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| 03:16 | wizzyrea | @later tell eythian http://nerdist.com/babymetal-i[…]mated-web-series/ I know how much you love them ^.^ |
| 03:16 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:17 | dcook | The world is a strange place |
| 03:27 | wizzyrea | lol why |
| 03:29 | dcook | Babymetal just in general :p |
| 03:30 | And really just everything :p | |
| 03:33 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
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| 06:38 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:38 | wahanui | hola, reiveune |
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| 06:39 | fridolin | hie |
| 06:40 | * dcook | waves |
| 06:43 | asgeirr | Hi |
| 06:44 | Is there any way I can set up Koha so that search for an ISBN _without_ seperators matches a record where ISBN is registered _with_ seperators? | |
| 06:45 | So, I have a MARC record has ISBN "978-1-84739-407-1" in 020, and I want to retrieve it by using a barcode scanner that enters "9781847394071" | |
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| 06:50 | dcook | asgeirr: I imagine so |
| 06:50 | Does that not happen aleady? | |
| 06:50 | Also, where are you searching? | |
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| 07:01 | Joubu | @later tell khall i've just seen your entry in the hk16 topics. Could you please try to provide a complete example of React before the hk? |
| 07:01 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:04 | asgeirr | dcook: Free text catalogue search in staff interface. Also qualified search 'nb:9781847394071' or advanced search with '9781847394071' in ISBN field misses |
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| 07:07 | drojf | morning #koha |
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| 07:13 | dcook | asgeirr: That's interesting |
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| 07:13 | dcook | You should ask again now and in a few more minutes as more Europeans come online :) |
| 07:13 | Here in Australia, it's time for me to head hooome | |
| 07:14 | drojf | the question i'd like to be asked is "would you like some coffee" |
| 07:14 | i hope it was about that | |
| 07:22 | dcook | hehe |
| 07:22 | I always forget to offer as I don't drink coffee O_O | |
| 07:23 | eythian | @later tell wizzyrea so, like, https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]NYdaU8TLHxN3aXfxH |
| 07:23 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:24 | * dcook | waves to eythian |
| 07:24 | dcook | And I'm off |
| 07:24 | eythian | hi dcook |
| 07:24 | bye dcook | |
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| 07:35 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:41 | drojf | hi eythian and gaetan_B |
| 07:41 | who is going to do an introduction to the french language before or at the hackfest btw? | |
| 07:42 | or is "bonjour" enough? | |
| 07:46 | gaetan_B | bonjour should be more than enough :) |
| 07:46 | "un pastis s'il vous plaît" might be helpful too ;) | |
| 07:47 | eythian | it was all s'il te plaît when I was there :) |
| 07:47 | I learnt how to order lunch in french very quickly. | |
| 07:48 | (or is that a formal/informal distinction?) | |
| 07:48 | also, hi drojf and gaetan_B | |
| 07:49 | gaetan_B | yes it's more formal with "vous", i wouldn't order at a restaurant using "tu" but that's probably just me being a parisian snob |
| 07:49 | drojf | lol |
| 07:50 | i understand the pastis sentence. that means i am ready to go \o/ | |
| 07:51 | Joubu | s/pastis/verre de vin blanc |
| 07:51 | drojf: for you | |
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| 07:51 | drojf | thanks :D i still try to figure out what alcohol base is used for pastis |
| 07:53 | Joubu | drojf: wikipedia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastis#Composition |
| 07:54 | drojf | "base alcohol" could be anything |
| 07:55 | that is the part i'd like to know ;) | |
| 07:56 | Joubu | in French "alcool neutre d'origine agricole" |
| 07:57 | drojf | yep. could be anything |
| 07:57 | Joubu | which would mean something like "neutral alcohol from agricultur" |
| 07:57 | drojf | yes |
| 07:57 | Joubu | yes :) |
| 07:57 | eythian | wahanui: crash is <reply>https://media.giphy.com/media/[…]St5vNoQ/giphy.gif |
| 07:57 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 07:57 | drojf | i think i asked the german importer about it and never got an answer |
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| 07:57 | drojf | or i was just planning to |
| 07:57 | lol | |
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| 08:27 | Joubu | I don't really understand why everybody is asking about Elastic Search, but nobody wants to test the only feature ready to test on bugzilla... |
| 08:27 | drojf | heh |
| 08:28 | (for me it's no time :/ ) | |
| 08:28 | i postpone everything™ to the hackfest | |
| 08:28 | Joubu | I don't really understand why everybody is talking about Elastic Search but nobody wants to fix the ES issues, like a quite important one: the indexes are not present in the DB for new installs... |
| 08:29 | well, I guess people are expecting to me to fix them | |
