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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 00:01 | eythian | https://owncloud.kallisti.net.[…]s/OdB8G0XEfNIieWp <-- my hackrf blue has arrived :D |
| 00:01 | mtompset | @later tell tcohen Never mind, that whole Search.t mess... I can't seem to figure it out. Plus, it's not my fault. :) |
| 00:01 | huginn` | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:04 | mtompset | eythian: What do you plan on doing with it? :) |
| 00:04 | eythian | I don't know yet |
| 00:07 | dcook | Ahhh |
| 00:07 | Were you using one of these at Kiwicon, eythian? | |
| 00:07 | eythian | dcook: no, this just arrived. The one I had at kiwicon was a lot cheaper and simpler, also it could only receive, this can transmit |
| 00:09 | wizzyrea | eythian: well that's a pretty neat gadget |
| 00:10 | eythian | dcook: the other thing is that this can do 20 million samples/s, the cheap one can do about 1 or 2 I think. |
| 00:10 | wizzyrea: yeah, it is. | |
| 00:12 | dcook | Definitely neat :D |
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| 01:43 | wizzyrea | I think that latest message indicates a bug for allowonshelfholds... that doesn't sound right. |
| 01:43 | on the list | |
| 01:44 | rangi | yeah |
| 01:44 | dcook | Which list? |
| 01:44 | wizzyrea | koha list |
| 01:44 | wahanui | koha list is probably not hosted by biblibre |
| 01:44 | wizzyrea | literal koha list |
| 01:44 | wahanui | wizzyrea: koha list =is= not hosted by biblibre |
| 01:44 | wizzyrea | forget koha list |
| 01:44 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot koha list |
| 01:45 | wizzyrea | koha list is <reply> You can subscribe to the Koha mailing list at https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha it is hosted by Katipo Communications. |
| 01:46 | koha list | |
| 01:46 | wahanui | You can subscribe to the Koha mailing list at https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha it is hosted by Katipo Communications. |
| 01:48 | eythian | The latest message sounds working as intended to me |
| 01:48 | oh wait | |
| 01:48 | no, it doesn't | |
| 01:48 | sounds like a bug | |
| 01:51 | wizzyrea | :) |
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| 02:46 | dcook | Is anyone around to answer an EZProxy question? |
| 02:46 | * dcook | thinks rangi integrated EZProxy and Koha back in 2013? |
| 02:49 | wizzyrea | define "integrate" |
| 02:49 | dcook | That's the question. Haha |
| 02:49 | I'm looking at the EZProxy demo, so nevermind for now.. | |
| 02:50 | Or rather.. | |
| 02:50 | I see something about EZProxy using SIP2 to authenticate with Koha | |
| 02:51 | Is the idea that EZProxy prompts you to login, it authenticates you against Koha, and then uses IP-based authentication to provide access to electronic resources? | |
| 02:54 | And I assume that the library has to replace their existing 856 with EZProxy links? | |
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| 03:04 | dcook | Hmm not following OCLC's documentation: https://www.oclc.org/support/s[…]n/usr/sip.en.html |
| 03:05 | That makes it seem like there is just a generic user :S | |
| 03:08 | Ah, but I guess that's just the SIP account? | |
| 03:08 | So EZProxy can connect to the SIP server with those credentials | |
| 03:08 | And then use SIP for the actual...ahh...ahhh! | |
| 03:08 | Bien sûr | |
| 03:12 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 03:12 | dcook | Hmm, I wonder how EZproxy and the EDS plugin work together |
| 03:12 | Probably not well | |
| 03:12 | Unless the EDS plugin allows you to specify an EZproxy URL... | |
| 03:12 | wizzyrea | they don't, it uses EDS's internal access control |
| 03:12 | dcook | Which it might? |
| 03:13 | wizzyrea | I think referrers and IP ranges are what it uses |
| 03:13 | dcook | Yeah, I just tried clicking through and I'm getting an EBSCO login, although that's to be expected in my case |
| 03:13 | Yeah, so it'll only work on-site for libraries | |
| 03:14 | wizzyrea | it might do some trickery with logged in users |
| 03:14 | for koha | |
| 03:14 | it's pretty well integrated | |
| 03:14 | an example | |
| 03:14 | wahanui | an example is probably a status change |
| 03:14 | dcook | Mmm, that's a good point |
| 03:14 | wizzyrea | is library.niwa.co.nz |
| 03:14 | so if you pick discovery from the dropdown | |
| 03:14 | and do a search | |
| 03:15 | that's the plugin | |
| 03:15 | dcook | Hmm, in my demo version, it's still prompting me to login to EDS |
| 03:15 | Even as a logged in Koha user | |
| 03:15 | I mean once I try to access content that is | |
| 03:15 | wizzyrea | I think it's entirely due to EDS access controls |
| 03:15 | however you have that configured, or however they have your account configured | |
| 03:16 | dcook | Hmm, it might be that we're using a hacked version of the EDS plugin too |
| 03:16 | wizzyrea | at the other end |
| 03:16 | dcook | Yeah |
| 03:16 | :/ | |
| 03:16 | wizzyrea | O.o why would you do that? |
| 03:16 | the accounts do have to be set up on EBSCO's end properly | |
| 03:16 | to work with the plugin | |
| 03:16 | dcook | I think we were running 3.14 but the only plugin available was 3.12 |
| 03:16 | accounts? | |
| 03:16 | wizzyrea | the EBSCO account |
