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| 01:16 | IceCube | ok I have some questions, if anyone is still there |
| 01:16 | dcook | Sort of here |
| 01:16 | What's up? | |
| 01:16 | IceCube | hi dcook, thanks |
| 01:16 | well I followed the instructions exactly to a certain point and then I'm having a problem accessing the libraryname-intra site | |
| 01:16 | I just get the "Apache works" page | |
| 01:17 | does that make sense | |
| 01:17 | eythian | did you set up DNS? |
| 01:17 | IceCube | yep |
| 01:17 | eythian | did you ensure that ServerName in the apache config matches the DNS names, in both places? |
| 01:17 | IceCube | I think that site isn't set up in apache |
| 01:18 | eythian | have a look in the apache config |
| 01:18 | the koha-create process would have made one | |
| 01:18 | IceCube | as far as I can tell |
| 01:18 | ok... | |
| 01:19 | which one do I look in | |
| 01:19 | eythian | the ones that was created |
| 01:19 | dcook | IceCube: What do you mean by which one? |
| 01:19 | eythian | *one |
| 01:24 | IceCube | apache-shared.conf |
| 01:24 | and...? | |
| 01:24 | apache-shared-intranet.conf? | |
| 01:26 | I'm sorry for what are probably obvious questions | |
| 01:26 | eythian | no |
| 01:26 | /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/something.conf | |
| 01:27 | IceCube | oh ok yeah I have the one site but not the other |
| 01:27 | I did check that actually | |
| 01:28 | there is the library name but not the libraryname-intra | |
| 01:28 | tcohen joined #koha | |
| 01:28 | eythian | yeah, so there are two vhost definitions in that file |
| 01:29 | one for opac, one for the admin interface | |
| 01:29 | they'll both need a correct servername definition | |
| 01:29 | IceCube | the admin one is port 8080? |
| 01:30 | eythian | it doesn't have to be |
| 01:30 | it's up to you how you configure it | |
| 01:30 | IceCube | but the one that is port 8080 by default is the second one (the regular library site defaulting to port 80)? |
| 01:30 | eythian | I tend to give each one its own DNS name and have them both run on 80 |
| 01:30 | wizzyrea | ^ |
| 01:30 | eythian | the packages don't set anything on 8080 by default |
| 01:30 | (I think) | |
| 01:31 | IceCube | I don't think I changed the default |
| 01:31 | wizzyrea | no, they don't, I just did that and am looking at a fresh package created config file (for unrelated reasons) |
| 01:31 | eythian | yeah, just checked, they don't |
| 01:31 | so you have two virtual host sites. You need to make sure the servername for each of them is correct. | |
| 01:31 | IceCube | huh |
| 01:32 | ok | |
| 01:32 | eythian | it's possible you changed it in koha-sites.conf, that's where the defaults come from |
| 01:32 | wizzyrea | koha on debian? |
| 01:32 | wahanui | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian |
| 01:33 | IceCube_ joined #koha | |
| 01:33 | IceCube_ | Sorry I missed the last thing |
| 01:33 | wizzyrea | you're so nearly there :) |
| 01:34 | eythian | wahanui: irc logs |
| 01:34 | wahanui | irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 01:34 | eythian | that'll get you what you missed |
| 01:35 | IceCube_ | perfect, thanks. Bookmarked :) |
| 01:37 | I restarted apache after I changed the port to 80 and that did the trick | |
| 01:37 | eythian | awesome |
| 01:37 | dcook | \o/ |
| 01:39 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 01:39 | dcook | confetti? |
| 01:39 | wahanui | i heard confetti was http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
| 01:39 | wizzyrea | A+ confetti-ing |
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| 01:39 | dcook | Well then... |
| 01:40 | That mouse has a mind of its own | |
| 01:40 | IceCube_ | LOL |
| 01:45 | IceCube | ok if I am migrating the database from the old server to this new one, do I need to have the new database have the same name as the old one or can I import the data into a new database with a new name? |
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| 01:46 | eythian | IceCube: the database name isn't really important |
| 01:46 | IceCube | ok |
| 01:46 | eythian | so long as it won't try to "USE" the original name |
| 01:46 | wizzyrea | so you'll need to make the databases match, but it's easy to do by editing the sql dump to match the new name (at least that's how I do it) |
| 01:46 | eythian | if it does, edit that line out. |
| 01:47 | wizzyrea | or take it out |
| 01:47 | jinx. | |
| 01:47 | IceCube | lol |
| 01:47 | ok | |
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| 01:48 | * eythian | assumes that gmcharlt's library police are really good at issuing fines. |
| 01:50 | gmcharlt | joy; unexpected reboot |
| 01:51 | huginn joined #koha | |
| 01:51 | wizzyrea | oh, linode? |
| 01:51 | wahanui | i think linode is better/cheaper than slicehost |
| 01:51 | wizzyrea | I need to send a hazard notice for k-c.org |
| 01:52 | cuz linode is going to reboot it at some point for xen updates | |
| 01:52 | Francesca | oh hello huginns back |
| 01:52 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 01:52 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #273: "rangi: The main thing I came to realise is -- 'Your cataloguing standards are bad, and you should feel bad' - which translates to - 'friends don't let friends use RDA'" (added by wizzyrea at 01:04 AM, August 30, 2013) |
| 01:52 | Francesca | didn't realise he'd quit |
| 01:53 | @wunder wlg | |
| 01:53 | huginn | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (2:30 PM NZDT on October 20, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 01:53 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: whoops, turns out I had completely missed the notification |
| 01:53 | wizzyrea | haha, was that it |
| 01:54 | ? | |
| 01:54 | I mean, that sucks. | |
| 01:56 | IceCube | ok so now I'm ready to export the old database into the new system |
| 01:56 | Everything seems to be in order so far | |
| 01:56 | tcohen | hi gmcharlt |
| 01:56 | gmcharlt | hi tcohen |
| 01:57 | IceCube | what's the best process for doing this |
| 02:04 | wizzyrea | mysqldump the old database |
| 02:05 | edit the dump, if necessary, to get rid of the use database entry if it's wrong | |
| 02:05 | move it to the new server | |
| 02:05 | then cat dump.sql | sudo koha-mysql instancename (instancename is the name you gave your instance, if that's unclear) | |
| 02:06 | then you go to the intranet, | |
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| 02:06 | wizzyrea | log in with the db creds |
| 02:06 | and say "yes, update it" | |
| 02:06 | profit. | |
| 02:07 | IceCube | ok I'll go ahead and start doing that |
| 02:07 | wizzyrea | at least, hopefully you profit ^.^ |
| 02:07 | IceCube | haha eventually! |
| 02:26 | jcamins | Better: koha-upgrade-schema instancename |
