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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:01 | dcook | Oops forgot to check back here |
| 00:02 | Well with the WRAPPER we could standardize the headers and footers more at least. The individual page content could then be handled within the individual templates | |
| 00:02 | Since the OPAC is smaller than the Staff Client, I figure it's the best target for improvements heh | |
| 00:03 | I loved tcohen's burn earlier... | |
| 00:03 | We could improve consistency :D | |
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| 00:03 | dcook | Might just go on my infinite TODO list for now though |
| 00:10 | oleonard | At least wait until after my Bootstrap 4 branch is pushed :) |
| 00:25 | dcook | Hehe. Easy! |
| 00:25 | I have so many things I'd like to do O_O | |
| 00:26 | For now, I think I'm going to focus most on API and plugin infrastructure though | |
| 00:26 | Really keen to move lots of our local customizations into plugins | |
| 00:26 | (But need better plugin infrastructure for managing plugins at a large scale and preventing end users from breaking things) | |
| 00:27 | Oh and adding a message queue to Koha... I've already implemented that one locally, but it would be good to find an upstream community-based solution | |
| 00:28 | Oh and making a pluggable authentication system (I actually have most of that done locally too...) | |
| 00:28 | :| | |
| 00:37 | oleonard | You always have big ambitions dcook :D |
| 00:42 | dcook | Hehe. Well when you put it that way... |
| 00:42 | It's all doable though O_O | |
| 00:43 | And the thing that blows my mind is... if we make these changes to the core Koha system, and handle more localizations via plugins... it might make it easier to do more community work | |
| 00:43 | Trying to follow my own logic there... | |
| 00:44 | * oleonard | would like to see every feature that depends on 3rd-party services (Amazon, Google, etc) moved to plugins |
| 00:44 | dcook | Mmm that would be great |
| 00:45 | I think I can get buy-in from my boss to work on the plugin system, if it means that it makes life easier for us in the long-term | |
| 00:46 | If we had more local or third-party code in plugins, then it would be easier to do upgrades... | |
| 00:46 | And easier to differentiate code that makes sense to be in a plugin vs code that should be upstreamed | |
| 00:46 | Of course, I don't have time today to work on any of these things heh | |
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| 04:41 | aleisha | hello |
| 04:41 | wahanui | bonjour, aleisha |
| 04:50 | TimothyAlexis | peace be with you my friend |
| 04:51 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 04:51 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 04:51 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #162: FIXED in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D8/162/ |
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| 04:57 | aleisha | yay |
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| 05:11 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #161: STILL UNSTABLE in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.11_U18/161/ |
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| 05:36 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #163: UNSTABLE in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D8/163/ |
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| 05:43 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 05:43 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 05:43 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #161: FIXED in 1 hr 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D9/161/ |
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| 06:00 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #162: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.11_U18/162/ |
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| 06:02 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:51 | * ashimema | is in a really happy place today.. soo good to see the accessibility bugs suddenly taking off. |
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| 06:51 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 06:54 | ashimema | dcook still here? |
| 06:54 | dcook | sure am |
| 06:54 | Finding lots of bugs and trying to fix them all in a mad dash to the end of day | |
| 06:55 | ashimema | I added an item the the dev meeting agenda to create a template template for OPAC pages to try and improve consistency.. you jumped on WRAPPER at about the same time as I though.. it would be great to use that instead of some of our includes :) |
| 06:56 | I like coming in in the morning and seeing the backtalk.. great to see what you're up to :) | |
| 06:56 | I'm on board with pretty much everything you've said of late :) | |
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| 06:56 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #162: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 13 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D9/162/ |
| 07:00 | dcook | <3 just on phone but back soon |
| 07:09 | did | hi, my apologies for yesterday connect/disconnect noise, computer suspended , disconnect, error in suspend , wake up and reconnect, rince repeat... |
| 07:09 | ashimema | haha.. it happens |
| 07:09 | no worries did | |
| 07:11 | did | who has admin right on koha dev list? I get admin emails but no acces? dcook: has mails to big in the queue. |
| 07:11 | ashimema | @later tell oleonard Any chance you could help me shed some light on the styling getting applied on bug 25151 later? |
| 07:11 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:12 | ashimema | erm.. i thought it was a biblibre one so would have asked you did ;) |
| 07:12 | dcook | Oh man, way to call me out on verbosity lol |
| 07:13 | I wonder if it's my email crypto sig.. | |
| 07:14 | Wish I could turn it off but it's done by the mail server :| | |
| 07:17 | did | dcook: 55k and 60k too big > 40k |
| 07:17 | dcook | Hmm weird |
| 07:17 | I wonder why they're that big.. | |
| 07:17 | Should be < 1k | |
| 07:19 | ashimema | yowsers.. that's some big email |
| 07:24 | did | dcook: I think a reply with many mails quoted in both txt and html . |
| 07:50 | dcook | Yeah that must be it |
| 07:50 | I'm probably not saying much anyone but ashimema wants to hear anyway :p | |
| 07:50 | ashimema | lol |
| 07:51 | * dcook | finishes yet another email that he actually started 8 hours ago |
| 07:52 | dcook | Hmm the email that I got is still only 525KB with all those threaded replies... *shrugs* |
