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| 04:08 | RudyW | We have installed Koha 18.05 on Ubuntu 18.04 on VMWare with 6GB Ram and high resource allocation. |
| 04:09 | Everything is fine and direct access to our 30000 books MySQL database is super fast. | |
| 04:11 | But browsing the site is just a bit too slow. I don't understand why. Any parameters we could try to increase the user experience? | |
| 04:11 | dcook | RudyW: Do you know if you're using Plack? |
| 04:12 | Actually, now that I've asked that, I'm guessing you probably are. What sort of response times are you getting when browsing the site? | |
| 04:12 | RudyW | No, Koha is running on our own server (ESXi 5.5) |
| 04:13 | dcook | I might not have phrased my question correctly. Plack is a Perl module for using PSGI instead of CGI for communicating between the application and the web server |
| 04:14 | How did you install Koha? | |
| 04:14 | That is, which instructions did you follow? | |
| 04:14 | RudyW | A search for 'Math' takes 8 secs (returns 1164 results) |
| 04:14 | dcook | Hmm that does sound pretty slow although I've heard of slower. |
| 04:15 | RudyW | ok, let me check the modules |
| 04:15 | dcook | The installation method matters a lot to how we help |
| 04:15 | Sorry don't worry about the modules for now | |
| 04:15 | Did you install using Debian packages? | |
| 04:15 | Maybe following https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian or https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]buntu_-_packages? | |
| 04:16 | RudyW | Let me just go back to my installation notes |
| 04:16 | dcook | Sounds good |
| 04:18 | RudyW | We used Koha-18.05 on Ubuntu-18.04 TLS |
| 04:18 | http://mysqltutes.com/wp/index[…]ubuntu-18-04-lts/ | |
| 04:21 | dcook | Yikes. Ok... |
| 04:22 | Typically, we expect people to follow the Koha Commmunity wiki, but let's see... | |
| 04:24 | RudyW | Under modules I see Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxy (0.14) -- it that means anything |
| 04:25 | dcook | Not really but thanks for looking :) |
| 04:25 | In any case, if you followed the steps here, you should have installed with Debian packages, so that's good | |
| 04:28 | Do you have a document from this process? | |
| 04:28 | Like a transcript for the video? | |
| 04:29 | RudyW: Did you follow the video exactly? | |
| 04:31 | RudyW | we installed Ubuntu 18.04 LTS without GUI - then followed the video exactly |
| 04:32 | Then we deleted the MySQL database and restored from out backup. | |
| 04:32 | The upgrade gave some errors - but everything is there what we are having on our current Koha 16.04 | |
| 04:32 | dcook | Ok, well it looks like you're not using Plack, so here's a tip |
| 04:33 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ckages#koha-plack | |
| 04:33 | On your command line, try "sudo koha-plack --enable library" then "sudo koha-plack --start library" | |
| 04:34 | RudyW | ok, let me try that - I will just take a VM snapshot first |
| 04:36 | dcook | Basically, it's creating a web server using the Plack module which allows for a more persistent environment which increases the performance. You'll still have Apache running as a web server as well, but it will proxy requests to the Plack-based web server. |
| 04:36 | Other than that, help with tuning the performance of your instance is beyond what I can provide here | |
| 04:37 | RudyW | Thank you for your help. I will let you know whether it made a difference. I hope so! |
| 04:37 | dcook | Provided that it works without any errors, you should notice a huge performance improvement |
| 04:38 | You probably won't get search results in under a second, but I wouldn't be surprised by 3 seconds instead of 8 seconds. | |
| 04:38 | Anyway, I need to focus on some things. Hope that helps. | |
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| 05:51 | fridolin | hi there |
| 06:01 | calire | morning #koha |
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| 06:36 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:36 | wahanui | hola, alex_a |
| 06:40 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 06:47 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:47 | wahanui | kia ora, reiveune |
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| 08:01 | AndrewIsh | magnuse: around? |
| 08:01 | ashimema | morning Andrewish |
| 08:01 | AndrewIsh | G'morn ashimema |
| 08:01 | ashimema | magnuse isn't even online ;) |
| 08:01 | AndrewIsh | He is according to my IRC client |
| 08:01 | ashimema | I'd leave him a `later` is I were you ;) |
| 08:01 | AndrewIsh | Look at the top |
| 08:02 | !seen magnuse | |
| 08:02 | AnnaBoten | magnuse was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 21 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <magnuse> \o/ |
| 08:02 | ashimema | interesting.. he wasn't there a moment ago for me |
| 08:02 | perhaps search filtering has gone whack on my client | |
| 08:02 | AndrewIsh | :) |
| 08:03 | I'll guess at what his answer to my question would have been, it's a bit of a blocker :) | |
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| 08:08 | Archie | Hi All |
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| 08:10 | Archie | hey yall maybe you can help me out a little bit? I'm trying to remove the library instance |
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| 08:11 | Archie | i'm running: sudo koha-remove library and i get this issue mysql: [ERROR] Could not open required defaults file: /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf |
| 08:11 | tuxayo | Archie: Is the file here? With which permissions? |
| 08:12 | Archie | can you help me finding it's actual directory? (i've installed koha via packages) |
| 08:12 | or do you mean the koha-common.conf | |
| 08:13 | tuxayo | Archie: type `ls -l /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf` |
| 08:14 | Archie | no the file is not there |
| 08:14 | tuxayo | Hum, does anyone using the packaged version have an idea? ^^" |
| 08:15 | Archie | but the issue appears when i'm trying to reinstall koha-common, i get this DBI connect('database=koha_library;host=localhost;port=3306','koha_library',...) failed: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 1517. |
| 08:15 | magnuse | AndrewIsh: i'm here now :-) |
| 08:17 | hm, the fix from https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]uto_increment_fix seems to be working sometimes. anyone else seeing that? | |
| 08:18 | gah s/be/not be/ | |
| 08:22 | Archie | can't i just delete all mentions of instance library with all koha files and fully re-install it? |
| 08:24 | coz if i try to use this solution more i see: stat of /etc/mysql/my.cnf failed: No such file or directory | |
| 08:25 | AndrewIsh | Hi magnuse - don't worry I figured it out. A bad merge of your ILL comments patches was causing me much confusion, but all is clear now :-D |
| 08:37 | magnuse | AndrewIsh: yay! |
| 08:37 | @later tell Archie have you tried "koha-remove --purge-all"? | |
