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| 00:13 | rangi | @later tell joubu ah yes it had stopped, fixed now |
| 00:13 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:37 | Francesca | @wunder wlg |
| 00:37 | huginn | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on August 19, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 01:18 | eythian | http://developers.slashdot.org[…]e-room-of-manuals |
| 01:44 | wizzyrea | kohadevbox |
| 01:44 | wahanui | i think kohadevbox is at https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox |
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| 02:28 | dcook | @wunder syd |
| 02:28 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney Airport, New South Wales is 16.0°C (12:00 PM AEST on August 19, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Falling). |
| 02:29 | dcook | eythian: Oh man... |
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| 02:57 | rangi | @marc 852 |
| 02:57 | huginn | rangi: Identifies the organization holding the item or from which it is available. May also contain detailed information about how to locate the item in a collection. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,p,q,s,t,u,x,z,2,3,6,8] |
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| 03:39 | dcook | OFTC sure seems a bit unstable lately? |
| 03:39 | eythian | could be, or it could be some part of the internet |
| 03:40 | dcook | Hmm, I suppose it does tend to be the Americans? |
| 03:40 | cdickinson | at least that netsplit was just a small one |
| 03:40 | lol | |
| 03:52 | dcook | On an unrelated note, here's hoping that REST API is coming along... |
| 03:53 | I wonder if anyone is still using the ILS-DI API... | |
| 03:59 | So surprised to see this on the ILS-DI page -> "Search (Use SRU instead)" | |
| 04:00 | Well, maybe not super surprised | |
| 04:00 | I suppose everything in a MARC record should be public except for whatever fields/subfields are supposed to be private | |
| 04:01 | Although 541 is the only field I can think of with indicators for privacy... | |
| 04:01 | * dcook | loves MARC's consistency |
| 04:02 | dcook | marc? |
| 04:02 | wahanui | http://marc-must-die.info |
| 04:02 | dcook | marc history? |
| 04:02 | wahanui | marc history is http://www.loc.gov/marc/status.html |
| 04:02 | dcook | Hmm seems like a few |
| 04:03 | 541, 542, 561, 583 | |
| 04:03 | http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/ecbdlist.html | |
| 04:03 | marc list? | |
| 04:03 | marc list is http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/ecbdlist.html | |
| 04:03 | marc list? | |
| 04:03 | wahanui | it has been said that marc list is http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/ecbdlist.html |
| 04:03 | dcook | forget marc list |
| 04:03 | wahanui | dcook: I forgot marc list |
| 04:03 | dcook | marc bib list is http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/ecbdlist.html |
| 04:03 | marc bib list? | |
| 04:03 | wahanui | marc bib list is http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/ecbdlist.html |
| 04:04 | dcook | I suppose we don't respect those indicators but then we have the frameworks... |
| 04:04 | But then there's all the OPAC system preferences for hiding and suppressing stuff and arggh... | |
| 04:05 | rangi | .00000001% of the library workers would even know what those indicators are |
| 04:05 | i don't think we can ever trust that indicators are filled in correctly | |
| 04:06 | dcook | Truuue that |
| 04:06 | wizzyrea | all of that. |
| 04:06 | rangi | people forget that the places people think of as libraries (publics and academics) are the minority |
| 04:06 | and almost everyone is not a trained cataloguer | |
| 04:06 | dcook | ? |
| 04:06 | rangi | specials and corporates |
| 04:06 | far outnumber | |
| 04:06 | dcook | Even trained cataloguers don't know heaps of things about MARC |
| 04:06 | rangi | publics and academic libraries |
| 04:07 | dcook | Yeah, I suppose only our academic libraries have pointed out the indicator privacy thing |
| 04:07 | The special/corporate libraries are more interested in the APIs I think | |
| 04:07 | s/The/Our/ | |
| 04:08 | And I suppose if they're using the APIs, they have their own ideas about what should be shown and not shown | |
| 04:08 | And they can use the 942$whatever in terms of record suppression | |
| 04:09 | Aside: I get why GetAvailability wasn't finished for the bib-level... GetRecords works quite well and can be used hand in hand with GetAvailability at the item-level... beauty | |
