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| 00:00 | caroline_ joined #koha | |
| 00:01 | caroline_ | hey everybody! |
| 00:08 | dcook | salut caroline_ |
| 00:10 | caroline_ | salut dcook! |
| 00:10 | it's rare that we're on at the same time! | |
| 00:11 | dcook | It's true! What are you doing up so late? |
| 00:11 | Well and on a Sunday? | |
| 00:13 | caroline_ | meh, bf is watching tv and I'm trying to install kohadevbox on my personal computer |
| 00:13 | not with much success | |
| 00:13 | dcook | Oh tell me more? |
| 00:14 | Owen, Tomas, Mark, and I have been discussing this | |
| 00:14 | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]devbox/issues/273 | |
| 00:14 | What kind of computer do you have? | |
| 00:14 | caroline_ | stuck at "kohadevbox login: _" |
| 00:14 | macbook | |
| 00:14 | dcook | "kohadevbox login: _" |
| 00:14 | I've never heard of that | |
| 00:15 | Where are you seeing that? | |
| 00:15 | Do you run Ansible from your Mac or do you use LOCAL_ANSIBLE=1? | |
| 00:15 | caroline_ | uh... not sure...? |
| 00:15 | dcook | To which question? Heh |
| 00:16 | caroline_ | I followed the instructions on gitlab up to "vagrant up" |
| 00:16 | dcook | And after you do "vagrant up", it's prompting with "kohadevbox login: _"? |
| 00:16 | wizzyrea | yeah does it do "stuff" |
| 00:16 | before it dies? | |
| 00:16 | dcook | ^ |
| 00:16 | * dcook | waves to wizzyrea as it's been like a million years |
| 00:16 | wizzyrea | hey dcook :) |
| 00:17 | dcook | Hey ^_^ |
| 00:17 | caroline_ | I'm not sure how I got there. I did that maybe two weeks ago. And now I clicked on the VM in Virtual Box and it's just a black screen with "kohadevbox login:_" |
| 00:17 | wizzyrea | oh |
| 00:17 | you need to go into your terminal | |
| 00:18 | go into your kohadevbox directory | |
| 00:18 | and type vagrant ssh | |
| 00:18 | and it should autologin? | |
| 00:18 | cuz it sounds like it's provisioned and just sitting there, ready for you to do work :) | |
| 00:18 | dcook | ^ |
| 00:19 | caroline_ | Should I turn off the vm? |
| 00:19 | dcook | Nope |
| 00:19 | wizzyrea | naw, if you do that it won't be running anymore. |
| 00:19 | and you can't log into something that isn't there | |
| 00:19 | ^.^ | |
| 00:19 | dcook | When you click on the VM in Virtualbox, you're opening up a console through Virtualbox. But you don't need to do that. |
| 00:20 | wizzyrea | you could also try |
| 00:20 | http://localhost:8080/ | |
| 00:20 | in your browser | |
| 00:20 | it should do stuff | |
| 00:20 | caroline_ | Ah ok so once i'm in vagrantkohadevbox:~$ I can use my browser normally? |
| 00:20 | wizzyrea | you don't even have to be logged in |
| 00:20 | if the vm is up | |
| 00:21 | koha will work | |
| 00:21 | caroline_ | I don't need to open the VM and go into the browser there? |
| 00:21 | wizzyrea | no, you shouldn't |
| 00:21 | i mean | |
| 00:21 | YMMV | |
| 00:21 | but it's kinda designed to expose whatever's running on the VM to your local computer | |
| 00:21 | dcook | ^ |
| 00:21 | caroline_ | and localhost is literally "localhost" or I should sub that for something else? |
| 00:22 | wizzyrea | yep, just as noted in the docs |
| 00:22 | dcook | literally localhost |
| 00:22 | wizzyrea | https://gitlab.com/koha-community/kohadevbox it's the next step here after vagrant up :) |
| 00:22 | it'll probably (maybe?) be in maintenance mode, depending on if you've been through the installer | |
| 00:23 | which you may have done when you isntalled it weeks ago | |
| 00:23 | caroline_ | No, I didn't get to the koha interface |
| 00:23 | dcook | Yeah Virtualbox uses portforwarding to forward port 80 to localhost:8080 and port 8080 to localhost:8081 |
| 00:23 | If they're not working, you might have something else binding to those ports on your computer | |
| 00:23 | What do you see when you go to http://localhost:8080? | |
| 00:23 | wizzyrea | usually if you're watching |
| 00:24 | you can see what ports it uses when you vagrant up | |
| 00:24 | there's a command too | |
| 00:24 | to show them | |
| 00:24 | dcook | I think I've had an issue where my IIS was binding to port 8080 so kohadevbox didn't work |
| 00:24 | So I had to unbind IIS and restart my VM | |
| 00:25 | caroline_ | getting a bit too technical for me :) |
| 00:25 | dcook | Sorry ;) |
| 00:25 | What do you see when you go to http://localhost:8080 on your browser? | |
| 00:25 | In Safari or whatever it is one uses on a Mac | |
| 00:25 | wizzyrea | vagrant port in your terminal, in your kohadevbox directory, would show you what's happening with ports |
| 00:27 | caroline_ | I went to localhost:8080 and localhost:8081 in Chrome and it's just spinning |
| 00:27 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "for caroline - this is what mine looks like, and what that means in my browser." (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/109 |
| 00:27 | wizzyrea | right |
| 00:27 | you could also try | |
| 00:27 | instead of localhost | |
| 00:27 | 127.0.0.1:8080 | |
| 00:27 | 127.0.0.1:8081 | |
| 00:28 | it's possible that it didn't finish provisioning | |
| 00:28 | so is in some kind of broken state | |
| 00:28 | dcook | That'd be my guess too |
| 00:29 | wizzyrea | if you have some time, and don't have a sunk cost over this particular VM |
| 00:29 | you could destroy it and try again (that's one of the lovely things about vagrant/kohadevbox, actually - it's not a pet, it's cattle.) | |
| 00:29 | caroline_ | 8080 shows Apache page (I guess that's progress), 8081 doesn't work |
