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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:48 | dcook joined #koha | |
| 00:56 | dcook | TFW you don't mean to work on Koha today but somehow you spend 2 hours on it... |
| 01:01 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 01:03 | BobB joined #koha | |
| 01:11 | cait1 joined #koha | |
| 01:26 | eythian | http://stuffin.space/ |
| 01:29 | wizzyrea | wow, that is amazing. |
| 01:30 | omgosh, it's updating in realtime | |
| 01:40 | papa | hey rangi, u there? |
| 01:41 | rangi | yep |
| 01:41 | eythian | kids these days, unable to spell words in full. What is this world coming to? |
| 01:42 | dcook | That is pretty neat |
| 01:42 | papa | rangi: brendan is ignoring me |
| 01:44 | rangi | i think bag is off eating steak |
| 01:44 | papa | so what do we do? |
| 01:46 | rangi | jump on the catalyst koha channel and i can show you some wrms |
| 01:46 | * dcook | stopped paying attention after steak |
| 01:52 | eythian | https://i.imgur.com/8ekyTNw.png |
| 01:53 | dcook | O_O |
| 01:54 | wizzyrea | gracious. |
| 01:55 | dcook | Bleargh... this server is so much fun |
| 01:55 | Sometimes I have access and sometimes I don't :S | |
| 01:57 | Oh, actually I have an idea.. | |
| 01:57 | \o/ | |
| 01:57 | Citrix-- | |
| 02:09 | wizzyrea | NZ, where pigs don't fly, but they do have a dip in the ocean now and again: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/n[…]477036&ref=NZH_Tw |
| 02:14 | dcook | That's different |
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| 02:15 | * drojf | sleepwalks |
| 02:15 | * cait1 | does that too |
| 02:15 | cait1 | too hot? |
| 02:15 | * dcook | wonders if everyone is sick |
| 02:16 | cait1 left #koha | |
| 02:16 | drojf | it#s not that hot. i think. it's just. i don't know but i am wide awake :( |
| 02:16 | oh cait1 sleepwalked out of the channel already ;) | |
| 02:17 | eythian | jup\ |
| 02:24 | drojf | *not only |
| 02:25 | eythian | oh right |
| 02:33 | haha | |
| 02:34 | wizzyrea | not if they're at all any good! |
| 02:34 | (and can be convinced to be nice) | |
| 02:34 | drojf | they are not :P |
| 02:41 | oh look it's sunrise :/ | |
| 02:41 | eythian | it can't be sunrise |
| 02:41 | the sun is still up here (in theory) | |
| 02:41 | * dcook | peeks out the window |
| 02:42 | eythian | (this may not be fact, I can't actually see it through the weather.) |
| 02:42 | dcook | It's light but I see no sun |
| 02:43 | drojf | i think i have another 10 minutes until it really starts, but my monitor already switched to daylight |
| 02:43 | dcook | eythian: But it could always be worse: http://www.vancitybuzz.com/201[…]due-to-wildfires/ |
| 02:44 | wizzyrea | hey, the days are getting longer now. |
| 02:44 | eythian | dcook: I've seen that once when the fires in Australia were particularly big |
| 02:44 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 02:44 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 15.0°C (4:20 AM CEST on July 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 02:44 | dcook | eythian: Yeah, I recall seeing similar photos sometime in the past few years... I think I was in Canada at the time |
| 02:44 | wizzyrea | 15 is a nice temp |
| 02:44 | eythian | I got up and the sky was mello yello coloured |
| 02:44 | * dcook | seems to dodge the big smoke |
| 02:44 | wizzyrea | gross |
| 02:45 | dcook | ick |
| 02:45 | to both mello yello and the colour | |
| 02:45 | eythian | heh |
| 02:45 | dcook | @wunder syd |
| 02:45 | huginn` | dcook: The current temperature in Bardwell Park, Sydney, New South Wales is 14.9°C (12:45 PM AEST on July 07, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 02:45 | eythian | I have a photo somewhere, but it doesn't show up well due to white balancing |
| 02:45 | dcook | Whites always causing problems :/ |
| 02:46 | * dcook | wishes he'd learned more in the photography course he did as a kid |
| 02:46 | dcook | Mostly I just remember "flashing" a bunch of people in a church as part of the final project... |
| 02:46 | drojf | you could always do another photography course? |
| 02:47 | dcook | drojf: you're way too reasonable for this time of day |
| 02:47 | * dcook | thinks drojf may have been replaced by a robot |
| 02:47 | drojf | lol |
| 02:47 | dcook | That's the real turing test, me thinks |
| 02:47 | eythian | dcook: also, I'm sure flashing people in a church is frowned upon |
| 02:47 | dcook | eythian: I was young and impressionable! |
| 02:47 | eythian | long overcoat and all? |
| 02:47 | dcook | I think it was a bathrobe |
| 02:48 | I think I was about 10 or 11? Looking back, I'm not sure who thought this was a good idea | |
| 02:48 | wizzyrea | ...also admitting it in a logged channel ^.^ |
| 02:49 | * dcook | shrugs |
| 02:49 | dcook | I'm a fairly open book |
| 02:50 | As I aged, I got more vocal in my resistance to authority? | |
| 02:50 | Hmm, perhaps also not best to say in a logged channel | |
| 02:50 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 02:50 | it's the chilling effect, illustrated. | |
| 02:50 | dcook | Life's too hard to completely filter :p |
| 02:52 | Plus, if you admit to most things, they'll find it harder to blackmail you later? | |
| 02:52 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 02:53 | drojf | they'll blackmail you about the stuff they plant on your computer :( |
| 02:54 | dcook | drojf: Aww... that's a good point. I hadn't thought of that. |
| 02:54 | wizzyrea | at least we'll know who put the backdoor there :P |
