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| 01:58 | wizzyrea | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEC4nZ-yga8 |
| 02:00 | tcohen | excellent song! |
| 02:00 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 02:00 | * tcohen | loves bjork |
| 02:00 | wizzyrea | yeah same |
| 02:00 | just very quiet in here :) | |
| 02:02 | tcohen | who would start another big riot? |
| 02:02 | wizzyrea | bjork, of course :D |
| 02:02 | eythian | I kinda went off björk when I heard her music. |
| 02:03 | wizzyrea | yeah, that doesn't seem like it would be your thing so much. |
| 02:03 | :D | |
| 02:04 | I had a roommate in uni that was simply obsessed with bjork. Since she was one of my favourite people ever, I ended up rather liking bjork. | |
| 02:05 | tcohen | hahahaha |
| 02:06 | ibeardslee | she (well as part of sugarcubes?) had a song I quite liked .. but damned if I can work out what it was. |
| 02:08 | wizzyrea | what was it about? |
| 02:09 | i.e. what do you remember about it | |
| 02:11 | tcohen | human behaviour |
| 02:42 | eythian | http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/11013 <-- interesting stuff on Catmandu |
| 02:56 | wizzyrea | hey I know that person from twitter. |
| 03:09 | mtj | . |
| 03:09 | oops | |
| 03:12 | ibeardslee: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s-It | |
| 03:12 | ^ thats a really great sugarcubes album | |
| 03:13 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]SQWAFJTZDnZX1RxYp | |
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| 04:37 | mveron | Good morning / daytime #koha |
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| 06:02 | ashimema | . |
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| 06:24 | cait | oh martin |
| 06:24 | ashimema: ... | |
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| 06:27 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 06:34 | eythian | well, I think I have roughly 1/4th of my talk written |
| 06:34 | time to go home | |
| 06:45 | cait | later eythian |
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| 06:50 | magnuse | have fun eythian |
| 06:51 | cait | bbiab |
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| 06:52 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:52 | wahanui | kia ora, reiveune |
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| 06:54 | alex_a | hello |
| 06:59 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:59 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on October 21, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:59 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 06:59 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 10.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on October 21, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:59 | magnuse | ooh, not a big difference |
| 07:08 | gah! all those strings beginning with %s%s%sKoha online%s catalog › ... | |
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| 07:23 | Francesca | hi |
| 07:23 | wahanui | que tal, Francesca |
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| 07:31 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:48 | glen | Can anyone tell me what the login and password are for the koha314-demo VM ? Have just installed under ESX but doesn't seem to be any docs. |
| 07:49 | ashimema | 314... we're on 320 with 322 just around the corner.. why are you trying out 314? |
| 07:49 | no idea about vm passwords I'm afriad | |
| 07:50 | glen | I run Fedora 20 and 22 and needed to try it out. If there is a VM of 320, where can I get it. I got 314 from the download site |
| 07:51 | I have attempted to do an install gro tar file onto Fedora but there are too many dependencies that I can't resolve in a shared webserver environmnet | |
| 07:52 | Am prepared to build a Debian VM but it would be an orphan in our environment so was hoping for a shortcut :-) | |
| 07:54 | ashimema | ah.. I see |
| 07:54 | wow.. you must have had to search hard to find that vm | |
| 07:54 | it's not been supported since 2013 I'm afriad | |
| 07:55 | In general the vast majority of us are using debian and packages are the recommended install route for simplicity | |
| 07:55 | However, I am aware of a few people running on redhat and suse.. so you 'should' be able to run on fedora.. | |
| 07:55 | but as you say, if you're on a hosting that's locked down you will be unlikely to manage to install all the dependancies. | |
| 07:55 | :( | |
| 07:56 | glen | It was easy to find http://download.koha-community.org/vm |
| 07:56 | ashimema | Is this your first foray into koha? |
| 07:57 | glen | Yes, I am a hosting providier and have been asked by a customer to host for them. I was hoping to run on one of our shared platforms but it may be I'll just roll a webserver just for them. |
| 07:58 | ashimema | @later tell wizzyrea any chance we could hide the vm koha (314) a bit better from the downloads page on koha-community.. it's a tad misleading |
| 07:58 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:58 | glen | Hence my wnting a shortcut and reluctance to have an orphan OS |
| 07:59 | ashimema | understandable.. though your customer would likely get a less than wonderful experience using a koha that's no longer supported.. having said that it 'should' be trivial to update the koha in place on the vm |
| 07:59 | what details are you lacking.. the os logins, or the koha app logins? | |
| 08:00 | if you have console access.. which of course you should.. you should be able to find the koha admin login details in the config file | |