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| 04:26 | dcook | Actually, I just remembered that we don't respect the framework visibility either except in the editor and maybe the MARC pages... |
| 04:26 | Although I suppose mtompset is working on that | |
| 04:26 | wizzyrea | i thought mtompset was working on that |
| 04:26 | lol | |
| 04:26 | yes. | |
| 04:26 | he is. | |
| 04:27 | * Francesca | waves |
| 04:27 | dcook | I didn't like his initial implementation, so I did a quick version for us locally for the OPAC, but hopefully something comes of that |
| 04:27 | I think tcohen was also working on that... | |
| 04:27 | yo Francesca | |
| 04:27 | Francesca | hey dcook :) |
| 04:27 | * dcook | liked tcohen's idea much better |
| 04:27 | Francesca | hows aussie? |
| 04:27 | dcook | Mmm not bad |
| 04:27 | Spent ages this morning locating and purchasing cat food | |
| 04:28 | Francesca | hahahahaha I thought you weren't a cat person? |
| 04:28 | dcook | Hehe. I'm not :p |
| 04:28 | But we don't have a car and cat food is heavy, so I lug it around | |
| 04:29 | One of them also whines if he can't sleep on my feet | |
| 04:29 | That reminds me of an article I saw somewhere... | |
| 04:29 | Francesca | loool |
| 04:29 | my cats complain about everything | |
| 04:29 | dcook | http://www.slate.com/blogs/quo[…]_t_like_them.html |
| 04:30 | Not that I hate cats | |
| 04:30 | Francesca | hahahaha thats brilliant |
| 04:31 | glad to hear it | |
| 04:31 | one of mine is currently watching me write an essay | |
| 04:31 | on cats | |
| 04:31 | dcook | wizzyrea: It was cool seeing you in that video! |
| 04:32 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 04:32 | dcook | Although I hate to laugh about cjh... I still haven't ever heard him speak :p |
| 04:32 | have to laugh* | |
| 04:32 | wizzyrea | pity I hadn't had a haircut |
| 04:32 | dcook | Story of my life O_O |
| 04:32 | * dcook | should add that caption to every family photo ever |
| 04:32 | dcook | My mum is amazing at taking bad photos of her children :p |
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| 04:33 | dcook | On an unrelated topic, wizzyrea, did you recently comment on a bug relating to the RSS format of opac-search? |
| 04:33 | * dcook | swears he's seen that recently.. |
| 04:33 | wizzyrea | erm |
| 04:33 | I don't think so? | |
| 04:33 | dcook | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14524 |
| 04:33 | huginn | 04Bug 14524: major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Result list RSS feed broken |
| 04:33 | dcook | Katrin I think |
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| 04:34 | dcook | Usually if I need to find something, either you or cait has already found it :p |
| 04:34 | wizzyrea | well I did, but only to say that it would be in 3.18.09 :P |
| 04:34 | dcook | Hmm I don't think that's the problem I may or may not have though.. |
| 04:35 | It looks really funny in my dev tools... like things aren't nested correctly.. | |
| 04:35 | I suppose I could use the RSS reader that eythian hosts... | |
| 04:35 | wizzyrea | ironically I'm wearing that exact shirt/sweater combo today |
| 04:35 | but my hair is shorter :P | |
| 04:36 | dcook | :p |
| 04:36 | wizzyrea | probably ought to go fetch my child. |
| 04:36 | dcook | Hmm they do require that.. |
| 04:36 | Such a different way I grew up | |
| 04:36 | I remember there was one kid who got picked up by their parents. We all thought they were weird. | |
| 04:37 | Of course, there were about 500 people in the town, and the town wasn't that wide | |
| 04:39 | Hmm RSS reader parsed it OK... | |
| 04:39 | Iirc, elements inspectors don't cope well with empty elements... | |
| 04:42 | Yarp... looks like that might be the case | |
| 04:42 | Chrome is not a fan of "<opensearch:Query role="request" searchTerms="" startPage="" />" | |
| 04:43 | Or the self-closed "atom" element.. | |
| 04:43 | I suppose because it's thinking of it as HTML and it's all "AHHHHHH" | |
| 04:52 | Francesca | lol |
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| 06:25 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 06:27 | magnuse | @later tell Kchris not sure i understand you question correctly. installing another language should just be "sudo koha-translate --install <langcode>" |
| 06:27 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:27 | magnuse | kia ora Viktor |
| 06:39 | Viktor | kia ora magnuse |
| 06:42 | Btw xarragon uploaded the patch for bug 14367 yesterday. It's one that I look forward to running myself :) | |
| 06:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14367 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , History for MARC records. Roll back changes on a timeline or per field. |