| 03:16 | dcook | My search works fine |
| 03:16 | I can see results from EBSCO | |
| 03:16 | wizzyrea | yep, searches will |
| 03:17 | anyway | |
| 03:17 | dcook | Well, thanks for the info :) |
| 03:17 | I'll keep trying | |
| 03:17 | Hmm looks like the account is set up right.. | |
| 03:18 | wizzyrea | I'm almost sure it's gonna be on the EDS side |
| 03:18 | not the koha side | |
| 03:19 | and I don't think we've done one with ezproxy | |
| 03:19 | not a plugin anyway | |
| 03:19 | we've done ezproxy with SIP | |
| 03:19 | dcook | Hmm, I'm guessing it might be the Koha side |
| 03:19 | Maybe someone here did something wrong | |
| 03:19 | wizzyrea | heh |
| 03:20 | dcook | As the credentials are good |
| 03:20 | wizzyrea | if you can search, it's working |
| 03:20 | dcook | Then I'm guessing there's an auth issue in Koha where the credentials aren't getting passed correctly |
| 03:20 | wizzyrea | you are or aren't getting results? |
| 03:20 | dcook | our Koha* |
| 03:20 | ;) | |
| 03:20 | I am getting results | |
| 03:21 | wizzyrea | but you can't get through to the article? |
| 03:21 | dcook | But when I click "View in EDS", it doesn't work |
| 03:21 | wizzyrea | right |
| 03:21 | dcook | Correct |
| 03:21 | wizzyrea | that's normal |
| 03:21 | dcook | O_o |
| 03:21 | That's horrible | |
| 03:21 | wizzyrea | if you have credentials, you can get in |
| 03:21 | dcook | Well, if I use the credentials used to setup the EDS plugin, I can get in |
| 03:21 | But I recall the EDS plugin also changed Auth.pm | |
| 03:22 | So I would think it would authenticate to EDS when logging into Koha | |
| 03:22 | Hmm, not noticing that patch anymore though.. | |
| 03:22 | wizzyrea | that bit I'm not sure about |
| 03:24 | dcook | Hmm, that might just be the 3.12 version |
| 03:24 | Looks like that's gone in master | |
| 03:24 | and 3.14 | |
| 03:25 | Ah, looks like that's probably because of the use of Koha.Preference in templates.. | |
| 03:26 | wizzyrea | I think there's up to a 3.16 version of the plugin |
| 03:27 | afaik the plugin works ok on 3.18 as well | |
| 03:27 | dcook | Yeah, I thought there was a 3.16 version as well |
| 03:27 | All I see in Github is 3.12.x, 3.14.x, and master though | |
| 03:27 | wizzyrea | master is the latest, it usually says somewhere |
| 03:27 | dcook | ? |
| 03:27 | wizzyrea | what version it's geared for |
| 03:28 | dcook | So they keep it pretty up-to-date? |
| 03:28 | wizzyrea | use branch:master for Koha 3.16+ |
| 03:28 | https://github.com/ebsco/edsapi-koha-plugin < | |
| 03:28 | this is canonical afaik | |
| 03:28 | dcook | Yeah, that's what I'm looking at |
| 03:28 | wizzyrea | (anyway, this is where alvet puts the code, and where he says to get it from) |
| 03:28 | dcook | Ah, right |
| 03:28 | There in the README | |
| 03:29 | That's cool | |
| 03:29 | wizzyrea | >.> |
| 03:29 | <., | |
| 03:29 | <.< | |
| 03:29 | dcook | Too busy trying to find if this thing authenticates with EDS in any way except for the API |
| 03:30 | Doesn't look like it | |
| 03:30 | I wonder how people use it then :S | |
| 03:30 | * dcook | has never known an EBSCO login in his life |
| 03:30 | dcook | I think I always relied on being on-site or using the uni's VPN |
| 03:32 | https://library.niwa.co.nz/plu[…]ieve?an=102038624|dbid=a9h&resultid=4&query_desc= | |
| 03:32 | I can get the PDF Full Text, but View in EDS still prompts for login :p | |
| 03:32 | Just a bit funny | |
| 03:32 | Must be a fairly open item I guess | |
| 03:33 | wizzyrea | our clients do it either with a private catalogue and referers or if it's public, IP ranges and give the finger to those outside |
| 03:33 | or they have alternate access arrangements | |
| 03:33 | i.e. individual logins | |
| 03:33 | there are about 100 ways to access EDS, afaict | |
| 03:33 | dcook | hehe |
| 03:33 | Yeah, I think most of ours use IP ranges | |
| 03:34 | Or a private catalogue and a referer, yeah | |
| 03:34 | wizzyrea | one of them uses SIP + EZproxy, but not with the plugin |
| 03:34 | dcook | Yeah, we had an enquiry about the EDS plugin, and then they mentioned EZproxy |
| 03:34 | wizzyrea | which btw |
| 03:34 | dcook | But looks like the two don't play nicely together |
| 03:34 | Hm? | |
| 03:34 | wizzyrea | if you are dealing with OCLC's ez proxy |
| 03:34 | you can ask them to stunnel it | |
| 03:35 | to your SIP | |
| 03:35 | so it's nice and cozy and secure | |
| 03:35 | dcook | :D |
| 03:39 | Hmm, I wonder what options EBSCO has for authentication APIs... | |
| 03:39 | http://support.epnet.com/knowl[…]etail.php?id=4191 | |
| 03:42 | I guess we already use the OpenAthens authentication.. | |
| 04:07 | * eythian | wishes to remind everyone that catalogue/search.pl may be the worst thing ever. |
| 04:08 | eythian | I kinda want to refactor the whole thing |
| 04:08 | dcook | ^ |
| 04:08 | I'll buy you a beer | |
| 04:08 | eythian | $advanced_srch_type <-- good abbrev. there guy |
| 04:08 | dcook | Maybe even more than one beer! |
| 04:08 | eythian | heh |
| 04:08 | dcook | lol |
| 04:09 | Oh man. I've seen so many bad abbreviations lately | |
| 04:09 | Actually, I'm not even going to start | |
| 04:09 | * dcook | is wishing beer eythian's way in any case |
| 04:15 | dcook | Wooo. Solving problems left and right here. |