| 08:30 | drojf | you can't fix and test and qa |
| 08:30 | you should be cloned. that would solve everything | |
| 08:31 | Joubu | A funny fix would be to make it dependent on the feature :D |
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| 08:45 | mtj | hi #koha |
| 08:46 | hey Joubu, i was testing 17196... | |
| 08:46 | ..i hit a little problem around editing/saving a bib | |
| 08:47 | other than that, it seems to be working really well :0) | |
| 08:48 | Joubu | mtj: what is the problem? |
| 08:49 | wahanui | https://i.imgur.com/sguSwlh.jpg |
| 08:49 | mtj | i used Marcel's 16733 patch to test the repo's koha-rebuild-zebra |
| 08:50 | hmm, no saving functionality, when using the marc editor | |
| 08:52 | Joubu | @later tell rangi should not we move Koha/ElasticSearch/Indexer.pm to Koha/SearchEngine/Elasticsearch/ ? |
| 08:52 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:53 | mtj | the 'prove' tests all work, after the patchs are applied |
| 08:54 | .. and i notice some of those ./t tests have ModBiblio() calls | |
| 08:55 | eythian | Joubu: that probably should be renamed, yeah |
| 08:55 | moved, rather | |
| 08:55 | iirc it was just where it went to start with and it never got shifted. | |
| 08:56 | Joubu | eythian: ok thanks for the confirmation |
| 08:57 | mtj: do you get DBIx::Class::Schema::source(): Can't find source for BiblioMetadata at Koha/Objects.pm line 266? | |
| 08:57 | you need to rebuild the schema files | |
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| 09:12 | mtj | Joubu, yeah, i have already done that step |
| 09:13 | np, i will add my info to the BZ | |
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| 09:42 | Joubu | eythian: our QA script raises a spelling error: Sheat ==> Sheath, sheet, cheat ;) |
| 09:43 | eythian: do you know what is the correct spelling for ES? ElasticSearch or Elasticsearch? | |
| 09:43 | it seems that elastic.co uses Elasticsearch | |
| 09:44 | but Catmandu uses ElasticSearch | |
| 09:45 | eythian | Used to be ES, now it's Es I think |
| 09:45 | Joubu: your script needs some QA :) | |
| 09:46 | PAUSE doesn't handle changing capitalisation well at all too, I think they tried to rename it but it caused problems, or something along those lines | |
| 10:02 | mtj | hiya eythian, hope you are doing well over there :) |
| 10:03 | eythian | Hi mtj. Yeah, it's good here :) |
| 10:16 | Joubu | eythian: could I get your opinion on bug 5670 comment 66? |
| 10:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5670 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Signed Off , Housebound Readers Module |
| 10:17 | Joubu | additional almost always null columns vs DB schema normalisation |
| 10:19 | mtj | eythian: same old, same old, back here in wgtn... including the weather :p |
| 10:19 | eythian | I tend to go for normalisation, keeping fairly separate concerns in separate places. |
| 10:20 | mtj: heh, I think summer is about to run out here too, though it's been unseasonably warm this month so far. | |
| 10:20 | Joubu | eythian: yep same for me, thanks (again) |
| 10:20 | eythian | NP :) |
| 10:21 | drojf | is there a secret place to set up actual classifications in koha that i am missing? or can i just enter names for classifications and filing rules, but not define anything? |
| 10:23 | i remember diving into some file that probably was DDC and had mappings. but that was years ago and would have required hacking your own file back then. at least as i understood it | |
| 10:23 | so i wonder if i miss something obvious ;) | |
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| 10:44 | mtj | peeps, im off to bed |
| 10:44 | Joubu: i left some info on the marcxml bug, hope it makes sense | |
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| 10:49 | Joubu | mtj: thx |
| 11:18 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15903 - Remove use of recordpayment in paycollect.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f5b23efcf7298b3d9> / Bug 15902 [QA Followup] - Use Koha::Patrons instead of Koha::Borrowers <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f4b897c5c82798508> / Bug 15902 - Remove use of recordpayment in process_koc.pl <http://git.koha-commun |
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| 11:28 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15899 - Remove C4::Accounts::recordpayment <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f7a0c8b2c5ac7198f> / Bug 15899 - Fix up unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0deefcf93c9e204ae> |
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| 12:00 | oleonard | Oh this is new. Someone put in the phone number field of this patron record: "phonenumber" |
| 12:01 | drojf | makes sense |
| 12:02 | oleonard | That's even better than my previous favorite: "Same as above." Like, you have just typed more characters than you would have if you'd just Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V from above. |
| 12:03 | drojf | lol |
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| 12:07 | kidclamp | mveron++ |
| 12:08 | drojf | @seen mveron |
| 12:08 | huginn | drojf: mveron was last seen in #koha 5 weeks, 0 days, 4 hours, 49 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <mveron> Hi #koha |
