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| 06:30 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 06:38 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:38 | wahanui | salut, reiveune |
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| 06:48 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 07:33 | magnuse | got an opinion about BIBFRAME? please add it to bug 14239 :-) |
| 07:33 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=14239 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Bibframe support in Koha |
| 07:40 | ashimema | morning |
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| 07:45 | ashimema | is bibframe a thing now magnuse? |
| 07:45 | I've still not really seen any evidence of anything supporting it.. other than the odd little vanity project to demo it being a fun idea | |
| 07:50 | magnuse | i am not up to scratch on it |
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| 08:09 | ashimema | me neither really |
| 08:10 | jajm around? | |
| 08:13 | jajm | ashimema, i'm here but not really available atm |
| 08:13 | ashimema | okies, will chat later then |
| 08:14 | * ashimema | is trying to get to grips with all the linked record options we now have. |
| 08:52 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 27830: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org[…]09a56c0f7278c7976> |
| 08:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 20854: DBRev 20.12.00.034 <https://git.koha-community.org[…]62c7b81e6ea5bd5d4> | |
| 08:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 26940: DBRev 20.12.00.033 <https://git.koha-community.org[…]4e85a2fd37bf7f53e> | |
| 08:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 20854: (QA follow-up) Rephrase of the new casServerVersion pref description <https://git.koha-community.org[…]400199a2f3152abf1> | |
| 08:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 28162: fix doubled scalar sigil <https://git.koha-community.org[…]29b53111303b60f11> | |
| 08:53 | News from kohagit: Bug 27830: (follow-up) Merge DE and FR address formats <https://git.koha-community.org[…]41912eda657cde705> | |
| 08:53 | News from kohagit: Bug 28028: Remove misc/migration_tools/fix_onloan.pl <https://git.koha-community.org[…]26665ccd53355b820> | |
| 08:53 | News from kohagit: Bug 28096: Fix table settings for API datatables wrapper <https://git.koha-community.org[…]a4dc2046c202ee671> | |
| 08:53 | News from kohagit: Bug 20854: (QA follow-up) Improve readability <https://git.koha-community.org[…]1e3a9a6b7db0c4815> | |
| 08:53 | News from kohagit: Bug 20854: Add more CAS tests <https://git.koha-community.org[…]ea3132447eeb28b45> | |
| 08:53 | News from kohagit: Bug 26533: Fix 'is exactly' search for authorities <https://git.koha-community.org[…]2ae65de4f36d33316> | |
| 08:53 | News from kohagit: Bug 27861: Warning in C4/XSLT.pm - use of uninitialized value in numeric eq (==) <https://git.koha-community.org[…]d140a7bbb45c8546c> | |
| 08:53 | News from kohagit: Bug 27830: OPAC library list does not use AddressFormat <https://git.koha-community.org[…]df2109c275be8da06> | |
| 08:53 | News from kohagit: Bug 27282: fix all occurrences <https://git.koha-community.org[…]d1f89fd79f62af400> | |
| 08:53 | News from kohagit: Bug 27282: Add window.onafterprint function <https://git.koha-community.org[…]2c95f3a9ee6f659ab> | |
| 08:53 | News from kohagit: Bug 27232: Add missing space between : and </label> in member-alt-contact-style.inc <https://git.koha-community.org[…]bfefd547749eaae1d> | |
| 08:53 | News from kohagit: Bug 26940: Take empty strings into account <https://git.koha-community.org[…]27ad545e3dce82422> | |
| 08:53 | News from kohagit: Bug 26940: Put in sync borrowers.debarredcomment with comments from borrower_debarment <https://git.koha-community.org[…]d6e381c2d5858dc68> | |
| 08:53 | News from kohagit: Bug 26940: don't reset debarredcomment on patron update <https://git.koha-community.org[…]d09d048b2ee38689e> | |
| 08:53 | News from kohagit: Bug 20854: Allow correct redirect on logout for Cas servers 3.0 and superior. <https://git.koha-community.org[…]5658a286019204e54> | |
| 09:26 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #567: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/567/ |
| 09:39 | magnuse | ashimema: linked record options? |
| 09:51 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 09:51 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 09:51 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U2010 build #155: FIXED in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Master_U2010/155/ |
| 09:54 | Project Koha_Master build #1619: SUCCESS in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_Master/1619/ | |
| 10:01 | cait | ashimema: maybe i can help? |
| 10:04 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #549: SUCCESS in 1 hr 12 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/549/ |
| 10:13 | Project Koha_Master_D11 build #266: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D11/266/ | |
| 10:30 | oleonard | Hi all |
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| 10:44 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D11 build #267: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D11/267/ |
| 10:47 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 10:47 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 10:47 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1623: FIXED in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1623/ |