| 02:54 | dcook | So what you're saying is... I need to invent a way to dissolve my computer on command |
| 02:54 | wizzyrea | thermite. it's the only way |
| 02:55 | dcook | Thermite sounds really familiar... |
| 02:55 | Hindenburg? | |
| 02:55 | Or was that a myth? | |
| 02:55 | wizzyrea | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3ZkoNF2ybg |
| 02:55 | no, that's what took down the hindenberg, I think they finally decided | |
| 02:56 | basically you take a metal oxide and mix it with some variant of aluminum | |
| 02:56 | and you apply heat | |
| 02:56 | and it melts damn near anything. | |
| 02:56 | * dcook | taps his fingers together joyfully |
| 02:56 | wizzyrea | if it's iron oxide, you'll get pure iron out at the end. |
| 02:57 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euQUgp5AY-Y | |
| 02:57 | this is the best one I know | |
| 02:57 | video-wise | |
| 02:58 | iron oxide, and aluminium powder | |
| 02:58 | drojf | looks like it will get the job done. is there a cd drive slot version for thinkpads? :D |
| 02:58 | dcook | I love how some people say "aluminium" |
| 02:58 | wizzyrea | it's the british way. There's a video about that as well. |
| 02:58 | dcook | Do kiwis say it too? |
| 02:58 | eythian | it's the non-US way, wizzyrea :) |
| 02:58 | * dcook | thinks Aussies do |
| 02:59 | wizzyrea | there you go |
| 02:59 | dcook | eythian: We say "aluminum" in Canada too |
| 02:59 | Oh.. | |
| 02:59 | eythian | dcook: that's your own fault :) |
| 02:59 | wizzyrea | the non-north-american way? |
| 02:59 | eythian | what do they call it in mexico? |
| 03:00 | dcook | That's the real question |
| 03:00 | wizzyrea | 2.26 is the most impressive bit |
| 03:00 | on that last video | |
| 03:00 | dcook | I'm at 2:22 atm |
| 03:00 | That's neat! | |
| 03:00 | lol | |
| 03:00 | 2:53 might be my favourite | |
| 03:01 | wizzyrea | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AhZ8503WPs |
| 03:01 | dcook | Wait... 2:48 |
| 03:01 | wizzyrea | ok, but seriously - I"ve watched every single one of these periodic videos |
| 03:01 | they are awesome | |
| 03:01 | and I highly recommend | |
| 03:02 | dcook | I love that dude's hair |
| 03:02 | Speaking of hair, I should go out and get some food... | |
| 03:02 | wizzyrea | prof poliakoff is fantastic. |
| 03:06 | mtj - about? | |
| 03:07 | mtj | hey wizzyrea, sort of |
| 03:07 | wizzyrea | bug 13143 :) |
| 03:08 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13143 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Add a tool to show a Koha's password |
| 03:08 | wizzyrea | for your later |
| 03:08 | mtj | in te middle of sumthing, atm |
| 03:08 | wizzyrea | when you feel like |
| 03:09 | nw | |
| 03:09 | mtj | $ sudo koha-passwd -n instance |
| 03:09 | Output should be password only | |
| 03:09 | ..where -n is --no-prompt | |
| 03:10 | seems like a better way to me? | |
| 03:10 | wizzyrea | eh, up to you :) |
| 03:10 | drojf | i would try to enter a number after -n |
| 03:10 | because how could it not mean number? ;) | |
| 03:11 | mtj | coz, man page told yoo :) |
| 03:11 | eythian | never, ever ever have a negative option please |
| 03:11 | ever | |
| 03:12 | mtj | $ sudo koha-passwd -p instance |
| 03:12 | eythian | * exceptions will be reviewed by a committee on a case-by-case basis |
| 03:12 | mtj | ..where -p is --prompt |
| 03:12 | eythian | What is prompt/no-prompt going to do? |
| 03:13 | mtj | ..prompts for a key press, before clearing the screen |
| 03:13 | eythian | why is that a better idea than autodetecting whether it's necessary? |
| 03:14 | drojf | do we have a negative commandline option committee manager? |
| 03:14 | eythian | nope |
| 03:14 | wizzyrea | ^ that guy |
| 03:14 | eythian | decisions may take a while |
| 03:14 | drojf | we should |
| 03:14 | i'll add it on the agenda for tomorrow's meeting | |
| 03:14 | eythian | OK |
| 03:14 | drojf | it's not long enough ;) |
| 03:15 | mtj | ah, sorry i might need to re-read the bug more ... ignore my comments ^ |
| 03:15 | drojf | i actually postponed agpl because we will have enough fun with bylaws and all the other stuff |
| 03:15 | eythian | yeah, that's probably better to do first |
| 03:16 | mtj | yep ) |
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| 03:29 | AmitG | hi all |
| 03:34 | mtj | hey AmitG |
| 03:35 | wizzyrea: ill make sure i signoff you patch ^ :0) | |
| 03:35 | wizzyrea | only if you think it's ok :) |
| 03:38 | dcook | Ok. Actually grabbing food now... |
| 03:40 | AmitG | heya mtj |
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| 04:49 | dcook | Hmm, might have found a rather interesting case of weirdness with $_... |
| 04:49 | * dcook | will kept you in tune :p |
| 04:49 | dcook | That's not how that expression goes... |
| 04:50 | * dcook | has a lack of chocolate so he doesn't care |
| 04:50 | dcook | About the phrase. Obviously care about the problem. |
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| 05:00 | dcook | Ah, no. I think it's just down to someone's bad idea.. |
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| 05:02 | * andreashm | waves |
| 05:02 | dcook | yo andreashm |
| 05:02 | Did you get my email? :) | |
| 05:02 | andreashm | yes I did. |
| 05:02 | read it a couple of hours ago when I was up trying to get my daugther to sleep. =) | |
| 05:03 | dcook | Your daughter sure doesn't like to sleep! |
| 05:03 | eythian | dcook: your email was that boring? |
| 05:03 | that it put her to sleep? | |
