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| 00:37 | mtompset | Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha. |
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| 02:58 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 02:58 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (2:30 PM NZST on August 20, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 03:04 | dcook | @wunder syd |
| 03:04 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 19.0°C (12:30 PM AEST on August 20, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Falling). |
| 03:04 | dcook | Damn. Why am I inside... |
| 03:04 | It's actually quite nice looking outside.. | |
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| 03:59 | BobB_ | hey dcook: |
| 03:59 | http://www.bom.gov.au/nsw/forecasts/sydney.shtml | |
| 03:59 | time to start worrying about summer :) | |
| 04:01 | dcook | Worrying? |
| 04:01 | * dcook | likes summer :) |
| 04:01 | dcook | My wife is still using a heater, so I'm rather keen for summer to get here if only to lower the electricity bill :p |
| 04:11 | eythian | elasticsearch is a sponsor of OSDC2015. I wonder if that's good or bad for the chances of my talk being accepted :) |
| 04:12 | dcook | hehe |
| 04:13 | I think I might end up coming out just as an attendee | |
| 04:13 | Plenty of time left for figuring that out I suppose | |
| 04:14 | BobB_ | dcook my suggestion was if its going to be 25 in August then it may not be too flash in February, but time will tell :) |
| 04:16 | dcook | BobB_: But August is summer and Frebruary is winter! |
| 04:16 | * dcook | will adjust to the southern hemisphere one day perhaps... |
| 04:16 | dcook | :p |
| 04:16 | February* | |
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| 04:21 | wizzyrea | dcook: how long have you been in AU? |
| 04:26 | BobB_ | lol ; check your orientation dcook :) |
| 04:27 | eythian | dcook: why would you want a cold christmas? What a waste of beach time. |
| 04:29 | dcook | wizzyrea: This'll be year 4 :p |
| 04:29 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 04:29 | cold christmas is totally for the birds. | |
| 04:29 | to eat the birds. | |
| 04:29 | dcook | eythian: That's true, although usually Christmas isn't cold back home. |
| 04:29 | wizzyrea | turkeys, mostly. |
| 04:29 | dcook | Snowy - yes |
| 04:30 | wizzyrea | on the beach. |
| 04:30 | dcook | We have a lack of beaches back home though |
| 04:30 | wizzyrea | similar story for kansas. no beach. No mountains. |
| 04:31 | and usually, it's just cold as, with no snow. | |
| 04:31 | dcook | :( |
| 04:31 | Last Christmas was actually quite nice | |
| 04:31 | We hosted and it was just such a nice time | |
| 04:31 | My favourite moment was when my wife, myself, and our friend won Articulate with my wife shouting "cabbage!!!!!" | |
| 04:32 | We didn't hit the beach until January I think.. | |
| 04:52 | BobB_ | the water's not warm until January |
| 04:52 | but then it stays warm till May | |
| 05:17 | * magnuse | waves |
| 05:17 | eythian | you're early, magnuse |
| 05:17 | magnuse | yup |
| 05:17 | dcook | Whoa |
| 05:18 | @wunder boo | |
| 05:18 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (6:50 AM CEST on August 20, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Falling). |
| 05:18 | dcook | Ah 7:18... guess that's not THAT early :p |
| 05:18 | * dcook | still thinks magnuse should go back to bed |
| 05:18 | magnuse | rest of the family is having a bit of a sleep-in, i gotta chip away at the ncip things |
| 05:23 | or rather nncipp | |
| 05:25 | rangi | the code has finally been signed off for production use, so it's fully functional for ILL .. just need to merge/tidy it and keep out regressions now |
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| 05:26 | dcook | rangi++ |
| 05:35 | magnuse | rangi: talking about the ncipserver? |
| 05:35 | rangi | yep |
| 05:36 | magnuse | Dyrcona has done a lot of changes that break things for your koha parts |
| 05:36 | gonna take some work to make it work again | |
| 05:36 | i have done some of it, but you'll need to do lots of testing | |
| 05:38 | rangi | yeah, I probably wont merge the changes in the near future |
| 05:38 | at least not to be used in production | |
