IRC log for #koha, 2015-05-06

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00:04 tcohen joined #koha
00:05 tcohen morning/evening
00:05 eythian: thanks for the fast reply
00:05 eythian hi tcohen
00:05 tcohen and great intro for people building debian packages
00:06 eythian ta
00:06 tcohen i really tried myself, but when it tool me more than 20 minutes to figure... and saw the amount of enhancements on my queue...
00:06 *took
00:06 eythian yeah, it took me a while the first couple of times
00:07 tcohen i successfuly built the dependencies on your jessie box and used them on all jenkins nodes before pushing the feature
00:07 my main problem was figuring how to patch the packages so they are suitable for Debian
00:07 eythian cool.
00:07 yeah, I just learnt quilt recently. Turns out it's stupidly easy.
00:08 tcohen one thing that bothered me was that one of them wasn't pulling the right deps
00:08 it would build, and install
00:08 but it would break in the absence of html::tify
00:08 tidy
00:09 eythian yep
00:09 I had the same thing
00:09 I just now added to that wiki page: "...sometimes the module metadata doesn't contain everything."
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01:46 Jaimeco Hello everybody
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01:47 Jaimeco Anybody can tell me if KOHA is a distributed system. I mean, if I am interested in collect information in diferent islands and sync all of them in central server. Is any documentation about that?
01:48 eythian Jaimeco: it's web based, so you can have a central server that's accessed from anywhere you like.
01:50 Jaimeco Yes I know that. But, in my case I need to have several Libraries with a poor internet connection and if a lost connection all services lost too. Is there any way to sync different servers with different levels of acces and information ?
01:51 eythian the only level you can do that with that's integrated into Koha is with circulation.
01:52 there is an offline circulation module
01:52 Jaimeco By example: Lib1 has 2000 book in catalog, lLib2 has 100. Lib2 has a poor internet connection to the central server Lib1. When the connection returns can continue with sync? Is the way of the offline works?
01:53 eythian I'm not really sure of the details of how it works, just that it exists.
01:53 Jaimeco If I understand, in the catalog level I cannot lost the internet connection?
01:54 Ok, thanks for the advice.
01:54 eythian you can't catalogue if there is no internet connection.
01:55 Jaimeco Ok, but if the internet connection returns, the slave server or the island server syncs with the central?
01:56 eythian no, it'll just be that you can't do the things while there is no connect, just like any other web page.
01:57 Jaimeco ok, thank you.
01:58 If i have two Libreries in different universities How can share their catalogs. Koha support that model?
01:58 *Libraries.
01:59 eythian yes, though it depends on exactly how they want to do it really.
02:00 they can share one catalogue, or there are methods for telling Koha to search another catalogue too.
02:01 Jaimeco Ok ok, interesting. Could you so kind to bring me some link, In the website I don't locate information like that.
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02:02 eythian Jaimeco: well, to share one catalogue is simple: they just share one catalogue.
02:02 I don't know how to set up the integrated searching of other catalogues, I've never had to do it.
02:03 wizzyrea the bug for remote searching of z39.50 targets - did that ever actually make it in?
02:04 eythian I don't actually know. I kinda just assumed so.
02:31 mtompset eythian: Packaging?
02:31 The wiki is tweaked?
02:31 eythian mtompset: ambidextral!
02:32 feoffor!
02:32 I'm sure there are other context-free words I can mention, too :)
02:32 mtompset Scroll back 2 hours to your chat with tcohen. :P
02:33 It's not completely context free. :P
02:33 eythian it still is, as I have no idea what you are asking, even with that in mind.
02:35 mtompset I was trying to understand the context of "yes, totally. It probably just requires fixing up the documentation, I didn't see anything worse than that that would prevent it being packaged."
02:36 eythian scroll back 11 hours to tcohen's message to me
02:37 mtompset Okay... I'll pop up an IRC log window then. :P
02:38 Oh, the whole PDF::FromHTML pain.
02:39 So, no packaging wiki documentation has been tweaked yet?
02:39 eythian I'm not sure what you're asking
02:40 mtompset http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_Debian_Packages nor http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]es_-_The_Easy_Way have been updated then?
02:40 eythian I haven't touched them at all.
02:41 http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bian_Dependencies instead, I wrote this
02:41 mtompset I was hoping for divine packaging instructional updates from above. :)
02:41 eythian because they cover a totally different topic
02:41 mtompset Yes, tangentially related though.
02:42 eythian only in the sense that a .deb comes out the other end.
02:42 wizzyrea I had a terrible mental image just now.
02:42 mtompset I'm not sure I want to go there.
02:43 wizzyrea you really don't
02:44 mtompset unrelated thought: JSON or YAML for serialization of data in a systempreference? Which is preferred?
02:46 eythian human editable?
02:46 mtompset No.
02:46 Won't appear in any tab.
02:47 eythian why's it in system preferences then?
02:47 mtompset Well, can't figure a better place to stick it?
02:47 Here's the problem being contemplated.
02:48 Bywater's CoverFlow plugin.
02:48 eythian it just feels to me that system preferences should be for system ..well.. preferences.
02:48 mtompset creates a JavaScript directory beside the Koha directory.
02:48 but the delete process for plugins only deletes from the Koha directory.
02:49 I was pondering storing the list of files a plugin extracts somewhere to use to clean up the plugin after.
02:49 where would I put that list?
02:49 eythian somewhere that's not system preferences.
02:49 it's own table maybe
02:50 wizzyrea add something to the plugins table?
02:50 eythian it seems to be calling out for a generalised solution, and shoehorning into an existing solution is almost never an answer to that.
02:51 mtompset Hmmm... I suppose its own table might be a better idea....
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02:52 mtompset eythian++ # great sounding board. :)
02:54 wizzyrea ah the building is swaying in the breeze
02:58 mtompset If a patch doesn't work, but I fix it (tweak <button> tag to <a> tag), can I still sign it off?
02:59 eythian If it's a really small change, probably. If it's not really small, I'd make a followup patch.
02:59 changing a tag probably counts as small enough
02:59 mtompset Literally, it is just that tag. One stinking tag... I hate leaving something in Failed QA, because of it.