| 00:30 | :( poor cattle... | |
| 00:30 | wizzyrea | yeah that sounds like it's not fully provisioned |
| 00:30 | ehh, if it were me I'd send that one to the abbatoir. | |
| 00:30 | i mean, we can try to walk you through maybe | |
| 00:31 | caroline_ | so from vagrantkohadevbox:~$ I do vagrant destroy |
| 00:31 | wizzyrea | naw |
| 00:31 | if you type exit | |
| 00:31 | that will log you out | |
| 00:31 | it's inception terminal | |
| 00:31 | a terminal within a terminal | |
| 00:32 | once you are at something like ~/kohadevbox | |
| 00:32 | then you vagrant destroy | |
| 00:32 | caroline_ | destroying in progress |
| 00:32 | wizzyrea | if that makes sense? |
| 00:32 | yay :) | |
| 00:32 | before you vagrant up | |
| 00:32 | I'd make sure to do a git fetch in there | |
| 00:32 | to make sure you have the latest fixes to kohadevbox | |
| 00:33 | (since it's presumably been a couple of weeks since you downloaded it) | |
| 00:33 | caroline_ | pulled and now up-to-date |
| 00:33 | wizzyrea | yassss |
| 00:33 | now, you can vagrant up | |
| 00:33 | caroline_ | up in progress |
| 00:33 | wizzyrea | and just kinda watch it, and see if it poops out anywhere. |
| 00:34 | it's gonna take a bit you might want some ice cream. | |
| 00:34 | caroline_ | thx wizzyrea++ dcook++ |
| 00:34 | wizzyrea | ah you can give me karma when you can see the web installer in your browser. :) |
| 00:35 | caroline_ | you spent a lot of time walking me through, so you deserve it :) |
| 00:41 | dcook | Cattle could be pets too... |
| 00:42 | Maybe I won't tell those stories | |
| 00:42 | And no worries! | |
| 00:42 | koha-testing-docker is even more awesome... | |
| 00:42 | wizzyrea | I have a friend who raises cows, |
| 00:42 | they are both pets and cattle | |
| 00:42 | dcook | :D |
| 00:42 | wizzyrea | "they are gonna have the best life until their one very bad day" |
| 00:42 | which I think is all any of us can hope for really | |
| 00:42 | dcook | With koha-testing-docker, the provisioning happens when you build the image, so start-up time takes maybe a minute or less. It's wonderful. |
| 00:42 | Well not all the provisioning. But lots of it. | |
| 00:43 | wizzyrea: too right | |
| 00:43 | Although to each their own | |
| 00:43 | * dcook | tries to recall if caroline_ is vegetarian |
| 00:43 | caroline_ | yes :) |
| 00:43 | wizzyrea | oh I was referring broadly to the human condition |
| 00:44 | dcook | and I was agreeing wizzyrea heh |
| 00:44 | Here's hoping my one very bad day is a long ways off yet | |
| 00:44 | But I could ramble a lot about the living our best lives thing | |
| 00:44 | wizzyrea | ok, these are herbs not flowers. Chop them down any old time and grow new ones. |
| 00:45 | dcook | Nicely put |
| 00:45 | Of course now I'm hungry... oo 11:45am... | |
| 00:45 | wizzyrea | basically lunch time. |
| 00:45 | dcook | And if you use SYNC_REPO, you will have a faster vagrant up |
| 00:45 | Cloning the Koha git for each "vagrant up" is a real time killer | |
| 00:45 | wizzyrea | yeah that one does help, but can be messy for first timesrs |
| 00:45 | dcook | Truth |
| 00:46 | wizzyrea | and on a mac, and, and, and |
| 00:47 | caroline_ | my colleague blou did my install on my work computer, so I didn't have to worry about that |
| 00:47 | But I wanted to try some things out of work hours | |
| 00:47 | wizzyrea | fair enough :) |
| 00:48 | caroline_ | at least now, ~1 yr later, I know basic git and terminal use |
| 00:48 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 00:49 | dcook | :D |
| 00:49 | wizzyrea | it's not exaggeration to say that when you use git with koha |
| 00:50 | you kind of start at pro mode. | |
| 00:50 | dcook | basic git and terminal use is basically my life |
| 00:50 | wizzyrea | we ask all the hard things straight from the get go. |
| 00:50 | dcook | ^ |
| 00:50 | wizzyrea | it's gotten better over time with gitbz and devbox |
| 00:51 | dcook | Sooo true |
| 00:51 | caroline_ | I don't disagree :) But I signed up for it knowing I wasn't super linux/oss geek |
| 00:51 | wizzyrea | but you're still git fetch && git rebase origin/master and git checkout -b bug-xxxxxxx |
| 00:51 | dcook | I feel like it was a baptism by fire back in the day |
| 00:51 | caroline_ | I'm a long way from children's librarian :) |
| 00:51 | dcook | heh |
| 00:51 | Yeah, when I started on Koha, I'd just installed Linux for fun at home like 3 months before starting my job working on Koha | |
| 00:52 | Actually, I didn't even install it | |
| 00:52 | wizzyrea | I had literal 0 experience with git when I started. |
| 00:52 | dcook | My girlfriend of the time bought a Ubuntu computer from someone |
| 00:52 | Yeah I had 0 experience with git | |
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| 00:52 | dcook | I think rangi and jcamins taught me everything I knew about git at the start |
| 00:52 | wizzyrea | literal 0 about perl in itself. |
| 00:52 | dcook | ^ that too |
| 00:52 | wizzyrea | (stuff about other languages but not perl) |
| 00:53 | caroline_ | I hope to be as good as you when I grow up :) |
| 00:53 | wizzyrea | pf |
| 00:53 | you're probably better already. ;) | |
| 00:53 | dcook | It just comes with practice and experience |
| 00:53 | wizzyrea | ^ |
| 00:53 | * dcook | has an English BA, a French certificate, and a Librarianship masters |
| 00:53 | wizzyrea | and poking your nose into it until it makes sense. |
| 00:53 | dcook | ^ |
| 00:54 | That was the advice I just wrote to David Nind about Docker on the listserv | |