| 11:23 | oleonard | ashimema still around? |
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| 11:43 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #294: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ter_D10_CPAN/294/ |
| 12:31 | ashimema | Hi oleonard |
| 12:31 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 12:32 | oleonard | Hi ashimema I was looking at Bug 28187, but before I get to that I have a question about cash registers... |
| 12:32 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28187 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , rowGroup headings are getting their styles overriden |
| 12:32 | ashimema | Fire away |
| 12:33 | oleonard | If I change my cash register from the one I'm logged in with by default, shouldn't the "Register details" link take me to details for that cash register? |
| 12:33 | Right now it shows me the default | |
| 12:35 | ashimema | Hmm.. fair question |
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| 12:36 | oleonard | It also raises the question: Should I be able to see other register details without switching my "logged in register" |
| 12:36 | ashimema | I can't remember.. when using point of sale to seek stuff.. if you have defaults or have selected a till for you it session ... Doesn't it revert the till selection with each transaction |
| 12:37 | Well..that's why there's library details and register details | |
| 12:37 | So you can quickly get to see your 'current' register details page if you have one for your session but can also see other tills in the library if you need to | |
| 12:38 | * ashimema | needs to quickly drive home.. will be about 10 mins offline |
| 12:40 | magnuse | there aren't any plugins for organizing "events" in koha, right? like registering participants for a book talk or a games evening? |
| 12:42 | caroline_catlady | magnuse: maybe the clubs function? |
| 12:44 | oleonard | magnuse: We pay annually for a standalone system for that, so if you want to write one for Koha feel free :D |
| 12:44 | caroline_catlady | oleonard: i'm curious which one you use? |
| 12:45 | oleonard | LibraryCalendar from LibraryMarket |
| 12:46 | caroline_catlady | We have a "partnership" with Amilia and integrated Koha with their software for one library https://www.amilia.com/ |
| 12:49 | oleonard | We used an event calendar system from Demco for a while and it was hot garbage. |
| 12:50 | caroline_catlady | not room temperature garbage or even warm garbage, but hot! |
| 12:50 | oleonard | caroline_catlady: I don't know why the garbage is hot, it's just the way the idiom is! :D |
| 12:51 | caroline_catlady | it must be because it smells more ;) |
| 12:51 | * oleonard | biab |
| 12:52 | ashimema | Back |
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| 13:31 | Joubu | dev meeting in 30min |
| 13:31 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 27644: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org[…]0da0df87f5316652b> |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 23271: Prevent crash if called without parameters <https://git.koha-community.org[…]90c5037145cb935f7> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 27644: (QA follow-up) Remove size=1 from template <https://git.koha-community.org[…]720d6acb37e174288> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 14300: Add %P to SIP LogPattern <https://git.koha-community.org[…]2e7b6dbb3e839c9c2> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 23271: Remove 'selecteds' from Branches <https://git.koha-community.org[…]cdc10e86c5ff32e9e> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 23271: (QA follow-up) Minor POD fix <https://git.koha-community.org[…]de04eb01f7196ab62> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 28127: add transaction timestamp to register details tables <https://git.koha-community.org[…]8060ca79f0e642016> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 28119: Use full description in layout type selection <https://git.koha-community.org[…]1ace97ec7fbcb4884> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 27644: (follow-up) Wrap strings in translation function <https://git.koha-community.org[…]cfc0eb2c098977835> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 23583: Handle OpacHiddenItems with yaml_preference <https://git.koha-community.org[…]f31e4054cd92f5a1f> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 28086: OpacMaintenance page should use ReplytoDefault if set <https://git.koha-community.org[…]f8901ef1be088181e> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 21883: Show authorized value description for withdrawn in check-in <https://git.koha-community.org[…]3083f2bac606cd3bb> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 27644: Add button to SQL report editor for inserting runtime parameters <https://git.koha-community.org[…]eca8efbee94958af5> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 27465: Add column visibility to admin/cities.pl <https://git.koha-community.org[…]72f2448d92aeac32b> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 21883: Pass the item to the template <https://git.koha-community.org[…]39fcf8a8087c18dbd> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 23243: (follow-up) Update wording as requested <https://git.koha-community.org[…]404429d7446d768c8> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 23243: Adjust previous patch <https://git.koha-community.org[…]afa691ca9c42b0a7c> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 23271: Replace search_limited with search_with_library_limits <https://git.koha-community.org[…]8152646257d9accba> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 23271: Use Koha::Object::Limit::Library for Koha::Patron::Categories <https://git.koha-community.org[…]966dbf762f9524419> | |