| 08:37 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:39 | tuxayo | Does anyone know which way bug 14784 should be automatically tested? (the logic of the test) That will be my first time writing a test. :) |
| 08:39 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14784 minor, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Failed QA , Missing checkin message for debarred patrons when issuing rules 'fine days = 0' |
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| 09:36 | * ashimema | wants oleonard on the qa team as 'ui specialist' and then he could just pass UI related fixes to him as a quick look and pass excersize |
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| 09:41 | RudyW | Any experts for Plack? I did install using the Plack Wiki. But there is no performance difference. I also don't see Plack on the # top list with %CPU % MEM |
| 09:42 | Koha About: Koha version:18.05.04.000 / PSGI:Plack (deployment) | |
| 09:43 | What could be missing? | |
| 09:43 | magnuse | did you active and start plack? |
| 09:43 | sudo koha-plack --enable <instance> && sudo koha-plack --start <instance> | |
| 09:43 | ashimema | and 'How are you measuring performance' |
| 09:44 | RudyW | yes I did : sudo koha-plack --enable library && sudo koha-plack --start library and Apache2 restart |
| 09:45 | I do my standard search for 'Math' which takes 8 secs. No difference | |
| 09:45 | * cait | waves |
| 09:46 | cait | RudyW: search is not the best to compare |
| 09:46 | every other page should load much faster with plack | |
| 09:46 | RudyW | I see in other blogs that Plack takes high CPU load. But I can't even see it on my #top list |
| 09:47 | cait | does plack show as running on about > system information? |
| 09:47 | ashimema | search is mostly based on Zebra performance (unless you're running Elastic in which case it's based on Elastic performance) |
| 09:47 | How large is your catalogue? | |
| 09:48 | kidclamp | for both ES and zebra search speed is limited by XSLT too |
| 09:48 | RudyW | I don't see anything about Plack on the 'System Information' tab |
| 09:48 | ashimema | indeed |
| 09:48 | very very true | |
| 09:48 | RudyW | We have 35000 books |
| 09:48 | cait | ah sorry wrong tab, the first |
| 09:48 | RudyW | on the first tab: PSGI:Plack (deployment) |
| 09:49 | ashimema | that's not a huge catalogue so I doubt zebra is the limiting factor here.. but I could be wrong |
| 09:49 | RudyW | I have assigne 6GB RAM to the VMHost |
| 09:50 | * ashimema | is out of ideas |
| 09:52 | RudyW | Compared with https://opac-kohademo.equinoxi[…]-search.pl?q=math our system seems much slower |
| 09:53 | cait | hm mysql configuration maybe? |
| 09:53 | RudyW | I don't think because when we do direct queries to the Koha MySQL it is super fast! |
| 09:59 | cait | have you changed the view per page setting? showing more than 20 per page? |
| 09:59 | that slows down things | |
| 10:00 | also using zebra facets can have negative impact, but not with your size usually | |
| 10:07 | RudyW | Showing 20 per page |
| 10:08 | cait | sorry, out of ideas then too |
| 10:09 | RudyW | thanks anyway for your ideas |
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| 10:38 | * andreashm | waves |
| 10:40 | ashimema | does no-one use https://splitter.koha-community.org/ anymore :( |
| 10:40 | it's been down for ages | |
| 10:40 | or rather.. it only support http.. so is difficult to get to | |
| 10:59 | cait | rangi runs it i think |
| 11:13 | ashimema | Mmm, I'll raise it.. think it was a very issue that came up after trying to add something else to the server |
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| 11:44 | ashimema | @seen drojf |
| 11:44 | huginn | ashimema: drojf was last seen in #koha 9 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 34 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <drojf> and you? |
| 11:44 | ashimema | blimey.. not seen him in ages! |
| 11:44 | bit early for tcohen I guess too | |
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| 12:01 | theod | Hello everyone, I have a quick question regarding 942$0, update_totalissues script and sorting by popularity |
| 12:02 | The upgrade_totalissues script updates biblioitems.totalissues and (i think) updates the 942$0 too. | |
| 12:03 | I believe that sorting by popularity is based on the indexed 942$0 values | |
| 12:05 | So, since 942$0 is a subfield that can be edited/deleted by a librarian, the output of the sort will be based on the values entered by the librarian UNTIL a checkout of a relevant item is performed and that value is properly updated by the script | |
| 12:06 | cait | sounds about right |
| 12:06 | theod | Even worse, if a librarian duplicates a biblio with a value in 942$0, that value will be in the new biblio record (although it should practically be 0) |
| 12:07 | cait | but usually this field/subfield is hidden i think |
| 12:10 | theod | if the field is indeed hidden, then the cloning of a record should NOT clone this value... |
| 12:14 | or else, you will never realise this inconcistency... | |
| 12:15 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:18 | Joubu | hi there |
| 12:18 | RudyW: no warnings on the about page? | |
| 12:18 | corilynn | Joubu... I need your help again, when you have a moment :( I got tired last night and really messed up the patch |
| 12:18 | Joubu | @later tell RudyW no warnings on the about page? |
| 12:18 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:19 | Joubu | corilynn: bug 21503? |
| 12:19 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21503 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cbrannon, Needs Signoff , Update AuthorisedValues.pm to fall back to code if description doesn't exist |
| 12:20 | corilynn | no, Bug 19263 |
| 12:20 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, ASSIGNED , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget |
| 12:21 | corilynn | I accidentally ran the commit command twice and now it's got merge issues, and I'm somehow missing a file in there... |
| 12:23 | Joubu | what did you want to do? |
| 12:24 | corilynn | I want to go back in time? Do you have a delorian? |
| 12:25 | ashimema | reflog |
| 12:25 | perhaps | |
| 12:25 | Joubu | you can do everything with git, so yes :) |
| 12:26 | corilynn | can you walk me through that? |
| 12:26 | looked at https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]olve_Merge_Issues | |
| 12:26 | Joubu | the last patch - https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ment.cgi?id=80240 |
| 12:27 | there is a "var reg001", where does it come from? | |
| 12:27 | corilynn | I created it |
| 12:27 | that's what I mean, I want to kill this patch, plus the one before it | |
| 12:28 | I think they got flubbed, and they are "easy" changes I can recreate | |
| 12:28 | Joubu | so you have a clean branch locally, with all the changes you want to submit? |
