: around? |
| 09:58 | cait1 | yep |
| 09:58 | paulderscheid[m]: | |
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| 10:31 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 10:32 | ashimema | Morning oleonard |
| 10:32 | prepare to be pounced upon by cait1 😛 | |
| 10:33 | cait1 | oh hey |
| 10:33 | wahanui | hi, cait1 |
| 10:35 | cait1 | and morning oleonard :) |
| 10:44 | oleonard | Anyone else feel hung over from trying to keep up with all the Queen memes yesterday? It was hard work. |
| 10:44 | ashimema | lol |
| 10:46 | cait1 | wel, soon there will be King memes I guess |
| 11:14 | oleonard | So the latest version of bug 30952 has a modified version of my search header design... |
| 11:14 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30952 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , New design for staff interface |
| 11:14 | oleonard | This process is so confusing. |
| 11:15 | cait1 | agreed |
| 11:23 | ashimema | 39052n is the biblibre sandbox.. I added 39052o tracking your branch Owen |
| 11:24 | I added 'n' because I didn't think I could delete their original sandbox.. but it turns out I could | |
| 11:24 | their original was plain broken | |
| 11:27 | cait1 | I found an issue only in Owen's branch.... and now I don't knwo what to do lol |
| 11:29 | ashimema | tell him 😛 |
| 11:29 | oleonard | I don't see my branch going anywhere |
| 11:31 | ashimema | I think whatever we do with the search bar stuff is going to be somewhat contentious |
| 11:32 | I find the tiny icons really hard to remember and click.. but I'm sure the muscle memory will grow | |
| 11:34 | cait1 | no i think you are right |
| 11:34 | it's much less intiuitive and the click area is too small | |
| 11:34 | I like Owen's better, it has text | |
| 11:35 | oleonard's I mean | |
| 11:35 | and it gives us more room to add custom nav links | |
| 11:35 | ashimema | I do and I don't ;P.. I think Owens is certainly clearer and better for accessibility.. but the look of the deeper header and inline search there has grown on me. |
| 11:35 | cait1 | look < functionality/usability |
| 11:35 | ashimema | but I also an english only testing.. so the space constraints aren't so apparent to me. |
| 11:36 | how do you get the language menu at the top instead of the bottom cait? | |
| 11:37 | cait1 | i didn't know that existed until now - but it's a preference in the staffinterface tab |
| 11:37 | ashimema | aha.. found it. |
| 11:38 | hehe | |
| 11:38 | *Â ashimema | is basically turning things on to see what they do |
| 11:40 | oleonard | Are y'all looking at a sandbox? |
| 11:41 | cait1 | yes |
| 11:41 | or multiple, to make it more confusing | |
| 11:43 | ashimema | multiple |
| 11:43 | https://staff-bug30952n.sandboxes.biblibre.eu/ | |
| 11:43 | biblibre only submission | |
| 11:43 | https://staff-bug30952o.sandboxes.biblibre.eu/ | |
| 11:44 | oleonard | The Biblibre one is out of date: https://snipboard.io/EncSfi.jpg |
| 11:44 | ashimema | with your search bar stuff. |
| 11:44 | how | |
| 11:44 | where is that one from? | |
| 11:44 | I only created the biblibre one this morning | |
| 11:45 | oleonard | Latest commit was around 2 hours ago |
| 11:47 | ashimema | OK.. spinning up yet another sandbox |
| 11:47 | oleonard | Hence my comment about the new search header being incorporated |
| 11:47 | ashimema | I totally missed that comment |
| 11:47 | cait1 | jajm: around? |
| 11:47 | ashimema | 'tis moving fast now |
| 11:47 | cait1 | 'tis is a good sign |
| 11:47 | let us know which one please, I am slightly confused :) | |
| 11:48 | jajm | cait1: i'm here, but in a meeting right now |
| 11:50 | ashimema | cait1: bug30952r is spinning up and grabs the very latest code from their github |
| 11:50 | cait1 | ah ok |
| 11:50 | jajm: just so you know: there is things I DO like - but I can't file the likes | |
| 11:55 | ashimema | just building the css on that one now cait1, then it's ready to play with |
| 11:55 | cait1 | yep, waiting it out |
| 11:55 | ashimema | well.. I can show my colleagues the progress in my meeting in the few mins.. lol |
| 11:56 | all ready | |
| 11:57 | cait1 | link? |
| 11:57 | wahanui | link is strange, add / at the end |
| 11:57 | ashimema | https://staff-bug30952r.sandbo[…]/koha/mainpage.pl |
| 11:58 | cait1 | forget link |
| 11:58 | wahanui | cait1: I forgot link |
| 11:58 | cait1 | much improved for the search |
| 11:58 | ashimema | indeed |
| 12:00 | cait1 | I still have the jumpy numbers :( |
| 12:01 | ashimema | oh dear |
| 12:01 | cait1 | oleonard: you are also using windows, right? do you see them too? https://github.com/jajm/koha-s[…]edesign/issues/20 |
| 12:01 | wahanui | okay, cait1. |
| 12:03 | oleonard | cait1: I'm currently on a Mac, and I don't see them. I'll be able to look on a PC later today. |
| 12:07 | cait1 | ok, thanks |
| 12:07 | it's consistent for me with chrome and firefox... | |
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| 12:58 | cait1 | oh, i thought i missed all the action now... but nothing happened here? |
| 12:59 | oleonard | Action? |
| 12:59 | wahanui | Action is to make lots of actions |
| 12:59 | cait1 | the testing action :) |
| 12:59 | jumpy numbers in all our team btw - I asked the coworkers to have a look | |
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| 13:10 | ashimema | My colleagues aren't all that keen on Poppins either cait1.. they're suggesting 'Open Sans' or 'Fira Sans' as alternatives |
| 13:10 | brb | |