| 13:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 23243: Restore filtering out historic expired subscriptions <https://git.koha-community.org[…]7ecdc120ff4072fe8> | |
| 13:47 | magnuse | caroline_catlady, oleonard-away thanks! |
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| 13:57 | oleonard | dev meeting in 3min |
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| 13:58 | talljoy | good morning! |
| 13:58 | oleonard | Hi talljoy |
| 13:59 | talljoy: Are you still on a tropical island?? | |
| 13:59 | talljoy | ha no! |
| 13:59 | thd | It would be good if my second jab headache would go away in three minutes. |
| 14:00 | Joubu | qa_team? |
| 14:00 | wahanui | qa_team is, like, cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, josef_moravec, kidclamp, khall and tuxayo |
| 14:00 | Joubu | rmaints? |
| 14:00 | wahanui | i think rmaints is fridolin, AndrewFH and tuxayo |
| 14:00 | oleonard | talljoy: Can I at least assume it's not snowing where you are? |
| 14:00 | Joubu | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 21 April 2021 |
| 14:00 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Apr 21 14:00:20 2021 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:00 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 14:00 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 April 2021) | |
| 14:00 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_21_april_2021' |
| 14:00 | talljoy | no snow in the desert!! |
| 14:00 | right no | |
| 14:00 | now | |
| 14:00 | Joubu | #topic Introductions |
| 14:00 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 April 2021) | |
| 14:00 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 14:00 | sorry for interupting you! :) | |
| 14:00 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions |
| 14:00 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:01 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 14:01 | henryb | #info Henry Bolshaw, House of Lords Library, UK |
| 14:01 | talljoy | #info Joy Nelson, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:01 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
| 14:01 | Joubu | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ing_21_April_2021 |
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| 14:02 | Joubu | hi all :) |
| 14:02 | #topic Announcements | |
| 14:02 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 April 2021) | |
| 14:02 | Joubu | Anyone have something? |
| 14:02 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS-Europe |
| 14:03 | Joubu | #topic Update from the Release Manager (21.05) |
| 14:03 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release Manager (21.05) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 April 2021) | |
| 14:03 | Joubu | Release dates have been announced on the general mailing list earlier today: |
| 14:03 | * May 1st - "Soft" feature freeze, nothing big or with high risk of side-effects will be included into the final release if not marked as Passed QA | |
| 14:03 | * May 4-7 - "Hard" feature freeze, nothing considered as an improvement will be pushed if not marked as Passed QA | |
| 14:03 | * May 12th - String freeze, draft of release notes published | |
| 14:03 | * May 19th - Only bug fixes considered as major, critical or blocker will be pushed | |
| 14:03 | * May 28th - Final release | |
| 14:03 | tcohen | Joubu++ |
| 14:03 | Joubu | how does it sound? |
| 14:04 | tcohen | Great, releasing a friday means beer party |
| 14:04 | oleonard | +1 |
| 14:04 | Joubu | I will start using the rel_21_05_candidate bz keyword more and more, keep an eye on it - https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_21_05_candidate |
| 14:04 | thd | +1 |
| 14:04 | cait | souns good but scares me the same time |
| 14:04 | does that count? | |
| 14:04 | henryb | It sounds great but everything is happening so fast! |
| 14:04 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 14:04 | henryb foudn the better words :) | |
| 14:05 | ashimema | +1 |
| 14:05 | Joubu | cannot be later than on 28th :) |
| 14:05 | ashimema | indeed |
| 14:05 | Joubu | You should also watch the bug reports with missing release notes |
| 14:05 | ashimema | it's the usual flow |
| 14:05 | Joubu | There is a shared search |
| 14:05 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]run&sharer_id=378 | |
| 14:05 | khall | #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:05 | Joubu | #info keep an eye on the 21.05 candidate list https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_21_05_candidate |
| 14:06 | #info Watchout the missing release notes! https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]run&sharer_id=378 | |
| 14:06 | henryb | To clarify, I wasn't suggesting the timetable should change I'm just surprised how quickly time passes :) |
| 14:07 | Joubu | heh yes, only 1 month left! |
| 14:07 | cait | I understood it like that |
| 14:07 | Joubu | 5 weeks! |
| 14:07 | ashimema | is there a new roadmap doc for planning the next cycle yet? |