| 12:29 | corilynn | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 12:29 | lets say I do... | |
| 12:29 | I def. have all the changes | |
| 12:29 | Joubu | you can obsolete the patches on the bug report, then resubmit the ones you have locally |
| 12:30 | corilynn | k |
| 12:30 | Joubu | but I am not sure I understand exactly the issue :) |
| 12:30 | corilynn | I guarentee I don't. |
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| 12:31 | corilynn | The issue I have is that I'm setting up a new dev box, and I thought I'd test this change this morning and it gave me a merge issue, then I realized whatever I did last night before shutting down is borked |
| 12:31 | archie | Hi guys! can anyone tell me what is the name of table for patrons? I'm in the middle of ETL project and started mapping tables |
| 12:32 | i created test patron but i can't find it in neither patron_lists. patron_list_patrons nor patronimage | |
| 12:35 | Joubu | corilynn: if you have a local branch with the correct changes you should definitely obsolete all those on the bug report then resubmit all the one you have locally (git bz attach -e...) |
| 12:35 | corilynn | k, trying that now |
| 12:35 | Joubu | Archie: it's "borrowers" |
| 12:36 | archie | oh sweet. thank you! |
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| 12:56 | corilynn | Joubu, I'm all clean, reapplied my update and have a commit message |
| 12:56 | I'm about to do git bz attach ... but here's where I think I messed up before | |
| 12:56 | magnuse | have fun #koha, see y'all on monday! |
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| 13:00 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 13:01 | caroline | good morning! |
| 13:01 | calire | hi oleonard |
| 13:01 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 13:01 | calire | hi caroline |
| 13:01 | caroline | hi calire! |
| 13:02 | oleonard | Hi caroline, calire, and most of all <3 wahanui |
| 13:02 | calire | wahanui gets all the love |
| 13:02 | wahanui | calire: sorry... |
| 13:02 | calire | :D |
| 13:09 | Joubu | corilynn: seems ok now, right? |
| 13:09 | corilynn | yes... but there's still a bug |
| 13:09 | Joubu | well, at least the patches apply :) |
| 13:09 | corilynn | they do |
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| 13:14 | corilynn | never mind, it just needed a reload of the page :) |
| 13:15 | bug 19263 is ready for inspection | |
| 13:15 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, Needs Signoff , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget |
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| 13:19 | Freddy_Enrique | Greetings Koha :3 |
| 13:20 | caroline | Hi Freddy_Enrique! |
| 13:25 | archie | god damn it i'm confused ;D |
| 13:26 | oleonard | What's up archie? |
| 13:26 | archie | right so story so far. i've installed koha, i have koha. it's on my local machine. i can access both intra and opac... now wanna see if i can tweak and change internally stuff in koha. for instanc einstead of button "patrons" i wanna change it to "hello there archie" |
| 13:27 | Freddy_Enrique | ??? |
| 13:27 | caroline | archie: try the system preference IntranetUserJS |
| 13:28 | you can look through here if something is similar to what you need https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/JQuery_Library | |
| 13:29 | oleonard | archie: If your question is, "Where are the HTML templates for Koha's interface" we can answer that, but we always discourage changing them because it makes upgrades very difficult. |
| 13:29 | Freddy_Enrique | I figured... |
| 13:29 | archie | i mean, i need some sort of "proof of concept" that we can change stuffin koha before rolling out proposal that we can actually do that |
| 13:30 | caroline | archie: what oleonard said, which is why it's easier to change the system preference |
| 13:31 | archie | ok does it metter how i installed koha? using git or packages? |
| 13:31 | caroline | I don't know javascript personally, but it seems pretty simple to change the wording on the buttons |
| 13:32 | Freddy_Enrique | uhm... I think it is better that package method. It is meant for production |
| 13:33 | and git for development | |
| 13:33 | archie | wait a second |
| 13:33 | where excatly are located the jquerry files? | |
| 13:35 | oleonard | archie: jQuery is a JavaScript library which is included with Koha and which can be used to apply customizations to Koha by leveraging the opacuserjs and intranetuserjs system preferences. |
| 13:35 | caroline | If you want to change them through system preferences, in the interface, go to Administration > Global system preferences, search for IntranetUserJS, write you JS in there and save |
| 13:35 | *your | |
| 13:37 | archie | oh sweet thank you |
| 13:39 | Freddy_Enrique | I finished my first draft, hope is accurate. Tell me your thoughts please |
| 13:39 | https://snag.gy/TZmpDI.jpg | |
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| 13:40 | oleonard | Very nice Freddy_Enrique |
| 13:40 | I don't know what the use case is... Would it be worthwhile to add something about paid support too? | |
| 13:40 | caroline | Freddy_Enrique++ |
| 13:40 | Freddy_Enrique | After this I wanna see the koha versions... 17 , 18... the master. That topic is not clear to me yet |
| 13:42 | paid support... oh! | |
| 13:42 | I missed that | |
| 13:43 | * ashimema | will take a look in a moment |
| 13:43 | caroline | Freddy_Enrique: about the versions: https://koha-community.org/abo[…]release-schedule/ the community releases two major versions per year, one in May, and one in November they are numbered like this YY.MM (so 18.05 is the May 2018 version) |
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| 13:46 | caroline | Freddy_Enrique: every month (I think) there are smaller releases to fix bugs, the numbers are YY.MM.01, YY.MM.02, etc. (so right now, I'm not sure which version is the latest, but something like 18.05.04) |
| 13:47 | Freddy_Enrique | caroline: those dates for the major releases are accurate? I mean... |
| 13:48 | caroline | Freddy_Enrique: the master is the WIP version. in November, whatever is in the master will become version 18.11 and we'll continue to work on it for the 19,05 version |
| 13:48 | * Freddy_Enrique | doesn't know how to say something in English.... |
| 13:48 | caroline | hehe! sorry, I speak only minimal spanish... |
| 13:49 | Freddy_Enrique | Why 2 versions? 17 and 18 separately |
| 13:49 | oleonard | Freddy_Enrique: Some people prefer to use an older version because it is seen as more stable, fewer bugs |
| 13:49 | ashimema | think of them as 'oldoldstable', 'oldstable' and 'stable' |
| 13:49 | they are 'maintained' versions | |
| 13:49 | Freddy_Enrique | oldoldstable, that's a new one |
| 13:49 | oleonard | We maintain one or two older versions if we have the volunteers to keep them up to date with bug fixes |
| 13:50 | Freddy_Enrique | oh, just found it in the debian installe method |
