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| Time | Nick | Message | 
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| 00:13 | rocio left #koha | |
| 00:18 | dcook | Boo Koha. Why you timing out on me trying to update.. | 
| 00:18 | wizzyrea | maybe do it from the command line? | 
| 00:18 | dcook | Good call. I always forget that a person can do that. | 
| 00:19 | Hmm... | |
| 00:19 | eythian | the update process ought to be ajaxy where possible, to stop the timeout stuff. | 
| 00:19 | also you can show realtime progress | |
| 00:19 | dcook | PDF::FromHTML is marked as not required, but it definitely is throwing a fatal error.. | 
| 00:19 | eythian | yep. | 
| 00:19 | bug 8007 | |
| 00:19 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8007 new feature, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Discharge management | 
| 00:20 | dcook | :S | 
| 00:21 | That's... | |
| 00:22 | Why is Koha::Borrower::Discharge being loaded on the mainpage.pl :S | |
| 00:23 | Ahh, I see. That's... | |
| 00:24 | rangi | yeah im not a fan of the discharge work | 
| 00:24 | dcook | Can't say I am either :/ | 
| 00:24 | I remember seeing the emails, but I didn't know it was so pervasive :S | |
| 00:26 | I mean... no one outside of France would ever use this, yeah? | |
| 00:26 | rangi | yeah, i find it unlikely | 
| 00:26 | dcook | Seems like a lot of dependencies and integration for something many people will never use.. | 
| 00:26 | rangi | probably would have been better as a plugin | 
| 00:26 | dcook | I was just thinking that | 
| 00:33 | Ahh, turns out it doesn't need python. That's cool. I didn't realize that. | |
| 00:45 | Whew, at least master is fixed for that html issue I was having before.. | |
| 00:45 | * dcook | loves when that happens :) | 
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| 01:02 | dcook | Huh... I didn't know that POE was a required dependency in Koha | 
| 01:02 | Hmm... maybe I'll use it sometime... | |
| 01:03 | bug 11757 | |
| 01:03 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11757 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , dependency on POE is not longer necessary | 
| 01:03 | dcook | Maybe not :p | 
| 01:05 | I was actually thinking it might be handy for the OAI Harvester... | |
| 01:30 | mtj_ | hey peepz | 
| 01:31 | eythian: i'll aim to pull those jessie patches today | |
| 01:33 | ..thanks for the heads-up :0) | |
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| 02:12 | papa joined #koha | |
| 02:14 | * dcook | is intrigued by how much Australia and New Zealand seem to compete over the origins of pavlova and lamingtons. | 
| 02:14 | just had his first real pavlova last week | |
| 02:14 | dcook | Well, real "Australian" pavlova perhaps. Still haven't been to New Zealand.. | 
| 02:16 | eythian | just don't mention phar lap, dcook. | 
| 02:18 | dcook | O_O | 
| 02:18 | eythian | I do not understand the need for PDF::Writer at all. | 
| 02:18 | it's just a wrapper for other APIs | |
| 02:18 | ibeardslee | dcook: I assume that because we put kiwifruit on the pavola in NZ, the aussies put kangaroo 'fruits'? | 
| 02:18 | eythian | but we're able to choose what APIs we get to use. | 
| 02:18 | ibeardslee: they're called desert oysters. | |
| 02:18 | dcook | ibeardlee: hehe | 
| 02:19 | ibeardslee | and ignore my spelling | 
| 02:19 | eythian: heh | |
| 02:19 | dcook | My word sense is awful today, so I'm surprised that I'm even coherent at the moment | 
| 02:20 | ibeardslee | .. really? was that supposed to make sense? | 
| 02:20 | ;) | |
| 02:20 | dcook | :P | 
| 02:20 | eythian: that does look weird :/ | |
| 02:21 | And... it just uses PDF::API2 anyway, I assume? | |
| 02:22 | eythian | yeah | 
| 02:22 | dcook | I suppose I can't really fault folks for PDF::FromHTML itself though... | 
| 02:22 | eythian | oh | 
| 02:22 | dcook | I think I was a bit too impatient to use PDF::API2 directly, so I ended up using a PHP HTML to PDF type thing for a project | 
| 02:22 | eythian | I suppose that PDF::FromHTML is what really needs it | 
| 02:23 | dcook | Yeah, did you see my comment? | 
| 02:23 | eythian | no | 
| 02:23 | dcook | PDF::FromHTML pulls in PDF::Writer, the graphics module, Image::Size, and maybe something else? | 
| 02:23 | Don't know why Tomas included HTML::Tidy as a dependency... as I haven't seen it and it isn't a dependency for PDF::FromHTML? | |
| 02:24 | Unless we already have it installed... then maybe it is... | |
| 02:24 | * dcook | should check before he talks | 
| 02:24 | eythian | dcook: I don't really care, I can totally ignore that one and let stuff work itself out. | 
| 02:24 | dcook | Yeah, I guess we already had it installed.. | 
| 02:24 | Yeah? | |
| 02:24 | Didn't know that. Awesome :) | |
