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| 00:59 | wizzyrea | I wonder when setting the subject on runreport.pl was broken. |
| 01:00 | also that doesn't take multiple addresses. grumpymaking. | |
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| 01:12 | dcook | Break all the things! |
| 01:12 | * dcook | is actually working on fixing all the things and recovering data... |
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| 01:29 | eythian | http://thedailywtf.com/articles/Special-Delivery <-- a classic |
| 01:36 | Francesca | http://www.stuff.co.nz/busines[…]dmortar-bookstore |
| 01:38 | wizzyrea | oh my |
| 01:39 | Francesca | paper books are not yet dead |
| 01:46 | wizzyrea | nah, I think people are actually giving up on ebooks. I see a lot more paper books on the bus than kindles. |
| 01:46 | or other ereaders. | |
| 01:46 | which is actually different from a couple of years ago | |
| 01:47 | Francesca | i have a sony e-reader |
| 01:47 | useful for international travel | |
| 01:47 | or travel which has limits on how many books I can bring | |
| 01:52 | eythian | wizzyrea: many people are probably just using phones though |
| 01:52 | wizzyrea | a lot definitely are doing things online |
| 01:52 | online reading | |
| 01:52 | I can't say for sure how many are reading ebooks though | |
| 01:52 | (I mean obviously) | |
| 01:52 | dcook | I think print sales are rising as ebook sales are falling though |
| 01:53 | wizzyrea | ^ I read this recently |
| 01:53 | as well as observing bus habits of people | |
| 01:53 | dcook | This is old now: http://www.smh.com.au/entertai[…]50118-12qmf4.html |
| 01:53 | Looks like it wasn't a huge increase for print | |
| 01:54 | Anyone have networking tips? | |
| 01:54 | I can ssh from one machine to another, but I can't do the same going backwards | |
| 01:54 | So I ssh into Machine A, then ssh into Machine B | |
| 01:54 | But Machine B can't ssh into Machine A | |
| 01:54 | "ssh: connect to host XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX port 22: No route to host" | |
| 01:55 | I figure it's either Machine A's firewall or the router? | |
| 01:56 | I know I've heard of this before where Machine A and Machine B can both Network Segment B, but only Machine A can access Network Segment A... unless you add a route, I think | |
| 01:56 | I suppose that is rather outside the scope of koha... :p | |
| 01:58 | eythian | what is between the machines? |
| 01:58 | dcook | I'm not sure :/ |
| 01:58 | eythian | most likely, there's a NATting gateway or something that only allows one-way traffic. |
| 01:58 | dcook | That's what I'm thinking |
| 01:59 | eythian | or possibly a firewall, but I wouldn't expect the no route error in that case. |
| 01:59 | dcook | Yeah, I would think you'd get at least a refused if it were the firewall, although maybe not for dropped packets.. |
| 02:00 | eythian | that's timeout |
| 02:00 | dcook | Right, that would be it |
| 02:00 | eythian | no route is a router somewhere saying "I don't know how to get packets there" |
| 02:00 | dcook | I think there are a few NATs out there |
| 02:00 | Yeah, that's what I was thinking | |
| 02:00 | Hmm, so I can ping Machine A but the packets get filtered | |
| 02:01 | Not sure what that means though | |
| 02:02 | I suppose it's my gateway saying they're filtered though, so i'm guessing my gateway is blocking it? | |
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| 02:02 | cdickinson | I heard someone needs networking help |
| 02:02 | dcook | haha |
| 02:02 | Indeed! | |
| 02:03 | I think I'm doomed, but I figure I'd better exhaust my possibilities | |
| 02:03 | * cdickinson | looks at the logs |
| 02:04 | cdickinson | okay |
| 02:04 | eythian | dcook: trace(route|path) or mtr may be more helpful |
| 02:04 | cdickinson | eythian has the right idea |
| 02:05 | it'll tell you what hop the traffic is having problems at | |
| 02:05 | dcook | Yeah, I've been trying traceroute on both ends |
| 02:05 | Although not always sure what to look for | |
| 02:07 | I try to traceroute Machine A | |
| 02:07 | cdickinson | yep |
| 02:07 | dcook | But it says it's unable to lookup my gateway and Temporary failure in name resolution |
| 02:08 | cdickinson | DNS problem? |
| 02:08 | wahanui | I can't find that machine name |
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| 02:08 | cdickinson | wow, I just killed wahanui |
| 02:08 | dcook | That's what Google is saying, but I'm just using ip addresses |
| 02:08 | cdickinson | is it doing a reverse lookup? |
| 02:09 | depending on the implementation, traceroute tries a reverse lookup, I think | |
| 02:09 | usually you can turn that off | |
| 02:09 | dcook | I can use traceroute for other machines and it works though |
| 02:09 | eythian | dns google.com |
| 02:09 | wahanui | google.com is 74.125.227.164 |
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| 02:10 | dcook | Ahh.. |
| 02:10 | Francesca | woah wahanui just did a vanishing act |
| 02:10 | and came back again but still | |
| 02:10 | cdickinson | wahanui is crashing |
| 02:10 | dcook | It does seem to be doing a DNS lookup for the other machines.. |
| 02:10 | Which are on the same <insert networking term I can't remember> | |
| 02:10 | Same network segment? | |
| 02:10 | eythian | subnet? |
| 02:10 | dcook | Oh wait... |
| 02:10 | That lookup isn't on my gateway | |
| 02:11 | my gateeway is XX.XX.XXX.1 | |
| 02:11 | It's failing on XX.XX.XXX.2 | |
| 02:11 | No idea what XX.XX.XXX.2 is.. | |
| 02:11 | cdickinson | dcook: traceroute -n to disable reverse lookups |
| 02:11 | dcook | Mmm thought I'd seen that somewhere |
| 02:11 | Thanks cdickinson | |
| 02:12 | So my first hop is XX.XX.XXX.2 and it stops there | |
| 02:12 | N! | |
| 02:12 | eythian | is .2 your local machine? |
| 02:12 | dcook | Nopes |
| 02:12 | It's no machine I know about | |
| 02:13 | When I traceroute from Machine A to Machine B, it doesn't come up either | |
| 02:13 | eythian | ‽ |
| 02:13 | dcook | ^ |
| 02:13 | eythian | you may have a broken routing table then |
| 02:13 | 'route -n' tells you your routing table | |
| 02:13 | dcook | Yeah, it's not there :/ |
| 02:14 | According to route -n, my gateway is .1 | |
| 02:14 | eythian | this doesn't fit with how things should be working. There must be missing information somewhere. |
| 02:15 | dcook | That's my thought, and I don't think I know anyone who knows that missing information |
| 02:15 | eythian | as in, there's something in your system that you haven't mentioned here that makes it make sense. |
| 02:15 | dcook | There's probably also that, yes |
| 02:16 | eythian | are you in RFC1918 space? |
| 02:16 | dcook | For Machine B, yes |
| 02:16 | Wait.. | |
| 02:16 | Maybe that means something different than I think it means | |
| 02:16 | eythian | well you can't go from the internet into RFC1918 space |
| 02:17 | but you usually can go the other way | |
| 02:17 | dcook | Machine B is in RFC1918 space |
| 02:17 | Machine A can get into it | |
| 02:17 | Francesca | what is RFC1918 space |
| 02:17 | dcook | Machine A... I don't know what space it's in. |
| 02:17 | eythian | you need to know that |
| 02:17 | Francesca: private adressing that isn't routable on the internet | |
| 02:18 | Francesca | ah |
| 02:18 | dcook | Machine A doesn't look like RFC1918 space |
| 02:18 | Fwiw, I think there are at least 2 different NATs somewhere | |
| 02:19 | eythian | yeah, that's not going to be fun |
| 02:19 | dcook | There's a HTTP proxy at some point as well |
| 02:23 | I'm guessing that it's a NAT somewhere, as you said | |
| 02:23 | I think I'll have to abandon my hope for now | |
| 02:27 | cdickinson | get to know more about how the layout works, then it should be easier to debug |
| 02:31 | dcook | Yeah, that's my thought |
| 02:31 | I was hoping there might be some tips and tricks for doing it without needing to visit the real world | |
| 02:31 | I think I might have a network diagram at home.. | |
| 02:31 | Which may or may not be accurate | |
| 02:39 | wizzyrea | can you use a different port than 22 for escaping? something they might always let out like 80? |
| 02:40 | that's probably a completely daft suggestion. | |
| 02:44 | dcook | It can't even get to that other machine :/ |
| 02:44 | I can do things in reverse though, so maybe that will be good enough | |
| 02:44 | Or maybe I can track down who is in charge of the network... | |
| 02:47 | cdickinson | if routes aren't being broadcast properly, some router on the path isn't connected properly... or something may just be confused, that happens sometimes, especially if configuration changes |
| 02:47 | may not be configured properly* | |
| 02:47 | it's been a long day | |
| 02:59 | dcook | looooong day |
| 03:00 | cdickinson | I got a $65 parking ticket today |
| 03:01 | running late for a presentation today, grabbed a 180 minute park at the university and was still in there more than 180 minutes later | |
| 03:01 | despite the rain, the parking wardens are ruthless | |
| 03:01 | so yeah, kind of over today | |
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| 03:06 | wizzyrea | :( |
| 03:08 | dcook | :( |
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| 06:20 | magnuse joined #koha | |
| 06:21 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:25 | * dcook | waves to magnuse |
| 06:25 | dcook | you're late :p |
| 06:26 | magnuse | i am? nah, pretty normal i think |
| 06:27 | well, there isn't too much normal around here | |
| 06:27 | anyway, dcook you can go home now ;-) | |
| 06:28 | dcook | I really need to go home ;) |
| 06:28 | I think I might even have some time to play today... | |
| 06:28 | Well, maybe I should finish the chores... | |
| 06:29 | But really tempted to keep plodding away on my fledgling Android app | |
| 06:29 | Or fix up my Ansible playbooks | |
| 06:29 | Or... | |
| 06:29 | :p | |
| 06:39 | magnuse | :-) |
| 06:40 | ooh, team bywater for rm, interesting :-) | |
| 06:40 | dcook | ? |
| 06:42 | Ahh interesting | |
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| 06:43 | dcook | I wish I could do QA... half tempted to do it |
| 06:43 | Even if I rarely ever have time for it | |
| 06:43 | * dcook | really really needs to go home |
| 06:43 | ashimema | dcook.. anyone can 'Fail QA' ;) |
| 06:44 | dcook | That's true...hehe |
| 06:44 | ashimema | but you'd be more than welcome on the team to pass them too ;) |
| 06:44 | dcook | Considering I haven't been testing either... I suppose that's a sign |
| 06:44 | ashimema | I'd back you.. even if you could just done a couple a month that would be better than i've managed recently |
| 06:46 | magnuse | bag says " We really need a strong QA group - ideally it should be 6~7 people - so we need more of you to volunteer here - no matter what - even if you only QA one thing a week - it helps us all) " |
| 06:46 | dcook | Yeah, I was just reading that |
| 06:48 | ashimema | is this on the wiki somewhere magnuse? |
| 06:48 | magnuse | yup |
| 06:48 | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Proposal | |
| 06:49 | i am tempted to move that to a slightly more meaningful page name... | |
| 06:50 | dcook | Ok, actually going now |
| 06:50 | Ciao! | |
| 06:50 | magnuse | "Brendan Gallagher 3.24 RM proposal" sound ok? |
| 06:50 | have fun dcook | |
| 06:50 | ashimema | sounds sensible to me ;) |
| 06:50 | I was thinking similar | |
| 06:53 | sounds like a pretty good proposal | |
| 06:54 | but he's right.. really needs a good QA team to back it up.. | |
| 06:54 | all good having a solid release team but he bugs need to get to them ;) | |
| 06:54 | bag++ | |
| 06:55 | I hope I'll have more time for Koha again soon.. but soon is still likely another 2 months away :( | |
| 06:55 | magnuse | there http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_3.24_RM_proposal |
| 06:56 | we need more people to sign off too, though... | |
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| 06:58 | ashimema | indeed |
| 06:58 | at the moment the community as a whole is a bit 'man hour starved' | |
| 06:59 | in all levels.. signoff -> qa -> mm -> rm are all lacking time :( | |
