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| 01:16 | BobB joined #koha | |
| 01:45 | mtj_ | hey #koha, do people prefer the raw or telnet transport flavour, for 3M self-checks? |
| 01:45 | rangi | neither |
| 01:46 | but the 3m machines seem to crash less with raw | |
| 01:47 | mtj_ | a perfect response rangi :) |
| 01:49 | https://www.facebook.com/Sweet[…]143720332/?type=1 | |
| 01:49 | rangi | heh |
| 01:49 | mtj_ | i love the mahara cupcakes :0) |
| 01:50 | rangi | you saw the koha ones eh? |
| 01:50 | mtj_ | hmm, perhaps...no?! |
| 01:50 | rangi | https://www.flickr.com/photos/[…]WBX-ayNnFS-qx8CKa |
| 01:52 | BobB | cool, rangi |
| 01:52 | Kristina +1 | |
| 01:53 | mtj_ | truuley awesome |
| 01:55 | dcook | hehe |
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| 03:32 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 04:06 | * eythian | remembers that if you don't update the changelog, you don't get the right package out the end. |
| 04:07 | eythian | after getting the wrong versioned package |
| 04:25 | mtompset | doh! :) |
| 04:35 | eythian: Want to see something ugly? Read C4::Input and look for C4::Context->prepare | |
| 04:35 | found that while looking at bug 9006 | |
| 04:35 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9006 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Patch doesn't apply , autoload in C4::Context is a bad idea |
| 04:37 | * eythian | wonders what 'infl' is supposed to stand for |
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| 04:39 | eythian | but yeah, that's some weird code there. It shouldn't have to check the database for existance, that's not the role of a function called that. |
| 04:40 | mtompset | input field? :) |
| 04:42 | eythian | I suppose it could be. |
| 04:42 | mtompset | Anyways, I should sleep. I was rather pleased coming up with a shorter/cleaner way of doing the same thing Joubu did to confirm that intranetdir was the only autoload. |
| 04:42 | eythian | cool |
| 04:43 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha eythian :) |
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| 05:22 | * Oak | waves |
| 05:23 | * cait | waves |
| 05:23 | Oak | hey cait. breakfast done? |
| 05:23 | cait | not yet |
| 05:23 | Oak | hmm |
| 05:23 | what are you doing now? | |
| 05:24 | cait | waking up mostly :) |
| 05:24 | bbiab | |
| 05:24 | Oak | :) |
| 05:25 | eythian | hi cait, hi Oak |
| 05:26 | Oak | hello Mr. Robin! |
| 05:26 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 05:26 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (5:00 PM NZST on May 04, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Falling). |
| 05:27 | eythian | hmm, needs the probability of earthquakes in there too I reckon. |
| 05:27 | Oak | and sea levels too, perhaps. |
| 05:30 | what do i need to read/study/explore to be able to update that wiki page properly? : https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]5-May/042654.html | |
| 05:30 | I'll read and learn, just need to be pointed in the right direction. | |
| 05:31 | eythian | hmm. Some of the files in the etc directory. I'd grab a keyword out of there like 'Related-periodical' and see which files it shows up in. |
| 05:31 | I want to say it's something like ccl.properties, but I might be wrong there. | |
| 05:31 | dcook is the expert here ;) | |
| 05:31 | Oak | hmm. cool. |
| 05:32 | i'll ask him when he | |
| 05:32 | cait | Oak: maybe look at how to add a new index |
| 05:32 | Oak | 's around. |
| 05:32 | cait | there are pages for that |
| 05:32 | eythian | if you find the file, it should become fairly obvious |
| 05:32 | Oak | hmm. okay cait. i'll check that out. |
| 05:32 | cait | because some of the index have multiple names - a short form and a long one - you will need to look at 3 files |
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| 05:32 | Oak | i see. cool. |
| 05:33 | cait | hm maybe 2 is enough |
| 05:33 | Oak | i think this will help as well: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_Zebra_indexing |
| 05:33 | it mentions ccl.properties just like eythian said. | |
| 05:33 | cool. | |
| 05:33 | cait | yes, but don't look at record.abs |
| 05:34 | Oak | okay. |
| 05:34 | cait | it's used for grs1 indexing and we have deprecated that |
| 05:34 | Oak | cool. got it. |
| 05:35 | cait | you propbably want this one |
| 05:35 | /etc/koha/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml | |
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| 05:36 | Oak | ooh yes cait. just opened that file. this looks like it. |
| 05:36 | thank you! | |
| 05:37 | dcook | Who, wha? |
| 05:37 | Quiet all day then heaps of text :p | |
| 05:37 | eythian | what'd be awesome is having a table that the files are generated from that also generates the documentation. |
| 05:37 | Oak | hello dcook, the expert dude. |
| 05:38 | dcook | What's the question? |
| 05:38 | wahanui | the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" |
| 05:38 | * dcook | thinks wahanui is a jerk |
| 05:40 | Oak | we should replace him with a cyborg. girl. |
| 05:40 | eythian | wahanui: boten anna |
| 05:40 | wahanui | http://youtu.be/E7iU0GGVco8 |
| 05:46 | Oak | :) dcook question was how i update this wiki page http://manual.koha-community.o[…]earchindexes.html properly... where to learn about all the indexed fields. and Mr. Robin and Katrin were helping me with that. |
| 05:47 | dcook | Oh my... |
| 05:47 | Oak | Katrin said to look here /etc/koha/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml and Mr. Robin said about ccl.properties and some files in /etc/ directory |
| 05:47 | * dcook | ponders |
| 05:47 | dcook | ccl.properties will probably be your best bet |
| 05:48 | Oak | cool :) |
| 05:48 | dcook | Oh... but yeah you'll need to look at /etc/koha/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml too |
| 05:48 | Actually, I'll just look and tell you rather than guessing myself | |
| 05:48 | Oak | :) got it. |
| 05:49 | dcook | "biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml" will tell you which MARC fields/subfields are mapped to what indexes, which appears to mainly be what you want |
| 05:49 | But ccl.properties includes aliases for those indexes, which you'll want to include as well | |
| 05:50 | bib1.att will show you how the bib1 attributes are mapped to the indexes. | |
| 05:51 | Oak | *now* i get the significance of your earlier "oh my" :) |
| 05:51 | dcook++ | |
| 05:51 | dcook | hehe |
| 05:51 | If I recall correctly, Koha sends CCL queries to Zebra | |
| 05:52 | Well, it uses a ZOOM perl function to translate CCL to PQF for Zebra | |
| 05:52 | The bib1 attributes are part of PQF | |
| 05:53 | * eythian | & |
| 05:53 | dcook | So in ccl.properties you might see something like: |
| 05:53 | "Title-uniform 1=Title-uniform" | |
| 05:53 | later eythian | |
| 05:53 | "Title-uniform 1=Title-uniform" means... | |
| 05:53 | Oak | hmm |
| 05:54 | dcook | <Alias> 1=<english index name mapped to bib1 attribute in bib1.att> |
| 05:54 | Sorry, that's probably overwhelming | |
| 05:54 | I'd look at "biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml" | |
| 05:55 | Then "ccl.properties" | |
| 05:55 | Here's another example | |
| 05:55 | From "biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml": | |
| 05:55 | <index_leader xmlns="http://www.koha-community.org/schemas/index-defs" offset="6" length="1"> | |
| 05:55 | <target_index>rtype:w</target_index> | |
| 05:55 | </index_leader> | |
| 05:55 | Oak | nah. it's cool. i did not want to interrupt. :) |
| 05:55 | cait | someon opposed to deleting this file? http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e3214decd73356823 |
| 05:55 | dcook | So that means it's the 6th character in the leader with a length of 1 |
| 05:55 | It's indexed in "rtype" | |
| 05:56 | So on http://manual.koha-community.o[…]earchindexes.html, you might type "leader06" "rtype" | |
| 05:56 | However, if you look in ccl.properties... | |
| 05:56 | You'll see the following: | |
| 05:56 | rtype 1=1001 | |
| 05:56 | Record-type rtype | |
| 05:56 | mc-rtype rtype | |
| 05:56 | mus rtype | |
| 05:56 | So really that should be... | |
| 05:57 | "leader06" "rtype, Record-type, mc-rtype, mus" | |
| 05:57 | (bib1.att comes into play if you want to double-check that 1001 does in fact map to the "rtype" mentioned in "biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml") | |
| 05:58 | Oak | got it. |
| 05:58 | dcook | \o/ |
| 05:58 | Oak | dcook++ |
| 05:58 | dcook | :) |
| 05:58 | Oak | \o/ this helps a lot, thank you! |
| 05:58 | dcook | If you ever want to read Zebra docs, you can also look here: "biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml |
| 05:59 | Ack | |
| 05:59 | http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/ | |
| 05:59 | cait | we should probably clean the wiki up a bit at some point |
| 05:59 | Oak | cool. got it. |