| 07:52 | Wait.. | |
| 07:52 | Too big is > 40k | |
| 07:52 | Ohh 525KB is the thread in my inbox.. | |
| 07:53 | Chris sent one that I received that was 80KB... but I guess I could've just got it because it was CCed to me.. | |
| 07:53 | ashimema: Just reading your earlier messages now. A template template would be great :D. | |
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| 07:55 | dcook | I mean even if we just started using WRAPPER for *new* templates adn then slowly refactored old ones... |
| 07:55 | hola andreashm! | |
| 07:56 | andreashm | hey dcook! |
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| 07:57 | * ashimema | is bemused by some of the requirements for accessability :( |
| 07:58 | dcook | accessibility is a hard one O_O |
| 07:58 | I should run. It's been a looooong day. | |
| 07:58 | ciao folks | |
| 07:58 | ashimema | night night |
| 07:59 | dcook | Oh and ashimema, I've been making a list of things I want to work on, and I think I'm up to 7 big things at the moment... heh somehow I'll try to do all of them O_O |
| 07:59 | andreashm | dcook: working late? |
| 08:00 | * andreashm | waves at dcook on his way out |
| 08:01 | andreashm | dcook: (if you're still around) keep up the good work with 10662. I haven't had time to comment, but locks promising that there is progress! |
| 08:02 | ashimema | anyone with an eye on accessibility here? |
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| 08:10 | Joubu | ashimema: what is the question |
| 08:10 | wahanui | i guess the question is a bit general |
| 08:11 | Joubu | btw have you seen the pdf file I uploaded last year about Koha accessibility? |
| 08:11 | it's should be on bugzilla | |
| 08:12 | ashimema | nope |
| 08:12 | oh | |
| 08:12 | do you mean 23003 | |
| 08:12 | Joubu | bug 23003 |
| 08:12 | yes | |
| 08:12 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23003 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Accessibility improvements |
| 08:12 | ashimema | yes.. I've been attaching bugs to that as a collector |
| 08:13 | Joubu | the last link in the description |
| 08:13 | well it's in French, but you read French isn't it? ;) | |
| 08:13 | ashimema | I have a 158 page report from a customer I'm working through already |
| 08:14 | Joubu | aware of tanaguru? |
| 08:16 | ashimema | hadn't heard of tanaguru before.. looks interesting |
| 08:16 | Joubu | lol |
| 08:18 | ashimema | there are soooo many blooming accessibility tools.. often reporting marginally different things.. makes it very hard to be compliant |
| 08:20 | Joubu | Koha gets a quite good score, but a 'C' is given for: |
| 08:20 | 1. the "skip links" - https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Skip_link | |
| 08:20 | 2. No search autocomplete | |
| 08:20 | 3. Button to place a hold on | |
| 08:20 | * ashimema | has added skip links ;) |
| 08:20 | Joubu | that's basically what is considered "super wrong" by the report |
| 08:20 | ashimema | that was the top priority |
| 08:20 | the other one we're getting very wrong is the calendar datepicker aparently | |
| 08:21 | Joubu | why? |
| 08:21 | ashimema | this 158 page report gives allot more issues |
| 08:21 | huge numbers of headings in the wrong order which I'm currently working through | |
| 08:21 | though... in many cases I'm not sure I agree with the findings | |
| 08:22 | Joubu | why is the datepicker wrong? |
| 08:23 | ashimema | let me find the relevant page in the report |
| 08:23 | basically it's not keyboard navigable is the summary | |
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| 08:44 | davidnind | ashimema: if you haven't across it before, WebAim's WAVE toolbar is really good https://wave.webaim.org/ |
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| 09:06 | Joubu | @later tell tuxayo 24881 is messy sorry about that. Basically we don't want the dt_from_string call, nowhere. It caused some tests to fail, sometimes. To prevent that I replaced all the occurrences with a $now var defined at the top. First I wanted to test on 19.05 (that's why a first patch was pushed there), then wrote a patch for master (which modifies more occurrences). This second one was backported and |
| 09:06 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:07 | Joubu | in now in your 19.05 queue. It comes as an addition of the one you have already into 19.05. |
| 09:07 | @later tell tuxayo in now in your 19.05 queue. It comes as an addition of the one you have already into 19.05. | |
| 09:07 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:07 | Joubu | is.. |
| 09:10 | ashimema | lol |
| 09:17 | anyone know why the logo is an H1 heading on the OPAC? | |
| 09:17 | Joubu | magnuse: do you think you will find time to test the patch attached on bug 24986? |
| 09:17 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24986 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Maximum row size reached soon for borrowers and deletedborrowers |
| 09:18 | ashimema | seems a bit odd and means that we should never use H1 in anything other than that one place |
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| 09:23 | Joubu | ashimema: coming from f4c0b2f80d1f511cf995768aef4f0e1ac8a40d5f then copy/pasted |
| 09:23 | so, no good reason | |
| 09:23 | ashimema | aha.. ok |
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| 09:23 | ashimema | fun |
| 09:24 | we could drop it.. | |
| 09:25 | either way I'm on a mission to work through every page in the OPAC to get the heading nestings semantically correct.. be it whether they all start at level 2 or we drop the nav one and they all start at level 3 I'm not especially attached to either case | |
| 09:26 | Joubu | ashimema: are you already writing code? |
| 09:26 | ashimema | yup |
| 09:26 | Joubu | I'd love to see a RFC posted on the ML |
| 09:27 | to get feedback, and make sure we all agree | |
| 09:27 | ashimema | but I'm also bearing in mind that I am required to backport the entire lot to 19.11 for the customer |
| 09:27 | and that I need to basically resolve all the reported issues in their report.. | |
| 09:27 | all before August :( | |
| 09:28 | Joubu | could we at least get an overview of what you are planning to do? |
| 09:28 | apart from "fixing the accessibility" :) | |
| 09:28 | ashimema | I'm adding bugs in a tree against bug 23003 |
| 09:28 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23003 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Accessibility improvements |
| 09:29 | ashimema | it's a slow process.. reading all 258 pages of the report and converting each failure point into one or multiple bugs ;) |