| 08:00 | glen | They are a not-for-profit and have a very small library and few subscribers. They had KOHA recommended to them by someone else. |
| 08:01 | ashimema | if it's a package based install (i have no idea at this point what that vm was built as) then /etc/koha/sites/whatever/koha-conf.xml is your friend. |
| 08:01 | glen | Yep have console access and it asks for a user and password, not suer if that is for the OS or is running the ap already. |
| 08:02 | My preferred install is probably from a tar file on a Fedora 20 webserver, so I might clone one of our platforms so that I can add extar dependencies without impacting other users | |
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| 08:03 | ashimema | that sounds like the optimal solution for you to be honest.. |
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| 08:03 | ashimema | I'm currently searching through a few years of mail to see if I can dig out those login details for you |
| 08:04 | but I'm not feeling very hopeful I'm afriad | |
| 08:04 | glen | Cool, no problem starting again, just an hour or so omf my time :-( |
| 08:05 | Thanks for your comments. If you do find anything can you email me glenagre.enterprises, I may still have a go at the 'appliance approach' |
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| 08:06 | lo | |
| 08:06 | ashimema | sure thing |
| 08:06 | sorry I couldn't be of much help :( | |
| 08:07 | glen | Nice to know there is a community out there though :-) |
| 08:12 | * cait | waves |
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| 08:19 | * andreashm | waves |
| 08:20 | * cait | waves |
| 08:24 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 08:40 | magnuse | woohoo - batch checkout! |
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| 08:43 | andreashm | woot |
| 08:44 | magnuse | :-) |
| 08:45 | andreashm | anyone know if there has been any progress on the base for the restful api, if it will make it into 3.22? |
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| 08:46 | ashimema | 'tis on todays hit list for me |
| 08:46 | magnuse | bug 13799 |
| 08:46 | wahanui | somebody said bug 13799 was ready to go in master, if nobody complains about it |
| 08:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13799 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Add base for building RESTful API |
| 08:46 | andreashm | ashimema: sounds great! |
| 08:47 | magnuse | go ashimema go! |
| 08:49 | cait | ashimema++ |
| 08:49 | i distracted him with another bug question *hides* | |
| 08:50 | andreashm | caaaaait! =) |
| 08:51 | * cait | makes herself invisible |
| 08:52 | andreashm | cait: while I'm at it, how's it going with (Viktors) bugs related to overdues/notises? =) |
| 08:52 | cait | i am trying to work throuhg the qa list best i can this week - going by age a bit |
| 08:53 | there is lots of good stuff in there, but probably nt all will make it before monday :( | |
| 08:53 | * magnuse | gives cait the rest of the week off work |
| 08:53 | cait | hah |
| 08:53 | that would be great :) | |
| 08:53 | * andreashm | too |
| 08:54 | andreashm | tell your boss I said so! =) |
| 08:54 | * magnuse | too! |
| 08:54 | andreashm | "Scandinavia said I can take the week off" |
| 08:54 | cait | we have a go live next week too... so |
| 08:54 | andreashm | bah. |
| 08:54 | =) | |
| 08:54 | cait | yeah, full month :) |
| 08:55 | andreashm | this fall has been crazy busy, every month since coming back from summer vacation. |
| 08:56 | so much so that we haven't had time to test the OAI harvester, so it won't make it into 3.22. =( | |
| 08:56 | magnuse | gah, the item edit form for biblios is subtly different from the form you get when you receive a serial issue and add an item... |
| 08:57 | cait | i feel with you... pretty much the same problem here |
| 08:57 | i almost had working order emails... but never got to finish them really :( | |
| 08:58 | there will still be a lot of nice things in this release | |
| 08:58 | like the enh for the on-site checouts | |
| 08:58 | batch checkouts sound intersting too | |
| 08:58 | a lot of things i can remember right now as well :) | |
| 09:00 | can't remember... | |
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| 09:04 | andreashm | REST API! =) |
| 09:05 | magnuse | git shortlog 22a6d3fe2ef8f4aad8b689c577bf347954301481..HEAD :-) |
| 09:10 | or git log --oneline 22a6d3fe2ef8f4aad8b689c577bf347954301481..HEAD | |
| 09:10 | andreashm | how does Koha check for duplicates (matching records)? Are there set rules, or can you configure this? |
| 09:11 | magnuse | i thnk there are two different ways - if you enter a new record it compares the title and maybe author. if you do a batch import you can set up matching rules |
| 09:11 | i think... | |
| 09:14 | ah yes Home › Administration › Record matching rules | |
| 09:14 | * ashimema | goes for tea.. upon return it time to think swagger |
| 09:17 | andreashm | Tea and Swagger! Tea and Swagger! |
| 09:18 | * andreashm | just thought it sounded funny. Disregard. |
| 09:19 | andreashm | Does Koha care if imported records with ISBN number have dashes in them or not? I.e. would it affect searches/matching for duplicates etc.? |
| 09:22 | like, for batch exports, should we strip ISBN:s to numbers only for Koha's matching rules to work? | |
| 09:22 | batch imports, I mean | |
| 09:23 | magnuse | i think it used to matter, but i am not sure if it has been fixed |
| 09:23 | it uses the zebra indexes | |
| 09:23 | * andreashm | has a scambled barin today. Was up a lot during the night with Ruby. |
