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| 03:43 | Gary | ANyone active right now? |
| 03:44 | I have a fresh install on debian, currenlty pushing through the onboarding and keep getting stuck at the 'Create a patron category' page when it asks for 'please only choose one enrollment period' | |
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| 03:56 | Gary | Hello @inlibro |
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| 06:45 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 09:27 | Joubu | ashimema, tcohen: please have a look at bug 25538 |
| 09:27 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25538 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , www/search_utf8.t is failing randomly |
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| 10:00 | did | hi, |
| 10:01 | can Koha run WITHOUT zebra installed at all? | |
| 10:02 | kohaputti | did, yup, with elasticsearch, and I guess it works even if you don't have elasticsearch but lots of things are then non-functional |
| 10:03 | it probably works the same way if you have selected zebra as the searchengine but don't have it running, not totally sure. | |
| 10:05 | did | kohaputti: thanks, yes with ES but without zebra, seems to me at least zebraqueue is never purged but it's populated by bug 16248 |
| 10:05 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16248 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, CLOSED FIXED, ModZebra doesn't update zebraqueue if ES is enabled |
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| 10:07 | Joubu | kidclamp: can you have a look at bug 25701 please? |
| 10:07 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25701 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Facets display in random order |
| 10:10 | kidclamp | looking |
| 10:23 | davidnind | Joubu: your patch for 25701 works for me, let me know if you want it signed off. |
| 10:24 | Joubu | davidnind: yes please :) |
| 10:26 | davidnind | done! |
| 10:27 | Joubu | thx |
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| 10:32 | ashimema | Thanks for picking off bug 25701 Joubu.. that was likely to end up on my list but after the accessibility work I'm in the middle of.. really happy to see that one done |
| 10:32 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25701 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Facets display in random order |
| 10:32 | ashimema | looking at bug 25538 now |
| 10:32 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25538 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , www/search_utf8.t is failing randomly |
| 10:40 | ashimema | -i seems sane to me |
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| 10:46 | Joubu | UI question - https://snipboard.io/TNvaDf.jpg => What's the "(1)" in the item list? |
| 10:46 | how can you have more than 1 there? | |
| 10:50 | ashimema | mm.. seems a little odd to me |
| 10:52 | kidclamp | make another with same callnumber |
| 10:52 | same availability. same home/holding, same location, same collection, same callnumber | |
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| 10:54 | davidnind | On master for me it shows as one line with 4 in brackets - doesn't show the [CN_XX], so maybe a system preference? |
| 10:54 | Joubu | kidclamp: https://snipboard.io/Cslw8V.jpg - there are 2 CN_1 |
| 10:56 | kidclamp | https://snipboard.io/5dham4.jpg |
| 10:56 | ashimema | regarding bug 25538 we actually already optionally allow setting a login shell.. should be instead be using that for running the tests? |
| 10:56 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25538 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , www/search_utf8.t is failing randomly |
| 10:56 | ashimema | as opposed to hard coding -i |
| 10:57 | kidclamp | Joubu: see my link above |
| 10:57 | ashimema | literally.. the line above your change |
| 10:57 | --login == -i in my reading | |
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| 10:58 | Joubu | ashimema: I don't understand. If you remove the -i you cannot `kshell` correctly |
| 10:58 | kidclamp: ok but... why not me?? | |
| 10:58 | :D | |
| 10:58 | kidclamp | you are looking at unavailable items, not the same code :-) |
| 10:59 | I am not defending how we do thing there, it is confusing | |
| 10:59 | Joubu | they are not "grouped" if on loan |
| 10:59 | but there is code to display "X Lost" | |
| 10:59 | and only for onloan items... | |
| 11:00 | tcohen | morning |
| 11:09 | ashimema | as in Joubu, you can run kshell as `kshell -l` to get a login shell |