| 05:38 | magnuse | ok |
| 05:38 | rangi | took literally years |
| 05:39 | to get it tested and signed off | |
| 05:39 | in no hurry to break it :) | |
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| 05:39 | rangi | but i do plan to merge the changes at some point, and get it working again |
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| 06:09 | magnuse | ncip! ncip! ncip! |
| 06:11 | eythian | stop swearing. |
| 06:12 | magnuse | lulz |
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| 06:23 | * cait | waves |
| 06:24 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
| 06:24 | and Viktor | |
| 06:24 | Viktor | kia ora magnuse and cait |
| 06:25 | cait | hi Viktor and magnuse and everyone |
| 06:25 | eythian | hi cait |
| 06:26 | cait | hi eythian |
| 06:27 | liw | @wunder Heidelberg |
| 06:27 | huginn | liw: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 06:27 | magnuse | kia ora liw |
| 06:27 | liw | magnuse, hi there |
| 06:27 | magnuse | @wunder Heidelberg, germany |
| 06:27 | huginn | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
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| 06:28 | liw | eythian, btw, Debconf16 is in South Africa, about July or August 2016; just so you know, if you want to participate :) |
| 06:28 | eythian | @wunder EDFM |
| 06:28 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Mannheim, Germany is 17.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on August 20, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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| 06:28 | eythian | hmm, close |
| 06:29 | liw: I had not given that any thought, interesting idea though. | |
| 06:32 | liw | eythian, I'm at Deconf15 myself right now, so the thought is close to me |
| 06:32 | magnuse | huh, why would i suddenly be getting lots of "DBD::mysql::st execute failed: MySQL server has gone away at /home/magnus/kohaclone/C4/Biblio.pm line 2159"? this is using ncipserver, while koha on the same server has no problems |
| 06:33 | eythian | magnuse: ah, that's a known thing |
| 06:33 | we don't handle persistant connections well | |
| 06:34 | magnuse | restarting ncipserver seems to have fixed it (for now?) |
| 06:34 | eythian | yeah, for now |
| 06:35 | so, the connection is timing out or something, but that's not being realised. | |
| 06:35 | we need a real connection pooling thing. | |
| 06:35 | magnuse | but this was ncipserver failing, not koha |
| 06:35 | so not a big worry for koha this time, methinks | |
| 06:36 | eythian | it's a problem for koha under plack |
| 06:37 | cait | think there are soem bugs right now about the connections |
| 06:38 | not sure any of them would fix, but probably good if it had more eyes on it :) | |
| 06:38 | dcook | eythian: I've wondered about persistent database connections with plack/mod_perl... |
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| 07:01 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 07:01 | Joubu | morning |
| 07:03 | magnuse | hiya marcelr and Joubu |
| 07:03 | marcelr | hey Joubu magnuse |
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| 07:13 | marcelr | Joubu: bug 3333 |
| 07:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3333 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , item status for "not for loan" by item type / item is different |
| 07:15 | Joubu | marcelr: ok, thanks for your reply |
| 07:16 | marcelr: but what does mean "for reference"? | |
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| 07:17 | marcelr | well i would interpret it as you can read it in the library but not take it |
| 07:17 | or something like that | |
| 07:18 | Joubu | in this case, why does it work without your patch? |
| 07:18 | marcelr | the xslt is better than non-xslt, i guess |
| 07:18 | they have gone their own way in time.. | |
| 07:18 | we should dismiss the non-xslt | |
| 07:19 | it was discussed before | |
| 07:19 | Joubu | yep but, I did not find where the flag "reference" was set |
| 07:19 | select="key('item-by-status', 'reference') | |
| 07:20 | Anyway, I will retest the patch today | |
| 07:20 | marcelr | ok, will have a look again for reference |
