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| 03:22 | dcook | @later tell oleonard with bug 27497 is that the one that cait screenshotted? |
| 03:22 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:23 | dcook | @later tell oleonard lol or was it that one from comment 21? haha |
| 03:23 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:55 | dcook | @later tell oleonard figured out bug 27565 but it's more a question of time/effort commitment than smartness at this point |
| 03:55 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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| 05:56 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:27 | fridolin | hi tehre |
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| 06:50 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 06:59 | sophie_m | bonjour |
| 06:59 | wahanui | kia ora, sophie_m |
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| 08:45 | swebshet | Hello Guys, I just installed koha 20.11 version on ubuntu 20.04 which looks fine and I just added an electronic file(pdf) by setting upload.pl plugin to 856$u subfield and I was able to see Online resources: Click here to access online . How ever when I try to open the file I was looking this error We can’t connect to the server at cgi-bin. |
| 08:49 | cait1 | hm sorry, not sure what that could be |
| 08:50 | is it a complete url with http etc? | |
| 08:55 | swebshet | http://cgi-bin/koha/opac-retri[…]e3be31c8313986147 |
| 08:55 | Here is the link | |
| 09:00 | Joubu | check the opacbaseurl system preference |
| 09:07 | swebshet | I just updates the OPACBaseURL ->http://127.0.0.1 |
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| 09:14 | swebshet | Still I coudn't solve the problem.Is there something that needs to be done on the ownership of the uploads folder chown -R www-data:www-data /var/lib/koha/..../uploads/ |
| 09:17 | Joubu | it should be owned by the koha user |
| 09:33 | fridolin | wahanui: i'm i online ? |
| 09:33 | wahanui | fridolin: no idea |
| 09:33 | fridolin | thanks |
| 09:36 | magnuse | shouldn't it be possible to update the attribute/value of a patron attribute, without first deleting and then adding a new attribute with the same code? |
| 09:36 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "examples of trying to update a patron attribute" (77 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/183 |
| 09:37 | magnuse | what am i doing wrong? |
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| 09:43 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
| 09:43 | Joubu | magnuse: your script looks ok |
| 09:43 | did you try on master? | |
| 09:43 | I've created a patron attribute X (non repeatable), then run your script twice | |
| 09:43 | and the patron's attribute got created then updated | |
| 09:44 | (the first version) | |
| 09:48 | magnuse | Joubu: i'm on 20.05.06 - maybe that is too old? |
| 09:49 | thanks for testing! | |
| 09:49 | Joubu | there have been some changes in master recently, maybe it's a bug that got fixed |
| 10:22 | oleonard | Hi all |
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| 10:24 | henryb | Hi everyone |
| 10:25 | oleonard | Hi henryb |
| 10:26 | henryb | Hi oleonard! |
| 10:26 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 10:26 | henryb | How do we create coding guidelines and qa tests? I think it would be a good idea to add some more accessibility guidelines to make sure new features are accessible |
| 10:27 | Is the process: propose a guideline at the dev meeting and then .... someone magically creates a test? | |
| 10:27 | Can anyone create a test or just joubu, ashimema etc? | |
| 10:27 | I have no idea how to make tests but would be happy to learn | |
| 10:29 | oleonard | Guidelines are generally voted on in meetings |
| 10:29 | ...and then QA tests are created if possible (usually by Joubu) | |
| 10:29 | henryb | I'm thinking something similar to the ones used by Deque's Axe browser extension: https://dequeuniversity.com/rules/axe/4.1 (obviously we'll need to chose our own relevant rules) |
| 10:30 | Thanks oleonard. So the guidelines come first and then we worry about the tests later | |
| 10:30 | Makes sense | |
| 10:31 | I haven't looked at the existing tests yet, so some of the stuff I'm thinking of (Requiring labels, alt-text etc.) might already be covered | |
| 10:31 | *tests and guidelines | |
