IRC log for #koha, 2015-08-21

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00:05 bag @later tell trea happy birthday!
00:05 huginn bag: The operation succeeded.
00:12 wizzyrea lol bag.
00:12 bag ;)
00:12 bunch of respect for trea from here - so I gotta try and make him smile :D
00:16 wizzyrea daww
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01:24 * collavoce waves at pianohacker
01:25 collavoce guess who?
01:25 wahanui guess is gmcharlt's call then
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01:49 wizzyrea literal guess
01:49 wahanui wizzyrea: guess =is= gmcharlt's call then
01:49 wizzyrea forget guess
01:49 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot guess
01:54 gmcharlt wizzyrea: thanks!
01:58 wizzyrea :)
01:58 figured it didn't need to ping you everytime that happened :P
02:00 * dcook wasn't sure that gmcharlt was even still alive!
02:00 dcook I suppose it's late in Georgia though
02:01 Or really early if it's the other Georgia
02:01 francesca heya
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05:35 * magnus_afk waves
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06:10 * magnuse waves again
06:33 dcook Jeez louise...
06:33 Using PostgreSQL's time zone conversions are sure fun...
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06:42 marcelr hi #koha
06:50 Joubu hello
06:50 wahanui hola, Joubu
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06:57 marcelr hi Joubu
06:59 Joubu @later tell rangi somewhere on /bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi, under QA Contact for instance
06:59 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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07:27 dcook All right. I'm outta here!
07:27 Enjoy your Friday working day while I go and drink beer :D
07:27 cdickinson "working" day
07:36 magnuse working "day"
07:36 marcelr hi magnuse cdickinson
07:41 cdickinson Hiya
07:46 magnuse hiya marcelr
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07:58 bag hola
07:59 marcelr hi bag
07:59 bag hi marcelr
07:59 marcelr kind of early for you?
07:59 or late :)
08:00 bag I have slept a little - so it’s early
08:00 I’ve got some tooth pain - so I took a pain killer and that’s messing with my sleep
08:01 magnuse bag: HI
08:01 marcelr too bad
08:01 bag (it’s 0100)
08:01 magnuse: HI
08:01 wahanui hey, bag
08:01 marcelr 10am here
08:01 magnuse 0100 is neither early nor late, just crazy :-)
08:01 bag but at least I can research my vote for kohacon16
08:02 well magnuse bag is always crazy no matter the time?
08:02 wait reverse that
08:02 bag is always silly no matter the time :D
08:02 that’s better
08:02 magnuse bag?
08:02 wahanui I LIKE BASEBALL
08:03 bag winner winner
08:03 magnuse much better
08:03 ah yes kohacon16
08:03 bag magnuse?
08:03 wahanui rumour has it magnuse is a Norwegian giant
08:03 bag magnuse is THE awesome
08:03 magnuse if i get to do all the traveling i want to do in 2016 there will be a lot of traveling
08:04 bag my october through december is shaping up that way
08:04 I’ve been invited to hong kong again to play baseball in an international tournement :D
08:04 gonna do that - plus other trips ;)
08:05 magnuse yay
08:16 * Joubu send some morphine to bag :D
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08:16 magnuse hiya putti
08:17 putti magnuse, hi
08:35 bag Joubu: THANKS!
08:48 xarragon Hmm.. is there an easy way to test Koha's ability to send email?
08:49 And does Koha support local emails, on the local computer itself, like <username>@<hostname>?
08:49 The web interface refused to accept such an email, so I forced it in via the mysql cli.
08:50 A Perl script could send me emails using perl-something-email-simple
08:50 bag hmm, maybe if you turn off the email server - then you can check to see the notice generation?
08:50 like check the tables for that
08:51 but that is only if you are interested in seeing the notices (not all emails from koha are notices :P )
08:51 xarragon Well I am testing out some patches for a new overdue system
08:54 Joubu xarragon: have a look at 8000
08:54 bug 8000
08:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Needs Signoff , Test mode for notices
08:54 xarragon Joubu: Ah, nice
08:54 Joubu hum, no sorry. it's not what you asked
08:55 xarragon Well still useful. Right now I am just familiarizing myself with Koha's code and use for notices, since I need to actually mess around with this myself sooner or later.
08:57 magnuse a signoff on 8000 might be a good start, then :-)
08:57 putti when can we expect bug 6427 to go to upstream?
08:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Rewrite of the accounts system
08:59 magnuse putti: someone from the qa team needs to qa it and then the rm needs to approve it and push it
09:00 bag heya Joubu how you doing?
09:00 xarragon magnuse: Yeah my idea exactly
09:00 putti okay. How quickly that process usually happens?
09:00 kivilahtio_ He is doing fine, give the man a rest :)
09:00 xarragon Anyways, after RTFM it seems like the script I ran only puts messages in the message queue. And since I have a dev install with no crons running that is why I get no emails
09:00 bag magnuse: I think we’re at the point where khall needs to rework the accounts rewrite into an easy suite/package for testing and acceptance (it’s on his massive list ;) )
09:01 heya kivilahtio_
09:01 wahanui kivilahtio_ is going on a holiday this saturday so...
09:01 kivilahtio_ bag: tell khall to use PAgeObjects!
09:01 Joubu bag: I am getting wet whenever I go outside, otherwise I am fine :)
09:01 magnuse better stay in then:-)
09:01 bag @later tell khall from kivilahtio_: bag: tell khall to use PAgeObjects!
09:01 huginn bag: The operation succeeded.
09:01 kivilahtio_ wow, IRC sure is handy
09:01 bag: how is ES thing going on?
09:02 bag: do you have a document about the scope of the rewrite?
09:02 bag it’s so dry and hot here Joubu …  But I know in a few months I’ll be wet all the time too
09:02 magnuse putti: impossible to say, depends on how long a queue the qa team has, how many issues they discover, how fast the developer is at fixing them etc
09:02 bag kivilahtio_: I think there is something on the wiki - but I think the project ran into scope creep - so kyle is at the point where we need to re-examine
09:02 kivilahtio_ bag: tcohen told me about some great ideas regarding changing the way we present records.
09:02 putti magnuse, alright, thanks! :)
09:03 bag kivilahtio_: ES is done - it’s ready to test
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09:03 kivilahtio_ bag: great news!
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09:03 kivilahtio_ bag: so that is currently just a drop-in replacement for Zebra?
09:03 bag it’s not tweaked correctly - that needs to happen - plus tons and tons of testing
09:03 kivilahtio_ bag: and we need more work to get rid of the horrible configuration clutter?
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09:03 bag kivilahtio_: for z3950 you still need zebra
09:03 kivilahtio_ bag: Ok. I will tell our superlibrarian that she can take a look et ES
09:03 bag: ok
09:03 fridolin hie there
09:04 magnuse bonjour fridolin
09:04 kivilahtio_ fridolin: hido frido!
09:04 bag fridolin!!! HI
09:04 fridolin whaou thanks for this welcoming :D
09:04 bag yes I love the ideas of tcohen for record presentation :)
09:05 * fridolin testing Bug 14544 actually
09:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the list related code to Koha::Virtualshelves
09:05 bag kivilahtio_: I am working with Elastic on trying to get a international day of training going for all the devs in koha…  but it’s outside of anything they have ever done before - so it’s hard to get them to change
09:05 fridolin this code was is soooo strange
09:06 bag I want to pay for free sessions to all the devs - so we all know how to develop against the api’s of elastic search
09:06 so stay on the look out for that
09:06 Joubu fridolin: and so nice now, isn't it? ;)
09:07 bag fridolin: are you a star wars fan too?
09:08 marcelr fridolin++ # 14544
09:08 fridolin Joubu:  nice work indeed, like climbing Mont Everest
09:08 Joubu: i have found a little error , see last note
09:08 bag Yes, a lot
09:09 bag cool - I am too - I’m very excited for december!
09:09 fridolin A great fan I am, but training I must to master the Force
09:10 I try to not look at videos nor texts about it
09:10 bag one speaks, like a yoda you are
09:10 fridolin I like nowing nothing
09:10 :D
09:10 marcelr Joubu: this nice patch set of bug 9809 is now for you to QA ;)
09:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9809 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Get rid of reserveconstraints
09:11 marcelr Joubu: GetReserveFee goes to bug 14702
09:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14702 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Fix GetReserveFee
09:11 marcelr holds are fun
09:11 holds
09:11 where is wahanui when you need him
09:13 bag holds?
09:13 wahanui holds are made to sell more aspirin
09:13 bag HA
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09:13 Joubu marcelr: ok thx!