03:00 bug 11941
03:00 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11941 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , "Patron lists" are not easily accessible
03:00 eythian yeah, I'd just fix it
03:00 assuming it doesn't affect the accessibility (I can't see why it would)
03:00 or make a followup
03:00 either or
03:01 mtompset it's a matter of does it click or not. If it doesn't click, it's kind of pointless.
03:02 wizzyrea well that's a bootstrap thing - are there javascript errors on that one?
03:02 the button
03:04 mtompset No, because there is no onclick event.
03:04 I was looking for javascript errors.
03:04 Perhaps I should try in Chrome.
03:07 Nope... button to a it is.
03:20 wizzyrea yeah, I think just a counter patch
03:20 because it's just wrong.
03:22 as that is like, the essence of the patch I really think you should get credit as the author.
03:24 mtompset wizzyrea: Fixing bugs isn't about credit.
03:24 wizzyrea yeah, but his fix didn't fix it
03:24 yours did
03:24 mtompset Yes, but I wouldn't have made mine, if he didn't do his first.
03:25 I really don't have an issue with him getting credit on it. :)
03:25 wizzyrea fair enough, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this point.
03:27 mtompset Okay. :) The other reason is... counter patches tend to slow down the process of getting features and fixes into the system. I don't want to do that.
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03:34 wizzyrea for funsies, I'll sign off on your patch, just so no one can get antsy about you signing off on something that isn't the original patch.
03:34 ..if I can get bz to work. heh.
03:36 haha dumb, I'm locked out of my account.
03:37 eythian heh
03:45 mtompset DOH! :)
03:46 @later tell khall I just tried to get the http://bywatersolutions.com/koha-plugins/ LastPatronActivity report plug in to work.
03:46 huginn` mtompset: The operation succeeded.
03:46 mtompset @later khall No, it doesn't even get listed or show up. :(
03:46 huginn` mtompset: I suck
03:47 mtompset @later tell khall No, it doesn't even get listed or show up. :(
03:47 huginn` mtompset: The operation succeeded.
03:47 mtompset huginn`: I sucked, I forgot to tell you to tell. :)
03:47 huginn` mtompset: I suck
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03:51 wizzyrea sigh, 2 minutes to unlock.
03:51 annoying.
03:57 phew there it is
04:13 eythian staff client search has far, far too much going on in the .pl file for it :/
04:14 wizzyrea hm, which one are you looking at, the cataloguing one or the standard one?
04:14 because I'd be happy if you merged the two searches.
04:15 eythian oh
04:15 I'm looking at catalogue/search.pl
04:15 I forgot there were two.
04:15 wizzyrea that's the standard one :)
04:16 actually I'd love if they were consistent between them.
04:16 eythian yeah
04:16 I might see if I can make it modular, to start with
04:16 then I can replace the bits I need to replace for ES
04:16 wizzyrea maybe "show cataloguer-y things when searched from here" but with the same results.
04:17 because right now they aren't consistent.
04:17 eythian yeah, that should really just be loading a different template/XSLT or something
04:17 wizzyrea ^^ all of that.
04:18 mtompset wizzyrea++ # thanks for the collaborating sign off. :)
04:45 wizzyrea no worries :)
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05:25 mtompset with all the headaches of PDF::FromHTML...
05:25 Anyone care to sign off my counter-patch on bug 14103?
05:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Needs Signoff , Discharge management: Software error on main page after upgrade - Missing dependencies on About page
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05:32 mtompset Greetings, magnuse.
05:32 * magnuse waves
05:32 magnuse bbiab, though
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06:12 mtompset Well, don't know if I'll be awake in <4 hours, but we'll see.
06:13 Have a great day, #koha magnuse laurence cdickinson wizzyrea eythian
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06:23 * magnuse waves again
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06:30 reiveune hello
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06:49 fridolin hie
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06:56 alex_a bonjour
07:04 magnuse bonjour france
07:04 @wunder boo
07:04 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on May 06, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
07:04 magnuse woohoo, double digits!
07:04 @wunder marseille
07:04 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on May 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
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07:24 drojf morning #koha
07:25 @wunder berlin, germany
07:25 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 14.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on May 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
07:29 drojf did we hammer the website from that support provider request? it does not load for me
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07:30 gaetan_B hello
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08:20 drojf quiet morning
08:20 * drojf pours coffee in #koha
08:22 magnuse that sounds messy ;-)
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08:35 drojf but it woke you up :D
08:36 magnuse it sure did
08:36 especially since i don't drink coffee ;-)
08:37 drojf it's all about the hot sensation when it rains into the irc channel ;)
08:38 magnuse lulz
08:38 the picture i got in my head was of coffee in everyone's keyboards...
08:39 drojf that sounds lovely too :)
08:40 magnuse yeah, a real productivity boost
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09:00 magnuse tjänare Viktor
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09:34 * cait waves
09:34 cait was in a meeting :)
09:36 drojf hi cait :)
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09:44 cait meeting in 16?
09:47 magnuse gah, so it is i believe
09:47 drojf i think so
09:47 might be a short one
09:47 unless a lot of people rush in soon ;)
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09:50 cait do we only have 1 meeting today?
09:50 Brooke mebbe :)
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09:52 thd I have preferred the two meetings arrangement but I recognise the problems of lack of continuity and cohesiveness.
09:55 cait seems the channel is filling up a bit
09:56 thd Perhaps filling with more zombies like me.
09:57 cait what time is it for you thd?
09:57 Brooke 6
09:57 it's not that bad
09:57 cait btw drojf++ for sending the reminder
09:57 Brooke drofj++ that's why I'm here
09:58 drojf yay! successful reminding :)
09:58 thd 6 am but I had worked into the morning relieving someone at a local bookshop.
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09:59 cait hey eythian :)
09:59 eythian_ Hi
09:59 wahanui hi, eythian_
09:59 cait one more minute
09:59 everyone grab some coffee/tea
09:59 magnuse who will chair?
09:59 cait i can
10:00 eythian_ I had a nice Belgian beer, does that count?
10:00 Brooke beer > coffee
10:00 cait eythian: as long as you are coherent and awake the beverage is ok
10:00 eythian_ It was only one :-)
10:00 thd cait: The bug which you identified for links to wiki pages with the same name as a category may be a MediaWiki bug in some respect.