| 04:15 | Alas, one problem remains | |
| 04:15 | What to listen to next? | |
| 04:16 | eythian | Theatre of Tragedy, of course |
| 04:17 | dcook | I'll give 'em a shot, sure |
| 04:17 | Any song recommendations? | |
| 04:18 | Oh, I'm always a sucker for a song with the same name as other songs I listen to.. | |
| 04:18 | eythian | hmm |
| 04:18 | "Forever is the World" is probably a place to start. | |
| 04:21 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
| 04:21 | dcook | Sweet. I'll give 'er a go |
| 04:42 | Mmm catchy | |
| 05:09 | God I love Git | |
| 05:10 | It just makes life better | |
| 05:14 | Gitolite is always rad | |
| 05:21 | * eythian | ticks off one beer from dcook as he finishes moving a block into a sub. |
| 05:21 | dcook | hehe |
| 05:21 | Yay eythian! | |
| 05:21 | Actually, if someone did analysis on all the IRC logs, I wonder how many beers that would equal out to... | |
| 05:22 | Probably a lot | |
| 05:22 | eythian | heh |
| 05:48 | time to go, later | |
| 05:53 | dcook | laters |
| 06:15 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 06:40 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:40 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 06:41 | reiveune | hi magnuse |
| 06:44 | * dcook | waves quickly |
| 06:45 | * magnuse | waves quickly back |
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| 06:57 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:58 | dcook | Nooo. It can't be 2 minutes to 5 :( |
| 06:58 | hey alex_a :) | |
| 06:59 | alex_a | dcook: hello |
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| 07:01 | dcook | Man... learn something new every day |
| 07:01 | I'd never heard of "shopt" before | |
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| 07:16 | fridolin | hie$ |
| 07:17 | cait | morning #koha |
| 07:19 | dcook | laters alls |
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| 07:21 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:37 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:37 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on May 12, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:37 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 07:37 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 18.0°C (9:35 AM CEST on May 12, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
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| 08:20 | * andreashm | waves |
| 08:22 | * magnuse | waves back |
| 08:23 | * liw | undulates |
| 08:23 | * magnuse | looks quizzically at liw |
| 08:24 | liw | it was a pune or play on words |
| 08:24 | andreashm | is there a reason why the search boxes (patron, checkout etc.) has a somewhat limited width? |
| 08:25 | as far as i can tell there is never anything on the top right of the page in Koha anyway? | |
| 08:28 | magnuse | liw: punny ;-) |
| 08:28 | andreashm: probably not? you can try making it longer with javascript (or css?) and see how you like it | |
| 08:29 | andreashm | magnuse: Halland is doing something there. I was just curious why this is? |
| 08:29 | Some of our UX:ers brought it up when they looked quickly at the staff interface | |
| 08:34 | magnuse: how's the ill/ncip stuff coming along? | |
| 08:38 | magnuse | a bit slowly... |
| 08:38 | looks like the deadline for a working prototype is getting pushed to end of august | |
| 08:38 | which suits me fine | |
| 08:39 | i am thinking of doing a blogpost, to point to the different places where development happens | |
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| 08:48 | andreashm | magnuse: that would be interesting! |
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| 10:49 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 10:56 | magnus_away | moin drojf |
| 10:57 | * drojf | shouts "hei magnus_away!" because you're far away ;) |
| 10:59 | * magnus_away | can barely hear it |
| 11:00 | magnuse | that's better |
| 11:00 | drojf | :) |
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| 11:10 | magnuse | @seen oleonard |
| 11:10 | huginn` | magnuse: oleonard was last seen in #koha 10 weeks, 3 days, 17 hours, 15 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <oleonard> That's very strange squash. I'm sorry, I don't know what's going on. |
| 11:11 | drojf | that's an awfully long oleonardless time |
| 11:11 | magnuse | yup |
| 11:11 | hope there's nothing wrong | |
| 11:13 | drojf | hope so too |
| 11:13 | magnuse | here's the weird look of the staff interface in ie that slef and i were talking about yesterday: http://div.libriotech.no/files[…]ha/staff-ie11.png |
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| 12:02 | magnuse | MARC-- |
| 12:06 | cait | what did it do this time? |
| 12:20 | magnuse | cait: it failed to have some way to say "this a daisy thingy" |
| 12:20 | in general: failure to keep up with new formats | |
| 12:20 | document formats | |
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| 12:31 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:32 | @later tell rangi odd, because they are set using the unstable repo and koha-perldeps, there shouldn't be any dependency missing! | |
| 12:32 | huginn` | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:32 | tcohen | hi cait |