| 00:54 | I think koha-testing-docker was my first time using Docker? | |
| 00:54 | wizzyrea | tbh I hate docker |
| 00:54 | dcook | But then I have done more with Docker at home and at work apart from that |
| 00:54 | :O | |
| 00:54 | I love Docker so much | |
| 00:54 | wizzyrea | it messes up the networking on my computer |
| 00:54 | dcook | Really? |
| 00:54 | wahanui | hmmm... Really is good to have josef_moravec back.. always get a boost from seeing a bunch of signoffs :) |
| 00:54 | wizzyrea | and I don't have time for that crap. |
| 00:54 | dcook | Weird |
| 00:54 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 00:54 | caroline_ | what is the difference between devbox and docker? |
| 00:54 | dcook | I haven't had that problem at all but that would suuuuck |
| 00:54 | wizzyrea | basically, if you need to be able to ssh from outside of your machine |
| 00:54 | dcook | caroline_: Different underlying technologies |
| 00:55 | wizzyrea | putting docker on messes it up |
| 00:55 | caroline_ | but basically the same use? |
| 00:55 | dcook | wizzyrea: That's very odd as I have no problems with that on servers or desktops :S |
| 00:55 | wizzyrea | has happened to a bunch of people here |
| 00:55 | dcook | Recently? |
| 00:55 | wizzyrea | last 6 month |
| 00:55 | s* | |
| 00:55 | dcook | caroline_: basically it's ways of encapsulating apps yeah |
| 00:56 | caroline_: Running code in a system within a system kind of | |
| 00:56 | More inception heh | |
| 00:56 | wizzyrea: That's super interesting. I'll keep an eye out for that. | |
| 00:56 | wizzyrea | inception servers |
| 00:56 | (everything is basically inception servers now though) | |
| 00:56 | dcook | Yarp |
| 00:57 | wizzyrea | I try not to think too hard about it |
| 00:57 | unless I need to for some reason. | |
| 00:57 | dcook | Basically, kohadevbox leverages Virtualbox for virtualization |
| 00:57 | That creates an entire system within a system | |
| 00:58 | Totally separate from the host system | |
| 00:58 | Whereas Docker re-uses the kernel of its host so it only separates some things | |
| 00:58 | It makes for a faster more efficient system | |
| 00:59 | Kernel being... kind of like the brian | |
| 00:59 | brain* | |
| 00:59 | (And Docker for Windows cheats) | |
| 00:59 | koha-testing-docker is awesome, but kohadevbox is the most ubiquitous so probably the best to know and use | |
| 01:20 | caroline_ | Is "Clone repository" supposed to take very long? It's been stuck there for at least 15 minutes |
| 01:20 | I wish it were more verbose... like 0-100% | |
| 01:20 | at least I'd know it's working and not frozen | |
| 01:21 | dcook | Yeah "Clone repository" can take a super long time |
| 01:21 | I think it once took me nearly an hour? | |
| 01:21 | caroline_ | ok thx :) |
| 01:21 | dcook | That was with I think a 20Mbps download speed |
| 01:22 | caroline_ | ooh... So I better not kill my VMs too much then |
| 01:22 | wizzyrea | caroline_, this bit only happens when you provision the first time |
| 01:22 | definitely don't close your laptop | |
| 01:22 | just leave it up and go to sleep :) | |
| 01:22 | caroline_ | can it go in sleep mode? |
| 01:22 | wizzyrea | mm probably better not to |
| 01:23 | caroline_ | ok, I'll plug it in to make sure it stays awake long enough |
| 01:23 | dcook | Yeah once it's finished and you're ready to stop for the day, run "vagrant halt" I believe |
| 01:23 | And that will gracefully shut it down until next time | |
| 01:23 | But yeah the time involved with kohadevbox is what I don't like | |
| 01:24 | We were saying how you can make it faster with a more advanced configuration | |
| 01:24 | But probably worthwhile to become a kohadevbox pro and then move on to more advanced configuration | |
| 01:24 | caroline_ | yeah... baby steps |
| 01:33 | dcook | Oooh /var/log/apt/term.log is so cool :3 |
| 01:33 | And yep! All about the baby steps! | |
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| 02:03 | caroline_ | :O https://snag.gy/1aTAmd.jpg \o/ |
| 02:03 | dcook | Hurray! |
| 02:04 | wizzyrea | hey nice :D |
| 02:08 | caroline_ | yay! I'm in! thx wizzyrea++ and dcook++ :D |
| 02:08 | dcook | You did all the hard work :) |
| 02:09 | rangi | dcook: did you know jessie is doing a talk about her regrets about containers at kiwicon? |
| 02:09 | caroline_ | Just so I know for next time, when I'm finished, I enter "exit", then when I want to go back I do "vagrant ssh" and then open my regular browser to localhost:8081 |
| 02:09 | rangi | dcook: https://kiwicon.org/the-con/talks/#e278 |
| 02:10 | dcook | rangi: Nope. I just remember kiwicon being finished and then hearing that it was starting up again? |
| 02:10 | wizzyrea | you don't technically have to vagrant ssh |
| 02:10 | dcook | ^ |
| 02:10 | rangi | caroline_: you should do vagrant halt to shut it down, and vagrant up again (unless you want to leave it running, it doesnt take long to start back up and it reclaims a bunch of ram) |
| 02:10 | wizzyrea | you just have to vagrant up |
| 02:11 | rangi | exit will just get you out of the ssh, but it will be still running, unless you do a vagrant halt |
| 02:11 | and it gets kinda confused sometimes if you suspend your machine | |
| 02:11 | caroline_ | ok so when I'm done: vagrant halt (I miswrote that as vagrant halp); when I want to go back: vagrant up |
| 02:11 | dcook | ^ |
| 02:12 | wizzyrea | that's right |
| 02:12 | dcook | rangi: Just read the abstract. Sounds super interesting. |
| 02:12 | caroline_ | +1 thank you! |