| 06:44 | Viktor | And bumby started this week and warmed up with a patch for bug 14675 |
| 06:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14675 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin, Needs Signoff , Updating personal details on OPAC - request sent even if no changes are made |
| 06:50 | magnuse | Viktor: should 14367 be "needs signoff", or isn't it ready yet? |
| 06:51 | Viktor | I think needs signoff. But I'll check. Not at the office currently :) |
| 06:52 | I got it as a patch a while ago but find it easier to pull from Bugzilla so I asked him to upload it :) | |
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| 06:56 | Joubu | hello |
| 06:56 | rangi: do you know why it had stopped? | |
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| 07:03 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
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| 07:03 | drojf | morning #koha |
| 07:03 | magnuse | moin drojf |
| 07:03 | drojf | hei magnuse |
| 07:03 | * cait | waves |
| 07:04 | cait | breakfast time - mini pancakes! |
| 07:04 | * Francesca | waves at everyone |
| 07:04 | Francesca | yuuuum |
| 07:04 | drojf | hi cait. shouldn't you be vacaiting? ;) |
| 07:04 | heh | |
| 07:05 | hi Francesca | |
| 07:06 | Francesca | heya! |
| 07:09 | magnuse | ooh, pancakes! |
| 07:09 | wahanui | pancakes are always good |
| 07:10 | Francesca | for once I actually agree with wahanui |
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| 08:05 | drojf | are there any koha-related reasons not to use debian jessie these days? i still run wheezy everywhere, i wonder what other people do |
| 08:21 | Joubu | drojf: It depends on the version you are using |
| 08:21 | I think > 3.18.x is Jessie compatible | |
| 08:22 | see bug 14106 for instance | |
| 08:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14106 major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , koha-conf paths to zebra libraries are wrong in jessie |
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| 08:54 | Viktor | Does anyone else think that the news looks like a bunch of scattered postits? |
| 08:55 | I like it more as we did here http://hylte.bibkat.se to keep it together in a common newsarea. But unshure if that's just personal taste or if a patch would be motivated. | |
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| 09:15 | drojf | thanks Joubu |
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| 11:07 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 11:07 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 21.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on August 19, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
| 11:07 | magnuse | and no wind! |
| 11:10 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 11:10 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 21.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on August 19, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:11 | drojf | you win (no clouds) ;) |
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| 11:17 | magnuse | woohoo! |
| 11:17 | bug 14100 sounds pretty awesome! | |
| 11:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14100 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Generic solution for language overlay |
| 11:21 | Joubu | thanks for the advertisement magnuse :) |
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| 11:21 | magnuse | thanks for the great work Joubu :-) |
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| 11:24 | bumby | m |
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| 11:55 | irma | Hi all :-) |
| 11:56 | I am preparing a presentation and just checked http://hea.koha-community.org/ | |
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| 11:57 | Joubu | whaou 132 lib! |
| 11:57 | irma | If 132 participating libraries have a total of 9.1 Million biblios ... what do you think is the number of Koha powered libraries globally? |
| 11:59 | If it were 7000 libraries that would be approx 453 million biblio records ! | |
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| 12:00 | BobB_ | so what is the best estimate of the number of Koha libraries world wide today? |
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| 12:02 | Joubu | I think that nobody knows... |
| 12:03 | irma | Joubu I think you are right, nobody knows ... |
| 12:04 | Joubu | more than 132 :p |
| 12:04 | magnuse | libwebcats has 2479 then there is ~1000 in argentina + ~1000 in turkey |
| 12:05 | that gives a very minimum figure | |
| 12:05 | irma | and in the Philipines |
| 12:05 | Joubu | + india |