| 12:35 | time for the beta | |
| 12:36 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 12:37 | tcohen | @later tell mtompset are you talking about the verbosity of Search.t? |
| 12:37 | huginn` | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:47 | tcohen | @does anyone have the list of the new devs? |
| 12:47 | huginn` | tcohen: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 12:47 | tcohen | does anyone have the list of the new devs? |
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| 12:58 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 12:58 | @seen tcohen | |
| 12:58 | huginn` | mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 10 minutes and 58 seconds ago: <tcohen> does anyone have the list of the new devs? |
| 12:58 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 12:58 | mtompset | No, I was talking about the failure of the Search.t test. |
| 12:59 | But that isn't why I'm looking for you. :) | |
| 12:59 | I'm finally getting around to 11592. | |
| 12:59 | My question is about where to hook, since you didn't like it being hooked in the GetMarcBiblio function. | |
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| 13:03 | tcohen | mtompset: let me do the beta now, and be back to you |
| 13:03 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "The Search.t stuff I was looking to solve (Zebraidx warnings)" (56 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/103 |
| 13:21 | tcohen | mtompset: about Search.t |
| 13:22 | the fact is that GRS-1 is deprecated and staged for removal | |
| 13:22 | i wouldn't spend time on it | |
| 13:22 | mtompset | Yes, but I don't like getting emails. :P |
| 13:23 | Jenkins build is unstable: Koha_Master_D8 #43 | |
| 13:25 | tcohen | mtompset: i'm very aware |
| 13:25 | not sure that's idiomatic | |
| 13:25 | heh | |
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| 13:28 | mtompset | No, that's fine. You are aware that no one likes getting emails about a deprecated feature failure. |
| 13:31 | xarragon | git-bz does not want to attach my stuff. Login invalid, but it looks correct in the config. Any ideas? |
| 13:33 | tcohen | mtompset: exactly |
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| 13:34 | mtompset | xarragon: Did you properly escape funky characters? $, *, etc.? |
| 13:34 | Can you actually log into bugzilla? | |
| 13:34 | using the web interface? | |
| 13:37 | xarragon | yep, web login works. The username has an '2' in it, unescaped. |
| 13:37 | Ehr, '@' I mean. | |
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| 13:40 | mtompset | Sorry, my wireless flaked out on me. |
| 13:40 | and git config -l (I think it is a lower case l) lists the correct settings? | |
| 13:41 | make sure you don't have a typo on the tracker lines. It's too easy to have a typo. | |
| 13:42 | git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.path /bugzilla3 | |
| 13:42 | git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.bz-user U | |
| 13:42 | git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.bz-password PW | |
| 13:42 | (http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bz_configuration) | |
| 13:43 | druthb | o/ |
| 13:43 | * tcohen | is anxious |
| 13:43 | tcohen | hi druthb |
| 13:43 | mtompset | Greetings, druthb. :) |
| 13:43 | tcohen | 100kb/s upload speed makes me anxious |
| 13:43 | druthb | Hi, tcohen and mtompset. :) |
| 13:43 | mtompset | oh oh oh... |
| 13:43 | Well? | |
| 13:45 | tcohen | confetti! |
| 13:45 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 13:45 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Koha 3.20 beta <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]980f2a3335289d682> / Preliminary (beta) release notes for 3.20 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]712e9bcb4f98f7473> / Translation updates for Koha 3.20 beta <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a910365ebdcffe6cd> |
| 13:46 | tcohen | heh, that's what i call timing |
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| 13:47 | druthb | wahanui: druthb? |
| 13:47 | wahanui | Let's rewrite Koha in Scala! |
| 13:47 | druthb | lol |
| 13:52 | wahanui: forget druthb | |
| 13:52 | wahanui | druthb: I forgot druthb |
| 13:52 | druthb | druthb is <reply> She's really more trouble than she's worth, you know? |
| 13:52 | wahanui: druthb? | |
| 13:52 | wahanui | She's really more trouble than she's worth, you know? |
| 13:52 | * druthb | nods. |
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| 13:55 | mtompset | wahanui: druthb is also an amazing person |
| 13:55 | wahanui | okay, mtompset. |
| 13:56 | mtompset | druthb? |
| 13:56 | wahanui | druthb is an amazing person |
| 13:56 | mtompset | druthb? |
| 13:56 | wahanui | i heard druthb was an amazing person |
| 13:56 | mtompset | druthb? |
| 13:56 | wahanui | She's really more trouble than she's worth, you know? |
| 13:56 | mtompset | Looks good to me. :) |
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| 14:00 | tcohen | yay! http://snag.gy/MWGr0.jpg |
| 14:00 | xarragon | Ah, I see git-bz is using a browser. Defaulting to firefox. My firefox is heavily locked down with noscript and similar extensions. |
| 14:06 | tcohen | git-bz doesn't use a browser |