| 06:00 | dcook | I think I wrote a little blog post about it a while ago... but it's possibly wrong and definitely out of date: https://tech4lib.wordpress.com[…]tes-ccl-and-more/ |
| 06:00 | I mostly just use that as a little online notepad for myself.. | |
| 06:01 | This can also be useful for understanding ccl.properties: http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/doc/tools.html#CCL | |
| 06:01 | * Oak | copy pasting things dcook said in a text editor |
| 06:01 | dcook | hehe |
| 06:01 | Oak | :) |
| 06:01 | dcook | I keep meaning to do a comprehensive but clear explanation in the wiki one day |
| 06:01 | Too many things to do | |
| 06:01 | For instance, I really should pop around to the post office | |
| 06:01 | Ciao for now! | |
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| 06:02 | Oak | thanks dcook! see you later. |
| 06:03 | * Oak | wonders what was the last time he went to a post office.... |
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| 06:36 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:43 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 06:49 | cait | bbiab |
| 06:55 | magnuse | bgkriegel++ for bug 7939! |
| 06:55 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Separate po files for different MARC dialects |
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| 06:59 | * magnuse | waves again |
| 06:59 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:03 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:03 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on May 04, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:04 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 07:04 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 19.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on May 04, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:04 | magnuse | :-O |
| 07:04 | dcook | @wunder syd |
| 07:04 | huginn` | dcook: The current temperature in Bardwell Park, Sydney, New South Wales is 19.9°C (5:04 PM AEST on May 04, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:04 | * dcook | waves also |
| 07:04 | dcook | 81%... no wonder my house is still wet from the storm.. |
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| 07:12 | magnuse | ooh, happy star wars day, #koha! |
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| 07:22 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:24 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 07:25 | cait | morning #kha |
| 07:26 | morning #koha | |
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| 07:31 | magnuse | Oak |
| 07:31 | Oak | magnuse |
| 07:32 | got a light? | |
| 07:33 | magnuse | at least the sun is shining |
| 07:33 | kivilahtio | Does anybody know if someone has already developed a simple Item editing view with limited permissions. |
| 07:33 | cait | yes |
| 07:33 | kivilahtio | We need an interface to rebarcode very quickly a lot of Items, and do some simple operations such as change the collection code and shelving location and notforloan-status |
| 07:33 | Oak | tch tch. ruined it. i meant like a lighter or match to light a cigarette. |
| 07:34 | cait | kivilahtio: you can create a new account for that and use the restricted item edit permission |
| 07:34 | kivilahtio | without giving staff the cataloguing-Zedit_items-permission |
| 07:34 | cait: in which version is that? | |
| 07:34 | cait | i think 3.18 |
| 07:34 | kivilahtio | cait: any idea how to find it from bugzilla? |
| 07:34 | cait | it's a permission + syspref with the fields you are allowed to edit |
| 07:35 | kivilahtio | but it still lodas the horrendously slow catloguin/edit-interface? |
| 07:35 | cait | well... yes |
| 07:35 | kivilahtio | ok :) |
| 07:35 | I'll cook another interface then. | |
| 07:35 | cait: thanks for the tip! | |
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| 07:36 | cait | bug 7673 i think |
| 07:36 | kivilahtio | the problem is not the interface but the horrible load times on it, it is just silly |
| 07:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7673 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , New patron permissions to manage items (edit, batchmod, delete all) |
| 07:36 | cait | makes sense, you could do a plugin |
| 07:36 | kivilahtio | hmm |
| 07:36 | cait: plugin you say? | |
| 07:37 | I am not familiar with the plugin system | |
| 07:37 | cait | just thinking that could be a use case for one |
