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| 00:28 | mtj | i have an curious question about applying patches... |
| 00:29 | ..why is it that sometimes when a patch wont apply, you get the option of attempting to apply it manually | |
| 00:29 | .. but other times, you dont get the option?! | |
| 00:30 | i guess its the patch tool, having more success with one patch, over another? | |
| 00:36 | herm, i think i just answered my question :) | |
| 00:44 | ooh, git apply -v is good, i'm learning stuff | |
| 00:45 | dcook | wizzyrea: Definitely creepy |
| 00:47 | mtj | agree :) |
| 00:49 | dcook | Speaking of patches, you got to love when an update breaks something on your computer... |
| 00:53 | wizzyrea | was it windows 10? because I have a windows 10 machine at home (for games! Don't judge me!) that just won't update and I'm about to throw it out our (very high) window. |
| 00:53 | dcook | wizzyrea: yep, windows 10 |
| 00:54 | In my case, it just uninstalled my display adapter driver and replaced it with a faulty one... | |
| 00:54 | In its defence, it technically is an unsupported driver... but it works well | |
| 00:55 | Actually, I think it tried to install a driver which didn't exist, and then it took me it had no drivers installed.. | |
| 00:55 | Also this is a work machine (Don't judge me!) | |
| 00:55 | Of course, at the exact same time, my Debian box was having the longest fsck of all time | |
| 00:55 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 00:55 | I'm sorry, I'm completely 12 inside. | |
| 00:55 | dcook | I didn't try the Ubuntu laptop because I was given a baby when it was clear I wasn't able to use either desktop |
| 00:55 | wizzyrea | my first thought was "how nice for it!" |
| 00:55 | dcook | lol |
| 00:56 | I did interrupt it a few times, but that just made it go longer! | |
| 00:56 | I was all "Debiannnnn let me go out and play..." | |
| 00:56 | wizzyrea | #realproblems |
| 00:56 | dcook | yep |
| 00:56 | Of course, now that my computer is back online, all I can do is whinge about how it was offline :p | |
| 00:57 | Oh, and my smart power strip isn't being so smart... | |
| 00:57 | It won't activate 3 plugs until the master plug draws a certain amount of power | |
| 00:57 | wizzyrea | ... |
| 00:57 | dcook | And... the master plug is working and surely the computer is drawing enough power but the rest of the plugs aren't switching on |
| 00:58 | Which has happened before... and seemed to magically fix itself... | |
| 00:58 | wizzyrea | I don't even know what to say about that. |
| 00:58 | dcook | Maybe I should get a new power strip? |
| 00:58 | And maybe I should look at my desktop's power supply... | |
| 00:59 | wizzyrea | I don't understand the purpose of that kind of smart powerstrip |
| 00:59 | what is the (intended) purpose? How is it *supposed* to work? | |
| 00:59 | dcook | In theory, you save power when your master plug does off |
| 00:59 | The whole phantom load thing | |
| 00:59 | wizzyrea | oh so like |
| 00:59 | dcook | For instance, my washing machine sometimes makes a really loud buzz when it's turned off |
| 01:00 | wizzyrea | if you have a computer, and a bunch of peripherals |
| 01:00 | dcook | But if I turn it off at the wall, the buzz goes away. I assume it's doing something with some power even when it's "off" |
| 01:00 | wizzyrea | you can automatically cut power to the peripherals when the computer is off |
| 01:00 | dcook | Yep |
| 01:00 | wizzyrea | that's a sensible thing. |
| 01:00 | dcook | That's what I was thinking |
| 01:00 | Although in hindsight, I'm probably not saving that much power by doing it | |
| 01:00 | wizzyrea | I wonder if it's something like a software update has changed the power saving modes |
| 01:01 | dcook | Well, the power strip is for the Debian computer |
| 01:01 | wizzyrea | so it's not, say, pulling so much power at any given moment. |
| 01:01 | dcook | The Windows computer is on a dumb strip |
| 01:01 | I'm wondering if maybe the power supply is failing and its not drawing as much power? | |
| 01:01 | wizzyrea | yeah could be. |
| 01:06 | dcook | TFW a product's discount price is the same as what the normal price used to be... |
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| 01:18 | dcook | :3 |
| 01:18 | I know people hate smartphones, but it's pretty cool when your wife takes a video of your baby crawling and sends it to you over the air | |
