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| Time | Nick | Message | 
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| 00:00 | bag | time to catch a bus home | 
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| 00:54 | * wizzyrea | sighs and leaves bug 8753 right here for y'all | 
| 00:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Needs Signoff , Add forgot password link to OPAC | 
| 00:54 | wizzyrea | that should apply smooth as butter. | 
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| 01:56 | tcohen | hi | 
| 01:57 | eythian | ho | 
| 01:58 | tcohen | let's go? | 
| 02:11 | eythian | tcohen: master doesn't build and I don't think can be readily made to build due to lacking Test::DBIx::Class | 
| 02:11 | tcohen | eythian: I know | 
| 02:12 | i asked for it, because of that | |
| 02:12 | :-D | |
| 02:12 | the other option was to tweak the tests, so they skip what is needed | |
| 02:12 | eythian | yeah. I don't think it can be backported as it requires a higher version of Perl than wheezy has. | 
| 02:13 | tcohen | that sounds like a user story to add to the newly created kanban project in taiga | 
| 02:13 | eythian | it's not a solvable one, so there's little point adding a story for it :) | 
| 02:14 | tcohen | "Someone should add the infamous code block to some test files: if !Test::DBIx::Class then SKIP; else GO ON | 
| 02:15 | eythian | oh, yeah, that is a solution | 
| 02:15 | I was thinking just on the packaging front | |
| 02:15 | tcohen | can't we package an older lib? | 
| 02:17 | * tcohen | says while git grepping the source tree to evaluate the effort | 
| 02:17 | eythian | hmm | 
| 02:17 | maybe | |
| 02:17 | the deps say 0.42 | |
| 02:19 | tcohen | night everyone, it seems to be late already here | 
| 02:19 | bye! | |
| 02:19 | eythian | bye | 
| 02:19 | tcohen | eythian, if it cannot be done, it cannot be done and we'll go the other way | 
| 02:19 | eythian | k | 
| 02:19 | I'll have a look | |
| 02:19 | tcohen | we really prefer master to build | 
| 02:19 | eythian | yeah, it is a good thing to have :) | 
| 02:27 | @later tell tcohen the earliest version of Test::DBIx::Class that Koha can use requires a newer Perl version than we support. | |
| 02:27 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. | 
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| 03:46 | mtompset | Have a great night, #koha. | 
| 03:52 | eythian | 3.18.12 packages uploading | 
| 03:52 | dcook | Interesting... looks like Zebra might do some spell checking.. | 
| 03:52 | wizzyrea | \o/ | 
| 03:52 | dcook | Somehow it gets "Simon" from "siemon" | 
| 03:52 | eythian | fuzzy | 
| 03:53 | dcook | It's not turned on :/ | 
| 03:53 | eythian | hmm | 
| 03:53 | dcook | wrdl="siemon" | 
| 03:53 | Going to see if word list does some extra magic.. | |
| 03:54 | Hmm | |
| 03:54 | For the Truncation attribute, No Truncation is the default. Left Truncation is not supported. Process # in | |
| 03:54 | search term is supported, as is Regxp-1. Regxp-2 enables the fault-tolerant (fuzzy) search. As a default, | |
| 03:54 | a single error (deletion, insertion, replacement) is accepted when terms are matched against the register | |
| 03:54 | contents. | |
| 03:54 | wahanui | contents are sensible. However, it's basically a text file with lots of angle braces. | 
| 03:55 | dcook | (http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/zebra.pdf) | 
| 03:55 | eythian | ah yep | 
| 03:55 | dcook | That's interesting | 
| 03:55 | I'm not sure I have an opinion for or against it | |
| 03:56 | eythian | ES can do it, but it's something you have to turn on | 
| 03:56 | dcook | I'm thinking I'd like it more if it were something you had to turn on | 
| 03:56 | eythian | you must be able to turn it off, or exact searches will become complicated. | 
| 03:57 | dcook | I imagine exact searches might be an exception? | 
| 03:57 | eythian | possibly | 
| 03:57 | dcook | An exact search on that one shows 0 results as expected | 
| 03:58 | Hmm | |
| 03:58 | eythian | might just be the wrdl | 
| 03:58 | dcook | But so does wrdl,ext="simon" | 
| 03:58 | That's... interesting | |
| 03:58 | eythian | pronounced wordle | 
| 03:58 | dcook | I love saying worldle | 
| 03:58 | haha | |
| 03:58 | wordle* | |