10:01 cait :)
10:01 ok, starting now
10:01 #startmeeting General IRC Meeting, 6 May 2015
10:01 huginn` Meeting started Wed May  6 10:01:20 2015 UTC.  The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
10:01 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
10:01 Topic for #koha is now  (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 6 May 2015)
10:01 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting__6_may_2015'
10:01 Brooke thd are you sure that isn't patched or ameliorated by a missing extension?
10:01 cait #Topic Introductions
10:01 Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 6 May 2015)
10:01 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
10:01 cait please introduce yourself with #info, following wahanui's example
10:01 #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ Germany
10:02 eythian_ #info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT
10:02 drojf #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany
10:02 magnuse #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway
10:02 thd Brooke: It may be patched but we need to migrate databases to MySQL before upgrading.
10:02 fridolin #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France
10:02 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand
10:02 * magnuse might have to run out with the dog soon
10:03 cait thd? :)
10:03 indradg #info Indranil Das Gupta, Kolkata, India
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10:04 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City [most wasteful megacity on the planet]
10:04 jacetms Test
10:04 cait jacetms: are you here for the meeting too?
10:04 in that case please introduce yourself with #info name institution coutry or similar :)
10:05 ok, moving on then
10:05 #topic Announcements
10:05 Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 6 May 2015)
10:05 cait anyone any announcements? :)
10:06 quiet
10:06 quite sunny here today... but not sure if htat counts :) I am moving on then
10:07 eythian_ Do you want our storm?
10:07 cait #topic Updates on Releases
10:07 Topic for #koha is now Updates on Releases (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 6 May 2015)
10:07 cait eythian: already got soaked on the way to work this morning - you can keep ti :)
10:07 I think even without tcohen being here it's save to say: the 3.20 release is close!
10:07 I'd like to remind everyone to help out fixing outstanding problems as logged on bugzilla
10:07 i think we have one blocker that needs testing currently
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10:08 cait ah my bad, it needs QA - bug 14148
10:08 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14148 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Bug 12412 breaks import if plugins are not enabled
10:08 cait but anyway, please keep testing and keep an eye out for new things that might pop up
10:08 Brooke argh how is that low priority :/
10:09 cait Brooke: we don't really use prio
10:09 Brooke: the imporant bit is that it's a blocker
10:09 eythian_ There's a package missing for 3.20 too, I might have time to get it done, but I also gave instructions for people to help me with it in case I can't.
10:10 cait eythian: do you have the bug number at hand?
10:10 magnuse maybe also a reminder to start translating?
10:10 eythian_ One mo
10:10 cait #info Release of 3.20 getting close - please keep testing and help resolve release critical issues!
10:10 I think there has been an email from bernardo - but the po files will have another update
10:10 so it#s not the final strings yet, but people can already start
10:10 eythian_ Bug 14103
10:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Needs Signoff , Discharge management: Software error on main page after upgrade - Missing dependencies on About page
10:11 cait #info Bug 14103 - missing dependency - please help there if you can!
10:12 there is also a patch to test there - making sure the page doesn't explode if the dependency is missing and the feature is unused (afaik) - so signing that off would help too i think
10:12 ok, moving on?
10:13 eythian_ Yeah that's a good solution too
10:13 cait no vetos, one sec
10:13 #topic Voting for 3.22 Release Team
10:13 Topic for #koha is now Voting for 3.22 Release Team (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 6 May 2015)
10:14 cait ok
10:15 the list of voluteers and roles is at
10:15 #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.22
10:15 I suggest we start at the top and work our way through to the bottom, voting by heading - so release maintainers as a group, module maintainers, qa team etc.
10:15 is that procedure ok?
10:15 drojf +1
10:15 eythian_ Sure
10:16 magnuse sorry, i gotta run, but all the volunteers have my vote :-)
10:16 fridolin ok
10:16 cait does somene know how to see the help for the vote command?
10:16 eythian_ Especially as I'm within throwing things distance of the next maintainers :-)
10:17 drojf lol
10:17 cait don't kill them before 3.22 is out
10:17 ... well... don't throw too hard things
10:17 eythian_ Only soft things then ;-)
10:17 cait #vote Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi - please indicate your vote with yes or no
10:17 * eythian_ orders a nerf gun
10:18 cait hm that didn't work
10:18 one sec
10:18 #startvote Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi - please indicate your vote with yes or no
10:18 huginn` Unable to parse vote topic and options.
10:18 eythian_ Do you finish it with "yes, no"?
10:19 cait #vote Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi?  Yes, No,
10:19 drojf #help vote
10:19 nope
10:19 cait #startvote Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi?  Yes, No,
10:19 huginn` Begin voting on: Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi? Valid vote options are Yes, No, .
10:19 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:19 cait needs a question mark and options
10:19 i looked it up
10:19 #vote Yes
10:19 eythian_ #vote yes
10:19 drojf #vote yes
10:19 davidnind #vote Ye
10:19 huginn` davidnind: Ye is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No, .
10:19 thd #vote Yes
10:20 davidnind #vote Yes
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10:20 cait #showvote
10:20 huginn` Yes (5): eythian_, davidnind, cait, drojf, thd
10:20 Teejay #info Tunji Adepeju Projektlink Konsult, Nigeria
10:20 cait no more?
10:20 hi Teejay
10:21 we are voting for Tomas Cohen Arazi as release manager for 3.22 right now, do you want to add your vote?