| 09:23 | magnuse | not the programming language, i presume? |
| 09:23 | andreashm | magnuse: did you look at that for ftp2koha? |
| 09:24 | or did you leave it up to Halland to make sure its setting from LIBRIS would work with the matching rules? | |
| 09:26 | magnuse | hm, i don't think i thought about it... |
| 09:28 | or did i? | |
| 09:29 | btw bug 13528, but "this only works if UseQueryParser is disabled" | |
| 09:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13528 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Ability to search on the different isbn variations |
| 09:31 | magnuse | andreashm: doesn't look like we do any matching: https://github.com/Libriotech/[…]/ftp2koha.pl#L103 i have a faint memory telling me that might be how they wanted it |
| 09:35 | cait | andreashm: what doy ou want to do? |
| 09:35 | we have a matching rule on 001 for example - that's the identifier from our union catalog for us | |
| 09:38 | Joubu | hello |
| 09:38 | cait | morning Joubu :) |
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| 09:42 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 09:51 | cait | hi drojf |
| 09:56 | drojf | hi cait |
| 09:56 | just finished the german translation for the staff client. looks like the server exploded at the last one | |
| 09:57 | no, it just said i reached the end, but the popup was out if the screen | |
| 09:58 | and now it is not all finished. thats funny | |
| 10:00 | cait | drojf: thx a lot for taking care of it |
| 10:00 | i will focus on qa this week | |
| 10:00 | :) | |
| 10:00 | and... all the other things | |
| 10:00 | lunch! bbl | |
| 10:13 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen why haven't you pushed the last patch on bug 8417? |
| 10:13 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:21 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen jenkins conf files for master u14 and d7 are not in sync (3 t/db_dependent/www/* entries are missing for d7). And they fail because KOHA_INTRANET_URL is not defined |
| 10:21 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:23 | Joubu | @later tell pianohacker as futur MM for the admin area, bugs 14828, 14836 and 14889 might interest you |
| 10:23 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 10:37 | andreashm | back. reading the log. |
| 10:39 | cait: we might end up going with batch importing (magnuse's ftp2koha work: https://github.com/Libriotech/ftp2koha) if OAI harvesting is not complete when we go live. | |
| 10:41 | one export parameter from LIBRIS is how to handle ISBN (depending on matching rules in the local systems). but we should be able to match 001 (LIBRIS Id) as well. | |
| 10:57 | cait | andreashm: that's what we currently do - a nightly import using the staged marc import from command line |
| 10:57 | there are scripts to do that -just a little hidden | |
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| 10:58 | andreashm | cait: ok, thanks |
| 11:01 | cait | it seems to work quite well... if that is helpful to know :) |
| 11:03 | drojf | cait: team german done :) |
| 11:04 | wasn't much really | |
| 11:04 | but i have not tested yet | |
| 11:04 | cait | great - thx! |
| 11:04 | drojf++ | |
| 11:08 | magnuse | drojf: wanna do the nb-NO intranet one too? |
| 11:10 | drojf | magnuse: not dure if my norwegian is enough :D |
| 11:11 | sure | |
| 11:15 | magnuse | oh well, i tried... ;-) |
| 11:18 | ooh, look at bug 15042, all ready to be signed off | |
| 11:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15042 major, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Barcode <branchcode>yymm0001 does not work when receiving serials |
| 11:21 | cait | khall: just saw your follow up - i think there will be a conflict with the patch for the grace period (both go in smart-rules) so probably willl need to rebase one of those |
| 11:21 | khall | yeah, I bet you are right! |
| 11:22 | cait: do you recall that bug number? | |
| 11:22 | drojf | cait: tried the translation files on a 3.20.4, no errors |
| 11:22 | khall | 13590 |
| 11:22 | cait: you're referring to bug 13590 right? | |
| 11:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13590 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add ability to charge fines at start of charge period |
| 11:23 | cait | khall: not pushed yet, but one will be the first... and then the other will need a little love i think |
| 11:23 | yep | |
| 11:23 | khall | right, I'm going to make 9129 depend on 13590 and resolve the conflicts |
| 11:24 | cait | not sure what works best - leaving it to you |
| 11:24 | just noticed it could get a problem | |
| 11:25 | drojf | @later tell mveron de-DE is done (if you want to use it for de-CH) |
| 11:25 | huginn | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:30 | khall | cait: can you qa 15043 quick? It's the easiest qa you'll ever do ; ) |
| 11:31 | magnuse | bug 15043 |
| 11:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15043 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Bottom table header row for circulation rules missing a column |
| 11:33 | Joubu | khall: I have already submitted a patch for that |
| 11:33 | khall | Joubu: excellent! I'll close mine out |
| 11:33 | Joubu: what's the bug number? | |
| 11:34 | Joubu | I have added it on bug 14045 actually |
| 11:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14045 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add specific quotas to on-site checkout |
| 11:34 | Joubu | I thought Tomas would have pushed it directly |
| 11:34 | khall | nope |