| 05:03 | dcook | eythian: It probably could've worked for that purpose, yes. ;) |
| 05:10 | andreashm | dcook: well, she does. but she's only five weeks old so she still sleeps very irregurarly. |
| 05:11 | dcook | Is she only five weeks? I remember you mentioning when she was born, but I thought it'd been longer than that.. |
| 05:12 | I'm glad it's only been 5 weeks since then for my sake, but I hope you're able to get some rest soon ;) | |
| 05:18 | andreashm | I try to sleep when I can! =) |
| 05:22 | except when I end up here instead. | |
| 05:23 | dcook | hehe |
| 05:23 | Apparently! | |
| 05:23 | wahanui | well, apparently is vitally important to librarians |
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| 06:42 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:42 | wahanui | hola, reiveune |
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| 07:00 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:00 | wahanui | hello, alex_a |
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| 07:33 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:37 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 08:20 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:20 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on July 07, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). |
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| 08:52 | drojf | morning #koha |
| 08:55 | magnuse | moin drojf |
| 08:55 | drojf | hei magnuse |
| 09:00 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 09:00 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 25.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on July 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
| 09:01 | drojf | the point of "it's permanently too hot inside my flat" was passed about two days ago |
| 09:02 | or it is just sunburn afterglow | |
| 09:04 | * liz | waves |
| 09:05 | drojf | hi liz |
| 09:07 | why the multiple accounts? office and home? | |
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| 09:09 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 09:09 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 27.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on July 07, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
| 09:11 | drojf | you win :) |
| 09:11 | hi cait | |
| 09:11 | cait | it already feels warmer than that |
| 09:12 | @wunder Berlin | |
| 09:12 | huginn` | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 09:12 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 09:12 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 25.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on July 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
| 09:12 | drojf | my flat feels like 40 |
| 09:12 | cait | mne is normally ok compared to 'the outside' |
| 09:26 | wizzyrea_ | 14044, ugh. |
| 09:26 | so many people have slashes in their addresses. | |
| 09:26 | cait | bug 14044 |
| 09:26 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14044 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Backslashes ( and possibly other characters ) break patron search |
| 09:27 | wizzyrea_ | gonna need a 3.18 version of that, I reckon. |
| 09:27 | idk if it will apply to 3.20 | |
| 09:29 | my case for it is the / and not the backslash though. Hangs on "Processing" every time | |
| 09:55 | * wizzyrea_ | goes away now |
| 09:55 | wizzyrea_ | farewell for now, friends. |
| 10:18 | gaetan_B | what are the plans to implement ebsco's rtac at the moment? i think this is part of the deal with the grant isn't it? |
| 10:22 | cait | gaetan_B: maybe ask at the meeting tomorrow - bag would know i guess |
| 10:22 | gaetan_B | ah, i'll be out for a meeting tomorrow unfortunately... |
| 10:22 | *another* meetin g;) | |
| 10:42 | kivilahtio | too bad we are travelling to Mikkeli tomorrow to have a peer-training seminar |
| 10:43 | gaetan_B: what do you mean with rtac? | |
| 10:44 | gaetan_B | kivilahtio: this is ebsco's rest api to get item related information live i think |
| 10:44 | kivilahtio | ahh |
| 10:44 | gaetan_B: I am working on it | |
| 10:44 | gaetan_B | availability and all |
| 10:44 | oooh | |
| 10:44 | kivilahtio | gaetan_B: but there are a lot of hurdles to overcome |
| 10:44 | gaetan_B: regarding authentication and testing | |
| 10:45 | gaetan_B | isn't it linked to the rest api ? |
| 10:45 | kivilahtio | gaetan_B: yes |
| 10:46 | to be able to make a smart authentication system for the REST API we need to take a new look at how we do authentication in Koha | |
| 10:46 | gaetan_B | but our rest api is not just ebsco's requirements applied to koha is it? |
| 10:46 | kivilahtio | gaetan_B: to be able to test the smart authentication system, we need to take a new look at how we do integration testing n Koha :) |
| 10:46 | gaetan_B: not for me it isn't | |
| 10:47 | gaetan_B | ok, i guess it's a prerequisite for us to have this rest api before we can build ebsco's rtac on top of it |
| 10:47 | kivilahtio | I thought the rest api is the rtac |
| 10:47 | * gaetan_B | is confused |
| 10:47 | kivilahtio | EBSCO didnät give any specific instructions on how to implement the interfaces |
| 10:48 | EBSCO just said we need to provide the necessary interfaces in whatever form we desire | |
| 10:48 | gaetan_B | what are the necessary interfaces ? |
| 10:48 | kivilahtio | I think as a community we decided to implemet them as REST API using Mojolicious |
| 10:48 | gaetan_B: cant remember | |
| 10:49 | I think most/all of them have been implemented by jajm | |