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| 14:07 | Joubu | ashimema: we could start thinking about it indeed, like in 2 weeks? |
| 14:07 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #568: UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/568/ |
| 14:08 | * ashimema | likes to have a place to put things early.. that way he can put them there then they're out of his brain so he can concentrate on the more immediate tasks |
| 14:08 | Joubu | ~2 weeks before the release. But we should focus on 21.05 first :) |
| 14:09 | ashimema | haha.. I'll just note mine locally for now then .. and try to get them out of my brain |
| 14:09 | Joubu | yes, I have mine already as well ;) |
| 14:09 | will be fun to merge them | |
| 14:09 | #topic Updates from the QA team | |
| 14:09 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 April 2021) | |
| 14:10 | thd | Writing things tends to reduce brain consumption. |
| 14:10 | Joubu | NQA queue is back under 100 |
| 14:11 | but still too many, and we have 2 criticals + 2 majors | |
| 14:11 | ashimema | I've struggled to focus on QA much this month.. only really had a couple of days |
| 14:11 | cait | same here |
| 14:11 | kidclamp | trying to do what I can when I can |
| 14:11 | cait | we need more hands on deck |
| 14:11 | ashimema | little dissapointing I'm still number 3 in the list.. even with that being the case |
| 14:11 | * oleonard | has been trying to focus on non-enh signoffs |
| 14:11 | ashimema | nice one oleonard |
| 14:12 | cait | yep |
| 14:12 | Joubu | that's the way oleonard, thanks :) |
| 14:12 | cait | but we also have some long istting stuff |
| 14:12 | ashimema | istting? |
| 14:12 | cait | personally... I'd be really really happy to see bug 14237 movign |
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| 14:12 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=14237 enhancement, P2, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Allow bibs to be added to course without items |
| 14:12 | cait | sitting sorry |
| 14:12 | maya-das | hi |
| 14:12 | oleonard | Hi maya-das we are in the middle of a developers meeting at the moment, stick around until after if you have a question |
| 14:13 | tcohen | cait: will take a look today |
| 14:13 | cait | hi maya-das - we are just in ameeting, you are welcome to stay, but questions might be a bit hard to answer right now |
| 14:13 | oleonard: jinx? :) | |
| 14:13 | oleonard | :) |
| 14:14 | maya-das | oleonard >> ok |
| 14:14 | cait | nothing more to add for QA i think |
| 14:14 | Joubu | something else for/from QA? |
| 14:14 | cait | please look at the bad and the old as pointed out in my mails :) (and beyond those of course) |
| 14:14 | Joubu | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers |
| 14:14 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 April 2021) | |
| 14:14 | Joubu | (yes I did swap the 2 topics!) |
| 14:15 | cait | trying to keep us on our toes |
| 14:15 | Joubu | April releases are expected for Monday 26th |
| 14:15 | #info April releases are expected for Monday 26th | |
| 14:15 | cait | i noticed the strings haven't been updated for 20.11 |
| 14:16 | they had been already updated before, but not since fridolin announced and there were some strings pushed | |
| 14:16 | Joubu | do we need to ping Bernardo? |
| 14:16 | cait | i am not sure, i was hoping to catch fridolin today, but haven't spotted him yet |
| 14:16 | i am nto sure how this works at the moment | |
| 14:16 | Joubu | Were you saying pootle is not up-to-date? |
| 14:16 | cait | it looks like the scheduled string update around 15th happened |
| 14:17 | but none after | |
| 14:17 | yes | |
| 14:17 | ashimema | also.. manual builds for 20.11 are broken again |
| 14:17 | cait | after 15th new strings were pushed and 20.11 string frezeed announced |
| 14:17 | Joubu | ok, we will catch Frido when he will be around then |
| 14:17 | cait | but i am waiting for some navigation links to show up and they haven't yet |
| 14:18 | bug 28006 | |
| 14:18 | Joubu | ashimema: because of disk space issues again? |
| 14:18 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28006 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to stable , Restore "Additional fields" link on serials navigation menu |
| 14:18 | ashimema | I don't think so |
| 14:18 | it was the merges of translations that hit it.. those builds are taking longer than the 1h timeout on gitlab build servers I think | |
| 14:18 | I've not investigated deeply yet | |
| 14:19 | Joubu | @later tell fridolin looks like the string for 20.11 are not up-to-date on pootle, something missing in your workflow for April? |
| 14:19 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:19 | Joubu | string*s* |
| 14:20 | ashimema: erk, did you raise an alert flag? Can we extend the timeout? | |
| 14:20 | ashimema | I literally got told about it 20 mins before this meeting |
| 14:20 | ;) | |
| 14:20 | so haven't done anything yet ;) | |
| 14:20 | Joubu | ok, will see after the meeting then :) |
| 14:20 | ashimema | looking at the builds it's been dead for a month |
| 14:20 | Joubu | #topic Status of roadmap projects |
| 14:20 | Topic for #koha is now Status of roadmap projects (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 April 2021) | |
| 14:21 | Joubu | things are stuck for most of the topics |
| 14:21 | I am still hoping a QA stamp on bug 22544 | |