| 02:26 | Unless you already started doing it in the web browser, in which case, just deal. | |
| 02:27 | (you'll have to use ps to see when the upgrade's finished running) | |
| 02:29 | tcohen | @later tell Joubu this has some answers http://lists.scsys.co.uk/piper[…]-June/001690.html we need to move bug 14778 |
| 02:29 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:32 | wizzyrea | yeah, koha-upgrade-schema is better and I always forget about it, mostly because my databases get upgraded when I upgrade with the packages |
| 02:32 | automagically | |
| 02:32 | tcohen | automagically++ |
| 02:34 | jcamins | Didn't the prince try to sing about that in Monty Python and the Holy Grail? |
| 02:34 | Good night. | |
| 02:34 | wahanui | If you feel like someone is looking through wahanui's window, it's OK, it's just me. |
| 02:36 | tcohen | night jcamins |
| 02:36 | IceCube | night |
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| 02:48 | eythian | wahanui: literal good night |
| 02:48 | wahanui | eythian: good night =is= <reply>I watch you sleep.|<reply>I'll be waiting for you to come back, $who.|<reply>If you feel like someone is looking through wahanui's window, it's OK, it's just me.|<reply>Don't go, $who. Stay a while. Stay forever.|<reply>sleep tight |
| 02:49 | eythian | no wahanui, good night is <reply>I watch you sleep.|<reply>I'll be waiting for you to come back, $who.|<reply>Don't go, $who. Stay a while. Stay forever.|<reply>sleep tight |
| 02:49 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 02:53 | tcohen | @later tell ribasushi need to talk about thread safe DBIC usage |
| 02:53 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:54 | * wizzyrea | orders tcohen to bed |
| 02:54 | wizzyrea | shooe |
| 02:54 | shoo* | |
| 03:01 | IceCube_ joined #koha | |
| 03:02 | tcohen | byeeeee |
| 03:11 | * eythian | does not understand tcohen's "dental plan" reference on the list |
| 03:22 | eythian | http://bwipp.terryburton.co.uk/ <-- interesting, I wonder if we could use that (a postscript barcode generating library.) |
| 03:33 | wizzyrea | I think it's a simpsons quote |
| 03:33 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OD9_HOjrVg as in I think he hears "background tasks" like homer hears dental plan | |
| 03:35 | eythian | I see. |
| 03:36 | wizzyrea | I didn't get it at first either, as I'm not a religious watcher of the simpsons |
| 03:37 | ibeardslee | so not someone needing a knuckle sandwich? |
| 03:51 | dcook | I'm not a religious watcher of The Simpsons, but "dental plan" is a classic :p |
| 03:52 | I think tcohen was also the one who showed me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I94w30LszoQ | |
| 03:53 | eythian | that's excellent |
| 03:55 | dcook | I think there is probably a Simpsons quote or I Heart Huckabees quote for pretty much any situation |
| 03:56 | eythian | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epIT4-gF__M <-- here you go dcook |
| 03:56 | dcook | I sometimes wonder if meeting you is a good idea, eythian ;) |
| 03:56 | eythian | heh |
| 03:57 | dcook | I would've seen your 10 hours and raise you 10 minutes, but that would be the wrong way around... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg_ArW8lrl0 |
| 03:58 | eythian | why do you need 10 minutes when you have 10 hours? |
| 03:58 | dcook | Exactly |
| 03:58 | Next time someone brings out 10 minutes, I'll bring out that 10 hours | |
| 03:58 | hard? | |
| 03:58 | hard is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg_ArW8lrl0 | |
| 03:58 | hard? | |
| 03:58 | wahanui | hmmm... hard is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg_ArW8lrl0 |
| 04:45 | IceCube | wizzy, question about something you said earlier |
| 04:45 | if you don't mind | |
| 04:46 | dcook | She might not be around now |
| 04:46 | I think it's after 6pm where she is | |
| 04:46 | What's up? | |
| 04:46 | Ah after 5pm | |
| 04:46 | daylight savings caught up.. | |
| 04:47 | IceCube | ahh ok |
| 04:48 | well she said that I have to edit the dump (mysqldump) of the old database to get rid of the entry if it's wrong | |
| 04:48 | before I migrate it to the new system | |
| 04:48 | I'm wondering if that is the line that says "Current Database" | |
| 04:58 | dcook | Alas, I have no idea what you're talking about |
| 04:58 | What's wrong with the dump? | |
| 04:58 | IceCube | ok well then I have another question |
| 04:59 | well she said I should change the entry and I _think_ she meant the old name | |
| 04:59 | I'm moving it to a new system and the new one has a different name | |
| 05:03 | dcook | You mean a database name? |
| 05:03 | IceCube | right |
| 05:07 | dcook | Yeah you might need to go into the sql and change the name |
| 05:07 | Let's see if I have a dump around to see... | |
| 05:08 | Hmm I don't see anything in a normal dump specific to the database | |
| 05:09 | IceCube | What about the line "Current Database" |
| 05:09 | dcook | I've never heard of a line like that |
| 05:09 | Can you copy and paste? | |
| 05:09 | You can use this link: http://paste.koha-community.org/ | |
| 05:09 | IceCube | yep gimme a sec |
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| 05:12 | pastebot | "IceCube" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "-- -- Current Database: `name_" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/111 |
| 05:12 | IceCube | I couldn't get it to cut/past because debian is running in a vm and it won't copy from there into here but I just typed out the line |
| 05:13 | actually I think I can get it to work | |
| 05:14 | dcook | Bi-directional clipboard is awesome for that :D |
| 05:15 | That should just be a comment, I believe | |
| 05:15 | For humans | |
| 05:15 | pastebot | "IceCube" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "-- MySQL dump 10.13 Distrib 5." (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/112 |
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| 05:16 | IceCube | there it is |
| 05:16 | oh so the -- is comment? | |
| 05:16 | dcook | Ahhh at the bottom |
| 05:16 | Yeah SQL comments are "--" and "/* */" | |
| 05:16 | IceCube | Well that's the top of the file |
| 05:16 | ahhh ok got it | |
| 05:16 | dcook | But at the bottom it does have some real SQL |
| 05:16 | IceCube | didn't realize they were also -- |
| 05:16 | dcook | CREATE DATABASE /*!32312 IF NOT EXISTS*/ `koha_koha` /*!40100 DEFAULT CHARACTER SET la$ |
| 05:16 | IceCube | yep ok I see it |
| 05:16 | dcook | That looks really weird though |
| 05:17 | How did you do the backup? | |
| 05:17 | IceCube | mysqldump to a file |
| 05:17 | dcook | What version of MySQL? |
| 05:17 | IceCube | mysqldump -A > FILENAME.sql |
| 05:17 | dcook | O_o |
| 05:17 | IceCube | 5.1.73-1 |
| 05:17 | dcook | Why the -A? |
| 05:17 | Wow... 5.1... | |
