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| 02:49 | dcook | I love the "Select all sample data" link... |
| 02:51 | wizzyrea | cdickinson: you are wondering what I'm giggling about, just a warning, it's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]ded&v=mVHJ6OwTYWc |
| 02:54 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:54 | * dcook | giggles as well |
| 02:54 | wizzyrea | I am still shaking my head. |
| 02:54 | that is totally my new rickroll. | |
| 02:54 | dcook | Hehe |
| 02:55 | Ok, it's starting to make my head want to explode | |
| 02:55 | wizzyrea | that makes it PERFECT. |
| 02:55 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:57 | cdickinson | reminds me of when I watch videos of people playing air horn pranks at people on golf courses |
| 02:57 | man, those are gold | |
| 02:58 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
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| 04:21 | wizzyrea | eythian++ |
| 04:21 | eythian | I just got a reply: |
| 04:22 | > I want to change the password of Koha Admin. > Let me know the method. | |
| 04:22 | rangi | heh |
| 04:22 | eythian | I do not see how that is in any way related. |
| 04:22 | wizzyrea | if it's coming from someone who purports to be a Koha vendor, that isn't exactly an endorsement of their skills. |
| 04:22 | eythian | no, it's not |
| 04:22 | (that would be funnier) | |
| 04:23 | * wizzyrea | worries that their nonsense is going to ruin it for everyone. |
| 04:24 | wizzyrea | as a self-curated yellow pages is almost sure to devolve into madness. |
| 04:24 | but I might be willing to let them do it. | |
| 04:24 | AmitG | heya wizzyrea |
| 04:24 | wahanui | wizzyrea doesn't exist anymore |
| 04:24 | eythian | I don't think it was that |
| 04:25 | wizzyrea | hallo |
| 04:25 | eythian | I think it was just an unrelated question |
| 04:25 | wizzyrea | oh, no that wasn't directly linked logically to the email response you got |
| 04:26 | eythian | oh, so it was like the email response I got then :) |
| 04:26 | wizzyrea | more to the notion that if there is a lot of squabbling on the list I might just remove the list entirely from the website and put it on the wiki, for vendors to self curate. |
| 04:27 | dcook | That might lead to even more of a storm though :/ |
| 04:28 | * dcook | isn't entirely sure what we're talking about but adds 2 cents as always |
| 04:28 | rangi | dcook: no one will see it |
| 04:28 | and it wont clog up the list | |
| 04:28 | wizzyrea | the recent ... I don't even know how to describe what's going on on the email list as relates to the vendor listings |
| 04:29 | fracas? | |
| 04:30 | dcook | Hmm, I guess I haven't looked at the list in a little while.. |
| 04:50 | Hmm.. | |
| 04:50 | my ( $year, $month, $day ) = split ',', $today_iso; # FIXME: iso dates don't have commas | |
| 04:50 | * dcook | wonders how that playso ut |
| 04:50 | dcook | plays out* |
| 04:51 | eythian | that seems like a strange thing to do |
| 04:52 | dcook | Agreed |
| 04:52 | Apparently you can put "YYYY-MM-DD" in as the default value in a MARC framework? | |
| 04:53 | And it's supposed to get transformed into the actual year, month, and day | |
| 04:54 | eythian | oh, nofty |
| 04:54 | *nifty | |
| 04:54 | dcook | Yeah, I'd never heard of that before |
| 04:54 | Not sure if it actually works | |
| 04:54 | Might quickly check.. | |
| 04:55 | Hmm yep | |
| 04:55 | Looks like it does | |
| 04:55 | That's neat | |
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| 05:20 | dcook | Oh wow... that was a lot of emails.. |
| 05:29 | "< robin> to be honest, I think if you mention Koha and Perl, your CV could say your hobbies include puppy-kitten cage-fights, and you'd be snapped up :)" | |
| 05:29 | Random dashboard quote :) | |
| 05:29 | eythian | haha |
| 05:31 | arg, I ordered something in the weekend, and the guy hasn't even shipped it yet, all I got was an email in reply to my "where is is already" query asking to show I was licensed for it (which I am.) | |
| 05:32 | (whereas all the other things I ordered in the weekend arrived already, but are useless until the main bit shows up.) | |
| 05:33 | dcook | :( |
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| 06:25 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 06:29 | AmitG | hi indradg |
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| 06:36 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:36 | indradg | hi all |
| 06:44 | @seen magnuse | |
| 06:44 | huginn` | indradg: magnuse was last seen in #koha 18 minutes and 34 seconds ago: * magnuse waves |
| 06:45 | indradg | hi magnuse, AmitG, wizzyrea, dcook, reiveune |
| 06:45 | reiveune | hi :) |