| 14:07 | xarragon | tcohen: Ok? I was looking inside the code for it, and there is a config option for it? But maybe it is not for the bz login? |
| 14:08 | Ah, I see. It just "borrows" the cookies from it. | |
| 14:09 | tcohen | nope |
| 14:09 | the browsers are identified by the servers | |
| 14:09 | as "user agent" | |
| 14:10 | git-bz uses a library that emulates a user agent | |
| 14:10 | and you see a configuration section | |
| 14:10 | where git-bz tells the user agent to identify itself as firefox 3 | |
| 14:10 | but no browser is involved | |
| 14:11 | xarragon | Hm, okay. That makes more sense; full browser would be overkill. |
| 14:11 | However, the home page says: "Authentication for git-bz is done by reading the cookies for the Bugzilla host from your web browser." | |
| 14:11 | http://git.fishsoup.net/man/git-bz.html | |
| 14:12 | * tcohen | just can't read python |
| 14:14 | mtompset | xarragon: Did you check for typos, like I suggested? |
| 14:14 | tcohen | xarragon: i see, it fallsback to try reading the browser's cookies if you don't provide the credentials on the configuration |
| 14:15 | line 926: test for user/pass | |
| 14:15 | line 953: else, try the cookies | |
| 14:15 | xarragon | mtompset: Yes, it looks correct. |
| 14:16 | * druthb | makes squinty eyes at mtompset |
| 14:16 | tcohen | where's everyone? |
| 14:16 | wahanui | everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver |
| 14:18 | mtompset | I am not, wahanui! :P |
| 14:18 | xarragon | Let's just try reentering the user/pass again.. |
| 14:18 | Like "Have you tried turning it off and on again?" | |
| 14:19 | mtompset | BTW, congrats on the beta, tcohen. :) |
| 14:19 | I use the full email address for the username. | |
| 14:20 | xarragon | Yes, same here. |
| 14:20 | mtompset | But you already said you do too... Hmmm... |
| 14:20 | (since you mentioned the @) :) | |
| 14:20 | xarragon | I did reset my password to a new one right before trying this, because I had apparently set it to something I forgot. |
| 14:21 | mtompset | DOH! |
| 14:21 | That's why you are going through this headache. Yuck. Hope you figure it out. | |
| 14:22 | Oh my! more pushes to pull. | |
| 14:23 | xarragon | I added print statements to the Python code and yes, it indeed reads out the correct credentials at line 370 and 377. |
| 14:25 | But is there something about having reset it just before that I should know about? I entered the new credentials into the git config, of course. | |
| 14:25 | At this point I am considering just attaching the patch manually. :-) | |
| 14:26 | * mtompset | is both impressed and horrified at the same time. :) |
| 14:26 | xarragon | I am very good at going at something I am completely new to and completely trashing it. That is usually followed by learning how to fix it. |
| 14:27 | mtompset | tcohen: So, now that you have a pretty new beta. Can we chat about the hooking of the filter? |
| 14:27 | tcohen | not yet |
| 14:27 | sorry | |
| 14:34 | mtompset | xarragon: I hate password reset issues. I've hit them a couple times, but not in this Koha case. |
| 14:34 | Sorry I can't brainstorm any more ideas. I'm out. | |
| 14:35 | BTW, this is why LastPass or some other password manager is useful. :) | |
| 14:43 | xarragon | Well, just to make clear.. I did successfully reset my password on the bz web site, set a new one, successfully logged in with it, but it won't work when configured in git-bz. |
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| 14:49 | Joubu | xarragon: Which branch of git-bz are you using? |
| 14:53 | xarragon | Joubu: git clone |
| 14:53 | mtompset: thanks for all your time | |
| 14:54 | mtompset | did you check out the fishsoup branch? |
| 14:54 | xarragon | What does proper escaping for '@' look like? |
| 14:54 | mtompset | I didn't have to escape mine. |
| 14:54 | xarragon | ok,good |
| 14:54 | mtompset | if it looks correct in git config -l, it's fine. |
| 14:56 | Joubu | xarragon: git log --oneline|head -n1 |
| 15:01 | tcohen | Joubu: aa8bd7a Koha 3.20 beta |
| 15:01 | :-P | |
| 15:01 | thanks for that zillion patches | |
| 15:03 | Joubu | tcohen: it was not for you! ;) |
| 15:03 | tcohen++ for the beta | |
| 15:03 | * tcohen | knows, i was joking |
| 15:03 | Joubu | 3.20 looks awesome :) |
| 15:03 | xarragon | Joubu: 7a73819 Add README |
| 15:03 | Joubu | even if I have found a major ;) |
| 15:04 | tcohen | really? |
| 15:04 | WTF? | |
| 15:04 | Joubu | because of the 'get rid of DateParse stuff" |
| 15:04 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:04 | Joubu | the onsite checkout is broken, I will submit a patch soon |
| 15:04 | tcohen | will you? :-D |
| 15:05 | that'd mean... | |
| 15:05 | Joubu | xarragon: you should track the fishsoup branch on git://git.koha-community.org/git-bz.git |
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| 15:07 | xarragon | Joubu: Ok, was tracking master |
| 15:09 | Joubu: Now it flows like fish soup! | |
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| 15:10 | xarragon | Joubu: Many, many thanks! |
| 15:11 | Joubu | xarragon: you are welcome! Now we are waiting for you patch[es] ;) |
| 15:12 | tcohen | :-D |
| 15:12 | xarragon | Here it is: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12342 |