| 05:17 | IceCube | that's what someone told me to do |
| 05:18 | dcook | Someone here? |
| 05:18 | IceCube | I don't think so... I don't see it in the irc log |
| 05:18 | dcook | Because that's going to dump all databases into that file |
| 05:18 | Which I'm guessing is almost certainly not what you want to do | |
| 05:18 | check out "man mysqldump" | |
| 05:19 | IceCube | Well I need several of them but only one is a koha db |
| 05:19 | dcook | That'll give you the syntax |
| 05:19 | Several of them? | |
| 05:19 | Koha only needs one | |
| 05:19 | IceCube | we have other things running that use mysql |
| 05:19 | dcook | Then do them individually I'd say |
| 05:19 | IceCube | ok |
| 05:19 | dcook | Or you can edit the SQL that comes out |
| 05:19 | But that's liekly to be more error prone I think | |
| 05:19 | IceCube | you're prob right I'll go do it individually |
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| 05:39 | * magnuse | waves |
| 05:39 | * IceCube | waves back |
| 05:40 | magnuse | :-) |
| 05:40 | * magnuse | needs a reboot |
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| 05:42 | * magnuse | waves again |
| 05:44 | dcook | yo magnuse |
| 05:46 | magnuse | hiya dcook |
| 05:46 | time to go? :-) | |
| 05:48 | bug 14100 - woohoo! | |
| 05:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14100 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Generic solution for language overlay |
| 05:48 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 05:48 | and Joubu++ of course | |
| 05:48 | dcook | Just about! |
| 05:49 | Ooh. I've seen mentions of this. | |
| 05:49 | What's it about? | |
| 05:49 | Oooo | |
| 05:49 | magnuse | being able to translate things like authorized values |
| 05:50 | eventually, being able to translate all sorts of strings that are in the db and that until now has only been possible to have in one language | |
| 05:58 | dcook | That would be great :) |
| 05:59 | I've recently started working on Android apps for fun | |
| 05:59 | And I kind of like the way that Java projects seem to do things | |
| 05:59 | Where in your code or your template you refer to an identifier in a file | |
| 05:59 | And then you can toggle between different language files | |
| 06:00 | Although even then I think they run into problems with having strings in a db in one language so an overlay would still be useful.. | |
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| 06:02 | magnuse | kia ora cait! |
| 06:09 | IceCube | wellll.... now I'm getting a different error |
| 06:09 | I feel like that is progress going from one error to a different one | |
| 06:10 | pastebot | "IceCube" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Software error: Can't call met" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/113 |
| 06:10 | magnuse | IceCube++ for persistence :-) |
| 06:10 | IceCube | haha |
| 06:10 | thanks magnuse | |
| 06:11 | dcook | It's tough cleaning up a bad mess, but it's worth it! |
| 06:11 | I've heard of this error before but I haven't seen it myself I think | |
| 06:11 | IceCube | I know in the end it will be satisfying |
| 06:12 | dcook | Ahh... |
| 06:12 | I'm guessing perhaps your credentials are set up correctly? | |
| 06:13 | IceCube | well I thought they were, they seemed to be working earlier and I haven't changed them |
| 06:32 | I'm really stuck here. This is annoying. | |
| 06:32 | I can log into the database fine | |
| 06:33 | it looks like a number of people have experienced this problem and discussed it recently on here | |
| 06:33 | I'm looking through to see if anything is helpful | |
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| 06:44 | fridolin | hie there |
| 06:44 | IceCube | hi |
| 06:45 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:45 | wahanui | hola, reiveune |
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| 06:56 | dcook | Sorry, IceCube. Got to go, but I'm sure some of these fine people can help you |
| 06:56 | Europe is coming online, while we Oceanic folk go home | |
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| 06:57 | IceCube | well I hope so |
| 06:57 | thanks for your help dcook | |
| 06:57 | magnuse? | |
| 06:57 | wahanui | magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 06:58 | Joubu | hi |
| 06:58 | IceCube | hi Joubu |
| 06:58 | are you a koha guru? | |
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| 06:59 | Joubu | I don't know, it depends on the area I'd say |
| 06:59 | IceCube | well I've run into an error the solution to which is eluding me |
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| 07:01 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:01 | wahanui | hola, alex_a |
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| 07:02 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:02 | Joubu | IceCube: what's your error? |
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| 07:04 | IceCube | Can't call method "do" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 794. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 89. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 25. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 25. |
| 07:05 | Joubu | your db is not reachable, either your credentials are wrong, or the server is down |
| 07:05 | or a lot of other possibilities | |
| 07:05 | IceCube | yeah... trying to figure out those possibilities! |
| 07:06 | server isn't down, I'm on it now | |
| 07:06 | Joubu | what about the credentials? |
| 07:07 | What's your Koha version? | |
| 07:08 | IceCube | latest |
| 07:08 | Just installed today | |
| 07:08 | the creds... ok well it was working earlier and then I imported the data from a mysqldump from an old koha server and since then I've gotten this error | |
| 07:10 | I set up a new server with the latest debian and koha and wanted to migrate the old database into it from the old server | |
| 07:10 | does that make sense? | |
| 07:11 | Joubu | mysql or mariadb? if mysql, which version are you using? |
| 07:11 | IceCube | mysql |
| 07:11 | Joubu | Do you have another error before the "can't call do on unblessed ref"? |
| 07:12 | IceCube | mysql 14.14 |
| 07:12 | no that's what I get when I point my browser to the site | |
| 07:12 | Joubu | mysql 14.14? |
| 07:13 | IceCube | mysql Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.5.44 for debian-linux-gnu ... |
| 07:13 | Joubu | check in the Koha log files, you could have another error |
| 07:13 | IceCube | I should mention I'm not a linux guy or a koha guy. I've done windows tech support for a long time so I'm not afraid to try things, I just don't know what to try |
| 07:14 | Joubu | try the Koha logs :) |
| 07:14 | tail -f /var/log/koha/$instance/*.log # replace $instance | |
| 07:14 | then reload the page | |