| 06:48 | AmitG | hi reivenue |
| 06:48 | @seen alex | |
| 06:48 | huginn` | AmitG: I have not seen alex. |
| 06:48 | AmitG | @seen alex_a |
| 06:48 | huginn` | AmitG: alex_a was last seen in #koha 23 hours, 41 minutes, and 1 second ago: <alex_a> AmitG: yep |
| 06:52 | magnuse | hiya indradg et al |
| 06:52 | @wunder boo | |
| 06:52 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (7:50 AM CEST on June 30, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:53 | indradg | magnuse: you recently wrote up some sms::send driver for your local providers... didn't you? |
| 06:54 | magnuse | nah, someone else wrote it (for Viktor), but i am the one running it on my server |
| 06:56 | indradg: https://github.com/eskaaren/SMS-Send-Telenor | |
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| 06:57 | indradg | aha! i remembered Viktor posting about it |
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| 06:58 | indradg | magnuse: a driver I wrote SMS::Send::IN::Unicel is working perfectly fine when I use it from any other perl script. but not from within Koha. |
| 06:59 | * indradg | scratching head on how to debug it |
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| 06:59 | Viktor | True indradg. I wrote about it on facebook. It was Eivin who wrote the driver and Magnuse who installed and helped with getting it configured and working on the servers. |
| 07:00 | indradg | yes |
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| 07:01 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:03 | AmitG | hi alex_A |
| 07:03 | indradg | good morning alex_a |
| 07:10 | magnuse | indradg: firewall issues? or we had something similar, because the provider had messed up the ip address that we were supposed to be able to send from |
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| 07:21 | indradg | magnuse: nope.. this is happening on the local machines, from which I can send out SMSes just fine |
| 07:21 | there are no errors in the intranet-error.log | |
| 07:21 | but against the user's Notices tab, it is "failed" | |
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| 07:30 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:31 | kivilahtio | hjello |
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| 07:34 | drojf | morning |
| 07:35 | indradg | hi gaetan_B kivilahtio drojf! |
| 07:35 | * indradg | waves |
| 07:35 | drojf | hi indradg |
| 07:37 | kivilahtio | Oh man, there is no end for hte things that need refactoring |
| 07:37 | AmitG | hi gaetan_B drojf |
| 07:38 | kivilahtio | and when I think of making tests. I always end up with no way of setting up test context for permissions |
| 07:38 | dcook | later y'all |
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| 07:39 | kivilahtio | we should have a Koha::Permissions-library for CRUD:ing Koha permissions |
| 07:39 | like an easy to use interface for setting them up | |
| 07:40 | If I write one, nobody will sign it off :( | |
| 07:41 | drojf | hi AmitG. sorry got disconnected |
| 07:44 | magnuse | kivilahtio: try it, you might be pleasantly surprised :-) |
| 07:44 | kivilahtio | magnuse: ok. I will make a nice Koha::Permission library to CRUd permissions in a more modern and nice way |
| 07:44 | magnuse: but how would I test it? | |
| 07:45 | with Cucumber? which is experimental? | |
| 07:45 | or selenium? | |
| 07:45 | wahanui | rumour has it selenium is more things like "perform this action, ensure that this is the result" |
| 07:45 | kivilahtio | magnuse: I could just do unit test to test the core libraries |
| 07:45 | magnuse | kivilahtio: you could just do regular unit tests? |
| 07:45 | gaetan_B | kivilahtio: there are a lot of user requests for easier way to manage permissions actually |
| 07:45 | chances are you would get some testers ;) | |
| 07:46 | magnuse | gaetan_B: like group permissions? |
| 07:46 | kivilahtio | gaetan_B: What I am hoping to do is enable creating permissions for test contexts |
| 07:46 | like refactor the permission management interface | |
| 07:46 | gaetan_B | magnuse: like having roles |
| 07:46 | kivilahtio | well I will start iwth just creating a library to manage permissions |
| 07:46 | gaetan_B | (which might not be what kivilahtio had in mind at all) |
| 07:46 | magnuse | so you could create a group/role called cataloguers and give all of them the same permissions |
| 07:46 | kivilahtio | gaetan_B: but now that you mentioned roles, I will make the library thinking of group permissions |
| 07:46 | gaetan_B: we have the same need | |
| 07:47 | gaetan_B | any large library will stumble on this issue indeed |
| 07:47 | kivilahtio | gaetan_B: I have a TON of experimental stuff and I cannot bear it anymore. Something needs to move to master so I can progress. |