| 09:29 | Joubu | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]raph.cgi?id=23003 |
| 09:29 | ok | |
| 09:30 | hard to see how big are the changes you are going to make | |
| 09:31 | ashimema | small ones |
| 09:31 | just lots of them | |
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| 09:59 | dcook | andreashm: Yep, I was working late, and now I'm being a nerd and popped back on to work on plugins |
| 09:59 | And thanks :) | |
| 09:59 | andreashm | =) |
| 10:00 | dcook | If you don't mind me asking, what have you been doing in the meantime? |
| 10:00 | Custom script to import form LIBRIS? | |
| 10:00 | Staged MARC Files? | |
| 10:01 | andreashm | Staged MARC Files before. Now using a now export method that LIBRIS supports. (http api on our end, OAI serverside on their end) |
| 10:01 | Might change that to a bookmarklet/"magic button" type solution. | |
| 10:02 | dcook | Hmm I'm not sure that I follow |
| 10:03 | Sounds like you have a script that pulls OAI-PMH from the LIBRIS OAI-PMH server, and then use the Koha HTTP API? | |
| 10:04 | andreashm | Currently we send a http request with a timestamp, and get changed after that. So we only see the http side. Then we have a small import script that imports to Koha (plus some added stuff like write-saved fields) |
| 10:04 | The OAI stuff is all on LIBRIS end, we don't get exposed to that | |
| 10:04 | dcook | Ahh I think I follow |
| 10:05 | andreashm | (I think they still use OAI for that. Might be their REST API though. Don't know) |
| 10:05 | dcook | Sounds interesting |
| 10:05 | My first goal is to get the koha-plugin-oaipmh-import working, which would let any (authenticated) program send OAI-PMH encapsulated records to Koha | |
| 10:05 | andreashm | It's a solution that works very well. |
| 10:06 | (But were still looking at potentially changing it, hha) | |
| 10:06 | dcook | That's good! |
| 10:06 | Ahhh | |
| 10:06 | heh | |
| 10:06 | I'm optimistic about the plugins | |
| 10:06 | At the moment, I'm doing these ones on my own time | |
| 10:06 | But I'm hoping to find work hours to improve the plugin system overall | |
| 10:07 | And then that might help me find more work hours to work on plugins too | |
| 10:07 | Like we'd use koha-plugin-oaipmh-import locally for importing Dspace records into Koha | |
| 10:07 | Eating our own dogfood so to speak... | |
| 10:07 | andreashm | hehe |
| 10:08 | Improving the plugin system overall sounds good. | |
| 10:08 | dcook | Yeah my main goal is to allow vendors to disable library administrators from uploading their own plugins, and to make it easier for vendors to install plugins at scale |
| 10:09 | andreashm | There has been some discussion in Sweden about the maintainability (is that correct English?) of plugins |
| 10:09 | dcook | I'm hoping to create a number of plugins based on local customizations, and I want to be able to install that plugin across like 80 Koha installations at 1 time |
| 10:09 | I think maintainability would be the right word | |
| 10:09 | It's a reasonable discussion to have | |
| 10:10 | For my "work plugins", we probably won't publish those beyond our company (depending on the plugin). But my personal plugins I'll put on Github, and my hope is that other people use them and contribute to them | |
| 10:11 | I've worked on Koha for 8.5 years now and don't have any plans to change that any time soon, but if I did move on, my plugins would be out in the open, so someone else could fork it and take it over | |
| 10:12 | andreashm | Yeah. |
| 10:12 | dcook | If people like koha-plugin-oaipmh-import, I might try to do patches for master, and then create a plugin version with a "migrate" method, so that people could move their data across seamlessly |
| 10:12 | andreashm | But there also translatability.' |
| 10:12 | dcook | I sent out an email about translatability but haven't heard back :( |
| 10:12 | andreashm | And some are worried about plugins, that will stop working with new releases. |
| 10:13 | dcook | That's a good point too. |
| 10:13 | That's why I'm more inclined to have vendors install the plugins, rather than having librarians installing them | |
| 10:14 | And for people without vendors... whoever their IT staff are, although I guess they might be reluctant to do something Koha specific.. | |
| 10:16 | Of course, plugin developers could be more responsible with their plugin metadata | |
| 10:16 | I think we often have maximum version marked as undefined, but perhaps we should have it pegged at the latest version we've actually tested against | |
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| 10:42 | cait | dcook: didn't read back but I know tcohen worked out somethig for translating plugins |
| 10:42 | dcook | Oooh interesting |
| 10:42 | cait | dcook: also the new way we use .mo files for translations of JavaScript could be interesting |
| 10:42 | dcook: it pull stranslations on the fly from the .mo... so no need to run scripts copying plugin files around | |
| 10:42 | dcook | Hmm I'm not familiar with that but sounds interesting |
| 10:42 | cait | and people could just add their po/mo files to add a new translations |
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| 10:43 | dcook | Where would they add them? |
| 10:43 | cait | looks at I18N.pm and how it'sused, it hink it's all in there |
| 10:43 | dcook | When does it pull them in? |
| 10:43 | cait | i tihnk they should be part of the plugn code |
| 10:43 | dcook | Hmm |
| 10:44 | cait | well of the plugin 'package' |
| 10:44 | jajm would also know more | |
| 10:45 | bug 15395 | |
| 10:45 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, Internationalization: plural forms, context, and more |
| 10:45 | dcook | Looks really badly documented, but I think I follow the code |
| 10:45 | cait | it's not badly documented, look at the wiki |
| 10:45 | dcook | Reminds me of Java |
| 10:45 | Oh I mean the I18N.pm module itself heh | |
| 10:46 | I18N.t and I18N.tx for instance are not intuitive at all and there are no code comments | |
| 10:46 | cait | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ext,_and_more_RFC |
| 10:46 | they are only wrappers | |
| 10:46 | dcook | The Wiki doesn't really seem like the best place to put documentation to me? |
| 10:47 | But I like what I'm seeing overall | |
| 10:47 | I've been wanting something like this for so many years | |
| 10:47 | Although I'm not 100% sure how it will work.. | |
| 10:48 | Like I'm not seeing how it knows what po files to use.. | |
| 10:49 | cait | _base_directory |
| 10:49 | jajm | dcook, it uses misc/translator/po/xx_XX/LC_MESSAGES/Koha.mo |