| 02:12 | going to bed, but will start experimenting soon :) | |
| 02:13 | wizzyrea | sleep well. |
| 02:13 | caroline_ | nice talking to you guys! |
| 02:13 | dcook | rangi: So what's the story about kiwicon? It's a thing once again? |
| 02:14 | rangi | at least for this year |
| 02:14 | who knows if it is again next year | |
| 02:14 | dcook | Hmm |
| 02:16 | "Note that this is a Friday and Saturday, not a week day or just on a weekend as per some other ‘cons. We're good like that." | |
| 02:17 | rangi | im pretty sure it's sold out already |
| 02:19 | dcook | I wouldn't be surprised |
| 02:19 | Makes decision-making that much easier ^_^ | |
| 02:19 | I'm still debating LCA2019... | |
| 02:19 | Also these FAQ are really cracking me up | |
| 02:29 | rangi: So you're presenting with your dad? | |
| 02:30 | rangi | yep, altho he might have to be on video as im not sure hes gonna be in the country |
| 02:32 | dcook | Ahh sounds like a neat talk in any case |
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| 04:07 | paxed | @wunder joensuu |
| 04:07 | huginn | paxed: Joensuu, Finland :: Clear :: 28F/-2C | Wind Chill: 22F/-6C | Monday: Sunny skies during the morning will give way to cloudy skies and light rain late. High 41F. Winds S at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Monday Night: Cloudy. Periods of rain early. Low 36F. Winds SSW at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 90%. |
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| 05:50 | fridolin | hi there |
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| 06:09 | calire | morning #koha |
| 06:12 | m23 | morning claire |
| 06:14 | calire | o/ |
| 06:16 | dcook | I don't often upgrade databases, but when I do... |
| 06:16 | hey calire \o | |
| 06:17 | The update for 3.14.02.001 and 3.15.00.006 are the same.. | |
| 06:17 | So if you're upgrading 3.14.02.001... you're going to get an error :S | |
| 06:17 | Well a warning at least I guess | |
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| 06:17 | dcook | Safe to ignore I suppose.. |
| 06:19 | calire | hey dcook |
| 06:19 | dcook | How's it going? |
| 06:20 | Need to fix one permission issue and then this database should upgrade.. | |
| 06:20 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 06:20 | dcook | heya magnuse |
| 06:21 | magnuse | howdy dcook |
| 06:21 | dcook | oh wait not permissions... foreign issue. Yuck.. |
| 06:23 | calire | dcook, good thanks ... monday |
| 06:23 | hi magnuse | |
| 06:23 | dcook | calire: I hear that |
| 06:23 | * dcook | is counting down the minutes until the end of the day |
| 06:23 | calire | I could do that but it's be a long count ^^ |
| 06:23 | dcook | Well cursing relational databases and counting |
| 06:24 | heh no kiding | |
| 06:24 | kidding* | |
| 06:24 | magnuse | Guten Morgen calire |
| 06:24 | dcook: not too far to count, perhaps? | |
| 06:24 | dcook | Not at all |
| 06:33 | Hurray. foreign key issue was due to the collation in update_database.pl not being up-to-date. Weee. | |
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| 06:38 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:46 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:07 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 07:23 | ashimema | Mornin' #koha |
| 07:24 | marcelr | o/ |
| 07:24 | calire | hi marcelr, ashimema |
| 07:25 | marcelr | hi calire |
| 07:25 | ashimema | calire 😀 |
| 07:26 | * ashimema | feels like the pushed to master list is never ending at the moment.. must be a release coming up.. |
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| 08:01 | ashimema | anyone know if there's a general effort going on to work through this tree: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]raph.cgi?id=20654 |
| 08:02 | marcelr | bug 20654 |
| 08:02 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20654 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Omnibus: Update two-column templates to use Bootstrap grid |
| 08:02 | calire | ashimema, when patches appear I try to sign off yes |
| 08:02 | was off last week though ;) | |
| 08:03 | ashimema | coolios calire |
| 08:04 | I don't really have any more room on my queue.. so I'm really glad someone is continueing to work through them :) | |
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| 08:04 | ashimema | be nice to get the whole set in for 18.11 rather than having a half finished UI switch :) |
| 08:05 | * andreashm | waves |
| 08:18 | calire | ashimema, ok I'll try and get some more sign offs done |
| 08:18 | ashimema | hehe |
| 08:18 | sorry.. that wasn't a complaint | |
| 08:18 | calire | ;) |
| 08:18 | no, they are on my to do list | |
| 08:18 | ashimema | I'll happily follow you along with QA's ;) |
| 08:19 | * ashimema | wants to keep oleonard motivated |
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| 08:37 | andreashm | guten morgen liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen |
| 08:37 | calire | ;) |
| 08:38 | andreashm | :P |
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| 08:59 | paxed | ha. loc.gov marc21 format page gives internal server error :D |
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| 09:10 | marcelr | bug 21336 is ready to go again |
| 09:10 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21336 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , GDPR: Handle unsubscribe requests automatically by optional lock, anonymize and remove |
| 09:13 | magnuse | calire++ ashimema++ |