| 07:47 | and If I write the library which is easy to consume from a RESTful perspective, I'd hate for it to go stale :( | |
| 07:48 | gaetan_B: I'll will draw a schematic of it. I will keep you and magnuse posted. | |
| 07:48 | gaetan_B | ok :) |
| 07:56 | magnuse | great |
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| 08:43 | cait | kivilahtio: koha::object and the new testbuilder maybe |
| 08:43 | kivilahtio | cait: it doesnät set the borrowers.flags |
| 08:43 | cait | i mean as a starting point |
| 08:44 | both are still quite new, so I wnated to mention them :) | |
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| 10:28 | mtj | hey #koha |
| 10:29 | aah... i see Amit pinged me before - but hes not about | |
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| 10:32 | magnuse | mtj: there he is :-) |
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| 11:03 | kivilahtio | magnuse: gaetan_B: https://docs.google.com/drawin[…]/edit?usp=sharing |
| 11:03 | khall | is anyone aware of the reserveconstraints table actually doing anything? As far as I'm aware it's been vestigial for years. Can anyone dispute this? |
| 11:04 | kivilahtio | I am fleshing out the Koha::Permission, or Koha::Auth::Permission namespace |
| 11:08 | mtj | khall: ask rangi about that one ^ |
| 11:08 | khall | good idea |
| 11:09 | mtj | i think it might well be vestigial now? |
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| 11:19 | cait | khall: i think it is to be removed - there is a bug somewhere already |
| 11:19 | khall: my guess is it has to do with the broken serial holds without items feature | |
| 11:20 | because we used to have different holds types | |
| 11:20 | and holds on issues without items... but that's been broken before 3.2 i think? | |
| 11:20 | khall | it definitely seems to be causing problems for us |
| 11:21 | cait: it's bug 9809 | |
| 11:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9809 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Get rid of reserveconstraints |
| 11:22 | cait | khall: hm i have onyl seen it empty |
| 11:22 | are your problems realted to serial records? | |
| 11:22 | khall | same for me |
| 11:22 | cait: nope, our problem is related to opac-based holds | |
| 11:22 | cait | hm |
| 11:22 | can you describe? | |
| 11:22 | khall | they aren't being trapped when checked in at the destination library |
| 11:23 | instead, Koha just says to send the item back to the home library | |
| 11:23 | cait | hm |
| 11:23 | but why do yout hink reserveconstraint is to blame? | |
| 11:23 | khall | If I remove the reserveconstraints for the _Findgroupreserve query they get picked up |
| 11:23 | s/for/from/ | |
| 11:23 | cait | hm |
| 11:23 | werid | |
| 11:23 | because that's been there forever | |
| 11:23 | khall | yeah, never seen anything like it before |
| 11:24 | I feel like I haven't found the smoking gun yet | |
| 11:24 | cait | clues :) |
| 11:24 | khall | but the problem is the first two queries are full joins with reserveconstraints so they always fail |
| 11:24 | cait | what i know is: you really want to keep RoutingListAddReserves turned off |
| 11:25 | because that will create bad holds data | |
| 11:25 | it's a sadly broken feature | |
| 11:25 | and it can kill the ajaxy holds tables ando ther display things | |
| 11:25 | khall | that's no good! |
| 11:25 | cait | ideally i'd like to see it revived... not removed tho :( |
| 11:25 | 'star' routing was cool when i first tested koha | |
| 11:26 | bug 2894 | |
| 11:26 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2894 major, P3, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Routing list holds are broken |
| 11:27 | cait | same for RenewSerialAddsSuggestion - also broken |
| 11:40 | khall: where do you see the full join? | |
| 11:41 | khall | I was recalling it wrong, the full join is for the holds queue stuff |
| 11:41 | cait | i think it should be ok in FindGroup... |
| 11:41 | khall | but still the reserve constaint stuff is causing the last query to not pick up the hold for some reason |
| 11:41 | even though it's a left join | |
| 11:42 | cait | hmmmmmm |
| 11:43 | do you have a reserves.contrainttype != a? | |
| 11:43 | in your reserves table? | |
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| 12:45 | Dyrcona | Kia ora, #koha! |
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| 12:57 | khall | @later tell Joubu I submitted a completed patch set for bug 9809 if you would sign off on it |
| 12:57 | huginn` | khall: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:57 | khall | cait ^ |
| 13:01 | magnuse | bug 9809 |