| 10:49 | cait | oh thanks jajm is here :) |
| 10:49 | jajm: i was suggesting to use osmething like it for makig plugins translatable | |
| 10:49 | * dcook | scratches his head |
| 10:49 | cait | ship them with mo files |
| 10:49 | dcook | I'm still not sure I follow |
| 10:49 | cait | so it woudl need to know where to look for plugins i guess |
| 10:50 | dcook | I don't see a misc/translator/po/xx_XX/LC_MESSAGES/Koha.mo file? |
| 10:50 | cait | it's generated when you translate a language |
| 10:50 | well, install it | |
| 10:50 | jajm | cait, i thought about plugins while writing bug 15395, but didn't figure how to do it properly |
| 10:50 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, Internationalization: plural forms, context, and more |
| 10:50 | cait | i still believe this is the way to go |
| 10:50 | dcook | Yeah, I think cait is onto the right thing |
| 10:50 | cait | we don't want to keep copying template files for plugins |
| 10:51 | dcook | It doesn't make sense |
| 10:51 | cait | and we need separate files so we can ship with translations |
| 10:51 | dcook | People should be able to send pull requests with translatoin files for a plugin |
| 10:51 | cait | ye |
| 10:51 | s | |
| 10:51 | dcook | And yeah in the plugin just use a msgid so that you're sourcing the right strings |
| 10:52 | cait | i've always been sad that this is not something that was added form the start for plugins |
| 10:52 | dcook | DSpace does that quite well |
| 10:52 | jajm | cait, not having to copy template for koha "core" would great too :) |
| 10:52 | dcook | ^ |
| 10:52 | cait | it's quite limiting, as you need to fork now to translate - and it will be 'mono-lingual' |
| 10:52 | jajm: let's start small ;) | |
| 10:52 | dcook | For now, I'll probably just do my plugins in English, but I know folk do want to be able to translate them |
| 10:53 | cait | dcook: i believe we still have the english strings visible, which is helpful for translaitons, |
| 10:53 | dcook | I wonder about putting in some kind of placeholder.. |
| 10:53 | jajm | dcook, omeka S could be used as inspiration too https://omeka.org/s/docs/devel[…]rnationalization/ |
| 10:54 | ideally we want to be able to search .mo files in multiple folders, i don't know if this is possible right now | |
| 10:56 | dcook | Something that needs work it seems |
| 10:56 | I'll keep that in mind | |
| 10:56 | Nice to know about this... I'll add it onto my growing list of things to work on | |
| 10:56 | Joubu | plugins are already translatable |
| 10:56 | dcook | Joubu: Tell me more? |
| 10:56 | Or point me at an example and I'll be happy to use that | |
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| 10:57 | Joubu | tcohen implement it in one of his plugin |
| 10:57 | implemented | |
| 10:57 | he advertised it on the ML iirc | |
| 10:58 | dcook | Hmm must've been a long time ago, as I don't recall |
| 10:58 | I'll scan his repo | |
| 10:59 | Joubu | koha-plugin-pay-via-paypal |
| 11:00 | Koha/Plugin/Com/Theke/PayViaPayPal/i18n/ | |
| 11:00 | dcook | Ah interesting I was looking in Github but it was in Gitlab |
| 11:00 | Interesting | |
| 11:01 | Cool. Works for me. | |
| 11:01 | Cheers, Joubu | |
| 11:01 | Joubu++ | |
| 11:02 | cait | Joubu: i've ben tryint to get him to document that better for ages |
| 11:02 | noone knows about it | |
| 11:03 | dcook | I was thinking of doing my own translations along similar lines, but happy to copy this method and make it more stnadardized |
| 11:07 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 11:11 | dcook | heya oleonard |
| 11:11 | wahanui | oleonard is probably happy for ashimema to write the release script |
| 11:11 | ashimema | lol |
| 11:12 | we never did deprecate non-xslt did we :( | |
| 11:13 | tuxayo | Thanks Joubu :) |
| 11:14 | dcook | ashimema: probably not |
| 11:14 | Well maybe deprecate but not remove? | |
| 11:14 | space not time | |
| 11:14 | Actually I don't know what we're talking about | |
| 11:14 | ashimema | lol |
| 11:15 | dcook | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp0vr1n25u4 |
| 11:15 | space and time is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp0vr1n25u4 | |
| 11:15 | Hmm.. | |
| 11:15 | space and time? | |
| 11:15 | wahanui | space and time is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp0vr1n25u4 |
| 11:15 | dcook | Excellent |
| 11:15 | wahanui | darn tootin' it is. |
| 11:17 | cait | ashimema: we deprecated it yes |
| 11:17 | look at the codig guidelnes | |
| 11:17 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]plates_deprecated | |
| 11:18 | and we have been workig towards removal last release | |
| 11:18 | there are some ramaining things that don#t work with XSLT | |
| 11:18 | oleonard worked on one of them at least - oleonard++ | |
| 11:18 | and it believe we removed result listones? | |
| 11:19 | bug 12561 | |
| 11:19 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12561 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Omnibus: Deprecate non-XSLT detail and result views |
| 11:19 | * ashimema | should work on that |
| 11:20 | cait | actually it looks like it's removed fully from staff, but still a bit blocked for opac |
| 11:21 | ashimema | yeah |
| 11:21 | be nice to finish that | |
| 11:21 | cait | yep |
| 11:21 | but the way is paved for removal :) | |
| 11:22 | we just never finished | |
| 11:22 | ashimema | :) |
| 11:22 | * ashimema | is a little confused as to why/how we're using headings tags in the record details display |
| 11:23 | oleonard | It's the wild west out there ashimema |
| 11:23 | ashimema | I wouldn't really say 'author' or 'contributor' should be headings at all |
| 11:23 | maybe styled as important somehow.. but semantically they're really not headings at all are they? | |
| 11:24 | or am I totally not undertstanding the semantic point of the headings tags in the html spec | |
| 11:24 | that could well be the case | |
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| 11:32 | oleonard | ashimema: Nobody has been strict about heading tag usage, so you can assume that decisions were not made strategically. |
| 11:32 | ashimema | lol |
| 11:32 | I'll say | |
| 11:33 | cait | I wonder if we sould have this kin of thing in a style guide for templates |
| 11:33 | ashimema | we definitely should |
| 11:33 | cait | i recently changed/standardized in patron accoutn too (hopefully correctly, not sure now) |
| 11:33 | ashimema | and a template for template going forward |
| 11:33 | cait | oleonard: i think you started something a while ago, was also wondering about use of icons, and buttons... and stuff |