| 01:18 | I'd never seen them crawl before :3 | |
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| 01:27 | jcamins | eythian++ # for working at the site that enabled me to book my apartment in Cordoba |
| 01:32 | dcook | booking.com++ |
| 01:35 | wizzyrea: Of course, there's always Occam's razor. The male plug for the master female slot wasn't in all the way. | |
| 01:36 | In enough to draw power to itself, but probably not far enough in to connect whatever circuit it needed to connect I'm guessing | |
| 01:45 | wizzyrea | who hates smartphones? |
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| 01:52 | dcook | wizzyrea: I don't know. Humans of some kind. |
| 01:53 | They're ruining the world and such | |
| 01:53 | The other day, I was in the elevator and everyone was staring at their smartphones, and I thought... | |
| 01:53 | How nice is it that we don't have to force small talk where we all just laugh uncomfortably | |
| 01:54 | It's a building of many small offices, so it's not like any of us really know each other anyway | |
| 01:54 | Although... one time someone did make small talk and I said something about having never noticed them before | |
| 01:54 | And they mentioned that they see me every day ont he way to work O_O | |
| 01:54 | wizzyrea | eek |
| 01:56 | dcook | Yeah, I think we're all probably watched more than we realize O_O |
| 01:56 | But not in a tin foil hat kind of way :p | |
| 01:56 | wizzyrea | heh. |
| 01:56 | oh, probably in the tin foil hat kind of way too. | |
| 01:56 | dcook | haha. probably. |
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| 03:10 | tcohen | yo |
| 03:23 | wizzyrea | hi |
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| 06:23 | fridolin | hie |
| 06:31 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:32 | starts the trek south to meet joann in an hour | |
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| 06:52 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:52 | wahanui | salut, reiveune |
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| 07:38 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:38 | wahanui | salut, gaetan_B |
| 08:39 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen on bug 17318 I'm just asking for info, not for a follow-up ;) |
| 08:39 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 08:54 | drojf | morning #koha |
| 09:02 | eythian | jcamins++ for paying a tiny fraction of my salary ;) |
| 09:59 | * drojf | throws cookies |
| 10:02 | drojf | not even cookies work. what is wrong with you people? :( |
| 10:10 | * Joubu | has already plenty of cookies |
| 10:14 | drojf | sorry, i did not know there is excessive cookie supply already, i would have brought something else |
| 10:14 | but mine are gluten free and extra dry. lol | |
| 10:16 | Joubu | chocolate would work better, for sure |
| 10:22 | * drojf | makes a note |
| 10:23 | drojf | how is french chocolate? |
| 10:23 | i think i will bring haribo winegums for the hackfest | |
| 10:38 | Joubu | drojf: I am from Belgium, I won't say anything about French chocolate... |
| 10:38 | drojf | heh |
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| 11:19 | * Tylathos | waves |
| 11:20 | eythian | drojf: you should swing by here and get a Dutch bike lock ;) |
| 11:20 | drojf | i just got a german bike lock |
| 11:21 | and no swinging time :/ | |
| 11:24 | eythian | yes, you had a german bike lock and your bike got stolen. |
| 11:31 | drojf | :( |
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| 12:08 | eythian | @later tell wizzyrea https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSec[…]80863124547047424 |
| 12:08 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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| 12:31 | nengard | @later tell tgoat thanks!! I haven't seen it yet |
| 12:31 | huginn | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:32 | nengard | paul_p!!!!! |
| 12:32 | wahanui | paul_p is, like, the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall, and does not like coffee |
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| 12:35 | cait | :D |
| 12:44 | nengard | cait!! |
| 12:45 | * cait | is a happy today |
| 12:45 | cait | hi nengard |
| 12:45 | :) | |
| 12:45 | nengard | :) |
| 12:47 | Tylathos | hi cait :) |