| 07:15 | IceCube | yep it says the same thing in there |
| 07:16 | also name-koha-zebra: client killed by signal 15, stopping | |
| 07:18 | Joubu | nothing else before? :) |
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| 07:19 | Joubu | Something like "Can't connect to mysql server"? |
| 07:19 | IceCube | hold on let me output it to a file |
| 07:20 | Joubu | could you edit C4/Context.pm and give me what is your line 794? |
| 07:20 | IceCube | sure gimme a sec |
| 07:20 | * andreashm | waves |
| 07:21 | fridolin | congratulations to Lyon3 Univ Team for Bug 8236 |
| 07:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8236 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Prevent renewing if overdue or restriction |
| 07:22 | fridolin | in master at laaaaaaaaaaast |
| 07:22 | magnuse | yay! |
| 07:22 | fridolin | :D |
| 07:22 | magnuse | and tjänare andreashm |
| 07:23 | Joubu | fridolin: do you know how dublin core export works in Koha? |
| 07:23 | andreashm | magnuse: hej! |
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| 07:26 | pastebot | "IceCube" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "==> /var/log/koha/olgs/intrane" (34 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/114 |
| 07:26 | IceCube | Joubu there's the logs |
| 07:26 | Joubu | so you have it :) |
| 07:26 | fridolin | Joubu: it uses MARC::Crosswalk::DublinCore |
| 07:26 | Joubu | IceCube: Access denied for user 'koha_olgs'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| 07:26 | your credentials are wrong | |
| 07:27 | IceCube | sigh ok any idea how to make them right? |
| 07:27 | I could access the page before importing the db | |
| 07:27 | Joubu | fridolin: yes I know, but do you know what kind of file (format, data, etc.) is expected on exporting a unimarc record? |
| 07:27 | edit $KOHA_CONF | |
| 07:28 | IceCube | ok |
| 07:29 | fridolin | Joubu: mmmm no idea |
| 07:29 | IceCube | I found that user. It's some random default password |
| 07:29 | Joubu | IceCube: locate a koha-conf.xml file (which is defined by $KOHA_CONF), in it you have a config section |
| 07:29 | with database/hostname/user/pass | |
| 07:30 | IceCube | yep I'm there |
| 07:30 | Joubu | update these info to fit your needs :) |
| 07:34 | IceCube | ok done. I got the login screen. I logged in and received this error: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.20/DBI.pm line 2064. |
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| 07:36 | Joubu | IceCube: I am not sure what you did, but it's not normal to get all these errors |
| 07:37 | you should try a fresh install on a fresh server, using the packages | |
| 07:38 | IceCube | That's what this is |
| 07:39 | I installed everything from scratch today on a VM and it was working fine until I imported the old database | |
| 07:39 | Joubu | no, the credentials were wrong, so you didn't install Koha correctly |
| 07:39 | IceCube | If I do it over the same thing will just happen, I think. |
| 07:40 | magnuse | IceCube: you should have got a upgrade screen after you imported the old database and logged in |
| 07:40 | IceCube | Well when I logged in the first time to the site with the browser it let me |
| 07:40 | I imported the db and was then not able to log in to see the upgrade screen | |
| 07:40 | magnuse | what user were you trying to log in as? |
| 07:41 | IceCube | I logged in as the koha_olgs on via the browser with the password that was in the koha-conf.xml file and that worked. |
| 07:41 | before importing the db | |
| 07:41 | magnuse | and that should work after importing the db too |
| 07:41 | IceCube | but it didn't :( |
| 07:41 | Joubu | magnuse: it's not on the same server |
| 07:42 | IceCube | it is |
| 07:42 | Joubu | IceCube: but the credentials in your koha-conf.xml file was wrong, and that's quite weird :) |
| 07:42 | IceCube | well wrong compared to what, I guess. Are there credentials in the imported db? |
| 07:43 | I know these are prob noob questions but this is new territory | |
| 07:43 | Joubu | no, only in this config file |
| 07:43 | IceCube | I apologize |
| 07:44 | magnuse | no worries, we like to help :-) |
| 07:44 | IceCube | I'm just going to uninstalland try again I think. This is ridiculous. |
| 07:44 | I really appreciate all your guys' help | |
| 07:44 | I must have made a mistake somewhere | |
| 07:45 | I really don't know what that would be, though. I was careful to follow the guide and the advice of wizzyrea and dcook | |
| 07:46 | magnuse | let me see if i got the facts right: you got an old sql dump from an old koha on an old server. then you did a fresh install of current koha on a fresh vm. after running koha-create you could log in to the instance with the username and password from koha-conf.xml. then you loaded the old sql dump into the fresh database with something like "sudo koha-mysql <instance> < dump.sql" and after that you could not log in with the username and password from koha-con |
| 07:46 | f.xml? | |
| 07:47 | IceCube | exactly |
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| 07:49 | magnuse | the username and password from koha-conf.xml should work the same, no matter what you loaded into the database, so there is something weird going on |
| 07:49 | IceCube | ok one possibility |
| 07:49 | wahanui | one possibility is that my vhost definitions are listening on the external interface but not the internal one |
| 07:50 | IceCube | I imported the database using a different mysql username - would that matter? |
| 07:50 | magnuse | a different username for the same database? |
| 07:51 | IceCube | I had to provide credentials to import it |
| 07:51 | Joubu | IceCube: the error you got was " Access denied for user 'koha_olgs'@'localhost'" |
| 07:51 | IceCube | I think I used a different uername |
| 07:51 | right | |
| 07:51 | Joubu | it seems there is a typo... |
| 07:52 | ok is it olgs? | |
| 07:52 | IceCube | I thiiiiinnkk I used root |
| 07:52 | Joubu | So you have to give rights to this user |
| 07:53 | IceCube | well I already deleted everything |
| 07:53 | This has been going on for almost 11 hours now | |
| 07:53 | I am thinking of my favorite word: defenestration. | |
| 07:54 | :) | |
| 07:57 | except it's a vm so that makes that impossible | |
| 08:04 | magnuse | when you have a new instance, make sure you can log in with the username/password from koha-conf.xml. then load the dump with "sudo koha-mysql <instance> < dump.sql" and make sure you can still log in with the username/password from koha-conf.xml |
| 08:06 | IceCube | ok |
| 08:08 | magnuse | if the name of the database is different in the old and the new server, you might have to edit the start of the sql dump file |
| 08:08 | did you do that | |
| 08:08 | ? | |
| 08:08 | IceCube | yep |
| 08:08 | magnuse | it depends on how the dump was created, i think |