10:21 it's #vote Yes/No
10:21 Joubu #vote yes
10:21 #info Jonathan Druart
10:21 cait hi Joubu :)
10:21 #showvote
10:21 huginn` Yes (6): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, thd, drojf
10:21 Joubu :)
10:21 cait #endvote
10:21 huginn` Voted on "Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi?" Results are
10:21 Yes (6): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, thd, drojf
10:21 Teejay Yes please . That will be splendid
10:22 cait ah
10:22 #agreed Release Manager for 3.22 is Tomas Cohen Arazi (6+1 yes)
10:23 Teejay See
10:23 Seems I came in late. Apologies, please
10:23 cait #startvote Release Maintainers: 3.20 - Chris Cormack, 3.18 - Liz Rea, 3.16 - Mason James, 3.14 - Fridolin Somers? Yes, No
10:23 huginn` Begin voting on: Release Maintainers: 3.20 - Chris Cormack, 3.18 - Liz Rea, 3.16 - Mason James, 3.14 - Fridolin Somers? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:23 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:23 cait Teejay: not a problem, jump right in :)
10:23 davidnind #vote Yes
10:23 cait #vote yes
10:23 drojf #vote yes
10:23 Brooke #info Bueno. Tomas es gracioso
10:23 eythian_ #vote yes
10:23 Teejay Yes
10:24 AndroUser2 Yes
10:24 cait please add the #vote in front - then the bot can count them :)
10:24 Joubu #vote yes
10:24 Teejay #vote yes
10:24 AndroUser2 #vote yes
10:24 thd #vote Yes
10:24 cait ending the vote
10:24 #endvote
10:24 huginn` Voted on "Release Maintainers: 3.20 - Chris Cormack, 3.18 - Liz Rea, 3.16 - Mason James, 3.14 - Fridolin Somers?" Results are
10:24 Yes (8): Joubu, davidnind, cait, Teejay, eythian_, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:25 cait #agreed Release Maintainers: 3.20 - Chris Cormack, 3.18 - Liz Rea, 3.16 - Mason James, 3.14 - Fridolin Somers (8 yes)
10:25 next up are the module maintainers
10:25 * fridolin fully agree
10:25 eythian_ AndroUser2: you should introduce yourself with #info :-)
10:26 cait #startvote Module Maintainers: Authentication - Martin Renvoize, Tools - Jonathan Druart, REST API - Kyle Hall? Yes, No
10:26 huginn` Begin voting on: Module Maintainers: Authentication - Martin Renvoize, Tools - Jonathan Druart, REST API - Kyle Hall? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:26 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:26 cait please keep an eye out os i don't miss someone :)
10:26 davidnind #vote Yes
10:26 indradg #vote Yes
10:26 drojf #vote yes
10:26 cait #vote yes
10:26 eythian_ #vote yes
10:26 Joubu #vote yes
10:26 fridolin #vote Yes
10:26 thd #vote Yes
10:26 cait #showvote
10:26 huginn` Yes (8): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:26 Joubu too bad not to see all entries filled
10:27 cait agreed, maybe some others will step up and we can have another vote next meeting
10:27 #endvote
10:27 huginn` Voted on "Module Maintainers: Authentication - Martin Renvoize, Tools - Jonathan Druart, REST API - Kyle Hall?" Results are
10:27 Yes (8): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:27 cait #agreed Module Maintainers: Authentication - Martin Renvoize, Tools - Jonathan Druart, REST API - Kyle Hall (8 yes)
10:27 #startvote Translation manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel? Yes, No
10:27 huginn` Begin voting on: Translation manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:27 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:28 cait #vote yes
10:28 davidnind #vote Yes
10:28 drojf #vote yes
10:28 eythian_ #vote yes
10:28 thd #vote Yes
10:28 fridolin #vote Yes
10:29 cait #showvote
10:29 huginn` Yes (6): davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, thd, drojf
10:29 cait #endvote
10:29 huginn` Voted on "Translation manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel?" Results are
10:29 Yes (6): davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, thd, drojf
10:29 cait #agreed Translation manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel (6 yes)
10:29 indradg #vote yes
10:29 cait ah
10:30 drojf you are too fast :)
10:30 cait #agreed Translation manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel (6+1 yes)
10:30 i am sorry :)
10:30 is it ok when we combine the next 2?
10:30 (database) documentation manager?
10:30 fridolin yes, logic
10:30 davidnind yep
10:30 eythian_ Seems reasonable
10:30 indradg +1
10:31 drojf +1
10:31 cait #startvote (Database) Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard? Yes, No
10:31 huginn` Begin voting on: (Database) Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:31 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:31 indradg #vote yes
10:31 davidnind #vote Yes
10:31 cait #vote yes
10:31 thd They have been inseperable.
10:31 drojf #vote yes
10:31 Joubu #vote yes
10:31 eythian_ #vote yes
10:31 fridolin #vote yes
10:31 thd #vote Yes
10:31 Teejay #vote yes
10:31 cait :)
10:31 warning, ending in a bit
10:31 indradg :)
10:31 Joubu say "#vote yes" for @questions;
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10:32 cait heh
10:32 #endvote
10:32 huginn` Voted on "(Database) Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard?" Results are
10:32 Yes (9): Joubu, davidnind, cait, Teejay, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:32 AndroUser2 #vote yes
10:32 thd s/inseperable/inseparable/
10:32 cait #agreed (Database) Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard (9 yes)
10:32 handing the chari now over to drojf
10:32 #chair drojf
10:32 huginn` Current chairs: cait drojf
10:32 AndroUser2 # ote yes nicole engard for documentation mngr
10:33 drojf ok next we have quality assurance, manager and team. starting with manager
10:33 #startvote Quality Assurance (QA) Manager: Katrin Fischer? Yes, No
10:33 huginn` Begin voting on: Quality Assurance (QA) Manager: Katrin Fischer? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:33 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:33 AndroUser2 (AndroUser2) #vote yes nicole engard for documentation mngr
10:33 davidnind #vote Yes
10:33 drojf #vote yes
10:33 Joubu AndroUser2: please introduce yourself
10:33 eythian_ #vote yes
10:33 thd #vote Yes
10:33 AndroUser2 #info Ram Migrino
10:34 drojf #showvote
10:34 huginn` Yes (4): eythian_, davidnind, thd, drojf
10:34 Joubu #vote yes
10:34 fridolin #vote Yes
10:34 cait #agreed (Database) Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard (9+1 yes)
10:34 indradg #vote yes
10:34 drojf #showvote
10:34 huginn` Yes (7): Joubu, davidnind, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:34 drojf closing soon
10:35 #endvote
10:35 huginn` Voted on "Quality Assurance (QA) Manager: Katrin Fischer?" Results are
10:35 Yes (7): Joubu, davidnind, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:35 drojf #agreed Quality Assurance (QA) Manager: Katrin Fischer? (7 yes)
10:35 and caits team…
10:35 #startvote Quality Assurance (QA) Team: Marcel de Rooy, Paul Poulain, Kyle Hall, Jonathan Druart, Brendan Gallagher, Martin Renvoize? Yes, No
10:35 huginn` Begin voting on: Quality Assurance (QA) Team: Marcel de Rooy, Paul Poulain, Kyle Hall, Jonathan Druart, Brendan Gallagher, Martin Renvoize? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:35 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:36 eythian_ #vote yes
10:36 cait #vote YES
10:36 drojf #vote yes
10:36 fridolin cait: your the best ;)
10:36 thd #vote Yes
10:36 fridolin #vote yes
10:36 davidnind #vote Yes
10:36 cait qa-team++ :)
10:36 indradg #vote yes
10:36 drojf #showvote
10:36 huginn` Yes (7): davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:36 Joubu #vote yes
10:37 AndroUser2 #vote yes katrin fischer QA manager
10:37 huginn` AndroUser2: yes katrin fischer QA manager is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No.