| 11:33 | ashimema | Feel free to add more discussion points to the dev meeting agend.. please do infact |
| 11:34 | right.. soo | |
| 11:34 | oleonard.. bootstrap classes wise | |
| 11:35 | if I want to replace the bad semantics of the details display for authors.. | |
| 11:36 | any preference between `<span class="results_summary author lead">` and `<span class="results_summary author h3>` | |
| 11:36 | I think both may need a little tweeking in the css itself :( | |
| 11:36 | oleonard | putting "h3" in the class doesn't feel right at all |
| 11:37 | cait | agree |
| 11:37 | ashimema | yeah.. I thought that too |
| 11:37 | cait | which page is this? |
| 11:37 | ashimema | but it's valid in bootstrap3 |
| 11:37 | opac-detail | |
| 11:37 | it's actually in the xslt | |
| 11:37 | cait | is b4 the next one we are aiming for? |
| 11:37 | oleonard | Yes |
| 11:38 | cait | trying to catch up with things :) |
| 11:38 | ashimema | so we agree `lead` feels right |
| 11:39 | hmm.. suppose I best fix the bottom margin issues that causes at the local css level then | |
| 11:39 | oleonard | Are you saying the "h3" is in the xslt? |
| 11:39 | ashimema | yup |
| 11:40 | oleonard | I don't see it |
| 11:40 | ashimema | MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl |
| 11:41 | <!-- Author Statement: Alternate Graphic Representation (MARC 880) --> | |
| 11:42 | and the other 'showAuthor' block waay below | |
| 11:42 | adding `h3` in as a class actually looks pretty nice | |
| 11:42 | oleonard | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]319b72906;hb=HEAD |
| 11:43 | ashimema | ah sorry.. |
| 11:43 | it's originally h5 | |
| 11:43 | not h3 | |
| 11:43 | but I was correcting it semantically to h3.. | |
| 11:44 | then decided h3 was wrong too.. because semantically what it contains really isn't a heading at all.. it's a label | |
| 11:44 | cait | ashimema: can you take 5 mins to pass 25507 for me? ;) |
| 11:45 | ashimema | yup |
| 11:45 | let me just submit this code then I'll take a look | |
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| 11:47 | cait | thx, it's really an easy fix |
| 11:48 | tcohen | morning |
| 11:48 | cait | morning tcohen |
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| 11:54 | cait | ashimema++ thank you |
| 11:55 | ashimema | no worries cait.. |
| 11:55 | pleasure.. it allowed me to knock you off top spot for the QA ranking this month now | |
| 11:55 | challenge laid down :P | |
| 11:55 | cait | heh keep refreshing ;) |
| 11:55 | ashimema | nooo |
| 11:55 | cheeky bugger ;) | |
| 11:56 | cait | there are also some that i can't do because signef off on |
| 11:56 | like bug 25553 | |
| 11:56 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25553 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Edit item date sort does not sort correctly |
| 11:56 | cait | or 11994 |
| 11:56 | ashimema | yeah.. I'll be back on QA soon |
| 11:56 | bug 11994 | |
| 11:56 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11994 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Fix OpenSearch discovery in the OPAC |
| 11:56 | cait | just putting it into this channel :) |
| 11:56 | ashimema | :) |
| 11:56 | cait | oh actualy it's nt true fo rhte second one |
| 11:56 | david has signed off | |
| 11:57 | going to work on that ow | |
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| 11:57 | ashimema | there's a few hopefully non-contentious ones in here now 😉 https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]raph.cgi?id=23003 |
| 11:57 | cait | ah ok, i put patcheson it... stlil needhelp there then |
| 11:57 | ashimema | bug 22807 will be a really nice addition to Koha |
| 11:57 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22807 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Accessibility: Add 'Skip to Main Content' link |
| 11:59 | * oleonard | already has those changes added to a Bootstrap 4 branch FYI |
| 11:59 | ashimema | awesome oleonard |
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| 12:03 | cait | I am all for removing the NotesBlacklist pref |
| 12:03 | but i am a bit concerned about the new name | |
| 12:03 | NotesDenylist | |
| 12:04 | hm actually on... i guess i read it wrong, denylist is one word, right? | |
| 12:04 | oleonard | A made-up single word |
| 12:05 | cait | i'd probably have gone with somthin glike OpacNotestoHide or so |
| 12:05 | oleonard | I like that |
| 12:06 | cait | kidclamp: around maybe? |
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| 12:12 | kidclamp | yeah, I amopen to anything for the name |
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| 12:13 | cait | kidclamp: commented on the bug meanwhile, do you want to have quick look? |
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| 12:25 | kidclamp | cait: alternate proposal - this syspref is dumb |
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| 12:25 | kidclamp | hiding the field in the framework hides it on the note tab |
| 12:29 | AndrewFH | but managing it through frameworks would require one to change it in all frameworks one is using, though, right? whereas the syspref gives you one place to change it universally? |
| 12:29 | (have never really looked at or thought about this syspref, so I'm just thinkin' aloud) | |
| 12:30 | kidclamp | *sigh* sure - but that sounds like an issue with the frameworks editor beign hard to use. Having two ways to do things is...not good? The pref itself says "For hiding fields from other pages like the normal view, use the visibility settings for subfields in the MARC bibliographic frameworks section of the administration module." |
| 12:30 | I am making wild assumption here that they didn't affect this tab at some point | |
| 12:31 | ah, it doesn't work on the staff side | |
| 12:31 | * oleonard | wonders why the pref isn't listed here https://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences |
| 12:32 | cait | kidclamp: there is another reason - some notes show in the xslt |
| 12:32 | the denylist helps avoid double up | |
| 12:32 | 502 for example | |
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| 12:33 | cait | oleonard: because the content is hard to compare, we could only do set / not set maybe |
| 12:33 | we definitely use it for the reason above | |
| 12:33 | 520 is another example | |
| 12:34 | the libraries complained they don#t want to see it in the normal view AND on the tab | |
| 12:34 | * cait | glares a little at Joubu for capitalization |
| 12:34 | cait | you all get glared at this release for capitalization and terminology |