| 07:24 | Joubu: $status = "reference"; see XSLT.pm sub buildKohaItemsNamespace (why did I forget that :) | |
| 07:25 | Joubu | so obvious... |
| 07:26 | should we remove the itemtype check from this sub? | |
| 07:26 | hum no, we could introduce a side-effect | |
| 07:26 | marcelr | i think no |
| 07:28 | Joubu: why is patch 13324 still holding? anything particular? | |
| 07:28 | bug 13324 | |
| 07:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13324 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , The fund values must be based on tax included values |
| 07:28 | marcelr | oh a depends |
| 07:28 | bug 13321 | |
| 07:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13321 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Tax and prices calculation need to be fixed |
| 07:29 | Joubu | yep, on the "big one" |
| 07:29 | should be NQA | |
| 07:34 | kivilahtio | Joubu: do you remember has there been any discussion about having a database table which keeps track of which DB updates have been triggered for the database? |
| 07:35 | Joubu: now we have atomicupdate which is great, but I am still missing the knowledge on when and if a specific bug upgrade has been done | |
| 07:35 | marcelr | kivilahtio: there has been a lot of discussion |
| 07:36 | and a lot of patches.. | |
| 07:36 | kivilahtio | marcelr: because to maintain our own fork, we need to be able to know which of the 200+ patches we have in production have been upgraded |
| 07:36 | marcelr | kivilahtio: a production machine does not have atomic updates |
| 07:36 | Joubu | kivilahtio: you don't want to know |
| 07:36 | marcelr | the RM moves them to updatedatabase |
| 07:36 | kivilahtio | marcelr: a preproduction machine has :) |
| 07:37 | marcelr | ok |
| 07:37 | Joubu | (bug 7167) |
| 07:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED WONTFIX, updatedatabase improvements |
| 07:37 | marcelr | kivilahtio: the most simple design has been implemented; i once wrote something additional too that did not make it |
| 07:37 | kivilahtio | marcelr: Joubu: I am sorry for that |
| 07:38 | marcelr | if a db rev can be executed more than once without blowing up Koha, there is no problem :) |
| 07:39 | just ignoring warnings .. | |
| 07:39 | kivilahtio | marcelr: it can but the problem is that repeatedly running updatedatabase.pl causes a heeluva lot of unnecessary warnings |
| 07:39 | marcelr | so true |
| 07:39 | kivilahtio | marcelr: also due to the nature of how we deal with DBIx we cannot use DBIx introspection features before we have done the DB modifications |
| 07:39 | I have had a LOT of trouble with DBIx | |
| 07:39 | a LOT | |
| 07:39 | marcelr | DBIx is another pain dossier |
| 07:40 | kivilahtio | I feel like development times are down to 1/4 because of it |
| 07:40 | marcelr | we only implemented it a little bit.. |
| 07:40 | kivilahtio | especially since the DB structure of Koha in Serials doesn't have strinf foreign relations and DBIx needs them |
| 07:40 | marcelr | we are doing half work and run after something else again.. |
| 07:41 | kivilahtio | marcelr: I was thinking of making Koha::Object compatible from DBI, thus alleviating this pain a lot |
| 07:41 | marcelr: yes | |
| 07:41 | marcelr: DBIx and Koha::Object have very strong issues | |
| 07:41 | marcelr | sounds good |
| 07:42 | kivilahtio | marcelr: Especially when it comes to joins |
| 07:42 | marcelr: They are really hacky | |
| 07:42 | marcelr | yeah |
| 07:42 | Joubu | Are you always rambling? |
| 07:42 | kivilahtio | marcelr: for some reason I cannot get deep join going through a chain of subscription => {serial => { serialitems => 'items'}} |
| 07:42 | to work | |
| 07:43 | Joubu: I will give you a DBIx challenge :) | |
| 07:43 | one moment | |
| 07:43 | Joubu | kivilahtio: I don't want it |
| 07:43 | The first thing to do is to rewrite dirty parts | |
| 07:43 | if you start with adding complexity on top of the existing dirt, it cannot work | |
| 07:44 | kivilahtio | Joubu: well maybe the patterns that are about to be included to master should actually be used to implement something moderately complex first? |
| 07:46 | Joubu | I just meant that the serial/subscription module is a mess, and also the table structures |