| 11:10 | what I'm saying is your patch forces it.. so either you should remove the option as part of that (as it's no longer an option.. it's enabled by default) | |
| 11:10 | Joubu | Should not the default behaviour of kshell be to give you a login shell? |
| 11:10 | ashimema | pass |
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| 11:10 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 11:10 | ashimema | I've not delved deep enough yet ;) |
| 11:10 | still digging.. | |
| 11:11 | marcelr | looking for gold ? |
| 11:11 | ashimema | that was more a comment on the patch as is.. I would FQA it as it stands because it breaks the --login/-l option of the script |
| 11:12 | thus I would expect the option to be removed or reversed so you can request a non-login shell if you really want to. | |
| 11:12 | tcohen.. any thoughts on why kshell gives a non-login shell by default? | |
| 11:13 | tcohen | can you define non-login shell? |
| 11:13 | Joubu | indeed |
| 11:13 | what is supposed to to koha-shell without -l? To crash if not cmd passed? | |
| 11:14 | no* | |
| 11:14 | ashimema | i.e without --login or -i ;) |
| 11:14 | * ashimema | tries to remember robins irc nick |
| 11:14 | marcelr | eythian |
| 11:14 | ashimema | eythian ^ |
| 11:14 | that's the one.. | |
| 11:14 | had a mental block | |
| 11:15 | eythian | hi |
| 11:16 | ashimema | harking back to when you wrote koha-shell.. any hints as to why you didn't set --login/-i on the call to sudo by default? |
| 11:16 | and instead allowed it via an option | |
| 11:16 | eythian | cripes. |
| 11:16 | um. | |
| 11:16 | ashimema | haha.. |
| 11:16 | yeah.. brain dredging.. sorry ;) | |
| 11:16 | Joubu wants to default to -i (to help some tests pass)... | |
| 11:16 | eythian | My guess at the moment would be that if you use it in scripts to run commands, which is common, a login shell is less useful in some fashion. |
| 11:17 | ashimema | which I'm OK with.. but I'm not close enough as to why you wouldn't want to in the first place |
| 11:17 | Joubu | it should default to login if no cmd passed |
| 11:17 | eythian | I seem to recall the the default was chosen to align with something else, but I can't remember what. |
| 11:18 | Joubu: that's reasonable, so long as you also then have an option to turn it off (for example if you're piping commands into koha-shell.) | |
| 11:18 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 11:19 | Joubu | yep |
| 11:19 | eythian | I think it was do align with 'su' perhaps. |
| 11:19 | ashimema | aha.. piping.. that makes allot of sense :) |
| 11:20 | Joubu | ashimema: I am attaching a follow-up |
| 11:20 | ashimema | or.. where ever it is we're currently calling it prior to running all the tests at the moment we should just add the -l option there and not change koha-shell itself ? |
| 11:20 | thanks Joubu | |
| 11:21 | hope I wasn't sounding too picky ;) | |
| 11:21 | Joubu | nope, good catch! |
| 11:22 | tcohen | ah, we changed it into using sudo |
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| 11:30 | Joubu | tcohen: any ideas about what's missing on bug 22522? |
| 11:30 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22522 critical, P1 - high, ---, ere.maijala, Pushed to master , API authentication breaks with updated Mojolicious version |
| 11:30 | oleonard | ashimema I'm glad to see you raise the issue of the "maincontent" class in the OPAC, it was something I noticed was inconsistent in my Bootstrap 4 work. |
| 11:39 | tcohen | Joubu trying to read it |
| 11:40 | is that already pushed to 19.11.x? | |
| 11:40 | I mean, should I check the 19.11.x branch? | |
| 11:40 | Joubu | yes |
| 11:41 | checkout, prove and enjoy the failures | |
| 11:41 | you may need to cherry-pick the commit I am talking about in the last comment | |
| 11:41 | ashimema | pleasure oleonard.. I'm slowly working my way through them |
| 11:44 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #816: ABORTED in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/816/ |
| 11:50 | tcohen | shouldn't we fix the problem with koha-shell on the call in KTD? |
| 11:51 | Joubu | in the alias you mean? |
| 11:51 | before it was possible to `sudo koha-shell kohadev`, now it's broken | |
| 11:51 | I think we should restore the behaviour | |
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| 11:52 | TimothyAlexis | Hello :) |
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| 11:54 | TimothyAlexis | I want to tell everyone that I apologize for the times where I have been affected by stress and if it has extended to anyone else. I also want to thank everyone here for the helpfulness and compassion. Thank you. :) |
