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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:00 | wizzyrea | neato |
| 00:04 | hm I wonder if I can still push to the kc repo. | |
| 00:05 | eythian | BobB: > be to bolt Koha and Moodle [...] together |
| 00:05 | we have a moodle development team here, it's something we've been looking for an excuse to do for a while. | |
| 00:06 | BobB | hi eythian, it was Andrew Boag who made the suggestion to me |
| 00:06 | eythian | oh right :) |
| 00:06 | BobB | but there's nothing concrete from the client yet - not even about what they want to achieve |
| 00:07 | just 'Is Koha LTI compliant?' | |
| 00:07 | eythian | yeah |
| 00:07 | BobB | I hadn't heard of LTI before the question :) |
| 00:08 | good info from Mirko, eh | |
| 00:09 | eythian | I'd not heard of it either. |
| 00:10 | but yeah, that should be helpfule | |
| 00:10 | -e | |
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| 02:44 | BobB | windy as in Sydney |
| 02:44 | @wunder Sydney, New South Wales | |
| 02:44 | huginn` | BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 21.0°C (12:30 PM AEST on May 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Falling). |
| 02:45 | BobB | the Pressure is the clue :) |
| 02:49 | wizzyrea | it's supposed to be getting windier over the day here too |
| 02:49 | @wunder nzwn | |
| 02:49 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (2:30 PM NZST on May 11, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling). |
| 02:49 | wizzyrea | nice temp tho |
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| 06:24 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 06:45 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:45 | wahanui | hey, reiveune |
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| 06:47 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 06:51 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:51 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on May 11, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:51 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 06:51 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on May 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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| 07:26 | * magnuse | waves again |
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| 07:30 | * cait | waves back |
| 07:31 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:31 | wahanui | privet, gaetan_B |
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| 07:34 | cait | hi gaetan_B |
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| 07:40 | fridolin | hie |
| 07:50 | cait | @later tell khall_away can you please take a look at the comments on bug 9309? |
| 07:50 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:50 | cait | @later tell khall_away .. I meant 9303 |
| 07:50 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:55 | magnuse | bug 9303 |
| 07:55 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9303 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , relative's checkouts in the opac |
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| 08:24 | andreashm | morning |
| 08:30 | magnuse | kia ora andreashm |
| 08:33 | andreashm | hi magnuse |
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| 08:42 | bakh | Hi everyone, would anyone please be so kind and guided me a little with data importing? I was able to import over 15000 records to the database, but I have a problem with "item holdings". It randomly shows that I have 2 or 3 item holdings, but I only have one. |
| 08:44 | magnuse | bakh: in koha, items in marc records are in the 952 field. so check your records for what appears there |
| 08:44 | bakh | oh I see |
| 08:45 | so If i used for example 952$1, 952$d and 952$i for one book | |
| 08:45 | it will tell the system that i have three item holdings? | |
| 08:45 | magnuse | here is an explanation of what goes in what subfield: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
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| 08:46 | magnuse | yeah, if you have three separate 952 fields with those subfields, koha will see it as three separate items |
| 08:46 | or not import some of the 952's, because mandatory subfields are missing | |
| 08:46 | bakh | oh, Ok, thanks very much, I will change it so that there will be only 952$i as inventory |
| 08:47 | magnuse | you will need at least $a and $b too, i think |
| 08:48 | the value there should correspond to a library you have set up in koha | |
| 08:48 | bakh | What if I only have one library? |
| 08:50 | magnuse | you still have to put it in $a and $b, but it will be the same for all records |
| 08:51 | bakh | oh, Ok thanks, Ill try that |
| 08:53 | magnuse | bakh: and just to be clear: what you out there is the library "code" you defined on INTRANET/cgi-bin/koha/admin/branches.pl |
| 08:56 | gah! what you *out* there | |
| 08:56 | gah! gah! what you *put* there | |
| 08:58 | indradg | bakh: this is what 952 for a record on one of my systems look like in MarcEdit |
| 08:58 | =952 \\$8FIC$aMIETSCHOOL$bMIETSCHOOL$d2003-01-03$eCBT$g80$i126$p1000000126$w2003-01-03$xBill No. 1296;1297$yBK | |