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| 12:52 | * magnuse | waves from joann's first talk in norway :-) |
| 12:53 | * cait | waves back |
| 12:53 | cait | hope it goes well! |
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| 13:13 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 13:14 | eythian | hi oleonard |
| 13:14 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
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| 13:32 | nengard | hiya oleonard |
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| 13:48 | Joubu | @later tell khall please have a look at bug 17368 and the PR for koha-plugin-kitchen-sink |
| 13:48 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 14:03 | sophie_m | lds : les mentions "déménagement" dans le page https://wiki.biblibre.com/doku[…]e_upgrade:2016:10 elles ont du sens ? c'est pas déménagement pour tous les hébergés ? |
| 14:03 | sorry wrong chan :-[ | |
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| 14:20 | oleonard | Librarians here: "What is this error I'm getting on the cataloging page?" Me: "You accidentally switched to the advanced editor." Them: "Oh, so how do I make the error go away?" |
| 14:20 | M: "It's not an error, it's a MARC editor." Them: "Never mind, the error fixed itself." | |
| 14:21 | kidclamp | hah |
| 14:22 | oleonard | On the other hand, the "real" catalogers (those not just doing fast cataloging) are excited about the advanced editor. |
| 14:23 | It'd be nice to be able to set a patron-level permission on use of the advanced editor | |
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| 14:25 | kidclamp | oleonard - you aren't the first to say so |
| 14:26 | oleonard | Am I at least in the top 5? Top 10? |
| 14:26 | CrispyBran | kidclamp |
| 14:26 | wahanui | well, kidclamp is a stealthy spy from the realm of mutant turtles. |
| 14:27 | CrispyBran | good morning |
| 14:27 | wahanui | well, it's morning somewhere, yes |
| 14:27 | CrispyBran | do you know if the sandboxes are out of order? I can't seem to get any to work. |
| 14:28 | kidclamp | all three providers? |
| 14:30 | CrispyBran | BibLibre is non-responsive, and ByWater form for setup appears differently and doesn't do anything after filling out the form. It says it does, but nothing happens. PTFS Europe looks like it might be working, on the second one, but the first one looks like ByWater's. |
| 14:32 | kidclamp | ByWater I can ping Kyle tomorrow, he set them up and I haven't had a chance to look into setup - others you would have to ask BibLibre or PTFS - I don't rememebr seeing anything on the lists |
| 14:33 | but you should have your VM setup CrispyBran ;-) | |
| 14:35 | CrispyBran | DON'T get me started on the VM. :) |
| 14:37 | oleonard | CrispyBran: ? |
| 14:37 | CrispyBran | kidclamp, do you know if VALNet has their plack activated, and if so, do they have the proper setting in the config set that we were missing? |
| 14:37 | oleonard? | |
| 14:37 | wahanui | oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 14:37 | oleonard | CrispyBran: Is your VM a sore subject? |
| 14:38 | Joubu | CrispyBran: sandbox1 from PTFS-E looks ok |
| 14:38 | CrispyBran | yes |
| 14:38 | Joubu | there is something wrong on the setup page, the CSS is not there, but otherwise the form does what it is supposed to do |
| 14:39 | "The current setup on this sandbox is = Sandbox setup by unknown with database 1 and bug on Wed Sep 28 14:36:42 2016" | |
| 14:39 | http://kohastaffsandbox.ptfs-e[…]n/koha/sandbox.pl | |
| 14:40 | atheia: I may have kicked your install, sorry :-/ | |
| 14:41 | CrispyBran | Okay, I just tried sandbox 1 for ByWater, and nothing is happening. I just tried sandbox 1 for PTFS Europe, and it says I have set it up, but nothing is happening. Staff interface is still install screen. |
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| 15:04 | drojf | @wunder marseille |
| 15:04 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Lotissement le Pitalugue, Vitrolles, France is 26.8°C (4:55 PM CEST on September 28, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:05 | drojf | oh wow |
| 15:05 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 15:05 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 20.0°C (4:50 PM CEST on September 28, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:05 | drojf | feels like 10 |