| 14:21 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=22544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Patch doesn't apply , Move C4:NewsChannels to Koha namespace |
| 14:21 | Joubu | ha, does not apply! I missed that one :D |
| 14:21 | ashimema | Katrin was on that.. but it's failing to apply |
| 14:21 | aha :) | |
| 14:22 | Joubu | and some QA issues need to be fixed on bug 14957 |
| 14:22 | cait | yeah i tried, but didn't get far sorry |
| 14:22 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=14957 new feature, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, Failed QA , Write protecting MARC fields based on source of import |
| 14:22 | cait | same |
| 14:22 | Joubu | I will rebased the news stuff right after the meeting! |
| 14:22 | mtj | #info Mason James, NZ |
| 14:22 | Joubu | #topic Actions from last meeting |
| 14:22 | Topic for #koha is now Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 April 2021) | |
| 14:22 | mtj | hi people, sorry i'm late :) |
| 14:23 | Joubu | #topic Joubu create the "roles for 21.11" wiki page and send an email to the list |
| 14:23 | Topic for #koha is now Joubu create the "roles for 21.11" wiki page and send an email to the list (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 April 2021) | |
| 14:23 | Joubu | done, see https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_21.11 |
| 14:23 | (lot of people missing there!) | |
| 14:23 | cait | hi mtj - difficult time for you! |
| 14:23 | maybe weshoudl put election date on the page | |
| 14:24 | that's been set already, right? | |
| 14:24 | Joubu | yes, next general meeting |
| 14:24 | wahanui | somebody said next general meeting was 13 November, so does 14 November 13:00 ITC work okay? |
| 14:24 | Joubu | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eting_12_May_2021 |
| 14:24 | 12 May 2021, 14:00 UTC | |
| 14:24 | cait | and add elections there? |
| 14:24 | i am on it | |
| 14:24 | Joubu | thanks |
| 14:25 | #topic mtj write something about the new packages for the 21.05 release notes | |
| 14:25 | Topic for #koha is now mtj write something about the new packages for the 21.05 release notes (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 April 2021) | |
| 14:25 | Joubu | done - https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]iki/Package_types |
| 14:25 | thanks mtj for that one! | |
| 14:25 | #info New wiki page to explain the different debian packages has been written - https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]iki/Package_types | |
| 14:25 | #topic ashimema Write a coding guideline to clarify our message types: 'alert' vs 'error' (context of bug 27695) | |
| 14:25 | Topic for #koha is now ashimema Write a coding guideline to clarify our message types: 'alert' vs 'error' (context of bug 27695) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 April 2021) | |
| 14:25 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27695 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Fix style of messages on Elasticsearch configuration page |
| 14:26 | ashimema | I need to postpone that one once again |
| 14:26 | sorry.. just haven't had a moment | |
| 14:26 | Joubu | #action ashimema Write a coding guideline to clarify our message types: 'alert' vs 'error' (context of bug 27695) |
| 14:26 | ashimema | thanks |
| 14:26 | Joubu | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
| 14:26 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 April 2021) | |
| 14:26 | Joubu | #topic Email unsubscribe - CAN-SPAM / GDPR - how to implement opt-out for Koha |
| 14:26 | Topic for #koha is now Email unsubscribe - CAN-SPAM / GDPR - how to implement opt-out for Koha (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 April 2021) | |
| 14:26 | Joubu | kidclamp: ? |
| 14:26 | cait | wiki updates done |
| 14:27 | kidclamp | This is something we are working on as we face some issues in sending out emails |
| 14:27 | Patrons will mark messages as SPAM, this eventually can put our servers on block lists | |
| 14:27 | cait | interesting |
| 14:27 | kidclamp | one of the features that is needed is an 'Unsubscribe' link in the messages |
| 14:28 | or alternately, a way to show that patrons have agreed to receive transactional message | |
| 14:28 | cait | sounds like a good idea in general |
| 14:28 | Joubu | yes, definitely |
| 14:28 | kidclamp | really we are interested in whether there are any GDPR related issues around this, or if anyone else int he community faces this problem? |
| 14:28 | ashimema | yup.. |
| 14:28 | Joubu | it's mandatory |
| 14:28 | ashimema | we've never had such a problem |
| 14:29 | Joubu | you have to include an unsubscribe link |
| 14:29 | (I...think) | |
| 14:29 | cait | not sure if that applies to overdues |
| 14:29 | kidclamp | how have libraries implemented it? |
| 14:29 | in theory overdues are excluded for us too, but in practice they still count against us | |
| 14:30 | cait | I know that there is discussion about informational emails |
| 14:30 | if it's not related to their actions witht he library | |
| 14:30 | you can't just emai them things | |
| 14:30 | but stuff related to their circulation directly (renewal, overdue) should be ok i think | |
| 14:31 | if we get questions about other types of email we help get a list, but we tell them to check with their appointed data privacy person | |