| 07:02 | magnuse | yup |
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| 07:04 | Aizawl | hello, anybody |
| 07:06 | hello, i need some help | |
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| 07:10 | magnuse | Aizawl: just state your problem and if anyone can help they will reply |
| 07:12 | Aizawl | my problem is : I can print the barcode using the Label Creator, but my problem is I want to put some text above the barcode |
| 07:22 | my problem is : I can print the barcode using the Label Creator, but my problem is I want to put some text above the barcode | |
| 07:22 | wahanui | i already had it that way, Aizawl. |
| 07:22 | magnuse | Aizawl: sorry, i don't know anything about the barcodes. hopefully someone else does. if you do not get a reply here, you might consider sending your question to the email list, you will reach more people that way |
| 07:24 | Aizawl | thanks, magnuse but let me wait here. |
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| 07:40 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:40 | Aizawl | let me rephrase my problem again. |
| 07:40 | my problem is : I can print the barcode using the Label Creator, but my problem is I want to put some text above the barcode | |
| 07:41 | wahanui | i already had it that way, Aizawl. |
| 07:41 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:46 | ClintD | could someone please put in my apology for tonights (late) irc meeting pls |
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| 07:55 | drojf | morning #koha |
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| 08:20 | Francesca | heya |
| 08:23 | cait joined #koha | |
| 08:25 | * Francesca | waves at cait |
| 08:25 | * cait | waves back at Francesca :) |
| 08:25 | Francesca | sup |
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| 08:26 | jajm | hello |
| 08:26 | Francesca | hi jajm |
| 08:27 | cait | hi jajm :) |
| 08:27 | wahanui | hi jajm :) are you in charge of the biblibre sandboxes now? |
| 08:28 | jajm | hi Francesca and cait :) (and wahanui too of course) |
| 08:28 | Francesca | lol |
| 08:28 | we mustn't forget wahanui | |
| 08:30 | @wunder wlg | |
| 08:30 | huginn | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (9:00 PM NZDT on November 04, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:30 | Francesca | ugggh so cold |
| 08:31 | its meant to be spring here | |
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| 08:52 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 08:52 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 0.0°C (9:20 AM CET on November 04, 2015). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:52 | drojf | eeek |
| 08:52 | Francesca | ugh cold |
| 08:52 | really cold | |
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| 08:53 | Francesca | don't envy you right now drojf |
| 08:56 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:56 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (9:50 AM CET on November 04, 2015). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:56 | magnuse | nice! |
| 08:58 | drojf | you're a fanof light rain, magnuse? :) |
| 08:58 | *fan of | |
| 08:58 | oh, it does not even say light :D | |
| 08:59 | Francesca | you're a fan of rain, magnuse? |
| 08:59 | magnuse | nah, was mostly thinking about the temp |
| 08:59 | cait | we still need volunteers testing things for the release |
| 08:59 | magnuse | not raining right now, though |
| 08:59 | * cait | tries to recruit |
| 09:00 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 09:00 | drojf | cait: sorry, busy talking about the weather |
| 09:00 | * drojf | hides |
| 09:00 | cait | oh come on.... dates patches |
| 09:00 | * magnuse | tries to bully himeself into completing the last bit of testing of the ncip code, for now |
| 09:00 | cait | bug 15112 is also nice |
| 09:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15112 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Make greybox consistent size across label and patron card creator |
| 09:01 | cait | bug 14954 |
| 09:01 | * Francesca | wishes there were more webpages to style |
| 09:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14954 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from holiday related files in folder tools |
| 09:01 | cait | bug 14954 |
| 09:01 | magnuse | you just said that :-) |
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| 09:02 | cait | well, it's till there and needs testing! |
| 09:02 | Francesca | at least bugzilla looks like koha now |
| 09:02 | cait | Francesca: yep - nice :) |
| 09:02 | you could make christmas themes maybe - for the dashboard | |
| 09:02 | i loved the halloween one | |
| 09:02 | Francesca | not yet |
| 09:03 | but i shall do mulitple christmas themes come december | |
| 09:03 | just gotta wait for december | |
| 09:03 | cait | :) |
| 09:03 | Viktor: looking for testing volunteers... | |
| 09:03 | magnuse | ooh, Viktor looks like he might be ready for a signoff or two |
| 09:03 | cait | he is so nice... he just can't say no, right? |
| 09:04 | Viktor | Which one are we talking about? |
| 09:04 | cait | bug 15112 |
| 09:04 | wahanui | bug 15112 is nice |
| 09:05 | cait | or one of the C4:::Dates patches would be awesome |
| 09:05 | Francesca | where is huginn |
| 09:05 | wahanui | i think huginn is a weather forecaster |
| 09:05 | cait | the numbers for those are 14998 14985 14969 14965 14960 14954 14946 |
| 09:05 | dependency tree with them all is here, if you mouse over you can see which still need sign-off | |
| 09:06 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]0&hide_resolved=1 | |
| 09:06 | Viktor | I'll ask if bumby can have a look while waiting for input on the prio1 we're doing right now. |
| 09:06 | cait | oh the prio1 |
| 09:06 | what's the prio1? :) *curious* | |
| 09:08 | and remember all... today is election meeting! | |
| 09:08 | in an hour | |
| 09:08 | drojf: can i recruit you to send a reminder to the mailing list? | |
| 09:09 | Viktor | Connection to central people registration in sweden, payments online through opac, different categories for the same patron (in some use cases), connecting ILL to Libris, expose e-books borrowing in the "My loans" on Opac. And not least getting the items and not only the records into Koha when ordering from our vendors. |
| 09:10 | (Though he's not working on all of those at once and they're not even briefed. But we'll want to make them happen if possible) | |
| 09:11 | Francesca | probably time I was sleeping, night #koha |
| 09:12 | Viktor | Xarragon is working on finishing up the CMS system and is then going to add listing of "extended patron attributes" to ILS-DI and customize getStatus to make it work with Libris who wants to match on the 001-data |
| 09:14 | Myself I'm frustrated about our overdues patches. I though it was a general improvement that broke nothing and added flexibility but it's one that we burned lots of time and money on. | |
| 09:15 | (Also I'm having a bad day - sorry if it sounded unnecessary cranky) | |
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| 09:21 | magnuse | Oak |
| 09:23 | drojf | cait: oh, meeting? 10 utc? |
| 09:23 | i'm very good at missing meetings lately :( | |
| 09:23 | that is a skill, right? | |
| 09:24 | cait | Viktor: i understand cranky, feeling a bit off myself today. lots of those sound really interesting |
| 09:24 | Viktor: have you seen kyle's patch for order marc records? | |
| 09:24 | it could go in the directin fo your vendor/items dev | |
| 09:24 | drojf: i think so, but please double check http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_4_November_2015 | |
| 09:26 | drojf | okwill send an email and run to the office ;) |
| 09:26 | cait | great thx |
| 09:27 | drojf | got a junk mail from "office office". that must be a sign |
| 09:28 | magnuse | looks like the meeting is ~0.5 hours away |
| 09:28 | Viktor | cait Thanks no I missed that. Will have to have a look. |
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| 09:29 | cait | Viktor: i have to admit that i had problems testing it - because i didn't quite undertand the use case. but maybe we can clear that up a bit :) |
| 09:30 | bug 10877 | |
| 09:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10877 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add "Order Record" processing |
| 09:32 | drojf | email sent |
| 09:32 | cait | drojf++ |
| 09:33 | drojf | gotta run, hope to be there in time. later #koha |
| 09:36 | magnuse | drojf++ |
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| 09:39 | * andreashm | waves |
| 09:40 | * magnuse | waves back |
| 09:40 | cait | andreashm: what did i read? you are moving? |
| 09:40 | * Viktor | waves at andreashm |
| 09:41 | magnuse | cait: closer to you, i think :-) |
| 09:41 | bag | alright I was trying to stay awake for the meeting |
| 09:41 | but I am pooped | |
| 09:41 | sorry all - catch you in channel tomorrow - night night | |
| 09:41 | magnuse: knuckles dood | |
| 09:42 | I gave a copy of my notes to cait for the koha fund news - we’ve got some great news :) | |
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| 09:43 | magnuse | bag: HI |
| 09:43 | indradg | aloha #koha |
| 09:43 | * magnuse | sends bag some instant coffee |
| 09:46 | magnuse | hiya indradg |
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| 09:46 | * indradg | waves at magnuse |
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| 09:48 | cait | morning tcohen :) |
| 09:48 | tcohen | *yawn* |
| 09:48 | hi cait | |
| 09:49 | cait | how early is it for you? |
| 09:49 | Amit_Gupta | hi cait |
| 09:49 | hi tcohen | |
| 09:50 | tcohen | 6:50 |
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| 09:55 | cait | get ready everyone... 5 mins |
| 09:56 | * tcohen | seeks for the biggest mug to prepare coffee |
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| 09:57 | cait | getting full on #koha :) |
| 09:58 | tcohen | hi tajoli bgkriegel_p |
| 09:58 | bgkriegel_p | Hi all, by phone :) |
| 09:59 | cait | morning bgkriegel_p :) |
| 09:59 | ok, let's get this started | |
| 09:59 | tajoli | Hi all |
| 10:00 | cait | #startmeeting General IRC meeting 4 November 2015 |
| 10:00 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Nov 4 10:00:10 2015 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 10:00 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 10:00 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 November 2015) | |
| 10:00 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_4_november_2015' |
| 10:00 | cait | #topic Introductions |
| 10:00 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 10:00 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 November 2015) | |
| 10:00 | eythian | #info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT, Wellington |
| 10:00 | cait | please introduce yourself with #info, following wahanui's example |
| 10:00 | today's agenda is | |
| 10:00 | #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_4_November_2015 | |
| 10:00 | tcohen | #info Tomás Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions |
| 10:01 | magnuse | #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway |
| 10:01 | bgkriegel_p | #info Bernardo González Kriegel |
| 10:01 | wnickc | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 10:01 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 10:01 | indradg | #info Indranil Das Gupta, L2C2 Tech, India |
| 10:02 | tajoli | Zeno Tajoli, CINECA, Italy |
| 10:02 | fredericd | #info Frédéric Demians, Tamil, France |
| 10:02 | tajoli | #info Zeno Tajoli, CINECA, Italy |
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| 10:03 | cait | drojf: intro please :) |
| 10:03 | drojf | sorry, late :) |
| 10:03 | #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany | |
| 10:03 | cait | moving on to the next topic, see agenda above |
| 10:03 | xarragon | Hm, is OPACBaseURL supposed to point to 127.0.1.1:8080? |
| 10:03 | cait | #topic Announcements |
| 10:03 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 November 2015) | |