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| 15:10 | drojf | is there a sane way to overwrite (not add) items from a mrc file? i think the web thingy only allows add or ignore? |
| 15:16 | oleonard: i am still waiting for a library to celebrate the advanced cataloguing editor. so far i usually have to explain marc basics | |
| 15:17 | (we still have lots of libraries on MAB, the german predecessor) | |
| 15:17 | kidclamp | drojf - there is an option for 'Replace items if matching bib was found' |
| 15:17 | drojf | kidclamp: ah there is? then i must have missed it (i did not need it before). thats awesome! thanks |
| 15:17 | kidclamp | I think bib has to match and barcode for the item |
| 15:17 | drojf | perfect |
| 15:17 | koha++ | |
| 15:17 | kidclamp++ | |
| 15:18 | kidclamp | you can also do it via marcedit- in that case I think biblionumber/itemnumber must match |
| 15:21 | rsantellan | Hi, is there a way on koha 16.05 to fallback on the searches to db? |
| 15:21 | I only have the zebra or elasticsearch options | |
| 15:27 | atheia | Joubu No problem — was just testing housebound stuff :-) |
| 15:27 | CrispyBran are still having issues with the PTFS sandboxes? I try to maintain them and was just using them successfully. | |
| 15:27 | Let me know if you want a hand! | |
| 15:33 | kidclamp | rsantellan, you mean like performing a mysql search? that is not an available option |
| 15:33 | but you can do that via reports | |
| 15:34 | rsantellan | kidclamp, I will have to work harder to make zebra work then. |
| 15:34 | I can't seem to load any data in zebra | |
| 15:34 | kidclamp | zebra running? |
| 15:34 | is zebra running? | |
| 15:35 | * kidclamp | was hoping for this: http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/stat[…]-1335553706-6.gif |
| 15:36 | rsantellan | is running, but I can't find any record. I have run rebuild_zebra.pl multiple times and nothing |
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| 15:36 | rsantellan | my zebra is taking a break I believe :) |
| 15:39 | if I start in one console zebra (zebrasrv -f $KOHA_CONF) and run sudo ./koha-rebuild-zebra -f koha in another there is no log that is doing anything on zebra server | |
| 15:40 | kidclamp | try stopping and restarting zebra |
| 15:40 | sudo koha-stop-zebra koha | |
| 15:40 | sudo koha-start-zebra koha | |
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| 15:46 | rsantellan | is running, but I can't find any record. I have run rebuild_zebra.pl multiple times and nothing |
| 15:46 | I just pass the -v flag to see what is happening | |
| 15:47 | kidclamp | sorry rsantellan, not sure of the issue, anything in logs? |
| 15:48 | rsantellan | not, nothing on the logs! that is the problem, there is nothing on the logs and the search don't return anything |
| 15:49 | CrispyBran | atheia: sandbox 1 shows that I set it up, but if you go to staff you can see that it is not. |
| 15:51 | atheia | CrispyBran I will investigate. Would you mind trying sandbox 0 instead for now to see if yo uhave the same issue there? |
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| 15:52 | atheia | Joubu added some notes on Housebound. Hope they help you understand what's going on :-) |
| 15:52 | CrispyBran I will investigate. Would you mind trying sandbox 0 instead for now to see if yo uhave the same issue there? | |
| 15:52 | (in case you missed that because of temporary departure from channel) | |
| 15:53 | CrispyBran | Trying it now. |
| 15:56 | rsantellan | kidclamp: the log says that Records exported: 82988 has been exported to zebra and 15:54:34-28/09 zebraidx(3487) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) |
| 15:56 | CrispyBran | atheia: sandbox 0 works. Appears to be the ONLY sandbox working today. |
| 15:56 | rsantellan | kidclamp: doing a search return a 15:55:38-28/09 zebrasrv(4) [warn] ir_session (exception) on the output.log |
| 15:57 | atheia | CrispyBran Good to know, will see if I can update the database in sandbox 1 |
| 16:03 | kidclamp | mveron++ |
| 16:24 | atheia | CrispyBran please let me know when you're done testing, so I can have a quick play around with the sanbox 0 too. |
| 16:32 | CrispyBran nm, fixed sandbox 1 now — thanks for your report! | |
| 16:32 | CrispyBran++ | |
| 16:57 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:10 | drojf | anyone using 952$f for anything? it is supposed to be non repeatable but it keeps adding fields when i use it |