| 10:49 | gaetan_B | yes, i will check with him after lunch |
| 11:10 | cait | kivilahtio: we never acually made a real decision there |
| 11:10 | not in a meeting | |
| 11:10 | kivilahtio | cait: ok |
| 11:10 | cait | in the last dev meeting (second part) there was quite a discussion actually about it |
| 11:11 | kivilahtio | cait: yes there was |
| 11:11 | cait | i think it sounds like we are far overcomplicating things right now |
| 11:11 | kivilahtio | cait: I didn't get such an impression |
| 11:12 | cait | my personal opinion :) we will see how things work out |
| 11:13 | kivilahtio | cait: well I am not seeing it tomorrow |
| 11:14 | cait | tomorrow is not dev |
| 11:14 | or what do you mean? | |
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| 12:57 | ribasushi | just a heads up - I haven't forgotten to look at why d76c9f4850c9ba7605f2 failed, just a bunch of stuff made things drop down the todolist |
| 12:57 | I will likely look at it before end of the week | |
| 12:57 | ashimema: ^^ | |
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| 13:02 | ashimema | :) |
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| 13:44 | JRJML_Director | hi |
| 13:45 | is there anybody in there? | |
| 13:46 | nengard_demo | hola |
| 13:46 | wahanui | hello, nengard_demo |
| 13:47 | JRJML_Director | lots of people on here |
| 13:55 | xarragon | I have trouble using TestBuilder to insert multiple rows into the database, I use two separate 'build' calls. |
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| 13:58 | xarragon | But it only seems like I get one row in the database. |
| 13:58 | http://68b2779dc78921cf.paste.se/ | |
| 14:03 | cait | hm sorry, not sure how the testbuilder works |
| 14:03 | Joubu would know i guess or maybe tcohen | |
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| 14:18 | JRJML_Director | is anybody having trouble with getting email notices to send? |
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| 14:18 | tcohen | morning |
| 14:19 | cait | mornig tcohen |
| 14:19 | JRJML_Director: which version of Koha? | |
| 14:19 | wahanui | which version of Koha are you using? |
| 14:19 | tcohen | hi caitª1 |
| 14:19 | cait | in general it works alright for us :) |
| 14:19 | tcohen | same here |
| 14:19 | how did you set your MTA? | |
| 14:19 | cait | tcohen: how was the hackfest? :) |
| 14:19 | JRJML_Director | 3.18 |
| 14:19 | MTA? | |
| 14:19 | tcohen | it was really nice |
| 14:19 | cait | hm which exact 3.18? |
| 14:20 | mail transfer agent | |
| 14:20 | tcohen | but we didn't have many programmers |
| 14:20 | JRJML_Director: was it working and it stopped? | |
| 14:21 | JRJML_Director | It's never worked since I've been here and before |
| 14:21 | tcohen | so, do u have IT skills? |
| 14:22 | JRJML_Director | Postfix |
| 14:23 | i'm not sure which 3.18 | |
| 14:24 | cait | the easiest way to check your exact version is going to the about koha page in the staff client - and pasting the longer number if you are not sure - but it's probably not the problem here |
| 14:25 | JRJML_Director | 3.18.06.000 |
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| 14:26 | cait | i will have to leave it to tcohen to talk you through the mta setup - not one of my strong areas |
| 14:26 | gaetan_B | JRJML_Director: if you put some references in the cart on the opac, and try to send this to your email, do you get the message ? |
| 14:26 | cait | gaetan_B++ |
| 14:26 | gaetan_B | if you do, no problem with your mta, it's koha setup |
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| 14:27 | gaetan_B | otherwise check postfix |
| 14:30 | JRJML_Director | There was an error sending the cart. |
| 14:31 | cait | hm strange |
| 14:35 | gaetan_B | JRJML_Director: another place you can check is on user's account, someone who has late documents and should have received notices, there is a notices tab where you might see if notices have been generated and their status |
| 14:35 | but if you get this error message at the opac when sending the cart, then i'd say it's a system problem | |
| 14:35 | you should check with your it staff whether the server can send emails | |
| 14:36 | unfortunately email is really complicated and can get stuck at a lot of places | |
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| 14:42 | Ewaldosoft | Alguien escribe español? |
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| 14:47 | tcohen | hola Ewaldosoft |
| 14:48 | Ewaldosoft | Hola Tcohen soy nuevo. |
| 14:48 | tcohen | como va todo? |
| 14:48 | Ewaldosoft | he instalado koha para una la bibliocata de la universidad del Valle en Guatemala |
| 14:48 | tcohen | te reconozco, de la lista |
| 14:48 | (koha-es) | |
| 14:49 | Ewaldosoft | http://biblio.altiplano.uvg.edu.gt/ |
| 14:49 | tcohen | y como te ha ido con la instalación? |
| 14:49 | excelente :-D | |
| 14:49 | Ewaldosoft | pues hice una instalacion de liveDVD de Kumar Vimal |
| 14:49 | tcohen | oh |
| 14:49 | Ewaldosoft | de la version 3.16 |
| 14:50 | tcohen | ok |
| 14:50 | en que puedo ayudarte? | |
| 14:50 | Ewaldosoft | gracias por la ayuda que nos dan, pues por ahora todo esta bien solo estaba provando el chat |
| 14:51 | muchas gracias aqui estare por un buen rato y si necesitara ayuda les escribo muchas gracias. | |
| 14:51 | tcohen | aqui siempre estamos. |
| 14:51 | No es un helpdesk, pero compartimos inquietudes y nos ayudamos | |