| 13:50 | caroline | Freddy_Enrique: the community maintains 3 versions. So if you have 17.11 on your system for example, you can still get bug fixes, but you won't get new features |
| 13:50 | ashimema | right now oldoldstable is 17.05, oldstable is 17.11 and stable is 18.05 .. (and development is 18.06) |
| 13:50 | * Freddy_Enrique | taking notes like a maniac |
| 13:51 | caroline | Freddy_Enrique: It's like Windows. You can still work on Windows 8 (don't know if that's accurate, but just for the example), and Microsoft will still issue patches for bugs on Windows 8 |
| 13:51 | but new features are only in Windows 10 | |
| 13:51 | oleonard | development is 18.11 |
| 13:51 | ashimema | when 18.11 is released.. 18.06 will become 18.11 and will be codenames 'stable', 18.05 will become oldstable, 17.11 become 'oldoldstable' and 17.05 will be 'out of maintanence' |
| 13:51 | Freddy_Enrique | more clear than water.... |
| 13:51 | caroline++ | |
| 13:51 | ashimema++ | |
| 13:52 | caroline | You can also still work on Windows 95, but Microsoft doesn't support it, so it's like Koha 16.05 for example |
| 13:52 | ashimema | development is actually 18.06 oleonard (see the release manager docs on the wiki.. or just look at the version number in the current master 😉 ) |
| 13:52 | it only become 18.11 at point of release ;) | |
| 13:52 | unless you're a dev you should never see a X.06 ;) | |
| 13:52 | oleonard | Oh sorry I thought you meant "will be" |
| 13:52 | ashimema | just X.05 or X.11 |
| 13:53 | hehe.. no worries | |
| 13:54 | Joubu | Freddy_Enrique: What's the title of your graph? What do you want to represent exactly? |
| 13:55 | I'd suggest another "Want to help?" section, but that will make it much bigger and complex :) | |
| 13:57 | caroline: did you compare Windows and Koha? :D | |
| 13:58 | caroline | Joubu: hehe! Windows is so widely known it's easy to use it as an example ;) although I apologize for comparing Win 95 to Koha 16.05 |
| 13:59 | Freddy_Enrique | Joubu++ |
| 13:59 | Sorry guys, been in a meeting | |
| 13:59 | thanks a lot guys btw.. I'll work on it | |
| 13:59 | the topic of my draft will be... | |
| 14:00 | well, with this new info.. the recomendation is to be up to date | |
| 14:00 | Joubu | caroline: I was kidding of course :) At least there is a '5' in common, both are considered as very stable but with security vulnerabilities |
| 14:01 | * oleonard | pops that old Myst CD-ROM into his Windows 95 Dell. |
| 14:01 | Freddy_Enrique | XD |
| 14:01 | * calire | loved myst, but was terrible at it |
| 14:01 | caroline | oleonard: for your internat cafe, you will definitely need that CD-ROM |
| 14:02 | *internet | |
| 14:02 | Freddy_Enrique | Joubu: was having problems understanding how the versions are managed, but it is getting clear now |
| 14:03 | * Freddy_Enrique | feeling inspired, looks for his pencil |
| 14:03 | Freddy_Enrique | again, thanks a lot guys |
| 14:04 | caroline | Freddy_Enrique: someone is assigned (or assigns themselves) as "maintainer" for a particular version. They go through the bugs that are fixed ("pushed to master") and apply them to the version they are maintaining |
| 14:04 | correct me if I'm wrong ashimema, Joubu, fridolin | |
| 14:05 | fridolin | caroline: its that |
| 14:05 | but for stable only | |
| 14:05 | old stable get fixes from stable | |
| 14:05 | ... and so on | |
| 14:06 | Joubu | yep, in 99% of the cases |
| 14:06 | fridolin | Freddy_Enrique i'm currently on 17.11 maintaing from patches comming in 18.05 |
| 14:06 | caroline | So maintainer for stable goes through bugs that are pushed to master and applies them to stable version; maintainer for oldstable goes through bugs pushed to stable and applies them to oldstable; maintainer for oldoldstable goes through bugs pushed to oldstable and applies them to oldoldstable |
| 14:07 | fridolin | that is why you see signed-off by of RMamanger, then stable RMaint, then oldstable RMaint |
| 14:07 | Freddy_Enrique | where have you been all my life fridolin, first time I see you.. |
| 14:08 | fridolin | roles are by vote https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]e=Roles_for_19.05 |
| 14:08 | Freddy_Enrique | roles... aja! |
| 14:08 | fridolin | Freddy_Enrique: oh im always there, but i'm in GMT+2 |
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| 14:09 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 14:10 | Freddy_Enrique | Hi mtompset |
| 14:10 | mtompset | Greetings, Freddy_Enrique |
| 14:10 | @seen ashimema | |
| 14:10 | huginn | mtompset: ashimema was last seen in #koha 17 minutes and 15 seconds ago: <ashimema> hehe.. no worries |
| 14:10 | Freddy_Enrique | GMT+2... where are you from fridolin |
| 14:10 | mtompset | You here, ashimema? |
| 14:10 | fridolin | Freddy_Enrique: i'm in France, next to Montpellier |
| 14:10 | ashimema | here |
| 14:11 | fridolin | its french riviera |
| 14:11 | ashimema | just catching up on the reading |
| 14:11 | Freddy_Enrique | O.o... holy mustache |
| 14:11 | ashimema | you guys talk fast ;) |
| 14:11 | fridolin | best place in the world |
| 14:11 | ashimema | release maintainers also watch bugzilla for version specific bugs Freddy_Enrique |
| 14:13 | mtompset | ashimema, I was able to apply bug 15529 after a git reset --hard and a git pull no issue. |
| 14:13 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15529 normal, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Patch doesn't apply , Process Message Queue may send duplicate emails if process is launched twice |
| 14:13 | ashimema | so.. if a bug is reported against 18.05 for instance.. I first check if it's a bug in master.. if it is I re-assign to master and then once a fix is pushed to master I'll port it back and the waterfall will continue.. if it only applies to 18.05 I'll do a fix just for my branch and let Frido know to check 17.11 |
| 14:13 | but those are rather unlikely. | |
| 14:13 | * Freddy_Enrique | new was gonna watch bugzilla at some point |
| 14:13 | ashimema | (to date I've not actually had one 😉 ) |
| 14:13 | hmm | |
| 14:13 | I'll give it another go mtompset | |
| 14:14 | mtompset | But the comment about ZEBRA_DIR is valid, and it needs a followup for that. |
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| 14:23 | ashimema | What about the type stuff.. what do you think about that? |
| 14:23 | * ashimema | is now on the school run.. so expect intermittent replies |
| 14:25 | mtompset | ashimema, What do you mean the type stuff? |
| 14:26 | ashimema | I added a comment about the script be able to be called with a message type specified |
| 14:26 | I think there needs a bit more thought around that | |
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| 14:27 | ashimema | Comment 33 on the bug |
| 14:31 | mtompset | you mean sms, email? That's method. |
| 14:32 | Oops... no, it's already in there: type. I'm not sure the problem. | |
| 14:32 | OOOOH! | |
| 14:33 | The type isn't part of the locking key, so you can't run simultaneously non-overlapping types. | |
