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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:22 | papa joined #koha | |
| 00:22 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 00:22 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 22.0°C (1:00 PM NZDT on March 04, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 00:44 | wizzyrea | dcook - see facebook |
| 00:49 | NateC joined #koha | |
| 00:53 | dcook | wizzyrea: Hmm? |
| 00:53 | wizzyrea | GO GO |
| 00:53 | dcook | What is it that I'm looking at? |
| 00:53 | Ah, there's another notification.. | |
| 00:53 | Haha | |
| 00:53 | I'm not allowed to leave the country :p | |
| 00:53 | wizzyrea | noooooo |
| 00:53 | dcook | Otherwise... it would be oh so tempting |
| 00:53 | wizzyrea | oh right. |
| 00:53 | curses. | |
| 00:54 | dcook | Is it the sort of thing trea would be interested in? |
| 00:54 | Or is Mogwai too mainstream? :p | |
| 00:54 | wizzyrea | he doesn't know mogwai (neither do I) |
| 00:54 | LOL! | |
| 00:54 | dcook | O_o |
| 00:54 | I thought trea knew everything about all music! | |
| 00:54 | Letting me down here trea | |
| 00:54 | wizzyrea | ... I'm sure he'd be flattered to know that you thought that. |
| 00:54 | he does know uncommonly much. | |
| 00:54 | dcook | I was led to believe in the past that he was a omniscient musically :p |
| 00:55 | It was a good show | |
| 00:55 | Only time I've ever used ear plugs in my life though | |
| 00:55 | Of course, I probably should've used them for many many other shows when I was younger... | |
| 00:55 | eythian | I always use earplugs |
| 00:56 | dcook | eythian: You're a wise person |
| 00:56 | What on earth was I just doing... | |
| 00:56 | * dcook | can only think "Mogwai is playing in Wellington" now... |
| 00:57 | wizzyrea | mua ha ha ha ha |
| 00:57 | dcook | wizzyrea: Scottish post-rock for what's that worth |
| 00:57 | wizzyrea | post-rock means next to 0 to me :P |
| 00:57 | dcook | Good lights too. I usually dislike the light shows at concerts, but it was pretty good |
| 00:57 | wizzyrea | < saw orbital once, not sure I've gone to a superior show since. |
| 00:58 | dcook | Man I haven't listened to orbital in ages... need to revise my playlist |
| 00:58 | wizzyrea | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBlyjoBBCHU |
| 00:59 | dcook | Man, KEXP is the best |
| 01:00 | This is one of my favourites: http://grooveshark.com/s/Mogwa[…]atan/2qhIZZ?src=5 | |
| 01:00 | It's over 16 minutes long though... so it's a bit of a thing | |
| 01:00 | wizzyrea | *can't talk, listening to orbital* |
| 01:00 | dcook | Much shorter but also great: http://grooveshark.com/s/Auto+Rock/4GeRtT?src=5 |
| 01:00 | Hehe | |
| 01:00 | * dcook | puts on orbital too |
| 01:01 | dcook | Oh nose! |
| 01:01 | Friend of a friend's radio show is going on right now... | |
| 01:02 | wizzyrea | also dj'ing from ipads. I may never get used to that. |
| 01:02 | dcook | Boo FBi radio... why does your online music player fail me... |
| 01:04 | eythian | anything that's not a link to a .m3u, .ogg, .mp3, or similar is probably a failure by default. |
| 01:04 | * dcook | shrugs |
| 01:04 | dcook | Found a different link which worked |
| 01:04 | http://fbiradio.com/on-air-now/ | |
| 01:07 | Oh! C4::Auth... that's what I was going to look at | |
| 01:21 | eythian | https://mozilla.github.io/serv[…]config-generator/ |
| 01:22 | rangi | oh cool |
| 01:22 | eythian | on of these days we should use that to update the ssl config on our sites |
| 01:22 | rangi | myup |
| 02:08 | Francesca joined #koha | |
| 02:09 | Francesca_ joined #koha | |
| 02:15 | eythian | https://recode.net/2015/02/18/[…]y-to-be-believed/ <-- ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha |