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| 15:15 | JRJML_Director | i'm 100% satisfied with his explanations for it not being a problem with our mail server |
| 15:15 | our mail server works fine for everything except koha | |
| 15:20 | and when i put in a ticket for it i get no response from koha | |
| 15:23 | Koha techs told me it was PostFix. Local IT responded directly to them (weeks ago) that it must be the SMTP in Koha. | |
| 15:24 | and I kept posting, asking for any kind of information or updates from Koha and got zero response | |
| 15:24 | for one whole month | |
| 15:24 | tcohen | JRJML_Director: can you take a look at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/Sendmail.pm ? |
| 15:24 | %mailcfg = (...) | |
| 15:25 | i'm interested in the line | |
| 15:25 | 'smtp' => ... | |
| 15:26 | JRJML_Director | there is no such line |
| 15:27 | there is %mail = (...) | |
| 15:27 | and there is $mail{Smtp} = '...'; | |
| 15:27 | tcohen | what OS are you on? |
| 15:27 | JRJML_Director | Linux |
| 15:27 | tcohen | distribution? |
| 15:28 | JRJML_Director | multiple |
| 15:28 | pianohacker | multiple? |
| 15:28 | tcohen | koha, what linux distribution is Koha installed on |
| 15:28 | JRJML_Director | koha is installed on lubuntu i believe |
| 15:28 | tcohen | can u run lsb_release -a ? |
| 15:29 | paste the line that starts with | |
| 15:29 | Description: | |
| 15:29 | JRJML_Director | oh whoops |
| 15:30 | i found it o_O | |
| 15:30 | 'smtp' => [ qw( localhost ) ], | |
| 15:30 | tcohen | JRJML_Director: that sounds good no matter what it is |
| 15:30 | ah, yes | |
| 15:30 | ok, so your setup points to localhost | |
| 15:31 | can u run | |
| 15:31 | netstat -antp | grep 25? | |
| 15:32 | JRJML_Director | it lists several TCP ports |
| 15:32 | tcohen | does any of the lines end with /master? |
| 15:34 | JRJML_Director | no |
| 15:34 | tcohen | ps waux | grep postfix ? |
| 15:35 | it is possible that postfix is not running at all | |
| 15:38 | JRJML_Director | a bunch of data followed by the line --color=auto postfix |
| 15:38 | so postfix is running then | |
| 15:39 | tcohen | JRJML_Director: your Sendmail.pm file specifies that your Perl stuff is going to use localhost:25 for SMTP |
| 15:39 | and you don't have an SMTP running, on port 25 in localhost | |
| 15:39 | s/SMTP/SMTP server/ | |
| 15:40 | so, you can change Sendmail.pm to match your (infrastructure's) SMTP server | |
| 15:40 | or you can install/configure Postfix in the Koha host, to act as a smart host, sending emails through your infrastructure's SMTP server | |
| 15:41 | and that's all I can tell you because | |
| 15:41 | lunch time | |
| 15:41 | JRJML_Director | haha |
| 15:41 | tcohen | hope it helps |
| 15:41 | JRJML_Director | enjoy your lunch thanks |
| 15:41 | i hope it helps too | |
| 15:42 | tcohen | khall: can u remove the dependency for Cwd on bug 14467? Just strip it out and leave the PQA status |
| 15:42 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14467 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Security updates break some Koha plugins |
| 15:42 | khall | sure can! |
| 15:44 | tcohen:done. I just amended the patch rather than add a followup | |
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| 16:05 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:36 | pianohacker | tcohen: could I poke you real quick about the translation email I sent you and bgkriegel? |
| 16:38 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 17:36 | tcohen | hi pianohacker |
| 17:36 | pianohacker | hi tcohen |
| 17:36 | * cait | waves |
| 17:37 | pianohacker | hi cait :) |
| 17:37 | tcohen | i expected bgkriegel to answer your email, we've been talking about it during the hackfest |
| 17:37 | cait | hi :) |
| 17:38 | pianohacker | fair nuff |
| 17:38 | @seen bgkriegel | |
| 17:38 | huginn` | pianohacker: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 1 week, 6 days, 2 hours, 33 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> #info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel |
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| 17:38 | JRJML_Director | Ok so yeah. I changed the Sendmail.pm port from the default to the correct one and... |
| 17:39 | pianohacker | tcohen: I'll poke him a bit about it, then. Did you have any quick thoughts? |
| 17:39 | JRJML_Director | now the OPAC cart sends to my email address and produces no error |
| 17:39 | howevoer I'm not convinced that Patron Notices email is working | |
| 17:39 | cait | have you set up the cronjobs? |
| 17:39 | pianohacker | JRJML_Director: have you run process_message_queue.pl? |
| 17:39 | tcohen | pianohacker: i tend to agree with you, we don't have a strong guideline about that |
| 17:40 | pianohacker | ok, cool. Thanks, tcohen |
| 17:40 | tcohen | the only 'design' issue might be related to the fact that some js stuff is outside the translatable directory |
| 17:40 | JRJML_Director | no i have not |
| 17:40 | what directory? | |
| 17:41 | pianohacker | tcohen: yeah, and that should probably not be scanned for strings |
| 17:41 | JRJML_Director: did you install Koha from the debian package? | |
| 17:42 | tcohen | so, I wouldn't object if you splitted rancor in a sane way so the relevant (front-end) stuff can be picked by our current translation scripts |
| 17:43 | JRJML_Director | I believe that is correct |
| 17:44 | Yes Debian | |
| 17:45 | pianohacker | tcohen: it's currently split that way, actually. All the front-end stuff is stuffed into a .inc, with the back-end scripts in the non-language-specific js directory |