| 17:12 | i can't delete the last one either. it just keeps the value | |
| 17:16 | ok, it does not approve entering a value and then changing the framework to use an authorized value. that might be a problem for all of those fields | |
| 17:27 | CrispyBran | atheia++ |
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| 19:15 | * cait | waves |
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| 19:41 | rangi | morning |
| 19:41 | ohh look its the new german LibraryClaire ! | |
| 19:42 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
| 19:42 | rangi | heya oleonard |
| 19:42 | wahanui | oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 19:44 | LibraryClaire | o/ |
| 19:44 | hi rangi | |
| 19:46 | was checking the fridge was turned on :D | |
| 19:46 | * LibraryClaire | is not good at adulting |
| 19:47 | rangi | hehe, was it? |
| 19:48 | LibraryClaire | I think so, but I think it wasn't on as cold as I expected. some poking at cables was done etc |
| 19:48 | * cait | waves :) |
| 19:48 | * LibraryClaire | waves |
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| 19:48 | drojf | hi. is the meeting now or in an hour? |
| 19:49 | cait | rangi: i think she was always a bit german :P |
| 19:49 | rangi | i think 1 hour |
| 19:49 | drojf | oh ok i think i won't make it |
| 19:49 | cait | too tired? |
| 19:49 | rangi | is that right cait ? |
| 19:49 | drojf | yep |
| 19:49 | cait | tsk |
| 19:49 | * oleonard | might make it to the first part, not sure |
| 19:50 | drojf | how many parts are there? |
| 19:51 | cait: other people complain if it is not during their 9 to 5 work hours :P | |
| 19:51 | my work hours are 0 to 24 unfortunately :( | |
| 19:51 | oleonard | drojf: If I'm there, that's the first part. When I leave, that's the second part. |
| 19:51 | cait | until we all live in one timezone.. that imght get a little hard |
| 19:51 | maybe we should buy an island | |
| 19:51 | drojf | oleonard: ah, yes |
| 19:51 | cait | an all move there :) |
| 19:52 | drojf | reichenau? |
| 19:52 | cait | not sure that would be affordable... also cold in winter |
| 19:52 | but good veggies | |
| 19:52 | drojf | veggies? what do they grow there? |
| 19:53 | LibraryClaire | vegetable island! |
| 19:55 | cait | hm almost everything i tihnk |
| 19:56 | oleonard | If we lived on vegetable island we would live in perpetual fear of invasion from Japan's Rabbit Island. |
| 19:56 | drojf | and then we could eat rabbits. finally |
| 19:56 | cait | ew |
| 19:57 | CrispyBran | hasenpfeffer? |
| 19:59 | eythian | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Bonaparte <-- this guy might invade though |
| 20:00 | (search for rabbit in the page) | |
| 20:12 | * cait | might fall asleep during th emeeting |
| 20:12 | cait | someone willing to chair/co-chair? |
| 20:13 | * LibraryClaire | is jetlagged |
| 20:13 | cait | @excuse |
| 20:13 | huginn | cait: My excuse for today is "tsunamis in the wave-division multiplexer" |
| 20:14 | cait | hm, it's just late here :) |
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| 20:49 | LibraryClaire | night #koha |
| 20:49 | rangi | cya LibraryClaire |
| 20:53 | * rangi | grabs a coffee before the meeting |
| 20:53 | cait | ah, now i missed her |
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| 20:54 | * drojf | grabs a bed before the meeting |
| 20:55 | mkuhn | * puts a perl under the mattress of drojfs bed |
| 20:56 | cait | heh |
| 20:56 | let's see if he is a real programmer and feels it? | |
| 20:57 | mkuhn | hm, wasn't that about seven perls, or even seven mattresses? |
| 20:57 | cait | i think one pea |
| 20:57 | and lots of mattresses? | |
| 20:58 | mkuhn | ok, i know about ruby and python and perl, but never heard of pea ;-) |
| 20:58 | cait | get ready, grab a coffee - meeting in 2 mins |
| 21:00 | let's start | |
| 21:01 | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 28 September 2016 | |
| 21:01 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Sep 28 21:01:02 2016 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 21:01 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 21:01 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 28 September 2016) | |
| 21:01 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_28_september_2016' |
| 21:01 | cait | #topic Introductions |