10:37 drojf AndroUser2: just "#vote yes" is enough
10:37 AndroUser2 #vote yes
10:38 drojf #showvote
10:38 huginn` Yes (9): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:38 drojf closing soon
10:38 AndroUser2 huginn: thanks!
10:38 drojf #endvote
10:38 huginn` Voted on "Quality Assurance (QA) Team: Marcel de Rooy, Paul Poulain, Kyle Hall, Jonathan Druart, Brendan Gallagher, Martin Renvoize?" Results are
10:38 Yes (9): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:38 drojf #agreed Quality Assurance (QA) Team: Marcel de Rooy, Paul Poulain, Kyle Hall, Jonathan Druart, Brendan Gallagher, Martin Renvoize? (9 yes)
10:38 handing back to cait :)
10:39 cait .. and i was hoping he'd just continue :)
10:39 #startvote Packaging Manager: Robin Sheat? Yes, No
10:39 huginn` Begin voting on: Packaging Manager: Robin Sheat? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:39 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:39 drojf that was enough power for today ;)
10:39 eythian_ Who is that?
10:39 wahanui i heard that was th ereason
10:39 drojf #vote yes
10:39 cait drojf++
10:40 * fridolin myyyyy preciouuuuus
10:40 davidnind #vote Yes
10:40 Brooke lol frid
10:40 thd #vote Yes
10:40 cait #vote yes
10:40 Joubu #vote yes
10:40 fridolin #vote Yes
10:40 AndroUser2 #vote yes
10:40 cait ending vote soon
10:41 indradg #vote yes
10:41 cait ending vote....
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10:41 cait #endvote
10:41 huginn` Voted on "Packaging Manager: Robin Sheat?" Results are
10:41 Yes (8): Joubu, davidnind, cait, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:41 cait #agreed  Packaging Manager: Robin Sheat (8 yes)
10:41 2 more people, we can do this :)
10:41 Teejay #info Tunji Adepeju Projektlink Konsult, Nigeria
10:42 cait #startvote Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren? Yes, No
10:42 Teejay Got disconnected. Had to join again
10:42 huginn` Begin voting on: Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:42 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:42 davidnind #vote Yes
10:42 cait #vote yes
10:42 drojf #vote yes
10:42 * indradg standing down being a candidate
10:42 drojf (for the others ^^)
10:42 thd #vote Yes
10:43 * indradg from voting myself
10:43 Joubu #vote yes
10:43 AndroUser2 #vote yes
10:43 fridolin #vote yes
10:43 eythian_ #vote yes
10:43 thd indrdg: candidates should vote for themselves :)
10:43 cait closing vote soonish
10:43 #showvote
10:43 huginn` Yes (8): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:43 indradg #vote yes
10:43 thd: I didn't know that :P
10:44 cait closing...
10:44 #endvote
10:44 huginn` Voted on "Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren?" Results are
10:44 Yes (9): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:44 cait Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren (9 yes)
10:44 sarkhanvol #info Eugene Espinoza from Rome
10:44 cait one more role :)
10:44 sarkhanvol #vote yes
10:44 thd indradg: Only chairing the vote would be a conflict of interest.
10:45 indradg thd: thanks for the cluestick
10:45 cait #startvote Wiki Curators: Indranil Das Gupta, Thomas Dukleth, Brooke? Yes, No
10:45 huginn` Begin voting on: Wiki Curators: Indranil Das Gupta, Thomas Dukleth, Brooke? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:45 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:45 eythian_ #vote yes
10:45 drojf #vote yes
10:45 cait #vote yes
10:45 davidnind #vote Yes
10:45 fridolin #vote yes
10:45 thd #vote Yes
10:45 sarkhanvol #vote yes
10:45 Joubu #vote yes
10:45 cait Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren (9+1 yes)
10:45 AndroUser2 #vote yes
10:45 indradg #vote yes
10:45 cait #agreed Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren (9 yes)
10:45 eythian_ It's also nice that Thomas has a Plan.
10:45 cait arg
10:45 indradg yes
10:46 cait #agreed Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren (9+1 yes)
10:46 indradg the migration
10:46 wahanui well, the migration is hard or <reply>If only they were using Koha to start with...
10:46 cait ... ignore my mistakes please
10:46 AndroUser2 #info Ram Migrino from OS Library Solutions Philippines
10:46 cait #showvote
10:46 huginn` Yes (10): Joubu, davidnind, cait, sarkhanvol, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:46 cait closing vote soonish
10:46 #endvote
10:46 huginn` Voted on "Wiki Curators: Indranil Das Gupta, Thomas Dukleth, Brooke?" Results are
10:46 Yes (10): Joubu, davidnind, cait, sarkhanvol, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:46 cait #agreed Wiki Curators: Indranil Das Gupta, Thomas Dukleth, Brooke (10 yes)
10:46 we are done!
10:46 congratulations to all elected volunteers!
10:47 and thx everyone for attending and voting!
10:47 drojf woohoo
10:47 thd I have been updating my plan, in the proposal as I fix bugs etc.
10:47 drojf cait++
10:47 cait and as always... the next release will rock :)
10:47 sarkhanvol Cheers for 3.22! :)
10:47 indradg cait:++
10:47 cait let's move on to another nice topic...
10:47 ok? :)
10:48 #topic KohaCon15
10:48 Topic for #koha is now KohaCon15 (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 6 May 2015)
10:48 cait Teejay: are you still around?
10:48 Teejay Yes
10:48 Brooke almost changed the wiki page title to KohaCon15; we aren't consistent in capitalisation on the website or wiki which dings findability
10:49 thd It should be pointed out that there had been some consensus but never a formal vote on the more the merrier for wiki maintainers in a manner similar to bug wranglers if that matters.