| 07:37 | and will make it easier for ou to maintain | |
| 07:37 | maybe | |
| 07:37 | kivilahtio | cait: thanks, ill try reading the documentation |
| 07:37 | cait | i think there is a new page on the wiki |
| 07:37 | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_plugins | |
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| 07:54 | drojf | morning #koha |
| 07:59 | magnuse | Oak: sorry about that. yes, i do have some matches on top of the spice cupboard on the ground floor |
| 08:05 | the wiki should have a "how to write a koha plugin" page... | |
| 08:07 | drojf | magnuse: you got the job :) |
| 08:08 | magnuse | drojf: thanks |
| 08:08 | ;-) | |
| 08:08 | then i just need to figure out how to write them | |
| 08:08 | well, i should do that anyway, but no time this side of summer, probably | |
| 08:08 | cait | i think there was some documentation somewhere... maybe in the bug report - or it's 'in the kitchen sink' plugin |
| 08:14 | magnuse | yeah, i have a hunch there was something somewhere, but i can't really recall |
| 08:14 | i think the kitchen sink plugin was meant to demonstrate everything a plugin could do | |
| 08:15 | cait | @later tell khall - we are looking for documentation on how to write plugins - can yu help us out? :) |
| 08:15 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:16 | Oak | :) |
| 08:21 | magnuse | ooh, http://bywatersolutions.com/koha-plugins/ lists a cover flow plugin! |
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| 08:24 | magnuse | http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]coverflow-plugin/ - how did i miss that? |
| 08:25 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 08:28 | magnuse | hiya mveron |
| 08:29 | mveron | hiya magnuse |
| 08:29 | ...and everybody :-) | |
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| 09:03 | magnuse | tjänare Viktor |
| 09:09 | Viktor | Hej Magnuse! |
| 09:09 | Möte just nu med xarragon :) | |
| 09:12 | * cait | waves |
| 09:12 | magnuse | :-) |
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| 09:37 | mveron | Hi cait :-) Bug 14128 |
| 09:37 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14128 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Capitalization: Guided Reports - step 2 - Build A Report |
| 09:39 | magnuse | mveron++ |
| 10:03 | cait | i saw :) |
| 10:03 | you beat me to it ;) | |
| 10:07 | mveron | You can QA it then... :-) |
| 10:09 | cait | true .) |
| 10:15 | * mveron | would like to see Bug 13813 moving on, it's signed-off. It is a first step to finally resolve Bug 12072 |
| 10:15 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13813 normal, P3, ---, veron, Signed Off , Remove deprecated module C4::Dates from system |
| 10:15 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, ASSIGNED , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy | |
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| 10:52 | cait | mveron: i am only lookign at bugs for now - i think that bigger change is not for 3.20 |
| 10:52 | better to have it early in 3.22 maybe | |
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| 11:45 | * mveron | is back from lunch... |
| 11:46 | mveron | cait: That's OK, I just wanted to be sur that it moves on... |
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| 12:30 | tcohen | morning! |
| 12:31 | hi cait | |
| 12:32 | cait | hi tcohen :) |
| 12:32 | mveron: i am interested in seeing it moving too :) | |
| 12:33 | mveron | European woes... |
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| 12:42 | tcohen | @seen ashimema |
| 12:42 | huginn` | tcohen: ashimema was last seen in #koha 3 days, 6 hours, 45 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <ashimema> HBC? |
| 12:42 | tcohen | @seen akafred |
| 12:42 | huginn` | tcohen: akafred was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 4 days, 16 hours, 30 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <akafred> #vote yes |
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| 12:57 | barton | @seen dcook |
| 12:57 | huginn` | barton: dcook was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 52 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <dcook> 81%... no wonder my house is still wet from the storm.. |
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| 14:52 | drojf | i just did a fresh installation of koha-common 3.18.06.3 and some of the sample data is missing. no news, no libraries, no patrons, no holidays… |