| 13:01 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9809 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Get rid of reserveconstraints |
| 13:02 | khall | anyone can sign off on it. If someone else does Joubu would be able to qa it |
| 13:09 | tcohen | morning! |
| 13:13 | kivilahtio | tcohen: evening |
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| 13:34 | tcohen | we should remove the "Paid support companies" section |
| 13:45 | indradg | tcohen +1 |
| 13:46 | cait | we should move it to the wiki? |
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| 13:53 | indradg | or (temporarily) drop India from the list of countries due to increased compliants |
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| 16:00 | indradg | @wunder Kolkata |
| 16:00 | huginn` | indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 29.0°C (9:20 PM IST on June 30, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 16:15 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 16:15 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 26.0°C (5:50 PM CEST on June 30, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 16:15 | drojf | close ;) |
| 16:15 | nengard | @wunder 78754 |
| 16:15 | huginn` | nengard: The current temperature in Four Seasons, Austin, Texas is 30.3°C (11:15 AM CDT on June 30, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 16:15 | drojf | ugh |
| 16:15 | nengard | heh |
| 16:15 | LOVE IT :) hehe | |
| 16:15 | well - not the clouds ... | |
| 16:15 | drojf | keep it :D |
| 16:16 | we'll have 36 on saturday, some >40° Oo | |
| 16:16 | cait | thankfully i am on vacation from thursday on and can hide :P |
| 16:16 | nengard | hehe |
| 16:17 | summer is my fav time of year | |
| 16:17 | drojf | i visited my old work place. i forgot how nice the air condition there is |
| 16:17 | i may go visit more often ;) | |
| 16:17 | nengard | hehe |
| 16:22 | drojf | why would i get 082 when cataloguing in a certain framework, but not when editing said framework? |
| 16:22 | nengard | if it's on the record when it was loaded in |
| 16:22 | i think | |
| 16:23 | drojf | but it is a new record :) |
| 16:23 | nengard | hmmmm |
| 16:23 | .... i don't know :( | |
| 16:24 | pianohacker | drojf: that's really odd. You sure it's not just in the wrong place? The sorting can be funky, try a search |
| 16:26 | drojf | it's in the fast add framework too. choose new record, fast add framework, there is 082. try to edit the fast add framework, it's not there |
| 16:31 | pianohacker | drojf: is the underlying DB stuff okay? |
| 16:31 | mysql> select * from marc_tag_structure where frameworkcode = '' AND tagfield like '08%'; | |
| 16:32 | (replacing the frameworkcode with the correct one, of course) | |
| 16:32 | drojf | i installed it today, not much time to break :D |
| 16:32 | but maybe its an error in the german translation | |
| 16:34 | not in the db | |
| 16:34 | how does it come up in cataloguing then? :D | |
| 16:34 | pianohacker | is it in the default framework? |
| 16:35 | drojf | yes |
| 16:36 | interesting | |
| 16:36 | wahanui | hmmm... interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 16:37 | pianohacker | drojf: there might be some kind of fallback mechanism, might be worth changing the description in the default framework and seeing if the changes show up in the other framework. |
| 16:39 | drojf | actually, it has no description in the cataloguing window |
| 16:39 | pianohacker | what the crap? |
| 16:39 | what version? | |
| 16:39 | wahanui | version is always noted in a comment on top |
| 16:40 | pianohacker | huh, that was an actually helpful chatbot comment |
| 16:40 | drojf | there is no 082 field without description in the whole table |
| 16:40 | 3.18.latest 8 or what it is | |
| 16:41 | pianohacker | every time I dive into addbiblio I'm reminded how much I want it to die a horrible death |
| 16:41 | drojf | lol |
| 16:42 | not diving anywhere anymore today. will add 082, delete it and see what happens | |
| 16:43 | at least it took the name of the added one | |
| 16:44 | aaaand it's gone | |
| 16:44 | spooky ghost field | |
| 16:45 | 'someone' should check that. but not me :P at least not today | |
| 16:46 | would be interesting to know what it does if you use the ghost field to enter data | |
| 16:50 | pianohacker | drojf: you say interesting, I hear catalogers running screaming into the night |
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| 16:54 | drojf | it's in marc21_fastadd_framework.sql. it adds 082 subfields, but not the containing 082 field |
| 16:55 | so the question is, do we want the field added or the subfields removed? | |
| 16:59 | bug 14478 | |