| 07:46 | so it sounds normal to have issue if you try complex stuffs with DBIC in this area :) | |
| 07:47 | s/issue/issues/ ;) | |
| 07:47 | kivilahtio | Joubu: I asked few days ago from our RM that would he sign off my rewrite of the serials module :) |
| 07:47 | he said no | |
| 07:47 | :) | |
| 07:47 | but I don't have to do do that anyway | |
| 07:47 | Joubu | bug#? |
| 07:48 | marcelr | kivilahtio: the RM will probably not sign off on more patches too; he is last in the queue |
| 07:48 | Joubu | ok you didn't write it yet |
| 07:49 | marcelr: I think kivilahtio is just trying to find testers :) It seems they are quite busy atm... | |
| 07:49 | marcelr | there is not much signoff activity in august.. |
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| 07:50 | kivilahtio | marcelr: :) |
| 07:50 | Joubu: SELECT serialseq, notforloan, onloan FROM subscription su LEFT JOIN serial s ON su.subscriptionid = s.subscriptionid LEFT JOIN serialitems si ON si.serialid = s.serialid LEFT JOIN items i ON i.itemnumber = si.itemnumber WHERE su.branchcode = 'CPL' AND su.biblionumber = 2123 ORDER BY serialseq DESC LIMIT 5; | |
| 07:50 | marcelr | Joubu: bug 11759 does not apply but if i read the report, you will not spend more time on it |
| 07:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11759 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Batch checkout |
| 07:51 | Joubu | will try |
| 07:51 | marcelr: will try :) | |
| 07:52 | marcelr: I would say it depends on your interest in the patch, is it to switch to PQA/FQA or does not apply? | |
| 07:52 | or let it to SO if I rebase it | |
| 07:53 | marcelr | if it does not apply, i do not start QA |
| 07:53 | i did not look further | |
| 07:53 | kivilahtio | marcelr: do you remember the bugnumber of your atomicupdate improvement? |
| 07:53 | marcelr | search for sandbox |
| 07:53 | and look at obsolete patches | |
| 07:53 | kivilahtio | :) |
| 07:54 | marcelr | it was pushed in a simplified way |
| 07:54 | but bug 7167 even had a table | |
| 07:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED WONTFIX, updatedatabase improvements |
| 07:54 | kivilahtio | marcelr: I was planning to have a table which would automatically infer the bug number/ID from the filename and the output of the upgrade script |
| 07:55 | so you dont need a YAML to map what needs doing | |
| 07:55 | marcelr | kivilahtio: there is always room for improvements |
| 07:55 | kivilahtio | marcelr: that should be a rapid development |
| 07:56 | marcelr | just open up a new report :) |
| 07:56 | kivilahtio | I like your style :) |
| 07:57 | marcelr | kivilahtio: look at bug 13068 in obsolete patches |
| 07:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , New feature for DB update and sandbox |
| 07:57 | kivilahtio | after that I implement a backwards compatibility layer for Koha::Object, totally pulling the carpet from the intent of it ;) |
| 07:58 | marcelr | like this one: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=32300 |
| 07:58 | could you also add PostgreSQL support kivilahtio LOL | |
| 07:59 | kivilahtio | :) |
| 07:59 | marcelr: do you need it? | |
| 07:59 | marcelr | no it is just such a topic.. |
| 07:59 | kivilahtio | Hmm, looking at Bug 13893, the atomicupdates are always executed when updatedatabase.pl is ran? |
| 07:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13893 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add ability to execute perl scripts in atomicupdates |
| 07:59 | kivilahtio | marcelr: you should know since you was part of it |
| 08:00 | marcelr | yes my variant did not do that see bug 13068 |
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| 08:00 | marcelr | i also wanted to prevent rerunning it when backporting.. |
| 08:02 | kivilahtio | marcelr: that is against the original design idea of atomicupdate |
| 08:02 | marcelr | well it was obsoleted.. |
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| 08:05 | kivilahtio | marcelr: the original design idea was obsoleted? |
| 08:05 | marcelr: or your bug was obsoleted? | |
| 08:05 | marcelr | no my patch |
| 08:06 | original_design_ideas++ | |
| 08:06 | kivilahtio | marcelr: I wonder why the atomicupdate dile extension needs to be .perl |
| 08:06 | marcelr | i favor .pl too |