| 02:16 | wizzyrea | lolllll |
| 02:20 | eythian | 3.16.08 packages published |
| 02:35 | http://thenextweb.com/insider/[…]will-shut-june-1/ <-- what the shit | |
| 02:35 | oh, there's a migration path. | |
| 02:36 | new master packages uploaded | |
| 02:36 | rangi | annoying |
| 02:36 | thats where i keep all my stuff | |
| 02:36 | eythian | yeah, me too |
| 02:36 | rangi | ah well, at least its agpl3 |
| 02:37 | maybe ill just set up my own instance | |
| 02:37 | gitlab isn't horrible at least | |
| 02:37 | eythian | I've never actually used it |
| 02:38 | rangi | they use it at waikato uni |
| 02:38 | wizzyrea | aw |
| 02:38 | rangi | its kinda opencore which i dislike |
| 02:39 | and MIT expat license | |
| 02:40 | yeah i think ill set up my own gitorious .. or at least try | |
| 02:44 | also kinda glad we kept our own git server for koha | |
| 02:52 | BobB joined #koha | |
| 02:54 | dcook | Yeah, I'd been thinking about looking more at Gitlab and Gitorious... |
| 02:54 | I use Gitolite at the moment for my own servers.. | |
| 02:56 | Ah, Gitlab runs on top of Gitolite? | |
| 02:58 | rangi | we run gitolite for git.koha-community.org |
| 02:58 | its really solid | |
| 02:58 | dcook | I certainly have no complaints |
| 02:58 | rangi | the only issues we run into is lack of ram |
| 02:58 | but thats not it's fault | |
| 02:58 | gmcharlt | GARBAGE COLLECT ALL THE THINGS |
| 02:58 | ... tends to be its downfall :) | |
| 03:27 | eythian | http://www.torontosun.com/2015[…]p-spocking-5-bill <-- dcook |
| 03:36 | * Francesca_ | waves |
| 03:36 | rangi | hi Francesca_ |
| 03:36 | Francesca_ | Virtual machine up and running now |
| 03:36 | rangi | cool |
| 03:37 | Francesca_ | mouse started working after managing to install ubuntu |
| 03:37 | any websites that need doing? | |
| 03:38 | I might just go and do some stuff on the dashboard otherwise | |
| 03:38 | rangi | your first task would be to get hea running on the virtual machine |
| 03:38 | Francesca_ | hmmm |
| 03:38 | rangi | https://github.com/biblibre/hea-app |
| 03:38 | Francesca_ | how would I do that? |
| 03:42 | Just gotta set up a ssh key first | |
| 03:42 | and then I can clone it to my desktop in the vm | |
| 03:43 | * wizzyrea | is surprised you need an ssh key to clone |
| 03:43 | rangi | well you'll want the key to push your changes eventually |
| 03:43 | wizzyrea | I don't use gitorious though. |
| 03:43 | much. | |
| 03:44 | rangi | what you want to do is fork it in github first |
| 03:44 | then clone your fork | |
| 03:44 | wizzyrea | oh github |
| 03:44 | * wizzyrea | is doubly surprised |
| 03:44 | rangi | https://github.com/biblibre/hea-app/network <-- like aleisha did |
| 03:46 | Francesca_ | I have a fork in github |
| 03:46 | rangi | cool |
| 03:46 | so yep set up your ssh key | |
| 03:46 | Francesca_ | I already had one from last time |
| 03:46 | rangi | and then clone it using that |
| 03:46 | Francesca_ | just setting up the ssh key now |
| 03:46 | rangi | sweet |
| 03:46 | * Francesca_ | really needs to install irc in the vm |
| 03:46 | rocio left #koha | |
| 03:47 | Francesca_ | right key set up |
| 03:47 | just adding it now | |
| 03:48 | eythian | xchat is a pretty easy to work with IRC client. |
| 03:49 | Francesca_ | yeah |
| 03:49 | eythian | the vm will probably be most useful if you fullscreen it and pretend OSX doesn't exist. |
| 03:49 | Francesca_ | I already have an irc client for mac |
| 03:49 | eythian | http://time.com/12410/11-of-am[…]k-html-is-an-std/ |
| 03:49 | Francesca_ | so currently I am switching between mac and the vm so I can talk here |