10:49 Teejay We have registration going on
10:49 cait #info registrations are open and going on
10:50 Brooke can we link that?
10:50 Teejay We still expect participants from USA, NZ, Europe etc to make the Conference more interesting and rewarding
10:50 cait yes, can someone look up the link please?
10:51 * eythian_ hopes to go :-)
10:51 Brooke #link http://kohacon15.projektlinkko[…]com/registration/
10:51 davidnind http://kohacon15.projektlinkko[…]com/registration/
10:51 too slow...
10:51 * Brooke blows the smoke from her 6 shooter.
10:51 Brooke Next time cowboy, next time. ;)
10:51 eythian_ But no promises :-/
10:52 davidnind :)
10:52 Teejay The link works well here
10:52 cait Teejay: it will show in the logs now :)
10:52 Teejay Ok
10:53 cait is there anything else you want to add?
10:54 Teejay Not  for now. But Call for Papers - we still want more  Contributors from the Experts
10:55 Nigerian Librarians are showing interest and a User from Ethopia too
10:55 cait #info Call for papers is still open - more submissions welcome!
10:55 davidnind Nice job on the website http://kohacon15.projektlinkkonsult.com/
10:56 Teejay Thank you
10:57 cait #link http://kohacon15.projektlinkkonsult.com/
10:57 moving on
10:57 :)
10:57 #topic KohaCon16
10:57 Topic for #koha is now KohaCon16 (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 6 May 2015)
10:57 cait drojf maybe?
10:57 thd?
10:57 wahanui rumour has it thd is concerned that CCL, Pazpar2, and Zebra support should not be an either that or Solr/Lucene option.  We need CCL and Pazpar2 for metasearch and we currently need Zebra for a Z39.50/SRU server. or concerned that indentation styles which do not collapse in vim lead to overly long lines which cannot always be broken across multiple lines
10:58 drojf what's the question? :)
10:58 cait #info bids can be added to the wiki page now
10:58 drojf i think we agreed on voting for a location in september, there is only one application so far
10:58 davidnind Message went out asking for interest in hosting KohaCon 16 - https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]April/042540.html
10:58 cait #link https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]April/042540.html
10:58 thd I created a blank page and posted a notice on the mailing list.
10:59 davidnind Current proposals are here: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]haCon16_Proposals
10:59 cait ah thx
10:59 thd We have attracted one candidate when I looked earlier this morning.
10:59 cait #info one application so far - more are welcome
10:59 #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]haCon16_Proposals
10:59 ok?
11:00 and thd++
11:00 thd The candidate has not yet linked to a more detailed proposal but there is time.
11:00 Brooke hooray it's from someone different :)
11:00 eythian_ Ohh, Philippines is close.
11:00 cait ok, changign topics?
11:01 #topic Next steps in Fundraising
11:01 thd Linking to a detailed proposal is important and we may need to remind people that we would not have much to vote upon in the absence of more detailed proposals.
11:01 Topic for #koha is now Next steps in Fundraising (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 6 May 2015)
11:01 cait thd: I agree - detailed and another would be good
11:02 otherwise - we won't have a vote :)
11:02 is someone here to talk about the fundraising?
11:03 davidnind Don't think any of the signatories or committee are here
11:03 drojf apparently not
11:03 cait #info postponed to the next meeting
11:03 i thin it doesn't make much sense to discuss when we don't have someone who knows what#s been planned and going on
11:04 davidnind agree
11:04 cait #Topic Actions from Last Meeting
11:04 Topic for #koha is now Actions from Last Meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 6 May 2015)
11:04 cait cait to send an email to the mailing list about the QA event - DONE
11:05 it went quite well, some numbers can be found on the wiki
11:05 Brooke volunteers++
11:05 cait #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]5-04-17_QA_sprint
11:05 tcohen will update the wiki about the dev meeting
11:05 sarkhanvol regarding kohacon 2016 proposal, we'll sort it out once the group meet again :)
11:05 cait I think this happened as well - we shoudl probably schedule another soon
11:06 Minutes are here
11:06 #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_15_April_2015
11:06 thx sarkhanvol :)
11:06 sarkhanvol cait: your welcome! :)
11:07 cait hm might have missed the meeting on april 29?
11:07 thd to put a call for bids on the mailing list at the beginning of next week - DONE
11:07 setting time for the next meeting :)
11:08 #topic Set Time and Date for Next Meeting
11:08 Topic for #koha is now Set Time and Date for Next Meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC Meeting, 6 May 2015)
11:08 cait suggestions?
11:08 wahanui suggestions are still there
11:08 davidnind 3rd or 10th June?
11:08 thd 10th
11:08 cait 3rd would work a bit better for me
11:09 but depends on the time
11:09 which time is next?
11:09 20 utc?
11:09 drojf 3rd won't work for me
11:09 cait i can make 10th work then
11:09 drojf thanks :)
11:09 cait or 19UTC?
11:10 eythian_ 7am, ick:-)
11:10 drojf i'd prefer 19 but both works for me
11:10 thd was it not 22 UTC previously?
11:11 cait it was 19 last time - not sure about daylight savings etc.
11:11 http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ting_8_April_2015
11:11 sarkhanvol 22 UTC is fine. or 21 UTC
11:11 drojf cait: you are utc+2 now
11:11 cait drojf: don't confuse me :)
11:11 so what should it be? :)
11:11 drojf sorry, tried to unconfuse :D
11:12 thd We should probably keep 19 UTC for those not here now to suggest.
11:12 davidnind http://www.timeanddate.com/wor[…]g&iso=20150610T19
11:12 cait davidnind: does that work for nz?
11:12 or eythian?
11:12 wahanui well, eythian is an expert bot trainer
11:12 davidnind 7 am in NZ
11:12 eythian_ 20 is better for me, due to more likely being awake.
11:13 cait any vetos on 20?
11:13 thd The question about daylight savings in NZ and Australia was put at the last development meeting
11:13 eythian_ But that's just me, I'm sure I can irc from bed :-)
11:13 davidnind okay with 20
11:13 eythian_ We're on ST now.