| 12:08 | drojf | :/ |
| 12:08 | working in the underground | |
| 12:08 | mveron++ | |
| 12:08 | kidclamp | heh |
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| 12:20 | rsantellan | good morning #koha |
| 12:40 | Joubu | rsantellan: Hi! Are you still looking at ES patches to test? :) |
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| 12:41 | Joubu | tcohen: hi! |
| 12:41 | Does ES work with kohadevbox? | |
| 12:41 | rsantellan | Joubu: yes, I have working now with 1.7 but 2.4 is a welcome change |
| 12:42 | Joubu | rsantellan: bug 14899 is waiting for testers for months. If you are willing to test it, you are more than welcome :) |
| 12:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14899 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Mapping configuration page for Elastic search |
| 12:47 | rsantellan | Joubu: I will try to check it out, did I need to install another dependencies? |
| 12:48 | Joubu | rsantellan: you will need to apply the patches from bugs listed in the "depends on" field |
| 12:50 | rsantellan | okay |
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| 13:37 | tcohen | morning |
| 13:38 | Joubu: hehe | |
| 13:38 | Joubu | Does ES work with kohadevbox? |
| 13:39 | tcohen | it should |
| 13:40 | Joubu | tcohen: I really don't know how it could actually |
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| 13:40 | Joubu | I have just fixed the installer issue this morning |
| 13:40 | tcohen | kohadevbox takes care of having ES available, and the relevant entry in koha-conf.xml |
| 13:41 | if it doesn't work, it wouldn't be a kohadevbox specific issue IMHO | |
| 13:41 | Joubu | ok but the mapping tables are empty |
| 13:41 | so no reindexing and not search | |
| 13:41 | tcohen | so it should work with that patch :-D |
| 13:42 | Joubu: would you agre with something like this? | |
| 13:42 | OPACProto :// OPACBaseURL / OPACBasePath | |
| 13:42 | and the same for intranet | |
| 13:42 | Joubu | basepath==/cgi-bin/koha? |
| 13:42 | tcohen | yeah |
| 13:42 | pick a beter name he | |
| 13:42 | it would default to cgi-bin/koha | |
| 13:43 | Joubu | context? :) |
| 13:43 | tcohen | but I'm sick of this problems we have |
| 13:43 | hardcoding cgi-bin/koha everywhere | |
| 13:43 | otherwise having problems under plack | |
| 13:43 | Joubu | I don't have such problems under plack :) |
| 13:44 | tcohen | http://bmayor.biblio.unc.edu.a[…].pl?verb=Identify |
| 13:44 | look at the links | |
| 13:44 | I'm sure you have that problem | |
| 13:45 | Joubu | What am I suppose to have wrong? |
| 13:45 | tcohen | the links |
| 13:45 | wahanui | the links are only based on the $9. |
| 13:45 | tcohen | Identify, etc |
| 13:45 | Joubu | ok |
| 14:02 | tcohen | minutes? |
| 14:02 | wahanui | minutes are on the wiki page |
| 14:08 | Joubu | "Too much data for control field" does someone know what this error mean? |
| 14:09 | Well, it means there are too much data for a control field, but in which cases it happens? | |
| 14:09 | tcohen | control fields are special fields, with width constraints |
| 14:09 | :-P | |
| 14:12 | Joubu | it should contain 4 characters, it does not seem very wide |
| 14:15 | tcohen | blame LoC LOL |
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| 14:43 | kidclamp | Joubu: I am just going to be thinking about elasticsearch muppets all day now |
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| 14:48 | * magnuse | waves |
| 14:51 | tcohen | hi magnuse |
| 14:52 | magnuse | kia ora tcohen |
| 14:53 | Joubu | kidclamp: elasticsearch muppets? |
| 14:53 | kidclamp | mappings - meppings - muppets |
| 14:53 | Joubu | eythian: Can I continue to bother you with ES stuffs? |
| 14:54 | kidclamp: haaa :) | |
| 14:54 | will have to rebase the other one btw | |
| 14:54 | eythian | Joubu: you can ask, but a) I'll be coming and going, and b) it's been nearly a year since I've done serious work on it, so I may not be too much help. |
| 14:56 | Joubu | eythian: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]heads/master#l363 |
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| 14:56 | Joubu | you wrote: should not be <5 |
| 14:57 | but actually MARC::Field accepts 2 and only 2 params for controlfield | |
| 14:57 | so I think there is something wrong with controlfield management, but not sure at which level | |
| 14:58 | eythian | hmm, it might be that control fields were/are being ignored either on the way in or the way out. |
| 14:59 | or the marc json format has 5 fields anyway for them. | |
| 14:59 | It's possible that control fields weren't supported when I wrote that. | |
| 14:59 | Joubu | but line 368 my $marc_field = MARC::Field->new(@$field); |
| 14:59 | fail with 5 params | |
| 15:00 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:00 | Joubu | eythian: ok, I will continue the debug to better understand it |
| 15:00 | eythian | then it's probable that it needs support for control fields added. I'd start by seeing how they get serialised into JSON and working from there. |
| 15:10 | Joubu | eythian: it fixes the search results link on my unimarc D |
| 15:10 | DB | |
| 15:10 | \o/ | |