09:14 kivilahtio_ bag: I already read the MAsterin ElasticSearch from packt.pub :) So I am all hyped up!
09:14 bag right on!
09:14 kivilahtio_ bag: I just really wish we could rewrite the whole search-retrieval-presentation chain
09:15 Joubu https://www.flickr.com/photos/tredok/20737417925
09:15 liddle Hello, all ... I'm looking to connect with someone who has gone by the nick "oliver_". He wrote about MAB2 > MARC conversion back in March, and I am involved with a similar project.
09:15 bag ;)
09:15 @seen oliver
09:15 huginn bag: I have not seen oliver.
09:15 bag @seen oliver_
09:15 huginn bag: oliver_ was last seen in #koha 16 weeks, 6 days, 17 hours, 15 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <oliver_> cait: thanks, as always
09:15 bag nicks?
09:15 liddle Yes, I saw that chat, too.
09:16 bag liddle: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars  see him in there?
09:16 or her ;)
09:17 liddle No, not in that list. Does anyone else have any clues? (I am in the process of exploring the Catmandu set of scripts referred in March.)
09:20 In any case, thank you very much for the help given!
09:24 bumby I'm new to koha development - are there any coding guidelines for implementing ajax requests (specificly server side)?
09:26 I can only find two or three files handling ajax requests (opac-ratings-ajax.pl, opac-tags.pl, tags/review.pl) so I guess it is not used much in koha. Should I try to avoid ajax:ing?
09:27 (working on 14224 atm)
09:29 (guess I should prefix my bug numbers with bug for the bot to catch it :) testing with bug 14224)
09:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14224 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin, ASSIGNED , patron notes about item shown at check in
09:29 bumby \o/
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10:08 magnuse coding guidelines?
10:08 wahanui coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines
10:09 magnuse bumby: i don't think there any specific to ajax, but have a look
10:09 fridolin does any one have the same issue with save password : Bug 14599 ?
10:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14599 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Saved auth login and password are used in patron creation from
10:14 Joubu fridolin: bug 14544, I don't have $shelf-> at l.120
10:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the list related code to Koha::Virtualshelves
10:15 Joubu fridolin: ok got it
10:16 fridolin Joubu: ah cool
10:17 bumby magnuse: Thanks, I've looked there but found nothing relevant. I guess I'll just follow the few examples I've found, they seem to work fine :)
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10:22 magnuse bumby: cool
10:23 there should be more examples in the intranet, i think
10:23 searching bugzilla for ajax gives 65 hits
10:24 Joubu marcelr: are you working on bug 14702?
10:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14702 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Fix GetReserveFee
10:26 Joubu marcelr: ok, read your commit msg
10:27 marcelr yeah
10:27 fix coming
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10:39 Joubu ho f***
10:39 sorry for the spam...
10:48 magnuse @wunder boo
10:48 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on August 21, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
11:10 Joubu marcelr: for bug 9809, do you suggest to mark it as PQA?
11:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9809 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Get rid of reserveconstraints
11:11 marcelr yes let tomas decide further
11:11 Joubu marcelr: I would not put 2 patchsets in conflict in the RM queue
11:11 marcelr i do not see the problem
11:11 rebasing is everywhre
11:12 the conflict will not be that hard, i guess
11:12 Joubu We will get 3 steps, instead of 1 :)
11:12 marcelr 3?
11:12 wahanui hmmm... 3 is not.
11:12 Joubu kyle/you will write the patch, I will QA it, then Tomas
11:12 You propose to keep only the last step
11:12 marcelr we are talking about 9809?
11:13 Joubu I think you were attached to these steps? ;)
11:13 marcelr it has been signed, so next is qa
11:13 if you qa it at least?
11:13 that was my assumption..
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11:14 * Joubu is lost
11:14 marcelr somehow we are not understanding something
11:15 Joubu I would prefer to get a followup on top of 14464 to fix the potential conflict. In order not to let this patch/merge conflict to Tomas
11:15 marcelr ok; i just think if the other patch does not get pushed, we are rebasing for nothing
11:16 so i just wait for the push first
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11:16 Joubu So I will wait to PQA it
11:16 marcelr ok
11:16 maybe we better ask tcohen to push the other one now
11:17 Joubu yep, he should be around soon
11:18 marcelr @later tell tcohen what about bug 14464 ? if you push it, we can rebase bug 9809 on top of it
11:18 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded.