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| 09:48 | RudyW | Hi ashimema and kidclamp, here my update regarding ldap |
| 09:48 | you were right, after adding <anonymous_bind>0</anonymous_bind> to the config file ldap with AD is now working fine | |
| 09:50 | ashimema | glad it worked RudyW |
| 09:50 | Joubu around per chance? | |
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| 11:03 | Arthur_ | Hi everyone! |
| 11:06 | ashimema | bug 21247 |
| 11:06 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21247 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Cannot add more than one emoji across the entire database as a tag |
| 11:06 | magnuse | ...so choose wisely ;-) |
| 11:06 | ashimema | am I being daft.. how does one 'add an emoji to a biblio in the OPAC' |
| 11:06 | magnuse | as a tag? |
| 11:07 | ashimema | what.. a MARC tag? |
| 11:07 | magnuse | no tagging, folksonomy |
| 11:07 | s/no/no:/ | |
| 11:07 | at least i think that is what is meant, havn't really looked at the bug | |
| 11:08 | ashimema | aha.. one has to enable that |
| 11:10 | Arthur_ | Hi guys, anyone know what might be the issue when i'm creating the lxc package, I get following error: "Error creating container u1" |
| 11:11 | magnuse | ashimema: looks like the default is on: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]90f6;hb=HEAD#l558 |
| 11:11 | ashimema | ta magnuse |
| 11:11 | magnuse | np |
| 11:12 | ashimema | perhaps.. this was an upgraded system |
| 11:12 | all good.. i manged to replicate it on master | |
| 11:12 | going through my 18.05.x search on bugzilla and setting to master it if applies there too | |
| 11:13 | (and fixing the easy ones as I go along 😉 ) | |
| 11:18 | Arthur_ | as far as i can find Eclipse is the best IDE for koha |
| 11:18 | really can't create package for it :/ | |
| 11:18 | * ashimema | just uses vim |
| 11:21 | * paxed | uses emacs |
| 11:24 | Arthur_ | i'm fairly new in development, can anyone help me out with this? |
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| 11:28 | * magnuse | uses gedit |
| 11:29 | ashimema | basically what we're all saying is that we use a text editor rather than an IDE |
| 11:29 | in my experience to date.. there isn't really an IDE that makes sense for perl development (though of course one can add lots of fancy plugins to bring your favourite IDE features into your prefered text editor) | |
| 11:30 | what sort of development are you hoping to do on Koha? | |
| 11:30 | might help us advice | |
| 11:30 | Arthur_ | the basic configuration, modifying something etc |
| 11:35 | ashimema | personally.. I'd just start with a lightwieght editor.. atom or something if you're a more gui minded person |
| 11:38 | Arthur_ | sweet thank you |
| 11:38 | another question | |
| 11:38 | so i'm used to use oracle sql developer, and maybe TOAD. how can i see my TNS in order to access my newly created database? If i don't want to terminal for this | |
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| 11:46 | Arthur_ | Right so i've got Atom. Now i need to access source files for koha |
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| 12:35 | kidclamp | Ere++ |
| 12:38 | ere | Whee! |
| 12:39 | kidclamp: On a related note, would you be able to address the review comments in bug 18316 sometimes in the nearby future? | |
| 12:39 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18316 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , Add weighting/relevancy options to ElasticSearch |
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| 12:47 | ashimema | kidclamp |
| 12:47 | wahanui | somebody said kidclamp was getting the queue as clean as possible before Kohacon |
| 12:47 | ashimema | I just pushed a patch you might want to cherry-pick ;) |
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| 12:47 | kidclamp | holiday for us today, only slightly around |
| 12:47 | bug number? | |
| 12:47 | ashimema | looks like a rebase error crept in somewhere |
| 12:47 | it's the very tip of my branch | |
| 12:48 | a followup I wrote | |
| 12:48 | Bug 21352: (qa followup) - correction to testplan | |
| 12:48 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21352 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Allow plugins to add CSS and Javascript to Staff interface |
| 12:48 | * LeeJ | waves |
| 12:48 | LeeJ | hi #koha |
| 12:48 | ashimema | it'll make Jenkins happy again on your branch ;) |
| 12:49 | that's assuming you've not already fixed it locally and just have't pushed up yet ;) | |
| 12:49 | go enjoy your holidayt and ignore me though ;) | |
| 12:50 | * ashimema | likes to see a sea of green on the dashboard.koha-community.org |
| 12:53 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 21352: (QA follow-up) - correction to testplan <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]75f4710de0886c7a7> |
| 12:53 | ashimema | :D |
| 12:54 | kidclamp | will try ere, unless alex_a_ is working on it? |
| 12:54 | i'm off :-) | |
| 12:56 | LeeJ | even though for 99% of the country considers today a holiday, I work for a Catholic university so we're unfortunately business-as-usual today :) |
| 13:01 | ere | kidclamp: Oh, right, have a nice holiday! |
| 13:09 | LeeJ | @later tell kidclamp tomorrow or whenever...can you add a heading for the release notes Enhancements? There's one for New features but not for Enhancements that I've been able to find :) |
| 13:09 | huginn | LeeJ: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:15 | tcohen | bonjour |
| 13:15 | LeeJ | #endmeeting |