| 12:05 | magnuse | we know it is more than 4500 |
| 12:05 | yup | |
| 12:06 | irma | This is my talk : "Leveraging Collaborating Communities to Expand Collections’ Visibility, |
| 12:06 | Discovery and Linking." | |
| 12:07 | BobB_ | does anyone have a link to zeno tajoli's work on federated searching? |
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| 12:10 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 12:12 | irma | hi marcelr |
| 12:12 | marcelr | :) |
| 12:20 | barton | jcamins: I ran across http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_Zebra_indexing last night -- this includes an IRC discussion that you had with hdl it's down in the "Abandon hope, all ye who enter here" section -- um... who knows when ;-) ... it's not clear to me whether that discussion is entirely GRS-1, or whether the information there is still relevant. ... I think that the 'all,any' index still exists, but I've never been clear on h |
| 12:21 | morning druthb :-) | |
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| 12:24 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:24 | @wunder cordoba, argentina | |
| 12:24 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 10.6°C (9:20 AM ART on August 19, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:25 | Joubu | tcohen: whatch though the window! |
| 12:25 | tcohen | I was presuming :-D |
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| 12:28 | tcohen | hi Joubu |
| 12:29 | Joubu | ¡Buenos dias tcohen! |
| 12:29 | tcohen | ¡Bonjour, Joubu! |
| 12:30 | i'm trying to figure what's going on with Contract.t | |
| 12:31 | i think it is the tests failing due to the dates that were chosen on writing them | |
| 12:31 | but I'm not used to how acqs work | |
| 12:32 | oh | |
| 12:32 | jcamins | barton: A) your message was cut off, and B) "all any" is a command in GRS-1, so it doesn't apply to DOM. |
| 12:32 | Joubu | 76 contractenddate => '2015-07-31', |
| 12:32 | I suspect it fails since this date :) | |
| 12:33 | confirmed, it passes if I set the contractenddate to 2015-08-31 | |
| 12:34 | tcohen | yeah, that was my guess too, was trying to figure how to generate a date with our tools |
| 12:34 | jcamins: good morning | |
| 12:34 | wahanui | well, it's morning somewhere, yes |
| 12:36 | jcamins | Good morning. |
| 12:36 | wahanui | well, it's morning somewhere, yes |
| 12:36 | BobB_ | wahanui never sleeps |
| 12:36 | wahanui | BobB_: excuse me? |
| 12:36 | barton | jcamins: isn't there an 'any' index in DOM? or is it 'any,any'? I know that I've seen something like it. |
| 12:37 | jcamins | barton: sure, there's an any index, but that has nothing to do with "all any" |
| 12:38 | barton | ah... could we reomove that discussion from the wiki then? (it's there in history, of course) |
| 12:38 | jcamins | I don't care. |
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| 12:58 | tcohen | Joubu: will you provide a counter-patch for updatedatabase on bug 14598? |
| 12:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14598 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , itemtype is not set on statistics by C4::Circulation::AddReturn |
| 13:00 | Joubu | tcohen: I haven't planned to do it |
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| 13:03 | tcohen | Joubu: what would you do instead of what I did? |
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| 13:05 | Joubu | I'd write the SQL queries |
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| 13:14 | Shane-S | is there a keyboard shortcut to get back to the circulation checkout box versus mouse clicking...in my case touchpad...so slow and shift-tab takes forever too |
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| 13:25 | magnuse | Shane-S: Alt+u? |
| 13:26 | Shane-S | sweet thanks, does that return to the page default focus, or is that html coded? |
| 13:27 | magnuse | there is some javascript trickery behind it |
| 13:29 | Shane-S: http://translate.koha-communit[…]op/#keyboardshort | |
| 13:34 | wnickc | those are awesome, I will begin sharing them far and wide |
| 13:34 | nengard | they've been in the manual for years and years and years ... just saying wnickc |
| 13:37 | wnickc | nengard: yeah, I suspected as much |
| 13:37 | but I have never seen anyone use them | |
| 13:39 | nengard | grumble grumble |
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| 13:40 | wnickc | I did have an infant ith me at my last training, so easily my miss ;-) |
| 13:41 | and is always good to read the friendly manual | |
| 13:48 | nengard | wnickc hehe - well I guess I have to forgive you then :) |