| 08:08 | ah, cool | |
| 08:09 | IceCube | wt* now apache won't start |
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| 08:13 | IceCube | ok it started |
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| 08:32 | andreashm | magnuse: what happened to SemantiKoha? I tried looking for it on your site but could find it. (but Google was my friend of course) |
| 08:35 | IceCube | so now when I do "koha-create --create-db dbname" I get the error "user dbname-koha already exists" |
| 08:36 | I'm sure I just have to delete it somewhere but can't figure out where | |
| 08:37 | nm got that figured out | |
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| 08:43 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 08:43 | andreashm | hi drojf! |
| 08:43 | drojf | hi andreashm |
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| 09:23 | magnuse | andreashm: i ran out of time |
| 09:23 | maybe next year? | |
| 09:29 | andreashm | magnuse: cool. but the idea is to use a triple-store outside of Koha? I though you wanted to have more semantic capabilites _within_ Koha. |
| 09:30 | ? | |
| 09:31 | * andreashm | is of for lunch, and then meeting. bbl. |
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| 09:45 | magnuse | andreashm_away: well, the triplestore would be outside koha in the same way that mysql is outside koha. and yes, the end goal would definitely be to integrate all the tools necessary inside koha to provide a superb end user experience based on rdf |
| 09:46 | lunch? yeah! | |
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| 10:33 | * andreashm | waves' |
| 10:36 | andreashm | magnuse: (picking up on your last comment) so the idea is to add a triple-store to Koha? |
| 10:37 | what else is needed to provide RDF support for Koha? Mappings to Marc, the ability to add Thesauri etc? | |
| 10:39 | I guess Tomás bug 14645 is also needed? | |
| 10:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14645 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Koha::RecordProcessor should deal with Koha::MetadataRecord objects |
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| 11:24 | magnuse | andreashm: there are several ways to do it. my idea is first to keep marc, but transform marc to rdf (with e.g. https://github.com/digibib/marc2rdf) and build better end user services on that. then we can start to talk about cataloguing in rdf and getting rid of marc |
| 11:27 | andreashm | magnuse: sounds like a good plan. but it is also a good idea to allow ingestion of rdf directly (in Sweden we have LIBRIS cataloging in RDF for instance). |
| 11:27 | magnuse | "Alone you go faster, together we go further" #kohacon15 https://twitter.com/ranginui/s[…]56419531905200128 |
| 11:27 | sure! | |
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| 11:43 | andreashm | magnuse: it is also something we could get funding for (hint, hint). =) so what would you think is needed more than adding a triple-store for Koha to be able to harvest records from LIBRIS (if we also develop the harvester to handle RDF)? Any ideas? |
| 11:43 | wahanui | okay, andreashm. |
| 11:44 | andreashm | (Leaving all the fun stuff for later, like enriching the OPAC) |
| 11:51 | (The OAI-PMH harvester, that is) | |
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| 12:19 | magnuse | andreashm: well, if you are already getting rdf from somewhere else, i would say enriching the opac is the next step - to show some practical use |
| 12:19 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:19 | dojobo | magnuse, very cool ideas |
| 12:20 | tcohen | andreashm: did you re-try the plack server? :-D |
| 12:20 | Joubu: did u see my message? | |
| 12:20 | hi #koha | |
| 12:20 | dojobo | hello |
| 12:20 | wahanui | que tal, dojobo |
| 12:21 | tcohen | dojobo? |
| 12:21 | magnuse | hiya tcohen and dojobo |
| 12:22 | dojobo | tcohen, magnuse was discussing the idea of implementing linked data in koha |
| 12:22 | tcohen | who are you dojobo? |
| 12:23 | dojobo | uh, my name is Dominic, i work at an astronomical library |
| 12:24 | magnuse what kind of (R)DBMS do you use for a triple store? | |
| 12:32 | Joubu | tcohen: yep, finishing my lunch and I am back |
| 12:35 | magnuse | not a dbms, but an actual triplestore. i have played with a really simple one which is just one php file, called ARC2. also one that is a beast to configure that i can't remember the name of |
| 12:35 | it's been a while since i looked, there might be better alternatives now | |
| 12:35 | tcohen | your patches for bug 14778 fix the problems with MySQL connection drops |
| 12:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14778 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , DBIC should create/own the DB handler |
| 12:37 | tcohen | Joubu: import is incredibly slow now, but doesn't break the app |
| 12:37 | magnuse | ah, virtuoso |
| 12:39 | dojobo | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]-object_databases |
| 12:39 | i know DPLA (digital public library of america) is using apache marmotta | |
| 12:41 | Joubu | tcohen: back |
| 12:43 | dojobo | magnuse have you looked at bibframe at all? |
| 12:43 | it's an initiative to do linked data with library catalogs | |
| 12:45 | tcohen | @seen marcelr |
| 12:45 | huginn | tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 1 day, 6 hours, 8 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <marcelr> hi #koha |
| 12:45 | dojobo | i'm not sure it provides much technical help yet though, it might be more oriented towards RDF vocabularies and such |
| 12:45 | tcohen | @later tell marcelr come back |
| 12:45 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:46 | dojobo | looks like they do have a marcxml -> rdf transformation tool though |
| 12:47 | http://www.loc.gov/bibframe/ | |
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| 12:47 | magnuse | dojobo: i have not looked at it, but i think it is too early to decide on anything, and i think it has been critized for creating another library gettho, without building on things others have already done |
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| 13:00 | dojobo | magnuse: yeah, even the website has "use cases" with no link, and MARC mapping says "coming soon" :P |
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| 13:11 | * andreashm | was away, but now stumbles back |
| 13:11 | andreashm | the problem of going out to get some coffee and end up talking to co-workers for a long time. =) |
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| 13:12 | andreashm | magnuse: yes, showing some practical use is good - but first we need to have circulation and so forth working with the imported RDF |
| 13:12 | tcohen: no, haven't had time today. might look around a little now though. | |