| 21:01 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 28 September 2016) | |
| 21:01 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 21:01 | cait | today's agenda: |
| 21:01 | rangi | #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst NZ |
| 21:01 | cait | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]28_September_2016 |
| 21:01 | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany | |
| 21:02 | noone else? | |
| 21:03 | rangi | heh |
| 21:03 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 21:03 | mkuhn | #info |
| 21:03 | cait | cozy meeting |
| 21:03 | Joubu | (more or less aroud) |
| 21:04 | mkuhn | #info Michael Kuhn (will now keep quiet and listen only) |
| 21:04 | cait | meeting with 4? |
| 21:04 | rangi | just go super fast |
| 21:05 | cait | ok |
| 21:05 | Joubu | I don't have much to say and it's a bit late here ;) |
| 21:05 | cait | #topic annoucnments |
| 21:05 | Topic for #koha is now annoucnments (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 28 September 2016) | |
| 21:05 | drojf | if it only takes 5 minutes i am here too |
| 21:05 | cait | same here |
| 21:05 | so introduce yourself! | |
| 21:05 | any announcements? | |
| 21:05 | drojf | hm no i am afraid you will make me chair |
| 21:05 | cait | not from me |
| 21:05 | drojf | :P |
| 21:05 | rangi | we are doing work on bug 17255 |
| 21:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17255 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Upgrade Elastic Search code to work with version 2.4+ |
| 21:05 | cait | cool! |
| 21:05 | drojf | yay |
| 21:06 | rangi | and have overdrive records being searched via elasticsearch now |
| 21:06 | cait | #info Catalyst IT working on bug 17255 - updating Elastic Search code to work with version 2.4+ |
| 21:06 | is there a timefame for it? | |
| 21:06 | mostly wondering if it could be testable in marseile | |
| 21:06 | drojf | rangi: there is still a catmandu 1.x repo somehwere on my server |
| 21:06 | rangi | which will be submitted as patches once elastic is upgraded |
| 21:06 | before hackfest | |
| 21:06 | so people can use/test it there | |
| 21:07 | cait | nice |
| 21:07 | moving on? | |
| 21:07 | Joubu | would be cood to get a patch for the install process |
| 21:07 | rangi | the only other thing is i wont be doing anymore 3.20.x releases except for security |
| 21:07 | drojf | but for latest ES i think you need pretty late catmandu |
| 21:07 | cait | #info No more 3.20.x releases except for security |
| 21:07 | rangi | drojf: yup |
| 21:08 | cait | moving on |
| 21:08 | we got nothing for the next topic | |
| 21:08 | rangi | nope |
| 21:08 | cait | i am going to move to general dev |
| 21:08 | drojf | there was a bug/feature grabbing underscore names |
| 21:08 | which i thiunk catmandu fixed after i made the repo | |
| 21:08 | cait | #topic General development discussion |
| 21:08 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 28 September 2016) | |
| 21:08 | cait | kidclamp is not here |
| 21:09 | i tihnk he wanted to propose some new keywords for makring easy bugs | |
| 21:09 | rangi | yeah i think its a good idea, marking them academy is fine |
| 21:09 | cait | ok |
| 21:09 | rangi | also there is a page on the wiki |
| 21:09 | cait | #info marking easy bugs 'academy' for beginners is fine |
| 21:09 | hm? | |
| 21:09 | rangi | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/I_want_to_help |
| 21:09 | up date this too | |
| 21:10 | cait | #info you can also update https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/I_want_to_help |
| 21:10 | rangi | eg weve done the OMGWTFBBQ one now |
| 21:10 | cait | :) |
| 21:10 | we need a new one | |
| 21:10 | ok | |
| 21:10 | anyone interested in the discussion about minified files? | |
| 21:10 | drojf | a new search engine |
| 21:11 | * Joubu | has been disconnected |
| 21:11 | cait | nothing happened ;) |
| 21:11 | Joubu: interested in discussion about minified files? | |
| 21:11 | drojf | right in time for minified things |
| 21:11 | rangi | yeah thats something we need to figure out |
| 21:11 | cait | i have some concerns |
| 21:11 | I know that minified means that conflicts are hard to solve | |
| 21:11 | Joubu | not really cait |
| 21:12 | * drojf | minifies awakeness |
| 21:12 | cait | i think that's why some devs want to not have them in the repo |
| 21:12 | but when i understand correctly | |
| 21:12 | rangi | i think minify on release |