| 02:24 | eythian | well, the dependency list is autogenerated based on the PerlDependencies file | 
| 02:25 | dcook | Actually, I commented about that too | 
| 02:25 | eythian | so if I regenerate it, and dependencies aren't listed there, that's not my problem. | 
| 02:25 | dcook | At the moment, PDF::FromHTML is marked as not required, although it's totes required | 
| 02:25 | eythian | I make a bug and let whoever did it wrong in the first place sort it out. | 
| 02:25 | yeah | |
| 02:25 | that a bug. | |
| 02:26 | dcook | That was my thought. Wasn't sure if I should post a follow-up or let the original author do it | 
| 02:26 | eythian | up to you | 
| 02:27 | dcook | Whelp, I commented. If someone else doesn't do it in the next few days, then I'll do one | 
| 02:27 | eythian | yeah | 
| 02:27 | dcook | Too many things to work on at the moment :( | 
| 02:28 | Looks like some folks might want to sponsor the OAI harvester, so that might be nice | |
| 02:28 | I think it's actually almost completely functional. | |
| 02:28 | eythian | they need to be careful with that, my dependencies generator script will ignore things that aren't marked as required if it can't find a package for them. | 
| 02:28 | cool | |
| 02:28 | dcook | Not bad for having had zero support so far :) | 
| 02:29 | eythian: Yeah, I was wondering about that | |
| 02:44 | eythian | the author of one of these modules is 唐鳳. Let's see how well debian's systems handles unicode. | 
| 02:44 | (fairly well, would be my expectation tbh) | |
| 02:48 | dcook | Actually, I was parsing some data I have about my musical tastes... | 
| 02:48 | And somehow the Japanese characters were output nicer than the latin ones with accents | |
| 02:49 | As in, the Japanese characters were output correctly, while the French was replaced with blurred characters | |
| 02:49 | eythian | that means that your font doesn't have the accents, so it goes and finds one that does that's close. | 
| 02:49 | and that can end up looking weird | |
| 02:50 | dcook | Yeah, that was my thought | 
| 02:50 | As it was trying to force it into iso-whatever | |
| 02:50 | I assume it gave up on the Japanese and just said "Fine, I'll output utf8"? | |
| 02:50 | I think I used binmode to force it to output utf8 in the end and all was well in any case | |
| 02:51 | eythian | well, it would have had to look further to find a japanese supporting font, I guess | 
| 02:51 | and it just happened that was a nice looking one | |
| 02:52 | dcook | Hmm, interesting | 
| 02:52 | wahanui | interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad | 
| 02:52 | dcook | Exactly, wahanui. Exactly. | 
| 03:07 | eythian | OK, one package sent to debian for review. | 
| 03:08 | dcook | \o/ | 
| 03:08 | eythian | oh | 
| 03:08 | I missed things | |
| 03:08 | I always miss something | |
| 03:10 | in this case, committing my changes before sending it to upstream... | |
| 03:10 | dcook | I feel like this is the moment to heckle | 
| 03:10 | But I don't want to heckle | |
| 03:10 | :p | |
| 03:35 | wizzyrea | no, eythian is not deserving of heckles | 
| 03:37 | eythian | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFo332Y5uIA | 
| 03:37 | dcook | wizzyrea: Exactly | 
| 03:38 | eythian: hehe | |
| 03:38 | eythian | (unrelated, just the song that came on my playlist that I quite like :) | 
| 03:38 | dcook | :P | 
| 03:39 | I don't think I've ever actually listened to Anathema | |
| 03:39 | Always meant to... or always thought that I had? | |
| 03:39 | * dcook | thinks that he knows someone who is going to see them soon or recently has seen them... | 
| 03:40 | eythian | oh yeah? | 
| 03:40 | where? | |
| 03:40 | dcook | Either in Canada, America, or Australia? :p | 
| 03:40 | * dcook | needs to keep track of his contacts better | 
| 03:40 | dcook | or New Zealand, if you saw/are seeing them :p | 
| 03:40 | eythian | not me | 
| 03:41 | dcook | Hmm | 
| 03:41 | eythian | I'd totally go if they came here | 
| 03:41 | dcook | Oh! | 
| 03:41 | I know now | |
| 03:41 | They're going to be in Sydney in October | |
| 03:41 | A friend from Canberra is coming for the show | |
| 03:41 | Apparently they'll be in Christchurch | |
| 03:41 | 23 Oct | |
| 03:41 | Auckland Oct 24 | |
| 03:41 | eythian | yeah | 
| 03:42 | dcook | Oct is soon, yeah? | 
| 03:42 | :p | |
| 03:42 | eythian | heh | 
| 03:42 | they're not coming to Wellington annoyingly | |
| 03:43 | I wonder if I should consider going to Akl or to Syd... | |
| 03:43 | hell, or Melbourne, but it's been longer since I've been in Syd. | |
| 03:44 | dcook | Woo. Come to Syd! | 
| 03:46 | I actually have a few friends from Canada who are going to be in New Zealand around then. I'd almost thought of going over to NZ to grab beers with them | |