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| 14:26 | xarragon | Hmm, when I try out patches that has atomic upgrades as .pl files rather than .sql, do I just execute them manually? |
| 14:27 | marcelr | xarragon: run the webinstaller upgrade |
| 14:28 | xarragon: i look at updatedatabase now, and see that it still only runs .perl files (not .pl files) | |
| 14:30 | xarragon | marcelr: Ok, thanks. I just saw that there is a second patch that actually renames it to .perl rather than .pl. |
| 14:30 | marcelr | yeah i remember discussing this with kyle |
| 14:30 | i think we should add .pl | |
| 14:30 | it is confusing | |
| 14:31 | xarragon | Any special kind of upgrades that needs to be perl scripts rather than plain SQL? In this case it is 13624, which replaces 2 columns in a table with a foreign key to another table. |
| 14:32 | Havn't really tried that particular stunt myself yet.. | |
| 14:36 | Love how opening the manual web page takes nonstop loading for more than a minute | |
| 14:37 | holy hell the pdfd is 40 megs.. no wonder | |
| 14:50 | Joubu | https://twitter.com/media_hyer[…]o/1?ref_src=twsrc |
| 14:50 | "Today an item has been returned with a delay of 28yearsé | |
| 14:50 | " | |
| 14:51 | "This book should be returned before the last date", and the last date is June 13, 1987 | |
| 14:51 | marcelr | Joubu: large fine? |
| 14:51 | Joubu | marcelr: no! Only 1FF (French Franc, before Euro) |
| 14:52 | which is something like 1/6€ :) | |
| 14:52 | marcelr | :) |
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| 15:47 | Shane-S_ | i have an item i fixed it has a status Withdrawn i want to change it back to available but Withdrawn Status box for the item is empty...how to I change it back? |
| 15:54 | pianohacker | Shane-S_: as in, there's no options in the dropdown? |
| 16:00 | Shane-S_ | No, the drop down box is empty. |
| 16:01 | Found item, clicked Edit, then 0-Withdrawn status is followed by a small empty white box, no options. | |
| 16:09 | pianohacker | Shane-S_: is your authorized value correctly set up? |
| 16:12 | Shane-S_ | says no values set for asort1 |
| 16:14 | I only have values set for damaged in the list there...withdrawn isn't an option in the authorities drop down | |
| 16:16 | nm i found restore button on a different items view | |
| 16:34 | Joubu | see you #koha |
| 16:34 | bag | later Joubu |
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| 19:10 | * wajasu | testing ipv6 connectivity |
| 19:11 | pianohacker | wajasu_: hello from ipv6 as well :) |
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| 19:22 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 19:24 | wnickc: You here? | |
| 19:24 | wnickc | I am |
| 19:24 | mtompset | How might I patch your scripts? :) |
| 19:24 | Logic in bug 10625 might be useful in your scripts. | |
| 19:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10625 major, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Inventory/Stocktaking tool cannot handle windows file uploads |
| 19:25 | wnickc | hmm...first tiem using github here |
| 19:26 | can I not just make it a free for all? | |
| 19:26 | mtompset | I think I have github somewhere... Let me check... |
| 19:28 | wnickc | mtompset: you, or someone with your username, are now a collaborator |
| 19:29 | mtompset | I forked yours. :) |
| 19:29 | So that I can send you a pull request. :) | |
| 19:31 | wnickc | cool |
| 19:33 | mtompset | How do you feel about GPL3? :) |
| 19:34 | xarragon | What are the requirements to change a ticket's status to 'Signed-off'? I am not the owner or assignee, just a humble tester/reviewer. |
| 19:34 | mtompset | I was thinking for hacking in Koha license to the top. :) |
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| 19:34 | wnickc | If it's good enough for Koha, it's good enough for me :) |
| 19:36 | mtompset | When did you first write this? |
| 19:36 | wnickc | Um...A year ago, roughly |
| 19:36 | well, proof of concept maybe 2 years | |
| 19:36 | mtompset | Good enough... 2014 it is. |
| 19:37 | *shrug* 2013 for good measure then. | |
| 19:39 | wnickc | xarragon: follow the test plan, if it works as described, Sign Off! |
| 19:40 | if no test plan, ask for one (unless simple or obvious) | |
| 19:40 | mtompset | Archaic page: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches |
| 19:40 | wnickc | you just make sure the fix works, QA makes sure it is a good fix |
| 19:41 | mtompset | Though, git bz is your friend: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
| 19:41 | git bz? | |
| 19:41 | wahanui | i think git bz is so much fun :) or http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration or just about anything except intuitive or AMAZING and WONDERFUL |