| 17:46 | tcohen | pianohacker: it sounds perfect then :-D |
| 17:46 | pianohacker | My goal is just to move the front-end JS from that .inc to language-specific .js files |
| 17:46 | because the .inc is long and ugly :) | |
| 17:47 | tcohen | khall: cool |
| 17:50 | pianohacker | JRJML_Director: you should then in theory be able to run /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/process_message_queue.pl, but be warned that there might be a lot of built-up emails |
| 17:50 | JRJML_Director | oh golly |
| 17:50 | can i dump first? | |
| 17:51 | or will all previously unsent emails be sent | |
| 17:52 | tcohen | JRJML_Director: it is a queue, if they are marked to be sent, they will |
| 17:52 | pianohacker | if you're totally okay with deleting all unsent emails, you can run /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/cleanup_database.pl -m 0 |
| 17:54 | JRJML_Director | grrr command not found |
| 17:54 | what program do i use to run .pl? | |
| 17:55 | pianohacker | well, that's odd. That should just work. Try: |
| 17:55 | ls -l /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/cleanup_database.pl | |
| 17:55 | tcohen | locate cleanup_database.pl |
| 17:55 | dev install ? | |
| 17:55 | wahanui | dev install is on, some cataloging already goin, so I guess I;m almost there |
| 17:57 | JRJML_Director | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root |
| 17:57 | i located it | |
| 17:57 | i'm looking at it | |
| 17:58 | pianohacker | JRJML_Director: was it in the location I mentioned, or someplace else? |
| 17:59 | JRJML_Director | in that exact location |
| 17:59 | i ssh'd into the server | |
| 17:59 | and i browsed to /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs | |
| 17:59 | and typed in cleanup_database.pl -m 0 | |
| 17:59 | and nothing | |
| 17:59 | pianohacker | ah, okay, sweet. Then you should be able to run that command, in theory at least |
| 17:59 | oh kk | |
| 18:00 | you'll have to run ./cleanup_database.pl -m 0 | |
| 18:00 | Or directly enter /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/cleanup_database.pl -m 0 | |
| 18:00 | JRJML_Director | xml file permission denied |
| 18:01 | koha-conf.xml denied, denied at Expat.pm | |
| 18:03 | tcohen | oleonard! |
| 18:03 | wahanui | oleonard is, like, not really here. He said so. He did |
| 18:03 | pianohacker | heh. |
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| 18:03 | JRJML_Director | ok i sudo'd this time |
| 18:04 | this time it gave me an even angrier error msg | |
| 18:04 | my linux knowledge is rudimentary sorry | |
| 18:05 | it keeps complaining about koha-conf.xml though | |
| 18:05 | pianohacker | no worries, no worries. What's the error? |
| 18:05 | JRJML_Director | unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 373. |
| 18:05 | it says that like 20 times | |
| 18:05 | tcohen | JRJML_Director: are you running it as root? |
| 18:06 | JRJML_Director | yes i am ssh into server as sysops |
| 18:06 | which is root | |
| 18:06 | tcohen | is it a packages install? |
| 18:06 | with a created instance? | |
| 18:06 | if you run koha-list --enabled you will know | |
| 18:07 | JRJML_Director | sudo koha-list --enabled renders the following: |
| 18:07 | appmtx | |
| 18:07 | tcohen | so it is a packages install |
| 18:08 | you should do | |
| 18:08 | sudo koha-shell appmtx | |
| 18:08 | and then run the command | |
| 18:08 | JRJML_Director | k |
| 18:08 | tcohen | or whatever you want to do for the desired instance |
| 18:08 | it will set the environment | |
| 18:08 | and run as the right user | |
| 18:08 | JRJML_Director | should i backup any files before running? |
| 18:08 | tcohen | khall: a quick question |
| 18:08 | JRJML_Director | k |
| 18:09 | tcohen | JRJML_Director: don't think so |
| 18:09 | pianohacker | tcohen: thanks, I was trying to figure that out on the fly :) |
| 18:09 | tcohen | heh, no worries |
| 18:09 | i messed a lot with those commands | |
| 18:09 | * tcohen | tried to provide tab-completion for them, so used |
| 18:10 | tcohen | khall: Joubu is not around and I need your opinion on bug 14427 |
| 18:10 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14427 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Passed QA , Use Koha::version() instead of C4::Context->KOHAVERSION |
| 18:10 | tcohen | ah, no |
| 18:10 | i meant bug 9942 | |
| 18:10 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9942 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Circulation module cannot anonymise if anonymity user is not set up correctly. |
| 18:10 | khall | wrong bug? |
| 18:10 | tcohen | you provided a followup |
| 18:10 | i was wondering if we should put that message on the about page instead | |
| 18:11 | I mean, I'm ok with the message | |
| 18:11 | what do u think? | |
| 18:11 | wahanui | do u think is ok to set a cookie name marcdocs_borrowernumber true or false? |
| 18:12 | khall | tcohen: I fear it would go unnoticed on the about page |
| 18:12 | tcohen | ok |
| 18:13 | my fear is that with this approach we could end pilling checks before every each page for every inconsistency we find we introduced | |
| 18:13 | nested 'if' everywhere | |
| 18:14 | maybe we should rethink how we tell the users about the sanity of the setup | |
| 18:14 | maybe something like the syspref changing log, but blinking, in red | |
| 18:14 | calculated on login or something similar | |
| 18:15 | git commit -s -m "Bug 9942: DBRev 3.21.00.013" | |
| 18:15 | oops | |