| 03:46 | Oh, if you have Wellington beer/bar recommendations I'd love to hear them | |
| 03:46 | Sean loooves his beer | |
| 03:46 | And I'll file them for my own reference :p | |
| 03:46 | eythian | dcook: haha | 
| 03:47 | do I have beer recommendations. | |
| 03:47 | you fool. | |
| 03:48 | dcook | hehe | 
| 03:48 | I knew you would, but the Canadian in me had to say "if" | |
| 03:48 | It's like we have to downplay everything out of politeness or something | |
| 03:48 | Actually, I'm starting to think maybe it's a Canadian prairie thing than just a Canadian thing | |
| 03:49 | I think Canadians from the prairies are some of the nicest people around | |
| 03:49 | You know... when they're not trying to fight your hockey team | |
| 03:50 | That's actually a pretty catchy song | |
| 03:50 | I think I might play it again... | |
| 03:57 | eythian | there's a link for the whole concert below | 
| 03:57 | if that's OK quality, go for htat. | |
| 04:01 | wizzyrea | generally speaking, prairie people are pretty nice, I've found. When they're not trying to shoot your face off with their concealed weapon. Maybe that's just Kansans. | 
| 04:04 | eythian | dozens of lintian errors from PDF::FromHTML :( | 
| 04:07 | mostly POD errors though | |
| 04:07 | but that's still annoying | |
| 04:11 | dcook | That sucks :( | 
| 04:11 | wizzyrea: Yeah, there are heaps of negative things I could say about back home as well. I suppose I have rose tinted glasses sometimes | |
| 04:11 | Not too many concealed weapons though. If someone is shooting at you, it's probably with a rifle from the back of a truck | |
| 04:12 | Which really only happened once outside my hometown as far as I know | |
| 04:12 | wizzyrea | this seems like an essential difference :P | 
| 04:12 | dcook | hehe | 
| 04:12 | wizzyrea | mind you, things are different there now even from when I was there | 
| 04:12 | worse. | |
| 04:12 | dcook | I'd actually like to see Saskatchewan now. I always got the impression that things were getting better | 
| 04:13 | Well, socially | |
| 04:13 | Economically, things were just weird | |
| 04:13 | Well, unreasonably expensive and weird | |
| 04:13 | * dcook | went to uni at the right time | 
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| 04:21 | dcook | Oh snap | 
| 04:21 | That moment when you notice all those Youtube playlists from years ago that you had forgotten about | |
| 04:23 | Keep thinking I need to resurrect my previous plans to build an app to manage my music metadata... | |
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| 04:24 | dcook | yo magnuse | 
| 04:24 | also yo aleisha :) | |
| 04:24 | aleisha | heya dcook | 
| 04:26 | * magnuse | waves | 
| 04:31 | wizzyrea | oh what was that thing I learned about the other day that was supposed to be god's gift to file deduplicating... | 
| 04:32 | eythian | http://paste.koha-community.org/86 <-- the errors from this stupid PDF::FromHTML package | 
| 04:33 | wizzyrea | drat I can't find it | 
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| 04:35 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. | 
| 04:35 | dcook | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! | 
| 04:35 | Yay for old youtube playlists! | |
| 04:35 | I've been looking for this song for soooo long! | |
| 04:35 | And keyword search has so not helped at all | |
| 04:37 | Also, yo mtompset | |
| 04:37 | wizzyrea: That sounds interesting | |
| 04:37 | mtompset | What song? | 
| 04:37 | wahanui | song is somewhat infectious. The video is a lot of vintage baseball footage, a baseball trivia geek's dream come true. | 
| 04:38 | mtompset | Greetings, dcook. | 
| 04:39 | dcook | Faith by Ronley Teper | 
| 04:39 | It's been an earworm for years now | |
| 04:41 | wizzyrea | https://twitter.com/nixcraft/s[…]94719192852467712 this one dcook | 
| 04:42 | vaguely related to your metadata issue | |
| 04:43 | dcook | Interesting! | 
| 04:43 | wahanui | i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad | 
| 04:46 | mtompset | Question. Has anyone actually implement something like what is described in bug 10105? | 
| 04:46 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10105 new feature, P5 - low, ---, indradg, ASSIGNED , Gate register module | 
| 04:49 | dcook | Not really the kind of thing our libraries do | 
| 04:50 | mtompset | I figure it is like a gym thing, tap to go in, maybe tap (or not) to go out. | 
| 04:50 | wizzyrea | you could ask Indra | 
| 04:51 | mtompset | I have. Awaiting a reply. :) | 
| 04:52 | I was also trying to play with the EDS koha plugin. | |
| 04:52 | Can't see to get the run tool to run. | |
| 04:53 | I'm thinking I need some apache configuration. | |
| 04:54 | dcook | I think the EDS plugin has a few extra bits, yeah | 
| 04:54 | I think you need to override your C4::Auth as well to get it to work | |