| 15:10 | eythian | cool :) |
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| 15:40 | schnyd | Hi all! How do I add include_items: 1 in conf file as described in bug 12252? I'm trying to make work items to show in OAI-PMH |
| 15:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12252 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, CLOSED FIXED, OAI-PMH GetRecord result doesn't include item data |
| 15:44 | Joubu | thanks kidclamp! There is another one on bug 17377 if you like :) |
| 15:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17377 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , ES - Take control fields into account |
| 15:45 | kidclamp | hitting 16588 and then will try that |
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| 15:53 | lcg | hi there, does anyone know where to locate specific information about import errors when staging a MARC file for import? |
| 15:54 | i staged a file with around 7500 records, but 5 were dropped due to a MARC error. I suspect there are tags in those records which aren't used in the default framework, but I have no idea which of the 5 records are the problem | |
| 15:55 | any help would be much appreciated! Google has located a few others with a similar problem, but no resolutions | |
| 15:57 | schnyd | oopss got it guys.. :) cheers! |
| 15:57 | Joubu | schnyd: what do you mean? Edit it, if it's empty, add the line, otherwise... |
| 15:57 | ok too late :) | |
| 15:57 | lcg: something in the Koha log file? | |
| 16:00 | schnyd | yeah I added it and called it from Conffile :) |
| 16:01 | got it already, thanks! | |
| 16:07 | lcg | yeah, when i staged the import and it gives you the stats it says "5 records not staged because of marc error" |
| 16:08 | but i'm not certain as to which 5 records it is | |
| 16:11 | Joubu | lcg: do you have any kind of errors in the Koha log file? |
| 16:16 | lcg: are you a developper or an user? | |
| 16:18 | lcg: I have to go sorry. If you are a dev, and you are not in production you can try: | |
| 16:18 | 450 use Data::Dumper;warn Dumper \@invalid_records; | |
| 16:18 | in C4::ImportBatch::BatchStageMarcRecords just before the return | |
| 16:19 | it will print in the koha logs the records in failure | |
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| 16:25 | lcg | hey, my apologies, just had 4 calls in a row here at work |
| 16:25 | i'll be back in a moment, i appreciate the help! | |
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| 17:55 | lcg | ok, thanks for the help. I managed to track down the 5 rows. I ran a query of the original ILS database against what was in the koha database post-import and managed to locate the 5 records that were missing. |
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| 19:21 | rangi | @later tell joubu hmm maybe, but I quite like have the indexing separate from the searching how it is now |
| 19:21 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:22 | rangi | @later tell joubu im not sure we would gain anything moving it? |
| 19:22 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:23 | rangi | and morning everybody :) |
| 19:23 | @later tell joubu but I dont mind either way really :) | |
| 19:23 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:51 | eythian | rangi: my thinking was that keeping all the engine specific stuff in one place makes it nice and discoverable and modular. |
| 19:52 | (not that I exactly have a horse in the game :) | |
| 19:52 | rangi | makes sense |
| 19:52 | eythian | In the distant future you could have search engine plugins... |
| 19:53 | rangi | *nod* |
| 20:03 | magnuse | rangi++ for looking at bug 13029 |
| 20:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13029 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Allow to pass additional parameters to SMS::Send drivers |
| 20:04 | rangi | so, when someone does a tarball install |
| 20:04 | where does their config end up | |
| 20:04 | just in /etc/koha/ ? | |
| 20:06 | magnuse | rangi: think so |
| 20:06 | the INSTALL file says to do "sudo zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" for example | |
| 20:06 | rangi | right |
| 20:06 | so we know where the config file is | |
| 20:07 | how about we put the path to the yaml file in the config? | |
| 20:10 | * magnuse | will take joann to see viking ships tomorrow |
| 20:10 | magnuse | have fun #koha! |
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| 20:24 | rocio | a spback |
| 20:26 | wizzyrea | hi |
| 20:26 | wahanui | bonjour, wizzyrea |
| 20:27 | rangi | rocio: a spback to you too |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | joubu++ |
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| 23:50 | dcook | hey wizzyrea: you know those new Windows 10 updates? They totally include a bash shell |
| 23:50 | Accidentally just ran a shell script when I was trying to open it in notepad >_> | |
| 23:51 | No wonder the updates took bloody forever | |
| 23:53 | Actually... that was in Windows 8 | |
| 23:53 | I didn't think WIndows 8 was getting the bash shell... | |
| 23:55 | Ahhh it was the git bash... | |
| 23:56 | moving on... |
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