| 21:12 | cait | that'd mean that the testers need to run some build tools |
| 21:12 | rangi | make it part of the release process |
| 21:12 | cait | and we would have to make that super easy |
| 21:12 | rsantellan | huginn: I installed version 2.4 and with all debs and fails to create the index, I can provide testing for the bug 17255 |
| 21:12 | huginn | rsantellan: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 21:12 | drojf | rsantellan: huginn is a bot |
| 21:13 | cait | because easy for devs... hard for testers is bad |
| 21:13 | rangi | yes |
| 21:13 | rsantellan | awkward moment!! |
| 21:13 | eythian | (git hooks that reminify on checkout?) |
| 21:14 | drojf | rsantellan: happens every day |
| 21:14 | cait | hm also need something for sandboxes |
| 21:14 | rsantellan | so for anybody I can provide some help in elasticsearch matter |
| 21:14 | cait | that's my main concern |
| 21:14 | we can move on now if people want to | |
| 21:15 | rangi | yup |
| 21:15 | cait | #info cait is concerned about change in workflow for testers - should still be easy to test bugs, need tools/instructions for that |
| 21:15 | ok | |
| 21:15 | #topic Updates from the QA team | |
| 21:15 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 28 September 2016) | |
| 21:16 | cait | Joubu: do you have sth? |
| 21:16 | i noted 2 bugs on the wiki | |
| 21:17 | #info Bug 15434 - Make search results breadcrumbs human readable | |
| 21:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15434 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Make search results breadcrumbs human readable |
| 21:17 | cait | there was some critique about this being client side |
| 21:17 | instead of server side | |
| 21:17 | i am hoping we can get to a conclusion on this one | |
| 21:17 | hm come to... | |
| 21:18 | the other is | |
| 21:18 | #info Bug 16126 - Display base-level amounts on the acquisition module home page (see screenshots attached) | |
| 21:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16126 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, remi.mayrand-provencher, Signed Off , Display base-level amounts on the acquisition module home page |
| 21:19 | cait | which i'd like to get some opionions on |
| 21:19 | * Joubu | has been disconnected again... |
| 21:19 | Joubu | sorry but it seems that my box is gettting crazy |
| 21:19 | cait | the question here is: should the acq funds table be the same on the funds and hte acq start page or should the latter be a more simplified version |
| 21:19 | * cait | hands Joubu duct tape |
| 21:20 | Joubu | about bug 15434, I don't really like it, and would like to see a ES version it is not compatible |
| 21:20 | rangi | hmm yep |
| 21:21 | Joubu | I don't remember the patch exactly actually |
| 21:21 | I'd be keen to make it in if it does | |
| 21:21 | about 16126, I don't like it and I don't understand it | |
| 21:21 | the complete view is on another page | |
| 21:21 | cait | sorry, not sure i got the point |
| 21:21 | can you rephrase? | |
| 21:22 | for the first | |
| 21:22 | Joubu | which one? :) |
| 21:22 | cait | the search breadcrumbs |
| 21:22 | Joubu | iirc the breadcrumbs is zebra compatible only |
| 21:22 | cait | ok |
| 21:23 | Joubu | the breadcrumbs patch* |
| 21:23 | cait | so what would be a path forward? |
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| 21:24 | Joubu | sorry but got disconnected again |
| 21:25 | I will need to have a look again | |
| 21:25 | cait | for the funds: maybe we shoudl check permissions - can somoene who can#<t edit funds still access the complete table? |
| 21:25 | Joubu | if ES compatible, I can pass QA on it if nobody is against it |
| 21:25 | cait | i amn not sure about that, but can check some other night |
| 21:25 | Joubu | otherwise ask to the author if he is willing to provide a ES version |
| 21:25 | cait | what about the discussion client/server side? |
| 21:26 | Joubu | I don't like it, but don't have a counter patch to provide neither |
| 21:26 | so if it works... | |
| 21:26 | cait | k |
| 21:26 | similar for me | |
| 21:26 | i can see server side might be nice... but this would still be an improvement | |
| 21:27 | and it's a real long standing issue | |
| 21:27 | #action Joubu to take a look at ES compatibility of bug 15434 | |