| 11:56 | Thank you magnuse, oleonard, joubu, ashimema, tuxayo, lukeG1, dcook and cait for your humble guidance on every occasion. | |
| 11:56 | oleonard | 👍️ |
| 12:01 | ashimema | Wonderful to hear TimothyAlexis :) |
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| 12:12 | TimothyAlexis | Looking at this: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=20573 I'm thinking, is the e-mail sent with misc/cronjobs/membership_expiry.pl ? |
| 12:12 | huginn | Bug 20573: minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron receives membership expiry notice but 'will expire soon' alert doesn't show for staff at checkout |
| 12:13 | TimothyAlexis | There is also a setting MembershipExpiryDaysNotice |
| 12:14 | If the e-mail is sent at a scheduled time and the actual expiration is triggered at a specific time during that date, then there could be a difference. | |
| 12:14 | Joubu | TimothyAlexis: the cronjob script enqueues it in the message_queue table |
| 12:16 | TimothyAlexis | We have added a button where patrons can renew their membership when logging in. But it happens that the e-mail is sent before it's actually triggered in the system. |
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| 13:02 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 13:02 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 13:02 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #817: FIXED in 1 hr 17 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/817/ |
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| 13:18 | TimothyAlexis | If the cronjob runs every 15 minutes then the message will be sent at latest 00:15, while it's set at a different time (same as patron creation I'd suppose). Is this how it's happening? |
| 13:20 | kohaputti | TimothyAlexis, the cron is which one? |
| 13:21 | there is first a cron which puts the message in the queue for sending and then process_message_queue.pl send those when its run | |
| 13:24 | oleonard | Anyone know why we're not already including Gettext.js in the OPAC? jajm? |
| 13:26 | jajm | oleonard, because it's not used anywhere in opac ? (i don't know, i'm just making a guess) |
| 13:27 | oleonard | Okay jajm I wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something |
| 13:28 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #13: STILL FAILING in 4 min 49 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D10/13/ |
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| 13:34 | oleonard | jajm is it a goal to eliminate the use of the _() function altogether? (single underscore) |
| 13:43 | jajm | oleonard-away, yes, i think it would be better if all js translations were using Gettext.js |
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| 14:27 | ashimema | did we ever decide is results-grouped is actually used still? |
| 14:36 | kohaputti | tcohen, ah, the zebra index is stored in Koha source code for unit tests at t/db_dependent/data/marc21/zebraexport/biblio/exported_records that's why it gave the error |
| 14:36 | maybe I could just mock the whole search function before it goes to any of the zebra stuff | |
| 14:38 | that would test the code I want to test Koha::Biblio::components, although misses then testing whether the zebra index has the new search field required for it to work | |
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| 14:43 | oleonard | ashimema: Let me know if you find the answer :D |
| 14:47 | ashimema | lol |
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| 14:58 | tcohen | jajm any advise on Turn Koha into a Mojo app testing? |
| 14:58 | it is my next assigned thing, make it happen | |
| 15:05 | jajm | tcohen, my advise would be to start by checking that basic features work (cataloguing, search, checkout/checkin), read the code, understand how the whole thing work, and then test a few specific things like uploading a file, exporting a MARC file and verifying its encoding |
| 15:05 | ashimema | we are sooooo inconsistent in our use of templates |
| 15:06 | tcohen | s/in our.*// |
| 15:06 | jajm | tcohen, and also verify that the patches do not break anything when you use standard apache+starman |
| 15:06 | ashimema | lol |
| 15:07 | oleonard | ashimema: ? |
| 15:07 | ashimema | you want examples.. lol |
| 15:08 | memberentry.. why do we use two templates for it.. one for 'edit' or 'add' and an additional one for 'submitted' | |