| 13:14 | magnuse | andreashm: yeah, that is why i prefer to transform marc2rdf, and use the rdf to build cool things while circ etc still works with the marc data |
| 13:14 | one notch less radical than deichman :-) | |
| 13:15 | andreashm | hehe |
| 13:16 | well, our perspective is how we can get Koha to work better with LIBRIS XL - which would probably be better of not converting the data to Marc. | |
| 13:16 | But items shouldn't be a problem really as that is not Marc, but separate tables in the database? | |
| 13:16 | magnuse | i have a serial set to create items on receiving, but when i get to the item detail for no barcode ($y) is generated when i click in the barcode field. anyone else seen that? |
| 13:17 | andreashm: yeah, maybe :-) | |
| 13:17 | but ripping marc out of koha and replacing it with rdf is going to be a huge thing | |
| 13:17 | much easier if you can dumb the rdf down to (very, very) minimal marc records that koha can chew on | |
| 13:18 | s/item detail for/item detail form/ | |
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| 13:21 | andreashm | magnuse: so keep RDF for OPAC (and perhaps staff?) for fun stuff, and at the same time create slim marc record for circulation etc.? |
| 13:21 | magnuse | andreashm: yup. not perfect, but doable, i think |
| 13:22 | andreashm | since my perspective is the staff interface (we don't use the OPAC) - how will that be affected by your idea? |
| 13:24 | also, I'm considering how such an approach would impact the harvesting of records. | |
| 13:24 | but I kind of like the thought. =) | |
| 13:28 | magnuse | so far, i have only thought about the opac :-) |
| 13:29 | but yeah, transform rdf to minimal marc and store that in koha so items and issues etc can hang off them | |
| 13:31 | then use circ etc as normal | |
| 13:32 | i guess browsing and searching in the staff client could also be enhanced with rdf data, to make it easier for staff to help patrons | |
| 13:32 | but the real interesting thing about rdf to me is the possibility to create meaningful connections between things, thus enhancing discovery | |
| 13:36 | * magnuse | wanders off to make dinner |
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| 13:57 | Joubu | my 10£ ikea standing desk have just fallen down :-/ |
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| 14:03 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8236: (QA followup) fix test count error due to bad merge <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c82122607bcade2b5> / Bug 11759: DBRev 3.21.00.038 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]854fd1da075e7ed63> / Bug 11759: (QA followup) Sysprefs should be kosher <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a=commitdiff;h=2f |
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| 14:29 | cbrannon | Would love it if someone could run 14694 and 11565 through QA. :) |
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| 14:47 | tcohen | jajm: could you take a look at 14674 please? |
| 14:48 | bug 14694 | |
| 14:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14694 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Make decreaseloanHighHolds more flexible |
| 14:48 | tcohen | bug 11565 |
| 14:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11565 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , decreaseLoanHighHolds needs Override |
| 14:52 | jajm | tcohen, sure |
| 14:53 | tcohen | jajm: might be blocker for the 'attach files' functionality |
| 14:53 | i mean, I consider it blocker | |
| 15:00 | magnuse | Joubu: blame andreashm ;-) |
| 15:00 | * Joubu | is blaming andreashm |
| 15:00 | Joubu | magnuse: why? :) |
| 15:03 | bug 14778 is ready for testing (cc ashimema :)) | |
| 15:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14778 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , DBIC should create/own the DB handler |
| 15:03 | ashimema | :) |
| 15:03 | will try to take a look this evening.. | |
| 15:03 | thanks Joubu++ | |
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| 15:06 | cait | Joubu: around? |
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| 15:07 | Joubu | cait: yep |
| 15:07 | cait | internet connection is really bad |
| 15:07 | Joubu | If it's not for patching tests, I can help |
| 15:07 | cait | i just uploaded 8436 (managed barely) |
| 15:07 | i am gulty of writing 2 follow ups | |
| 15:07 | could you take a look? | |
| 15:08 | i blame too much time on trains.... | |
| 15:10 | * cait | moves on to messing up the next bug |
| 15:19 | tcohen | bug 8436 |
| 15:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8436 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Add branch limit on checkexpiration.pl |
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| 15:21 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 15:22 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 11.0°C (5:00 PM CEST on October 20, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Falling). |
| 15:22 | reiveune | bye |
| 15:22 | cait | Joubu: sorry, lost connection |
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| 15:22 | Joubu | cait: i haven't answered anything :) |
| 15:22 | cait | too shocked? :P |
| 15:22 | Joubu | I am doing dozen of things at the same time, I don't think I will have a look today |
| 15:22 | cait | that's alright |
| 15:23 | i understand,maybe julian can take a look | |
| 15:23 | i could have failed it... but then ended up fixing it | |
| 15:23 | at least i hope it's fixing :) | |
| 15:28 | * tcohen | strongly belives we shouldn't be pushing stuff between 23:00 and 23:59 (bug 15029) |
| 15:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15029 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Tests fail if launched after 23:00 |
| 15:33 | cait | tcohen: sonds like a good rule |
| 15:33 | * cait | waves at tcohen from the train |
| 15:33 | cait | looking at 8296 now |
| 15:34 | tcohen | hi cait! |
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| 15:36 | cait | :) |
| 15:36 | pianohacker | :) |
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| 16:06 | Joubu | bye #koha |
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| 16:42 | pianohacker | ashimema: around? |
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| 17:36 | xarragon_ | If I need to store something like a list of key-value pairs, is that suitable for a syspref? |
| 17:38 | pianohacker | xarragon_: there's some precedent for that, see UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin |
| 17:40 | xarragon_ | pianohacker: Ok, great! thanks |
| 17:42 | pianohacker: Ah, yeah, multiline edit box will work fine. I forgot you could use them. Single-line would be cumbersome as it is a list of potentially long URLs. Thanks agaiN! | |
| 17:44 | sophie_m: | |