| 10:36 | oleonard | henryb: Accessibility issues are the kind of thing that I would say doesn't need to be in the rules before it can trigger a failed QA. The problem is catching them during testing. |
| 10:38 | henryb | Ok that's good. I thought it might make it easier for people to meet accessibility if there were guidelines (assuming devs read the coding guidelines?) |
| 10:38 | And automating the tests might make it easier to catch the issues | |
| 10:39 | (although automated tests apparently only catch X% of accessibility issues) | |
| 10:39 | oleonard | I get the impression the coding guidelines are more often used after the fact, to point people to in response to a failed patch. |
| 10:39 | But I don't really know. | |
| 10:41 | henryb | So do you think it's worth me proposing some guidelines or not? e.g. on semantically ordered headings since we've had a few bugs on that recently? |
| 10:42 | I suppose I can propose them and everyone can vote them down if they're unnecessary/wrong! :D | |
| 10:43 | oleonard | Definitely worth proposing guidelines |
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| 10:45 | ashimema | They're here henryb |
| 10:45 | I even started an Accessibility section recently | |
| 10:45 | Yeah, they've generally used as something the QA person can point the finger at when we fail someone's patch.. though they're not a hard requirement for us to fail things | |
| 10:46 | Devs are encouraged to look at them and adding new one's, as oleonard said, requires a vote at a dev meeting and so it gets minuted and publicised minimally when we do.. which is nice. | |
| 10:46 | oleonard | Yeah the publicity aspect is good |
| 10:46 | ashimema | I'd suggest adding directly to that page with 'DRAFT' in the title for the guideline you're writing.. |
| 10:47 | then draw attention to it at a dev meeting by adding it to the agenda and we'll all agree it I'm sure. :) | |
| 10:47 | then Joubu or I will attempt to write a test so QA people catch them automatically.. | |
| 10:47 | henryb | Ok thanks ashimema and oleonard! |
| 10:47 | ashimema | :) |
| 10:47 | * ashimema | is happy to see things getting added there.. |
| 10:48 | should probably read all the guidelines again.. I bet some are outdated | |
| 10:48 | henryb | Oh and of course the next dev meeting is TOMORROW... :O |
| 10:48 | ashimema | hehe |
| 10:48 | they're regular.. ;) | |
| 10:48 | so don't strees :P | |
| 10:49 | swebshet | I can't view a file that was uploaded ->http://cgi-bin/koha/opac-retri[…]e3be31c8313986147 |
| 10:49 | oleonard | henryb: Also, everyone will approve anything you suggest :D |
| 10:49 | swebshet | We can’t connect to the server at cgi-bin. |
| 10:49 | an error message | |
| 10:50 | ashimema | oh.. also worth mentioning.. just adding a guidelines doesn't mean it'll get retrospectively applied.. if it's a change rather than just a clarification.. we'll need to draw up a bug tree to get it all fixed.. and try and find some motivation to get someone to take it on ;) |
| 10:50 | hehe.. yeah.. the approval thing is a bit of a formality really.. I can't see I've ever seen anything get voted against.. sometimes discussed and improved a little.. but never outright kicked back | |
| 10:51 | running for accessibility advocate again next cycle henryb ?.. | |
| 10:51 | might be nice to reach out and see if Wainui wants to join you ;) | |
| 10:51 | * ashimema | bets he just spelt her name wrong |
| 10:52 | henryb | I think Wainui has already signed up! |
| 10:52 | ashimema | Oh nice one! |
| 10:52 | henryb | I'd like to but I need to have an 'internal discussion' before I can commit |
| 10:52 | ashimema | understood |
| 10:53 | henryb | Although I'd like to be involved either way so it would probably just mean I did more in my own time |
| 10:53 | ashimema | if you're anything like me there's two.. one with the boss boss.. and one with the other boss (if you get my meaning) ;) |
| 10:53 | hehe | |
| 10:53 | I have a very understanding other half :P | |
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| 11:57 | * oleonard | wonders if we have an established way to format file size information |
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| 12:55 | oleonard | So some file uploads are added with some kind of default internal category... |
| 12:55 | ...or is that my old data... These files look very old... | |
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| 13:24 | oleonard | khall here? |