| 13:24 | * ashimema | wonders if it's just him being picky when it comes to bug 17311 |
| 13:24 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17311 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , koha-common service should be restarted on upgrade |
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| 13:37 | magnuse | ashimema: nah, the maintenance message is there for a reason :-) |
| 13:37 | if plack is stopped it just gives an error or something? | |
| 13:37 | ashimema | likely a 503 or other unformatted server error |
| 13:38 | I think | |
| 13:38 | I might be getting it wrong.. I don't think we fall back to cgi errors if plack has gone away do we? | |
| 13:38 | tcohen might know? | |
| 13:41 | tcohen | 503 |
| 13:41 | ashimema | so yeah.. I don't think I'm being too mean then :) |
| 13:41 | though I have no idea what the best alternative solution would be either :( | |
| 13:41 | tcohen | should we add a 'Maintenance mode' functionality and use it? |
| 13:41 | ashimema | doing it all in the post inst perhaps |
| 13:42 | tcohen | koha-maintenance $(koha-list --enabled) |
| 13:42 | ashimema | huh.. there's already such functionality isn't there? |
| 13:42 | oh.. you mean at the package level somehow do you? | |
| 13:42 | * ashimema | needs more :tea: |
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| 13:57 | tcohen | ashimema: I mean for packages, so we call it from the pre/post install scripts |
| 13:57 | I would like drojf and magnuse to weight in | |
| 13:57 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:06 | tcohen | and I mean koha-maintenance —enable|—disable $(koha-list --enabled) |
| 14:11 | ashimema | is the almightly oleonard here? |
| 14:12 | usa too.. likely no holibobs | |
| 14:12 | ere | kidclamp: ..and, uh, sorry, I should have asked alex_a_ about bug 18316 but looked at the assignee of another bug or something |
| 14:12 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18316 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , Add weighting/relevancy options to ElasticSearch |
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| 14:15 | alex_a_ | ere, ? |
| 14:15 | ask! | |
| 14:15 | (hello :)) | |
| 14:17 | ere | alex_a_: Julian had some comments that need to be addressed, it seems. |
| 14:17 | alex_a_: Hi! :) | |
| 14:18 | alex_a_ | ere, yes i saw that |
| 14:18 | ere | alex_a_: So what I was supposed to ask it you'd have an estimate when you could check those out. It's just that it's functionality that we'd really like to have. :) |
| 14:18 | alex_a_ | It's in my todo list |
| 14:19 | ere | alex_a_: Ok, perfect. Just wanted to know that it hasn't slipped the radar. |
| 14:19 | alex_a_ | ere, work on it this week |
| 14:20 | ere | alex_a_++ |
| 14:33 | * ashimema | wonders wether it's safe to dig into bug 20244 yet |
| 14:33 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20244 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Signed Off , Elasticsearch - Indexing improvements |
| 14:35 | * ashimema | realises he just confused bug 20244 with bug 19893 |
| 14:35 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19893 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, Failed QA , Alternative optimized indexing for Elasticsearch |
| 14:39 | corilynn | usa isn't totally on 'holibobs' :) learned a new word... |
| 14:40 | ashimema | lol |
| 14:40 | very british colquealism there corilynn | |
| 14:41 | corilynn | yeah, i looked it up on urban dict :) Anyway, my hubs and I have to work, but our kid is off school. it's a randomly given holiday |
| 14:42 | so, I'm looking at bug 19263 | |
| 14:42 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget |
| 14:43 | corilynn | the first line in the "failed QA" message is "Please add the new authorised value category to the default list and add a database update." can someone point me to a fixed bug that does that so I can poke around? |
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| 14:57 | ashimema | brb.. then I'll try to dig such a bug out for you |
| 15:01 | corilynn | ashimema, I found bug 13379 ... I think what I need to do is update installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/bug_XXXXX.perl where XXXXX is my bug |
| 15:01 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13379 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, authorised_values.category is varchar(16) |
| 15:02 | ashimema | er.. sort of |
| 15:02 | corilynn | ok, i'll await your details |
| 15:04 | ashimema | trying to find a sort of sensible one is the challenge ;) |
| 15:04 | corilynn | i can imagine |
| 15:05 | ashimema | bug 5670 adds one.. but it's in the middle of adding a load of other stuff ;) |
| 15:05 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5670 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, RESOLVED FIXED, Housebound Readers Module |
| 15:05 | ashimema | bug 9468 also does it |
| 15:05 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9468 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, CLOSED FIXED, Add ability to hide itemtypes from purchase suggestions forms |
| 15:06 | ashimema | looks like new auth values haven't been added for ages! |
| 15:08 | corilynn | I think I get it... I'm sure someone will steer me if I flub it |
| 15:08 | ashimema | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]/Database_updates - should help in terms of how to code it |
| 15:08 | i.e using the modern 'atomic updates' workflow | |
| 15:08 | and is similar to the bug you found first as an example | |