11:14 So NZ is +12
11:14 AU must be +10, so quite early
11:14 cait #agreed Next Meeting will be held on 10 June 2015 - 20 UTC
11:14 noone said veto ;)
11:15 otherwise please send to the mailing list suggesting another time :)
11:15 #endmeeting
11:15 Topic for #koha is now Nominations for 3.22-roles are open: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.22 | Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org | Code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
11:15 huginn` Meeting ended Wed May  6 11:15:14 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
11:15 Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community[…]-05-06-10.01.html
11:15 Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]5-05-06-10.01.txt
11:15 Log:            http://meetings.koha-community[…]06-10.01.log.html
11:15 cait thx all for attending!
11:15 davidnind cait++
11:15 drojf cait++
11:15 eythian_ cait++
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11:16 cait time for lunch :) bbiab
11:17 fridolin miammmm
11:17 thanks again cait
11:18 cait np.. next meeting at 2 for me, i better run :)
11:18 drojf lunch sounds like a good idea
11:19 thd Sleep at last will be even better than lunch ;)
11:19 drojf i'll try that after lunch :D
11:19 * eythian_ returns to watching Tatau on BBC. I recommend it.
11:22 thd eythian_: The Wikipedia article needs a link to any favourable or non-US review.
11:23 eythian_ Well I'm only on ep2, but I'm liking it so far :-)
11:24 And Wikipedia is quite broken for me right now, oddly.
11:27 thd eythian_: In what way is it broken for you?
11:29 davidnind http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4122348/
11:29 eythian_ thd: https://owncloud.kallisti.net.[…]t=CBthPZUvgHljZNg
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11:31 davidnind Looks okay to me - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]u_%28TV_series%29
11:32 eythian_ I assume it's some broken mobile detection.
11:32 thd eythian_: Perhaps your ISP is merely trying to protect you from wiki evils ;)
11:33 eythian_ Could be ;-)
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11:34 * thd sleeps
11:35 davidnind Looks okay on my mobile phone - 5" Motorola Moto G2 (Firefox + Chrome)
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11:38 eythian_ Curious
11:39 Oh, working now
11:58 cait davidnind++ #wiki
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12:12 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
12:12 tcohen hola magnuse!
12:12 magnuse we just elected you for a third run as rm. tee hee.
12:13 oh wait, we really did do that
12:13 tcohen really?
12:13 are you nuts?
12:14 magnuse poco loco!
12:14 (that was a very popular brand of clothes in norway in the 80's)
12:17 tcohen heh
12:17 i was reading the logs
12:17 thanks guys
12:23 magnuse nah, we should be thanking you, profusely
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12:24 * tcohen will resume pushing for the beta in a couple hours
12:24 tcohen I hope people have the chance to test the blockers we have
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13:05 cait @later tell andreashm ping me if you are around sometime? :)
13:05 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded.
13:05 tcohen hi cait
13:09 cait hi tcohen :)
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13:45 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14057: Inventory is painfully slow <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b59ac5466383bbab1> / Bug 14056: Small punctuation error in description for deleting a holiday <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f81bc761128b1a907> / Bug 12192: Template toolkit code in HTML attributes is picked up into po-files <http://git.koha-
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14:11 tcohen is simith around?
14:12 @seen simith
14:12 huginn` tcohen: I have not seen simith.
14:15 cait i think i haven't seen him here
14:15 francharb and  blou are the same company - but probably a bad time for canada?
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15:17 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13364: Use SQL placeholder <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bc1dd98d330a4b1ce> / Bug 13364: Remove unused JS functions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]69232edbc65377a84> / Bug 13364: Fix table id + software error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]21d42c93df648ab77
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15:22 Bovinity Hellooooo
15:28 nengard hellooooo
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15:31 Bovinity So is there any rhyme or reason to the fact that additems.pl seems to be the only page I can find that uses randomized html field IDs?
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15:47 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14148: marc import broken if plugins are not enabled <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]23265d11135d72788>
15:58 gaetan_B bye
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16:03 xarragon When looking at bugs in the tracker, is there an easier way to tell if they have been pushed and merged than git log and seaching for the ID?
16:04 I guess the bug state itself would be most telling.
16:25 nengard anyone around who can answer a question about Coce - I'm writing the manual and I assume that if you have this on you want the other cover image options off
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16:50 tcohen nengard_afk: it is unimarc + french + sudoc specific
16:51 nengard i'll need some more explanation for the manual then
16:57 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12253: Fix MARCUrls in basket <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d0e18530c2bc26e97> / Bug 13982: Checkouts table not sorting on correct column <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6a8cc1a70810f63dc>
17:00 tcohen maybe ask paul_p, he can point you to the right people
17:00 it is an authority database
17:00 for french academic libraries usage me thinks
17:10 magnuse nengard: see bug 9580
17:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9580 new feature, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Cover image from Coce, a remote image URL cache
17:10 magnuse fredericdem would be the one to talk to, i think
17:11 coce solves the problem of multiple cover sources, but outside koha, so yes, if you enable coce you probably want to disable all other cover sources
17:11 or so i gather :-)
17:12 nengard magnuse it seemed like the logical assumption but I did not put that in the manual just in case :)
17:14 trying to keep the manual up to date so when it's time for feature freeze ... oh wait did that happen? ... I can update help files
17:15 magnuse well, it is too late to get new features qa'ed and into 3.20, but tcohen still has some features that were qa'ed before the deadline that he can push, i think
17:15 nengard++ for keeping the manual up to date
17:15 nengard well whenever tcohen is done then I need to get those help files up to date - so manual work continues :)
17:16 lots done today: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ocs.git;a=summary
17:16 tcohen nengard: not too many, don't worry
17:16 nengard just wish jenkins would stop emailing me to say the manual is failing
17:16 which it isn't!!!
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17:17 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
17:18 I was looking into improving test coverage on a bug... and noticed this...
17:18 # FIXME
17:18 # At this point, there is a problem with the AutoCommit off
17:18 magnuse hiya mtompset
17:18 mtompset Greetings, magnuse.
17:23 barton Does anyone know of any repositories of templates for notices and slips? I didn't see any on the wiki, but it would be nice to have something similar to http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library, allowing libraries to share templates for notices. ... I saw this: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Template:Report which made me a bit reluctant to create a new page from scratch.
17:24 misilot Hi, I was wondering if with the MARC Modification templates if there is a way to a barcode similar to the __CURRENTDATE__ macro?
17:28 tcohen nengard: wrong warnings about the docs?