| 03:50 | eythian | yeah, I'd install xchat to stop hopping back and forth all the time :) |
| 03:50 | wizzyrea | Francesca_: you should know that eythian gives very good advice. |
| 03:50 | :) | |
| 03:51 | Francesca_ | definantly |
| 03:51 | I'm just installing x-chat for the vm now | |
| 03:51 | wizzyrea | coolio |
| 03:51 | Francesca_ | then I can fullscreen and pretend that mac doesn't exist |
| 03:51 | wizzyrea | it's really gonna be easier on you that way :D |
| 03:51 | eythian | also, that way you don't have to deal with OSX being annoying and maccy :) |
| 03:52 | wizzyrea | hehehe |
| 03:52 | Francesca_ | lol |
| 03:53 | I shall return when x-chat is installed | |
| 03:53 | wizzyrea | farewell, sweet francesca |
| 04:00 | francesca joined #koha | |
| 04:00 | * francesca | waves |
| 04:00 | francesca | I'm back |
| 04:01 | rangi | and im leaving :) |
| 04:03 | francesca | see you later |
| 04:04 | dcook | I keep thinking I used to use xchat.. |
| 04:04 | Then switched to Hexchat for some reason | |
| 04:05 | francesca | I had to use hexchat on windows cas x-chat isnt free for windows |
| 04:05 | dcook | Ah, that's it |
| 04:05 | francesca | but I'm using x-chat azure or something for mac |
| 04:05 | * dcook | has a windows machine at work |
| 04:05 | waits for the boo-hiss | |
| 04:05 | eythian | boo-hiss |
| 04:05 | dcook | :) |
| 04:07 | francesca | I'm back on xchat now for my vm |
| 04:08 | dcook | wizzyrea: I think you need to have a SSH key set up if you're using ssh to clone? |
| 04:08 | eythian | http://i.imgur.com/dIUr2Hl.gifv |
| 04:08 | dcook | I work with Github so infrequently that I can't recall my setup.. |
| 04:08 | Maybe I do have it as HTTPS to clone and SSH to push.. | |
| 04:09 | bahah | |
| 04:09 | francesca | I thought you needed ssh to clone and push |
| 04:09 | dcook | It's very possible |
| 04:10 | francesca | but i usually work with gitorious so not totally sure |
| 04:11 | dcook | Hmm, looks like I have it setup to use SSH for both |
| 04:11 | francesca | thats what I've go I'm pretty sure |
| 04:14 | dcook | Mmm left over quesadillas |
| 04:15 | eythian | wahanui: sidewalk is a footpath for crabs |
| 04:15 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 04:16 | dcook | O_o |
| 04:16 | * francesca | is amused at what you can do with the bots |
| 04:16 | mtompset joined #koha | |
| 04:16 | dcook | Bots are pretty great |
| 04:17 | francesca | definantly |
| 04:17 | mtompset | No, you're great, dcook. :P |
| 04:17 | dcook | Whoa, I almost confessed personal nerd stories about bots back in the '90s |
| 04:17 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 04:17 | dcook | yo mtompset |
| 04:17 | eythian | wahanui: boten anna |
| 04:17 | wahanui | eythian: huh? |
| 04:17 | dcook | Thanks for the compliment :p |
| 04:17 | * francesca | waves at mtompset |
| 04:17 | mtompset | Greetings, francesca dcook eythian. :) |
| 04:17 | dcook | Actually, there was a trivia bot I used to interact with in the '90s which was rather great |
| 04:17 | It's how I learned how to type quickly | |
| 04:17 | * dcook | got annoyed by everyone else typing the answers he knew before he could type them out :p |
| 04:18 | mtompset | I know I could have written a better test plan, but adding "var and" to a bunch of things doesn't get my test plan writing juices flowing. |
| 04:18 | Anyone want an easy patch? :) | |
| 04:18 | * francesca | is waiting for brackets to install |
| 04:18 | mtompset | bug 13787 |
| 04:18 | eythian | wahanui: boten anna is <reply>http://youtu.be/E7iU0GGVco8 |
| 04:18 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 04:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13787 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Clean up noisy koha qa tool warnings |