| 11:35 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen, please push the followup on bug 14045 |
| 11:35 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:37 | magnuse | talk of the rm... |
| 11:39 | Joubu | tcohen: hi :) |
| 11:40 | khall | mornin tcohen! |
| 11:42 | tcohen | hi Joubu |
| 11:42 | hi khall | |
| 11:43 | Joubu: I forgot about 8417 followup | |
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| 11:43 | Joubu | tcohen: and 14045 too :) |
| 11:43 | tcohen | and it is possible that not all nodes have the apahe confguration |
| 11:44 | * tcohen | makes notes for when he reaches the office (having breakfast now) |
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| 11:45 | tcohen | hi fridolin |
| 11:45 | magnuse | on my plack install i had koha set to store sessions in memcached, but no memcached. i installed memcached and restarted my instance, but koha is still creating cgisess_* files in /tmp. anything particular i need to do to get that to work? |
| 11:45 | fridolin | hie tcohen |
| 11:45 | * andreashm | waves |
| 11:46 | tcohen | hi andreashm |
| 11:46 | fridolin | magnuse: there are memcache env vars in Apache config I know |
| 11:46 | magnuse | yup, those should be ok |
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| 11:47 | tcohen | whatsup magnuse? |
| 11:48 | ah | |
| 11:48 | andreashm | is there a way to send a notice when a book is marked as lost, currently? |
| 11:48 | tcohen | magnuse: you need to restart plack, once things are loaded, they remain in memory |
| 11:49 | magnuse | tcohen: with "sudo koha-plack --restart <instance>" or something else? |
| 11:49 | tcohen | magnuse: exactly |
| 11:49 | magnuse | i already did that... |
| 11:49 | tcohen | so it is not working? |
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| 11:51 | magnuse | hm, maybe it's working now... |
| 11:51 | nope, still getting new cgisess files | |
| 12:13 | cait | @later tell Viktor ping! |
| 12:13 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 12:24 | tcohen | hi |
| 12:24 | magnuse | ¡hola tcohen! |
| 12:30 | what are the usernames/passwords for the plack demo from bywater again? | |
| 12:31 | found it, soory! | |
| 12:31 | Joubu | magnuse: test_xxx / test_xxx with 1 <= xxx <= 100 |
| 12:36 | magnuse | Joubu: thanks! |
| 12:36 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14045: Add missing th in tfoot <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8cf6a92aa463454fb> / Bug 8417: Fix test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bc360643a5daa205d> |
| 12:39 | Joubu | khall: thanks for your comment on bug 12768! :) |
| 12:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12768 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, In Discussion , Replacement cost and processing fee management |
| 12:39 | khall | np! |
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| 12:56 | andreashm | Ah, 12768 - I still hope it can make it in 3.22, if they manage to fix it in time. |
| 12:56 | cait | close call now |
| 12:56 | hope they are aware of the deadline | |
| 12:57 | magnuse | bug 12768 |
| 12:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12768 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, In Discussion , Replacement cost and processing fee management |
| 12:57 | magnuse | in discussion? not good... |
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| 12:58 | Joubu | magnuse: "in discussion" is good, when a discussion exists :) |
| 12:59 | magnuse: and the discussion is just starting, feel free to comment if you have any opinion | |
| 12:59 | magnuse | true :-) |
| 12:59 | andreashm | cait: I'm sure they are, but I saw that Viktor is sick apparently (got an auto reply when I sent him an email today) |
| 13:00 | don't know if any of the devlopers are watching. | |
| 13:00 | cait | oh noes |
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| 13:01 | andreashm | but Eivin is on the cc, at least. |
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| 13:28 | tcohen | Joubu++ # jenkins back to stable |
| 13:29 | Joubu | \o/ |
| 13:31 | cait | Joubu++ |
| 13:32 | tcohen | jenkins fixed? |
| 13:32 | wahanui | well, jenkins fixed is http://i.stack.imgur.com/05ISR.jpg |
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| 13:33 | * tcohen | wanted to make an akira reference but is not really good at that |
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| 13:36 | magnuse | ooh weirdness. under plack, if you are logged out, go to http://intranet/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl and log in, you end up on http://intranet/intranet/mainpage.pl which is 404 |
| 13:36 | Joubu | tcohen: will you watch rugby on sunday? |
| 13:36 | tcohen | probably :-D |
| 13:37 | drojf | can i escape things in the patron import tool? it explodes with records that have " or , in a field |
| 13:37 | tcohen | magnuse, that's not in master |
| 13:37 | right? | |
| 13:37 | Joubu | I hope you will play All Blacks in final :) |
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| 13:38 | magnuse | tcohen: no, 3.20.x with a backport of your koha-plack stuff |
| 13:38 | tcohen | magnuse: exactly :-D |
| 13:38 | you need | |
| 13:39 | bug 15005 | |
| 13:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15005 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , (Plack) Use of SCRIPT_NAME makes Koha generate wrong URIs |
| 13:39 | drojf | also the encoding in the report after patron import is broken |
| 13:40 | cait | drojf: hmm, i think there was something about using multiple "" or so... |