| 03:59 | Ahhh... "ext" changes it from a wrdl to a phr I think | |
| 03:59 | and to a complete field.. | |
| 03:59 | Which apparently only works for phr anyway | |
| 03:59 | eythian | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=44313 <-- quite a lot of digging to work out that the rest api isn't going to be using the new swagger2 stuff any time soon. | 
| 04:01 | dcook | So CPAN::Meta::Check 0.009 requires >= Perl 5.17.1? | 
| 04:01 | And I assume the default in Jessie (or Wheezy) is 5.14.2? | |
| 04:01 | eythian | yeah | 
| 04:01 | wheezy | |
| 04:02 | dcook | That seems pretty conclusive to me | 
| 04:02 | Also, I didn't even know IO::Socket::IP was a thing | |
| 04:02 | I thought it was just IO::Socket::INET | |
| 04:02 | eythian | neither, but mojo wouldn't build without it | 
| 04:03 | dcook | Data for 2014-09-14 | 
| 04:03 | IO::Socket::IP was first released with perl v5.19.8 | |
| 04:03 | Neato burrito | |
| 04:03 | eythian | oh actually | 
| 04:03 | that's interesting | |
| 04:03 | I might not have stepped the versions back enough | |
| 04:04 | maybe I can make it work after all | |
| 04:04 | dcook | \o/ | 
| 04:04 | eythian | I really wish I could make pbuilder use its output directory as a repository. | 
| 04:05 | so if I'm working backwards along a tree, I don't have to put things into a repo and update etc. | |
| 04:06 | dcook | Alas, over my head at this point :( | 
| 04:06 | One of these days I'll try out pbuilder | |
| 04:07 | Actually, I think I might understand.. | |
| 04:08 | eythian | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Pbuild[…]th_Local_Packages <-- this is what you have to do to make it work :/ | 
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| 07:06 | drojf | morning | 
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| 07:43 | reiveune | hello | 
| 07:47 | magnuse | bonjour! | 
| 07:47 | @wunder boo | |
| 07:47 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 03, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). | 
| 07:48 | drojf | hei magnuse | 
| 07:48 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 07:48 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). | 
| 07:50 | magnuse | hah! ;-) | 
| 07:50 | drojf | i wish i had not checked that | 
| 07:50 | :D | |
| 07:51 | i got the sun shining right in my face. i did not expect it to be that cold outside | |
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| 07:54 | alex_a | bonjour | 
| 07:56 | magnuse | drojf: you have more sun than me, if that is any consolation | 
| 07:56 | hiya alex_a | |
| 07:56 | drojf | magnuse: as long as i don't leave the house, i have quite nice weather here :) | 
| 07:59 | alex_a | hello magnuse | 
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| 07:59 | magnuse | drojf: nice! | 
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| 09:20 | mveron | Good morning / daytime #koha | 
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| 09:21 | Francesca | evening | 
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| 09:22 | * andreashm | waves | 
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| 09:29 | * Francesca | waves back | 
| 09:30 | mveron | @wunder Basel | 
| 09:30 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 4.0°C (10:20 AM CET on November 03, 2015). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling). | 
| 09:31 | * andreashm | tried to apply bug 12772 but failed. It has bug 13624 as a dependency... I applied that first but still got an error applying 12772. Am I doing it right or is there another workflow I should use? | 
| 09:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12772 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Needs Signoff , Overdue Notice/Status triggers tool | 
| 09:31 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Passed QA , Remove columns branchcode, categorytype from table overduerules_transport_types | |
| 09:31 | magnuse | andreashm: what was the error? | 
| 09:31 | andreashm | Hi Francesca and mveron | 
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| 09:31 | Francesca | sup | 
| 09:31 | drojf | hello again | 
| 09:32 | andreashm | magnuse: Ye old "Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge" | 
| 09:32 | drojf, magnuse: hello! | |