| 13:26 | khall: Bug 28064 | |
| 13:26 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28064 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Passed QA , Transits are not created at check in despite user responding 'Yes, print slip' to the prompt |
| 13:26 | cait1 | fridolin++ |
| 13:26 | khall | thanks oleonard! I thought that we'd found that before! |
| 13:40 | caroline | hi all! |
| 13:40 | back from many days of training! | |
| 13:41 | cait1 | online or on site? |
| 13:41 | and welcome back caroline :) | |
| 13:41 | caroline | online |
| 13:41 | cait1 | i figured out it's at elast equally exhausting for me |
| 13:42 | caroline | I find it's harder to gauge the rections and make sure eveybody understands |
| 13:43 | on-site, I can usually tell someone doesn't understand when I see their face | |
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| 14:01 | ashimema | silly question.. |
| 14:01 | wahanui | silly question.. is there anywhere in the UI where you can 'forgive' a charge? |
| 14:01 | cait1 | caroline: very true |
| 14:01 | ashimema | can you cancel a biblio level hold |
| 14:01 | cait1 | and you can stand behind them and help, i miss that |
| 14:02 | ashimema | ah yes.. they handle it |
| 14:04 | cait1 | ashimema: yes? |
| 14:04 | would be bad if you ocudln't, but it might depend on status, you can't in the opac once waiting etc. | |
| 14:08 | ashimema | mm |
| 14:09 | I'm digging through bug 25711 | |
| 14:09 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25711 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stalkernoid, Needs Signoff , Add ability to define expiredpickup charge for patron category and item type |
| 14:10 | ashimema | somehow, I feel like logically we shouldn't end up with an ExpireReservesMaxPickupDelayCharge if the item isn't waiting already.. |
| 14:10 | and.. if the item is waiting.. we've selected an item | |
| 14:10 | so we can reduce down some of the logic in that bug somewhat.. | |
| 14:10 | I think | |
| 14:16 | oleonard-away | wahanui: forget silly question.. |
| 14:16 | wahanui | oleonard-away, I didn't have anything matching silly question |
| 14:16 | oleonard-away | wahanui: forget silly question.. |
| 14:16 | wahanui | oleonard-away: I forgot silly question.. |
| 14:16 | oleonard | sneaky space |
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| 15:33 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:34 | ashimema | anyone out there fancy helping me to update https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]rt_Bibliographics at some point.. and perhaps porting that info to the manual? |
| 15:35 | henryb | Sorry, my head hurts just thinking about it! |
| 15:35 | ashimema | hehe |
| 15:35 | it needs a pretty hard core cataloguer ;) | |
| 15:36 | I wrote allot of it in a deep dive | |
| 15:36 | back in 2015 apparently.. lol | |
| 15:36 | I think things have improved since then.. but I'm not entirely sure.. lol | |
| 15:45 | cait1 | i always link to your desriptions when asked about it :) |
| 15:45 | no change since then i think | |
| 15:53 | caroline | I think you should ask Heather |
| 15:53 | she's a hardocre cataloguer and actually likes that | |
| 15:54 | kind of stuff | |
| 15:54 | cait1 | good idea |
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| 16:16 | ashimema | hehe |
| 16:16 | cool | |
| 16:17 | any thoughts on my final comment on bug 24023 cait? | |
| 16:17 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=24023 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , Add ability to create bundles of items |
| 16:18 | * ashimema | isn't sure how he ended up back in this land.. suddenly appears to be a few bugs around this stuff moving along.. stuff for 003 handling.. stuff for 'collections' as another type of multi-part resource.. and stuff for displaying component parts more nicely.. cool |
| 16:21 | ashimema | right.. I'm offski.. time for a cycle whilst the sun is still shining :) |
| 16:21 | have a good one #koha | |
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| 23:22 | ccordova | hi, |
| 23:22 | Can't call method "get_effective_marcorgcode" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/value_builder/marc21_orgcode.pl line 31. | |
| 23:23 | any idea of this error when trying to edit this record | |
| 23:26 | koha 20.11.04.000 | |
| 23:32 | this error occurred when editing and importing a record by z.3950 |
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