| 10:04 | xarragon | Or how do i form a link to an OPAC page from the staff itnerface? |
| 10:04 | cait | xarragon: it should be http(s):// and then the base url or your opac |
| 10:04 | of your opac... but in a meeting now, maybe ask a little later | |
| 10:04 | Any announcements? tcohen? | |
| 10:04 | tcohen | Koha.Preference('OPACBaseUrl') |
| 10:05 | ah yes | |
| 10:05 | xarragon | tcohen: Ok, I was using the variable exposed by the get_template_and_foobar() call.. |
| 10:06 | tcohen | Only that by the end of the week we need to have a beta release, so feature freeze is approaching |
| 10:06 | it will depend on how involved people are on fixing bugs | |
| 10:06 | the more people, the less time i need to spend on fixing bugs | |
| 10:06 | so more time to push things | |
| 10:07 | that's why we set the trello board | |
| 10:07 | so people notice things that need attention | |
| 10:07 | cait | #link https://trello.com/b/U2qRMwJO/3-22-blockers |
| 10:07 | xarragon | tcohen: Ah, I have not set that preference |
| 10:07 | tcohen: Thanks for the help | |
| 10:07 | tcohen | right now, there aren't big issues (in general) |
| 10:07 | but there are a couple problems in Plack | |
| 10:08 | cait | bug 15032 |
| 10:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15032 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Plack testing -- Stage MARC records for import -- Internal Server Error/Stalled Staged Import |
| 10:08 | tcohen | that require people to spend hours debugging them |
| 10:08 | cait | bug 14743 |
| 10:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14743 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , addorder.pl redirect problems under plack behind apache 2.4.10 |
| 10:08 | tajoli | thomas, trello is private |
| 10:08 | eythian | also proprietary |
| 10:08 | indradg | + 1 tajoli |
| 10:08 | tcohen | yeah, specially 15032, which is a bit tricky, and looks like an integration issue, somehow |
| 10:08 | tajoli: not anymore | |
| 10:08 | cait | there are also some plack problems in the 'needs QA' queue - i am nto there yet with plack, so help appreciated |
| 10:09 | tcohen | eythian: next time we'll use taiga |
| 10:09 | eythian | :) |
| 10:09 | indradg | thanks tcohen |
| 10:09 | tcohen | so I'll be focusing on the plack issues |
| 10:10 | and pushing enhancements until friday/saturday | |
| 10:10 | that's all the announcements | |
| 10:10 | cait | there are also some patches releated to removing the old outdated C4::Dates package, that need testing still http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]0&hide_resolved=1 for an overview (mouse over to see status) |
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| 10:11 | cait | #info Koha Beta to be relesased by end of week, so features will only be pushed until then |
| 10:11 | #info Please help fix/text open bugs as noted on the (now public) trello board | |
| 10:11 | questions for further announcements? | |
| 10:11 | tajoli | About SQL setup (non MARC) translation |
| 10:12 | tcohen | there might be missing bugs on that propietary board, though, please add them or speak up |
| 10:12 | tajoli | This week or later ? |
| 10:12 | tcohen | ? |
| 10:12 | cait | #info please let us know if something is missing on the Trello board - so it can be added (or add yourself if you have an account) |
| 10:12 | tajoli: i think a part of those have already been pushed | |
| 10:12 | tajoli | All SQL files that have stings to transalte (no MARC) |
| 10:13 | cait | or do you mean the web installer files? |
| 10:13 | tajoli | Yes web installer files |
| 10:13 | wahanui | web installer files are sql files |
| 10:13 | tcohen | tajoli: what about them? |
| 10:13 | ah | |
| 10:13 | cait | translating the new notices and all that |
| 10:13 | tcohen | don't worry about that tajoli |
| 10:13 | tajoli | do we prefer to transalte them this week or later |
| 10:14 | ? | |
| 10:14 | tcohen | it can happen after the beta |
| 10:14 | mveron | #info Marc Véron, Allschwil, Koha Support Schweiz |
| 10:14 | xarragon | tcohen: AHA, that's whatw as wrong actually.. It is not set as a template variable by the get_template_and_auth, so it was empty, and browser just defaulted to the same document. |
| 10:14 | cait | might make sense too - in case you push more changes :) |
| 10:14 | moving on? | |
| 10:14 | tcohen | sure |
| 10:14 | xarragon | tcohen: So I found a bug of mine there thanks to you! |
| 10:14 | cait | #topic KohaCon15 |
| 10:14 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon15 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 November 2015) | |
| 10:14 | * magnuse | hopes to do an update of the nb-NO web installer files |
| 10:14 | cait | It happened! :) |
| 10:15 | magnuse | yay! |
| 10:15 | cait | rangi has some summaries and information about it on his blogs - feedback seemed quite positive |
| 10:15 | nigeria_kohacon_organizers++ | |
| 10:15 | magnuse | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/tag/kohacon15/ |
| 10:15 | tcohen | nigeria_kohacon_organizers++ |
| 10:15 | cait | #link http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/tag/kohacon15/ |
| 10:16 | magnuse | nigeria_kohacon_organizers++ |
| 10:16 | cait | something to add here? |
| 10:16 | Moving on then | |
| 10:17 | tcohen | yeap |
| 10:17 | cait | #topic Elections of the release team for Koha 3.24 |
| 10:17 | Topic for #koha is now Elections of the release team for Koha 3.24 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 November 2015) | |
| 10:17 | cait | ok, before we start with voting |
| 10:18 | are there questions about the proposals, roles or procedure? | |
| 10:18 | bag | #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater Solutions |
| 10:18 | waves from his sleep | |
| 10:18 | cait | sleep walking RM-candidate... |
| 10:18 | drojf | sleepwalking release manager, awesome |
| 10:18 | cait | jinx |
| 10:19 | drojf | :D |
| 10:19 | magnuse | or sleepvoting |
| 10:19 | * bag | no vote ;) |
| 10:19 | cait | don't sleep and push... |
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| 10:19 | cait | ok, so we got no questions? |
| 10:19 | bag | friends don’t let friends sleep and push |
| 10:19 | cait | i'd like to do a group vote for the roles with multiple names people under one of the bold headings |
| 10:19 | does that work for everyone? | |
| 10:19 | #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.24 | |
| 10:19 | drojf | +1 |
| 10:20 | mveron | +1 |
| 10:20 | tcohen | +1 |
| 10:20 | cait | otherwise, we will work top to bottom |
| 10:20 | tajoli | +1 |
| 10:20 | cait | now i need to figure out the vote bot again, give me a little moment |
| 10:20 | #startvote help | |
| 10:20 | huginn | Unable to parse vote topic and options. |
| 10:20 | cait | hm |
| 10:21 | and if someone knows how to see the help page ... :) | |
| 10:21 | eythian | @help startvote |
| 10:21 | huginn | eythian: Error: There is no command "startvote". |
| 10:21 | eythian | #help startvote |
| 10:21 | cait | @help startvote |
| 10:21 | huginn | cait: Error: There is no command "startvote". |
| 10:21 | * eythian | fails to help |
| 10:21 | drojf | @help start vote |
| 10:21 | huginn | drojf: Error: There is no command "start vote". |
| 10:21 | drojf | worth a try |
| 10:21 | eythian: no more package management for you? | |
| 10:21 | magnuse | @help startvote |
| 10:21 | huginn | magnuse: Error: There is no command "startvote". |
| 10:22 | cait | #startvote Do you agree with Brendan Gallagher (bag) to be our next RM? (yes,no) |
| 10:22 | huginn | Begin voting on: Do you agree with Brendan Gallagher (bag) to be our next RM? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . |
| 10:22 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 10:22 | Hugo__ joined #koha | |
| 10:22 | eythian | drojf: nope, passing the torch, found a willing victim :) |
| 10:22 | schnydszch joined #koha | |
| 10:22 | cait | phrasing it as a question is kind of hard |
| 10:22 | magnuse | #vote yes |
| 10:22 | tcohen | do you support… |
| 10:22 | cait | Brendan's proposal can be found here btw |
| 10:22 | jajm | #vote yes |
| 10:22 | tajoli | #vote yes |
| 10:22 | cait | #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Proposal |
| 10:22 | tcohen | #vote yes |
| 10:22 | mveron | #vote yes |
| 10:22 | cait | #vote yes |
| 10:22 | drojf | #vote yes |
| 10:23 | cait | tcohen: that's good, will use it next time |
| 10:23 | drojf | good proposal, bad link (if that is the correct link) |
| 10:23 | cait | hm works for me |
| 10:23 | tcohen | cait: so you are signing to chair in six months? |
| 10:23 | drojf | (just calling the page proposal i mean) |
| 10:23 | magnuse | i moved it |
| 10:23 | drojf | magnuse++ |
| 10:23 | eythian | #vote yes |
| 10:23 | schnydszch | #info Eugene Espinoza Philippines. Sorry it's the monthly meeting. :) |
| 10:24 | cait | tcohen: ? |
| 10:24 | magnuse | #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_3.24_RM_proposal |
| 10:24 | Hugo__ left #koha | |
| 10:24 | cait | ending the vote in a moment... |
| 10:24 | fredericd | #vote yes |
| 10:24 | cait | #endvote |
| 10:24 | huginn | Voted on "Do you agree with Brendan Gallagher (bag) to be our next RM?" Results are |
| 10:24 | yes (9): magnuse, cait, eythian, jajm, fredericd, tajoli, tcohen, drojf, mveron | |
| 10:24 | cait | ah nice, it works this time |
| 10:24 | schnydszch | #vote yes |
| 10:25 | cait | #agreed RM: Brendan Gallagher yes (9): magnuse, cait, eythian, jajm, fredericd, tajoli, tcohen, drojf, mveron (+1 yes after ending the vote) |
| 10:25 | magnuse | congrats bag! |
| 10:25 | eythian | poor bag ;) |
| 10:25 | tcohen | congratulations Brendan! |
| 10:25 | bag++ | |
| 10:25 | drojf | bag++ |
| 10:25 | mveron | bag++ |
| 10:25 | cait | #startvote Do you support Julian Maurice (3.22), Fréderic Demians (3.20), Liz Rea (3.18) as Release Maintainers? (yes,no) |
| 10:26 | huginn | Begin voting on: Do you support Julian Maurice (3.22), Fréderic Demians (3.20), Liz Rea (3.18) as Release Maintainers? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . |
| 10:26 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 10:26 | cait | #vote yes |
| 10:26 | eythian | #vote yes |
| 10:26 | schnydszch | #vote yes |
| 10:26 | tajoli | #vote yes |
| 10:26 | wnickc | #vote yes |
| 10:26 | mveron | #vote yes |
| 10:26 | drojf | #vote yes |
| 10:26 | magnuse | #vote yes |
| 10:26 | fredericd | #vote yes |
| 10:26 | jajm | #vote yes |
| 10:26 | tcohen | #vote yes |
| 10:27 | cait | ending the vote in a moment |
| 10:27 | oh and congrats bag of course :) | |
| 10:27 | #endvote | |
| 10:27 | huginn | Voted on "Do you support Julian Maurice (3.22), Fréderic Demians (3.20), Liz Rea (3.18) as Release Maintainers?" Results are |
| 10:27 | yes (11): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, wnickc, jajm, fredericd, cait, mveron, tcohen, drojf, schnydszch | |
| 10:28 | HAgud joined #koha | |
| 10:28 | cait | #agreed Release maintainers: Julian Maurice (3.22), Fréderic Demians (3.20), Liz Rea (3.18). yes (11): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, wnickc, jajm, fredericd, cait, mveron, tcohen, drojf, schnydszch |
| 10:28 | #startvote Do you support as Module Maintainers: Jesse Weaver for Administration, Fréderic Demians for OAI-Server, Kyle Hall for Circulation and SIP? (yes,no) | |
| 10:28 | huginn | Begin voting on: Do you support as Module Maintainers: Jesse Weaver for Administration, Fréderic Demians for OAI-Server, Kyle Hall for Circulation and SIP? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . |
| 10:28 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 10:28 | magnuse | #vote yes |
| 10:28 | eythian | #vote yes |
| 10:28 | tcohen | #vote yes |
| 10:28 | mveron | #vote yes |
| 10:28 | tajoli | #vote yes |
| 10:28 | drojf | #vote yes |
| 10:28 | wnickc | #vote yes |
| 10:28 | jajm | #vote yes |
| 10:29 | fredericd | #vote yes |
| 10:29 | bgkriegel joined #koha | |
| 10:29 | cait | #vote yes |
| 10:29 | closing vote in a moment | |
| 10:29 | bgkriegel | #vote yes |
| 10:30 | cait | #endvote |