| 09:32 | drojf | hi andreashm | 
| 09:33 | andreashm | mveron: you from Switzerland? | 
| 09:33 | mveron | andreashm: Yes, the land of the dd.mm.yyyy date format :-) | 
| 09:34 | drojf | hi mveron | 
| 09:34 | andreashm | mveron: haha | 
| 09:34 | mveron | andreashm: and the chocolate... | 
| 09:34 | wahanui | reiveune ate them all | 
| 09:34 | mveron | hi drojf | 
| 09:34 | reiveune | :p | 
| 09:34 | andreashm | mveron: what's the status of Koha in Switzerland? Any libraries using it? | 
| 09:35 | * andreashm | would like some chocolate | 
| 09:35 | is aksing since he is moving to Switzerland in march (most likely) | |
| 09:36 | mveron | andreashm: Not to much... And welcome to Switzerland, where do you plan to live? | 
| 09:37 | drojf | why are you moving to switzerland? for the chocolate? :) | 
| 09:38 | andreashm | mveron: Sion. the french part. | 
| 09:38 | drojf: of course! | |
| 09:38 | no, but my wife is going there for a reaserch-position (post doc) | |
| 09:40 | mveron | andreashm: It is nice there. I live in Allschwil near Basel (15 mn with the tramway to downtown Basel). | 
| 09:41 | Francesca | ohh moving | 
| 09:41 | exciting! | |
| 09:44 | andreashm | I've been is Basel before. But never Sion. Going there first time in december to check it out. | 
| 09:46 | Francesca: exciting and scary! | |
| 09:46 | Francesca | lol | 
| 09:46 | drojf | andreashm: so you need a new koha library to work at? or are you going to be a remote librarian? :) | 
| 09:46 | Francesca | Its late here so night #koha | 
| 09:47 | magnuse | andreashm: wow, exciting! | 
| 09:50 | mveron | andreashm: Some survival tipps: | 
| 09:50 | Oertig-Davidson, Margaret: Beyond Chocolate. Understanding Swiss Culture ISBN 978-3-905252-21-7 | |
| 09:50 | Haver, Gianni; Mix & Remix: Swissness in a Nutshell: ISBN 978-3-905252-65-1 | |
| 09:51 | andreashm | drojf: remote librarian. to start with at least. and on parental leave part time. | 
| 09:51 | mveron: oh, thanks! | |
| 09:52 | magnuse | wow, that sounds awesome | 
| 09:53 | andreashm | magnuse: I hope so. | 
| 09:54 | Anyone from Switzerland (or around) that has actually been to Sion? | |
| 09:54 | drojf | andreashm: sweden is awesome. i don't think that would be possible to do over here | 
| 09:55 | andreashm | drojf: Sweden is good in many ways yes (and bad in some) | 
| 09:57 | * magnuse | has heard "Iron Lion Zion" by B. Marley, but is not sure that counts | 
| 09:57 | andreashm | magnuse: great help, as usual! :) | 
| 10:01 | magnuse | :-) | 
| 10:01 | my pleasure | |
| 10:07 | andreashm | any thought on my previous question, on what workflow I should have when applying a bug that has another bug as a dependancy? Was I correct in applying the dependecy first and then trying to add the bug in question (in the same branch)? | 
| 10:08 | drojf | andreashm: that is what i usually do | 
| 10:09 | andreashm | hum, might be an issue with the bug then (bug 12772) | 
| 10:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12772 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Needs Signoff , Overdue Notice/Status triggers tool | 
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| 10:12 | drojf | andreashm: in what way dioes it not work? you can't apply the patches? or the feature does nor work? | 
| 10:12 | andreashm | can't apply the patch | 
| 10:12 | paul_p | andreashm about koha in switzerland: we have some customers in Lausanne. | 
| 10:12 | andreashm | 3-way merge problem | 
| 10:13 | paul_p: oh cool, thanks. that's close to where I'll be living | |
| 10:13 | drojf | you have to resolve the conflicts then. some underlying code in master changed, probably database and maybe some more. you should get a message what file to fix | 
| 10:14 | or get the people working on the bugs to rebase | |
| 10:15 | andreashm | drojf: they'll have to rebase I guess... seems to be an issue with atomicupdate I just noticed. | 
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| 11:45 | * fridolin | releasing last 3.14.x version | 
| 11:45 | fridolin | bye bye pie | 
| 11:49 | atheia | fridolin: onto tau next :-) | 
| 11:57 | fridolin | atheia: well found ;D | 
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| 12:41 | tcohen | morning | 