| 14:32 | if that makes sense? we haven' t had requests so far as you can opt them out of most messages and we are not using all of them anyway | |
| 14:32 | via messaging preferences you can turn off a lot of the emails... are there some more problematic than others? | |
| 14:32 | kidclamp | the patron_emailer script doesn't have an opt-out currently |
| 14:33 | cait | yeah we don't use that at all at the moment |
| 14:33 | kidclamp | and I think ooffering an unsubscribe on the overdues would be an eventual goal for us |
| 14:33 | cait | if it's a marker you put in the templates, it's would be easy to control when it shows |
| 14:34 | kidclamp | Kyle and I discussed this morning the possibility of adding 'my messages' to patron opac view, and adding a transport of way for patrons to get notices in the opac, but not necessarily have them 'sent' |
| 14:34 | cait | i think there is an open bug to have the message view i staff in opac too alreay |
| 14:34 | that goes the same direction | |
| 14:34 | ashimema | for unsubscribe I really wonder about just linking to the patron messaging preferences |
| 14:34 | kidclamp | largely though, it sounds like no one is finding they need additional option to meet GDPR requirements or others? |
| 14:34 | cait | and then we culd have a message transport type "opac" to |
| 14:34 | ashimema | and trying to follow through and add more of the notices to that set |
| 14:35 | cait | but i'd still show them all if we are on that already |
| 14:35 | Joubu | that's a nice idea, kidclamp. Even we could enqueue things even if a patron does not have the mtt (like no email), and it would be visible in their OPAC account |
| 14:35 | ashimema | I do like that idea too |
| 14:35 | Joubu | kidclamp: ask the list? :) |
| 14:35 | tuxayo | #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France |
| 14:36 | * tuxayo | scrolls back |
| 14:36 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master build #1620: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_Master/1620/ |
| 14:36 | kidclamp | can do, we are working on deciding waht we need and how we should implement, so just collecting info for now |
| 14:37 | cait | kidclamp: i think having privacy features like that is never wrong, even if it's not a must have maybe |
| 14:37 | or not a must have evrywhere | |
| 14:38 | kidclamp | talljoy: any more questions you have? |
| 14:39 | I think we can move on, and we will email the list if we have more questions | |
| 14:40 | Joubu | #action kidclamp Ask the ML for additional info about how to implement opt-out for notices. One idea would be to have "My message" at the OPAC |
| 14:40 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 14:40 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 April 2021) | |
| 14:40 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1624: UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1624/ |
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| 14:41 | Joubu | #info Next meeting: 5 May 2021 14 UTC |
| 14:41 | no objections? | |
| 14:41 | 5sec | |
| 14:41 | #endmeeting | |
| 14:41 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org | |
| 14:41 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Apr 21 14:41:31 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 14:41 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-04-21-14.00.html | |
| 14:41 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]1-04-21-14.00.txt | |
| 14:41 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]21-14.00.log.html | |
| 14:41 | thd | +1 |
| 14:41 | kidclamp | Joubu++ |
| 14:43 | tuxayo | Caught up!! |
| 14:43 | > #endmeeting | |
| 14:43 | lol | |
| 14:44 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #550: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 12 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/550/ |
| 14:44 | cait | Joubu++ |
| 14:45 | * tuxayo | will finally use the calendar feature of phones. |
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| 14:47 | * thd | goes to rest his post jab headache for a chance of productivity again in a few hours. |
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| 14:59 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 23271: Fix Template/Plugin/Branches.t <https://git.koha-community.org[…]b3cc9ff5344213905> |
| 14:59 | ashimema | aha.. I've found a gitlab setting.. I can up from a 1h timeout up to 3hr |
| 15:00 | I've done that and re-triggered the build | |
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| 15:28 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 23271: Fix random failure from Categories.t <https://git.koha-community.org[…]8464821845f40dc4a> |
| 15:31 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U2010 build #156: UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Master_U2010/156/ |
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| 15:40 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 15:40 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 15:40 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master build #1621: FIXED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_Master/1621/ |
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| 15:45 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:52 | oleonard | henryb++ |
| 15:52 | Bug 28188 | |
| 15:52 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28188 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Accessibility: OPAC - the contrast ratio for text is insufficient [OMNIBUS] |