| 08:07 | kivilahtio | I guess it makes it easier to distinguish them with find and grep, but then why .sql is not .sqlang for ex |
| 08:07 | marcelr | it is just perl code so pl would be fine |
| 08:07 | kivilahtio | marcelr: that one subroutine dealing with atomicupdates has so many issues in it. I mean how many issues can you have in 10 lines of code :) |
| 08:07 | marcelr | but .perl should be some perl snippet |
| 08:08 | kivilahtio | marcelr: I think the idea was that they are perl snippets |
| 08:09 | marcelr | Joubu: bug 11625 with a counter patch ;) |
| 08:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11625 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Default to logged in library for circ rules and notices & slips |
| 08:09 | marcelr | QAing can be so nice |
| 08:10 | This script is a house of cards | |
| 08:12 | kivilahtio | marcelr: do you like failing QA a lot? |
| 08:12 | Joubu | yes, that's why I don't like the first patchset, too complex to be sure no regression will be introduced |
| 08:12 | kivilahtio | Joubu: how about writing regression tests? |
| 08:13 | cait | marcelr++ thx for the library tour :) |
| 08:13 | Joubu | kivilahtio: it's a perl script, we should rewrite completely the script |
| 08:13 | kivilahtio | Joubu: we have plenty of rewrite bugs lying around which rewrite this and that, none has regression tests |
| 08:13 | Joubu | kivilahtio: ? which ones? |
| 08:13 | all the ones I write have tests | |
| 08:13 | kivilahtio | Joubu: really?!?! |
| 08:14 | Joubu | I think so :) |
| 08:15 | kivilahtio | Joubu: Like... Selenium... tests? |
| 08:15 | Joubu | no |
| 08:15 | I have tried, nobody cares | |
| 08:15 | I stopped | |
| 08:15 | kivilahtio | well we just started |
| 08:16 | Joubu: And have endured a lot to build the infrastructure to make it much much more easier | |
| 08:16 | Bug 14536 | |
| 08:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14536 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , PageObject-pattern base implementation |
| 08:17 | Joubu | kivilahtio: but really, I don't want to write selenium test for old scripts, they have to be rewrite, with tests |
| 08:17 | kivilahtio | Joubu: they work well in most cases. Sometimes you need to add some id-attributes to target specific action elements |
| 08:17 | also PageObject-Pattern changes the way you think of Selenium tests. If you are not familiar with it I recommend you read about it | |
| 08:18 | The way the community started to write Selenium tests was rather crude | |
| 08:18 | and very prone to gui changes breaking everything everywhere | |
| 08:18 | Joubu | Joonas around? |
| 08:18 | kivilahtio | this pattern fixes it |
| 08:19 | atleast to the degree humanly possible :) | |
| 08:19 | Joubu | kivilahtio: "Joonas Kylmälä" is a Finnish name? |
| 08:19 | kivilahtio | Joubu: yes |
| 08:20 | Joubu: his nick is putti | |
| 08:20 | Joubu | Is he one of your collegue? |
| 08:20 | kivilahtio | he is sitting right next to me |
| 08:20 | why? | |
| 08:20 | Joubu | cool :) |
| 08:20 | putti | what about me |
| 08:20 | Joubu | putti: Hello! |
| 08:20 | putti: you forgot to change the bug status for bug 14696 | |
| 08:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14696 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , useless use of String::Random in catalogue/search.pl |
| 08:20 | Joubu | and thanks for your signoffs btw ;) |
| 08:21 | kivilahtio | putti: they are much appreciated |
| 08:21 | putti | Joubu, I wasn't sure what's the deal with when to change the status: after one or two sign-offs. |
| 08:22 | Joubu | putti: the rule is one |
| 08:22 | especially when it's for small patches | |
| 08:22 | putti | alright |
| 08:22 | Joubu | can be 2 if it's a new big ft/enh |
| 08:24 | marcelr | putti++ |
| 08:24 | putti | marcelr, ++? |
| 08:26 | marcelr | putti: your balance increased with one |
| 08:26 | putti | wow ! |
| 08:26 | marcelr | :) |
| 08:26 | Joubu | @karma putti |
| 08:26 | huginn | Joubu: Karma for "putti" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
| 08:26 | Joubu | putti++ :) |
| 08:26 | marcelr | even better |
| 08:26 | wahanui | even better is, like, what oleonard said just after that |