| 12:41 | magnuse | kia ora tcohen | 
| 12:42 | tcohen | hi magnuse | 
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| 12:56 | tcohen | @later tell cait urgent RM <-> QAM meeting needed | 
| 12:56 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. | 
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| 13:11 | misilot | I have a question about bug 12426. I read through it but not sure if it will allow resending of *sent* messages or not? | 
| 13:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12426 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, larit, Needs Signoff , Allow resending of emails from the notices tab in the patron account | 
| 13:12 | misilot | i think it can only do failed messages, is that correct? | 
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| 14:12 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14978: (obsessive followup) fix upgrade text <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c3a072420eb8a9fdc> | 
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| 15:30 | mveron | tcohen: Trello: I have an account - how to join? | 
| 15:31 | ...and hi :-) | |
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| 15:50 | nengard | hola all - updating the manual and looking at http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 ... it says to create a directory in the test plan - does that mean I need to document that sys admins need to create a folder? or is it done in the upgrade? | 
| 15:50 | huginn | 04Bug 6874: new feature, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Attach files to bibliographic records | 
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| 16:12 | drojf | do we know if elasticsearch and plack do get along at the moment? | 
| 16:13 | bgkriegel | hi nengard, I think the path must be created and set in config file by sys admins | 
| 16:18 | nengard | okay dokey bgkriegel I'll go and and note that in the manual | 
| 16:18 | mveron | bgkriegel: Thanks for adding me to trello :-) | 
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| 16:36 | drojf | in answer to my question: looks like they do | 
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| 17:05 | tcohen | mveron | 
| 17:05 | what's your trello user?] | |
| 17:06 | mveron | mveron - I'm already added by bgkriegel :-) | 
| 17:06 | bgkriegel | yeah :) | 
| 17:06 | tcohen | awesome :-D | 
| 17:07 | thanks bgkriegel | |
| 17:07 | bgkriegel | np :) | 
| 17:07 | tcohen | please, add yourselves to the card you are taking care | 
| 17:07 | (while you are on it) | |
| 17:07 | reiveune | bye | 
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| 17:15 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14821: Do not list not returned items <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4c1acfa345da8cadc> | 
| 17:16 | pianohacker | Joubu++ | 
| 17:16 | much needed commit | |
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| 18:47 | * tcohen | is scared about t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t failures | 
| 18:49 | pianohacker | tcohen: have a jenkins link? | 
| 18:50 | tcohen | i can consistently reproduce them in kohadevbox | 
| 18:50 | with the sample data | |
| 18:51 | rangi | broken test, or broken report? (to be fair i've never trusted that GetTopIssues | 
| 18:53 | passes here tho | |
| 18:53 | tcohen | try it a couple times | 
| 18:53 | rangi | passed 4 | 
| 18:54 | tcohen | ah | 
| 18:54 | i'm running prove -r t/db_dependent/Circulation/* | |
| 18:54 | rangi | ahh so not just that one | 
| 18:55 | tcohen | side effects | 
| 18:55 | wahanui | side effects are worse tha bad display? | 
| 18:55 | rangi | yeah one of the other tests must be the actual problem | 
| 18:55 | tcohen | t/db_dependent/Circulation/AnonymiseIssueHistory.t .. ok | 
| 18:55 | t/db_dependent/Circulation/CheckIfIssuedToPatron.t .. ok | |
| 18:55 | t/db_dependent/Circulation/CheckValidBarcode.t ...... ok | |
| 18:55 | t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetIssues.t .............. ok | |
| 18:55 | one of them :-D | |
| 18:55 | rangi | cos now perl t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t | 
| 18:55 | fails | |
| 18:56 | so one of the ones that runs before it, doesn't clean up | |
| 18:57 | GetIssues.t | |