| 14:52 | cait | drojf: weird |
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| 14:52 | cait | the german or the english ones? |
| 14:52 | drojf | english |
| 14:52 | cait | missing from the installer list of options? |
| 14:53 | drojf | yes |
| 14:53 | and missing afterwards in the instance too, of course | |
| 14:53 | cait | hm weird |
| 14:53 | the files are there? | |
| 14:54 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14011: Make the jQuery selector explicit <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ed50257e4b9644e57> / Bug 14011: Triggering slip print with enter key collides with 'barcode submitted' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9751a043666897a95> / Bug 13810: DBRev 3.19.00.037 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb/?p=koha.git;a= |
| 14:56 | drojf | cait: you mean the sql files? i think they are there. like /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/en/optional/sample_libraries.sql |
| 14:57 | cait | and the .txt file too? |
| 14:57 | drojf | yes |
| 14:57 | cait | ugh no idea then :( |
| 15:00 | tcohen | hi drojf |
| 15:02 | drojf | hi tcohen |
| 15:06 | after removing the instance, when i try to create another one, i get "Koha requires mpm_itk to be enabled within Apache in order to run. Typically this can be enabled with: sudo a2enmod mpm_itk". nothing like that when i first created an instance | |
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| 15:08 | * Oak | waes |
| 15:08 | Oak | right |
| 15:12 | drojf | apparently koha-remove did not remove the symlink in apache2/sites-enabled |
| 15:19 | ok what i think has happened is: i logged into the staff client for web installation, accidentally rejected the cookie and after choosing the installation language, had to log in again. i accepted the cookie but somehow this screwed up the web installer. | |
| 15:19 | it is all there now | |
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| 15:48 | Mex | Hello |
| 15:48 | wahanui | hi, Mex |
| 15:48 | Mex | hello wahanui |
| 15:49 | excuse me, I have a problem with my Koha system | |
| 15:49 | wahanui | Mex: We need a licensed electrician to replace the light bulbs in the computer room. |
| 15:50 | Mex | : O |
| 15:50 | cait | Mex: wahanui is a bot - don't let him scare you away |
| 15:50 | he reacts to certain keywords | |
| 15:50 | wahanui botsnack cookie | |
| 15:50 | wahanui | thanks cait :) |
| 15:51 | Mex | ok |
| 15:51 | cait | i have to go - but someone else might be able to help you |
| 15:51 | Mex | someone can help me with a problem indexing my Koha |
| 15:51 | cait | just ask your question, if someone has an idea they usually speak up |
| 15:52 | Mex | indexing problem |
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| 15:54 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:59 | Mex | Hello |
| 16:03 | Oak | hello Mex. what version Koha and and on What flavor of Linux have you installed? |
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| 16:07 | Mex | ok |
| 16:07 | centos 6.6 system koha version 3.16 | |
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| 16:23 | gaetan_B | bye! |
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| 17:28 | magnuse | hei eskaaren |
| 17:28 | eskaaren | hei magnuse |
| 17:29 | magnuse | it's nice how many people there are here from the nordic countries now :-) |
| 17:31 | hm, did someone suggest a feature that would make it possible to always see who was the last person to borrow a book? | |
| 17:31 | cait | yes |
| 17:31 | magnuse: there isa bug for that from kyle | |
| 17:32 | bug 9011 | |
| 17:32 | wahanui | i guess bug 9011 is quite large too |
| 17:32 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9011 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add the ability to store the last patron to return an item |
| 17:32 | * cait | pretends it's friday and is making pizza today |
| 17:34 | magnuse | thanks cait, i found it too :-) |
| 17:35 | woohoo for pizza! | |
| 17:35 | cait | :) |
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| 18:01 | eskaaren | about the perl modules listed under "about koha -> perl modules" |
| 18:01 | Graphics::Magick seems like it is missing on cpan? | |
| 18:02 | Im installing on SLackware and have it working, but that module is not installed.. | |
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| 18:16 | mtompset | mveron: *ping* |