| 10:30 | huginn | Voted on "Do you support as Module Maintainers: Jesse Weaver for Administration, Fréderic Demians for OAI-Server, Kyle Hall for Circulation and SIP?" Results are |
| 10:30 | yes (11): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, wnickc, jajm, fredericd, mveron, cait, drojf, bgkriegel, tcohen | |
| 10:30 | schnydszch | #vote yes |
| 10:30 | cait | #agreed Module Maintainers: Jesse Weaver for Administration, Fréderic Demians for OAI-Server, Kyle Hall for Circulation and SIP. yes (11): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, wnickc, jajm, fredericd, mveron, cait, drojf, bgkriegel, tcohen |
| 10:30 | #startvote Do you support Bernardo González Kriegel as Translation manager? (yes,no) | |
| 10:30 | huginn | Begin voting on: Do you support Bernardo González Kriegel as Translation manager? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . |
| 10:30 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 10:30 | * cait | just hopes she typed all the names right |
| 10:30 | schnydszch | #vote yes |
| 10:31 | cait | #vote yes |
| 10:31 | drojf | #vote yes |
| 10:31 | mveron | #vote yes |
| 10:31 | tcohen | #vote yes |
| 10:31 | tajoli | #vote yes |
| 10:31 | eythian | #vote yes |
| 10:31 | jajm | #vote yes |
| 10:31 | tcohen | thanks bgkriegel! |
| 10:31 | fredericd | #vote yes |
| 10:31 | wnickc | #vote yes |
| 10:31 | magnuse | #vote yes |
| 10:31 | cait | bgkriegel++ :) |
| 10:31 | bgkriegel | :) |
| 10:31 | HAgud | #vote yes |
| 10:32 | cait | ending vote in a moment |
| 10:32 | bag | back ha thanks for the support all |
| 10:32 | * bag | will still stay out of it for now |
| 10:32 | cait | #endvote |
| 10:32 | huginn | Voted on "Do you support Bernardo González Kriegel as Translation manager?" Results are |
| 10:32 | yes (12): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, fredericd, cait, mveron, schnydszch, drojf, tcohen | |
| 10:32 | cait | more and more people waking up :) |
| 10:32 | #agreed Translation Manager: Bernardo González Kriegel. yes (12): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, fredericd, cait, mveron, schnydszch, drojf, tcohen | |
| 10:32 | eythian | but it's bedtime |
| 10:33 | bgkriegel | thanks to all :) |
| 10:33 | cait | I will combine the next too if noone vetoes :) |
| 10:33 | thx to you! :) | |
| 10:33 | magnuse | go cait go :-) |
| 10:33 | cait | #startvote Do you support Nicole Engard as Documentation Manager and Database Documentation Manager? (yes,no) |
| 10:33 | huginn | Begin voting on: Do you support Nicole Engard as Documentation Manager and Database Documentation Manager? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . |
| 10:33 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 10:33 | eythian | #vote yes |
| 10:33 | cait | #vote yes |
| 10:33 | tcohen | #vote yes |
| 10:33 | bgkriegel | #vote yes |
| 10:33 | mveron | #vote yes |
| 10:33 | tajoli | #vote yes |
| 10:33 | wnickc | #vote yes |
| 10:33 | jajm | #vote yes |
| 10:33 | HAgud | #vote yes |
| 10:33 | magnuse | #vote yes |
| 10:34 | fredericd | #vote yes |
| 10:34 | cait | closing vote in a moment |
| 10:34 | #endvote | |
| 10:34 | huginn | Voted on "Do you support Nicole Engard as Documentation Manager and Database Documentation Manager?" Results are |
| 10:34 | yes (11): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, fredericd, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, cait, mveron, tcohen, bgkriegel | |
| 10:34 | cait | #agreed Documentation Manager and Database Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard. yes (11): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, fredericd, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, cait, mveron, tcohen, bgkriegel |
| 10:34 | #chair drojf | |
| 10:34 | huginn | Current chairs: cait drojf |
| 10:34 | drojf | ok, taking over for cait briefly so she can concentrate on being elected :) |
| 10:34 | cait | handing over to drojf |
| 10:34 | schnydszch | #vote yes |
| 10:34 | drojf | #startvote Do you support Katrin Fischer to continue her work as QA Manager? (yes,no) |
| 10:34 | huginn | Begin voting on: Do you support Katrin Fischer to continue her work as QA Manager? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . |
| 10:34 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 10:35 | bgkriegel | #vote yes |
| 10:35 | jajm | #vote yes |
| 10:35 | wnickc | #vote yes |
| 10:35 | fredericd | #vote yes |
| 10:35 | mveron | #vote yes |
| 10:35 | tcohen | #vote yes |
| 10:35 | eythian | #vote yes |
| 10:35 | magnuse | #vote yes |
| 10:35 | HAgud | #vote yes |
| 10:35 | drojf | closing vote in a minute |
| 10:35 | schnydszch | #vote yes |
| 10:36 | drojf | #endvote |
| 10:36 | huginn | Voted on "Do you support Katrin Fischer to continue her work as QA Manager?" Results are |
| 10:36 | yes (10): magnuse, fredericd, eythian, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, mveron, tcohen, schnydszch, bgkriegel | |
| 10:36 | drojf | #agreed: QA Manager: Katrin Fischer yes (10): magnuse, fredericd, eythian, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, mveron, tcohen, schnydszch, bgkriegel |
| 10:36 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 10:36 | tcohen | cait++ |
| 10:36 | drojf | oh damn i forgot to vote myself |
| 10:37 | eythian | haha |
| 10:37 | drojf | sorry :) for the record #vote yes |
| 10:37 | tcohen | so ou don't support her |
| 10:37 | drojf | handing back to cait |
| 10:37 | cait | *sobs* |
| 10:37 | ;) | |
| 10:37 | mveron | cait ++ |
| 10:37 | drojf | i can only do one thing at a time :'( |
| 10:37 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 10:38 | tajoli | sorry, dealy. for the record #vote yes |
| 10:38 | thd | #vote yes |
| 10:38 | drojf | ok i'll do qa team too, just a sec |
| 10:39 | #startvote Do you support Marcel de Rooy, Jesse Weaver, Paul Poulain, Kyle M Hall, Tomas Cohen Arazi and Jonathan Druart to be the new Quality Assurance (QA) Team? (yes,no) | |
| 10:39 | huginn | Begin voting on: Do you support Marcel de Rooy, Jesse Weaver, Paul Poulain, Kyle M Hall, Tomas Cohen Arazi and Jonathan Druart to be the new Quality Assurance (QA) Team? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . |
| 10:39 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 10:39 | mveron | #vote yes |
| 10:39 | jajm | #vote yes |
| 10:39 | eythian | #vote yes |
| 10:39 | tcohen | #vote yes |
| 10:39 | drojf | #vote yes |
| 10:39 | wnickc | #vote yes |
| 10:39 | bgkriegel | #vote yes |
| 10:39 | HAgud | #vote yes |
| 10:39 | schnydszch | #vote yes |
| 10:40 | wnickc | zaphod |
| 10:40 | fredericd | #vote yes |
| 10:40 | wnickc | oops |
| 10:40 | eythian | tcohen: voting for yourself eh? ;) |
| 10:40 | thd | #vote yes |
| 10:40 | magnuse | #vote yes |
| 10:40 | tajoli | #vote yes |
| 10:40 | tcohen | eythian: at this point i'm shameless |
| 10:40 | eythian | heh |
| 10:40 | * cait | is very happy about the QA team :) |
| 10:40 | drojf | closing vote in a moment |
| 10:40 | cait | #vote yes |
| 10:41 | tcohen | all your sheeps |
| 10:41 | drojf | #endvote |
| 10:41 | huginn | Voted on "Do you support Marcel de Rooy, Jesse Weaver, Paul Poulain, Kyle M Hall, Tomas Cohen Arazi and Jonathan Druart to be the new Quality Assurance (QA) Team?" Results are |
| 10:41 | yes (14): magnuse, fredericd, eythian, wnickc, jajm, cait, HAgud, tajoli, mveron, thd, schnydszch, drojf, bgkriegel, tcohen | |
| 10:42 | drojf | #agreed: Quality Assurance (QA) Team: Marcel de Rooy, Jesse Weaver, Paul Poulain, Kyle M Hall, Tomas Cohen Arazi and Jonathan Druart: yes (14): magnuse, fredericd, eythian, wnickc, jajm, cait, HAgud, tajoli, mveron, thd, schnydszch, drojf, bgkriegel, tcohen |
| 10:42 | cait | :) |
| 10:42 | I will continue now :) | |
| 10:42 | drojf | handing back to the old and new qa manager/chair person |
| 10:42 | cait | #startvote Do you support Galen Charlton as Packaging Manager? (yes,no) |
| 10:42 | huginn | Begin voting on: Do you support Galen Charlton as Packaging Manager? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . |
| 10:42 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 10:42 | eythian | #vote yes |
| 10:42 | tcohen | #vote yes |
| 10:42 | fredericd | #vote yes |
| 10:42 | thd | #vote yes |
| 10:42 | eythian | #vote yes |
| 10:42 | mveron | #vote yes |
| 10:42 | drojf | #vote yes |
| 10:42 | magnuse | #vote yes |
| 10:42 | tajoli | #vote yes |
| 10:42 | eythian | #vote yes |
| 10:43 | cait | and eythian++ for all the hard work done |
| 10:43 | HAgud | #vote yes |
| 10:43 | eythian | #vote no |
| 10:43 | cait | #vote yes |
| 10:43 | eythian | just kidding |
| 10:43 | #vote yes | |
| 10:43 | magnuse | eythian++ |
| 10:43 | wnickc | #vote yes |
| 10:43 | bgkriegel | #vote yes |
| 10:43 | tcohen | eythian++ |
| 10:43 | schnydszch | #vote yes |
| 10:43 | eythian | :) |
| 10:43 | jajm | #vote yes |
| 10:43 | tcohen | gmcharlt++ |
| 10:43 | eythian | #vote yes |
| 10:43 | indradg | #vote yes |
| 10:43 | cait | closing vote in a moment |
| 10:43 | eythian | #vote yes |
| 10:44 | cait | #endvote |
| 10:44 | huginn | Voted on "Do you support Galen Charlton as Packaging Manager?" Results are |
| 10:44 | yes (15): magnuse, fredericd, eythian, schnydszch, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, tajoli, indradg, mveron, cait, thd, drojf, bgkriegel, tcohen | |
| 10:44 | eythian | #vote yes |
| 10:44 | magnuse | question about the "Continous integration infrastructure maintainer" role: bag mentioned something about CI in his proposal - will tcohen in this role (potentially) conflict with bag's plans? |
| 10:44 | cait | #agreed Packaging Manager: Galen Charlton. yes (15): magnuse, fredericd, eythian, schnydszch, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, tajoli, indradg, mveron, cait, thd, drojf, bgkriegel, tcohen |
| 10:44 | tcohen | i'm not sure we'll conflict |
| 10:44 | magnuse | gmcharlt++ |
| 10:45 | tcohen | my idea is taking care of the continous integration infrastructure tp |
| 10:45 | to | |
| 10:45 | 1) make it more useful | |
| 10:45 | drojf | every time i am highlighted after a vote ends i am in fear i volunteered for something being half asleep |
| 10:45 | tcohen | 2) go beyond testing: packaging automation and doc generation |
| 10:46 | eythian | drojf: secretly you are being voted for every role |
| 10:46 | magnuse | bag said in his proposal: "Jesse Weaver (Pianohacker) and Kyle Hall - help me with the tech and will be on the QA team. [...] One of them will be responsible as the Jenkins manager since I will need help there." |
| 10:46 | drojf | tcohen: i think bag had someone appointed to do jenkins stuff in his proposal, that is probably what magnuse is talking about |
| 10:46 | ah he can explain it better himself :) | |
| 10:46 | cait | bag? :) |
| 10:46 | might have fallen asleep now | |
| 10:46 | magnuse | yup |
| 10:46 | cait | my feeling is, that it won't conflict -t here is lots to do |
| 10:47 | tcohen | bag |
| 10:47 | magnuse | yeah, same for me, i just wanted to point it out |
| 10:47 | drojf | i suppose the more people volunteer on doing stuff, the better |
| 10:47 | tcohen | magnuse: it makes sense |
| 10:47 | drojf | otherwise you will challenge each other to a duel and sort it out |
| 10:47 | cait | hehe |
| 10:47 | magnuse | "chief jenkins assistant to the rm" |
| 10:47 | cait | bug squash duel! |
| 10:48 | magnuse | yeah! |
| 10:48 | now we're talking | |
| 10:48 | indradg | heh |
| 10:48 | eythian | vservers at dawn |
| 10:48 | magnuse | well, if bag is asleep let's just vote and leave the duelling for later |
| 10:48 | cait | ok |
| 10:48 | #startvote Continous integration infrastructure maintainer (a.k.a. Jenkins): Tomas Cohen Arazi | |
| 10:48 | huginn | Unable to parse vote topic and options. |
| 10:48 | indradg | magnuse+ |
| 10:48 | tcohen | hm |
| 10:48 | cait | oh sec |
| 10:48 | drojf | needs answer options |
| 10:48 | cait | #startvote Do you support as Continous integration infrastructure maintainer (a.k.a. Jenkins): Tomas Cohen Arazi? (yes,no) |
| 10:48 | huginn | Begin voting on: Do you support as Continous integration infrastructure maintainer (a.k.a. Jenkins): Tomas Cohen Arazi? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . |
| 10:48 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 10:48 | magnuse | #vote yes |
| 10:49 | eythian | #vote yes |
| 10:49 | mveron | #vote yes |
| 10:49 | cait | #vote yes |
| 10:49 | HAgud | #vote yes |
| 10:49 | jajm | #vote yes |
| 10:49 | indradg | #vote yes |
| 10:49 | wnickc | #vote yes |
| 10:49 | thd | #vote yes |
| 10:49 | fredericd | #vote yes |
| 10:49 | drojf | #vote yes |
| 10:49 | i'm so tired, did i vote twice now? | |
| 10:49 | bgkriegel | #vote yes |
| 10:49 | tcohen | drojf: no |
| 10:50 | tajoli | #vote yes |
| 10:50 | magnuse | drojf: even if you did, the bot would keep track of it :-) |
| 10:50 | cait | ending vote in a moment |
| 10:50 | drojf | i know :) |
| 10:50 | cait | #endvote |
| 10:50 | huginn | Voted on "Do you support as Continous integration infrastructure maintainer (a.k.a. Jenkins): Tomas Cohen Arazi?" Results are |
| 10:50 | yes (13): magnuse, cait, eythian, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, fredericd, indradg, mveron, thd, drojf, tajoli, bgkriegel | |
| 10:51 | tcohen | #info tcohen will duel brendan's guys if there is a conflict |
| 10:51 | magnuse | yay! |
| 10:51 | cait | #agreed Continous integration infrastructure maintainer (a.k.a. Jenkins): Tomas Cohen Arazi. yes (13): magnuse, cait, eythian, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, fredericd, indradg, mveron, thd, drojf, tajoli, bgkriegel |
| 10:51 | mveron | Question: Can I still join the Bug Wranglers? |
| 10:51 | cait | hehe |
| 10:51 | drojf | lol |
| 10:51 | mveron: yes | |
| 10:51 | magnuse | mveron: if you hurry :-) |
| 10:51 | drojf | do it now! |
| 10:51 | tcohen | mveron: you ARE a bug wrangler |
| 10:51 | mveron | Ok |
| 10:51 | drojf | mveron++ |
| 10:51 | tcohen | mveron++ |
| 10:51 | thd | mveron++ |
| 10:51 | cait | please add yourself to the wiki |
| 10:51 | i will add you to my voting thing :) | |
| 10:52 | * mveron | can not login to the wiki at the moment |
| 10:53 | * magnuse | can do it |
| 10:53 | cait | #startvote Do you support as Bug Wranglers: Magnus Enger, Mirko Tietgen, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Marc Véron? (yes,no) |
| 10:53 | huginn | Begin voting on: Do you support as Bug Wranglers: Magnus Enger, Mirko Tietgen, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Marc Véron? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . |
| 10:53 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 10:53 | cait | #vote yes |
| 10:53 | jajm | #vote yes |
| 10:53 | drojf | oh tajoli sneaked in last minute too :) |
| 10:53 | swesome | |
| 10:53 | cait | yep :) |
| 10:53 | wnickc | #vote yes |
| 10:53 | thd | #vote yes |
| 10:53 | tcohen | #vote yes |
| 10:53 | eythian | mveron: I added you |
| 10:53 | HAgud | #vote yes |
| 10:53 | schnydszch | #vote yes |
| 10:53 | bgkriegel | #vote yes |
| 10:53 | cait | looks like we are going to have a great 3.24 release team :) |
| 10:53 | eythian | #vote yes |
| 10:53 | tajoli | in fact in the last hour |
| 10:53 | drojf | #vote yes |
| 10:53 | (for the others) | |
| 10:53 | indradg | #vote yes |
| 10:54 | magnuse | #vote yes |
| 10:54 | (for the others) | |
| 10:54 | cait | ending vote in a moment |
| 10:54 | #endvote | |
| 10:54 | huginn | Voted on "Do you support as Bug Wranglers: Magnus Enger, Mirko Tietgen, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Marc Véron?" Results are |
| 10:54 | yes (12): magnuse, cait, eythian, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, indradg, tcohen, thd, drojf, bgkriegel, schnydszch | |
| 10:54 | cait | #agreed Bug Wranglers: Magnus Enger, Mirko Tietgen, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Marc Véron. yes (12): magnuse, cait, eythian, wnickc, jajm, HAgud, indradg, tcohen, thd, drojf, bgkriegel, schnydszch |
| 10:54 | magnuse | w00t! |
| 10:55 | cait | last one everyone :) |
| 10:55 | #startvote Do you support Thomas Dukleth as Wiki Curator? (yes,no) | |
| 10:55 | huginn | Begin voting on: Do you support Thomas Dukleth as Wiki Curator? Valid vote options are , yes, no, . |
| 10:55 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 10:55 | tcohen | #vote yes |
| 10:55 | magnuse | #vote yes |
| 10:55 | cait | #vote yes |
| 10:55 | eythian | #vote yes |
| 10:55 | jajm | #vote yes |
| 10:55 | tajoli | #vote yes |
| 10:55 | fredericd | #vote yes |
| 10:55 | indradg | #vote yes |
| 10:55 | wnickc | #vote yes |
| 10:55 | schnydszch | #vote yes |
| 10:55 | mveron | #vote yes |
| 10:55 | thd | #vote yes |
| 10:55 | drojf | #vote yes |
| 10:55 | bgkriegel | #vote yes |
| 10:55 | HAgud | #vote yes |
| 10:56 | cait | closing vote in a moment |
| 10:56 | #endvote | |
| 10:56 | huginn | Voted on "Do you support Thomas Dukleth as Wiki Curator?" Results are |
| 10:56 | yes (15): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, wnickc, jajm, mveron, HAgud, cait, indradg, tcohen, thd, schnydszch, drojf, bgkriegel, fredericd | |
| 10:56 | cait | #agreed Wiki Curator: Thomas Dukleth. yes (15): magnuse, tajoli, eythian, wnickc, jajm, mveron, HAgud, cait, indradg, tcohen, thd, schnydszch, drojf, bgkriegel, fredericd |
| 10:56 | done :) | |
| 10:56 | thx everyone! | |
| 10:56 | tcohen | good night everyone |
| 10:56 | ah, no | |
| 10:56 | cait | hehe |
| 10:56 | tcohen | time to head to the office |
| 10:57 | mveron | thx cait and thx everybody |
| 10:57 | cait | #topic KohaCon16 + KohaCon17 |
| 10:57 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon16 + KohaCon17 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 November 2015) | |
| 10:57 | * eythian | skips off yelling "I'm free! I'm free!" |
| 10:57 | drojf | lol |
| 10:57 | cait | meeting is not over yet... |
| 10:57 | tcohen | eythian++ |
| 10:57 | cait | only the elections |
| 10:57 | eythian | that's what I meant :) |
| 10:57 | cait | is osmeone here from KohaCon16? |
| 10:57 | drojf | the way ex-managers of releases and other stuff celebrate once they are done is very encouraging to others :D |
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| 10:57 | tcohen | dh-make-free |
| 10:58 | eythian | tcohen++ |
| 10:58 | drojf | eythian++ |
| 10:58 | schnydszch | KohaCon16 Greece? |
| 10:58 | cait | drojf: he took care to find the next victim... so i htink we have to let him go :) |
| 10:58 | yes | |
| 10:58 | I think one of the questions is from drojf | |
| 10:58 | drojf | oh |
| 10:58 | cait | that we shoudl decide on a voting mechanism early on next time |
| 10:58 | drojf | ah yes |
| 10:58 | schnydszch | because I'm representing Phils. |
| 10:58 | cait | woudl you be ok pushing this to the next meeting? maybe with a little note about the options? |
| 10:58 | tcohen | oops, is late |
| 10:58 | later everyone | |
| 10:59 | * mveron | has to go... |
| 10:59 | drojf | yes that would be alright. we just should think about it "now", not when we have the next vote. because then there is no time again |
| 10:59 | magnuse | true |
| 10:59 | cait | agreed |
| 10:59 | but it hink easier to vote with some optiosn spelled out | |
| 10:59 | drojf | background being we had no fixed rules and made them up on the spot |
| 11:00 | magnuse | if someone could describe some alternatives before the next meeting we could have a vote |
| 11:00 | cait | #info Deciding on the voting mechanism for next KohaCon will be pushed to the next meeting - ideas and notes about mechanisms to vote on shoudl be added to the wiki before the next meeting |
| 11:00 | for KohaCon17 the question is about when to open the bids | |
| 11:00 | drojf | i have an event here right before that so i will maybe not be done in time, but i could try |
| 11:01 | thd | Alternatives become significant with more than two options to consider. |
| 11:01 | drojf | yes |
| 11:01 | magnuse | i see no harm in opening up for kohacon17 bids now |
| 11:02 | schnydszch | second the motion you magnuse |
| 11:02 | magnuse | where "opening up for bids" = having a page on the wiki where bidders can add themselves |
| 11:02 | cait | no problem there for me either |
| 11:02 | but we shoud remember to communicate early about when it will close | |
| 11:02 | drojf | mtompset copied the proposal of the philippines the second the last vote was over. while i am not against that at all, i would prefer asking "officially" for proposals before they come in |
| 11:02 | cait | and decide that with some time left :) |
| 11:02 | magnuse | we should just remember to send out a reminder about bidding in march or thereabouts |
| 11:03 | thd | I would be happy to create the page and advertise it next week. |
| 11:03 | drojf | so the question was if we just do it now/just do it immediately after a vote is over. which would be fine for me |
| 11:03 | cait | drojf: agreed |
| 11:03 | schnydszch | yeah apologies from the Philippines part if that's the case |
| 11:03 | cait | it's ok schnydszch - just trying to refine the workflow i think :) |
| 11:03 | woudl someone volunteer to send a note about the new page to the mailing lists? | |
| 11:03 | magnuse | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]haCon17_Proposals |
| 11:04 | schnydszch | :) cait |
| 11:04 | drojf | i also moves the page because it looked like the official page but said itw as only for the philippines proposal ;) |
| 11:04 | *moved | |
| 11:04 | magnuse | that page could be restored and slightly edited i thnk |
| 11:04 | looks like thd volunteered to advertise it :-) | |
| 11:04 | eythian | good thing theres a ... |
| 11:04 | yeah, what magnuse said :) | |
| 11:04 | cait | ah sorry, missed that - thx thd |
| 11:05 | thd | The page also needs an empty form. |
| 11:05 | cait | #action thd to create a new page for Koha bids 2017 and advertise on the mailing list |
| 11:05 | thd | Next week is after my current programming task :) |
| 11:06 | cait | anything else we shold looking into for kohacons? |
| 11:06 | tajoli | Sorry, about ElastichSearch. |
| 11:06 | Do we release it in 3.22 ? | |
| 11:06 | cait | #action all to add ideas about 'how to vote and how to count results' for KohaCon bids to the wiki to be voted on |
| 11:06 | magnuse | should we decide on when the bidding stops and when the voting happens |
| 11:06 | thd | Voting methods for counting votes with more than two options? |
| 11:06 | cait | tajoli: it doesn't look like it at the moment |
| 11:07 | ok, moving on | |
| 11:07 | #topic Update from the International Koha Fund committee | |
| 11:07 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the International Koha Fund committee (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 November 2015) | |
| 11:07 | eythian | tajoli: I'm still afraid of it causing breakage to regular workflows right at the moment. It's one of the things I'm looking into finding and fixing at the moment. |
| 11:07 | cait | bag has send me some notes to share with you all |
| 11:08 | #info The koha fund committee met recently - notes are found here on the wiki http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_15_October_2015 | |
| 11:08 | drojf | magnuse: i think we could leave that open for now, but indicate we are going to do it at some point and announce it early |
| 11:08 | cait | #info In summary - committee for collecting the money and creating fundraising opportunities seems to have a great start to it. |
| 11:08 | #info The part of the committee that makes recommendations to THT on how to spend money that is raised is being worked on. gmcharlt and BobB are in the process of writing the bylaws (rules) on how that committee portion should work. Of course anything that would need to pass etc, will be brought to the community for a vote. The next committee meeting date has not been set yet. | |
| 11:08 | #info Update that was passed along to me from Joann at THT on the account standing for the fund. So far 5 people have made donations to the fund using the donate now button on the home page http://koha-community.org The total amount in the fund is $181.28 (USD) | |
| 11:08 | drojf | magnuse: or we set a date we will always use. if that is an option. have not checked how that was done the last times |
| 11:08 | cait | anonymous_donators++ |
| 11:09 | argh, sorry, i saw now there were more topics to kohacon... | |