| 15:12 | huginn` | 04Bug 12342: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Patron registration datepicker dropdown shows only 10 years |
| 15:12 | xarragon | Obviously an incredibly critical one..*cough* |
| 15:14 | Joubu | it's useful, you will save a lot of clicks! |
| 15:15 | xarragon | More to come. I just fixed that one because I noticed it and it was trivial. |
| 15:15 | AND there was a ticket for it, so obviously someone else was annoyed. | |
| 15:15 | cait | bgkriegel++ tons of sign-offs |
| 15:16 | xarragon++ too - first patch? | |
| 15:16 | xarragon | cait: yep, bit of a slow start for me |
| 15:16 | cait | i don't think so - you are doig well i'd say :) |
| 15:17 | * cait | feels like she missed important things on irc today |
| 15:18 | xarragon | I have been adding some things to the Wiki as well, I have a setup guide for Arch Linux coming as well as this Debian Jessie guide: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]development_setup |
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| 15:25 | cait | :) |
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| 15:32 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 15:58 | mtompset | xarragon: Why not in your home directory? |
| 15:58 | (I'm reading your page) | |
| 15:59 | Why are you using github, rather than git.koha-community.org? | |
| 15:59 | Why are you not being lazy and sudo apt-get install koha-perldeps? | |
| 16:00 | PDF::FromHTML is an anomaly, not normative. Instructions should probably not focus on that. | |
| 16:03 | A development server isn't necessarily internet accessible, so security concerns about the home directory are mute. | |
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| 17:13 | Krixvar | Hi, this might be more of an issue of me not fully understanding web programming, but where do I put images that I want to include in OPAC html and/or how would I refer to them? Thanks! |
| 17:14 | cait | anywhhere where you can access them via url |
| 17:15 | i am nto sure which options you have and if you can put them on the koha server yourself | |
| 17:15 | there is not really 'one place' | |
| 17:15 | Krixvar | Yeah, full access to the server |
| 17:15 | I think this is just me being an html noob :/ | |
| 17:15 | cait | you could put them... in koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/images... in you rown directory |
| 17:15 | but that's really just one idea | |
| 17:16 | Krixvar | is koha-templ somewhere other than /usr/share? I'm not seeing it |
| 17:17 | cait | hm sorry, i don't have the path for a package installation in memory right now |
| 17:17 | Krixvar | I'm just trying to toss an image into OpacMainUserBlock and having more trouble than I expected |
| 17:17 | tcohen | @later tell rangi can u please check if history.txt is up-to-date? I plan to grab the new devs from it |
| 17:17 | huginn` | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:17 | cait | koha-tmpl |
| 17:18 | tcohen: do you know the patch from memory? | |
| 17:19 | tcohen | ah? |
| 17:19 | wahanui | well, ah is ? |
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| 17:19 | cait | path |
| 17:20 | Krixvar wants to put images into the opac - i suggested to put the file with the other images in its own directory | |
| 17:20 | not sure what a better place would be with packages | |
| 17:20 | tcohen | Krixvar: you should create a directory wherever you want on the server (outside koha's directories) |
| 17:20 | and add an "Alias" entry on apache, like this: | |
| 17:22 | bag | foodz time for me |
| 17:22 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "like this" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/104 |
| 17:23 | tcohen | then you refer to the images using /local-images/image_name.png |
| 17:23 | Krixvar | I hate to ask but where exactly does this alias go? Pretty inexperienced with apache |
| 17:23 | awesome | |
| 17:23 | tcohen | can u run this on the command line? koha-list --enabled |
| 17:23 | cait | that's a good idea too :) |
| 17:24 | Krixvar | outputs "test", the name of the setup I'm working on |
| 17:24 | tcohen | great |
| 17:24 | then the file you are looking for | |
| 17:24 | is /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/test.conf | |
| 17:24 | you will see a section for opac, and another one for intranet | |
| 17:25 | Krixvar | I see it |
| 17:25 | tcohen | i'm pretty sure you will add it to the opac virtualhost definition |
| 17:25 | this way, you don't mess with the files shipped by koha, no risk of loosing anything on upgrade, etc | |
| 17:26 | Krixvar | sweet |
| 17:26 | should I restart apache for it to kick in? | |
| 17:28 | Didn't work with or without a restart :/ | |
| 17:28 | tcohen | when you change a virtualhost definition |
| 17:28 | you need to (at least) reload: sudo service apache2 reload | |
| 17:28 | if you add some new apache modules you might need to restart, though | |
| 17:29 | Krixvar | hmm still not working, let me tinker with it a bit |
| 17:29 | tcohen | the logs will tell you |
| 17:29 | oh | |
| 17:29 | Krixvar | hmm? |
| 17:29 | tcohen | on the <Directory...></Directory> block |
| 17:30 | delete the two last lines | |
| 17:30 | and replace them with | |
| 17:30 | require all granted | |