| 13:40 | and your import file need to be utf-8 without bom | |
| 13:40 | drojf | no the encoding is fine. just the report is wrong |
| 13:40 | cait | report it :) |
| 13:40 | drojf | i'll make a screenshot if it comes again. yes |
| 13:41 | Joubu | drojf: Are you sure it's plack related? |
| 13:41 | drojf | Joubu: not at all |
| 13:41 | Joubu | drojf: it's certainly not |
| 13:41 | drojf | there is no plack here atm ;) |
| 13:41 | sorry for the confusion | |
| 13:41 | Joubu | actually I thought I have already fixed it, but I don't find a bug report |
| 13:41 | tcohen | Joubu: i'm bisecting the search bug |
| 13:42 | search tests problem | |
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| 13:48 | magnuse | ah, thanks tcohen |
| 14:00 | tcohen | khall: 12c82427550a4a53e2148d9bf479db3425fef8fd |
| 14:00 | khall | lol |
| 14:01 | tcohen | a sec |
| 14:01 | http://snag.gy/7Wf4w.jpg | |
| 14:02 | Joubu | what does test.sh? |
| 14:02 | tcohen | KOHA_USER=kohaadmin KOHA_PASS=katikoan KOHA_INTRANET_URL=http://koha_master:8080 PERL5LIB=. KOHA_CONF="/home/jenkins/koha_master/etc/koha-conf.xml" prove t/db_dependent/www/auth_values_input_www.t > /dev/null 2>&1 |
| 14:03 | koha_master points to localhost in /etc/hosts | |
| 14:03 | * tcohen | will now patch kohadevbox so it sets those ENV variables for koha-shell kohadev |
| 14:04 | tcohen | khall, Joubu: I'm sure some layout changed so the tests need to be fixed to match the page structure |
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| 14:15 | fridolin | tcohen: where could we find the new features that will come into 3.22 ? |
| 14:16 | Joubu | nowhere |
| 14:16 | fridolin | does it even exist ? |
| 14:16 | Joubu | no |
| 14:16 | tcohen | there are no features frido |
| 14:16 | .-P | |
| 14:16 | Joubu | feature slush is not passed yet |
| 14:16 | tcohen | i can build them for you, later |
| 14:16 | fridolin | tcohen: heuuu new big enhancements |
| 14:16 | Joubu | git log origin/master ? |
| 14:17 | fridolin | oki |
| 14:17 | :D | |
| 14:17 | tcohen | or you can build the release notes the same way you did for 3.14 |
| 14:17 | Joubu | using bugzilla, search for feature/enhancement with status=pushed to master |
| 14:17 | tcohen | but for master |
| 14:17 | fridolin | Joubu: oki I whas thinking about that |
| 14:17 | thanks | |
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| 15:24 | cait | bug 10363 |
| 15:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10363 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , There is no package for authorised values. |
| 15:48 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 16:02 | pianohacker | good |
| 16:02 | morning | |
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| 16:49 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14900: Add ability to pay all fees at once from circulation screen <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5bb41a78f2e5a516a> / Bug 14154: 608$9 defined twice in UNIMARC biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e0c13e3ec5e41a142> / Bug 14871: Extend the patrons search to search like %$term% (checkout |
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| 17:20 | * cait | waves |
| 17:21 | * pianohacker | waves at cait |
| 17:21 | cait | hello :) |
| 17:22 | pianohacker | @seen wnickc |
| 17:22 | huginn | pianohacker: wnickc was last seen in #koha 4 days, 19 hours, 2 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <wnickc> bye all |
| 17:23 | pianohacker | dangit me wants a rancor signoff |
| 17:23 | wantsssssss | |
| 17:25 | cait | that would be nice |
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| 18:38 | avetitch | WWW.EXPOSINGCOMMUNISM.COM |
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| 19:01 | IceCube | Hello all, I was here a few days ago working on moving a databse from an old server to a new one. |
| 19:01 | That migration had some problems so I'm trying it again with a fresh install of everything | |
| 19:02 | I have a question about importing the db | |
| 19:02 | cait | what is it? |
| 19:02 | wahanui | it is something we could get funding for (hint, hint). =) so what would you think is needed more than adding a triple-store for Koha to be able to harvest records from LIBRIS (if we also develop the harvester to handle RDF)? Any ideas? |
| 19:02 | IceCube | hi cait |
| 19:02 | well I followed the directions on the "Koha on Debian" guide | |
| 19:03 | cait | can you give me the link? |
| 19:03 | IceCube | I'm at the point of accessing the web interface but I haven't done that yet |
| 19:03 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bian#Install_Koha | |
| 19:03 | Should I import the databse first and then go to the web interface, or vice versa | |
| 19:03 | cait | hm |
| 19:03 | i'd import the db now | |
| 19:03 | while it's empty | |
| 19:03 | and then the web installer will probably prompt you for updates | |
| 19:04 | IceCube | ok |
| 19:04 | cait | i assume the db is an older version? |
| 19:04 | IceCube | I'll give that a try |
| 19:04 | thanks, cait | |
| 19:04 | cait | keeping fingers crosseed |
| 19:04 | IceCube | haha yeahhh.... |
| 19:04 | this time I'm making a clone of the vm before I move on! Last time I had to start over with a new one because something got corrupted along the way | |
| 19:05 | cait | a clone never hurts |
| 19:05 | but improting the db should cause no problems | |
| 19:05 | IceCube | I am Irish and I am subject to Murphy's law |
| 19:05 | so it seems, anyways. | |
| 19:05 | cait | aren't we all? i think he doesn't care about natoinality |