| 15:08 | the two I linked to give more of an idea of how the db update sql itself might look | |
| 15:08 | hope that helps | |
| 15:09 | corilynn | yes, immensely |
| 15:10 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:25 | CrispyBran | Bug 21503 |
| 15:25 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21503 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cbrannon, Needs Signoff , Update AuthorisedValues.pm to fall back to code if description doesn't exist |
| 15:26 | * CrispyBran | waves |
| 15:26 | CrispyBran | Welcome feedback on bug 17854 |
| 15:27 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17854 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cbrannon, Signed Off , Print Slip and Close button |
| 15:28 | ashimema | that's a ternary and a half there CrispyBran |
| 15:31 | I bet you don't happen to have a copy of PBP available to you do you? | |
| 15:31 | page 31 gives a reasonable hint on how to format that a little more nicely | |
| 15:32 | https://books.google.co.uk/boo[…]20columns&f=false | |
| 15:42 | tcohen | ashimema: it seems koha-disable does the 'under maintenance' trick |
| 15:43 | ashimema | cool |
| 15:43 | tcohen | the only problem is you might have some instances disables |
| 15:43 | disabled on purpose | |
| 15:43 | and you don't want them enabled | |
| 15:43 | in postinst | |
| 15:43 | so we need a way to filter them out | |
| 15:46 | * ashimema | continues on his mission to get the SO queue down to below 70 before clocking off.. |
| 15:47 | ashimema | need a couple of trivial ones.. not got long to go |
| 16:30 | corilynn | bug 19263 ... not 100% sure I did that right, but i'm willing to listen to feedback |
| 16:30 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, ASSIGNED , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget |
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| 17:10 | ashimema | @later tell ere is bug 19365 effectively blocked by bug 19893 at the moment.. just trying to understand the flow for so/qa ;) |
| 17:10 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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| 17:52 | CrispyBran | @later tell Joubu When you get a chance, please look at bug 21503 and sign off if you think it looks good. Thank you! |
| 17:52 | huginn | CrispyBran: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:04 | tcohen | CrispyBran: why does it say '17.05' instead of master? |
| 18:04 | ashimema | CrispyBran did you see my comments regards that bug earlier.. just some hints on better formatting |
| 18:06 | CrispyBran | tcohen: no clue. Just set it to master now. |
| 18:06 | tcohen | excellent |
| 18:06 | wahanui | darn tootin' it is. |
| 18:08 | CrispyBran | ashimema: simply expanded on Joubu's work. Seems everyone has a preference about it and I can't satisfy everyone. |
| 18:08 | tcohen | CrispyBran: I think you should start on a clean master branch, and try to write a test for the new behaviour, in t/db_dependent/Template/Plugin/AuthorisedValues.t |
| 18:08 | I can help | |
| 18:12 | CrispyBran | tcohen: Do you mean include test plan for old behaviour before patch? |
| 18:13 | tcohen | ideally there should exist unit tests for the current behaviour, so you just go and tweak the tests so they 'expect' the new behaviour, then change the code (as you did) and check the tests now pass |
| 18:14 | but there aren't tests for GetDescriptionByKohaField | |
| 18:14 | I will write the tests for the current behaviour | |
| 18:14 | and you change them, ok? | |
| 18:14 | CrispyBran | Thanks. I have no idea what any of that means. It has never been explained. |
| 18:14 | tcohen | ok |
| 18:14 | this is called test-driven develo,pment | |
| 18:15 | so | |
| 18:15 | before writing the actual 'code change' | |
| 18:15 | you write some 'test' (you code it) that checks (as a blackbox) if the method behaviour is the one you want | |
| 18:15 | for example | |
| 18:16 | calling the GetDescriptionByKohaField method with some parameters | |
| 18:16 | as, for example, an authorized value that doesn't have a description | |
| 18:17 | and expect it to return the same value you passed instead of the empty string | |
| 18:18 | is(Koha::Template::Plugin::AuthorisedValues->GetDescriptionByKohaField('non_existent_thing'), 'non_existent_thing', 'If the required authorised value has no description, the same value is returned'); | |
| 18:18 | ^^^ that'd be a test | |
| 18:20 | CrispyBran: does it make sense? | |
| 18:20 | CrispyBran | Yeah, I guess this is something new I need to learn. Someone is going to have to walk me through that process or point me to documentation on it. Where do these tests live and how are they implimented? |
| 18:20 | tcohen | you're familiar with kohadevbox of course |
| 18:20 | if you go into kshell | |
| 18:21 | you can try running some test | |
| 18:21 | prove t/db_dependent/Koha/Patrons.t | |
| 18:21 | so, inside the t/ dir, there are the tests | |
| 18:21 | what I thought is I could write the tests for the current behaviour | |
| 18:22 | attach it to the bug | |
| 18:22 | so master + the tests patch will pass | |
| 18:22 | i.e. running the tests will return 'green' | |
| 18:22 | then you apply your patch, you will notice they fail | |
| 18:22 | ('red') | |
| 18:23 | you then go tweak the tests to match the new behaviour with my aid | |
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| 18:31 | CrispyBran | tcohen: forgive my ignorance. How do I get in a kshell? |