| 16:59 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14478 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Fast Add Framework contains no 082 field but 082 subfields |
| 17:00 | drojf | will fix it in the next days if nobody does it earlier |
| 17:07 | lol. can edit advanced constraints for all subfields of 100, but not t. just won't open | |
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| 17:12 | drojf | and setting subfields in 245 to collapsed has no effect, but it does work for other fields |
| 17:14 | cait | hm try removing the mandatory on a? |
| 17:15 | drojf | still does not work |
| 17:17 | ah | |
| 17:17 | removing mandatory for 245 (field level) worked | |
| 17:17 | cait | 2 points! |
| 17:17 | ok... 1 point because it was on field level :P | |
| 17:18 | bye all :) | |
| 17:18 | drojf | if you also fix the bug ;) |
| 17:18 | cait++ | |
| 17:18 | bye cait | |
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| 17:19 | drojf | 1,5 points, its also broken if i only use mandatory for a |
| 17:20 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 17:54 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 17:56 | drojf | hei magnuse |
| 17:58 | magnuse | moin drojf |
| 17:58 | ...and nengard | |
| 17:58 | ...and sophie_m | |
| 17:58 | sophie_m | bonsoir magnuse |
| 17:58 | nengard | hola all |
| 17:59 | magnuse | :-) |
| 18:03 | drojf | there i wondered if i had not tested something about default indicators a long time ago, and then i found i actually tried to save somebody's (then 2,5 year old) patch 2,5 years ago. |
| 18:03 | oh no it was only 1,5 years old back then ;) | |
| 18:10 | magnuse | drojf: time flies... |
| 18:10 | drojf | and i still don't have default indicators :/ |
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| 18:22 | magnuse | :-( |
| 18:23 | cait | the bug is still there i think |
| 18:23 | drojf | bug 4888 |
| 18:23 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4888 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, salva, Failed QA , pre-set of field indicators value |
| 18:24 | drojf | but it did not do what i am looking for, at least that is what i wrote there |
| 18:26 | magnuse | maybe it does now? :-) |
| 18:26 | drojf | nobody added code, so that would be weird :D |
| 18:28 | magnuse | drojf: your expectations could have changed :-) |
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| 18:28 | magnuse | kia ora tcohen |
| 18:30 | drojf | magnuse: no, they haven't :D |
| 18:30 | magnuse | dang! :-) |
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| 18:33 | tcohen | hi guys |
| 18:33 | pianohacker | hi tcohen :) |
| 18:37 | hahaha wow | |
| 18:39 | magnuse | pianohacker: you scared him away ;-) |
| 18:40 | pianohacker | apparently! |
| 18:40 | wahanui | i heard apparently was vitally important to librarians |
| 18:40 | pianohacker | I did send him and bgkriegel a long email about bug 4503 |
| 18:40 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4503 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Javascript files in js directory are not translated |
| 18:42 | magnuse | pianohacker: ah, harrasment... no wonder he ran when he spotted you |
| 18:43 | pianohacker | exactly, can't blame him |
| 18:43 | magnuse | nope |
| 18:44 | kia ora talljoy! | |
| 18:44 | talljoy | ola magnuse! |
| 18:44 | i hear you are interested in bibframe. true? | |
| 18:44 | or 'linked data' using SPARQL | |
| 18:44 | magnuse | and here i was, going to ask if there are any other blockers than bug 14440 before putting 3.20.1 in production |
| 18:44 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14440 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to Stable , get_template_and_user can not have an empty template_name |
| 18:45 | magnuse | talljoy: yeah, i am interested in the latter. i fear bibframe is bit premature, and likely to put libraries in a "special corner", once again |
| 18:45 | talljoy | could be. librarians are their own worst enemies sometimes |
| 18:46 | magnuse | "we have unique and special needs" |
| 18:46 | so true! | |
| 18:46 | talljoy | are you doing anything with SPARQL anything you are doing? |
| 18:46 | magnuse | well, not much |
| 18:47 | i did make a tiny prototype of enhancing the koha opac with sparql queries a year or two back | |
| 18:47 | deichman/oslo public library are doing some awesome stuff, though | |
| 18:47 | talljoy | that would be interesting to see. i may ask you about that in some time. |
| 18:48 | I need to some research on this. I've just started scratching the surface. | |
| 18:48 | magnuse | they are going to have rdf as the master data format and then dumb it down to marc so things like koha will have something to chew on |