| 04:54 | overwrite* | |
| 04:55 | mtompset | And I think it might be 3.16 limited. | 
| 04:57 | dcook | Probably | 
| 04:57 | I think there have been a few versions released over the years | |
| 04:57 | I think the first was for 3.12 | |
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| 05:24 | eythian | .\" Accent mark definitions (@(#)ms.acc 1.5 88/02/08 SMI; from UCB 4.2). | 
| 05:24 | .\" Fear. Run. Save yourself. No user-serviceable parts. | |
| 05:29 | mtompset | You have got to be kidding me... LWP::Simple's get() doesn't do https?! | 
| 05:30 | eythian | https is rarely considered simple | 
| 05:34 | mtompset | fine, fine... but the EDS plugin busts, because the run tool won't run the https URLs. | 
| 05:35 | eythian | perhaps there's something else that needs to be installed for it | 
| 05:35 | that rings a bell actually | |
| 05:36 | mtompset | I've got LWP::Protocol::HTTPS installed. | 
| 05:38 | Well, it's late. I'm going to give up. | |
| 05:39 | eythian | package or cpan? | 
| 05:39 | mtompset | A plugin shouldn't require this much effort to get working. | 
| 05:39 | package. | |
| 05:39 | wahanui | package is, like, 'perldoc' | 
| 05:39 | eythian | https://packages.debian.org/wh[…]otocol-https-perl <-- do you have this too? | 
| 05:39 | mtompset | and the cpan version isn't newer. | 
| 05:39 | eythian | err | 
| 05:39 | this:libcrypt-ssleay-perl | |
| 05:40 | although, it oughtn't be necessary, but who know | |
| 05:40 | s | |
| 05:40 | mtompset | yes. | 
| 05:41 | eythian | dunno then. We're using the plugin in prod successfully, I can't remember doing any magic to make it work, but maybe there was some. | 
| 05:43 | mtompset | perhaps you have an earlier version of the plug in. | 
| 05:43 | They only added the https stuff in the recent version, I think. | |
| 05:43 | eythian | ah, may be. | 
| 05:48 | mtompset | I don't like having to un-https it to get it to work. | 
| 05:48 | Anyways... sleep. | |
| 05:48 | Have a great day, #koha eythian. | |
| 05:50 | dcook | I kind of want to do something with web sockets now... | 
| 05:51 | eythian | fix the update screen so it won't timeout | 
| 05:51 | dcook | hehe | 
| 05:51 | Well, in this case I'd be using Catalyst, which I think already has code for web sockets | |
| 05:51 | eythian | ah | 
| 05:51 | time to go | |
| 05:51 | later | |
| 05:51 | dcook | laters | 
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| 06:00 | magnuse | kia ora cait | 
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| 06:09 | cait | morning magnuse | 
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| 06:33 | reiveune | hello | 
| 06:33 | wahanui | kia ora, reiveune | 
| 06:36 | magnuse | @wunder boo | 
| 06:36 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on May 05, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). | 
| 06:36 | magnuse | ooh | 
| 06:36 | @wunder marseille | |
| 06:36 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on May 05, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). | 
| 06:36 | magnuse | yeah yeah ;-) | 
| 06:41 | woohoo for bug 12412 | |
| 06:41 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12412 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add ability for plugins to convert arbitrary files to MARC from record staging tool | 
| 06:42 | * magnuse | has not been keeping up with the commits on master... | 
| 06:48 | dcook | Oh, that sounds neat! | 
| 06:50 | * magnuse | shudders at the idea of "convert[ing] arbitrary files to MARC", but it is rather neat :-) | 
| 06:51 | magnuse | as long as marc is the only internal format we have | 
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| 06:58 | fridolin | hie | 
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| 07:04 | alex_a | bonjour | 
| 07:04 | wahanui | salut, alex_a | 
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| 07:27 | gaetan_B | hello | 
| 07:27 | wahanui | hi, gaetan_B | 
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| 07:37 | cait | morning #koha | 
| 07:50 | magnuse | @seen atheia | 
| 07:50 | huginn` | magnuse: atheia was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 3 days, 21 hours, 26 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <atheia> sounds good :-) | 
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| 07:55 | fridolin | Bug 14132 is ready to SO if someone is looking for a performance bug | 
| 07:55 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14132 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , suggestions table is missing indexes | 
| 08:43 | Viktor | Hi all of #koha and particularly @magnuse and @cait who never got a real greeting back yesterday :) | 
| 08:44 | cait | hi Viktor :) | 
