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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:36 | wizzyrea | that's nice, I can't get them to install. |
| 00:36 | plus, I feel dirty thinking about bash on windows | |
| 00:36 | how does that even work with their backwards path notation. Just no. | |
| 00:37 | don't forget your c:\ herp derp. | |
| 00:54 | kidclamp | hah |
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| 02:13 | dcook | wizzyrea: Probably same as cygwin I guess |
| 02:13 | wizzyrea | just can't. |
| 02:13 | dcook | hehe |
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| 02:54 | dcook | I've been wondering how one tests changes to koha-conf.xml or an external configuration file: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=14167#c36 |
| 02:55 | huginn | 04Bug 14167: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Add Koha::Logger based on Log4perl |
| 02:55 | dcook | I still think it would make more sense just to do "make; make upgrade;" but.. |
| 03:38 | Interesting... | |
| 03:38 | wahanui | interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 03:38 | dcook | DBIX::Class is returning different data than what I'm seeing in the database... |
| 03:38 | 99% of the row is correct, but the timestamp is off... | |
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| 03:38 | dcook | Oh wait... no it's not |
| 03:38 | lolz | |
| 03:38 | An example of where I'm using a foreign key to fetch a different object and I didn't realize it until now >_> | |
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| 03:39 | dcook | If something seems like magic, you're probably looking in the wrong place... |
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| 06:58 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:08 | schnydszc | Hi! anyone privy here of how many languages is the Koha ILS already translated into? |
| 07:09 | just need the numbers for a proposal. thanks! | |
| 07:12 | dcook | http://translate.koha-community.org/ |
| 07:12 | eythian | wahanui: translations |
| 07:12 | wahanui | i think translations is http://translate.koha-community.org/ |
| 07:13 | dcook | Good timing, eythian |
| 07:13 | * dcook | waves and heads off for pizza |
| 07:13 | eythian | Indeed :) |
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| 07:28 | schnydszc | thanks for this. why this not showing when Koha translations is searched :P |
| 07:29 | oops sorry it was | |
| 07:29 | oh well, that's what you get if you go from one task to another task :P | |
| 07:31 | so far, 94 thanks a lot | |
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| 07:32 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:32 | wahanui | bonjour, gaetan_B |
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| 07:47 | Joubu | @later tell rangi I have already submitted a patch on bug 17372. eythian confirmed me that it should have been moved under the same namespace |
| 07:47 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 09:11 | drojf | @later tell bag ping me when you are around |
| 09:11 | huginn | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:13 | cait | @later tell bag me too :P |
| 09:13 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:13 | drojf | heh |
| 09:14 | Joubu | Is there a way to see the issue history for a given item? |
| 09:14 | @later tell bag hi! see you soon ;) | |
| 09:14 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:15 | Joubu | cait: around? |
| 09:23 | eythian | @later tell bag I don't mind if you ping me or not, I have nothing to contribute. |
| 09:23 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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| 09:46 | Joubu | fredericd: I would not have pushed 16519 |
| 09:46 | too many changes for a backport | |
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| 09:48 | * Tylathos | waves |
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| 09:58 | cait | Joubu: yep |
| 09:58 | well kind of | |
| 09:58 | Joubu: go to detail page - items tab - look there | |
| 09:59 | but i think the other tab with the history is better - you can then search for the barcode and it's easier to see | |
| 09:59 | for checkouts... or did you mean changes to the item? | |
| 10:08 | Joubu | cait: see bug 6271 comment 10 |
| 10:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6271 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Failed QA , GetItemIssue(s) : renewals in both items and issues tables |
| 10:09 | Joubu | it seems that catalogue/issuehistory.pl is designed to a parameter 'itemnumber' |
| 10:09 | which will display a table with the wrong number of renewals | |
| 10:09 | but this parameter is never passed from the Koha code | |
| 10:09 | or I missed something | |
