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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:00 | tuxayo | > between 12 and 8 tickets |
| 00:00 | oddly in my case, I found in bugzilla that few of those 12 have been considered for backport. Hence the interval. | |
| 00:01 | hayley | usually people don't say on the ticket unless they are backporting, I think it's a me thing to say 'not backporting' |
| 00:08 | tuxayo | In the case of Lucas they were also writing something in those case. |
| 00:08 | And I remember seeing that from others. Maybe you started a trend :P | |
| 00:11 | hayley | hehe perhaps! I guess it depends how much work you wanna do, regarding looking backwards |
| 00:18 | tuxayo | If I apply what I did but for 19.11.x: RMaint should start after bug 25531 in 20.05.x. |
| 00:18 | Which gives the following list of commits. | |
| 00:18 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25531 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to stable , Patron may not be debarred if backdated return |
| 00:18 | tuxayo | https://copycat.drycat.fr/?c1e[…]144HKZ46ZPrK19oA3 |
| 00:18 | Are you sure aleisha don't have at least on part of that to check for backporting? | |
| 00:18 | Unless in all those tickets, talljoy found none that was suitable for backport. | |
| 00:19 | It would be surprising. | |
| 00:21 | hayley | that's the thing, it's a lot more work if we have to go back and investigate like this so normally we just trust that the person on the version above has made the right decisions |
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| 00:33 | tuxayo | hayley: It's not about trust, it's about a divergence of start and stop point between two RMaints who aren't aware of this difference. |
| 00:33 | In the example of 19.11 it seems sure that there would be a gap in RMaint. Because the latest release on 19.11.x of Joy got release the 22th. | |
| 00:34 | After that not more backport from master because it now the work of the next team. (or maybe not until the release of 20.05, ambiguity here also) | |
| 00:34 | But master continued to get commits until may 29th. And only the 29th, 20.05.00 was created. | |
| 00:34 | So of aleisha only look after the 20.05.00 tag, 7 days of commit will not be inspected for eventual backporting. | |
| 00:35 | hayley | right, well in that case it's kind of on lukeG to make that gap up right? |
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| 00:35 | hayley | then you and aleisha cascade? |
| 00:38 | so lucas I am assuming will now look at master to see if there is anything important to backport, and then we go from there? | |
| 00:38 | tuxayo | > right, well in that case it's kind of on lukeG to make that gap up right? |
| 00:38 | Lucas's branch already has the commits IIUC | |
| 00:38 | https://copycat.drycat.fr/?c1e[…]144HKZ46ZPrK19oA3 | |
| 00:38 | hayley | ah I see what you mean |
| 00:41 | dcook | @later tell Joubu I did add more code with my more talk ;). Happy to talk about what I mean by the code being smaller, but too hard to do via huginn. |
| 00:41 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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| 01:16 | tuxayo | hayley: a solution would be to have in the RMaint handover process to explicitly handover "ye RMaint cursor" ^_^ |
| 01:17 | hayley | yes I agree tuxayo it would be good to have a process for that - the other thing to keep in mind is that none of these patches really NEED to be on these branches, it is maintenance after all! |
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| 01:19 | tuxayo | That can be compensated being more prudent about what's backported at the beginning of the cycle |
| 01:19 | (not knowing well the context(previous patches) and the usual gotchas of the branch) | |
| 01:21 | Because skipping them could not help due to the confusion in case of a bug whose dependency is in the gap. | |
| 01:21 | (Maybe it's far fetched ↑) | |
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| 01:38 | tuxayo | Also about a secondary problem: is there a more efficient choice on where to go at the end of one's RMaint cycle? |
| 01:38 | Or is it equivalent and we should let it float depending on the people and the moments: | |
| 01:38 | - until the latest point release of the RMaint | |
| 01:38 | - until the release of the next major version | |
| 01:38 | I would say the 2nd because it's easier to do a longer last RMaint month than a longer first month. | |
| 01:39 | Especially for beginners, but not only, everyone goes back a bit toward being a beginner on the first month on a branch. | |
| 01:39 | - | |
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| 01:39 | tuxayo | BTW Cursor still necessary, in both cases to not miss few patches of offset that can be between two branches, |
| 01:39 | because we can't backport an upstream patch only a few hours after it landed. | |
| 01:39 | And actually more than a cursor in necessary, to not drop the patches that touch strings that are waiting the next month. | |
| 01:39 | _ | |
| 01:39 | It's not about giving a lot attention to every patch. It about not missing a few of them on every cycle "by design" of the process. | |