| 19:06 | IceCube | Well the Irish have spread all over the world so I guess they took him with them! |
| 19:06 | cait | germs? |
| 19:06 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 19:06 | cait | ... |
| 19:08 | ;) | |
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| 19:14 | * cait | waves |
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| 20:22 | tcohen | hi |
| 20:24 | @later tell Joubu no and no | |
| 20:24 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:25 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10363: (QA followups) Fix tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]df75d4ea2bd3091c8> | |
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| 20:46 | wizzyrea | me being back means that koha-community.org is back ;) |
| 20:46 | ashimema: sure. | |
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| 20:48 | jcamins | wizzyrea: we missed you! 45 minutes with no wizzyrea! |
| 20:48 | tcohen | hi ashimema, any news on the REST guidelines? |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | :) I may drop off again |
| 20:49 | because since everyone thinks that kc might be down, I think I might take the upgrade to kvm from xen | |
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| 20:49 | wizzyrea | which will take ~6m |
| 20:52 | tcohen | hi jcamins |
| 20:53 | jcamins | Hello. |
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| 20:55 | wizzyrea | all done! |
| 20:55 | tcohen | wizzyrea++ |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | haha 9:49-9:55, 6m indeed. |
| 20:58 | * tcohen | suspects that's too accurate, even for wizzyrea |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
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| 21:15 | tcohen | @later tell Joubu now is yes and yes |
| 21:15 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:19 | pianohacker | now? |
| 21:19 | wahanui | hey now now, sing this corrosion to me |
| 21:19 | pianohacker | now? |
| 21:19 | wahanui | hey now now, sing this corrosion to me |
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| 21:37 | jcamins | @later tell tcohen Yeah, I know people who use Zebra with TEI. |
| 21:37 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:40 | cait | hm ok |
| 21:40 | what is this trying to tell me? | |
| 21:40 | Dumping manual schema for Koha::Schema to directory ./ ... | |
| 21:40 | DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader::make_schema_at(): Checksum mismatch in './/Koha/Schema/Result/Issuingrule.pm', the auto-generated part of the file has been modified outside of this loader. Aborting. | |
| 21:40 | If you want to overwrite these modifications, set the 'overwrite_modifications' loader option. | |
| 21:45 | tcohen | that means you modified the file outside the place it can be done |
| 21:47 | cait | hm |
| 21:47 | tcohen: could you take a quick glance at 9129= | |
| 21:47 | ? | |
| 21:47 | it happens when I try to test this | |
| 21:48 | and there are also some strange warns when running the test | |
| 21:50 | tcohen | oh |
| 21:50 | he should have left the schema update patch out of the first patch | |
| 21:50 | so you can regenerate it on your own | |
| 21:51 | cait | he made it dependent on the other patch - maybe he fixed a conflict... and then this is what is causing hte problem now |
| 21:51 | ? | |
| 21:51 | tcohen | because you cannot just merge it, because the schema generator will notice the hash doesn't match the file |
| 21:51 | cait: probably | |
| 21:52 | maybe if you manage to strip that out of the patch? | |
| 21:53 | cait | did you see my last commen t- is that cuased by the first problem or another problem? |
| 21:53 | it's late here, so I will ask kyle to fix | |
| 21:54 | tcohen | he has fixed some conflict, for sure |
| 21:54 | merged something | |
| 21:54 | cait | yeah probably |
| 21:54 | i pointed out to him that his 2 patches would be in conflict | |
| 21:54 | once in your queue | |
| 21:54 | because both add new options to issuingrules | |
| 21:54 | so he tried to prevent that by making htem dependent on each other | |
| 21:54 | tcohen | it always happens with dbix updates... |
| 21:55 | he should have provided separate DBIx patches, for people without the knowledge to be able to test his patches | |
| 21:55 | but expecting them to be regenerated on QA or when being pushed | |
| 21:56 | cait | i am asking him to make them separate |
| 21:56 | tcohen | because any change to the table he is changing will make his own changes useless |
| 21:56 | because git will try to merge, and the hash won't be valid anymore | |
| 21:58 | eythian | hi |
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| 22:02 | * andreashm | waves |
| 22:04 | * cait | waves back |
| 22:04 | cait | ruby? |
| 22:04 | wahanui | i heard ruby was easy to install. Any > 1.8.7 works fine |
| 22:05 | andreashm | sleeping |
| 22:05 | I should be too. | |
| 22:05 | eythian | wahanui: that is a lie |
| 22:05 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 22:05 | andreashm | but am annoyed I can't get a SRU server to work in Koha |
| 22:06 | drojf | evening |
| 22:06 | andreashm | hi |
| 22:06 | drojf | what is the problem with sru? |
| 22:07 | andreashm | don't know. I can access it through the browser, but can't make it work in Koha |
| 22:07 | cait | do you want to download in koha or activate koha's sru? |
| 22:07 | andreashm | this one: http://api.libris.kb.se/sru/libris |
| 22:07 | cait: I want to test downloading for ctaloging | |
| 22:07 | cataloging | |
| 22:08 | I guess I'm filling out the SRU form wrong somehow. | |