| 15:08 | I would have imagined we would either use one template for all three stages of the form.. or a distinct template for each | |
| 15:09 | the clubs tab is another interesting case.. it's uses ajax to embed a whole template into a page.. rather than using it as an include like everywhere else.. | |
| 15:10 | I'm working through these 'maincontent' issues.. that's what I'm looking at lots of templates | |
| 15:10 | other interesting inconsistency is how we nest divs.. in lots of cases what I think of as the main content is nested within a div with a suitable id matching the pages use.. | |
| 15:11 | Joubu | "413 developers" |
| 15:11 | ashimema | in other cases we don't both with the additional div and just stick the content directly inside the 'row-fluid' |
| 15:11 | indeed. | |
| 15:11 | I'd love to work through and clean them all up... | |
| 15:12 | or perhaps have a 'model template' we recommended as the starting point for all pages | |
| 15:13 | jajm | ashimema, a model template would be great, i always pick a random template as a starting point when creating a new page |
| 15:13 | ashimema | me too |
| 15:14 | and I've never really thought about how inconsistent we are until now.. | |
| 15:14 | as part of a set of accessibility tasks I'm working through I'm basically having to look at every template in the OPAC.. it's tedious | |
| 15:15 | I'm dreading the header level issues I've got to work through | |
| 15:15 | oleonard | ashimema I wish we could combine our efforts somehow but I don't think it would be standard procedures... I had to touch every OPAC template for Bug 20168 |
| 15:15 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Update of the OPAC bootstrap template to bootstrap v4 |
| 15:18 | oleonard | ashimema: I can work to incorporate your changes into my branch of course |
| 15:18 | ashimema | these are sooo going to conflict like mad |
| 15:18 | no worries | |
| 15:19 | I think this is going to end up as a huge number fo tiny patches spread across lots of bugs.. I'm ready and prepared for the rebase hell.. honestly as I need to backport these to a 19.11 for the customer in question it'll be good to do the initial work pre your bug and then adapt it to your bug as part of rebasing | |
| 15:20 | I'm very keen to jump on 20168 btw.. it'll be great to have that. | |
| 15:21 | oleonard | ashimema: Yes, I understand your position with regard to your customer, that's why I want to be very proactive in adapting my work to yours rather vice versa |
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| 15:25 | ashimema | is it just me or does the imageviewer template markup look a little funky? |
| 15:26 | they don't seem to add up to 12 for all rows to me | |
| 15:26 | I thought that was a requirement in bootstrap | |
| 15:31 | oleonard | I see that the page heading is in a .span9 div with no corresponding .span3. That's intentional to keep the heading contained within the same space as the large image in cases where the title is especially long |
| 15:32 | That is, it shouldn't extend over the right-hand column with the thumbnails (just a design decision) | |
| 15:32 | ashimema | oh, ok. :) |
| 15:33 | funky by design the | |
| 15:33 | n | |
| 15:33 | * ashimema | tries to work out where maincontent should sit |
| 15:34 | ashimema | probably in alongside the span9 of that div then.. rather than introducing another dib |
| 15:35 | oleonard | I would say so. I think the only gotcha with regard to adding IDs or classes to Bootstrap grid <div>s is that we don't want to be introducing additional style to that <div> which could break the grid layout |
| 15:35 | ashimema | indeed |
| 15:41 | ooh.. what is idref? | |
| 15:44 | wizzycray | hi, anybody seen something like a double up on a result page, but one of the biblionumbers doesn't exist anywhere in the database? This happens even after a reindex? |
| 15:44 | i... i am stumped. | |
| 15:46 | caroline | zebra or elastic? |
| 15:46 | wizzycray | zebra |
| 15:46 | caroline | With zebra I've seen it a lot if I reindex without -r |
| 15:47 | wizzycray | hrm |
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| 15:51 | wizzycray | that's an interesting observation because this one was done sliced |
| 15:52 | * oleonard | waves to wizzycray |
| 15:52 | wizzycray | and i may be wrong in the 2 minutes I looked at the sliced rebuild script |
| 15:52 | ashimema | er... |
| 15:52 | wizzycray | but it doesn't look like it passes a -r (though I could be wrong) |
| 15:52 | er? | |
| 15:52 | wahanui | er is as you said c |
| 15:52 | ashimema | oleonard.. did you already try adding a 'skip to main content' functionality? |