| 10:19 | fridolin | yep hugly bug, it may be critical with DBIx::Shema |
| 10:20 | one could rename items.renewals into items.itemrenewals | |
| 10:20 | hugly correction but its like items.itemcallnumber | |
| 10:20 | item inside column name | |
| 10:24 | Joubu | what about biblioitems.biblioitemsbiblioitemnumber? |
| 10:24 | ;) | |
| 10:26 | * ashimema | is horrified every time I dig into the koha schema ;) |
| 10:26 | would love to see some rules applied throughout.. but they would kill lots of already in use reports and things along with requiring extensive coding | |
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| 11:01 | kidclamp | Joubu: what needs to be tested for 14899? I can add fields to an index, not sure what else to try |
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| 11:18 | cait | Joubu: sorry, phone calls - i will try to look later when i go through the bug ermail |
| 11:18 | my brain doesn't get it right now | |
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| 11:37 | Joubu | @later tell kidclamp: add/edit/delete fields. Make sure only the mappings for your marcflavour are updated. That's all |
| 11:37 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:42 | akawa | Is order or marc fields (of record) matters in opac normal view? |
| 11:44 | oleonard | akawa: The normal view in the OPAC is not affected by the order of MARC fields in the record |
| 11:44 | akawa: The normal view in the OPAC is usually defined by an XSLT stylesheet, unless you have XSLT turned off for some reason. | |
| 11:47 | cait | hm i thin it does matternow |
| 11:47 | the xslt got a bit more flexible in some cases | |
| 11:47 | it will display as catalgoued | |
| 11:47 | we recently had that case for a library with corporate authors | |
| 11:47 | akawa | oleonard: Yeah, im trying to modify the xslt cause a have a really strange problem. When viewing a record, at "Subject - Topical Name" it saws the authid and not the text. If i go at authority -> edit and just save the authority the problem i solved! thank you from your answer! |
| 11:47 | cait | not for all fields, some are hardcoded |
| 11:48 | akawa | is* |
| 11:48 | cait | akawa: hm sequence shouldnot matter in this case - have you taken a look at the plain marc view before editing the record? from the opac for example? |
| 11:48 | oh | |
| 11:49 | akawa | cait: yes, and the only difference is the order and the 152 field. |
| 11:49 | cait | 152? |
| 11:49 | @marc 152 | |
| 11:49 | huginn | cait: unknown tag 152 |
| 11:50 | akawa | oops sorry, not the 152. only the order |
| 11:50 | the 152 field hold the authority type that I defind in koha. | |
| 11:51 | cait | hm ok so that is a customization |
| 11:52 | akawa | im using unimarc |
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| 12:47 | cait | akawa: oops |
| 12:47 | sorry | |
| 12:47 | i know nothing about the unimarc XSLT files, they might work differently or most likely do | |
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| 12:56 | LibraryClaire | afternoon #koha |
| 12:58 | kidclamp | :-) |
| 13:00 | eythian | hi LibraryClaire |
| 13:00 | LibraryClaire | hi eythian :) |
| 13:00 | eythian | or should I call you ServiceProviderClaire now? |
| 13:00 | LibraryClaire | hah |
| 13:01 | I just spent an hour getting lost in a supermarket | |
| 13:07 | cait | LibraryClaire: did you find bacon? |
| 13:07 | LibraryClaire: m. swears there should be like 4 different sorts | |
| 13:08 | LibraryClaire | i found some yes |
| 13:08 | i also found Yorkshire tea :D | |
| 13:09 | no need to ration what I brought with me now ^^ | |
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| 13:11 | drojf | hi again |
| 13:12 | cait | yay :) |
| 13:12 | hi drojf | |
| 13:12 | drojf | hi cait. heard from bag? ^^ |
| 13:13 | eythian | LibraryClaire: I struggle with new supermarkets in cities I've lived in for years, supermarkets in foreign countries are a whole nother level of challenge. |
| 13:13 | cait | heh not yet |
| 13:13 | he is probably scared | |
| 13:13 | drojf | i should probably know how our time zones work by now |
| 13:13 | cait | i think he is kind of a late afternoon for us |
| 13:13 | maybe even evening | |
| 13:13 | eythian | (doubly so when they're in a weird moon language too.) |
| 13:14 | LibraryClaire | eythian: I speak the moon language, but still had no idea. Took me like 15mins to choose which salt to buy... |
| 13:15 | cait | heh |
| 13:15 | eythian | heh, when my parents were here, my father picked up a jar of something to put in his coffee. Turns out reading "zout" is fine for me these days, but not necessarily for other people. |
| 13:15 | LibraryClaire | :D |
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| 13:16 | eythian | (being salt, ofc.) |