| 12:34 | just keep fixing things is boring :) | |
| 12:35 | q | |
| 12:37 | kidclamp | I see your point cait, my nit liking it is outweighed by my laziness, will update the name when I can |
| 12:38 | cait | i'll try to add a comment ot that later |
| 12:39 | dcook | Ahh I'm running into the external koha plugin metadata thing... |
| 12:39 | where did that get stored.. | |
| 12:40 | Oh maybe it's just the plugin_methods table.. | |
| 12:40 | kidclamp | *cough* bug 25549 *cough* |
| 12:40 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25549 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Install plugin script/method should remove broken plugins |
| 12:40 | oleonard | ashimema still around? |
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| 12:44 | cait | y |
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| 12:44 | ashimema | Hi |
| 12:44 | wahanui | salut, ashimema |
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| 12:44 | ashimema | Just lunching.. but around |
| 12:45 | dcook | kidclamp: I'll make a note to look at that again when it's not super late at night heh |
| 12:45 | oleonard | No, rush ashimema, I just wanted to comment about Bug 25237... the "h3" class isn't in the particular compilation of Bootstrap 3 we use |
| 12:45 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25237 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Accessibility: The 'Author details' in the full record display contains semantically incorrect headings |
| 12:45 | dcook | Ugh, this OpenAPI plugin is... interesting.. |
| 12:45 | Parameters marked as not required but it's requiring them anyway :S | |
| 12:46 | Ohd erp | |
| 12:46 | My fault | |
| 12:46 | * dcook | should blame himself more often heh |
| 12:46 | oleonard | ashimema: I think we can just drop the h3 class, but maybe you'd prefer to replace it with something else. We can target .results_summary.author in the CSS |
| 12:47 | cait | hm is this something we shoud lworry about? |
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| 12:47 | * dcook | twitches |
| 12:47 | dcook | Or maybe it is the OpenAPI plugin after all.. |
| 12:47 | ashimema | I had a feeling something like that might bite me |
| 12:47 | interestingly.. I thought it had had an effect though | |
| 12:48 | I was still aiming to replace it with 'lead' or something different altogether | |
| 12:48 | though, as you say.. we can target it directly anyway | |
| 12:48 | I'm happy to be guided with regards to how we end up styling it | |
| 12:49 | oleonard | Sure |
| 12:49 | ashimema | :) |
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| 12:50 | ashimema | I'm heading out for a quick walk before I attack bug 25240 |
| 12:50 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25240 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Accessibility: The 'Basket' page contains an inaccessible table |
| 12:50 | ashimema | It'll be nice to move away from headings for a while.. though that one looks 'interesting' |
| 12:52 | dang.. I have some catching up to do again now to keep up with cait | |
| 12:53 | cait | picking some more or less low hanging fruit for now |
| 12:53 | just trying to get a grip of it again :) | |
| 12:53 | hm htat probably was no proper english | |
| 12:53 | get the hang of it again..? | |
| 12:53 | ashimema | oh noes.. that'll make it even harder for me to catch up if you're grabbing the easy ones.. haha |
| 12:53 | ;) | |
| 12:54 | perfect english | |
| 12:56 | cait | ashimema: that's the idea ;) |
| 12:56 | ashimema | lol |
| 12:56 | cait | but also qa'ing some things i had filed and stuff i had already started on |
| 12:56 | ashimema | author of the month has also slipped through my fingers.. grr |
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| 12:57 | * ashimema | likes the gitstats.. be nice to put a selection of those in a pretty form on the dashboard I reckon |
| 12:57 | cait | ashimema: an easy one i can't touch Bug 24405 - Links in facets are styled differently than other links on the results page in OPAC |
| 12:58 | ashimema | sounds up my street given the stuff I'm doing at the minute |
| 12:58 | thanks | |
| 12:58 | right.. time for that walk | |
| 13:00 | cait | have fun |
| 13:00 | time for apple pie here soon (making one) | |
| 13:02 | oleonard: looking at bug 25402 - i wonder why i am not seeing some code removed for the modal? | |
| 13:02 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Put OPAC cart download options into dropdown menu |
| 13:03 | cait | like removing downloadBasket() |
| 13:04 | nm - commented on the bug | |
| 13:05 | has time | |
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| 13:12 | oleonard | Good point cait. Do you think I should also remove the opac-downloadcart template? It is now bypassed entirely |
| 13:18 | cait | possibly :) |
| 13:19 | i didn#t check that closely, but was pretty sure about the function after a grep | |
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| 13:32 | Joubu | tuxayo: around? |
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| 13:33 | tuxayo | yes Joubu o/ |
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| 14:11 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 15:53 | ashimema | didn't we used to show a 'No image found' image or similar when a cover image wasn't found for the shelf browser? |
| 15:53 | or am I imagining that? | |
| 15:53 | Joubu | yes |
| 15:53 | oleonard | It depends on the cover image service |
| 15:54 | Joubu | ha |
| 15:54 | ashimema | another complaint from the accessibility report |
| 15:54 | oleonard | ashimema: That it should? |
| 15:54 | Joubu | what is the complaint? |
| 15:54 | ashimema | I think so.. |
| 15:54 | though they suggest something else entirely | |
| 15:55 | >Where items displayed on the ‘Book shelf’ do not include cover images, keyboard focus is | |
| 15:55 | not highlighted by a visible focus indicator. This means that some users may be unable to | |
| 15:55 | determine where their focus is on the page. | |
| 15:55 | to be honest.. I can't replicate the issue for keyboard focus | |
| 15:56 | if I tab through the blank area IS highlighted | |
| 15:56 | maybe that's a chrome thing | |
| 15:56 | * ashimema | is growing tired.. think I should do something else for the last few minutes of my work day |
| 15:57 | ashimema | aha.. bug 25538 just went PQA |
| 15:57 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25538 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , www/search_utf8.t is failing randomly |
| 15:57 | ashimema | awesome |
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| 15:58 | Joubu | I am going to push it :) |