| 22:08 | cait | can you share how you set it up? |
| 22:08 | it's a bit tricky | |
| 22:08 | i still have to really read the specs you sent too :( | |
| 22:08 | * cait | needs more time in a day |
| 22:11 | andreashm | sure |
| 22:11 | cait: who doesn't? :) | |
| 22:15 | pastebot | "andreashm" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "SRU" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/119 |
| 22:16 | andreashm | not sure that's readable. I could take a screenshot instead. |
| 22:19 | cait | drojf: still around? |
| 22:19 | drojf | yes |
| 22:19 | cait | do you have the dnb sru at hand to compare maybe? |
| 22:19 | drojf | looking for my sru notes |
| 22:19 | heh | |
| 22:19 | cait | yeah mine are at work :) |
| 22:20 | drojf | i have a blogpost that i kind of forgot to ever post about it. lol |
| 22:20 | cait | andreashm: you might be missing something in the sru options thing |
| 22:20 | can you share the page with the data you are tying to use too? | |
| 22:22 | andreashm | I have just tried searching for author: strindberg |
| 22:23 | if anyone has an actual SRU server setup that works, I'd like to see it yeah. =) | |
| 22:23 | but right now I think its time for bed. | |
| 22:23 | can look at it again tomorrow. | |
| 22:23 | cait | try the keyword search first |
| 22:23 | andreashm | might help when people are at work |
| 22:24 | cait | andreashm: i promised viktor notes about the dnb one - can send to you as wlel |
| 22:24 | hopefully tomorrow... but no promises | |
| 22:24 | andreashm | cait: thanks, that would be great |
| 22:24 | hehe | |
| 22:24 | nope, nothing with keywords. | |
| 22:25 | cait | hm i remember i got one working for another union catalog here |
| 22:25 | i will check what i have | |
| 22:25 | andreashm | thanks a bunch |
| 22:27 | drojf | works for me |
| 22:27 | cait | drojf might have better notes for the dnb one tho :) |
| 22:27 | andreashm: check for additional spaces | |
| 22:27 | drojf | i have the kb one running |
| 22:27 | andreashm | drojf: what does? |
| 22:27 | cait | at the end of url and such |
| 22:27 | * wnickc | waves |
| 22:27 | * cait | had that break things |
| 22:27 | cait | hi wnickc |
| 22:28 | wnickc | hi cait |
| 22:28 | andreashm | drojf: oh really? |
| 22:28 | wahanui | really is more trouble than she's worth. |
| 22:28 | cait | drojf+ |
| 22:28 | drojf | will upload a screenshot, mom |
| 22:28 | cait | drojf++ even |
| 22:28 | andreashm | drojf++ |
| 22:30 | cait | btw... i need a sign off for 14246 as a dependency for things in my queue... |
| 22:30 | (wonder how they got there without that patch... but...) | |
| 22:30 | bug 14246 | |
| 22:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14246 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, xarragon, Needs Signoff , Add borrowernumber to koha_news |
| 22:31 | drojf | would have been faster to type it. lol |
| 22:32 | cait | oh |
| 22:32 | sru/libris in database | |
| 22:33 | and the get | |
| 22:33 | andreashm | hehe |
| 22:33 | thanks a lot drojf!! | |
| 22:34 | cait | drojf: i use Shutter for screenshots and it can directly upload via ftp and let's you directly paste the url - it's really helpful |
| 22:35 | andreashm | I had sru/libris in database for a while, and tried sru=get, but I think the main thing was that I used http://api.libris.kb.se/sru/libris as hostname and not libris.kb.se |
| 22:35 | cait | drojf++ again :) |
| 22:36 | andreashm | cait: that's a useful tip |
| 22:36 | cait++ | |
| 22:36 | drojf++ | |
| 22:36 | cait | link works :) |
| 22:36 | drojf | andreashm: you can find that in the info of the server |
| 22:36 | cait | i will point Viktor there instead of using my own confusing notes :) |
| 22:36 | drojf | andreashm: api.libris.kb.se/sru/libris shows the server info |
| 22:37 | andreashm | drojf: yeah, I saw that, but went with the name/link from KB:s webiste instead. stupid me. =) |
| 22:37 | drojf | but i thoink the other works too |
| 22:37 | i only tried in yaz client, it works there | |
| 22:37 | andreashm | alright, I'm of to bed. thanks again! |
| 22:37 | cait | wow |
| 22:37 | drojf | but sru is always weird. it took me ages to get the dnb working |
| 22:37 | cait | long post! |
| 22:38 | drojf | cait: i wrote that months ago and forgot |
| 22:38 | and thought we should probably fix the bug with the ~ | |
| 22:38 | ;) | |
| 22:38 | cait | tops the notes i had form the library :) |
| 22:38 | did you file it? :P | |
| 22:39 | drojf | no, i wanted to look into it and then 100 other things happened :D |
| 22:39 | cait | if you get bored... see if 10612 does delete borrowers with checkouts correctly for you? |
| 22:39 | pianohacker | bug 10612 |
| 22:39 | wahanui | hmmm... bug 10612 is weird |
| 22:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10612 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Add ability to delete patrons with batch patron deletion tool |
| 22:40 | pianohacker | cait: is that correctly deletes or correctly does not delete? |
| 22:40 | cait | i had a lot of bad and strange things happen on my database testing htis |
| 22:40 | like... it said it deleted but then i had an entry for the same patron in borrowers and deletedborrowers | |
| 22:40 | ... which is... wel | |
| 22:40 | l | |
| 22:40 | pianohacker | that's a thing, yeah |
| 22:40 | cait | jonathan says it works for him |
| 22:40 | so we have a pat | |
| 22:41 | hm draw? | |
| 22:41 | whatever | |
| 22:41 | wahanui | and ever, amen. |
| 22:41 | eythian | that's what transactions are for |