| 14:34 | I would think that is beyond the scope of this bug. | |
| 14:35 | You'd have to purposefully run through "selected types" in a sort of loop. | |
| 14:35 | and lock each type as you go. | |
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| 14:50 | Joubu | @later tell josef_moravec Hi Josef! Do not forget to link bug reports, to avoid duplicated work (like 21481 vs 21483). Great work btw, your patches were much more complete than mine :) |
| 14:50 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:52 | ashimema | Indeed.. but as this fix also doesn't support a no locking version for backwards compatibility I think it becomes a regression to not take account of type in the lock |
| 14:53 | Joubu | ashimema: did you see comment my comment on bug 21072? |
| 14:53 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21072 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Should not show 'Update patron to adult' if no adult patron categories |
| 14:54 | ashimema | Tcohen or Joubu, I wouldn't mind a second opinion on bug 15529 regarding comment 33 |
| 14:54 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15529 normal, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Patch doesn't apply , Process Message Queue may send duplicate emails if process is launched twice |
| 14:54 | ashimema | Before I fail it too hastily |
| 14:56 | Joubu, I saw your comment on bug 21072.. and agree it's not backport worthy at that complexity.. but I would be willing to to a half measures approach to hide the button in 18.05 if Nick was keen to have something rather than nothing in stable | |
| 14:58 | mtompset | ashimema, should be allow no lock backward compatibility? That's the real question. If not, then fail for that. |
| 14:58 | Requiring locking per type and running through the types selected seems like an enhancement. | |
| 15:00 | ashimema | Mmm, I agree |
| 15:01 | Maybe I'll take a look at how hard that might be this evening and add as a follow-up . Currently juggling child care duties 😉 | |
| 15:02 | mtompset | I can do that today. Child care duties are more important. :) |
| 15:05 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:05 | * oleonard | keeps forgetting to start a Koha development sweatshop staffed by his children |
| 15:06 | ashimema | Lol |
| 15:07 | I was going to try a find a simple patch for my daughter to write as it happens for her a cub scout badge 😉 | |
| 15:09 | She's done a bit of html and a fair bit of scratch to date.. no perl though yet.. | |
| 15:12 | corilynn | I wrote a "How to code by creating games" book in Scratch and Processing like a million years ago |
| 15:12 | ashimema | Cool corilynn |
| 15:13 | corilynn | publishing is hard, tho... you already have to have a following |
| 15:13 | "platform" | |
| 15:13 | scratch is excellent | |
| 15:14 | ashimema | I like scratch |
| 15:14 | caroline | https://www.codeclubworld.org/projects/ Come libraries have code clubs, but I think librarians don't feel good enough in coding to get into it more |
| 15:14 | *some | |
| 15:15 | corilynn | that's cool. I was a developer before I was a librarian... I guess I'm back to being a developer too |
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| 15:24 | ashimema | Our library has a code club.. but my kids aren't old enough to attend (and as far as I can tell are already a bit advanced for the class they would attend when they are) |
| 15:24 | I volunteered at coder dojo for a while though.. my eldest enjoyed that | |
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| 15:26 | tcohen | @seen CrispyBran |
| 15:26 | huginn | tcohen: CrispyBran was last seen in #koha 18 hours, 2 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <CrispyBran> corilynn: you need to remove the hash (#) in front of that status when you edit (-e). |
| 15:28 | ashimema | Scratch isn't as viable on Linux since they switched to actionscript though |
| 15:43 | Joubu | ashimema: for a simple patch see bug 18584 and koha-howto ;) |
| 15:43 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18584 trivial, P5 - low, ---, carnold, Pushed to Master , Our legacy code contains trailing-spaces |
| 15:44 | oleonard | This is the only Scratch I know: http://pvponline.com/comic/november-3-2004 |
| 15:44 | ashimema | I was thinking of taxing her a little more than that 😉 |
| 15:47 | Joubu | ashimema: well, she will then be ready to write a second patch and take a look at C4::Auth |
| 15:48 | ashimema | Lol |
| 16:00 | mtompset | re: scratch --- my son LOVES scratch. He's on that website creating things all the time. |
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| 16:09 | caroline | ugh... I hate VPNs that lock me out of my own network... |
| 16:10 | * mtompset | nods. |
| 16:10 | oleonard | We know you're just trying to watch US Netflix, don't even pretend |
| 16:11 | caroline | I wish :) |
| 16:12 | Netflix are very menacing towards proxy users... I'm afraid of them | |
| 16:15 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 7143: (follow-up) remove trailing apostrophe <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]36cf3a787f6077af2> |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: DBRev 18.06.00.040 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1a47d156e50b91fa0> | |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Convert atomic update to perl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9f7d9781c5522b79b> | |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 15734: Use To.json to filter audio alerts <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]50ff0362e369b6ff1> | |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 15520: DBRev 18.06.00.039 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]531e17250753755a7> | |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Translatability and wrong escaping fix <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]edbedd5baaa255124> | |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Move menu to 'Catalog' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3c0f89ecb2a4311f4> | |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Update of tools-menu.js <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b86c9d23227135014> | |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Fixes for JS12 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]aafe372fc8ff7b7ab> | |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: 'superlibrarian' has 'stockrotation' perms <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ecc8ccb6b7c1e305d> | |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Template filter fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3f62f33a1e6484608> | |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Add sample notices for all languages <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2d2950ad7df75ada3> | |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Use 'stockrotation' permission for the endpoint <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e6490c7f84e9eb763> | |