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| 16:31 | oleonard | my $theme = $input->param('theme'); # only used if allowthemeoverride is set |
| 16:31 | ^^ a real ancient relic | |
| 16:31 | davewood | I imported some records using bulkmarcimport.pl ... now I have updated the import file and want to update the existing records but I get lots of these messages:"Item not added (bib 54439, item tag #1, barcode 74002): duplicate barcode 74002" |
| 16:32 | maya-das joined #koha | |
| 16:32 | maya-das | hi |
| 16:32 | davewood | `bulkmarcimport.pl -m MARCXML -file foo.xml -d` |
| 16:33 | I tried with `-update -isbn` and also with `-update` but the script complains about a missing -match param and I dont know which field to pick. | |
| 16:35 | if i do `-update -isbn` the script complains: "WARNING: Updating record failed at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl live 470 <GEN24> ... use of uninitialized value $originalid in concatenation ..." | |
| 16:36 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D11 build #269: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D11/269/ |
| 17:00 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 17:00 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 17:00 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #551: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/551/ |
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| 17:24 | Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #296: STILL FAILING in 2 hr 9 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ter_D10_CPAN/296/ | |
| 17:27 | davewood | and if i use the web interface to import marcxml the pulldown menu "Record matching rule" only offers one option: 'do not look for matching records' |
| 17:28 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 17:28 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 17:28 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #569: FIXED in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/569/ |
| 17:31 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 17:31 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 17:32 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 17:32 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 17:32 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1626: FIXED in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1626/ |
| 17:34 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 17:34 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 17:34 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U2010 build #157: FIXED in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Master_U2010/157/ |
| 17:42 | Project Koha_Master build #1622: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_Master/1622/ | |
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| 17:51 | cait | hello |
| 17:51 | someone still around? | |
| 17:51 | * oleonard | me |
| 17:52 | cait | oh :) |
| 18:02 | oleonard | cait++ |
| 18:09 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 18:33 | tcohen | oleonard have you recently added columns settings |
| 18:33 | oleonard | Yes |
| 18:33 | cait | :) |
| 18:34 | the cities just got added to the ist i think (not by oleonard tho) | |
| 18:34 | tcohen | I'm finding it impossible to make a column hidden by default |
| 18:34 | cait | i qa'd something that might be the cause i hink? sorry to interrupt |
| 18:34 | * oleonard | working on Bug 28177 |
| 18:34 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28177 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add date column and column configuration to uploads |
| 18:35 | cait | bug 28096 |
| 18:35 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28096 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , API datatables wrapper does not deal correctly with hidden columns |
| 18:35 | cait | hm, already in master now |
| 18:36 | oleonard | tcohen: Are you using the wrapper? |
| 18:36 | tcohen | no |
| 18:36 | I'm adding a column to the itemtypes table | |
| 18:36 | cait | sorry for the red hering |
| 18:37 | tcohen | cait might be it, though |
| 18:37 | oleonard | Using "is_hidden: 1" in columns_settings.yml isn't working? |
| 18:37 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "oleonard cait" (29 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/200 |
| 18:38 | oleonard | tcohen: You restarted all the things? |
| 18:38 | cait | +1 |
| 18:39 | * tcohen | does it again, just in case |
| 18:39 | will delete all the cookies and all | |
| 18:39 | tcohen | just doing a reset_all |
| 18:39 | he | |
| 18:42 | it is there | |
| 18:42 | damn | |
| 18:42 | cait | aren't disappearing bugs good? |
| 18:43 | tcohen | the table config has the 'hidden by default' checkbox set |
| 18:43 | but https://snipboard.io/fBZ7hg.jpg | |
| 18:44 | this is interesting | |
| 18:44 | cait | have you checked he number of columsn matches? |
| 18:44 | maybe it's off by one? | |
| 18:44 | tcohen | it seems to be |
| 18:44 | but | |
| 18:44 | what should I check? where? | |
| 18:44 | cait | check the yaml definitions first i'd say |
| 18:45 | tcohen | ha |
| 18:45 | yaml has 15, table has 16 | |
| 18:45 | it was not me, for sure | |
| 18:45 | he | |
| 18:46 | cait | hm maybe could be a separat ebug then for backport? |
| 18:47 | oleonard | parent code wasn't added to the yml |
| 18:49 | tcohen | how do things match, oleonard? |