| 04:19 | * dcook | looks at his inbox and thinks that bugzilla is going to have to wait a while |
| 04:19 | eythian | dcook: there's a video for you |
| 04:19 | mtompset | I know a bot! |
| 04:19 | Great video. | |
| 04:21 | francesca | question: does anyone know how you copy the contents of an ssh key to clipboard using a terminal window command? |
| 04:21 | eythian | you just cat the file |
| 04:21 | ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub most likely | |
| 04:22 | francesca | cat the file?? not sure I understand |
| 04:22 | eythian | then select it with the mouse |
| 04:22 | cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub | |
| 04:22 | assuming that's the filename | |
| 04:22 | francesca | that did it |
| 04:22 | pianohacker | back |
| 04:23 | dcook | Whoa! pianohacker: isn't it like bazillion o'clock? |
| 04:23 | pianohacker | still 4 or 5 hours until bedtime :) |
| 04:23 | dcook | 9:23pm, eh? Perhaps not bazillion... |
| 04:23 | You go to sleep much later than I do O_O | |
| 04:23 | On a week day at least... | |
| 04:24 | francesca | pianohacker: I like your username |
| 04:24 | pianohacker | joys of being a college student... both sarcastically in that I have a lot to do and non-sarcastically in that tomorrow begins at noon |
| 04:24 | thanks francesca :) | |
| 04:24 | francesca | how does one hack a piano I wonder |
| 04:24 | eythian | axe |
| 04:25 | pianohacker | I always like to think the piano is electric |
| 04:25 | dcook | hehe |
| 04:25 | eythian: Or chainsaw | |
| 04:25 | francesca | ahhh I acidentally fullsized my terminal window |
| 04:25 | dcook | My wife almost persuaded me to get a piano for our place, as it was being threatened by people with chainsaws |
| 04:26 | Alas, I refused. I'm sure the piano never even knew it had been hacked. | |
| 04:26 | francesca | lol |
| 04:26 | eythian | I helped move a piano once. It was quite a mission |
| 04:26 | francesca | how do I make the terminal window shrink? |
| 04:27 | oh its ok | |
| 04:27 | I unshrunk it | |
| 04:27 | dcook | eythian: My sympathies go to past you |
| 04:27 | It looked like it would've been quite the ordeal | |
| 04:28 | We also have really narrow stairways | |
| 04:28 | * dcook | didn't want to go insane...er. |
| 04:28 | dcook | Also, neither of us play the piano |
| 04:28 | Just saying | |
| 04:28 | pianohacker | you don't see professional refrigerator moving companies, or professional mattress moving companies, but people can make good money moving pianos just because it's so much work |
| 04:28 | (and so easy to mess up) | |
| 04:28 | mtompset | Greetings, pianohacker |
| 04:28 | pianohacker | yo mtompset |
| 04:28 | francesca | pianos are hard to move |
| 04:28 | my piano came from auckland | |
| 04:28 | pianohacker | especially long distances, with humidity and whatnot |
| 04:29 | what kind of piano? | |
| 04:29 | mtompset | I think dcook and pianohacker use the same greetings script. :P |
| 04:29 | dcook | mtompset: O_o |
| 04:29 | francesca | the poor movers then had to cart it up a steep path and several steps |
| 04:29 | dcook | Ah |
| 04:29 | I see | |
| 04:29 | pianohacker | mtompset: O_o |
| 04:29 | dcook | lol |
| 04:29 | * mtompset | laughs. |
| 04:29 | francesca | pianohacker: piano is a bernstein |
| 04:29 | mtompset | So which one of you is Anna? :P |
| 04:30 | pianohacker | upright or grand? |
| 04:31 | francesca | upright |
| 04:31 | we don't have anywhere enough room for a grand | |
| 04:32 | pianohacker | yeah... or possibly the floor strength :) |
| 04:32 | francesca | hmmm quite possibly |