| 16:15 | cait | ah... nice to watch :) |
| 16:15 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Fix tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1678dfccc25aa3c26> |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Remove rebase leftover <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]851f10c7c41d8d8bd> | |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 15520: (QA follow-up) Fix renaming of circ rules permission <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5bccd0cfe6d905c29> | |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Stockrotation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]39e63021d504a75de> | |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Add Boolean handling to dbic classes. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ef386255e31f2ead3> | |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: DBIX::Class::Ordered in Stockrotationstage. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]977e667e028e0c4aa> | |
| 16:15 | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Add Stock Rotation atomic update schema. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e6127e98974dc81b6> | |
| 16:15 | caroline | push all the things! |
| 16:19 | ashimema | lol.. and that's just one bugs worth ;) |
| 16:19 | me is absolutely delighted that particular bug is pushed though :) | |
| 16:20 | ack.. who just did a bunch of SO's... I was so nearly under 50 in the NQA queue.. lol | |
| 16:21 | poor kiclamp.. 44 patchsets in his queue to push | |
| 16:22 | kidclamp | chugging along |
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| 16:30 | * CrispyBran | waves |
| 16:31 | caroline | hi CrispyBran! |
| 16:31 | CrispyBran | hello |
| 16:31 | wahanui | hi, CrispyBran |
| 16:33 | CrispyBran | tcohen: kohadevbox seems to be out of space. I can't bring it up. Thoughts? |
| 16:36 | cait | sorry, i've been pretty useless the last few days :( |
| 16:36 | CrispyBran | no candy for you |
| 16:36 | cait | :( |
| 16:36 | CrispyBran | :P |
| 16:37 | * oleonard | slips some candy under the table to cait |
| 16:37 | cait | :) |
| 16:37 | * cait | got knocked down by a cold |
| 16:37 | CrispyBran | I see how it is. :) |
| 16:50 | * ashimema | passes chicken soup to cait |
| 16:51 | mtompset | Greetings, Joubu caroline CrispyBran oleonard cait |
| 16:51 | CrispyBran | hello mtompset |
| 16:51 | caroline | hey mtompset! |
| 16:51 | wahanui | mtompset is, like, about to test and sign off bug 21385. :) |
| 16:51 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21385 major, P2, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Stable , Vendor search: Item count is incorrectly updated on partial receive |
| 16:52 | cait | ashimema++ |
| 16:52 | ashimema | Are you.. thought that one was pushed |
| 16:53 | Oh.. I just got wahanui'd | |
| 16:53 | caroline | wahanui is now a verb |
| 16:53 | ashimema | Hehe |
| 16:54 | caroline | aw... I thought he'd remember that and spout it out when we said wahanui? |
| 16:54 | cait | wahanui? |
| 16:54 | ashimema | wahanui mtompset is on a sign off marathon |
| 16:54 | wahanui | cait? |
| 16:54 | ...but mtompset is about to test and sign off bug 21385. :)... | |
| 16:54 | cait | wahanui? |
| 16:54 | wahanui | yes, cait? |
| 16:54 | cait | hm |
| 16:54 | all good | |
| 16:54 | * ashimema | wants a 'man wahanui' |
| 16:55 | oleonard | wahanui: mtompset is not about to test and sign off bug 21385 |
| 16:55 | wahanui | ...but mtompset is about to test and sign off bug 21385. :)... |
| 16:55 | caroline | I thought you wanted a man wahanui vs a woman wahanui, was confused |
| 16:56 | ashimema | I can never remember how to talk to wahanui |
| 16:56 | oleonard | Not that bots require a gender, but I think wahanui gets he/him because of the man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahanui |
| 16:57 | caroline | ooh mustache! |
| 16:58 | cait | maybe it's it |
| 16:58 | http://maoridictionary.co.nz/s[…]&keywords=wahanui | |
| 16:59 | oleonard | wahanui: list |
| 16:59 | wahanui | oleonard: what? |
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| 17:00 | oleonard | wahanui: Never mind. |
| 17:00 | wahanui | oleonard: what? |
| 17:00 | caroline | wahanui, what are you? a political leader or a conch? |
| 17:00 | wahanui | caroline: i haven't a clue |
| 17:00 | caroline | Didn't think so |
| 17:00 | * oleonard | would rather have a conch as a political leader these days |
| 17:00 | caroline | XD |
| 17:01 | you crack me up! | |
| 17:03 | ashimema | Lol |
| 17:03 | wahanui wahanui is either a political leader or a conch, some people feel there's not much difference right now | |
| 17:03 | wahanui | ...but wahanui is back??!!!... |
| 17:04 | caroline | backstreet is also back wahanui |
| 17:05 | oleonard | wahanui is also a political leader |
| 17:05 | wahanui | okay, oleonard. |
| 17:05 | oleonard | wahanui is also a conch |
| 17:05 | wahanui | okay, oleonard. |
| 17:08 | oleonard | wahanui? |
| 17:08 | wahanui | yes, oleonard? |
| 17:08 | oleonard | wahanui who are you? |
| 17:08 | wahanui | i am a political leader |
| 17:08 | oleonard | wahanui what are you? |
| 17:08 | wahanui | i am a political leader |
| 17:08 | oleonard | wahanui are you a bot? |
| 17:08 | wahanui | oleonard: no idea |
| 17:09 | caroline | wahanui are you a conch? |
| 17:09 | wahanui | wish i knew, caroline |
| 17:10 | CrispyBran | oleonard is crazy today |
| 17:10 | :) | |
| 17:10 | oleonard | I'm not the one who doesn't know if he's a bot or not. |
| 17:11 | caroline | oleonard are you a bot? |
| 17:11 | oleonard | I'm a bot created by the human oleonard to be here while the real oleonard is starting his internet cafe chain |
| 17:11 | caroline | +1 |
| 17:15 | Freddy_Enrique | jajaja |
| 17:16 | Ill give it a try... | |
| 17:16 | wahanui who are you? | |
| 17:16 | wahanui | i am a conch |
| 17:16 | Freddy_Enrique | wahanui what are you? |
| 17:16 | wahanui | i am a political leader |
| 17:17 | * Freddy_Enrique | starts thinking about the meaning of conch |
| 17:18 | Freddy_Enrique | what the.... |
| 17:22 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Add mising semi-colon to user*.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3a8627e14d879d1c0> |
| 17:22 | News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (follow-up) Add Stock Rotation atomic update schema <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a13d10ebd03d23d6b> | |
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| 18:34 | Joubu | KohaCon19 added to the Koha calendar ;) |
| 18:36 | caroline | +1! |
| 18:36 | oleonard | Not even a year away! |
| 18:36 | mtompset | @later tell ashimema refactor attempt not going smoothly for bug 15529. Have fun with it. |
| 18:36 | huginn | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:36 | * oleonard | gets a paper route |
| 18:38 | corilynn | oleonard, it doesn't pay |
| 18:38 | * oleonard | gets a paper route in 1982 |