| 17:30 | Krixvar | all one line? |
| 17:31 | tcohen | just a sec |
| 17:31 | Krixvar | thanks |
| 17:32 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "Apache 2.4 version" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/105 |
| 17:34 | Krixvar | hmm still no go.. its a jpg file rather than a png, would that be breaking anythingm? |
| 17:34 | *anything | |
| 17:35 | tcohen | nope |
| 17:36 | is it accesible from outside? | |
| 17:36 | you should check the logs | |
| 17:36 | /var/log/koha/test/opac-error.log | |
| 17:37 | tail -f /var/log/koha/test/opac-error.log | |
| 17:37 | while trying to access the image on the browser | |
| 17:38 | Krixvar | apparently that log doesn't exist |
| 17:39 | its just <img src="/local-images/library.jpg">, right? | |
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| 17:40 | Krixvar | oh der alt text one sec |
| 17:41 | nevermind, that didn't actually help | |
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| 17:47 | Krixvar | tcohen, found the log - I believe the pertinent error is "[Tue May 12 13:46:06 2015] [crit] [client 192.168.2.77] configuration error: couldn't perform authentication. AuthType not set!: /local-images/library.png, referer: http://192.168.2.4/ |
| 17:47 | " | |
| 17:47 | wahanui | Hmm. No matches for that, Krixvar. |
| 17:49 | cait | Krixvar: in which part of the apache did you put it? |
| 17:49 | Krixvar | the image? |
| 17:49 | cait | there might be too entreis - one for the opac and the one intranet |
| 17:50 | apache config | |
| 17:50 | wahanui | apache config is, like, the only thing that would've been different |
| 17:50 | Krixvar | just in opac |
| 17:50 | cait | hm |
| 17:50 | Krixvar | I could add to intranet as well |
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| 17:50 | cait | i thought you had maybe put it in the intranet, because that wouldmake sense with the authentication |
| 17:50 | not sure then | |
| 17:51 | tcohen | cait: https://www.openhub.net/p/koha[…]uery=&sort=newest |
| 17:51 | =D | |
| 17:51 | ah, no | |
| 17:51 | it takes the commit dates, not the pushed date | |
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| 17:54 | Krixvar_ | power just went.. back now |
| 17:55 | tcohen | Krixvar_: it seems you need to add |
| 17:56 | Satisfy Any | |
| 17:56 | to the directory options | |
| 17:56 | Krixvar_ | ah |
| 17:56 | tcohen | i never ran into that |
| 17:56 | so, just a google result :-D | |
| 17:57 | Krixvar_ | and it works, thank you! |
| 17:58 | there's two other hopefully smaller things that I've been having issues with if you don't mind me asking | |
| 17:59 | tcohen | i'm kind-of-here |
| 17:59 | Krixvar_ | no problem |
| 17:59 | tcohen | working on several things at once |
| 17:59 | don't get pissed if we lag to answer | |
| 17:59 | Krixvar_ | I totally understand :) Doing the same myself haha |
| 17:59 | tcohen | it is the usual |
| 18:00 | * cait | is kind-of-here to |
| 18:00 | cait | o |
| 18:01 | Krixvar_ | I'm having issues with the backup command outputting to the default directory regardless of parameters and with the create_koc_db not finding some dependency even though I've tried installing things as well as copying from the koha folders to system folders |
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| 18:20 | ashimema | @later tell eythian any chance you could take a look at bug 14167. Seems nice a neat to me, but I've a hunch there's somthing missing to make it package compatible. |
| 18:20 | huginn` | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:21 | cait | bug 14167 |
| 18:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add Koha::Logger based on Log4perl |
| 18:22 | ashimema | there's lots of alternative logging bugs out there cait.. but this one seems to be the lightest weight and thus easiest to get through the various channels ;) |
| 18:22 | I really really want decent logging in koha ;) | |
| 18:36 | tcohen | ashimema: it is pretty straightforward |
| 18:36 | i've just mentioned it | |
| 18:37 | ashimema | cheers tcohen.. |
| 18:37 | I thought it probably was.. but I've had my head out of the mindspace for a while and couldn't exactly remember ;) | |
| 18:39 | * tcohen | will give his new laptop+gift_from_the_community its first use, creating that followup :-D |
| 18:42 | mtompset | tcohen: Will we get to that chat at all today? :) |
| 18:43 | ashimema | awesome |
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| 18:52 | tcohen | mtompset: no chances! |
| 18:52 | mtompset | Care to schedule it like a meeting? :) |
| 18:53 | tcohen | sure |
| 18:53 | mtompset | Okay, when is good for you? |
| 18:53 | tcohen | while i set a date, please think about this |
| 18:53 | "Implement it as a Koha::RecordProcessor filter on MARC records | |
| 18:53 | " | |
| 18:54 | mtompset | That's not the issue. ;) |
| 18:54 | I think that's a reasonable idea. | |
| 18:54 | The issue is WHERE to hook. | |
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| 18:54 | tcohen | look at Koha/Filter/MARC/EmbbedSeeFromHeading.pm |
| 18:54 | ah | |
| 18:54 | maybe don't worry about it right now? | |
| 18:55 | mtompset | No. It's important. I need to get this into master somehow. |
| 18:55 | tcohen | having the filter will be a great start |