| 13:16 | LibraryClaire | figured ;) |
| 13:17 | eythian | (perhaps not helped by the fact it actually says "oerzeezout", which I like to translate literally as "primordial sea salt", but I suspect means something slightly different.) |
| 13:17 | LibraryClaire | sounds like a legit translation to me :D |
| 13:19 | rsantellan | good morning #koha |
| 13:19 | eythian | http://www.nltimes.nl/2016/09/[…]-14-years-stolen/ <-- I presume they couldn't sell it because they couldn't pronounce "Scheveningen", which is a ridiculous word. |
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| 13:45 | dani | good morning |
| 13:45 | wahanui | the only good morning is a dead one |
| 13:45 | dani | good morning, Koha community |
| 13:47 | Radius_CZ | good afternoon from CZ :-), just testing Adium as IRC client for the first time |
| 13:47 | dani | morning Radius_CZ ... where is CZ? |
| 13:47 | cait | hi Radius_CZ |
| 13:48 | dani | Oh, cait, you are here! Hello |
| 13:48 | I have a question you might be able to answer, I think it's quick | |
| 13:48 | cait | sure |
| 13:49 | dani | is the batch item modification tool dynamic or static? It's not like a individual item editor that can be changed with framework adjustements, right? |
| 13:49 | cait | hmm |
| 13:49 | i think it reacts to the fields in the items to be bacth edited somehow | |
| 13:49 | that's how i remember it | |
| 13:49 | or maybe the default framework | |
| 13:49 | i am nto completely sure tbh | |
| 13:50 | dani | going to check if that is the default framework adjusted, I think it is. |
| 13:50 | back in a sec | |
| 13:52 | a library is using the stocknumber field in a non-standard way, but they want to be able to batch edit that field, but ... it doesn't show up in batch mod of items | |
| 13:52 | it is default framework | |
| 13:53 | cait | is it showing now? |
| 13:53 | maybe try to add the stocknumer to one of the items | |
| 13:53 | dani | no |
| 13:54 | cait | to see if that makes a difference |
| 13:54 | stocknumber here is unique - it could be that it's not supposed to show | |
| 13:54 | but i'd try that next | |
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| 13:54 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 13:54 | cait | hi mveron! |
| 13:55 | drojf | hi mveron :) |
| 13:55 | mveron | Hi cait and drojf :-) |
| 13:55 | dani | no that didn't work |
| 13:55 | cait | out of ideas, sorry :( |
| 13:56 | drojf | mveron: i just saw today that you have not been here for five weeks |
| 13:56 | mveron | I have troubles when editing / creating staff members, categoies of type Staff do not show up in form |
| 13:56 | drojf | nice to see you :) |
| 13:56 | cait | it might be that they kept it from showing up because batch editing for the normal use case makes no sense |
| 13:56 | Radius_CZ | dani, cait, CZ is in the heart of Europe, Czech Republic. Thank you both for reactions, I will surely return later. Going off for now. |
| 13:56 | mveron | drojf: I had not to much time... |
| 13:56 | drojf | mveron: the same as on the ml? |
| 13:56 | cait | bye Radius_CZ |
| 13:56 | drojf | there was a question about patron types |
| 13:56 | dani | agh, bye Radius_CZ |
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| 13:56 | dani | right, cait |
| 13:56 | wahanui | i heard right, cait was looking in the rong play anyway |
| 13:56 | mveron | drojf: It seems that I missed it. |
| 13:56 | cait | my guess would be wrong mysql version actually |
| 13:57 | hs someone asked that yet? | |
| 13:57 | drojf | mveron: check the archive, it was just today or yesterday i think |
| 14:14 | mveron | drojf:Does editing an existing staff member work at your site? - Do you see staff categories in the drop down (Section Library management)? - I have only category types Child, Adult, Professional and Organization, but no Staff |
| 14:17 | cait | odd |
| 14:25 | dani | mveron you don't have a branch limit on the categorycode do you and are logged into another branch? |
| 14:26 | mveron | dani: No, category has "No limitation" (Branches: All branches) |
| 14:28 | dani | strange |
| 14:30 | drojf | mveron: i would not know how to reproduce the problem. i just tried a 16.05.03 and opening the editing page for a staff user is no problem |
| 14:31 | and i see the staff category | |
| 14:32 | mveron | drojf: Thanks for digging. It happens here on current master. |
| 14:32 | drojf | what os are you on? |
| 14:32 | ah | |
| 14:32 | ok | |
| 14:32 | i did not try that | |
| 14:33 | i had an installation where things where missing once. i dont know if dev or stable. i had to install again, never found out what happened | |
| 14:33 | blamed a glitch in the mysql universe | |
| 14:34 | but yours is probably just a bug in master then | |
| 14:37 | ha | |
| 14:37 | mveron: my staff account is now juvenile | |