| 19:41 | xarragon | wnickc: Ok, thanks.. Wasn't sure if I had the authority (Cartman voice) to do that. |
| 19:41 | mtompset | authorita. :P |
| 19:42 | wnickc: Are your barcodes ISBNs? | |
| 19:42 | xarragon | wahanui: git bz bit me in the butt when I thought it refered to commits the same way git show did |
| 19:42 | wahanui | xarragon: sorry... |
| 19:42 | xarragon | Ah, right |
| 19:42 | mtompset | no, because bz means BUGZILLA. :) |
| 19:43 | wnickc | mtompset: god no! Just alternate them unmarked in the file |
| 19:44 | mtompset | Okay, your variable naming is horrible then. :P |
| 19:44 | I see that you are correct, now that you said that. | |
| 19:44 | xarragon | So it makes perfect sense to motivate a purchase of a $300 SSD since I am buying a DisplayPort cable for $13 and I do not want to squander the $8 shipping cost, right? right? |
| 19:45 | wnickc | mtompset: hehe, I provide no warranty with these, and I did a lot of cut and pasting and going "noone will see this but me" |
| 19:45 | mtompset | How thoughtful, I'll take 2, xarragon. ;) |
| 19:45 | wnickc: No problems. :) | |
| 19:45 | Been there. Done that. :) | |
| 19:46 | So, could you have an empty barcode or an empty isbn? | |
| 19:47 | wnickc | I think it dies if you do |
| 19:47 | it may warn, or may just stop processing abruptly | |
| 19:52 | xarragon | mtompset: well that would mean more shipping costs.. |
| 19:52 | So in that case I have to buy something even more expensive to save more money etc | |
| 19:53 | mtompset | In that case, I have a $15,000 dream machine to pre-assemble. ;) |
| 19:53 | xarragon | But if I buy something REALLY expensive then maybe it will wrap around and I'll make money instead of paying, |
| 20:04 | mtompset | xarragon: Did you prove t/db_dependent/Overdues.t? |
| 20:07 | Because that's the beauty of tests being included with the patch. If they are well written, they test what needs to be tested. :) | |
| 20:09 | xarragon | mtompset: Yep it reported all good, as I say in the comment (I think). |
| 20:10 | Ah I mention "automated tests", could be a bit more explicit I guess. | |
| 20:11 | Moving on to 12772 | |
| 20:12 | mtompset | No, what you did seems fine. |
| 20:12 | Also, that SQL stuff is a confusing read. | |
| 20:13 | xarragon | mtompset: I was curious if it would be possible to do such a change in SQL only; withoyut the need for a perl file? |
| 20:15 | mtompset | It's often best to not think about some things. :) -- Between the QA and RM, someone would complain if that is the wrong way to do it. At the lowest level, the issue is more, does it work as expected without expressly violating known guidelines. |
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| 20:21 | xarragon | mtompset: I did not mean to complain, it was just that when I first submitted a db patch I needlessly put it into a .pl file. But mine was trivial; this task was more complex. I had merely had an academic interest in it. |
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| 20:22 | xarragon | But no matter, I have more patches to sign off on |
| 20:22 | mtompset | I didn't say you were complaining, so I apologize if it came off that way. :) |
| 20:22 | xarragon | Also there will be no free SSDs, because I found a cheaper cable in a local store here. No shipping costs to offset. |
| 20:23 | mtompset: It did not, I am sorry if I gave that impression. | |
| 20:23 | mtompset | Sayang! (Oh well) |
| 20:51 | wnickc: You here? | |
| 20:51 | wnickc | mtompset: indeed |
| 20:51 | mtompset | Take a look at my pull request. :) |
| 20:52 | I'm trying to figure out how NOT to pull request to master. | |
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| 20:54 | mtompset | I'm hating this interface. |
| 20:55 | wnickc | I can't help you there, I only sort of understand git |
| 20:55 | I also think you can merge it in to master | |
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| 20:58 | wnickc | mtompset: there is a second branch now though, maybe try that? |
| 20:59 | tubaclarinet | Good day everyone. Did I hear correctly that the inventory feature of Koha is being upgraded in v.3.20? |
| 21:02 | mtompset | What do you mean? I was refering to a bug report that is already in Koha now. |
| 21:03 | wnickc: Okay, I'll pull against unstable. :) | |
| 21:03 | Francesca | hello |
| 21:03 | tubaclarinet: love your username | |
| 21:03 | wahanui | bidet, Francesca |
| 21:04 | tubaclarinet | Francesca: :-) |
| 21:04 | mtompset | Greetings, Francesca. :) |
| 21:05 | Francesca | Hey mtompset |