| 08:59 | bakh | oh I see, Il try to compare it with mine |
| 09:00 | * indradg | is wondering is anyone who has worked on the currency code is around |
| 09:00 | cait | bakh: also setting y the itemtype is good for circulation later |
| 09:00 | indradg: i have seen your emails, but only tested, not worked on the code | |
| 09:00 | what's the problem? | |
| 09:00 | wahanui | https://i.imgur.com/sguSwlh.jpg |
| 09:02 | bakh | hm my record looks a bit different |
| 09:02 | =952 \\$10 =952 \\$d7/28/2011 12:00:00 AM =952 \\$i2439874 | |
| 09:02 | cait | hm that's still 3 952 |
| 09:03 | bakh | yeah, thats why i have 3 item holdings |
| 09:03 | cait | and the date format looks weird too |
| 09:03 | what is $i? | |
| 09:03 | wahanui | $i is used |
| 09:03 | cait | is it the number you use for checking out? |
| 09:03 | the barcode? | |
| 09:03 | wahanui | it has been said that the barcode is actually handled by cataloguing/value_builder/barcode.pl. |
| 09:03 | bakh | in next import I have deleted the 952i and the date |
| 09:04 | its not important for our library, so I was said right now. | |
| 09:04 | cait | you should create something like indradg's example |
| 09:04 | 952 \\$aBRANCHCODE$bBRANCHCODE$yitemtype$o...$p... would be good - but depends on your library | |
| 09:04 | bakh | ye, Im testing it right now, but the problem is, that I always get 952 on different lines |
| 09:44 | magnuse | tiffintime! |
| 09:51 | cait | tiffin? |
| 09:52 | lunchtime! | |
| 09:52 | wahanui | i heard lunchtime was a terrible time for a meeting |
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| 10:30 | cait | back |
| 10:40 | magnuse | cait: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiffin |
| 10:40 | cait | ah food :) |
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| 11:36 | cait | khall: around? |
| 11:36 | khall | what's up? |
| 11:36 | cait | one ces |
| 11:36 | sec | |
| 11:37 | ah | |
| 11:37 | i got confused - i thought the relatives checkouts had already been pushed | |
| 11:37 | but they haven't | |
| 11:37 | did you find the problem? | |
| 11:49 | khall | cait: yes, found the problem |
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| 11:51 | cait | cool :) |
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| 12:17 | magnuse | weird. do we really remove hyphens from the first isbn (020), when records are imported into koha? |
| 12:22 | not when it's done through the web ui, at least | |
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| 12:23 | cait | magnuse: hm maybe ohnly in some cases? marc21 is without hyphens |
| 12:23 | or only for the isbn column in the db tables? | |
| 12:23 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:23 | :-d | |
| 12:23 | cait | happy tcohen :) |
| 12:23 | tcohen | yay! |
| 12:24 | cait | how is it? |
| 12:24 | tcohen | identical :-D |
| 12:25 | cait | oh |
| 12:25 | same model as the stolen one? | |
| 12:25 | working on some accessibliity issues - anyone experience with that? | |
| 12:25 | and does anyone have a jquery to auto-check the 'show all checkouts'? | |
| 12:25 | tcohen | @later tell mtompset i don't get it. the problem is related to i686 setups, because we have hardcoded paths that don't work well on them I think |
| 12:25 | huginn` | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:26 | tcohen | hi Joubu |
| 12:27 | magnuse | cait: marc21 is supposed to store isbns without hyphens in 020? |
| 12:29 | cait | magnuse: afaik yes |
| 12:30 | germany stores the version with hyphens in 020$9 | |
| 12:30 | http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd020.html | |
| 12:30 | ...and the embedded hyphens may be generated for display. | |
| 12:30 | indradg | cait: is dashboard.koha-community.org cron updated? if so, any idea of the frequency? |
| 12:31 | magnuse | cait: ah yes, found it |
| 12:31 | cait | indradg: it depends on the information - some is done manualle |
| 12:31 | manually | |
| 12:31 | indradg | ok |
| 12:31 | cait | which one are you looking for? |
| 12:31 | magnuse | "The initialism ISBN, the phrase ISBN (invalid), and the embedded hyphens are not carried in the MARC record. They may be system generated as display constants associated with the content of subfields $a and $z, respectively." http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd020.html |
| 12:33 | tcohen | khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working |
| 12:33 | khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working | |
| 12:33 | khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working | |
| 12:33 | khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working | |
| 12:33 | khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working | |
| 12:33 | khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working | |
| 12:33 | khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working | |
| 12:33 | khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working | |
| 12:33 | khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working | |
| 12:33 | khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working | |
| 12:33 | khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working | |