| 01:40 | And on constant RMaint resources that means upping the bar on what to backport. | |
| 01:40 | That will allow to include the valuable patches in the current gaps. At the expense of leaving out the ones where there is hesitation today. | |
| 01:42 | Sorry for the essay... | |
| 01:43 | Everyone's opinion welcome so I can find a middle ground of these things to RMaint well and efficiently ^^ | |
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| 03:16 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #160: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D8/160/ |
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| 04:05 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #159: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D9/159/ |
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| 05:01 | TimothyAlexis | On staff mainpage.pl we have "Lists" and "Authorities" can these be turned off easily? |
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| 05:11 | dcook | TimothyAlexis: I think you can get rid of "Lists" all together by disabling "virtualshelves" |
| 05:11 | As for Authorities, are you talking about hiding the menu option or disabling it all together? | |
| 05:11 | I'd say the only way to just hide the option is with some Javascript (so not easily per se) | |
| 05:12 | TimothyAlexis | We are using neither of these. I could easily hide them from the menus, but if there is an "off" option somewhere, that would be convenient. |
| 05:15 | Those working with the Staff interface find it proper to have only buttons related to their daily work. | |
| 05:36 | I've hidden these from the menus. What do you think, should we add options for this? | |
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| 05:55 | mtj | hi tcohen, my dev server (aka docker3) had a hardware fail last nite... it will hopefully be back up in a few hours |
| 05:56 | * mtj | xrosses fingers |
| 06:00 | mtj | i'm very thankful that it decided to fail *after* the 20.05 release :0) |
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| 06:40 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:40 | wahanui | what's up, reiveune |
| 06:45 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 06:47 | magnuse | maybe we could have kept OpacMainUserBlock, with just a note explaining it has been moved to News? |
| 06:47 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 06:47 | wahanui | hola, alex_a |
| 06:47 | magnuse | ...and then removed it in 20.11, i meam |
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| 07:56 | kohaputti | ashimema, Joubu does debian 10 work for jenkins? |
| 07:56 | tried to ask tcohen already | |
| 07:58 | well it seems to have docker.io and java soo, guessing it works | |
| 08:01 | mtj | hi kohaputti, deb10 is fine :) |
| 08:01 | kohaputti | ok |
| 08:02 | ashimema | Morning #koha |
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| 09:13 | Joubu | @later tell tuxayo when you backport something you need to adjust the "Version(s) released in:" field on bugzilla |
| 09:13 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 10:55 | oleonard | Hi all |
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| 11:18 | tcohen | morning |
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| 11:29 | * kidclamp | waves |
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| 11:50 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 12:16 | ashimema | Tuxayo, try using koha-push from the release tools.. I could help with the bugzilla management side of rmaint |
| 12:21 | Joubu | well, it needs to be configured first! |
| 12:24 | kohaputti | oh no, the mailing list is filled with these same opac/intranet permissions issues, I wonder if everybody joins the list now to tell about this issue and don't know it has been answered there already |
| 12:24 | Joubu | I answered already |
| 12:24 | at least twice I think | |
| 12:25 | cait | i guess we will keep doing that until it's fixed |
| 12:26 | Joubu | I will reply to Victor and more generaly on the release announcement |
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| 13:51 | pastebot | Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "tcohen: added new tests in t/mojo/json.t - they all pass" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/22120 |
| 13:52 | tcohen | ? |
| 13:54 | Joubu | it's me |
| 13:54 | tcohen | I know |
| 13:54 | I'm puzzled | |
| 13:54 | Joubu | e+19 or e+25 are always displayed in non scientic format |
| 13:55 | tcohen | so it is us? |
| 13:55 | or maybe the Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI chain | |
| 13:57 | ah | |
| 13:58 | Joubu | use Mojo::JSON; |
| 13:58 | my $v = '{"unit_price": 64342152748241616073212398}'; | |
| 13:58 | my $d = Mojo::JSON::decode_json($v); | |
| 13:58 | say $d->{unit_price}; | |
| 13:58 | displays 6.43421527482416e+25 | |
| 13:59 | and | |
| 13:59 | use Mojo::JSON; | |
| 13:59 | my $v = '{"unit_price": 10177559957753600000}'; | |
| 13:59 | my $d = Mojo::JSON::decode_json($v); | |
| 13:59 | say $d->{unit_price}; | |
| 13:59 | displays 10177559957753600000 | |