| 15:58 | oleonard | ashimema do you know which image service was being used during the test? |
| 15:59 | ashimema | erm.. |
| 15:59 | looks like Amazon | |
| 15:59 | https://commonslibrarytest.koh[…]r=247064#holdings | |
| 15:59 | the page is public and config hasn't changed since the test | |
| 16:03 | oleonard | The JS which is supposed to replace an Amazon.com 1x1 pixel cover image doesn't seem to work in the shelf browser |
| 16:04 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 25538: Default to --login|-i if no command passed <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0dfd16d83d71b66fe> |
| 16:04 | News from kohagit: Bug 25538: Use sudo -i in koha-shell <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a9091e73e48ff0715> | |
| 16:04 | News from kohagit: Bug 25538: Don't run search_utf8.t if KOHA_*_URL empty <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]73328f880258810c7> | |
| 16:05 | ashimema | interesting |
| 16:06 | oleonard | Regarding the focus, this is what I see in Firefox: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15918915381810 |
| 16:07 | ashimema | indeed.. so it's dashed in firefox.. in chrome it's more apparent as it's a solid black border on focus |
| 16:07 | they seem to suggest a hover css class | |
| 16:07 | but that doesn't entirely make sense to me.. perhaps it's just late and my brain has packed up | |
| 16:07 | I should write up the bug and come back to it tomorrow | |
| 16:08 | oleonard | ashimema I think the focus style might be both browser and OS-dependent :/ |
| 16:08 | ashimema | fun |
| 16:08 | oleonard | ...but certainly fixing the cover-handling would improve the way the focus appears |
| 16:09 | ashimema | :) |
| 16:09 | oleonard | ...also rewriting the entirety of all cover-image services would be great, just for quick fix :D |
| 16:10 | ashimema | lol |
| 16:12 | oleonard | Maybe after lunch... |
| 16:16 | caroline | I am very skeptical about this string to translate https://translate.koha-communi[…]14476806&offset=0 |
| 16:16 | wth?? | |
| 16:17 | There are even library infos "Bibliothèque Jean Prunier" "Secteur Adulte" | |
| 16:18 | cait | having them more centralized would be lovely |
| 16:18 | oh oops, should scroll down first, was referrng to cover code | |
| 16:18 | caroline: just copy them | |
| 16:18 | they are frm the examples for the ils-di interface | |
| 16:18 | from | |
| 16:19 | caroline | cait: ok thanks! |
| 16:19 | cait | which most likely a technical person will look at - it should be ok |
| 16:19 | it's actually xml... | |
| 16:19 | the in-built documentation pages (sorry if I don't make sense) | |
| 16:20 | i think biblibre did the ils-di, so it looks like a french record? | |
| 16:20 | caroline | yeah there is already french in there, one more reason I was skeptical |
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| 16:33 | ashimema | anyone understand the current state of bug 11426 ? |
| 16:33 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11426 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Make HighlightOwnItemsOnOPAC work with XSLT |
| 16:33 | ashimema | should it be NSO? |
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| 16:57 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 17:13 | tcohen | Joubu++ # jenkins back to green |
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| 17:21 | ashimema | Party |
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| 17:37 | Joubu | got 1 new random failure, awesome.. |
| 17:37 | oleonard | If I wanted to start up koha-testing-docker with a different version than master what do I do? |
| 17:38 | Do I change .env, the KOHA_IMAGE parameter? | |
| 17:39 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "tuxayo" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/22291 |
| 17:40 | tuxayo | :o |
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| 17:42 | tuxayo | tcohen: which build? |
| 17:42 | tcohen | I've just updated from the community repo |
| 17:45 | tuxayo | oleonard: Yes, here is what I use to RMaint 19.05.x |
| 17:45 | export KOHA_IMAGE=19.05-stretch ; ku-md9 ; kd # RMaint | |
| 17:46 | tcohen | tuxayo it seems lukeG addressed it 0578902e9151f66763b05da58db6387c753fdb93 |
| 17:46 | tuxayo | tcohen: the docker image repo? |
| 17:46 | tcohen | but for people that already faced the issue like me |
| 17:47 | you should add a new dbrev | |
| 17:47 | otherwise the syspref will be missing | |
| 17:47 | i.e. it isn't on my DB, and when 19..05.12 is released it won't try again | |
| 17:47 | so, a new dbrev is needd | |
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| 17:47 | oleonard | Thanks tuxayo, I just dug this link out of email: https://hub.docker.com/r/koha/koha-testing/tags |
| 17:47 | So I guess there is a limit to how far back one can go | |
| 17:48 | tcohen | oleonard what are you trying to do? |
| 17:49 | oleonard | Travel back into the mists of time |
| 17:49 | tuxayo | tcohen: Oh, a new DB rev that retries the same SQL, but fixed? |
| 17:49 | tcohen | oleonard: which Koha version specifically? |
| 17:49 | oleonard | I'd like to test a really old version like 3.22 tcohen, not sure if that can be done |
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| 17:52 | oleonard | It's not a big deal, I was just curious about how some features have changed |
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| 17:58 | tuxayo | tcohen: IIUC the SQL is already idempotent so I just have the copy the old DB rev? |
| 17:58 | tcohen | totally |
| 17:58 | just change the number | |
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| 18:08 | LA | Is there any documentation out there for adding an SSL cert to my instance? (Running Debian) |
| 18:11 | oleonard | LA have you looked for Debian-specific documentation on that? It's not strictly a Koha question |
| 18:12 | LA | That's what I was unsure of. Didn't know if I could just do a CLI based import through Debian or if I had to somehow do it from Koha. |
| 18:24 | tcohen | LA what you mean adding an SSL cert? i.e. do you have a cert you want to add, or are planning on using Letsencrypt |
| 18:25 | tuxayo | thanks for spotting this |
| 18:25 | tcohen++ | |
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| 18:36 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 18:36 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 18:44 | tuxayo | Looking for advice about a DB upgrade message. Does the following looks good? |
| 18:45 | "Replay of 19.05.10.003 upgrade that initially had a typo to ensure the changes are done" | |