| 18:48 | talljoy | I've attended a conference about it, and I was fascinated by it. |
| 18:48 | magnuse | let me find you a couple links |
| 18:48 | talljoy | great! |
| 18:49 | magnuse | talljoy: http://digital.deichman.no/blo[…]-metadata-format/ + http://digital.deichman.no/blo[…]o-public-library/ + http://digital.deichman.no/blo[…]o-public-library/ |
| 18:49 | * talljoy | hopes there is an english interface. my norwegian is ..non existent. |
| 18:50 | talljoy | thanks magnuse!! |
| 18:50 | magnuse | i know they are right in the middle of figuring out all the thorny issues now, so they might have something to show in the fall |
| 18:50 | also, libris in sweden are grappling with these issues too | |
| 18:50 | talljoy | that timing would be good for me. I should have time to dedicate to this in October. |
| 18:50 | ah...sweden. those are my people. | |
| 18:50 | reiveune | bye |
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| 18:51 | magnuse | talljoy: sounds perfect |
| 18:51 | talljoy | :-D |
| 18:51 | i feel a road trip coming on! Sweden in October isn't too cold is it? | |
| 18:51 | lol | |
| 18:51 | magnuse | talljoy: they have some projects here: https://github.com/libris/ not shure if the blog anywhere |
| 18:52 | talljoy: well, it is a very unpredictable time of year, i think | |
| 18:52 | but probbly not too cld | |
| 18:52 | talljoy | well to be honest anything under 20 C is too cold for me. |
| 18:52 | pianohacker | texan ;) |
| 18:52 | talljoy | so, safe to say whatever the temp, I will find it freezing! |
| 18:52 | not for much longer pianohacker | |
| 18:52 | pianohacker | well, true |
| 18:52 | talljoy | i have one foot out into New Mexico. |
| 18:53 | living in the desert = heaven | |
| 18:53 | magnuse | hehe, you should come in july then, then there is a small chance of not freezing |
| 18:53 | @wunder boo | |
| 18:53 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (8:20 PM CEST on June 30, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:54 | talljoy | magnuse the kohacon2012 in scotland was the coldest "summer" i ever experienced. |
| 18:54 | and it was in June or July. it was so darn cold! | |
| 18:54 | it was about 17-20 celsius. | |
| 18:54 | i must be part reptilian. | |
| 18:54 | need to sun to warm up. | |
| 18:55 | okay, got a call to attend. later all | |
| 18:59 | magnuse | @later tell talljoy also, you might want to time a trip to europe so you can attend the SWIB conference http://swib.org/ (the website for this years event, but they are yearly somewhere in germany, around the end of november) |
| 18:59 | huginn` | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:09 | * magnuse | goes ahead and upgrades customers to 3.20.1 |
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| 21:10 | wizzyrea | hi' |
| 21:10 | * cait | waves |
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| 21:37 | wizzyrea | talljoy_phone: you'd die in wellington. |
| 21:39 | ibeardslee | s/die/be preserved in a frozen state/ |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | well if 20C is cold... |
| 22:07 | eythian | hi |
| 22:07 | wahanui | niihau, eythian |
| 22:22 | talljoy | i totally would wizzyrea |
| 22:22 | which is why i'm glad i'm in the desert! | |
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| 22:23 | wizzyrea | I am soooo glad to only see 30C once a year or so. |
| 22:23 | talljoy | ibeardslee i will dessicate before freezing. |
| 22:23 | that's when i start to thaw out. and put away the sweaters. ;-) | |
| 22:23 | wizzyrea | (the sun is really intense though, so it often feels warmer than it actually is) |
| 22:24 | talljoy | yes, true. here (in New Mexico currently) it can be hot as blazes, but in the shade, it feels so much cooler. |
| 22:24 | low humidity and all that | |
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| 23:19 | the43 | Hi! |
| 23:20 | how activate sendmail in koha? | |
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| 23:49 | eythian | leap second in ~10 minutes, I hope you all have your civil defence kits ready for the fall of civilisation! |
| 23:49 | wizzyrea | I have plasters, does that count? |
| 23:50 | eythian | probably |
| 23:50 | wahanui | probably is not, but i do not know another way |
| 23:56 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:57 | I actually have some work that does fall down to the second... I'm intrigued to see how that goes | |
| 23:57 | The only rations I have are... | |
| 23:57 | white chocolate with raspberry and balsamic | |
| 23:57 | * dcook | might be mowing his way through his rations pretty quickly atm |
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