| 14:37 | in master | |
| 14:37 | so i have the same problem | |
| 14:38 | mveron | Yes. It's the same with me. |
| 14:38 | I mean: With my account :-) | |
| 14:38 | * mveron | feels juvenile with 61 |
| 14:38 | drojf | i have the category in administration |
| 14:39 | but cant choose in patron account | |
| 14:39 | mveron | Yes. that's it. |
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| 14:49 | Radius_CZ | Hi, may I ask somebody for an advice how to update about 60.000 of biblio records at a time? I know, there's Batch record modification tool in conjunction with Modification templates, but I feel it's for smaller batches. Should I use mysql's UpdateXml and then koha-rebuild-zebra? Is this the right approach for so huge update? I need to fill 044$a with some default values. |
| 14:51 | dani | you could overlay in batch import with corrections using Marc Templates |
| 14:51 | mveron | drojf:It seems to be related to members/memberentry.pl line 252, Koha::Patron::Categories->search_limited . The sub restricts search to current library (Koha/Patron/Categories.pm line 40) |
| 14:53 | Radius_CZ | dani: good idea, thanks! |
| 14:53 | dani | just export them and make sure you have the 999c in that export and import matching on that (make sure you have that matching rule set up) |
| 14:54 | Radius_CZ | yes, yes, I understand the point. Thanks for the suggestion. |
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| 15:07 | mveron | drojf: I filed Bug 17384 |
| 15:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17384 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Staff categories no longer visible in patron editing form |
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| 16:10 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:36 | drojf | oleonard++ |
| 16:37 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 16:50 | mveron | yes, oleonard++ |
| 16:51 | oleonard | talljoy++ too |
| 16:51 | talljoy | aw shucks. |
| 16:51 | :-D | |
| 16:51 | what'd i do? | |
| 16:51 | oleonard++ | |
| 16:51 | ah huginn told me. did you find it? | |
| 16:51 | cait helped? | |
| 16:52 | * talljoy | should really talk more in #koha |
| 16:52 | drojf | talljoy++ |
| 16:53 | indeed | |
| 16:53 | mveron | drojf: I found the solution for Bug 17384. |
| 16:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17384 major, P1 - high, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Categories do not display in patron editing form if they have only one category assigned |
| 16:53 | drojf | mveron: awesome! |
| 16:53 | wahanui | That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, drojf |
| 16:54 | drojf | mveron++ |
| 16:54 | awesome_jar++ | |
| 16:58 | * mveron | gos to make dinner. Öpfelwäie (Apfelwähe): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%A4he |
| 17:04 | cait | talljoy: huh? sorry, i think i forgot what i asked? |
| 17:04 | talljoy | huginn tells me it was about a bibframe presentation |
| 17:04 | huginn | talljoy: downloading the Perl source |
| 17:05 | cait | talljoy: sorry, my brain is not working today |
| 17:05 | talljoy | it is Friday! |
| 17:05 | cait | ah,... that's why! |
| 17:19 | bye all! | |
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| 18:48 | LibraryClaire | evening #koha |
| 18:56 | * kidclamp | waves |
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| 19:30 | drojf | evening |
| 19:40 | * mveron | waves |
| 19:40 | mveron | @wunder Allschwil |
| 19:40 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Holderweg, Binningen, Switzerland is 17.2°C (9:31 PM CEST on September 30, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:42 | * mveron | missed OPAC notes on SCO screen, so he added them... Bug 17386 |
| 19:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17386 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Add opac notes for patron to self checkout screen |
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| 20:30 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 20:30 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 13.0°C (10:20 PM CEST on September 30, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:30 | drojf | brr |
| 20:34 | mveron | Good night #koha |
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| 21:07 | drojf | uploading package for 3.22.11 |
| 21:09 | done | |
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| 22:04 | tcohen | hi |
| 22:04 | wahanui | privet, tcohen |
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| 23:34 | eythian | @wunder ams |
| 23:34 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 12.3°C (1:23 AM CEST on October 01, 2016). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
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