| 11:09 | not sure what's with my eyes | |
| 11:09 | thd | ;) |
| 11:09 | cait | was not intentional |
| 11:10 | thd: yes, but also for 2 options | |
| 11:10 | some people would have preferred ranked voting for 2 as wel | |
| 11:10 | so 1+ :) | |
| 11:10 | magnuse | drojf: yeah, just leave it open i guess |
| 11:10 | thd | Oh yes. |
| 11:10 | cait | and it hink i'd leave the end date open for now - but we should put a reminder in... maybe to be anounced later |
| 11:10 | drojf | we should talk about the kohacon voting stuff next meeting |
| 11:11 | cait | do we vote after the next kohacon? or before it? |
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| 11:11 | drojf | its early, i'd say after |
| 11:11 | cait | #action all - reminder: need to talk about dates for KohaCon bidding (end date for addings bids, when to vote, etc.) |
| 11:12 | anything for the fund committee? | |
| 11:12 | drojf | ok lets skip to the topic we are actually in :) |
| 11:13 | cait | I think it's awesome to see it moving - also that we got soem money already :) |
| 11:13 | hoping for more news soon | |
| 11:14 | * eythian | wonders if something like patreon is a good idea, though that's not really a discussion for now. |
| 11:14 | magnuse | could be! |
| 11:14 | cait | do you want me to add an.. info? is there idea too? |
| 11:14 | eythian | if you like |
| 11:15 | drojf | what is patreon? |
| 11:15 | magnuse | you can donate a monthly amount |
| 11:15 | eythian | drojf: it allows setting up recurring donations to a thing, basically |
| 11:15 | magnuse | rangi has a thing there for covering the cost of some server |
| 11:16 | eythian | I use it with a couple of podcasts I like, that sort of thing |
| 11:16 | cait | #idea something like patreon could be looked into |
| 11:16 | drojf | ok. does it keep as much of your money as flattr? |
| 11:16 | eythian | dunno |
| 11:17 | cait | oki to move on? |
| 11:18 | #topic Actions from General IRC Meeting 9 September 2015 | |
| 11:18 | Topic for #koha is now Actions from General IRC Meeting 9 September 2015 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 November 2015) | |
| 11:18 | drojf | if it is an option that brings more than we get without, we shoudl consider it |
| 11:18 | cait | #info all done |
| 11:18 | drojf | if its not evil in general ;) |
| 11:18 | cait | #topic Next Meeting |
| 11:18 | Topic for #koha is now Next Meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 4 November 2015) | |
| 11:19 | cait | 2 December 20 UTC? |
| 11:19 | *coughs* | |
| 11:20 | hm | |
| 11:20 | drojf | works for me |
| 11:20 | and better than 9 | |
| 11:20 | wnickc | sounds good |
| 11:20 | cait | #agreed Next meeting will be 2 December 2015, 20 UTC |
| 11:21 | #endmeeting | |
| 11:21 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org | Code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
| 11:21 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Nov 4 11:21:08 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 11:21 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-11-04-10.00.html | |
| 11:21 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]5-11-04-10.00.txt | |
| 11:21 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]04-10.00.log.html | |
| 11:21 | cait | thx all for attending! |
| 11:21 | drojf | cait++ |
| 11:21 | wnickc | cait++ |
| 11:21 | magnuse | cait++ community++ |
| 11:21 | cait | community++ |
| 11:21 | wnickc | now off to grab that toddler I hear waking up |
| 11:21 | bye all | |
| 11:21 | community++ | |
| 11:21 | cait | gonna be another exciting 6 monhts... but first we need to get out a really solid 3.22 - so please take a look at the trello and test test test |
| 11:22 | * cait | is off for lunch then soon :) |
| 11:22 | * thd | returns to sleeping and not in his chair this time ;) |
| 11:23 | * magnuse | takes the dog for a walk |
| 11:24 | tajoli | bye |
| 11:24 | tajoli left #koha | |
| 11:35 | eythian | bedtime, later all |
| 11:35 | drojf | good night eythian |
| 11:35 | * drojf | feels like bed time too |
| 11:38 | andreashm | Funny. I was here, logged into irc, and still managed to miss the meeting. :/ |
| 11:38 | Reading back now | |
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| 11:49 | gmcharlt | sleep in, and I find myself packaging manager! ;) |
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| 11:59 | xarragon | Did you guys see that debian is EOL:ing ElasticSearch in Jessie? |
| 12:09 | magnuse | gmcharlt: you're welcome ;-) |
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| 12:11 | gmcharlt | xarragon: yes - I'll be curious to see if that just ends up being a shot across the bow with the end result of ES providing the details on security patches that Debian-security wants |
| 12:13 | magnuse | wow, sounds complicated |
| 12:18 | schnydszch | hi! i would like to know what's :p and :w at some end of indexes in records.abs and also :w I see Subject:p |
| 12:22 | jcamins | understanding zebra indexing? |
| 12:22 | wahanui | it has been said that understanding zebra indexing is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_Zebra_indexing |
| 12:23 | xarragon | gmcharlt: Yeah, that might be intent I guess. It seemed a bit drastic. |
| 12:24 | schnydszch | so it's just a placeholder? |
| 12:25 | it does not have meaning? like it's subfield p? or some of those? | |
| 12:25 | jcamins | No, not at all. It determines what kind of index you're creating. |
| 12:25 | That page doesn't explain it. Huh. | |
| 12:25 | :w means "word index" and :p means "phrase index" | |
| 12:26 | schnydszch | okay now i get it |
| 12:26 | yeah the page does not explain | |
| 12:26 | thanks! | |
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| 12:41 | tcohen | hi |
| 12:42 | bgkriegel | hi tcohen |
| 12:42 | tcohen | hi bgkriegel |
| 12:43 | bgkriegel | added a patch for Bug 15098, trello updated |
| 12:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15098 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Itemtype description missing from facets for itypes in a search group |
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| 12:56 | xarragon | By the way, is there a reason the old library is called "C4"? |
| 12:56 | magnuse | how hard can it be? |
| 12:57 | xarragon: you'll find the answer here: http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/1638 | |
| 12:57 | how hard can it be is http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/1638 | |
| 12:57 | how hard can it be? | |
| 12:58 | oops, no you don't | |
| 12:58 | i was sure it was there | |
| 12:58 | jcamins | c4? |
| 12:58 | wahanui | c4 is probably a high explosive :-) or "Cheap & Cheerful Copy of (the ILS program HLT used to use)" |
| 12:58 | magnuse | koha was modelled after an older ils called c2. c4 was going to be twice as good |
| 12:59 | drojf | and the old ILS started with C, thats the 4. |
| 13:00 | xarragon | Well it is good to have mysery legends in any project. |
| 13:00 | mystery* | |
| 13:00 | drojf | there is a kohacon video somewhere with joann ransom of HLT explaining it, i think. but i can't find it |
| 13:01 | cait | hm i think rangi might have explained it too |
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| 13:01 | cait | somewhere deep in the irc logs |
| 13:07 | bgkriegel++ | |
| 13:07 | drojf | oh it wasn't jo, thats why i did not find it. got that link but the site is broken for me http://blip.tv/the-curious-and[…]lie-blake-4367524 |
| 13:10 | ha! https://archive.org/details/KohaCon10 | |
| 13:14 | xarragon | We'd all be lost without archive.org |
| 13:14 | drojf | indeed |
| 13:17 | cait | bgkriegel++ mveron++ |
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| 13:17 | mveron | Playing cards... :-) |
| 13:17 | cait | yeah :) |
| 13:18 | not it would be good if we found someone who can do plack magic hm. | |
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| 13:44 | tcohen | who's working on the C4::Dates removal patches? |
| 13:44 | mtompset? | |
| 13:44 | wahanui | hmmm... mtompset is catching up on his other coding projects. |
| 13:45 | nengard | is the log for this morning's meeting posted yet? |
| 13:47 | tcohen | fridolin: are you around? |
| 13:47 | cait | nengard: not yet on the wiki, but the link is in the logs |
| 13:47 | nengard | k - will puruse |
| 13:47 | cait | puruse? |
| 13:51 | fridolin | tcohen: yep |
| 13:52 | tcohen | can u check if the dependency for bug 15059 is real? :-D |
| 13:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15059 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Passed QA , Line break in html attribute |
| 13:53 | tcohen | @later tell Joubu please tell me (more or less) when you'll be around |
| 13:53 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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| 13:56 | fridolin | tcohen: indeed,since rebase I have said : In this case, this bug can be tested without bug 14955. |
| 13:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14955 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , "Show more" link contains double encoded characters |
| 13:56 | fridolin | so i drop the dependancy |
| 13:56 | * tcohen | suspected that |
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| 14:09 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15059: Line break in html attribute in branchoverdues.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a4c381750f8d3bec8> / Bug 15035: Anti-spam for opac-suggestions - FOLLOW-UP <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]440ba79895c270749> / Bug 15061: Can't add item to rotating collection <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha |
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| 14:24 | tcohen | cait: disable encryption |
| 14:25 | cait | |
| 14:25 | cait | yes |
| 14:25 | i see | |
| 14:29 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14805: Replace generic 'items' with the specific ones <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]06f1e5a9f226d9487> / Bug 14805: (follow-up) fix a bug in previous code and change msg string <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d0194fd0eaf2cc958> / Bug 14805: QA follow-up <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]?p=koha.git;a=com |
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| 15:05 | xarragon | is there an easy way to dump the variables from a C4::template? |
| 15:05 | Soi I can determine what is wrong at a glance? | |
| 15:14 | * ashimema | is now co-maintainer of the Swagger2 lib |
| 15:15 | cait | are congratulations in order? |
| 15:15 | you can dump them... sec | |
| 15:15 | bug 13948 | |
| 15:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13948 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add ability to dump template toolkit variables to html comment |
| 15:16 | cait | you can also do something like: |
| 15:16 | [% USE Dumper %] <!--ITEM [% Dumper.dump(item) %] --> | |
| 15:16 | which is what i did in the past - haven't tested the new feature yet | |
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| 15:17 | cbrannon | Has anyone ever noticed, when you manually enter a date in Koha, you have to enter it year first, but when you use a date picker, the date is last? |
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| 15:23 | * andreashm | is back again |
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| 15:27 | putti | How did you solve this problem when installing the UUID perl package: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -luuid ? |
| 15:29 | cait | xarragon: ^ |
| 15:30 | cbrannon: hm that sound sstrange | |
| 15:30 | if you enter a date manually it should be entered in your selected date format | |
| 15:30 | * mveron-away | is back in about 4-5 hours |
| 15:31 | cbrannon | cait: we have ALWAYS been told to enter the date as yyyy-mm-dd. |
| 15:31 | I should clarify, this is in reports. | |
| 15:31 | cait | ah |
| 15:31 | yes, the format in sql is yyyy-mm-dd | |
| 15:31 | and the |date option is broken in some versions | |
| 15:32 | they are a bit special currently | |