| 15:52 | oleonard | ashimema I have never tried |
| 15:53 | ashimema | interesting... |
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| 15:54 | ashimema | just found lines 2-13 in bootstrap/js/script.js |
| 15:54 | they're rather similar to what I'm adding | |
| 15:54 | wizzycray | hi @oleonard |
| 15:54 | oh bugger i've gone slack >.< | |
| 15:54 | * ashimema | wonders two things.. whether he should move his code to script.js instead of global.js and whether he should be closer matching |
| 15:54 | wizzycray | hi oleonard |
| 15:54 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 15:55 | eythian | hi oleopard |
| 15:55 | oleonard | Haha... yeah... That was intended to make the experience on mobile better by doing the same kind of thing, jumping past all the nav stuff... |
| 15:55 | Obviously that ended up being a little half-baked | |
| 15:58 | wizzycray | caroline++ |
| 15:58 | * ashimema | hasn't actually tried it on mobile for ages.. |
| 15:58 | wizzycray | that was a good thought and something I can check on |
| 15:58 | caroline | oh? did it work? |
| 15:58 | ashimema | ? |
| 16:00 | bug 22807 is now ready to test.. wouldn't mind a bit of your expertise in making the actual 'skip to main content' button look a bit nicer oleonard.. for some reason the styling of the alluded me | |
| 16:00 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22807 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Accessibility: Add 'Skip to Main Content' link |
| 16:01 | oleonard | Cool |
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| 16:29 | oleonard | kidclamp++ |
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| 17:24 | oleonard | Someone please check on did |
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| 17:27 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:35 | kohaputti | anyone else come across such issue with the test only working on the first time after running reset_all: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=11175#c64 ? |
| 17:35 | huginn | Bug 11175: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, joonas.kylmala, In Discussion , Show the parent record's component parts in the detailed views |
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| 17:36 | kohaputti | wondering if it could be related to those issues Joubu described where the tests stop working after ~30 runs |
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| 17:48 | caroline | who is did? |
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| 17:50 | oleonard | Didier Gautheron at biblibre |
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| 17:58 | caroline | juste sent them an email... we'll see... *shrugs* |
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| 18:12 | oleonard | ashimema still around? |
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| 18:50 | ashimema | Hi |
| 18:51 | oleonard | |
| 18:51 | wahanui | oleonard is seeing some buggy stuff though |
| 18:51 | oleonard | Yes wahanui that is perpetually true isn't it? |
| 18:51 | ashimema | Lol |
| 18:52 | oleonard | ashimema: I like the "skip" link on this page: https://webaim.org |
| 18:52 | What would you think about stealing that? | |
| 18:53 | ashimema | They're nice |
| 18:53 | I pretty much aimed to steal that.. just using some of bootstraps existing classes.. hence the sr- tags | |
| 18:54 | More than happy if we can get it closer to that | |
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| 18:55 | oleonard | Cool. |
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| 19:59 | * oleonard | wonders why we have empty <label> tags on the OPAC search results page |
| 20:00 | cait1 | that doesn't sound right |
| 20:00 | ? | |
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| 22:20 | caroline | cait1: still around? |
| 22:26 | cait1 | kind of :) |
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| 23:05 | * dcook | waves |
| 23:18 | oleonard | Hi dcook |
| 23:18 | dcook | Hola, oleonard! |
| 23:19 | I just sent out an email that might be of interest to you | |
| 23:20 | Are you familiar with the WRAPPER directive in Template::Toolkit? | |
| 23:21 | oleonard | No I hadn't noticed it before |
| 23:24 | Off the top of my head I think we aren't as consistent as we'd need to be to use WRAPPER, and I don't know if that's out of necessity or not | |
| 23:25 | I do know that my Bootstrap 4 work included a fair number of grid markup differences for different pages' particular needs | |
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