| 18:55 | mtompset | You don't like it hooked in GetMarcBiblio? |
| 18:55 | tcohen | i have a working filter that does the same, but for MARCXML data |
| 18:55 | so i'll be thinking on where to hook it in a couple weeks | |
| 18:55 | mtompset | Where did you hook it? |
| 18:56 | tcohen | my plan is to get rid of searchResults |
| 18:56 | sort-of | |
| 18:56 | mtompset | That's a big endeavour. |
| 18:56 | Sounds like a 4.0 worthy change. ;) | |
| 18:56 | tcohen | we have several of those on the pipe |
| 18:56 | mtompset | Or better yet... 5.0, because it is huge. ;) |
| 18:57 | tcohen | mtompset: it is not *that* big deal |
| 19:05 | mtompset | When's the next dev meeting? |
| 19:11 | tcohen | mtompset: you should ask the Release Manager that question |
| 19:11 | :-P | |
| 19:11 | bye #koha | |
| 19:13 | cait | bye tcohen :) |
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| 20:29 | tcohen | hi there |
| 20:29 | wahanui | hola, tcohen |
| 20:33 | cait | wb tcohen |
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| 20:35 | tcohen | hi cait |
| 20:38 | indradg | hi tcohen |
| 20:39 | tcohen | hi indradg |
| 20:43 | indradg | tcohen: traditionally, accepted patches to the Koha manual do not get a reference in the release notes (not being part of the code).. do they? |
| 20:43 | tcohen | that's right |
| 20:43 | wahanui | I know. |
| 20:51 | cait | maybe we could add a page to the manual? |
| 20:51 | with contributors? | |
| 20:53 | indradg | cait: +1 |
| 20:58 | @seen nengard | |
| 20:58 | huginn` | indradg: nengard was last seen in #koha 23 hours, 8 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <nengard> hmmm |
| 21:02 | indradg | @later tell nengard do you think it is a good idea to have a section in the manual - "Authors and other credited contributors"? |
| 21:02 | huginn` | indradg: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:03 | mtompset | welcome back, tcohen. :) |
| 21:07 | rangi | morning |
| 21:07 | indradg | tcohen: I see that bug 6815 is assigned to you. any update on that or should I go ahead and test the available patch? |
| 21:07 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6815 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Capture member photo via webcam |
| 21:07 | indradg | morning rangi |
| 21:07 | rangi | tcohen: is there anything you would like aleisha to look at before the release? |
| 21:07 | cait | :) |
| 21:07 | rangi | tcohen: and history was up to date a month ago, ill check now |
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| 21:11 | tcohen | rangi: thanks! |
| 21:11 | rangi | tcohen: yep its up to date |
| 21:12 | tcohen | great |
| 21:13 | indradg: i'm not working on it right now, I was using a javascript-only implementation using photobooth.js or something like that | |
| 21:13 | the only problem was translations, because it was (in mtompset words) poorly coded | |
| 21:13 | indradg | ok! |
| 21:14 | mtompset | My understanding of 6815 is that a client-side solution is prefered. |
| 21:14 | My patch is a server side solution. | |
| 21:14 | tcohen | mtompset: i'll schedule a dev meeting for next wednesday |
| 21:14 | it will probably be 3.20-only | |
| 21:15 | unless we sorted all important bits by then | |
| 21:15 | and next week, we'll start talking about the fun stuff: ES, REST api, Angular, plack, etc | |
| 21:16 | cait | :) |
| 21:16 | tcohen | mtompset: that's right, it is a client side thing. And should not depend on any superhero |
| 21:17 | specially robin | |
| 21:17 | or flash | |
| 21:17 | mtompset | But I am still pleased with my server solution. :) |
| 21:18 | tcohen | mtompset: it is always awesome when you conceive an idea and you find you implemented the way you liked it |
| 21:19 | mtompset | It meets the criteria of no flash. ;) |
| 21:23 | The largest problem with a client side solution right now is the "don't use flash". | |
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| 21:23 | mtompset | Because not all browsers support the HTML media functions like they should. |
| 21:24 | tcohen | mtompset: that's actually not an issue |
| 21:24 | TGoat | hey #koha .. is debian koha's native environment? |
| 21:25 | tcohen | i think it is a fair requirement 'a modern browser' for running an ILS |
| 21:25 | mtompset | Yes, TGoat. The server is natively on Debian. |
| 21:25 | tcohen | TGoat: it is! |
| 21:25 | TGoat | thansk .. |
| 21:25 | I had someone asking about CentOS and RedHat and though I was sure I still had to ask | |
| 21:26 | mtompset | TGoat, it is possible to do Koha on CentOS and RedHat... please don't take on the headache. |
| 21:27 | TGoat | yea right .. who wants the headache. We tried to install it on CentOS at the library I worked at but we stopped shortly there after. Just not worth it |
| 21:28 | thanks for the quick response mtompset! | |
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| 21:59 | eythian | hi |
| 21:59 | wahanui | que tal, eythian |
| 22:00 | eythian | ashimema: see also bug 13413 |
| 22:00 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13413 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Koha::Log - an attempt to have sane logging in Koha |
| 22:02 | wizzyrea | hi |
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