| 08:31 | marcelr | @later khall please look at bug 11625 |
| 08:31 | huginn | marcelr: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 08:32 | marcelr | @later tell khall please look at bug 11625 |
| 08:32 | huginn | marcelr: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:33 | marcelr | better |
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| 08:40 | * andreashm | waves |
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| 09:25 | marcelr | thx Joubu++ # 3333 |
| 09:34 | Joubu | Jul: did you plan to update the hea website with the new commits? |
| 09:35 | Jul | Joubu, We try it yesterday but there is some bugs to correct before ;) |
| 09:36 | Joubu | Jul: ok, let us know when it's done! |
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| 11:09 | Joubu | @later tell rangi Do you think it is easy to add the signoffer info on a bug report? It would be the last NSO=>SO change which is not the assignee. |
| 11:09 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:55 | marcelr | If the user is sophisticated enough to specify an index, turn off field weighting, stemming, and stopword handling |
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| 12:40 | marcelr | Joubu around |
| 12:41 | Joubu | marcelr: yep |
| 12:41 | marcelr | batch checkouts |
| 12:41 | if i am adding staff as a category | |
| 12:41 | i do not get the right form | |
| 12:41 | still normal checkout | |
| 12:42 | Joubu | it should be a category type |
| 12:42 | marcelr | ok |
| 12:42 | Joubu | the ones defined in admin/categories.pl |
| 12:42 | marcelr | have to look better :) |
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| 12:47 | tcohen | morning! |
| 12:47 | marcelr | hola tcohen |
| 12:48 | tcohen | Hoi marcelr |
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| 12:54 | marcelr | Joubu: the categorycode S was fine; I just some looked over the Batch tab at the left side |
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| 12:57 | Joubu | marcelr: yes sorry, it's the category code, the one defined in admin/cat :) |
| 12:57 | marcelr | just did not see the tab |
| 12:58 | Joubu | actually S is not a good choice, there is a categorycode S and a category_type S |
| 12:58 | marcelr | just testing |
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| 13:34 | putti | Has anyone idea of what kind of files we can stage here: cgi-bin/koha/tools/stage-marc-import.pl |
| 13:35 | Joubu | a marc records file |
| 13:36 | can be get using the export button on biblio detail page | |
| 13:36 | putti | but there is 10 different types of MARC files. |
| 13:36 | Joubu | or using the export tool tools/export.pl |
| 13:36 | save as MARC utf8 should be fine | |
| 13:36 | putti | utf-8, not utf-8 standard? |
| 13:37 | Joubu | not sure to know the difference... |
| 13:37 | putti | with utf-8 it worked good, but with the standard everything died, if I remember right.. |
| 13:38 | I think we should change the script to only accept the right type of MARC file. Joubu, do you agree? | |
| 13:38 | Joubu | "everything died" needs to be defined :) |
| 13:38 | xarragon | Nuked from orbit? |
| 13:39 | putti | the fields values didn't come with the staging |
| 13:40 | ah, hard to explain because I don't even know what I'm trying to fix here :D | |
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| 13:46 | putti | Please, someone, tell me which type(s) of files are allowed to stage in stage-marc-import.pl script. I tried to look every manual entry but they just say "import a MARC file". |
| 13:48 | marcelr | Joubu: if bug 14544 gets signed, i will be interested in looking further.. |
| 13:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the list related code to Koha::Virtualshelves |
| 13:51 | Joubu | thanks marcelr! |
| 13:56 | putti: both worked for me | |
| 13:56 | But the .marcstd file does not contain the item info | |
| 13:57 | putti | Ok. That's why there was problem with the .marcstd |
| 13:57 | Joubu | putti: note the records are certainly imported using the default framework |
| 13:58 | and thanks again marcelr for the batch checkout :) | |
| 13:59 | putti | stage-marc-import.pl works fine, but for example, manage-marc-import.pl, doesn't know what type of file it's handling and it causes anomalies. |