| 21:05 | wahanui | somebody said mtompset was catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. |
| 21:05 | Francesca | what's up? |
| 21:06 | mtompset | Just making wnickc's scripts pretty. :) |
| 21:07 | Francesca | oh I like making stuff look pretty |
| 21:08 | wnickc | mtompset++ |
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| 21:08 | * Francesca | waves at cdickinson |
| 21:08 | cdickinson | =_= |
| 21:09 | Francesca | is that a tired face? |
| 21:09 | cdickinson | bags under my tired eyes |
| 21:09 | Francesca | lol |
| 21:10 | love how there are now 2 musical usernames on here | |
| 21:12 | mtompset | pianohacker and tubaclarinet? |
| 21:12 | Francesca | ypu |
| 21:12 | yup | |
| 21:13 | tubaclarinet | Anyone know about updates to Koha inventory tool? |
| 21:14 | mtompset | tubaclarinet: Why are you asking? |
| 21:15 | Are you encountering a problem? | |
| 21:16 | tubaclarinet | mtompset: at present, inventory during lib open hrs is problematic w/ currently checked out items & i thot i heard that this was being improved. |
| 21:16 | Not encountering problems, i will just suggest we wait 2 inventory until the nxt version of Koha. | |
| 21:17 | mtompset | OH.... you are probably thinking of .... |
| 21:17 | bug 11405 | |
| 21:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11405 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Inventory tool enhancements |
| 21:18 | Francesca | @wunder wlg |
| 21:18 | huginn | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (9:00 AM NZST on August 20, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:18 | mtompset | As you can see, it hasn't been signed off yet. But it is one of the ones I do want to get around to testing and confirming. :) |
| 21:18 | tubaclarinet | mtompset: Thx, i'll check it out |
| 21:19 | mtompset: So bug 11405 might be in koha v.3.22, but not any sooner than that? | |
| 21:20 | cait_ | it's marked as an enh - so yes |
| 21:20 | if it was a bug fix, it could get backported | |
| 21:20 | mtompset | What cait_ said. |
| 21:21 | * cait_ | waves |
| 21:21 | tubaclarinet | "enh" = enhancement or...? |
| 21:21 | Francesca | tubaclarinet: I'm you're a fan of music if not a musician |
| 21:21 | * Francesca | waves at cait_ |
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| 21:22 | Francesca | *I'm guessing (left a word out) |
| 21:22 | tubaclarinet | Francesca: my wife plays clarinet (very well if i may brag) & i play tuba :-) |
| 21:22 | Francesca | oh cool |
| 21:23 | tubaclarinet | Francesca: it works for us |
| 21:24 | Francesca | I study music at uni |
| 21:25 | tubaclarinet | Francesca: me 2...bachelor of music in tuba perf |
| 21:25 | Francesca | oh cool |
| 21:25 | cait_ | yep |
| 21:26 | tubaclarinet | Francesca: that degree basically says, "as fas as we know, this person practiced a lot and performed in our ensembles" but not good 4 much more than that ;-) |
| 21:26 | Francesca | hahahahaha |
| 21:26 | wahanui | hmmm... hahahahaha is there someone else we should ask? |
| 21:27 | Francesca | I'm a music studies student |
| 21:27 | so don't quite have that | |
| 21:27 | rangi | morning |
| 21:28 | Francesca | hey rangi :) |
| 21:28 | tubaclarinet | Francesca: cool...music in general or somethings specific? |
| 21:28 | Francesca | general: I play multiple instruments outside of the uni though |
| 21:30 | tubaclarinet | Francesca: ur musical style? classical? jazz? pop? folk? etc. |
| 21:30 | Francesca | classical |
| 21:30 | tubaclarinet | Francesca: classical = my fav |
| 21:31 | Francesca | yay! |
| 21:32 | tubaclarinet | Frencesca: it was good 2 meet u, but I gotta go now :-( c u around the irc |
| 21:33 | mtompset: thx 4 ur help | |
| 21:33 | mtompset | No problem, tubaclarinet. |
| 21:33 | tubaclarinet | bye! |
| 21:33 | Francesca | see ya lter tubaclarinet |
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| 21:51 | wnickc | bye #koha |
| 22:00 | eythian | hi |
| 22:00 | wahanui | hello, eythian |
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| 22:54 | wizzyrea | hi |
| 22:55 | * dcook | wonders if wizzyrea is secretly eythian |
| 22:55 | wizzyrea | nope, pretty sure not. |
| 22:55 | eythian | oh no! my secret! |
| 22:55 | Francesca | hahahahaha |
| 22:55 | wahanui | hahahahaha is there someone else we should ask? |
| 22:56 | dcook | Hmm I don't know how to say what I want to say.. |
| 22:56 | * dcook | researches quickly |
| 22:56 | dcook | That "hi" seemed eythianesque |
| 22:57 | Francesca | lol |
| 22:57 | dcook | Except I don't think "esque" is quite the right thing to say.. |
| 22:57 | eythianian? | |
| 22:57 | * Francesca | waves at dcook |
| 22:57 | dcook | hey Francesca :) |