| 15:32 | cbrannon | but when you choose a date from the date picker, it shows in the format of dd/mm/yyyy |
| 15:32 | cait | reports |
| 15:32 | cbrannon | it still works though |
| 15:32 | cait | yeah |
| 15:32 | because it reformats | |
| 15:32 | when building the sql - if yu look at the sql after running it, you will see it's also 2010... | |
| 15:32 | cbrannon | why can't manual entry be that nice? |
| 15:33 | cait | if you use <<date|date>> you can enter according to system preference, if you do something like where date like "2010%" you woud use something like <<date (enter YYYY-MM-TT truncate with %)>> |
| 15:34 | so it depends a bit on how your report works how you have to enter it | |
| 15:35 | not surei am making sense | |
| 15:36 | cbrannon | If you use the date picker, you can't manually enter dates. And if you don't use date picker, you HAVE to enter as yyyy-mm-dd (excluding truncating). It just seems if the date picker can get around the formating, we should be able to when we manually enter as well. |
| 15:36 | cait | i think hte problem is that the date picker shoudl also allow you to enter manually |
| 15:37 | bug 14060 | |
| 15:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14060 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Patch doesn't apply , Remove readonly on date inputs |
| 15:37 | cait | so even when the datepicker is shown, ideally you shoudl be able to edit the date manually in the input field |
| 15:37 | without the |date koha doesn't know your free input field IS a date... so it won't do the reformatting | |
| 15:38 | cbrannon | someone needs to fix that. |
| 15:38 | cait | you can open a bug report... but it's tricky |
| 15:39 | we usually just put an input help in the description, like (Start Date, enter YYY-MM-TT truncate with %) | |
| 15:39 | so people see that and know what to do when running the report | |
| 15:40 | hm, maybe you meant 14060 | |
| 15:40 | this day feels like monday | |
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| 15:40 | cbrannon | :) |
| 15:46 | putti | cait, I added koha::object for issuing rules: bug 15129 :) Does that look alright? |
| 15:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15129 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Koha::object for issuing rules |
| 15:47 | putti | And I'll maybe do some more refactoring but I thought to put just that one first, so the patches would be small! |
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| 15:53 | cait | putti: sorry, can't check now, and kyle or Joubu might be better to ask |
| 15:53 | putti | cait, alright. maybe :) |
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| 15:57 | Kchris | does anyone know if the "install and setup koha to use Git on a development Server" instructions are up to date? |
| 15:59 | after editing the configuration files, I get "ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS" message | |
| 15:59 | putti | Kchirs I'm running my system with those instructions |
| 15:59 | Kchris, which conf files? | |
| 15:59 | Kchris | putti: that's encouraging. |
| 16:00 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12933: DBRev 3.21.00.050 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]63ad82e7aa9f22864> / Bug 12933: (QA followup) Add missing notice templates and other small fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4a027b4d034dd77b7> / Bug 12933: (QA followup) Rename GetOverdues to GetOverduesForPatron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe |
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| 16:01 | putti | Kchris, after running what program you get "ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS"? |
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| 16:02 | putti | Kchris, this might help you also, but maybe to different problems: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]it_clone_installs :) |
| 16:03 | Kchris | Putti: I edited the apache-shared-opac.conf, apache-shared-intranet.conf, and the koha-conf.xml files to point to the appropriate git directories and files. |
| 16:04 | putti | Kchris, and where the error came? |
| 16:05 | Kchris | putti: the error came after I restarted Apache, and tried to load localhost:8080 |
| 16:06 | putti | hmm, I think you should not edit apache-shared-opac.conf and apache-shared-intranet.conf but instead apache2/sites-available/koha.conf |
| 16:06 | The two files are somehow autogenerated, if I recall correctly. | |
| 16:08 | Kchris, did you take a look in the wiki page at "Configure and Start Apache" ? | |
| 16:08 | Kchris | Putti: No, i haven't looked at that. |
| 16:09 | putti | Kchris, hopefully you will get it running with the instructions provided there :) |
| 16:13 | Kchris | putti: thanks. is "Configure and Start apache" a page on the Koha wiki? |
| 16:13 | putti | Kchris, http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]a_on_ubuntu_-_git |
| 16:13 | it's under that article | |
| 16:14 | Kchris | thanks! |
| 16:14 | putti | Kchris, was this the article you looked in the first place or something else ? O.o |
| 16:15 | no problem, glad to help you :) | |
| 16:15 | Kchris | No, I was looking at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]evelopment_Server |
| 16:16 | putti | I see |
| 16:16 | Kchris | the article I was looking at didn't mention apache2/sites-available/koha.conf |
| 16:18 | tcohen | @later tell eythian there is a new dependency on 11622: URL::Encode, is it possible to build it? |
| 16:18 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:18 | tcohen | @later tell gmcharlt there is a new dependency on 11622: URL::Encode, is it possible to build it? |
| 16:18 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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| 16:30 | drojf | tcohen: looking at http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=13665#c3 i wonder how i would "ask for a setSpec containing all facets" as you described in the comment? any hints? |
| 16:30 | huginn | 04Bug 13665: major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from zebra is slow |
| 16:31 | tcohen | drojf: yes |
| 16:32 | zebra::facet::<facet_1>:0,<facet_2>:0...<facet_n>:0 | |
| 16:34 | drojf | and right now we do that one at the time, but if you get all at once and one is empty, it explodes? |
| 16:35 | jcamins | Kabloom! |
| 16:35 | drojf | hi jcamins :D |
| 16:36 | tcohen | hehe |
| 16:36 | jcamins: it works | |
| 16:36 | wahanui | However, now everything else is broken. |
| 16:37 | tcohen | if you have facet_1, .., facet_n populated, of course |
| 16:37 | heh | |
| 16:37 | drojf | ah yes i found it. so basically one would not do the loop and get_facet_from_result_set for each one |
| 16:37 | tcohen | yeah |
| 16:38 | i played with zebra's code so it skips unpopulated setpecs | |
| 16:38 | but didn't have feedback from indexdata about the best way to do it | |
| 16:38 | they basically consider the whole string as a setspec | |
| 16:38 | drojf | but ID did not like the idea? why does it break? is it zebras fault or ours? |
| 16:38 | tcohen | the whole string is a setspec |
| 16:38 | and it needs to be filled so there are results | |
| 16:39 | the answer i got was "yes, there needs to be data on all of them" | |
| 16:39 | if you have a personal contact with one of them, comment this | |
| 16:39 | drojf | so it is on us to check beforehand and only use those that are not empty |
| 16:39 | i will | |
| 16:40 | tcohen | we could do that, we could patch index.c, or we could populate all of them with phantom data, but i didn't find a way to do it |
| 16:41 | drojf | too complicated or lack of time? |
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| 16:42 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15014: Returns 0 if everything went fine <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]53707fd0c673987be> |
| 16:42 | tcohen | lack of time and/or lack of imagination |
| 16:42 | i mean, thought about it, but didn't try to implement due to lack of time | |
| 16:43 | something like adding a negative id or smth like that | |
| 16:43 | i think jcamins had some ideas | |
| 16:44 | jcamins | I had suggested having a magic record, I think. |
| 16:44 | tcohen | ah |
| 16:44 | a record with all defined facets | |
| 16:44 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 16:45 | tcohen | i recall |
| 16:45 | i tried to avoid that workaroudn | |
| 16:45 | and failed | |
| 16:45 | due to poor communication | |
| 16:45 | drojf | internally in koha somewhere, or an actual record? |
| 16:46 | tcohen | drojf: a generated record |
| 16:46 | passed to zebraidx when doing a full reindex i guess | |
| 16:46 | worth exploring | |
| 16:47 | * tcohen | now remembers how he misses jcamins around |
| 16:47 | drojf | ok. but for testing purposes, an actual record should do |
| 16:47 | yes there should be more jcamins around | |
| 16:48 | way too little food talk, too | |
| 16:49 | tcohen | heh |
| 16:49 | jcamins | drojf: yesterday I made Jamaican oatmeal chocolate chip cookies. |
| 16:49 | (coffee + rum + nutmeg + cayenne pepper) | |
| 16:49 | tcohen | \o/ |
| 16:49 | * tcohen | wants |
| 16:50 | tcohen | btw, how about having the first brick for building a REST api pushed? |
| 16:50 | jcamins | Did you bribe people with cookies? |
| 16:52 | tcohen | jcamins: of course |
| 16:52 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13799: Add types for patron's fields in Swagger spec <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2c7c68864e395fca4> / Bug 13799: Rename t/.../v1/borrowers.t to t/.../v1/patrons.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]92b5857cca5de2bdf> / Bug 13799: Reword 'borrower' to 'patron' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git; |
| 16:52 | tcohen | \o/ |
| 16:52 | confetti | |
| 16:52 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 16:53 | ashimema | ? |
| 16:53 | :) | |
| 16:53 | even | |
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| 17:04 | tcohen | bug 13799 |
| 17:04 | wahanui | bug 13799 is, like, ready to go in master, if nobody complains about it |
| 17:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13799 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Add base for building RESTful API |
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| 17:38 | pianohacker | tcohen++ |
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| 17:43 | tcohen | ? |
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| 17:48 | pianohacker | tcohen: bug 13799 |
| 17:48 | wahanui | i think bug 13799 is ready to go in master, if nobody complains about it |
| 17:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13799 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Add base for building RESTful API |
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| 17:51 | bok | where would i be able to get help troubleshooting a report i'm trying to write |
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| 18:34 | magnuse | two misconceptions i have heard about the upcoming release: 1. the new rest api will replace all other apis, including z39.50, ils-di etc. 2. everything is now working perfectly under plack |
| 18:36 | pianohacker | not that any of us would be terribly sad to see Z39.50 die, but... |
| 18:47 | rangi | morning |
| 18:47 | koha was C4, then it was kumara, before it was Koha (all pre release) | |
| 18:48 | pianohacker | kumara? |
| 18:48 | wahanui | kumara is older than oldkoha |
| 18:48 | magnuse | a kind of sweet potato |
| 18:49 | pianohacker | okay, I would have deeply approved of Koha being named after a potato |
| 18:49 | magnuse | if i recall correctly |
| 18:49 | pianohacker | google agrees |
| 18:50 | magnuse | not sure if it indigenous to nz? |
| 18:52 | pianohacker | I think it's just a sweet potato: rangi? |
| 18:53 | magnuse | i seem to remember someone calling it "our sweet potato", but that might not be significant |
| 18:53 | rangi | yep, a strain you can only find here |
| 18:54 | magnuse | ah, cool |
| 18:54 | rangi | but it's related to the ones you can find in south america |