| 21:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15434 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Make search results breadcrumbs human readable |
| 21:27 | Joubu | about the funds, it would be good to get an answer from the author |
| 21:28 | he did not answered, and is not around | |
| 21:28 | cait | #action cait to check on permissions for fund views (bug16126) |
| 21:29 | true | |
| 21:29 | ok moving on | |
| 21:29 | #topic Koha and Qvarn | |
| 21:29 | Topic for #koha is now Koha and Qvarn (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 28 September 2016) | |
| 21:29 | cait | rangi: you turn :) |
| 21:29 | rangi | i dont think there are enough people for that to be worthwhile today im afraid |
| 21:31 | ill re add it, and maybe do a mail in the meantime | |
| 21:31 | cait | hm ok |
| 21:31 | #action rangi to readd or email about Koha and Qvarn | |
| 21:32 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 21:32 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 28 September 2016) | |
| 21:32 | cait | suggestions? |
| 21:32 | wahanui | suggestions are still there |
| 21:32 | rangi | probably something that works for europe next |
| 21:32 | cait | thenext general meeting is 5 october |
| 21:33 | the week after is marseille | |
| 21:33 | what abut the 19th? | |
| 21:34 | 10 utc? | |
| 21:34 | wahanui | i guess 10 utc is a good time, but is very early on east coast USA |
| 21:34 | cait | 14 utc? |
| 21:35 | the general one is at 10 https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings | |
| 21:35 | Joubu: help? | |
| 21:35 | wahanui | hmmm... help is at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help. |
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| 21:36 | rangi | 10utc i could make |
| 21:36 | cait | ok |
| 21:36 | rangi | 14utc i cant, but the USA can |
| 21:37 | cait | 19th ok? |
| 21:37 | rangi | yep |
| 21:37 | Joubu | will be too late as well |
| 21:37 | cait | Joubu: hm? |
| 21:37 | Joubu | would have been good to have a dev meeting before the hackfest actually |
| 21:38 | rangi | what about at the hackfest |
| 21:38 | on the first day | |
| 21:38 | cait | we tired that before |
| 21:38 | i think it didn<#t really work so well | |
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| 21:38 | Joubu | k |
| 21:38 | cait | i think it was close to lunch break |
| 21:38 | might have been the problem :) | |
| 21:39 | we could have a marseille pre meeting? | |
| 21:39 | would you want to organize one? | |
| 21:39 | Joubu | not really |
| 21:39 | cait | 10 utc ok then? |
| 21:40 | the work before hackfest i will be too busy to run a dev meeting | |
| 21:40 | if someone else does, fine by me | |
| 21:40 | drojf | that is next week |
| 21:40 | Joubu | it seems that these meetings don't bring a lot of people |
| 21:40 | so yes first day of hackfest could be ok | |
| 21:40 | cait | the rest api one was a bit better |
| 21:40 | drojf | i'll be gone for "vacation" |
| 21:40 | cait | maybe we need to have topic meetings |
| 21:40 | but can we go for 19th 10 utc for now? | |
| 21:40 | rangi proposed a topic, so that would give him a chance to talk about it | |
| 21:41 | #agreed next meeting will be on 19 October, 10 utc | |
| 21:41 | i am falling asleep :) | |
| 21:41 | we need to end here | |
| 21:41 | #endmeeting | |
| 21:41 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to the #koha IRC chat | Code of conduct - https://koha-community.org/abo[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
| 21:41 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Sep 28 21:41:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 21:41 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-09-28-21.01.html | |
| 21:41 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]6-09-28-21.01.txt | |
| 21:41 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]28-21.01.log.html | |
| 21:41 | Joubu | (I am very sorry but the disconnections are aweful) |
| 21:41 | cait | thx for coming |
| 21:41 | it's late | |
| 21:41 | ! | |
| 21:42 | night all | |
| 21:42 | wahanui | goodnight cait. You'll be back. |
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| 21:43 | mkuhn | goodnight |
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| 21:59 | drojf | good nihgt #koha |
| 21:59 | night even | |
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| 22:45 | rocio | back |
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