| 22:57 | wizzyrea | well, I only do it because if I don't put something in, I might miss my @laters :P |
| 22:57 | dcook | Ah, fair enough |
| 22:57 | No one laters me :( | |
| 22:57 | Well, recently :p | |
| 22:57 | O_O | |
| 22:57 | Forget I said that | |
| 22:58 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 22:58 | * dcook | anticipates spam laters now |
| 22:58 | * Francesca | laughs at dcook |
| 23:00 | wizzyrea | @later tell dcook that thing you did? that thing? it was awesome. |
| 23:00 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:00 | * wizzyrea | flexes |
| 23:00 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:00 | Oooh | |
| 23:00 | Sent just now: <wizzyrea> that thing you did? that thing? it was awesome. | |
| 23:00 | I wonder what the threshold of "just now" is... | |
| 23:00 | At least 13 seconds.. | |
| 23:01 | Actually, that makes me think about that whole "we'll be there presently" thing as well... | |
| 23:01 | eythian | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War <-- dcook, so about your adoptive country |
| 23:01 | https://en.wikipedia.org/w/ind[…]r&oldid=510193971 <-- but this is a better infobox | |
| 23:01 | dcook | I went to "Emu Bank" the other day |
| 23:01 | It was not a bank run by emus. I was disappointed. | |
| 23:01 | Francesca | emu war??? I'm trying not to laugh here |
| 23:02 | dcook | Francesca: If you're trying not to laugh about Australia, I recommend not watching the Australian news |
| 23:02 | eythian | Francesca: also, the emus won |
| 23:02 | dcook | Well laugh/cry |
| 23:02 | eythian: Well done, emus. | |
| 23:02 | Francesca | the emus won?? this just gets better and better |
| 23:02 | dcook | emuae? |
| 23:02 | eythian | emus |
| 23:02 | 'u' is not a latinate suffix | |
| 23:02 | dcook | emuatta |
| 23:02 | I know :P | |
| 23:02 | eythian | also, it's not a latin word |
| 23:03 | dcook | And I suppose "ae" would refer to one, eh? |
| 23:03 | eythian | no |
| 23:03 | puella/puellae | |
| 23:03 | dcook | antenna/antennae... is the latter plural? |
| 23:03 | eythian | oh wait |
| 23:03 | * dcook | goes back to reading about machine guns |
| 23:03 | eythian | oh, it can be both |
| 23:03 | * Francesca | returns to essay writing |
| 23:03 | eythian | nom/voc pl, gen/dat sing |
| 23:04 | normally plural though cos who uses genitive or dative, really | |
| 23:04 | dcook | "The gun jammed after only twelve birds were killed, however, and the remainder scattered before more could be killed." Awks... |
| 23:04 | Same thing happened to Canada in WWI I think... | |
| 23:05 | Although I don't think those were even automatics.. | |
| 23:05 | Francesca | dcook: why are you reading about machine guns? |
| 23:06 | dcook | Because they tried to kill the emus with machine guns |
| 23:06 | Francesca | right |
| 23:06 | wizzyrea | Spurious text after =cut in file C4/Passwordrecovery.pm urgh, how tf does one track this down. I looked at the docs for pod::Checker but the thing that it says it is, I don't think it is.. |
| 23:06 | so if anyone has an idea, please say. | |
| 23:06 | dcook | Apparently they used gases to wipe out rabbit hordes as well |
| 23:06 | I think they had more success there though | |
| 23:06 | wizzyrea: Come again? | |
| 23:07 | eythian | wizzyrea: you might have a =cut without a blank line after it somewhere? |
| 23:07 | wizzyrea | AH! |
| 23:07 | eythian++ for practical advice | |
| 23:07 | dcook | Ahhh I didn't know the Lee-Enfield rifle was a "three-oh-three" |
| 23:07 | Or rather that the "three-oh-three" was a Lee-Enfield... | |
| 23:08 | rangi | line 163 |
| 23:08 | wizzyrea | yep, I actually found that but since my qa tools don't actually throw the error for god knows what reason I couldn't check it. |
| 23:08 | something is screwed up with my qa tools, apparently | |
| 23:09 | yay? | |
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| 23:36 | mtompset | wizzyrea: You must be testing that forgotten password bug. ;) |
| 23:36 | wizzyrea | how ever did you guess. |
| 23:39 | mtompset | And now I see the error you see. |
| 23:42 | wizzyrea | well you are welcome to that one. |
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| 23:58 | mtompset | wizzyrea: Line 162. |
| 23:58 | wizzyrea | did you happen to notice the new patch that looks at line 162 that I just put on the bug? |
| 23:58 | mtompset | I hunted through the code to figure out what the QA tool was doing. |
| 23:58 | perl -e "use Pod::Checker; podchecker('/home/mtompset/kohaclone/C4/Passwordrecovery.pm');" | |
| 23:59 | DOH! I was too slow. Okay. :( | |
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