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| 08:44 | cait | and hi ashimema :) | 
| 08:44 | * andreashm | waves | 
| 08:44 | cait | hi andreashm :) | 
| 08:44 | Viktor | On the Hi @andreashm | 
| 08:45 | andreashm | Hi cait! See, I can drop by during the daytime from time to time! =) | 
| 08:45 | hej Viktor! | |
| 08:45 | Viktor | andreashm Good to see you've also taken up the habit of keeping IRC active :) | 
| 08:45 | andreashm | viktor: skickade just ett mail till dig. | 
| 08:46 | Viktor: I'm trying at least. Hard to manage between everything else. =) | |
| 08:46 | cait | Viktor: the strings are not final yet- not sure when we enter complete string freeze hm | 
| 08:46 | andreashm: I see :) how is it going? | |
| 08:47 | Viktor | cait: The main problem is if the window between string freeze and release is long enough to do all the translation then or if I should just get them going right away | 
| 08:47 | cait | hm not sure really | 
| 08:47 | andreashm | Cait: Lots of things to juggle at the same time, trying to make sure things go smoothly while I stay at home with the newborn | 
| 08:48 | cait | oh1 | 
| 08:48 | ! | |
| 08:48 | andreashm | (Not born yet, but it'ls looming close now) | 
| 08:48 | cait | congratulations :) | 
| 08:48 | oh | |
| 08:48 | andreashm | it's | 
| 08:49 | Viktor | andreashm: It's an exiting time and must be allowed to be prio 1 :) But I guess you have a full schedule keeping the migration and everyting lined up while you're away :) | 
| 08:51 | * magnuse | wishes andreashm the best of luck :-) | 
| 08:51 | magnuse | Viktor: you probably do not want to upgrade before 3.20.1 anyway | 
| 08:52 | so in reality the window is bugger than from string freeze to just before release | |
| 08:53 | Viktor | magnuse: Very true :) | 
| 08:53 | andreashm | Viktor: Yup, kind of like that. | 
| 08:53 | cait | yeah that makes sense | 
| 08:53 | you could aim form the later release | |
| 08:54 | andreashm | Viktor trying to get some late development into 3.20? | 
| 08:54 | cait | maybe get them started on the big one with a small update for 3.20.1 | 
| 08:54 | Viktor | magnuse: We just always sort of forget to translate in time and get it up at .03 or so and I'd like to see a new release 100% sv-se at release ;) For the heck of it :) | 
| 08:55 | cait: Might be a good strategy of course. Will probably do that. | |
| 08:55 | magnuse | Viktor: good plan :-) | 
| 08:55 | and cait's plan is even better :-) | |
| 08:56 | Viktor | andreashm: No not really. Things will get in when they do :) | 
| 08:57 | andreashm | haha | 
| 08:58 | magnuse | huh, what did i do to install tidyp to get PDF::FromHTML to install? | 
| 09:00 | cait | cpan -f | 
| 09:02 | magnuse | does that work? i think the problem is a missing low level library | 
| 09:03 | cait | worked for me - but haven't tested the feature yet | 
| 09:03 | i am not sure what we will do there, robin did investigate last night it seems but it does't read good | |
| 09:04 | Viktor | There will be some sort of official communication about this later, but give xarragon or eskaaren a warm welcome if you see them around. They are two of the three developers we've hired :) | 
| 09:05 | cait | aah nice | 
| 09:05 | i have seen them both already | |
| 09:05 | but didn't make the connection :) | |
| 09:05 | Viktor | The third starts for real in late august and I'm not shure if theres a registered nick for Martin S yet :) | 
| 09:05 | cait | 3 devs - that's a lot | 
| 09:05 | what are you planning? :) | |
| 09:06 | Viktor | cait: Yep :) I will have my hands full just getting them things to work on :) | 
| 09:06 | (But it's 2 full time equivalents - 20%, 100% and 80%) | |
| 09:06 | cait | if you run out... I can help ) | 
| 09:06 | andreashm | haha | 
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| 09:08 | magnuse | Viktor: there are 2000+ bugs waiting for them in bugzilla ;-) | 
| 09:08 | Viktor | cait: That would actually be appreciated :) | 
| 09:08 | magnuse | Viktor++ for making things happen | 
| 09:09 | andreashm | Viktor++ | 
| 09:09 | Viktor | cait magnuse: First off is actually to focus on testing patches for a while. | 
| 09:09 | magnuse :) | |
| 09:09 | Then we have things lined up that we 1) need 2) want | |
| 09:09 | magnuse | that is an excellent start | 
| 09:10 | and there are ~160 nso to dig into | |
| 09:10 | fill up cait's queue ;-) | |
| 09:10 | Viktor | There are some things like sweden -specifik API-calls that we need to integrate in order to make Koha-adaptation speed up over here. | 
| 09:11 | cait | not onyl 'my' queue thankfully | 
| 09:11 | but i wish there was more time :( | |
| 09:12 | i'd really like if someone could give the final tax patches another look | |