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11:21 drojf hi #koha
11:23 xarragon This childish mental handicap of mine prevents me from looking at stuff like 'loo.onhold' without snickering in the templates..
11:27 drojf xarragon: you will love moosex
11:27 xarragon gahh.. i can feel it already
11:32 drojf @later tell liddel try the german koha list at http://lists.koha-community.or[…]/listinfo/koha-de
11:32 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
11:33 drojf hmpf
11:33 @later tell liddle try the german koha list at http://lists.koha-community.or[…]/listinfo/koha-de
11:33 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
11:33 drojf sorry for the spam, liddel. if you do exist ^^
11:34 xarragon Hmm.. weird, my browser sees a logged in admin page but the JS debuuger in the browser sees the "unauthorized" page
11:34 drojf reload in the debuggermaybe?
11:36 xarragon Guess having 10+ paranoia plugins could be the issue..
11:36 Let's see if Chromium handles it properly
11:37 marcelr Joubu: bug 14702: would you have another idea for the third patch? We could even clear hold fees when upgrading?
11:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14702 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Fix GetReserveFee
11:38 marcelr hmm maybe it still needs some attention for the biblio level hold
11:39 Joubu marcelr: I will try to have a closer look, but it looks good
11:39 marcelr: s/IFNULL/COALESCE
11:44 marcelr bye Koha
11:45 magnuse i want to delete all patrons in a given category that do not have any active loans/issues. if i use the "Batch patron deletion/anonymization" tool and just select the patron category - should that do the trick? and leave intact any patrons with active loans/issues?
11:51 Joubu magnuse: I don't think so
11:51 they will be deleted even if they have active issues
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11:55 magnuse Joubu: ouch! thanks
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11:59 Joubu magnuse: looking at the code, I was wrong. There is a check not to delete patrons with fines or issues
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12:02 magnuse Joubu: i have a vague feeling there was a bug related to that...
12:02 Joubu magnuse: I should be fixed
12:03 Bug 11352
12:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11352 critical, P3, ---, abl, CLOSED FIXED, Batch Patron Deletion/Anonmyzation deletes more than warning states it will delete
12:03 magnuse ah, cool!
12:04 i'll backup the db and try it :-)
12:04 Joubu yes, backup! :)
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12:10 magnuse Joubu: it works as advertised, only patrons without active issues are deleted. phew...
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12:11 xarragon So now I am coding Koha from the hospital. :-)
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12:13 Viktor xarragon Hopefully not while being prodded. You are quite allowed to put the computer down while being examined :)
12:14 xarragon But I guess it's the same wifi :)
12:14 xarragon Viktor: Yeah, Region Halland.
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12:15 xarragon Viktor: Hopefully they will only poke probes into my nasal cavity and no other orifices.. That will make it a bit hard to look at the laptop I guess.
12:16 tcohen morning #koha!
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12:16 magnuse kia ora tcohen
12:16 Viktor xarragon LOL! Certainly hope so.
12:16 tcohen Morning
12:18 xarragon Doctors once drained spinal fluid on me and the doctor who knew what he was doing walked out and let the intern handle it. Not my happiest prodding moment :)
12:18 xarragon Viktor: I am having some issues with that patch I am looking at. Can't seem to set any rules, the web interface seems to have some broken JS in both Chromium and FF.
12:18 Viktor: Wonderful.
12:19 The doctors are giving me some odd looks. They must think I am hax0ring the place.
12:19 Viktor xarragon Hm. Weird. Which one of them was it again?
12:19 xarragon Viktor: The ones for Hylte's overdue stuff.. 12772
12:19 Viktor xarragon Well arent you? :)
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12:20 xarragon Of course not, not while I am working!
12:20 magnuse ...or being prodded
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12:21 Viktor xarragon I actually don't like relying on the public wifi for work since it's to vulnerable to hacking from others on the same one.
12:21 xarragon :)
12:21 xarragon yeah.. well, in this case I just needed to install some debian packages, and they are cryptographically signed so i am fine with that.
12:22 Viktor magnuse "Careful with that if you don't want your Facebook default setting for posts being 'public' " ;)
12:22 xarragon Public IRC logging is also fun in that aspect.
12:23 But this is not the weirdest conversation I have had on IRC.
12:23 Viktor: Well if you can easily test the patches that can tell me if I am testing them the wrong way.