| 18:57 | no rollback | |
| 18:58 | its either it | |
| 18:58 | or Anonymise | |
| 18:59 | because that uses TestBuilder | |
| 18:59 | and I dont trust it | |
| 19:00 | tcohen | why not? | 
| 19:00 | rangi | it's opaque and it breaks randomly on jenkins | 
| 19:00 | tcohen | i know it is weird | 
| 19:01 | rangi | and i think it hides lots of how koha does things, and i think writing tests, you should know how koha does things | 
| 19:02 | id try adding the rollback to GetIssues.t first, and clean the db | |
| 19:02 | and see if it fixes it, (the other 2 tests both rollback) | |
| 19:03 | tcohen | i think there is something related to the adoption of DBIC's handler | 
| 19:03 | rangi | probably | 
| 19:03 | tcohen | and my fear is that the failure comes from _new_koha_item saying it is not passed a biblioitemnumber... | 
| 19:04 | rangi | something is definitely messing up the database though | 
| 19:04 | tcohen | which is supposed to have been generated from AddBiblio... | 
| 19:04 | rangi | well if people mess up itemtypes etc | 
| 19:04 | that could well fail | |
| 19:04 | i think we were banking on the side effect of DBI not committing | |
| 19:05 | tcohen | that's probably the cause | 
| 19:05 | rangi | thats my guess anyway | 
| 19:07 | tcohen | ah | 
| 19:07 | i was wrong | |
| 19:07 | it comes from the previous run, not the previous tests | |
| 19:08 | * tcohen | suspects TooMany.t | 
| 19:08 | rangi | ahh so could be any of the other tests | 
| 19:08 | tcohen | all of you actually | 
| 19:08 | .-P | |
| 19:08 | rangi | yeah, id still do an explicit rollback | 
| 19:08 | tcohen | but there's a warning | 
| 19:08 | rangi | just because, i always prefer explicit to implicit | 
| 19:08 | tcohen | yes, I've added explicit everywhere I could | 
| 19:08 | rangi | cool | 
| 19:09 | tcohen | I even filled a bug + patch for removing transaction handling from within testbuilder | 
| 19:09 | so it is just a silly random data generator, and nothing more | |
| 19:09 | rangi | nice | 
| 19:10 | tcohen | we need to ship a script to load all default data | 
| 19:10 | rangi | i hope to get some time this week to test, but next week is NZ library conference, and ive been away for 5 weeks so, so much to catch up on | 
| 19:10 | * tcohen | thinks bisecting would be even easier | 
| 19:10 | rangi | yes, that would be good | 
| 19:10 | tcohen | oh noes rangi! | 
| 19:11 | rangi | i did test one thing tho | 
| 19:12 | tcohen | heeh | 
| 19:13 | bag | morning | 
| 19:13 | rangi | hi bag | 
| 19:14 | tcohen | rangi: tests started failing randomly, when I added the -s switch to prove | 
| 19:14 | bag | heya rangi | 
| 19:14 | tcohen | to catch side effects | 
| 19:14 | hi bag | |
| 19:14 | bag | heya tcohen | 
| 19:14 | tcohen | and we did :-/ | 
| 19:14 | rangi | tcohen: maybe that is a good thing for the academy students this year | 
| 19:14 | run tests with -s, try and track down the side effects | |
| 19:15 | bag | nengard make a note of that too for your future classes ^^^ | 
| 19:15 | ah she’s at lunch - I will email her | |
| 19:20 | tcohen | i put my name for maintaining jenkins | 
| 19:20 | btw | |
| 19:20 | rangi | cool tcohen | 
| 19:21 | tcohen | the point is to spend some time on polishing *how* we use it | 
| 19:21 | rangi | i put my name for nothing | 
| 19:21 | for the first time ever | |
| 19:21 | hehe | |
| 19:21 | tcohen | so it even makes sense | 
| 19:21 | rangi: congrats | |
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| 19:22 | rangi | yeah, id like to see us get into doing some js side tests too, i know angular etc has tools to do all that | 
| 19:25 | ohhh this is really good news | |
| 19:25 | tcohen | ??? | 
| 19:26 | rangi | https://gnupg.org/blog/2015110[…]g-in-october.html | 
| 19:26 | TOFU and DANE | |
| 19:26 | make gpg a lot more usable | |
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| 19:36 | jwellner | Hey JesseM - I just got a bit of spam from Cindy asking to open a PDF. It's spam, but you may want to investigate. | 
| 19:36 | Probably some malware on her machine or account compromised. | |
| 19:36 | JesseM | jwellner yes it is Spam. Please do not open that email. | 
| 19:36 | She is looking in to that right now | |
| 19:36 | jwellner | Our content filter blocked any opening of it. | 