| 18:40 | corilynn | so, everyone was all excited about signing off on my spaces at the end of the row bug... but poor bug 19263 has seen no such joy :( |
| 18:40 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, Needs Signoff , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget |
| 18:40 | * corilynn | extracts some of the whine from that last message |
| 18:41 | oleonard | corilynn: Getting a signoff within a day is fairly rare |
| 18:41 | corilynn | oleonard, but the last one I was supposed to do myself and like three people jumped on it while I was trying to get back to it... |
| 18:42 | mtompset | @seen tcohen |
| 18:42 | huginn | mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 15 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <tcohen> @seen CrispyBran |
| 18:42 | mtompset | Are you here, tcohen? |
| 18:43 | @later tell tcohen I can't get the bionic up. It dies at Gathering Facts. | |
| 18:43 | huginn | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:43 | cait | corilynn: it depends on people, who has time to look at things etc |
| 18:43 | makes it hard to calculate for | |
| 18:43 | corilynn | no worries |
| 18:43 | I'm just hoping I did it right :) | |
| 18:45 | cait | at the moment the queue is still quite long |
| 18:45 | 190 waiting for testing | |
| 18:45 | corilynn | k, I'm off to job #2 |
| 18:45 | cait | https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ - have you seen the dashboard? |
| 18:46 | ok, have a good day :) | |
| 18:46 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 18:47 | mtompset: do you have more info? are you using LOCAL_ANSIBLE? | |
| 18:47 | corilynn | I'll see if I can sign some off tomorrow |
| 18:47 | tcohen | mtompset: LOCAL_ANSIBLE=1 is mandatory for bionic |
| 18:56 | oleonard | Bye all |
| 19:06 | ashimema | Ta for adding kohacon19 to the calendar Joubu |
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| 19:30 | rangi | ashimema: https://splitter.koha-community.org/ |
| 19:30 | ashimema | ohhh |
| 19:30 | I wondered if that was you playing :) | |
| 19:31 | I notice bugzilla momentarily dissapear | |
| 19:31 | rangi, you are a star :) | |
| 19:31 | rangi++ | |
| 19:32 | * ashimema | can't remember what it was that was going to be added to that server that caused the issue in the first place.. I take it it never came to fruition |
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| 19:41 | alexbuckley | hi koha |
| 19:41 | caroline | Hi alexbuckley! |
| 19:42 | * ashimema | ducks |
| 19:42 | ashimema | hi alexbuckley |
| 19:42 | alexbuckley | :) |
| 19:42 | Joubu | Hi New Zealanders |
| 19:43 | alexbuckley | hehe hi Joubu |
| 19:58 | * Freddy_Enrique | back from duties |
| 19:58 | Freddy_Enrique | KohaCon19 stands for conference right? |
| 19:58 | 2019? | |
| 19:58 | caroline | Freddy_Enrique: yes |
| 19:59 | Freddy_Enrique | you are arranging it? |
| 19:59 | are you guys arranging it? | |
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| 20:00 | caroline | It's Interleaf technologies, Dublin Business School and PTFS-Europe who are organizing it |
| 20:00 | talljoy | hi koha |
| 20:00 | ashimema | theres a conference every year Freddy_Entrique |
| 20:00 | it rotates around the world with different voluntary hosts each time | |
| 20:01 | Freddy_Enrique | you all participate even though you are from different contries? |
| 20:02 | caroline | Freddy_Enrique: the presentations are in English, but yes, the participants are international (it's really great!) |
| 20:03 | ashimema | it's a fantastic event :) |
| 20:04 | cait | people from lots of different countries are attending, it's really great |
| 20:04 | Freddy_Enrique | uhm.... is it expensive? |
| 20:05 | sorry, maybe I shouldn't have asked that question | |
| 20:05 | ashimema | free to attend |
| 20:05 | but of course.. one has to get there ;) | |
| 20:05 | caroline | (and stay, and eat) |
| 20:05 | Freddy_Enrique | heh... |
| 20:06 | * Freddy_Enrique | takes out his calculator |
| 20:06 | ashimema | hehe |
| 20:06 | caroline | (and drink lots of beer, cause apparently, that's what we do at kohacon) |
| 20:07 | ashimema | people do it on lots of different budgets... but yeah, depending on where it is it can get expensive just finding a flight |
| 20:07 | Freddy_Enrique | O.o? well well... You got my attetion XD |
| 20:07 | ashimema | don't forget the hackfest that follows it too.. |
| 20:07 | Freddy_Enrique | what is this... hackfest? |
| 20:07 | Joubu | btw I am wondering if Dublin would have won without the Guinness tower |
| 20:07 | ashimema | lol |
| 20:08 | * ashimema | liked both locations in this round |
| 20:08 | has a slightly higher change of doing NZ in 2020 though this way around he thinks | |
| 20:08 | cait | caroline: i was so glad to have you and others joining me for icecream this year :) |
| 20:09 | caroline | cait: you can *always* count me in for ice cream (even in winter, if necessary) |
| 20:09 | cait | :) |
| 20:09 | Freddy_Enrique | you guys really meet in person... didn't you.... |
| 20:09 | cait | we did... :) |
| 20:10 | * Joubu | is wondering what he did in a previous life to have to parse XMLish with regexs... |
| 20:10 | cait | Freddy_Enrique: the conference is usually 3 days of conf with presentations |
| 20:10 | one day for some sight seeing/cultural event | |
| 20:10 | and then another 3 days of hackfest | |
| 20:10 | rangi | i want to rename the 2 bits |
| 20:11 | 1 conference | |
| 20:11 | 3 day of presentations | |
| 20:11 | cait | hackfest is where we all get together with the laptops and work on different topics in groups |
| 20:11 | rangi | 1 day social |
| 20:11 | 3 day workshops | |
| 20:11 | cos hackfest scares off non devs | |
| 20:11 | cait | sound good to me |
| 20:11 | yeah it always requires explanation | |
| 20:11 | rangi | thats my plan for 2020 anyway |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | well hackparty is kind of the intent. |
| 20:12 | better than hackathon. | |
| 20:13 | CrispyBran | anyone know if you can store your github credentials in kohadevbox environment? |
| 20:14 | Freddy_Enrique | hackfest... At first I thought I was going to see some cool stuff of how to hack someone |
| 20:14 | ashimema | workshops is a nice rename.. I'm game with that. |
| 20:14 | wizzyrea | CrispyBran, it's probably the same way you'd do it on any linux box |
| 20:15 | caroline | I thought hackfest was like live-developping a new feature with librarian saying what they want and devs coding it |
| 20:15 | wizzyrea | (idk what that is, but I'm sure it can be done) |
| 20:15 | CrispyBran | I haven't done it before |
| 20:15 | ashimema | I'm investigating getting some outside of koha devs to come along and give some talks at the 'hackfest' bit.. |
| 20:15 | currently looking at trying to talk a mojo core dev to pop along | |
| 20:15 | and maybe a dbic one.. | |
| 20:16 | CrispyBran | in the vars? |
| 20:16 | ashimema | or perhaps an elastic search guru |