| 22:41 | do the move in a transaction and it either totally succeeds or totally fails | |
| 22:41 | no half-way state | |
| 22:42 | it's the whole point of the A in ACID | |
| 22:43 | pianohacker | one question I've always had about designing APIs around that; do you shove the commit logic in the controllers? You can't put it in the model, really, as there may be multiple model calls per logical operation |
| 22:48 | eythian | well |
| 22:48 | that's a tricky problem | |
| 22:48 | if it really needs to be atomic, I think you're better doing it in one call. | |
| 22:48 | either that or have a structure that lets you wrap multiple calls in a transaction. | |
| 22:48 | passing in a list of subs or something | |
| 22:49 | pianohacker | yeah, that's where the controller/model divide gets... weird |
| 22:49 | there's stuff that belongs in the gaps between them | |
| 22:49 | eythian | but, if the call to the model is "delete user", then the model should know to "start transaction, write user to deleted_users, delete user from users, commit transaction" |
| 22:49 | because that's what deleting a user really is | |
| 22:50 | but that's not always possible | |
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| 22:51 | pianohacker | but then you get into issues like, say, merging borrowers |
| 22:52 | where the whole higher level operation of "transfer history/checkouts/etc., delete original" needs to be one transaction | |
| 22:52 | eythian | yep |
| 22:52 | pianohacker | it's one of those problems that you always feel should have been solved 10 years ago but any google search leads to "have fun writing it yourself!" |
| 22:53 | eythian | there's probably a design pattern for it :) |
| 22:53 | pianohacker | is this just lowercase design pattern or design pattern with a capital Java? |
| 22:53 | eythian | probably both, but I was thinking of the latter |
| 22:54 | actually, your request managing system could create a transaction for the request | |
| 22:54 | so the whole thing succeeds or fails | |
| 22:54 | it's basically pushing the problem outwards | |
| 22:55 | though, there probably are situations where a failure is OK because you check for it and you don't want to abort the whole transaction | |
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| 22:55 | eythian | I dunno, ask papa, I bet he knows |
| 22:56 | drojf | good night #koha |
| 22:56 | eythian | hi drojf |
| 22:56 | bye drojf | |
| 22:56 | drojf | hibye eythian |
| 22:56 | eythian | see, one transaction! |
| 22:57 | pianohacker | hahahaha |
| 22:58 | I dunno, drojf's response seemed to have autocommit on... | |
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| 23:01 | eythian | https://twitter.com/iamdevlope[…]56798423878799360 |
| 23:02 | wizzyrea | teehee |
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| 23:20 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 23:21 | eythian++ # bug 14884 | |
| 23:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14884 critical, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , [3.20.X] Test failure from Bug 14470 |
| 23:22 | mtompset | Joubu++ # bug 14884 |
| 23:34 | papa | sorry, what was the question? |
| 23:34 | mtompset | are you asking me? :) |
| 23:34 | I was wondering about conflict markers ages back, eythian and Joubu fixed it. | |
| 23:35 | eythian | http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]5-10-21#i_1744878 <-- papa, starting here |
| 23:36 | pianohacker | Holy crap! |
| 23:36 | * wahanui | blesses crap |
| 23:36 | pianohacker | AaaaaaaaaaaaA! |
| 23:36 | bug 11559 | |
| 23:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Professional cataloger's interface |
| 23:36 | pianohacker | woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooha! |
| 23:36 | eythian | signed off?! |
| 23:36 | wahanui | i heard signed off was the queue the QA team should watch |
| 23:36 | eythian | surely that's an accident! |
| 23:36 | pianohacker | nope! :D |
| 23:36 | * pianohacker | dances on the ceiling |
| 23:36 | eythian | oh great, now we have to clean the footprints off the ceiling |
| 23:37 | also, someone turn the gravity back on | |
| 23:37 | pianohacker | *thump* ow! |
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| 23:38 | wnickc | mtompsett are you testing 14246? |
| 23:38 | mtompset:^^ | |
| 23:39 | mtompset | Yes, working on it. |
| 23:39 | wnickc | cause I was too, so I'll let you sign off |
| 23:39 | it works according to me :-) | |
| 23:39 | mtompset | Multiple sign offs is good. |
| 23:40 | wnickc | fair point |
| 23:40 | papa | well, without reading carefully I can tell you what I do most of the times: I do two layers - an atomic one, and then (controller) calls transaction wrapper with a sub that does atomic calls |
| 23:40 | mtompset | https://youtu.be/OdQDXs75Ulo |
| 23:40 | papa | but that's just my pref |
| 23:40 | mtompset | (Dancing on the ceiling by Lionel Richie) |
| 23:41 | pianohacker | I knew I was referencing something |
| 23:44 | wnickc | pianohacker: you do realize if it gets in you are going to be simultaneously praised and attacked by catalogers? |
| 23:45 | pianohacker | wnickc: oh, trust me, I know |
| 23:45 | wnickc | with DEMANDS for new features! and workflows you can't comprehend |
| 23:45 | pianohacker | I'm asking for qa testing from a group of people the library industry calls detail oriented |
| 23:46 | catalogers++ ;) | |
| 23:46 | wnickc | pianohacker++ rancor++ |
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| 23:59 | pianohacker | bye all |
| 23:59 | wnickc++ |
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