| 19:37 | JesseM | Good | 
| 19:39 | jwellner | Thanks much! Just wanted to let you know | 
| 19:45 | JesseM | Thank you jwellner | 
| 19:47 | tcohen | bye #koha | 
| 19:48 | rangi | fwiw i got it too, i suspect everyone in the address book did | 
| 19:49 | JesseM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5ftLAcOKl8 <-- if you want your boys to see a traditional haka | |
| 19:52 | bag | JesseM that haka is awesome - you should show that to cole and ty | 
| 19:52 | JesseM | Cole is watching it right now with me | 
| 19:52 | :) | |
| 19:52 | bag | awesome | 
| 19:52 | wahanui | That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, bag | 
| 19:52 | bag | nice | 
| 19:53 | JesseM | thanks rangi | 
| 19:53 | rangi | something like that was often enough to end a battle before it started | 
| 19:53 | bag | yeah I can imagine | 
| 19:54 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ5R-0l7wdY <-- and of course this is worth watching again ;) | 
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| 19:55 | JesseM | i believe that rangi. Past few days my son has went up to random people and asked them if they saw the All Blacks win! :) | 
| 19:55 | rangi | hehe | 
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| 19:57 | rangi | all the tries were scored by players who play for wellington | 
| 19:58 | JesseM | You were up pretty early that morning to watch that match | 
| 19:58 | rangi | yup | 
| 19:58 | http://www.nzherald.co.nz/spor[…]objectid=11539326 <-- beauden barret is a pretty nice guy too | |
| 19:59 | JesseM | I saw that the security guard tackled that kid | 
| 19:59 | rangi | yeah | 
| 19:59 | that was a bit OTT | |
| 20:00 | JesseM | very much so | 
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| 20:08 | cbrannon | Question about the Koha search header. Are all the search tabs rendered as displayed before they are hidden, or are they initially rendered hidden? | 
| 20:12 | pianohacker | initially displayed then hidden, I believe, cbrannon | 
| 20:12 | you can see it on slow servers :) | |
| 20:12 | cbrannon | Would it break anything to initially render all but the first as hidden? | 
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| 20:13 | pianohacker | cbrannon: I'm not certain, but I don't think so. Why? | 
| 20:14 | cbrannon | Cause it drives me nuts to watch all the boxes render and then hide. Feels kinda sloppy. | 
| 20:14 | I'm not sure what the point of displaying them and then hidding them is. | |
| 20:15 | :-| | |
| 20:15 | pianohacker | cbrannon: definitely agree, that's a UI polish thing that bugs me too | 
| 20:16 | cbrannon: I'd highly encourage poking an existing bug or filing an existing one | |
| 20:16 | cbrannon | :) | 
| 20:17 | pianohacker | you doing so would probably have more umph than me, I'm a bit picky and out in the woods when it comes to UI sometimes :) | 
| 20:17 | cbrannon | I'll see about doing that this afternoon. Thanks for the input. | 
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| 20:30 | wizzyrea | mveron++ | 
| 20:31 | mveron | wizzyrea: Thanks :-) | 
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | thank you for having a look at that passwords patch set | 
| 20:32 | it's every bit as important as any feature we add to the staff client | |
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| 20:42 | * cait | wave | 
| 20:42 | cait | s | 
| 20:43 | rangi | hi cait | 
| 20:43 | cait | hi rangi :) | 
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| 20:51 | Francesca | morning | 
| 20:52 | cait | morning Francesca :) | 
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| 20:54 | Francesca | hey cait! sup | 
| 20:54 | cait | : | 
| 20:54 | :) | |
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| 20:56 | mveron | nengard: Bug 15091 | 
| 20:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15091 major, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Batch Checkout Doesn't Tell You it Failed | 
| 20:57 | nengard | yup? | 
| 20:57 | oh - needs signoff | |
| 20:57 | WOOO HOO - okay lookinig now | |
| 20:57 | mveron | I hope it addresses your concerns... | 
| 20:57 | cait | mveron++ :) | 
| 20:57 | mveron | Hi cait :-) | 
| 20:57 | cait | you are awesome :) | 