| 18:16 | JRJML_Director | ok i was able to run cleanup_database -m 0. it was strangely unsatisfying |
| 18:16 | pianohacker | tcohen: i think the humanmsg thing in red is an excellent idea |
| 18:17 | tcohen | pianohacker: thanks! we now need volunteers heh |
| 18:17 | pianohacker | JRJML_Director: okay. Then you should be able to trigger a patron notice then run process_message_queue.pl and verify that an email is correctly sent |
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| 18:23 | JRJML_Director | what's the easiest notice to trigger? |
| 18:23 | i've got a fake user for this purpose | |
| 18:23 | Fakey McFakington | |
| 18:24 | tcohen | heh |
| 18:25 | wnickc | checkin and checkout notices are easy for testing |
| 18:26 | tcohen | hi wnickc |
| 18:26 | hi rangi | |
| 18:26 | wnickc | hi tcohen |
| 18:28 | JRJML_Director | that's weird |
| 18:29 | i got the email from a previous test i did an hour ago | |
| 18:29 | but not the one i did just now lol | |
| 18:30 | pianohacker | *blink* well, stuff is at least working somewhat :) |
| 18:31 | drojf | evening |
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| 18:34 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14207: Improving circulation performance <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a1895474e01216cfd> / Bug 14135: Adds 'Free' to variabletypes in systempreferences.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]76bc15691c2663b5c> / Bug 14382: [QA Follow-up] Bad regex alarm <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=koha.git;a=commi |
| 18:34 | pianohacker | ah, right, the Local Use tab |
| 18:35 | my sworn enemy | |
| 18:37 | nengard_airport | heh |
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| 18:46 | S_Polka | Good morning from the west coast. I had a question, and was wondering whether it would be better to ask it in here or on the email group. Essentially, we have too many custom reports in our library, and were looking at trimming them down. However, we don't know which reports other people use. Is there a way to see when a report was last used, or how often it has been used? |
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| 18:48 | JRJML_Director | it appears to have sent the email properly. but when i run ./process_message_queue.pl it doesn't give me any entries. is that a good thing? |
| 18:49 | tcohen | JRJML_Director: have you tried --help? there might be a verbose mode |
| 18:50 | JRJML_Director | indeed it does appear to be the case |
| 19:00 | tcohen | matts_away: around? |
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| 19:07 | JRJML_Director | ok so |
| 19:07 | my receipts are being processed in the process_message_queue.pl I think because there's a LOT of print messages in there | |
| 19:07 | indradg | tcohen++ #bug 14135 |
| 19:07 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14135 minor, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Pushed to Master , Local Use syspref addition form missing variable type 'Free' |
| 19:08 | tcohen | well, its your work, not mine! |
| 19:09 | JRJML_Director | the good news, though, is that i finally received an email notice |
| 19:10 | my board will be very happy | |
| 19:10 | tcohen and pianohacker and everyone else who helped I thank you. I will be back soon for more shenanigans | |
| 19:11 | tcohen | JRJML_Director: congrats :-D, we like cookies BTW |
| 19:11 | LOL | |
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| 19:21 | indradg | i need a bit of help with notices and slips. i was earlier at a library today where they have like 12 branches. they had setup email notices for all patron categories. the "All libraries" drop down was selected. I tried to add sms messaging. I copied the notice over to a specific branch. but in the "Notices" tab of the patron saw something peculiar... the same template as the email was being used for sms. |
| 19:21 | its on 3.18.3 | |
| 19:21 | what am I missing here? | |
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| 19:28 | indradg | pianohacker any clue what I'm missing here ^^^ |
| 19:34 | pianohacker | indradg: not sure |
| 19:34 | barton: ^ ? | |
| 19:34 | wahanui | hmmm... ^ is what I think too |
| 19:35 | barton | hmm. |
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| 19:37 | barton | indradg: what type of notices are we talking about? overdue? advanced? hold? |
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| 19:54 | barton | indradg: my experience with notices in general is that the code is not well centralized -- message transport types is newer than most of the other features in notices, so it's more likely to work in a regular fashion, but you'll probably still need to look at the code in question: overdue_notices.pl, advanced_notices.pl etc. http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Specific_Markup should at least point you to th |
| 19:57 | I've spent a fair amout of time reading through the code. I don't pretend to understand all of it, but I might be able to assist if you tell me the letter code in question. | |
| 19:58 | * barton | realizes that he has used the phrase 'in question' quite a lot there. |
| 19:58 | barton | :-) |
| 19:59 | rangi | morning |
| 20:04 | cait | @seen Joubu |
| 20:04 | huginn` | cait: Joubu was last seen in #koha 5 days, 5 hours, 46 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <Joubu> @later tell tcohen see bugs 11620 and 11194, should we ask for the changes in record.abs? |
| 20:04 | cait | morning rangi |
| 20:07 | pianohacker | hi rangi |