| 09:12 | Viktor | But also sort of general things like tracking down ways that info of user behaviour might leak through external services, genereal workflow improvements etc. | 
| 09:12 | cait | especially someone with acq data | 
| 09:12 | Joubu fixed soem update issues i found, but i don't have a lot of test data | |
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| 09:12 | cait | hey drojf :) | 
| 09:13 | drojf | morning #koha | 
| 09:13 | hi cait :) | |
| 09:13 | Viktor | Then I'm thinking that we'd like do to more with the opac side in order to improve the offer for public libraries. Getting a smoother Koha as CMS-workflow for example. | 
| 09:13 | magnuse | yay | 
| 09:14 | cait | :) | 
| 09:14 | Viktor | cait: Tax patches migh be a bit over our head right now :/ We are still getting the hang of things with trivial patches and I have no experience with using ACQ. | 
| 09:14 | cait | ah, was worth trying :) | 
| 09:14 | drojf | meeting with role election thingy is tomorrow, right? | 
| 09:15 | cait | oh | 
| 09:15 | is there a wiki page yet? | |
| 09:15 | drojf | i have not seen a reminder :) | 
| 09:15 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]eeting_6_May_2015 | |
| 09:15 | * cait | volunteers drojf | 
| 09:15 | drojf | heh | 
| 09:15 | ok i can do it after the 3.18.6 mail to the german list | |
| 09:15 | cait | just to show Viktor how easy i can find things to do ;) | 
| 09:15 | drojf | (i hope we are done with revisions?) | 
| 09:16 | cait | i hope so too | 
| 09:17 | Viktor | :) | 
| 09:17 | xarragon | Viktor: Thanks for the announcement. | 
| 09:17 | * cait | waves | 
| 09:17 | magnuse | btw, what i did was: sudo apt-get install gcc; sudo cpanm Alien::Tidyp; sudo cpanm HTML::Tidy; sudo cpanm PDF::FromHTML | 
| 09:18 | * magnuse | waves to xarragon | 
| 09:18 | magnuse | ...from Bodø, Norway | 
| 09:18 | Viktor | xarragon It's a pleasure to have you on the team! | 
| 09:18 | * xarragon | waves back | 
| 09:20 | andreashm_away | off to lunch. bbl. | 
| 09:20 | magnuse | hm. on current master i am seeing something similar to Bug 12883 | 
| 09:20 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12883 major, P5 - low, ---, gmc, Pushed to Stable , Holds tab on checkout screen never stops processing | 
| 09:21 | magnuse | when i click on the holds tab it just shows "Processing..." forever | 
| 09:21 | xarragon | magnuse: I see you're also using CPANMinus. Love that tool myself, but for my Koha I have so far managed to use mostly debian jessie packages. What is the motivation for CPAN stuff? | 
| 09:21 | magnuse | the general rule is to always install from debian packages | 
| 09:22 | cait | xarragon: there is one new dependency we still have to package | 
| 09:22 | or maybe 2 | |
| 09:22 | magnuse | but PDF::FromHTML is a new dep that is not packaged for debian yet | 
| 09:22 | cait | we are trying to get that solved until release | 
| 09:22 | xarragon | Ah, the PDF stuff (which just broehd after my pull request yesterday)? | 
| 09:23 | I'll scroll back and look for details. Thanks for the warning/heads-up. | |
| 09:27 | magnuse | ah, it was a data problem | 
| 09:28 | xarragon | There is already a wish request for a debian package for that CPAN module (pdf::fromhtml), filed 4th of May 2015. Nice. | 
| 09:29 | cait | i thik that might have been robin last night | 
| 09:29 | robin = eythian | |
| 09:29 | xarragon: can you share a link? | |
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| 09:36 | * magnuse | does a happydance, then wanders off for lunch | 
| 09:36 | xarragon | cait: Sure. But it was just from the mailing list: https://www.mail-archive.com/d[…]g/msg1319477.html | 
| 09:36 | cait | ah yeah -that would be eythian :) | 
| 09:39 | * Viktor | wanders off for lunch too. | 
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| 12:06 | cait | thx khall++ | 
| 12:06 | khall | np! | 
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| 12:34 | carmen | hello and good morning #koha | 
| 12:35 | cait | hi carmen | 
| 12:35 | khall: did you see i had problems applying the hold patch? | |
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| 12:53 | * andreashm | waves | 
| 13:02 | magnuse | \o/ | 
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| 13:37 | tcohen | morning | 
| 13:38 | khall | mornin! | 
| 13:40 | tcohen | hi khall cait | 
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| 14:32 | fridolin | see u | 
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| 14:46 | Brooke | o/ | 
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| 16:35 | gaetan_B | bye | 
| 17:32 | bag | morning | 
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| 17:39 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. | 
| 17:39 | @seen khall | |
| 17:39 | huginn` | mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 1 minute, and 33 seconds ago: <khall> mornin! | 