| 20:58 | mveron | ...and hi everybody | 
| 20:58 | Everybody ++ | |
| 20:59 | nengard | mveron it still doesn't say that the items were not checked out - it says that the patron has a debt, but not that the items weren't checked out - it's confusing | 
| 20:59 | mveron http://screencast.com/t/OxERq7NhJ3bY | |
| 21:00 | tcohen | mveron++ | 
| 21:01 | hi cait! | |
| 21:01 | cait | hi :) | 
| 21:01 | back home | |
| 21:01 | you wanted to talk? | |
| 21:01 | mveron | nengard: I will try to find the place where I can put a "Not checked out" | 
| 21:01 | cait | i haven't read the bug mail yet - be warned :) | 
| 21:02 | mveron: maybe if the problem is the fine, it coudl show it on top? | |
| 21:02 | nengard | mveron if i get checkboxes http://screencast.com/t/2AEmTAgoqhY and then click the button I see what's okay http://screencast.com/t/j5J00qU5E but not that the other failed per se | 
| 21:02 | cait | might not even need to try all items then | 
| 21:02 | nengard | I'd just change the warning to 'no checked out' or 'checkout failed' and then the reason | 
| 21:02 | it's fine with me | |
| 21:02 | cait | ah ok, ignore me... i think i need to take a closer look at the feature | 
| 21:02 | nengard | hehe | 
| 21:02 | cait | not sure how it works yet | 
| 21:02 | what nengard says sounds good :) | |
| 21:03 | nengard | :) | 
| 21:03 | * mveron | dives into the code | 
| 21:03 | nengard | mveron++ | 
| 21:07 | * mveron | could get rich if the test patron would pay all his fines... | 
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| 21:14 | mveron | nengard: I added "Not checked out". What do you think? | 
| 21:15 | nengard | testing again now | 
| 21:17 | MUCH BETTER | |
| 21:17 | cait | mveron: heh | 
| 21:18 | nengard | bug 15091 | 
| 21:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15091 major, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Batch Checkout Doesn't Tell You it Failed | 
| 21:19 | nengard | I think a future improvement is to make it look more friendly - but for now it's 100% clear what's going on | 
| 21:19 | mveron++ | |
| 21:19 | again :) hehe | |
| 21:20 | cait | i wanna see... :) | 
| 21:20 | nengard | then i guess you should be the one to qa it :) hehe | 
| 21:20 | cait | oh | 
| 21:20 | good point | |
| 21:20 | wahanui | I know! The blade went right through that child! | 
| 21:21 | mveron | nengard: Yes, there could be some improvements. E.g. one could compare the very first batch with the outcome after the confirmation. But that would be a bigger task. | 
| 21:21 | cait | wahanui! | 
| 21:21 | wahanui | i heard i was rumoured to be a sentient bot with sass | 
| 21:21 | nengard | I agree mveron this is enough to make it useable and then we can make it prettier | 
| 21:23 | mveron | Small steps in usability lead to big steps in kohaity | 
| 21:24 | tcohen | nengard: have you looked at patron card creator and label creator for the manual? | 
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | yeah, that's pretty important | 
| 21:28 | nengard | not yet - it's on my list | 
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | oh, tcohen | 
| 21:28 | or anybody really | |
| 21:28 | I noticed, I guess with the fontawesome stuff? that the buttons there went stupid and I had a patch to put them right | |
| 21:28 | nengard | I have about 20 more things to document - this is a big upgrade | 
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | bug 15112 | 
| 21:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15112 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Make greybox consistent size across label and patron card creator | 
| 21:29 | tcohen | wizzyrea: fill abug | 
| 21:29 | ah, that | |
| 21:29 | wahanui | ah, that is probably just to say that everything should be on one line | 
| 21:31 | cait | wizzyrea: hm, thought khall's follow up had fixed it | 
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | it didn't as of yesterday :/ | 
| 21:32 | which followup? | |
| 21:33 | tcohen | efa2c33c870b763f4af8198e10eb97a154189200 | 
| 21:33 | cait | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=44014 | 
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | mm no | 
| 21:34 | he changed the icons | |
| 21:34 | but doing that made them not fit in the table | |