| 12:33 | khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working | |
| 12:33 | cait | lol |
| 12:33 | khall | lol! |
| 12:33 | cait | khall++ |
| 12:33 | khall++ | |
| 12:33 | magnuse | khall++ tcohen++ |
| 12:33 | cait | khall++ |
| 12:33 | magnuse | khall++ tcohen++ |
| 12:33 | tcohen | i'm so happy and grateful |
| 12:34 | * cait | stops before khall starts flying :) |
| 12:34 | tcohen | i got it last friday |
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| 12:34 | tcohen | after a journey to the customs office in buenos aires |
| 12:35 | cait | i hope you could enjoy the time in ba a bit too? |
| 12:36 | tcohen | not at all |
| 12:37 | it all ended at 17:30 on the international airport | |
| 12:37 | outside the city | |
| 12:37 | i got back to buenos aires just in time to fly to cordoba | |
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| 12:37 | cait | oh |
| 12:37 | so flight - grab laptop - flight? | |
| 12:37 | tcohen | well, i bought cecilia a cute backpack |
| 12:37 | cait | heh |
| 12:37 | tcohen | :-D |
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| 12:46 | magnuse | weird. the source of http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]lkmarcimport.html says it was updated on "Mon May 11 05:16:36 2015 GMT" but it is missing the -cleanisbn/-nocleanisbn options which were added in 2011 |
| 12:49 | cait | hm maybe formatting ? |
| 12:49 | slef | hi all |
| 12:50 | cait | about my earlier question- found some jquery - now have to find out why something no longer shows on the braille line... any poiters appreciated |
| 12:50 | visibly the page looks the same :( | |
| 12:50 | hi slef | |
| 12:51 | slef | magnuse: I can't even see an update date, let alone which branch it was produced from |
| 12:52 | ah, there's an update date in a html source comment | |
| 12:52 | but no commit info? | |
| 12:52 | magnuse | it should be master |
| 12:52 | older versions would have urls like http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]lkmarcimport.html | |
| 12:53 | ping gmcharlt? | |
| 12:53 | the wiki says it is run by equinox | |
| 12:53 | slef | probably best next move |
| 12:54 | ok, here's my puzzle: has anyone seen the intranet layout suddenly go strange on MSIE? (I know MSIE is discouraged but government sites bleaaaah) | |
| 12:54 | the homepage boxes suddenly won't line up | |
| 12:55 | cait | slef: i didn't get any repots so far - we have one libararian that has to use ie because of her screen reader and other tools |
| 12:56 | slef: cache was deleted properly? | |
| 12:56 | because it DOES looks strange aftr an upgrade if you don't | |
| 12:57 | slef | cache was deleted properly, no upgrade at trigger time |
| 12:57 | I suspect a screen reader wouldn't be too affected by display problems | |
| 12:57 | cait | what does look strange? |
| 12:57 | no, but i got a report of things not showing on braille line that i have to figure out | |
| 12:58 | magnuse | slef: yeah, i have seen something like that |
| 12:59 | i have a customer where i can only access things through some screensharing tech via a windoze machine, and there the admin frontpage looks like someone bumped into the otherwise nicely stacked boxes | |
| 13:00 | ...in ie 11, i think it was? | |
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| 13:01 | * slef | checking |
| 13:01 | slef | but it's as magnuse describes |
| 13:01 | I can maybe take a screenshot if it would help | |
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| 13:30 | magnuse | have fun #koha! |
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| 13:35 | Talia | Hi everyone, we are using koha for quite some time now, but I still didnt find a way on customizing the index site.. It says important links here.. and i have no clue where to edit those texts.. I have only found this in the manual: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]4/en/impopac.html, but I dont know where to change the contents of those regions.. Would someone please be so kind and explained? |
| 13:40 | nengard | Hi Talia |
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| 13:44 | nengard | You need to go to Administration > Global System Preferences > OPAC and you'll see all the preferences you need to customize your OPAC |
| 13:46 | Talia | Thank you very much |
| 13:47 | nengard | @later tell drojf love the youtube integration!! Got a patch for me to test and sign off on?? :) |
| 13:47 | huginn` | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
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| 14:03 | pastebot | "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "jquery help - how do I remove the bar from urls display - this isn't working" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/102 |
| 14:05 | nengard | got any jquery experts in this morning - this should be easy - but I think becuase it's a bar character it's fighting with me |
| 14:17 | tcohen | nengard: any news from gmcharlt ? |
| 14:17 | nengard | nope |
| 14:18 | any juqery experts around to help with my above paste? | |
| 14:18 | or jquery | |
| 14:20 | cait | nengard: try escaping the | with \ |
| 14:20 | /\|/... | |
| 14:22 | nengard | cait++ |