| 17:40 | khall | what's up? | 
| 17:41 | mtompset | I was looking at the coverflow plugin. | 
| 17:42 | magnuse | bag: HI | 
| 17:42 | wahanui | kia ora, magnuse | 
| 17:42 | mtompset | I did the unthinkable... and uninstalled. :) | 
| 17:42 | It left some cruft behind. | |
| 17:42 | khall | lol! why? | 
| 17:42 | magnuse | nah, noone will ever want to do that :-) | 
| 17:42 | khall | yeah, I can understand that | 
| 17:42 | mtompset | Because I'm playing with plugins right now. | 
| 17:42 | tcohen | hi mtompset | 
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| 17:43 | mtompset | That whole JavaScript/minfied thing. | 
| 17:43 | khall | I'm not sure if that can be handled because some files are in a different namespace | 
| 17:44 | mtompset | The difficulty comes with knowing if any other plugins may be using that same file. | 
| 17:44 | Greetings, tcohen. :) | |
| 17:44 | tcohen | @later tell eythian do u think the PDF::FromHTML package can be built in a short term? | 
| 17:44 | huginn` | tcohen: The operation succeeded. | 
| 17:45 | * mtompset | screams in agony over the mention of PDF::FromHTML. ;) | 
| 17:46 | mtompset | tcohen: Did you peek at any on my noise reducing on the tests bugs? :) | 
| 17:46 | ^on^of^ | |
| 17:47 | tcohen | i saw them, but too busy taking on enhancements for 3.20 | 
| 17:47 | mtompset | Image a world where 'prove t' has no extraneous noise... it's within grasp. :) | 
| 17:47 | ^Image^Imagine^ | |
| 17:48 | tcohen | heh | 
| 17:49 | khall: would you take a look at my proposed solution for bug 14148? | |
| 17:49 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14148 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Bug 12412 breaks import if plugins are not enabled | 
| 17:49 | khall | tcohen: that looks like a fine solution to me! | 
| 17:50 | mtompset | What was it before that? | 
| 17:52 | Oh... and speaking of plugins. | |
| 17:53 | That 403 git issue... I had to do the same thing for my plugins directory too. | |
| 18:12 | pastebot | "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "looking for some jquery help i want every ; in the holdings_note to be replaced with a line break" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/88 | 
| 18:13 | "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "the html" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/89 | |
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| 18:21 | nengard | any jquery experts around - it's probably really simple I'm just missing one simple thing ... | 
| 18:21 | khall maybe you know ^^ | |
| 18:22 | khall | nengard: so that javascript isn't working? | 
| 18:22 | nengard | nope | 
| 18:22 | and i tried \; | |
| 18:22 | no luck | |
| 18:24 | khall | nengard: add a "console.log(h);" line above your return to see if it prints out the html | 
| 18:24 | nengard | hmm | 
| 18:24 | nope | |
| 18:25 | khall | nothing in your javascript error console? | 
| 18:25 | nengard | khall http://switch-temp.bywatersolu[…]blionumber=140539 | 
| 18:26 | two errors - not to do with this | |
| 18:26 | khall | nengard: there's a syntax error | 
| 18:26 | so your js is probably never being executed | |
| 18:26 | nengard | bingo | 
| 18:26 | sort of - refresh the page | |
| 18:27 | it's not replacing every one - just the first one | |
| 18:30 | khall | you need a regex, one moment | 
| 18:30 | tcohen | @seen cait | 
| 18:30 | huginn` | tcohen: cait was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 55 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <cait> khall: did you see i had problems applying the hold patch? | 
| 18:30 | khall | return h.replace('/;/g', '<br/>'); | 
| 18:31 | nengard: ^ | |
| 18:31 | return h.replace(/;/g, '<br/>'); | |
| 18:31 | my bad, it should look like this nengard^ | |
| 18:31 | I don't think a semi needs escaped, but it may | |
| 18:39 | mtompset | khall: How would you feel about a YAML-esque or JSON-esque system preference that stores the names of files unpacked for the plugins? | 
| 18:40 | khall | a syspref seems like an odd place to store it, but I've got no better idea! | 
| 18:41 | mtompset | Right, because if it were in the plugins dir, it would get accidentally overwritten. | 
| 18:41 | (by a poorly zip'd plugin) | |
| 18:44 | khall | I'd say the best solution is to smack me and tell me to fix my plugin | 
| 18:47 | pastebot | "barton" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Stack trace from label-edit-batch.pl -- clicking 'new batch' or 'manage batches' triggers Software error." (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/90 | 
| 18:47 | barton | ah, khall, I figured that you'd bounced already. | 