| 20:16 | wizzyrea | https://stackoverflow.com/ques[…]every-time-i-push OR maybe use keys and git+ssh |
| 20:16 | https://gist.github.com/develo[…]f021eb5c5916013dc | |
| 20:16 | cait | caroline: we should totally do that! |
| 20:16 | Freddy_Enrique | Some photos of the conference and hackfest would be nice on the koha facebook profile |
| 20:17 | Last time I checked, the last publication was on 2016 | |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | it's not a place we keep stuff really. |
| 20:17 | caroline | I think davidnind took some for the twitter account |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | a blog post on the wesite might be nice |
| 20:17 | cait you sent me a url a while back, but i lost it | |
| 20:17 | caroline | Fred King did a great one with Avenging chicken |
| 20:18 | alexbuckley | agreed wizzyrea |
| 20:18 | wizzyrea | a lot of water under my bridge in the last couple of weeks |
| 20:18 | CrispyBran, those links were for you | |
| 20:18 | CrispyBran | got it. Thanks |
| 20:18 | Joubu | CrispyBran: ssh keys |
| 20:18 | Freddy_Enrique | R.I.P facebook |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | 👍 |
| 20:19 | caroline | Freddy_Enrique: we are looking for a manager for the Facebook account if you're interested https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_19.05 |
| 20:20 | * ashimema | needs to call it a night |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | (CrispyBran - all of that would need to be done inside your vagrant ssh, if that wasn't clear, unless you're using the shared repo thing) |
| 20:20 | ashimema | nighty night #koha |
| 20:20 | Freddy_Enrique | I would like it |
| 20:20 | Believe or not, Facebook is a platform that 99 of peruvians use | |
| 20:20 | I don't know if thats a good sign though | |
| 20:23 | cait | wizzyrea: sorry, do you know what link it was? |
| 20:23 | caroline | rangi for Facebook, if Freddy_Enrique wanted to manage it, would you give him the credentials? How does it work? |
| 20:23 | Freddy_Enrique | How is it in your countries, do people use it as much as mine? |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | something about kohacon |
| 20:23 | cait | ah, i think I was asking if you could link the menu item directly to: https://kohacon2018.bywatersolutions.com/ |
| 20:23 | rangi | caroline: i dont have a facebook account |
| 20:24 | cait | becuase the page still says: that's all we know for now and the wiki page it links to makes it really hard to find |
| 20:24 | caroline | rangi it says on https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]n_Social_Networks that you are admin... |
| 20:24 | rangi | i deleted it a few years ago |
| 20:24 | yeah it lies | |
| 20:24 | cait | so someone created another? |
| 20:24 | rangi | there was always more than me |
| 20:24 | caroline | ah! so we have to find someone else |
| 20:25 | rangi | nicole, mj, galen |
| 20:25 | gmcharlt: are you still admin of the koha facebook thingy? | |
| 20:25 | gmcharlt | rangi: yep, one of them |
| 20:25 | wizzyrea | cool I've just updated the page. |
| 20:25 | cait | gmcharlt: we missed you at kohacon btw |
| 20:26 | was hoping to see you again :) | |
| 20:26 | gmcharlt | cait: awww. yeah, my colleagues mentioned that to me; just tied up keeping fires burning at home, as it were |
| 20:26 | wizzyrea | better than putting out fires I guess |
| 20:27 | rangi | caroline: ive updated that page now |
| 20:28 | caroline | Freddy_Enrique: I was looking for official data, but here in Quebec it says 64% of adults use Facebook, much less than Peru (it's data from 2016 though) |
| 20:30 | Freddy_Enrique | I see... now that I think about it, Facebook has impacted South America the way people access information |
| 20:31 | caroline | Do you have a lot of problems with information accuracy (fake news)? |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | you mean propaganda? |
| 20:32 | Freddy_Enrique | Uhm, recently yes. Especially for the mayor campaigns |
| 20:32 | caroline | wizzyrea: not necessarily (for me propaganda is political, I don't know if that's right), but things like "eating bananas everyday will make you lose 10 pounds!" or "Mount XX is actually a volcano and will erupt in the next 5 years" |
| 20:33 | wizzyrea | ah I don't think of propaganda as political. |
| 20:33 | it certainly can be. | |
| 20:35 | Freddy_Enrique | I wont't deny the fact that a couple of times I saw fake news on Facebook. The term TROLLS was getting a bigt protagonism lately |
| 20:35 | TROLL* | |
| 20:38 | but for better or worse this platform has become the favorite means of information here. Second place goes for TV | |
| 20:44 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen did you fix emails on jenkins? |
| 20:44 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:51 | ashimema | Hehe |
| 20:51 | I was just wondering the same | |
| 20:52 | cait | good night all |
| 20:53 | caroline | bye cait! |
| 20:53 | Freddy_Enrique | have a good night |
| 20:53 | cait | :) |
| 21:02 | CrispyBran | @later tell tcohen everything is set, but vagrant acts like vagrant-vbguest is not installed. Can't go any further. |
| 21:02 | huginn | CrispyBran: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:14 | Freddy_Enrique | Bye all :)( |
| 21:14 | Freddy_Enrique left #koha | |
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| 22:04 | caroline | bye #koha! |
| 22:10 | CrispyBran | @later tell tcohen it looks like vagrant 2.1.3 and 2.1.4 have a bug that is not detecting the plugin at the right point, so it fails. I have to downgrade to 2.1.2 for now. I will try later. |
| 22:10 | huginn | CrispyBran: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:42 | lukeG joined #koha | |
| 22:57 | irma_ joined #koha | |
| 23:03 | Margaret joined #koha | |
| 23:26 | irma__ joined #koha | |
| 23:28 | rangi | @later tell caroline https://koha-community.org/manual/18.11/en/html/ all the pages should now have a last updated bit at the bottom |
| 23:28 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:28 | irma___ joined #koha | |
| 23:38 | mtompset | @seen tcohen |
| 23:38 | huginn | mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 50 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <tcohen> mtompset: LOCAL_ANSIBLE=1 is mandatory for bionic |
| 23:38 | mtompset | @later tell tcohen Thanks for the LOCAL_ANSIBLE=1 clue. |
| 23:38 | huginn | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:40 | mtompset | @seen CrispyBran |
| 23:40 | huginn | mtompset: CrispyBran was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 30 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <CrispyBran> @later tell tcohen it looks like vagrant 2.1.3 and 2.1.4 have a bug that is not detecting the plugin at the right point, so it fails. I have to downgrade to 2.1.2 for now. I will try later. |
| 23:42 | mtompset | Greetings, alexbuckley. |
| 23:42 | You there? | |
| 23:42 | alexbuckley | hi mtompset |
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