| 17:45 | Sorry, mis-pressed ^^ | |
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| 18:16 | tcohen | is there a Template::Toolkit function for lowercase text? |
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| 18:19 | tcohen | FILTER lower |
| 18:25 | wizzyrea: ? | |
| 18:25 | @wunder wellington | |
| 18:25 | huginn | tcohen: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 18:28 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14676: (QA followup) Fix case problems carried from the past <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4a64a04d7998898fb> / Bug 14676: (QA followup) Make title, breadcrumbs and labels consistent <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]20d9c91651bd98fd1> / Bug 14676: (QA followup) remove useless patroncards-menu.inc file <http:/ | |
| 18:38 | New commit(s) kohagit: Translation files update <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5038f484c531836bd> | |
| 18:46 | tcohen | later #koha |
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| 19:41 | * andreashm | waves |
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| 19:44 | andreashm | hi tcohen |
| 19:45 | I'm trying to test again but keep getting session time-outs - sometimes after only a few seconds (the first thing I click on even) | |
| 19:46 | tcohen | andreashm: that's new :-/ |
| 19:48 | andreashm | I thought it was a bad internet connection on the train home, but it's the same here. I tried different log-ins and browsers |
| 19:52 | tcohen | andreashm: i disabled SessionRestrictionByIP and am trying |
| 19:53 | i'm not kicked out anymore | |
| 19:53 | andreashm: can u try? | |
| 19:54 | pianohacker | what sessionstorage are we using, tcohen? |
| 19:54 | tcohen | it was mysql |
| 19:54 | it is memcached now | |
| 19:54 | pianohacker | is that generally more reliable? I thought they were all mostly equivalent |
| 19:55 | tcohen | maybe i should leave mysql |
| 19:57 | ok, setting to mysql made it kick me out | |
| 20:03 | pianohacker | wtf? |
| 20:03 | oh, no, that makes sense I guess | |
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| 20:11 | andreashm | Tcohen: It seems to work now. |
| 20:14 | My daughter was crying in her sleep, so I had to go check on her and got logged out of IRC. | |
| 20:16 | wizzyrea | hi sorry what? |
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| 20:18 | wizzyrea | interesting, wonder if that's the thing the guy on the list was seeing, that mysql session storage caused weird timeouts |
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| 20:19 | * cait | waves |
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| 20:24 | hbraum | tcohen andreashm just saw your comments about the timeouts; I saw the same earlier. glad it wasn’t just me. |
| 20:25 | pianohacker | hbraum: tcohen's fix work for you? |
| 20:26 | hbraum | pianohacker: I haven’t been back in to check; still trying to get a ticket audit done :) will check again in a bit. |
| 20:26 | pianohacker | kk cool |
| 21:15 | hbraum | pianohacker plack system no longer timing out on me so yes fix worked |
| 21:15 | cait | hbraum++ :) |
| 21:15 | pianohacker | woot! |
| 21:15 | tcohen++ | |
| 21:15 | hbraum++ | |
| 21:17 | cait | pianohacker++ too http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.24 |
| 21:18 | hbraum | but staging/importing records still isn’t working as expected. staging bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15032 |
| 21:18 | huginn | 04Bug 15032: major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , Plack testing -- Stage MARC records for import -- Internal Server Error/Stalled Staged Import |
| 21:20 | pianohacker | cait: All of admin will be pretty |
| 21:20 | ALL OF IT | |
| 21:20 | hbraum | and i got another internal server error when trying to import a staged record batch — file another bug report? Or reopen 15034 that tomas had marked as duplicate of 14778? I’m a little confused on how/where to file these for the plack testing. |
| 21:21 | cait | pianohacker: are patches on the rancor bug now the latest? |
| 21:21 | pianohacker | hbraum: I'd say attach it to bug 15032 |
| 21:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15032 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , Plack testing -- Stage MARC records for import -- Internal Server Error/Stalled Staged Import |
| 21:21 | hbraum | will do thanks pianohacker |
| 21:22 | cait | pianohacker: not sure rewriting it from scratch was the idea for maintainers :P |
| 21:22 | eythian | hi |
| 21:22 | cait | morning eythian :) |
| 21:22 | pianohacker | cait: ? |
| 21:22 | (to your second question) | |
| 21:22 | I had to rebase the patches | |
| 21:23 | cait | i am still owing you a proof read |
| 21:23 | just been travelling too much :( | |
| 21:23 | pianohacker | the patches on the bug are the latest, yes :) |
| 21:24 | cait | ok |
| 21:24 | pianohacker | oh! I see what you mean |
| 21:24 | I won't rewrite it from scratch... just make it pretty :) | |
| 21:26 | cait: and if you want to view the code in a different format, bz11559 on my github is up to date | |
| 21:26 | cait | not tonight probably, but still trying |
| 21:26 | pianohacker | no worries |
| 21:26 | cait | trying to finish some things i started on the train |
| 21:30 | hbraum | cait: I’m trying to continue to test some of the upload features for Plack to see if anything fails; here’s where I know of upload areas: 1) staging marc records 2) patron import 3) image for biblio record 4) barcode files for batch edit & delete 5) exporting record data 6) deleted biblios 7) uploading files to patron record. Is there anything I missed? |
| 21:30 | cait | hm patron image upload maybe? |
| 21:31 | hbraum | ty! |
| 21:31 | cait | from the patron record and with the batch tool |
| 21:31 | oh and inventory | |
| 21:31 | and the batch edit/delete | |
| 21:31 | tools | |
| 21:31 | hbraum | yep got batch edit/delete on my list to check. |
| 21:31 | tyvm | |
| 21:31 | cait | ah sorry, missed that |
| 21:31 | long list :) | |
| 21:31 | hbraum | no worries; yes it is. |
| 21:33 | * cait | sighs looking at the list of enh and new features in qa queue |
| 21:33 | cait | long list |
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| 21:34 | * pianohacker | whispers "raaaaaancooooor" |
| 21:35 | cait | yeah that too |
| 21:35 | and that's not even in the list | |
| 21:37 | * Francesca | waves |
| 21:38 | * cait | waves back |
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| 22:21 | cait | eythian: did you see 14778? |
| 22:22 | eythian | bug 14778 |
| 22:22 | wahanui | bug 14778 is ready for testing (cc ashimema :)) |
| 22:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14778 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , DBIC should create/own the DB handler |
| 22:22 | eythian | should I have? |