| 14:23 | thank you - i knew that - i should have done that - but it's monday morning ;) | |
| 14:23 | cait | i recently had a similar thing |
| 14:23 | took me forever to figure out :) | |
| 14:24 | nengard | :) |
| 14:27 | slef | Hrm, the troublesome MSIE might be 9 or perhaps even 7. If 7, I can tell them to upgrade because a colleague of theirs uses 9 so it must be allowed. |
| 14:27 | I hate MSIE. | |
| 14:27 | nengard | we wont' support it ... |
| 14:33 | that's a solution :) | |
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| 14:52 | indradg | nengard: you use oxygen for doing the docbook to html conversion? |
| 14:52 | nengard | no, I use oxygen to write the docbook. bernardo has some magic script for the docbook to html and docbook to pdf part of things |
| 14:53 | the script runs nightly on the docbook to convert it and update the html | |
| 14:54 | indradg | ok! |
| 14:54 | nengard | :) |
| 14:55 | indradg | the generator tag in the html files seemed to suggest standard docbook-xsl chunking |
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| 15:16 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:19 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 16:23 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 16:23 | amyk | hello |
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| 18:50 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12743: ACQ: default values for catalogue records <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]32fe6e4fe6248d61c> / Bug 13758: Correct KOHA::VERSION in OverDrive.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]45a3ad71558bafaed> |
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| 19:40 | tcohen | nengard: done |
| 19:40 | i suppose we don't need to test other languages on master? | |
| 19:44 | nengard | awesome |
| 19:44 | and I don't know ... | |
| 19:44 | so tcohen will this page be updated? http://jenkins.koha-community.org/ | |
| 19:44 | I still don't see a 3.18 branch | |
| 19:45 | tcohen | nengard: not sure where are you looking |
| 19:45 | i'm looking at Koha_Docs | |
| 19:45 | nengard | and below that there is koha_docs for each branch |
| 19:45 | tcohen | which follows 'master' from the kohadocs.git repo |
| 19:46 | nengard | Koha_Docs |
| 19:46 | Koha_Docs_3.10.x | |
| 19:46 | Koha_Docs_3.12.x | |
| 19:46 | Koha_Docs_3.14.x | |
| 19:46 | Koha_Docs_3.16.x | |
| 19:46 | tcohen | ah, I see |
| 19:46 | nengard | Koha_Docs_3.8.x |
| 19:46 | no 3.18.x | |
| 19:46 | tcohen | i was fixing Koha_Docs (the one failing, which is the only problem i knew about :-D) |
| 19:46 | nengard | oh okay |
| 19:46 | I think my email a while ago mentioned that 3.18 wasn't being tracked | |
| 19:46 | tcohen | so u also expect a task to be testing 3.18 too? |
| 19:47 | nengard | but that was to the koha list |
| 19:47 | I would think so - the only two i maintain are master and one release back | |
| 19:47 | tcohen | ok, and only run xmllint on them, right? |
| 19:47 | nengard | I'm not sure what that is ... |
| 19:47 | All i know is that one day the manual was added to jenkins and i started getting emails :) | |
| 19:50 | tcohen | nengard: ok, the guys added some initial testing on the manual.xml file |
| 19:50 | at some point we could do more interesting stuff | |
| 19:50 | for now it is just a sanity check | |
| 19:51 | nengard | Sounds good to me |
| 19:51 | Thanks | |
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| 19:52 | tcohen | i created the 3.18 |
| 19:52 | but it seems i'm missing something | |
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| 19:52 | tcohen | you will now receive those emails twice :-P |
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| 20:55 | indradg | @seen bgkriegel |
| 20:55 | huginn` | indradg: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 8 weeks, 6 days, 4 hours, 48 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> :) |
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| 21:15 | rangi | nengard: you about? |
| 21:15 | nengard | yup |
| 21:15 | hola | |
| 21:15 | rangi | https://opensource.com/busines[…]ring-library-tech <-- could you get them to fix the link for koha? |
| 21:15 | good article otherwise :) | |
| 21:15 | nengard | crap ola!! How many times do I have to tell them |
| 21:16 | rangi | apparently 103 times |
| 21:16 | :) | |
| 21:16 | morning | |
| 21:16 | nengard | hehe |
| 21:16 | email sent | |
| 21:16 | thanks for catching | |
| 21:17 | rangi | actually ibeardslee caught it :) |
| 21:18 | nengard | well thanks ibeardslee |
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| 21:43 | nengard | rangi all fixed |
| 21:44 | rangi | yay thanks |
| 21:44 | eythian | hi |
| 21:48 | > would name a future business venture together Bywater after Bywater Pool of The Lord of the Rings. | |
| 21:48 | not Bywater the village that Bywater Pool is named after? | |
| 21:50 | nengard | hmmm |
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| 23:29 | dcook | Hehe. Looking at some of the spam in my inbox, and it's just... |
| 23:29 | It doesn't even have a way of suckering you in | |
| 23:29 | It's just pretty much nonsense | |
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