| 18:54 | magnuse | that would have been at the "nz evening" we had in rotorua - happy times! |
| 18:55 | rangi | :) |
| 18:56 | pianohacker | taste much different, out of curiosity? |
| 18:56 | * pianohacker | is reminded of boniato |
| 18:56 | rangi | not much different |
| 19:00 | bag | my dog is named after a potato pianohacker |
| 19:01 | pianohacker | bag: aloo? |
| 19:01 | bag | yes that’s hindi for potato |
| 19:02 | pianohacker | ha! That's wonderful |
| 19:02 | * pianohacker | loves potatos |
| 19:03 | magnuse | bag: get another dog and call it kumara! |
| 19:04 | bag | :) |
| 19:08 | rangi | magnuse: https://www.workbuffer.org/presentations/ how does the cert there look to you? |
| 19:12 | magnuse | rangi: i get a grey lock |
| 19:12 | when i click on it it says "secure connection" | |
| 19:12 | rangi | sweet, its a letsencrypt one |
| 19:12 | magnuse | so i see |
| 19:13 | i got into the closed beta this morning too, not had time to test it yet | |
| 19:13 | rangi | works well |
| 19:13 | magnuse | planning on using it for all my kohas |
| 19:13 | encrypt all the things! | |
| 19:13 | rangi | yeah, we don't offer non https ones anymore |
| 19:14 | magnuse | catalyst++ |
| 19:14 | that is my plan too | |
| 19:14 | i hope their config tools will work nicely with the packages... | |
| 19:14 | rangi | yeah, can't see why not |
| 19:16 | magnuse | i was not thinking when i entered the beta, so i asked them to add e.g. bibkat.no, not all the *.bibkat.no domains i actually use... |
| 19:16 | *facepalm* | |
| 19:16 | rangi | yeah, ditto, but it's enough to test how it works anyway |
| 19:17 | magnuse | looked like they might perhaps possibly support wildcard certs some time in the future... |
| 19:17 | rangi | that would be ideal |
| 19:17 | altho, its pretty easy to just make ones | |
| 19:18 | per domain | |
| 19:19 | magnuse | yeah, sounds like it |
| 19:23 | * drojf | sighs |
| 19:24 | drojf | nobody told me i would have to write a gazillion confirmation emails |
| 19:24 | rangi | hmm? |
| 19:24 | magnuse | drojf: confirmation of what? |
| 19:25 | drojf | on the other hand, a lot of people want to attend my little seminar on koha |
| 19:25 | magnuse | ah, awesome |
| 19:25 | rangi | cool |
| 19:25 | * magnuse | should do another "get to know koha" in oslo soon |
| 19:26 | drojf | yes you should |
| 19:27 | jcamins | magnuse: ooh, I want to get into the closed beta! How do I do that? |
| 19:27 | * jcamins | just found the form. |
| 19:27 | magnuse | jcamins: it's not exactly magic :-) |
| 19:27 | drojf: i think i will | |
| 19:28 | it *is* more work than you think, though | |
| 19:28 | jcamins | magnuse: no, but it's also not on the letsencrypt.org site anywhere obvious. |
| 19:28 | magnuse: how so? | |
| 19:28 | magnuse | nothing happens before i am done with the current stage of the ncip project - which is hopefully tomorrow |
| 19:29 | jcamins: ah sorry, doing a seminar is more work... | |
| 19:29 | jcamins | I'd expect a bunch of domain validation and maybe generating a couple of certificate requests. |
| 19:29 | magnuse: ah. Yes, it certainly is. | |
| 19:29 | drojf | oh you got into the beta too :) |
| 19:29 | rangi: did you use it on apache? if so, what version? | |
| 19:30 | rangi | nginx |
| 19:30 | drojf | ok |
| 19:30 | rangi | i just did --certonly |
| 19:30 | and did the config myself | |
| 19:30 | drojf | did not work for me in apache. probably a 2.2 problem, others had it too |
| 19:30 | alright. i did that too. but wanted to check the apache thing to see if that would work with koha out of the box somehow | |
| 19:30 | jcamins | drojf: I figured out the problem. |
| 19:30 | You used Apache. :P | |
| 19:30 | drojf | indeed |
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| 19:40 | drojf | so tired. must. confirm. stuff. |
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| 19:41 | drojf | magnuse: it sounded to me like wildcard certificates won't be available any time soon. and i did the same thing, did not enter subdomains :/ but it is going to be live soon anyway |
| 19:43 | magnuse | yup :-) |
| 19:43 | pianohacker | a "koha-make-my-site-encrypted" thing would be just the most kumara thing ever |
| 19:45 | drojf | i'd vote for encryption and redirect http to https out of the box |
| 19:46 | bag | is that the peewee playhouse word of the day pianohacker? kumara |
| 19:46 | drojf | the letsencrypt cert did not really work for whatever old internet explorer version my office mate had to test. IE 8 or something |
| 19:47 | not sure if there is something to be resolved until release or it won't ever work | |
| 19:47 | not sure if i care | |
| 19:48 | magnuse | drojf: i'd vote for that too |
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| 19:51 | drojf | goodness. the only thing more i confirm today is that it is really late |
| 19:51 | and i should go home | |
| 19:55 | magnuse | drojf: yes you should ;-) |
| 19:55 | drojf | heh |
| 19:57 | bag | yes you should :) |
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| 20:05 | magnuse | there, all customers upgraded to 3.20.5 |
| 20:05 | have fun, #koha! | |
| 20:05 | bag | later THE awesome magnuse |
| 20:08 | drojf | oh i'm still here |
| 20:08 | heh | |
| 20:08 | later #koha | |
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| 20:31 | tcohen | hi |
| 20:35 | bag | hi tcohen |
| 20:35 | how you holding up druthb | |
| 20:36 | sorry about everything - wish I could have voted there | |
| 20:36 | druthb | eh, I'm managing. wanna hide. |
| 20:37 | Traumatan | Hey guys, can anybody point me to a more detailed explanation of the SIP-Server? I am stuck with it not working and not logging as a bonus |
| 20:38 | bag | hmm what are you using now for documentation? |
| 20:38 | sip? | |
| 20:38 | wahanui | hmmm... sip is enough to make me drink stronger things than wizzyrea's usual beer. Like whiskey. |
| 20:39 | bag | Traumatan: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]&search=SIP&go=Go |
| 20:40 | Traumatan | yeah I clicked the first 10 links |
| 20:40 | its like "do this and it works" which it does not | |
| 20:40 | what do you mean with "documentation?" | |
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| 20:47 | bag | I meant documentation - like anything you were reading to set it up |
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| 20:49 | tcohen | so the internet is back |
| 20:50 | bag | welcome back internet |
| 20:52 | tcohen | hi bag |
| 20:52 | hi rangi | |
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| 21:15 | * andreashm | waves |
| 21:17 | * pianohacker | waves |
| 21:17 | * cait | waves |
| 21:19 | * kchris | waves |
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| 21:21 | indradgPH | hello |
| 21:22 | andreashm | hi pianohacker, cait, kchris, indragPH! |
| 21:23 | * andreashm | is writing notes from last weeks meetings. ugh. |
| 21:23 | andreashm | making slides is more fun than this. |
| 21:23 | cait | heh |
| 21:23 | * cait | is done with making slides for now - but had to write 2 protocols today as well... |
| 21:24 | kchris | hi andreashm |
| 21:24 | cait | hm. maybe the better word is meeting notes :) |
| 21:24 | eythian | hi |
| 21:25 | tcohen | hi eythian |
| 21:25 | pianohacker | tcohen: just to verify, is bug 15032 deterministic or no? |
| 21:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15032 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Plack testing -- Stage MARC records for import -- Internal Server Error/Stalled Staged Import |
| 21:25 | cait | ? |
| 21:27 | tcohen | pianohacker: it is |
| 21:27 | completely reproducible | |
| 21:27 | i can guide you | |
| 21:27 | cait | ah! |
| 21:27 | eythian | tcohen: when you discover near merge time that something has a new dependency, can you send them this link: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ndency_Guidelines and tell them that they're going to have to wait because of point #5 |
| 21:27 | and #6 | |
| 21:28 | tcohen | is this about URL::Encode? |
| 21:28 | eythian | yeah |
| 21:28 | tcohen | I haven't pushed it |
| 21:28 | eythian | Oh, I know |
| 21:29 | It's not your fault | |
| 21:29 | it's their fault | |
| 21:29 | tcohen | so you're saying i should send them there |
| 21:29 | instead of asking for the package | |
| 21:29 | right? | |
| 21:30 | maybe bag is the one to take notes, i won't probably have to deal with that for a while :-P | |
| 21:30 | eythian | When they realise that they're adding a new dependency, they need to bring it up then. Not when you're considering it for merge. |
| 21:31 | tcohen | ack |
| 21:31 | rangi | i was talking to magnuse about this |
| 21:31 | tcohen | syn_rcvd |
| 21:31 | rangi | 08:21 <rangi> i reckon, you want a dependency, yu should commit to help packaging it |
| 21:31 | tcohen | yeah, but we need and explicit workflow for that to work |
| 21:31 | rangi | (helping might just be sending chocolate, or apologising a lot) |
| 21:31 | tcohen | *an* |
| 21:32 | rangi | but the main thing is, do we really need this bleeding edge module |
| 21:32 | should be the first thing | |
| 21:32 | eythian | It's not a big deal to package things (though it would be good to have more people knowing how), it's just that if it's at the last moment then it's become a "drop everything and do this for me so we can get it in!" type thing. |
| 21:32 | which is not cool | |
| 21:35 | tcohen | in this case is a cool thing, that is not mandatory for the release |
| 21:35 | * cait | takes notes |
| 21:35 | tcohen | so feel free |
| 21:35 | not to package it | |
| 21:35 | eythian | cait: I sent a ranty email covering this a while ago :) |
| 21:35 | cait | i know |
| 21:36 | but being reminded is good :) | |
| 21:45 | pianohacker | @eythian++ |
| 21:45 | huginn | pianohacker: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 21:45 | pianohacker | eythian++ |
| 21:46 | eythian | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2evC2xTNWg <-- she built a breakfast serving robot! |
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| 22:02 | bag | eythian, tcohen - adding new dependency stuff to my notes |
| 22:02 | thanks :) | |
| 22:02 | mveron | Hi again #koha |
| 22:02 | bag | hey mveron |
| 22:02 | mveron | hi bag :-) |
| 22:03 | * mveron | counts: Wow, C4::Dates need sign-off wnet back from 8 to 4. Gerat! |
| 22:03 | mveron | Great |
| 22:03 | * mveron | Should put his glasses |
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| 22:23 | cait | bag? |
| 22:23 | wahanui | I LIKE BASEBALL |
| 22:23 | * dcook | waves to cait |
| 22:24 | dcook | Not that I'm bag |
| 22:24 | Just... morning :) | |
| 22:24 | * cait | waves back |
| 22:24 | bag | hi |
| 22:24 | cait | hey |
| 22:24 | bug 14985 | |
| 22:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14985 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Remove C4::Dates from 6 files in folder C4/*.pm |
| 22:24 | * dcook | waves to bag too for good measure |
| 22:24 | cait | did you mean to sign it off? |
| 22:25 | bag | I meant to sign it off. and right in the middle of me doing that - a person came to the door so I got up to help them |
| 22:25 | did it not finish? | |
| 22:25 | silly me | |
| 22:26 | cait | missing the patch, was not sure if it was bug confusion, so asking :) |
| 22:27 | bag | nah I just updated the bug - I will send patch in a little bit |
| 22:29 | should be up there now | |
| 22:30 | cait ginny is watching clifford the tv show in the other room and she’s laughing so loud! it’s making me giggle | |
| 22:30 | silly girl | |
| 22:31 | cait | :) |
| 22:32 | thx! | |
| 22:33 | mveron | bag ++ |
| 22:33 | bag | mveron++ |
| 22:33 | mveron | :-) |
| 22:35 | wizzyrea | mveron++ yay ty for the signoff |
| 22:42 | eythian | http://search.cpan.org/~mlehma[…]se-3.74/sense.pod |
| 23:01 | mveron | wizzyrea: welcome :-) |
| 23:08 | * mveron | amended two C4::Dates patches to make them apply. Almost falls asleep, hopes for overnight magic regarding C4::Dates sign-offs :-) |
| 23:08 | mveron | Good night everybody, and Koha community ++ |
| 23:09 | ...or daytime... | |
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