| 21:34 | so they stack | |
| 21:34 | which is not so pretty | |
| 21:34 | cait | gah. | 
| 21:35 | can you fix it? | |
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | it's on that patch for 15112 | 
| 21:35 | :) | |
| 21:35 | cait | shoudl we add it to trello? | 
| 21:35 | bug 15112 | |
| 21:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15112 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Make greybox consistent size across label and patron card creator | 
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | I could split it out I suppose | 
| 21:35 | cait | i have added it | 
| 21:36 | to the nso ist | |
| 21:36 | nso list | |
| 21:36 | wahanui | nso list is finally down a bit :) | 
| 21:36 | cait | i wish wahanui... | 
| 21:36 | we still need some plack experts for fixing problems | |
| 21:36 | and testers for the dates patches too | |
| 21:43 | wizzyrea | hm | 
| 21:52 | mveron | testers for the dates patches ++ | 
| 21:52 | :-) | |
| 21:53 | eythian | hi | 
| 21:53 | wahanui | hey, eythian | 
| 21:53 | cait | hi eythian :) | 
| 21:53 | eythian++ too | |
| 21:54 | saw you are workingon the packages :) | |
| 21:54 | tcohen | lazy eythian, who doesn't want to package newer perl version for wheezy | 
| 21:54 | pianohacker | so lazy | 
| 21:54 | eythian | yeah | 
| 21:54 | guilty as charged | |
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| 22:42 | Francesca | hey eythian was the weather in aussie nicer than here? | 
| 22:42 | eythian | sydney was too hot, Hobart was about wellington-like | 
| 22:42 | but, not today-wellington | |
| 22:43 | Francesca | so windy but not freezing | 
| 22:44 | eythian | well, not as windy either | 
| 22:44 | but not really hot like sydney | |
| 22:45 | Francesca | @wunder wlg | 
| 22:45 | huginn | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (11:30 AM NZDT on November 04, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). | 
| 22:45 | wizzyrea | that is too cold for november. | 
| 22:45 | Francesca | its actually sad | 
| 22:45 | the weather is returning us to winter | |
| 22:49 | dcook | Hobart was pretty nice :) | 
| 22:49 | * mveron | did some digging on Bug 15098 and needs feedback | 
| 22:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15098 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Itemtype description missing from facets for itypes in a search group | 
| 22:51 | mveron | Oh, it's getting late, almost a new day. | 
| 22:51 | dcook | It's only 9:51am | 
| 22:51 | It is a new day :D | |
| 22:52 | mveron | Hmm, it seems that somebody invented time zones... I have 11:51 pm.... | 
| 22:52 | Francesca | and I have 11.52 am | 
| 22:52 | mveron | Anyway, good night / daytime everybody :-) | 
| 22:52 | dcook | Well, we can't all be right :p | 
| 22:52 | night mveron | |
| 22:52 | Francesca | bye mveron | 
| 22:53 | eythian | dcook: speak for yourself ;) | 
| 22:53 | * mveron | hopes for magical sign-offs for the C4:Dates removal bugs while sleeping :-) | 
| 22:54 | pianohacker | mveron: what's the count? | 
| 22:54 | mveron | pianohacker: 8 to sign off... | 
| 22:54 | cait | hm i think i don' tunderstand what is meant in bug 15119? | 
| 22:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15119 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Hide search header text boxes on render | 
| 22:55 | * mveron | waves... | 
| 22:55 | pianohacker | bye | 
| 22:56 | eythian | wahanui: hippies is <reply>Not allowed! http://www.grandysabroad.com/w[…]7.22-759x1024.jpg | 
| 22:56 | wahanui | OK, eythian. | 
| 22:56 | pianohacker | cait: if you watch the loading of some pages in the staff client on a slow connection/server, you can see the three different search boxes briefly appear before the default one is the only one shown | 
| 22:57 | cait | oh | 
| 22:57 | i see | |
| 23:01 | wizzyrea | yeah I've seen things like that, often it has things loading in document.ready when they don't need to be | 
| 23:02 | pianohacker | document.ready or window.load? | 
| 23:10 | wizzyrea | document.ready, in the case I'm thinking of | 
| 23:11 | (I have no idea what the case is here) | |
| 23:15 | it seems most pronounced when there's a proxy | |
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