| 18:45 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 18:45 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 19:03 | caroline | Is this an error? It reads really weird "Scheduled for automatic renewal and cannot yet be any more" |
| 19:04 | oleonard | That is nonsensical |
| 19:05 | caroline | it cannot BE anymore! *dramatic arm over brow* |
| 19:06 | its in intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/renew_strings.inc if someone is in that neighbourhood | |
| 19:07 | otherwise I'll try to correct it sometime | |
| 19:08 | oleonard | caroline do you understand what it's supposed to say? |
| 19:08 | caroline | Well it's for auto_too_late so I'm thinking it's supposed to say "Scheduled for automatic renewal and cannot yet be renewed" |
| 19:08 | or cannot be renewed anymore? | |
| 19:09 | auto_too_soon is Scheduled for automatic renewal and cannot yet be renewed | |
| 19:09 | so too late is cannot be renewed anymore | |
| 19:10 | oleonard | Why would it be too late to renew something? |
| 19:10 | caroline | I think whoever wrote it copied the auto_too_soon string and didn't reread the sentence |
| 19:11 | I have no idea why, though... maybe we dont want the item to be renewed like 24h before the automatic renewal? | |
| 19:11 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #323: SUCCESS in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/323/ |
| 19:12 | * caroline | has never used automatic renewal, so what does she know... |
| 19:14 | oleonard | @seen AndrewIsh |
| 19:14 | huginn | oleonard: AndrewIsh was last seen in #koha 50 weeks, 0 days, 5 hours, 39 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <AndrewIsh> Thanks for bringing the ILL template out of the dark ages |
| 19:14 | oleonard | whoa |
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| 19:20 | oleonard | caroline, it's from the "no automatic renewal after" circulation rule |
| 19:21 | I understand how a fixed date is useful, but I don't know about the days option. | |
| 19:21 | Anyway, that's probably enough info to compose a clearer string. | |
| 19:22 | caroline | bug 25717 makes sense? |
| 19:22 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25717 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Improve messages for automatic renewal errors |
| 19:23 | oleonard | yes |
| 19:24 | caroline | thanks oleonard++ :) |
| 19:26 | oleonard, can you tell me what has_fine is for (since you found the auto_too_late) | |
| 19:26 | Currently, it says "Item has an outstanding fine", but I don't think items can have fines... | |
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| 19:27 | oleonard | A checkout can have a fine |
| 19:28 | caroline | Ok I thought patrons had fines |
| 19:28 | oleonard | ...I very deliberately avoid understanding how fines work in Koha |
| 19:29 | caroline | lol!! |
| 19:39 | cait | :) |
| 19:39 | the too early comes from not wanting to renew the item all the time | |
| 19:39 | oleonard | @later tell ashimema Remind me to ask you about Bug 25240 when you're back on the clock |
| 19:39 | huginn | oleonard: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:39 | cait | and also because you add to the end of the due date |
| 19:39 | if you due_date + 10 days... and do that every day.. thatwould be bad | |
| 19:40 | so you start like 3 days before due date to try auto_renewals | |
| 19:41 | caroline | cait so would my message be ok? |
| 19:42 | cait | can you repeat? |
| 19:42 | caroline | bug 25717 |
| 19:42 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25717 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Improve messages for automatic renewal errors |
| 19:42 | cait | i'd say so :) |
| 19:42 | caroline | thanks! |
| 19:43 | cait | i actually had this on my typo list from translating too |
| 19:43 | you beat me with filing it :) | |
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| 20:16 | tuxayo | Looking for advice about a DB upgrade message. Does the following looks good? |
| 20:16 | "Replay of 19.05.10.003 upgrade that initially had a typo to ensure the changes are done" | |
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| 20:58 | aleisha | hello |
| 20:58 | caroline | hi aleisha! |
| 20:58 | aleisha | hi caroline :) |
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| 21:02 | caroline | are inc files supposed to be used everywhere? Example, I'm translating patronfields.inc, are those strings eventually going to be all over Koha wherever a patron is mentioned? I'm asking because the strings are not the same as what is currently in moremember |
| 21:13 | cait | hm i think i tried to make them them same on translating - some includes are used often, othres might be single use, not sure about that one |
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| 21:21 | cait | aleisha: did you see the mail on the mailing list about no translation updates on 19.11 for a while? |
| 21:22 | not sure what's going on there. could you keep it in mind for your first release maybe? | |
| 21:22 | aleisha | thanks cait i hadn't seen that. will keep in mind |
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| 21:23 | cait | thx :) |
| 21:32 | because I just see it i my inbox, it was: [Koha-devel] No translation updates on 19.11.x since 19.11.03? | |
| 21:44 | aleisha | yup! will try and catch things up for the first release if i can :) |
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| 22:03 | tuxayo | hi aleisha o/ |
| 22:03 | IIUC I can backport bug 22522 when I reach it? (still few patchset to catch up) | |
| 22:03 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22522 critical, P1 - high, ---, ere.maijala, Pushed to stable , API authentication breaks with updated Mojolicious version |
| 22:05 | aleisha | no worries tuxayo i am still catching up too :) i believe you can backport bug 22522. Joubu or tcohen may be able to answer more accurately? |
| 22:15 | tuxayo | Thanks, I will ask them if everything they planned had made it to 19.11 |
| 22:18 | aleisha | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]efs/heads/19.11.x |
| 22:22 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 22:22 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 22:59 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 22:59 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 23:25 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 23:25 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 23:30 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 23:30 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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