| 13:59 | and I just want to cry | |
| 13:59 | and I give up | |
| 14:01 | ha but... that's not the same Mojo version | |
| 14:01 | the json.t is coming from their git repo | |
| 14:01 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U20 build #12: FAILURE in 2 min 48 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U20/12/ |
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| 14:18 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 25638: Make the tests pass - ignoring the actual issue <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2af891507018009ac> |
| 14:20 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #320: FAILURE in 2 min 37 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/320/ |
| 14:21 | tcohen | Joubu I need to momentarily disable Dcoker_4 |
| 14:22 | Joubu | @later tell mtj can you have a look at 25692 please? |
| 14:22 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 14:44 | tuxayo | ashimema: «Tuxayo, try using koha-push from the release tools.. I could help with the bugzilla management side of rmaint» |
| 14:45 | Ok, somehow I forgot about koha-push | |
| 14:46 | I'll see what is missing in the already backported patches | |
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| 14:56 | tuxayo | Wiki page "Release_maintenance" |
| 14:56 | «add the specific release version to for which the bug will be released» | |
| 14:56 | Ok, this is in advance! | |
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| 15:06 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 15:06 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 15:07 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1363: FIXED in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1363/ |
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| 15:43 | eythian | https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/[…]y-almost-40-late/ |
| 15:47 | tuxayo | > The maximum fine for a late return is €5. If there had been no limit the fine would have been €1530,75, the library said. |
| 15:47 | he he | |
| 15:48 | That would be a lot of calendar calculations in Koha | |
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| 15:58 | caroline | When there is this in the xslt |
| 15:58 | <xsl:attribute name="class">subject</xsl:attribute> | |
| 15:58 | the "subject" part is the html class right? | |
| 15:59 | it should not be translated? | |
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| 16:07 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:18 | tuxayo | cait: around? |
| 16:35 | caroline | any translators around? |
| 16:47 | oleonard | caroline that's my understanding. Are you finding that it's not the way it works? |
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| 16:51 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 16:51 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 16:53 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 16:53 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 16:53 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #321: FIXED in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/321/ |
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| 17:27 | gary | Has anyone deployed on GCP? |
| 17:29 | @chris_n | |
| 17:29 | huginn | gary: downloading the Perl source |
| 17:29 | tuxayo | gary: Google Cloud Platform? |
| 17:29 | gary | Yes |
| 17:30 | Google Cloud or any public cloud | |
| 17:31 | tuxayo | gary: What do you mean by cloud? A PAAS for Perl? |
| 17:31 | gary | A cloud hosted linux VM or container |
| 17:32 | tuxayo | > linux VM or container |
| 17:32 | That looks more flexible. With root access right? | |
| 17:32 | gary | Yes |
| 17:32 | caroline | oleonard: it's just that "subject" was on Pootle to be translated... But if it's a class, it shouldn't be translated otherwise the css will be messed up |
| 17:33 | tuxayo | gary: If it runs Debian or Ubuntu it should be no different than how the vast majority of people install and manage Koha. |
| 17:33 | oleonard | caroline: What line of what file? |
| 17:33 | caroline | hm, let me go back and find it |
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| 17:38 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 17:38 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 18:24 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 18:24 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 18:38 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 18:38 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 18:38 | Marie-Luce | Hi everyone |
| 18:39 | oleonard | Hi Marie-Luce |
| 18:39 | Marie-Luce | is there a way to upload a pdf in Koha and add a link to the pdf in the Staff interface News? |
| 18:40 | Hi oleonard | |
| 18:40 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 18:40 | Marie-Luce | Hi wahanui |
| 18:45 | wizzycray | koha-list needs a --enabled --z3950responder |
| 18:45 | i'll file a bug :P | |
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| 18:51 | oleonard | Marie-Luce the "Upload" tool under Tools might work for you |
| 18:57 | Marie-Luce | good thinking. |
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