| 18:31 | Need to add this to my notes. | |
| 18:32 | Wait | |
| 18:33 | I think I have it. | |
| 18:39 | tcohen | from the vagrant user |
| 18:39 | you usually run | |
| 18:39 | sudo koha-shell kohadev | |
| 18:39 | or just use the handy alias: kshell | |
| 18:40 | CrispyBran | tcohen: looking at the test. Interesting. I have no clue how to begin writing tests. |
| 18:41 | need to see some documentation or tutorials | |
| 18:50 | tcohen | CrispyBran: this one is specially difficult, not the best to start with |
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| 18:55 | Joubu | tcohen: I disagree :) It seems to be pretty easy |
| 18:56 | At least a good candidate to understand why tests are useful, and how we should cover all the different cases | |
| 18:56 | corilynn | Joubu! when you have a minute... |
| 18:56 | Joubu | I just had a quick look, maybe I missed something |
| 18:56 | I have 2! | |
| 18:57 | corilynn | oh excellent! I just fixed a bug 19263 I'd love to know all the ways I flubbed it |
| 18:57 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, Needs Signoff , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget |
| 18:57 | corilynn | starting with the paperwork :) I tested it on sandbox 14 |
| 19:00 | Joubu | corilynn: ok, I will give you feedback in a comment on the bug report |
| 19:00 | corilynn | kewl-e-o, Joubu |
| 19:03 | Joubu | corilynn: did you take into account the second point of comment 4? |
| 19:04 | corilynn | yes, sorta... |
| 19:04 | if you don't have a 001 field the widget doesn't show | |
| 19:05 | if you DO have a 001 field, the widget will show (like 008 etc does) | |
| 19:05 | oh, i'm re-reading the comment and I think I get it more now | |
| 19:05 | Joubu | ok, I was just looking at your patch (the second one) and just saw changes to 2 files |
| 19:06 | tcohen | Joubu: I think it is a good example, yes. But |
| 19:06 | corilynn | Katrin is saying that you should check to see if there are entries in authorised_values and if not then don't show the widget? |
| 19:06 | tcohen | GetDescriptionByKohaField requires existing mappings on the frameworks |
| 19:06 | so the tests are easy but preparing the ground isn't | |
| 19:06 | Joubu | corilynn: that's what I understand, yes |
| 19:06 | corilynn | Joubu, my patch fixed 1 and 3 in Katrin's comments |
| 19:07 | tcohen | that's why I was proposing to write the basis so CrispyBran writes his tests |
| 19:07 | * ashimema | often finds the preparing the grounds step the hardest part when writing tests for koha |
| 19:07 | Joubu | tcohen: yep but we have tests doing that already, so CrispyBran will have to find a mimick them ;) |
| 19:07 | corilynn | Joubu, fail it then, I'll see if I can fix it |
| 19:07 | Joubu | ashimema: we have TestBuilder to help us ;) |
| 19:08 | ashimema | Indeed.. it's easier than it used to be |
| 19:08 | CrispyBran | I am so lost now. |
| 19:08 | tcohen | CrispyBran: don't listen to Joubu and you'll be fine |
| 19:08 | Joubu | that's expected if you are starting with tests :D |
| 19:08 | ashimema | Hehe |
| 19:09 | Joubu | lol |
| 19:09 | corilynn | thx muchly Joubu! |
| 19:09 | Joubu | you are welcome |
| 19:09 | corilynn | although, I thought I did start my commit message with Bug 19263 |
| 19:09 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, Failed QA , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget |
| 19:11 | Joubu | corilynn: "Bug 19263: " |
| 19:11 | corilynn | ah, missing colon |
| 19:11 | sooooo close... | |
| 19:11 | Joubu | corilynn: did you run the QA tests? They should have caught that |
| 19:12 | corilynn | Yeah, but I didn't "get" it |
| 19:12 | I'm like... it's there! | |
| 19:14 | Joubu | corilynn: do you have a suggestion to make it more explicit? |
| 19:14 | corilynn | I'll think on it |
| 19:15 | It's all just getting used to stuff. I haven't been a developer in 5 years, and I've only used git cursorily | |
| 19:28 | * cbrannon[A] | is now away - Reason : With a patron |
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| 19:31 | * CrispyBran | is no longer away : Gone for 3 minutes 39 seconds |
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| 19:46 | rangi | morning |
| 19:54 | * CrispyBran | has a brain that is melting trying to understand tests |
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| 20:05 | * cbrannon[A] | is now away - Reason : Lunch |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | hi |
| 20:37 | corilynn | Joubu... you still there? |
| 20:38 | anyone... what do I do if the koha-qa.pl says fail? | |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | well, you can run koha-qa with verbose |
| 20:38 | and it will tell you more about the failures | |
| 20:38 | corilynn | oh |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | and then you fix them :) |
| 20:54 | corilynn | wizzyrea, thx! they were easy fixes :) |
| 20:54 | wizzyrea | \o/ awesome |
| 20:57 | corilynn | wizzyrea, when I do a git bz attach -e <num> HEAD it's not automagically changing the bug to "Needs Signoff", what am I flubbing? |
| 21:15 | * CrispyBran | is no longer away : Gone for 1 hour 10 minutes 4 seconds |
| 21:16 | waves | |
| 21:17 | * corilynn | does the one-woman stadium wave |
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| 21:24 | CrispyBran | corilynn: you need to remove the hash (#) in front of that status when you edit (-e). |
| 21:32 | * corilynn | smacks head |
| 21:32 | corilynn | thx CrispyBran |
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