| 20:08 | * magnuse | shouts "kia ora rangi", then falls asleep |
| 20:09 | rangi | heh |
| 20:09 | * barton | misses the joke, but still wonders if "koha ora rangi" would be appropriate. |
| 20:10 | rangi | wouldn't really make sense |
| 20:11 | barton | rangi: like I said, I missed the joke -- "kia ora rangi" didn't mkae sense to me either. |
| 20:12 | indradg | barton: CHECKIN and CHECKOUT |
| 20:13 | cait | indradg: it might be thatmultiple transport types are not fully implemented there |
| 20:13 | i'd read the code and file a bug if it doesn't work like you expect | |
| 20:14 | barton | nod -- you'll want to look in C4/Circulation.pm and C4::Message |
| 20:15 | er. C4/Message.pm | |
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| 20:30 | indradg | cait: thanks will do |
| 20:32 | barton: thanks... i know the files... just wanted to find out from you guys if I was missing out on something silly | |
| 20:32 | barton | I doubt it. |
| 20:43 | indradg: take a look at http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ea1;hb=HEAD#l3287 | |
| 20:44 | indradg | barton will do |
| 20:48 | hmmm | |
| 20:49 | * indradg | is looking at the code barton pointed to |
| 21:09 | rangi | heatherH++ #undoing some of Paul A's FUD |
| 21:10 | cait | yeah she is pretty great |
| 21:11 | bag | totally :) |
| 21:11 | drojf | you should honour 58 years of experience |
| 21:11 | bag | I sent her a little follow up saying thanks h2 |
| 21:11 | I met h2 at ALA last weekend - she’s awesome | |
| 21:12 | cait | i saw her tweets - she seems very enthusiastic :) |
| 21:12 | about the new features and all, that's really good to read | |
| 21:17 | drojf | looks like nz gets the list mails earlier too. future people… |
| 21:17 | cait | hm? |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | possibly the list goes in order of subscription |
| 21:18 | I think someone told me that once. Or alphabetic... or... | |
| 21:18 | drojf | oh |
| 21:18 | wizzyrea | there's some order to it. |
| 21:18 | some people get theirs first. :) | |
| 21:18 | or earlier. | |
| 21:18 | drojf | yeah makes sense |
| 21:18 | never thought about it | |
| 21:19 | cait | drojf: ... or you are just slow ;P |
| 21:19 | wizzyrea | hmpf. |
| 21:19 | drojf | that too |
| 21:19 | so can we have xapian in koha then? | |
| 21:20 | cait | what is it even? |
| 21:20 | drojf | future rangi says its neat so i want it now :) |
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| 21:21 | drojf | maybe the fork uses it now :P |
| 21:22 | barton | cait: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xapian |
| 21:22 | cait | not sure listening to future rangi is safe :P |
| 21:23 | barton | heh. |
| 21:23 | cait | oooh rain |
| 21:23 | * cait | does a happy dance |
| 21:23 | cait | maybe i can finally sleep again tonight |
| 21:24 | barton | cait -- fwiw, I'm not sure that listening to future *anybody* is particularly safe. |
| 21:24 | drojf | we had hours of thunderstorms :) |
| 21:24 | cait | most of the clouds on the radar missed us... by quite a bit |
| 21:24 | but it seems now it's here :) | |
| 21:24 | barton | we just had a nice little shower here -- right as cait was saying 'oooh rain'. |
| 21:24 | cait | or not |
| 21:24 | it just stopped again. | |
| 21:25 | barton | cait -- you're not in Louisville, KY, are you? ;-) |
| 21:25 | cait | not quite |
| 21:25 | barton | yeah, I would have been very surprised if you'd said yes... |
| 21:25 | cait | looking at the rain radar there are only tiny rain clouds heading in our direction an dmost probbly going to miss us *sighs* |
| 21:26 | very disappointing | |
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| 21:28 | tcohen | hi |
| 21:31 | cait | hi tcohen |
| 21:31 | eythian | hi |
| 21:31 | wahanui | what's up, eythian |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | keke |
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| 21:36 | drojf | good night #koha |
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| 21:46 | tcohen | rangi: heh |
| 21:51 | eythian | cait: why did you add me to bug 14493? |
| 21:51 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14493 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , export_borrowers.pl - Export patron attributes |
| 21:51 | cait | i didn't mean to |
| 21:51 | i just changed it to command line tool | |
| 21:51 | eythian | ah right, that'll do it |
| 21:51 | cait | ... and it seems the right category :) |
| 21:51 | eythian | to me it just showed up as you adding me as a CC, not changing the category :) |
| 21:57 | cait | nope |
| 21:57 | :) | |
| 22:17 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 22:17 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on July 08, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:17 | eythian | that windchill factor is new |
| 22:18 | wizzyrea | br. |
| 22:19 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 22:19 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 28.0°C (12:00 AM CEST on July 08, 2015). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:19 | cait | rain... nope |
| 22:20 | eythian | 28. That's a bit much. |
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| 23:23 | wizzyrea | meeting? |
| 23:23 | wahanui | meeting is in two days, i thought was tomorrow. plenty of time then |
| 23:24 | wizzyrea | irc meeting? |
| 23:24 | hrmph. | |
| 23:25 | eythian | Thursday morning innit? |
| 23:25 | wizzyrea | must be :) |
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