| 18:16 | mveron | pong |
| 18:16 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 18:17 | So, shall you or I take 14138? | |
| 18:17 | mveron | i mtompset :-) |
| 18:17 | mtompset | Do you have something ready? :) |
| 18:19 | mveron | I'm doing some research on it. I think the best way is to have some pre-tests on create-pdf.pl and generate a error mesage instead of a pdf file. |
| 18:20 | While looking at the code I saw that there are problems with e.g. Layout.pm, it returns not undef when the Id is not found. | |
| 18:20 | mtompset | Sorry for finding ugliness. :) |
| 18:21 | mveron | So before doing 14138 I'd like to fix this first, otherwise the pre-tests are not easy to do |
| 18:22 | I propose that I do some more research and then comment on the Bug 14138 | |
| 18:22 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14138 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patroncard: Prevent errors if create-pdf.pl gets wrong parameters |
| 18:26 | mveron | Hmm, there is a problem with Pofile.pm as well, I deleted all profiles from the datebase and now get crashes when I invoke Manage profiles. |
| 18:27 | mtompset | At least you're thorough in your testing. :) |
| 18:27 | mveron++ # for your thoroughness. :) | |
| 18:27 | mveron | :-) |
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| 19:01 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10388: Does not display 'null' after editing an item on receiving <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7b7c93f02fbcfe2f7> / Bug 12412: Add ability for plugins to convert arbitrary files to MARC from record... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4461ba66a1ca74f3e> / Bug 13421: DBRev 3.19.00.038 <http://git.koha-communi |
| 19:06 | tcohen | bye #koha |
| 19:07 | cait | bye tcohen :) |
| 19:42 | * chris_n | notes we've added a new dep PDF::FromHTML |
| 19:43 | cait | yes we did |
| 19:43 | it will be packaged - but isn't yet | |
| 19:43 | chris_n | the web upgrade needs to run the dep checker |
| 19:43 | its probably ok if one is running packages | |
| 19:43 | cait | hm yeah |
| 19:43 | chris_n | but not if one is running git |
| 19:44 | cait | could be a nice enh |
| 19:44 | chris_n | I can't see what added it |
| 19:44 | cait | also for the remaining tarball users |
| 19:44 | chris_n | do you know offhand? |
| 19:44 | cait | discharge |
| 19:44 | chris_n | there is a mess of different pdf modules |
| 19:55 | misilot | does anyone use any Z39.50 sources for finding things like calculators, google cardboard, laptops, laptop chargers, HDMI cables, etc? (And will to share? ) |
| 19:55 | cait | we have libraries circulating things like that - but they create the records themselves |
| 19:55 | I can't really imagine a remote one for those things really | |
| 19:56 | misilot | cait: thanks :) figured it was a longshot, but the worst I can be told usually is no :) |
| 19:56 | cait | :) |
| 20:04 | eythian: ping me when you are around please? | |
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| 21:04 | rangi | morning |
| 21:04 | cait | morning rangi |
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| 21:22 | wizzyrea | I'm curious why we need all the different pdf modules |
| 21:32 | mveron | Ha, Bug 14143 took me hours... For one Line... |
| 21:32 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14143 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron cards: Crash (confusion between table names creator_templates and club_template_enrollment_fields |
| 21:33 | cait | wow |
| 21:33 | wonder when that crept in | |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | mveron: you know what they say, the last thing you try is always the thing that fixes it. |
| 21:34 | cait | mveron: hm i wonder |
| 21:34 | is itpossible you only got this table becuase of testing kyle'sfeature? | |
| 21:34 | i think it's not in koha yet | |
| 21:35 | the book club feature | |
| 21:35 | mveron | cait: That's possible... |
| 21:36 | It was / is waiting until new tables with _template in their names show up. | |
| 21:37 | cait | yeah |
| 21:39 | mveron | wizzyrea: ...and then they ask you what you did the whole day... |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | I think there is one single thing that annoys me most about bug fixing work - and that is that there is an expectation that you actually know what you're looking for at all times. |
| 21:40 | otherwise, I really like tracking down problems | |