| 14:00 | Either manage-marc-import.pl need to be fixed to handle all the different types of MARC or stage-marc-import.pl to accept only one type of MARC | |
| 14:00 | Joubu | pianohacker: around? |
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| 14:05 | grharry | Hello There! I am now on Debian Jessie and Koha 3.20.02! My LOGS are Full of the "CGI:error" warning ... "CGI::param called in list context from package main line 448, this can lead to vulnerabilities." !!! :P Is there a way to get rid of this ?? |
| 14:06 | tcohen | grharry: nope |
| 14:07 | Joubu | which scripts? |
| 14:07 | see bug 14121 | |
| 14:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14121 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Silence warnings t/db_dependent/Auth_with_cas.t |
| 14:12 | grharry | :-/ |
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| 15:02 | xarragon | Is there an easy way to test overdue messages? |
| 15:03 | Ah, wait maybe I can set a due date that has passed when loading? | |
| 15:03 | Last time I just changed it with mysql. | |
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| 15:05 | Joubu | xarragon: set a due date should work |
| 15:06 | xarragon | Yeah it just needed a confirmation. |
| 15:08 | I tried to get koa to email me by running the overdue_notice.pl script but so far no luck | |
| 15:08 | Not sure if it accepts local mail | |
| 15:10 | pianohacker | Joubu: I am now :) |
| 15:10 | Joubu | pianohacker: I was waiting for an answer on a bug, don't remember which one... |
| 15:11 | ha, maybe the column stuff on the items table | |
| 15:12 | pianohacker | oh, right, lemme respond to that |
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| 15:19 | pianohacker | Joubu: there you go. |
| 15:20 | Joubu | thx |
| 15:22 | pianohacker: for instance stocknumber is not mapped by default, but can be mapped | |
| 15:23 | pianohacker | hrm, decent point. |
| 15:24 | Joubu: based on my patch, and your work with the datatables stuff, even if I throw in all those columns it will only show the ones that are actually visible in the "show/hide columns" menu, and in the correct order, right? | |
| 15:26 | Joubu | I think so, yes |
| 15:26 | that's the point, I think it's better to show all columns | |
| 15:26 | pianohacker | agreed |
| 15:27 | Joubu | and display them either the order on admin/koha2marclinks.pl either the DB order |
| 15:27 | DB order ie. kohastructure.sql | |
| 15:27 | pianohacker | yeah, to be consistent with something |
| 15:28 | Joubu: all right, have that on my todo list. | |
| 15:29 | going dark for the day, bye all! | |
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| 16:29 | Joubu | ++ |
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| 16:51 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14181: MARC21 773 -- Display when ind1 = 0 or blank <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]64b810b4038e6d70e> / Bug 14484: warns when changing patron pw <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8c157719dcf33a040> / Bug 14646: Koha::RecordProcessor should accept more than one filter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh |
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| 19:41 | Topic for #koha is now RULE #1 DONT BE NEWBS, LOCK YOUR TOPIC lmao SUCKERS | |
| 19:41 | DKD | :) |
| 19:41 | CHEERS | |
| 19:41 | WINDOWS RULES | |
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| 19:44 | Topic for #koha is now #koha Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org | Code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
| 19:46 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org | Code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
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| 19:52 | Dyrcona | What a lamer. |
| 19:53 | liw | it hit two other channels I'm on; lamer seems right |
| 19:55 | wnickc | but he was totally 733t |
| 19:56 | liw | very leet. such skillz. much hacker. |
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| 20:02 | Dyrcona | he |
| 20:02 | heh | |
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| 20:40 | rangi | @later tell joubu not sure what you mean, add the info where? |