| 18:49 | it is not by position, as code and description are swapped on the UI | |
| 18:50 | cait | hm always thought it was position to be honest |
| 18:50 | tcohen | me too, but just noticed code and description are swapped |
| 18:51 | oleonard | It is by position, so the columns settings are wrong |
| 18:51 | tcohen | ok |
| 18:51 | oleonard | If you hide code by default, description will be hidden instead |
| 18:51 | All kinds of bugs shaking loose :D | |
| 18:53 | cait | mean Koha... sabotaging my course reserves bug |
| 18:54 | oleonard | I don't know why it didn't occur to me sooner... There's no reason for us to use labels like "parent_code" in table settings when we could use "Parent code." |
| 18:54 | cait | next you will suggest to make these files translatable! :D |
| 18:55 | oleonard | Oh right :( |
| 18:55 | cait | that was not that kind of comment |
| 18:55 | i am ok with using non-codes | |
| 18:55 | and we COULD aim to add htem to yaml translations | |
| 18:55 | if the sequence matters, nothing woudl speak against that, wouldn't it? | |
| 18:55 | tcohen | ok, will file the bug and CC you both he |
| 18:56 | oleonard | yaml translations? |
| 18:56 | tcohen | yup |
| 18:56 | cait | yeah like the installer files |
| 18:56 | tcohen | want it done for tomorrow morning |
| 18:57 | cait | or the syspref files |
| 18:58 | odd idea? | |
| 18:58 | all separate bugs of curse | |
| 18:58 | course | |
| 19:05 | oleonard | Oh, so the new translation stuff in gulpfile.js really just targets specific files or kinds of files for translation... I guess I'd never really looked at it |
| 19:06 | ...but passes the files to different translation scripts based on the type... | |
| 19:06 | Hm. | |
| 19:06 | cait | hm i think it might only work in tt and js? |
| 19:06 | .... and inc? | |
| 19:06 | not sure | |
| 19:06 | or some directories | |
| 19:06 | * oleonard | Don't hate oleonard just because he's looking at this for the first time |
| 19:06 | cait | i guess that for parsing the yaml code some other code is used |
| 19:07 | i could never | |
| 19:08 | oleonard | Well, it's definitely worth pursuing, but I'd have to get jajm's help for sure |
| 19:08 | tcohen | what new translation stuff? |
| 19:08 | hahaha | |
| 19:08 | cait | we could start with filing a bug for making them human readabe |
| 19:08 | an dmaybe another for making them translatable? | |
| 19:10 | tcohen | I find the way it is done (column indexes) too fragile |
| 19:10 | we should start by adding some real names to columns to avoid issues like this one | |
| 19:10 | we could add data-column-name='parent_code' | |
| 19:11 | and make the library just match that, instead of doing arithmetics | |
| 19:11 | and let's make the column names translatable, and match those on the template, hehe | |
| 19:11 | oleonard | That sounds good to me tcohen, but the table settings js always makes my head hurt when I try to understand it |
| 19:12 | tcohen | that's exactly what I mean :-D |
| 19:12 | bug 28190 | |
| 19:12 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28190 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Library limitation column not toggable on itemtypes table |
| 19:18 | tcohen | cait, oleonard: I think the column should be named 'Automatic return' instead, BTW |
| 19:20 | oleonard | What is automatic return?? |
| 19:20 | cait | checkin |
| 19:21 | not reutrn | |
| 19:21 | please | |
| 19:21 | tcohen | I'm not changing anything |
| 19:21 | just saying | |
| 19:21 | it sounds better | |
| 19:21 | :-D | |
| 19:21 | cait | we got a terminology list for reasons :) |
| 19:22 | oleonard | But...what is it? |
| 19:23 | cait | the feature? |
| 19:25 | tcohen | oleonard is resurrecting the discussion about terminology |
| 19:25 | hehe | |
| 19:26 | cait | i fele like you are trying to start a fight here more than oleonard :) |
| 19:26 | oleonard | Automatic return is when my books walk home by themselves? |
| 19:26 | cait | lol |
| 19:26 | yes | |
| 19:26 | actually i am thinking about using it with our ill backend | |
| 19:26 | when you check out the articles to them, but they don't ever need to return them... | |
| 19:34 | tcohen | cait I'm not sure about that workflow |
| 19:35 | cait | open to better ideas |
| 19:35 | tcohen | feels more like an article request to me :-D |
| 19:35 | cait | yes and no |
| 19:35 | article requests don't 'do' much at the moment | |
| 19:35 | tcohen | how so? |
| 19:35 | cait | it is an article request |
| 19:35 | tcohen | ah, but that could change soon :-D |
| 19:35 | cait | it's just harder to tie it into statistics and such |
| 19:35 | than a circ action | |
| 19:35 | something to discuss for sure | |
| 19:36 | tcohen | I like it |
| 19:36 | cait | course reserves bug? |
| 19:36 | heh | |
| 19:37 | tcohen | oleonard++ |
| 19:37 | that was fast | |
| 19:45 | cait | oleonard is like the flash |
| 19:45 | oleonard? | |
| 19:45 | wahanui | somebody said oleonard was seeing some buggy stuff though |
| 19:45 | cait | oleonard is also like the Flash |
| 19:45 | wahanui | okay, cait. |
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| 20:56 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 20:56 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 20:56 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #273: FIXED in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.05_U16/273/ |
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