| 21:40 | (and the resultant expectation that you can find and fix any bug quickly) | |
| 21:40 | mveron | Yeah, it is kind of sudoku... |
| 21:53 | * mveron | says good night / daytime to everybody... |
| 21:53 | mveron | quit |
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| 22:02 | eythian | hi |
| 22:02 | wahanui | hola, eythian |
| 22:04 | eythian | today's fact: monorails were originally horse-drawn. |
| 22:07 | * wizzyrea | grumbles that the list view doesn't count the 008 in the copyright date sort. 260 only. |
| 22:08 | cait | ew |
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| 22:42 | eythian | mtj_: are you going to pull the jessie support patches into 3.16? |
| 23:06 | dcook | wizzyrea: But the 008 isn't a copyright date O_o |
| 23:07 | Actually, maybe in one case it might be | |
| 23:07 | wizzyrea | the sorts for publication/copyright/date |
| 23:07 | are all. kinds. of. messed. up. | |
| 23:07 | because marc is dumb. | |
| 23:07 | dcook | Well, it was also implemented pretty strangely in Koha :S |
| 23:07 | But I agree that MARC is dumb | |
| 23:08 | wizzyrea | and because every field but the 008 is freetext. |
| 23:08 | dcook | Nah, there's also the 000, 006, 007 |
| 23:08 | :p | |
| 23:08 | rangi | for dates? |
| 23:08 | not really | |
| 23:08 | eythian | wahanui: be hal |
| 23:08 | wahanui | eythian: huh? |
| 23:08 | dcook | Ah, I meant fixed length |
| 23:08 | eythian | wahanui: be hal is <reply>The 9000 series is the most reliable computer ever made. No 9000 computer has ever made a mistake or distorted information. We are all, by any practical definition of the words, foolproof and incapable of error. |
| 23:08 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 23:08 | dcook | But yeah the dates are weird |
| 23:08 | eythian | wahanui: be hal |
| 23:08 | wahanui | The 9000 series is the most reliable computer ever made. No 9000 computer has ever made a mistake or distorted information. We are all, by any practical definition of the words, foolproof and incapable of error. |
| 23:08 | rangi | you can only reliably sort on 008 for date |
| 23:09 | dcook | I think MARC21 defaults to putting the publication date in the copyrightdate |
| 23:09 | wizzyrea | ^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 23:09 | rangi | because like wizzyrea said the rest are full of shit |
| 23:09 | dcook | Yeah, because 260 is as transcribed |
| 23:09 | rangi | like c 1990 |
| 23:09 | 198? | |
| 23:09 | 1985- | |
| 23:09 | and other crap | |
| 23:09 | dcook | Actually, the 008 can have crap too |
| 23:09 | That could be 198u | |
| 23:09 | :( | |
| 23:09 | http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd008a.html | |
| 23:09 | Or 1u80 | |
| 23:09 | * dcook | shudders |
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| 23:10 | wizzyrea | anyway, it's bad, annoying, very not good. |
| 23:10 | rangi | yep |
| 23:10 | * dcook | concurs |
| 23:10 | rangi | and with all the RDA work |
| 23:10 | wizzyrea | *sobs* |
| 23:10 | rangi | they just made it worse |
| 23:11 | * dcook | double concurs |
| 23:11 | rangi | bibframe will probably end up using emoji for dates |
| 23:11 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:11 | Wait, I'm not sure whether I should laugh or cry... | |
| 23:12 | wizzyrea | http://s374.photobucket.com/us[…]ingDrWho.gif.html |
| 23:13 | ^ MRW people tell me about date sorting | |
| 23:13 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:13 | That's my reaction in regards to all things search | |
| 23:14 | Especially use of double quotations marks in search queries | |
| 23:14 | * dcook | is going to go have a quick little win to distract himself from the big things |
| 23:14 | * wizzyrea | needs one of those. |
| 23:15 | dcook | Local bug tracker? |
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| 23:47 | dcook | Hmm... |
| 23:48 | I don't suppose anyone knows if turning off "noItemTypeImages" breaks the edit item types html page? | |
| 23:48 | Looking at 3.14.5 and it's a bit of a hot mess | |
| 23:48 | Will have to try to remember to look at master after I fix the bug at hand.. | |
| 23:49 | wizzyrea | I do not know. |
| 23:49 | dcook | In that case, I'll look later :) |
| 23:49 | I'm sure it must be rare for folks to turn off item type images.. | |
| 23:50 | wizzyrea | maybe? |
| 23:50 | wahanui | well, maybe is a momentaneous error |
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