17:28 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13364: (QA followup) missing id and class <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0033906b8b173c312>
17:29 nengard tcohen - i emailed the koha list about it
17:29 tcohen great
17:29 nengard jenkins keeps emailing me telling me that the manual is failing - but it's not
17:29 it was a over a week ago that i sent the email though
17:29 and still no resolution
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17:36 tcohen it's been over a week ago that Chris fixed jenkins so it starts sending emails, which wasn't doing correctly
17:39 nengard tcohen - i don't want false emails
17:39 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12135: Fix suggestions table width <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c6b32d35b9edb5ff8> / Bug 10976: Fix typo itemtype vs itemtypes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6d9b4e6a36e7a4407> / Bug 14129: templates.readme is outdated <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e8bfea2190dabe69c
17:40 nengard I get 7 or 8 everytime I do the manual
17:40 and the thing is the manual shouldn't be failing - it's jenkins that's failing
17:40 per my email
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17:41 Bovinity Meh, can do nearly every operation via URL in Koha except add items. Bit of a bummer.
17:42 tcohen nengard: :-P
17:42 will try to take a look
17:43 nengard hehe
17:55 tcohen what was the tool for extracting data from xml on cli?
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17:57 cait tcohen: hm?
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17:57 tcohen ciat: xmlstarlet
17:57 cait
18:01 magnuse xmlstarlet sel -t -v "//_:datafield[@tag='099']/_:subfield[@code='h']" /path/to/file.marcxml | sort | uniq -c :-)
18:02 cait tcohen
18:02 tcohen i'm scripting my 3.12 > 3.18 migration
18:02 we have that new handy --enable-sru option, and --sru-port of course
18:03 so need to script the extraction
18:03 of the value from 3.12
18:12 magnuse: for instance in $(koha-list) ; do echo "$instance:"`xmlstarlet sel -t -v 'yazgfs/listen[@id="publicserver"]' /etc/koha/sites/$instance/koha-conf.xml | cut -d':' -f3` ; done
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18:30 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14018: Ordering from suggestion shows 'copy. year:2014' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ca7fb034547c7d306> / Bug 14075: Undefined value creates noisy warns in C4::AuthoritiesMarc <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ce6f688d1c4fcd52b>
18:31 mtompset There... improved test coverage. :) bug 14103. YAY! :)
18:31 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Needs Signoff , Discharge management: Software error on main page after upgrade - Missing dependencies on About page
18:33 mtompset BTW, tcohen I think that might solve the jenkins issues.
18:34 http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ter_D8/39/console
18:40 tcohen ah, I see
18:41 once I finish polishing the beta i'll take on the remaining bugfixes
18:42 mtompset BTW, failures over the plugin is pretty ugly. Bad khall. ;)
18:42 tcohen the jenkins nodes already have a packaged version of the dependencies installed, because there's no point flooding people
18:42 khall : )=
18:42 tcohen i built them and reused across the servers
18:42 * mtompset gasps, "Say it isn't so!"
18:42 tcohen eythian made great progress conveniently packaging them
18:43 bye #koha, have a nice evening/night/morning
18:43 khall mtompset: if a plugin has errors, it just doesn't show up in Koha. I don't like that at all but I had to do it to get it passed qa. Blame jcamins ; )
18:45 * mtompset chuckles, "Let's all play the blame game. Where everyone loses!"
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19:34 mtompset Greetings, indradg.
19:35 indradg Greetings! mtompset
19:36 mtompset What's new with you?
19:37 indradg trying to coax people to sign off on a silly little patch bug 14135
19:37 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14135 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Local Use syspref addition form missing variable type 'Free'
19:37 mtompset Can I get a tit-for-tat?
19:37 bug 14103
19:37 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Needs Signoff , Discharge management: Software error on main page after upgrade - Missing dependencies on About page
19:38 indradg aah... your workaround fix for the PDF::FromHTML?
19:39 mtompset Yes. :)
19:42 indradg|dinner: BTW, I don't think this is an enhancement. This is a fix.
19:42 It should have been in the list in the first place.
19:47 indradg|dinner mtompset: i thought so, but it looked so trivial that i didn't set it as a 'fix'
19:47 mtompset Oh my! There's no validation on the value entered as the type?!
19:48 indradg|dinner only came to my notice after I had a rough time supporting a client on phone who kept complaining that it was not working
19:48 mtompset I just changed INTRAdidyoumean to a "DoesThisBreakThis" type.
19:48 cait mtompset: it's an old part of Koha - local use are not much used these days
19:48 mtompset Beyond the scope of this bug.
19:48 indradg|dinner cait: SMSSendUsername / SMSSendPassword... my own undoing
19:49 cait not saying it's not valid to use them :)
19:49 just that it's become a bit rare - and we should definitely fix the Free as a bug
19:50 indradg|dinner although tbh, I couldnt understand why SMSSendUsername / SMSSendPassword aren't already there as msging params
19:51 mtompset cait: bug 14135 is signed off. ;)
19:51 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14135 minor, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Signed Off , Local Use syspref addition form missing variable type 'Free'
19:51 cait if they are used for all th esms modules i think they should be here
19:51 there
19:51 sorry, I can't type tonight :)
19:58 mtompset indradg: So, can I ask you to look at and sign off 14103? :)
19:58 indradg mtompset: on it!
20:02 mtompset Thanks.
20:04 Sweet! The first of my many 'prove t' cleanups signed off (14113) :)
20:10 bgkriegel++ # YAY! I love sign-offs on my bugs. :)
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20:16 * andreashm waves
20:16 mtompset Greetings, andreashm.
20:16 cait hi andreashm :)
20:17 andreashm hey cait, mtompset
20:46 drojf good night #koha
21:02 mtompset indradg: Are you having problems with 14103?
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21:33 tcohen hi
21:33 wahanui niihau, tcohen
21:33 tcohen hi wahanui
21:33 rangi hi tcohen
21:34 tcohen hey
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21:37 * cait wave
21:37 cait s
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21:53 tcohen hi cait
21:53 cait hi tcohen
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22:09 eythian hi
22:14 http://mountainsofmouthness.com/
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22:32 wizzyrea that is...
22:34 lol.
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22:54 BobB good morning
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23:18 tcohen night #koha
23:19 eythian hi tcohen
23:19 bye tcohen
23:19 tcohen hey
23:19 heh
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