| 13:11 | cait1 | maybe comment on the fonts bug? |
| 13:11 | paulderscheid[m] | font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"; |
| 13:11 | I would argue that the best font for work is the native system font | |
| 13:11 | cait1 | as this is such a central thing I am keen that we make a good standard choice |
| 13:11 | paulderscheid[m] | This is also a plus for responsiveness |
| 13:12 | cait1 | i think comment on the github woudl be good |
| 13:12 | so far it was only me raising issues | |
| 13:12 | https://github.com/jajm/koha-s[…]edesign/issues/20 | |
| 13:12 | we just had the other non-Koha cowrokers take a look - filing their feedback as we "write" | |
| 13:23 | oleonard | Fira Sans: https://snipboard.io/gFfCan.jpg |
| 13:23 | Open Sans: https://snipboard.io/F6IxL8.jpg | |
| 13:24 | ashimema | we've just been going over stuff.. finished my meeting now and they've all gone off to play |
| 13:24 | we will be commenting soon | |
| 13:25 | One of them just suggested perhaps it's actually just the font weighting that's too high.. i don't know how specific we've been about picking this stuff before now or not | |
| 13:26 | but I imagine weight can be rather different between fonts | |
| 13:27 | table headers are 700 weight at the minute.. maybe just reducing them to 500 would help? | |
| 13:27 | for example | |
| 13:27 | oleonard | Papyrus: https://snipboard.io/SVFi6k.jpg :D |
| 13:28 | ashimema | love |
| 13:29 | cait1 | papyrus might be for the people dealing with rare books :) |
| 13:30 | i thnk Fira is a little rounder somehow? | |
| 13:30 | would be my favourite for now | |
| 13:31 | help.... what is the thing in front of a list item called again? | |
| 13:32 | drbone | dash? |
| 13:32 | cait1 | not the one I was looking for, but valid |
| 13:33 | list style button? | |
| 13:33 | list style type | |
| 13:34 | bullet point? | |
| 13:35 | oleonard | MDN calls it a "marker," probably because "bullet" has bad associations |
| 13:35 | cait1 | oh |
| 13:36 | too late now | |
| 13:36 | https://github.com/jajm/koha-s[…]edesign/issues/29 | |
| 13:36 | oleonard | No big deal. |
| 13:54 | cait1 | add item form is pretty broken |
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| 14:00 | Shane-S | Hi all, what DB field in items = the visual field of Inventory Number when looking at an item in OPAC? |
| 14:01 | https://schema.koha-community.[…]tables/items.html not seeing anything with Inventory Number | |
| 14:02 | caroline_catlady | Shane-S, i think you're looking for stocknumber |
| 14:02 | Shane-S | ty ill try that |
| 14:02 | cait1 | Shane-S: inventory number is not visible in the OPAC |
| 14:02 | do you mean barcode? | |
| 14:03 | Shane-S | Yeppers...I did copynumber thanks |
| 14:03 | cait1 | copynumber is a part of the callnumber |
| 14:03 | Shane-S | no stocknumber was the Inventory Number on the items view page |
| 14:03 | cait1 | well - like an addition to it, as I understand it |
| 14:03 | hm ok | |
| 14:03 | caroline_catlady | I think it depends on your cataloging, here copy number is separate form clalnumber |
| 14:03 | cait1 | ah ok |
| 14:04 | caroline_catlady++ :) | |
| 14:05 | caroline_catlady | with that said, I think none of my libraries use copynumber... I just transfer it for them from their old system that adds it automatically, but it doesn't change anything in Koha |
| 14:05 | ashimema | /me goes for a quick walk |
| 14:05 | bbiab | |
| 14:05 | caroline_catlady | They do use enumchron a lot, on spine labels too |
| 14:06 | cait1 | similar here - I think only one library that might use copynumber |
| 14:06 | I think I was told in the past that you printed it on the labels to differentiate multiple copies with same callnumber | |
| 14:07 | caroline_catlady | stocknumber we use for automatic import of ebooks from the ebook lending platform |
| 14:08 | maybe copynumber makes sense in some types of libraries, but in public libraries here, if you have one copy or 15 copies, it doesn't really matter which one is #1, #2, etc | |
| 14:08 | I guess it's the same with yours | |
| 14:19 | cait1 | stocknumber is different here :) |
| 14:19 | we actually have inventory numbers | |
| 14:19 | usually a combination of year and a sequential number | |
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| 15:31 | reiveune | bye |
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| 18:16 | milktoast | now KOHA is running and the web test is wanting Elasticsearch |
| 18:17 | I tried to apt install  it and gettin | |
| 18:17 | Preparing to unpack .../elasticsearch_6.8.23_all.deb ... could not find java; set JAVA_HOME dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/el​asticsearch_6.8.23_all.deb (--unpack):  new elasticsearch package pre-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/el​asticsearch_6.8.23_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | |
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| 19:37 | tuxayo | @later tell milktoast great so it seems your install went further. «the web test is wanting Elasticsearch» what do you mean? If you don't need specifically ES, don't bother with it. About Java, it's widely documented how to install on Ubuntu so hopefully it shouldn't block you long. |
| 19:37 | huginn` | tuxayo: The operation succeeded. |
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| 23:03 | tuxayo | fridolin: 🟡 |
| 23:21 | fridolin | yeyyyyy |
| 23:21 | sun is shinning | |
| 23:21 | :D |
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