| 22:22 | cait | the last comment is for you i think |
| 22:22 | just reading today's bug mails | |
| 22:22 | eythian | oh right |
| 22:26 | hbraum | thx cait for the help on the upload testing list; filed two more patches in the process of my plack testing. |
| 22:27 | cait | wish you hadn#t found so many things... but glad they are found the same time :) |
| 22:27 | hbraum | i hate it, too, but…. better found than not found! what i’m finding may in the end be unrelated to plack — but not assuming anything at this point. |
| 22:28 | cait | thx a lot for your testing |
| 22:28 | super helpful | |
| 22:29 | hbraum | you’re welcome. :) i put our test server through these paces before every major version upgrade. this stuff I can do. And I want Plack to work! |
| 22:29 | i’m headed out shortly. will try to coninue test a bit more tomorrow. have a great/day/evening all. | |
| 22:35 | cait | @later tell hbraum thought of another one - uploading invoice files in acq |
| 22:35 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 22:40 | tcohen | hi |
| 22:40 | wahanui | hi, tcohen |
| 22:41 | tcohen | hey wahanui |
| 22:46 | Francesca | wahanui cats |
| 22:46 | wahanui | cats are endlessly entertaining. or cuddly and cute |
| 22:46 | Francesca | @wunder wlg |
| 22:46 | huginn | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (11:30 AM NZDT on October 21, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:54 | eythian | no wahanui, cats is <reply>The only good cat is a stir-fried cat. |
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| 22:54 | pianohacker | what! |
| 22:54 | Francesca | what???? |
| 22:54 | kathryn joined #koha | |
| 22:54 | pianohacker | hey now, you're saying bad things about cats around _librarians_ |
| 22:55 | dangerous business | |
| 22:55 | Francesca | glad someone agrees with me |
| 22:55 | cats are cute | |
| 22:55 | eythian | http://www.alftv.com/quotes.php <-- I feel like you need more culture |
| 22:55 | Francesca | ok |
| 22:56 | wizzyrea | lol alf. |
| 22:56 | Francesca | not sure what I just read but ok |
| 22:56 | wizzyrea | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALF_%28TV_series%29 |
| 22:57 | eythian | what sort of person doesn't know about Alf? |
| 22:57 | Francesca | ah lol |
| 22:57 | pianohacker | it's something from before we were born, Francesca |
| 22:57 | Francesca | hahahaha |
| 22:57 | ibeardslee | oh right yes, Francesca is a youngun |
| 22:57 | pianohacker | just smile and nod until the old people go away |
| 22:57 | Francesca | lol |
| 22:57 | wizzyrea | RUDE. |
| 22:57 | eythian | that's no excuse. I know about the moon landing and the roman empire. |
| 22:57 | wizzyrea | ^^^ |
| 22:58 | pianohacker | and alf is of the same magnitude? ;) |
| 22:58 | Francesca | I know about the roman empire - took classics |
| 22:58 | eythian | pianohacker: yes. |
| 22:58 | pianohacker | hahahaha okay |
| 22:58 | Francesca | lol |
| 22:58 | tcohen | cats are like robots |
| 22:58 | wizzyrea | the trolling is strong today. |
| 22:58 | * tcohen | loves them |
| 22:58 | Francesca | hahaha |
| 22:59 | * Francesca | is also a cat person |
| 22:59 | Francesca | tcohen how is a cat like a robot? |
| 22:59 | cait | both are cool? |
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| 23:00 | cait | ok, time to sleep |
| 23:00 | tcohen | they only want food, if you think about it |
| 23:00 | it is pretty clear | |
| 23:00 | kathryn | night cait :) |
| 23:00 | tcohen | they have no feelings |
| 23:00 | cait | :) |
| 23:00 | night all | |
| 23:00 | wahanui | goodnight cait. You'll be back. |
| 23:00 | tcohen | we want them to have them, but they don't |
| 23:00 | kathryn | hi tcohen :) |
| 23:00 | Francesca | bye cair |
| 23:00 | cait | |
| 23:00 | tcohen | bye cait |
| 23:00 | eythian | later cait |
| 23:00 | kathryn | and hi francesca :) |
| 23:00 | Francesca | sup |
| 23:00 | kathryn | and all. there! |
| 23:01 | tcohen | if they had bigger claws, they would just rip our heads of |
| 23:01 | f | |
| 23:01 | Francesca | hahahaha |
| 23:01 | cait | um thx for the picture |
| 23:01 | ... now i probably can't sleep! | |
| 23:01 | tcohen | heh, keep one eye open cait |
| 23:01 | pianohacker | </trolling>never really watched or heard much about alf... parents were into different 80s shows like mork and mindy or night court |
| 23:02 | kathryn | hi pianohacker :) |
| 23:02 | pianohacker | hi kathryn :) |
| 23:02 | Francesca | so pianohacker - hows the piano hacking going? |
| 23:03 | pianohacker | Francesca: excellently! Doing a lot of Hanon :P |
| 23:03 | ibeardslee | oh, if Francesca took classics she really should know about Alf. It is a classic. |
| 23:04 | eythian | ^^^ |
| 23:05 | * Francesca | facepalms |
| 23:05 | wahanui | rumour has it facepalms is a tiny member of the Arecaceae family whose preference for warm, humid environments makes it a perfect choice for cultivation in the human nasal cavity |
| 23:06 | pianohacker | haha wtf wahanui |
| 23:06 | Francesca | it gets better |
| 23:06 | wahanui literal facepalm | |
| 23:06 | wahanui | Francesca: facepalm =is= <reply>http://buikitty.files.wordpres[…]120202-094434.jpg|a tiny member of the Arecaceae family whose preference for warm, humid environments makes it a perfect choice for cultivation in the human nasal cavity.|<reply> http://media1.giphy.com/media/[…]5ibpuFO/giphy.gif |
| 23:06 | pianohacker | wow |
| 23:07 | Francesca | ohh theres a start trek one there now |
| 23:07 | cool | |
| 23:07 | pianohacker | are we calling alf a classic like Asimov, or a classic like Star Wars? |
| 23:07 | eythian | you understand that star trek is older than alf, right? |
| 23:07 | pianohacker | clearly this must be debated to death |
| 23:07 | :) | |
| 23:07 | Francesca | mum likes star trek |
| 23:07 | and so does dad | |
| 23:07 | so I was exposed as a little kid | |
| 23:08 | dont think anyone in the family watches alf | |
| 23:08 | pianohacker | ^ same |
| 23:09 | tcohen | wahanui: plack issues? |
| 23:09 | wahanui | hmmm... plack issues is http://media1.giphy.com/media/[…]5ibpuFO/giphy.gif |
| 23:09 | Francesca | hahahaha |
| 23:10 | pianohacker | can we make plack issues return a gif of "ludicrous speed" 90% of the time and that gif 10% of the time? |
| 23:10 | Francesca | lol |
| 23:11 | tcohen | LOL |
| 23:14 | eythian | wahanui: llama is https://youtu.be/jJOwdrTA8Gw |
| 23:14 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 23:14 | pianohacker | wahanui: plack issues is also http://i.imgur.com/uTnI2.gif |
| 23:14 | wahanui | okay, pianohacker. |
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| 23:16 | wizzyrea | http://i.imgur.com/JmBkN.gif < also for plack |
| 23:18 | pianohacker | ha! Yes. |
| 23:22 | good night all :) | |
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