12:24 Viktor xarragon I'll try applying them and see what happens.
12:24 xarragon The SQL in th new overdue script does select overdue items correctly, but it seems I can't set any rules.. I am going to check the DB for the overdue rules and see if they end up in there.
12:25 In my case I can not edit a line once I create it.
12:25 And all the checkboxes are just disabled.
12:25 Viktor: Btw, found another free IDE: CodeLite.
12:26 Joubu xarragon: I don't know what you are trying to do but, did you see the deps?
12:26 on bug 13624
12:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Signed Off , Remove columns branchcode, categorytype from table overduerules_transport_types
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12:40 tcohen Joubu: good morning
12:40 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes
12:42 Joubu tcohen: o/
12:43 xarragon Viktor: When I do check boxes for "email" etc for a rule, they do get stored into the table 'overduerules', but it won't show in the Web UI, all boxes are empty and disabled even when editing a row.
12:44 Web console gives an error about an empty selection string in jquery.
12:45 I will try it on my Wintendo box when I get back home.
12:45 For me, FF and Chromium on Linux are no-go.
12:46 Viktor: Also, when I run the overdue script I get a heap of errors: 'keys on reference is experimental at', which is bad..
12:47 Joubu add a % in front of the $hashref
12:47 Viktor xarragon Thanks! I think that if you don't get it up and running chances are small that I will. But let's have a look together next week if nothing else.
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13:07 magnuse have fun #koha!
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13:30 xarragon Viktor: Ok, I have stuff in my nasal cavity now. The big probing is yet to come but I'll code up until that happens.
13:31 Joubu: Yeah, I plan to do that and fixa ny other errors. It is just a reference, so dereferencing it will make thoe code valid, good'ol standard Perl.
13:31 Mmm.. nothing quite like the feeling of 'drop database koha'
13:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14588: Simplify merge_ajax.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]17e705e198ac24b93> / Bug 14031: Itemnumber should be a numeric search in ccl.properties <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e214b29518895798a> / Bug 14652: Change one more occurrence of N/A. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…].git;a=commitdiff
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16:32 Joubu have a good w-e #koha
16:32 if someone is still around...
16:32 pianohacker bye Joubu :)
16:51 xarragon Hmm, so if I have an overdue item and rules that says to email me after a delay of one day.. Can I just run misc/overdue_notices.pl and something shoudl appear in the 'messages' table?
16:54 Ah, verbose flag actually gives me most of the meat
16:55 Joubu check the branchcode (you can have a specific rule for a library)
16:55 check the category code, an also the requiredoverduenotice (or something) flag in the categories table
16:56 which is a checkbox in the interface
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16:56 Joubu xarragon: also the -t (trigger) param (overdue_notices.pl)
16:56 can change the behavior
16:57 have to run
16:57 xarragon: good luck :)
16:58 xarragon Bye, thanks. Should be fine, this is the old code. Just need to know how to trigger a message there so i can try iyt on the new code as well
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18:22 tcohen bad news, even when Apache docs says UDS support was introduced in 2.4.7, it wasn't until 2.4.8 :-/
18:22 pianohacker tcohen: unix domain sockets for fcgi?
18:23 tcohen yeap. For proxypass, in general
18:23 mod_proxy feature
18:23 it means koha-plack would only work with Debian Jessie
18:23 or Ubuntu 14.04 with a backports ppa
18:24 pianohacker hmm. Do we have to do it with proxypass? I thought Apache had supported direct fcgi through uds for ages
18:25 * tcohen sits and waits to be elinghted by pianohacker
18:27 tcohen pianohacker: *for ages* might date back to 2013, when apache 2.4.8 came out, right?
18:27 pianohacker enlightenment or half-remembered falsehoods...
18:27 I thought it was on 2.0 or 2.2, one sec
18:30 tcohen: ahhh, I'm thinking of mod_fastcgi
18:30 which would require a non_free dependency :/
18:34 * tcohen needs a beer
18:35 tcohen that's all folks, have a nice weekend :-D
18:35 pianohacker bye tcohen :)
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18:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13387: Uniform titles (130 / 240 / 730) Display in XSLT <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]45dcd58655e3949ee> / Bug 14693: Contract.t should generate dates based on current date <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6f31e8155940e1909>
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22:58 gideon hi  who knows where i can change header and footer html in koha admin ?

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