| 20:40 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:45 | * magnus_afk | waves at rangi then falls asleep |
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| 21:50 | Francesca | Hello |
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| 21:51 | Francesca | rangi are you around? |
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| 21:58 | Francesca | Hey rangi just letting you know I might not get in today |
| 21:59 | my mac has crashed and won't boot up so I'm going to have it looked at. | |
| 21:59 | rangi | ahh bummer |
| 21:59 | im in a training thingy all day anyway | |
| 22:01 | Francesca | ok. Theres a chance I might get in late afternoon but thats only if we can get the computer running again |
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| 23:39 | * dac | wonders what Debian will do when they run out of Toy Story characters... |
| 23:42 | wizzyrea | on to Nemo! |
| 23:42 | Debian Nemo has a nice ring to it. | |
| 23:42 | Debian Dory. | |
| 23:42 | Debian Marlin. | |
| 23:42 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:42 | I like | |
| 23:42 | * wizzyrea | plays spot the parent |
| 23:43 | dcook | :P |
| 23:43 | bag | HA - ginny will love Nemo |
| 23:43 | dcook | I've never actually seen Finding Nemo... it's like the one kids movie I haven't seen |
| 23:45 | bag | it’s fun - like all of them |
| 23:45 | the turtles are the best part IMO | |
| 23:45 | wizzyrea | it is fun |
| 23:45 | It's also not super sonically dense | |
| 23:45 | bag | they are sort of like hippy stoners |
| 23:45 | wizzyrea | so it doesn't drive you insane watching it over and over |
| 23:46 | wall-e is good for that too | |
| 23:46 | actually wall-e would make more sense for debian releases | |
| 23:46 | debian eve - that sounds nice. | |
| 23:46 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:46 | bag | that would be really cool |
| 23:47 | but they’d have to change the start up noise for wall-e | |
| 23:47 | wizzyrea | they hyphenated names are potentially problematic :P |
| 23:47 | so scratch that :) | |
| 23:47 | bag | hmm I’m flying in the morning - I think I will download that movie for the plane - thanks wizzyrea |
| 23:47 | wizzyrea | wall-e is awesome. |
| 23:47 | bag | totally |
| 23:48 | trea’s back has been hurting the last week or so - he’s had to sit a few games :( | |
| 23:48 | get better buddy | |
| 23:48 | wizzyrea | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hscu7cc1_2Y |
| 23:48 | ^ that's the end credits of wall-e, for those of you uninitiated | |
| 23:48 | possibly the best end credits ever. | |
| 23:49 | it's a whole movie in itself. | |
| 23:50 | dcook | Mmm I do love the end credits |
| 23:50 | bag | bbias |
| 23:50 | dcook | I think I watched that on my old netbook before it got stolen.. |
| 23:50 | I remember the end credits were a bit jerky, so I was trying to find a way of making VLC run better on the low end hardware.. | |
| 23:51 | Fortunately someone stole the computer and that led to me buying a better one that has no problem with video now :D | |
| 23:53 | bag | sorry to hear about the netbook - some people man… why do that? |
| 23:53 | doesn’t make sense to me | |
| 23:53 | * dcook | shrugs |
| 23:53 | dcook | I can think of a few reasons, but it does suck :/ |
| 23:54 | bag | pros and cons though :) |
| 23:54 | dcook | Felt a little bit bad that the stuff they stole wasn't worth much, so sort of a waste of their time |
| 23:54 | Of course, they absolutely trashed the place, so hard to feel too bad for them :p | |
| 23:54 | bag | pros and cons |
| 23:54 | HA | |
| 23:54 | dcook | haha |
| 23:54 | Yeah I just got that | |
| 23:55 | bag | heya trea - happy birthday man! |
| 23:55 | * dcook | was waiting for the bday message |
| 23:55 | bag | :D happy birthday to you too dcook |
| 23:55 | wizzyrea | smh |
| 23:55 | dcook | bag: I have been thinking about celebrating my bday at a different time of year |
| 23:55 | wizzyrea | half birthdays :) |
| 23:55 | dcook | wizzyrea: Alas, that's around Christmas :/ |
| 23:56 | wizzyrea | hm, my halfbirthday is close to spud's |
| 23:56 | dcook | Maybe February would be good.. |
| 23:56 | bag | when is your birthday dcook ? |
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