| 18:47 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11574 - Clean up Printing Lists <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f8696cab57861aba9> / Bug 14006: about.pl checks the wrong zebra index mode <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5b3f51d1ba21a4b79> / Bug 12671: Guess next serial date when there are several issues per unit. Added suppo... <http://git.koha-community.or | 
| 18:51 | mtompset | khall: That's one solution. | 
| 18:52 | The other solution was to fix the plugin delete functionality. | |
| 18:52 | tcohen | bye #koha | 
| 18:52 | mtompset | If you store the files associated with the archive in a string. | 
| 18:52 | Then you can check to see if the file is still used and if not delete it. | |
| 18:53 | Because assuming "everything below this directory" is a reasonable assumption, but obvious someone is going to break it, even the author of the plugin system. :P | |
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| 19:14 | chris_n | cait: bug 14152 | 
| 19:14 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14152 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Check for required dependencies during upgrades | 
| 19:14 | cait | i just got in chris_n - will look later | 
| 19:17 | magnuse | ooh, that sounds like a good idea | 
| 19:30 | mtompset | chris_n: I just tried it. | 
| 19:30 | It's not working right. | |
| 19:31 | It tells me I have all the dependencies even after I did a sudo apt-get purge libpdf-fromhtml-perl | |
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| 19:36 | chris_n | mtompset: libpdf-fromhtml-perl is not currently marked as a required dep | 
| 19:37 | you will have to edit your PerlDependencies.pm file and change that | |
| 19:37 | mtompset | Shouldn't that be part of your patch?! | 
| 19:37 | I'll test that case though. | |
| 19:37 | chris_n | no, that is a separate bug | 
| 19:37 | still in discussion | |
| 19:37 | wahanui | i think in discussion is probably good | 
| 19:37 | chris_n | sometimes wahanui | 
| 19:37 | wahanui | sometimes i am more trouble than she's worth | 
| 19:37 | mtompset | number? | 
| 19:37 | wahanui | number is going down too fast | 
| 19:37 | chris_n | om | 
| 19:38 | bug 14103 | |
| 19:38 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Needs Signoff , Discharge management: Software error on main page after upgrade - Missing dependencies on About page | 
| 19:39 | chris_n | seems hector has submitted a patch to do that | 
| 19:40 | mtompset: either that or remove a dep currently marked as required | |
| 19:44 | rangi | https://www.bugzilla.org/relea[…]e-notes.html#feat | 
| 19:45 | some nice features coming in 5.0 | |
| 19:45 | i wont upgrade until after the 3.20 release though | |
| 19:51 | mtompset | Feel free to edit my revised test plan, chris_n. I signed off. :) | 
| 19:52 | It's a nice change. Though, I don't know why you did negative checking 'noop', instead of positive checking 'updatestructure'. | |
| 19:54 | chris_n | mtompset: probably just failed to swap the logic after several iterations | 
| 19:54 | * chris_n | went through a couple of contortions before arriving at the present solution :-P | 
| 19:56 | chris_n | thanks mtompset; my sentiments exactly on the package in question :-) | 
| 19:57 | cait | morning rangi | 
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| 19:59 | chris_n | heya rangi | 
| 19:59 | cait | chris_n: mtompset: i am in doubt about making it mandatory - i think it woudl be better to alter the code | 
| 19:59 | chris_n | I agree | 
| 19:59 | cait | to make it check for an activated discharge feature | 
| 19:59 | but not sure how to do that | |
| 19:59 | * chris_n | thinks required deps should be kept to a bare minimum | 
| 20:00 | chris_n | time to head out | 
| 20:03 | * rangi | has to get kids to school, bbl | 
| 20:09 | mtompset | cait: That is a specific case. The code is still a useful patch for more normal cases. :) | 
| 20:09 | cait | hm? | 
| 20:10 | mtompset | Let me just try with libxml-libxslt-perl | 
| 20:14 | Hmmm... | |
| 20:14 | no blow up.... | |
| 20:16 | okay... I'm not sure how to trigger the blow up that proves it should be required. | |
| 20:17 | But the patch does catch the need for it. :) | |
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| 20:42 | mtompset | found the blowup, cait: OPAC searching. | 
| 20:48 | drojf | good night #koha | 
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| 21:02 | mveron | Good evening / daytime #koha | 
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| 22:07 | eythian | hi | 
| 22:15 | @later tell tcohen yes, totally. It probably just requires fixing up the documentation, I didn't see anything worse than that that would prevent it being packaged. | |
| 22:15 | huginn` | eythian: The operation succeeded. | 
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