| 04:32 | pianohacker | My piano teacher had a Steinway concert grand that was a joy to play on (still the best piano I've ever played) but required special floor supports to be installed |
| 04:33 | francesca | wow |
| 04:33 | my dad has a kawai upright | |
| 04:33 | I prefer the bernstein which lives at my mums | |
| 04:33 | but theres a really nice grand (or baby grand) yamaha (I think) that lives at the music school | |
| 04:34 | thats the best piano I've played so far | |
| 04:34 | pianohacker | I haven't played on either brand, but there are definitely some uprights that sound a lot tinnier and harpsichordy than others |
| 04:34 | yeahhhhh I've heard yamaha makes great grands | |
| 04:34 | * francesca | is installing git |
| 04:34 | pianohacker | for now, I'm sticking to my halfway decent casio weighted electric... |
| 04:34 | francesca | Sweet |
| 04:34 | hea-app is all set up now | |
| 04:35 | sounds cool | |
| 04:35 | I have a keyboard in my room | |
| 04:35 | the piano at my mums was lucky. it was my grandfathers, left to my aunt but she didnt have the space at her flat in auckland so it came to me | |
| 04:36 | pianohacker | what kind? (and hea-app sounds cool, I heard mutterings about it at the last hackfest or kohacon '13 but that was a while back) |
| 04:36 | very nice | |
| 04:36 | francesca | the keyboard is a yamaha |
| 04:36 | non-weighted keys | |
| 04:37 | hea-app looks very cool | |
| 04:37 | I just have to figure out how to get it to run | |
| 04:37 | maybe I'll ask rangi tomorrow or something | |
| 04:38 | pianohacker | francesca: out of curiosity, are you a new contributor/librarian? Can't say I've seen you around these parts before (though I'm not here much these days) |
| 04:38 | dcook | So I've been getting tons of phone calls and emails today... so I made a crack about it being a full moon out |
| 04:38 | pianohacker | I'm Jesse Weaver, by the way, a programmer with ByWater Solutions and recovering college student |
| 04:38 | dcook | Ah wait this is March |
| 04:39 | pianohacker | we not allowed to have full moons in march? |
| 04:39 | dcook | I guess the full moon is tomorrow |
| 04:39 | pianohacker: I thought it was yesterday, but I was looking at February :p | |
| 04:39 | francesca | pianohacker: yes and no. I've been doing stuff for koha as a volunter for almost a year now I guess |
| 04:39 | but I've only just cloned into hea-app | |
| 04:39 | and I only switched to mainly irc work this year | |
| 04:40 | pianohacker | francesca: ah, okay. I have seen your name pop up a few times, come to think of it. Good to meet you :) |
| 04:40 | francesca | you too |
| 04:40 | dcook | francesca has definitely been around a while |
| 04:40 | francesca | I did the academy back in 2014 |
| 04:40 | pianohacker | dcook: shows how much a ghost grad school has made me... |
| 04:40 | eythian | pianohacker: francesca is one of our vict^Wacademy students who hung around :) |
| 04:40 | francesca | or was it 2013.. |
| 04:40 | dcook | Well, timezones and such too |
| 04:40 | pianohacker | sweet! |
| 04:41 | dcook | francesa: I'm thinking maybe it was 2013? |
| 04:41 | Because wasn't there just a 2014 academy recently? | |
| 04:41 | francesca | makes more sense that way |
| 04:41 | oh it was the 2013/2014 academy | |
| 04:41 | the recent one was the 2014/2015 academy | |
| 04:41 | I had a friend doing that | |
| 04:42 | dcook | Mmm |
| 04:42 | mtompset | heintzman piano... That's what I played growing up. |
| 04:42 | dcook | francesa: Did you do much with computers before the academy? |
| 04:42 | francesca | I did computing at school |
| 04:43 | * dcook | is so envious |
| 04:43 | francesca | i was good at webpages and stuff |
| 04:43 | dcook | I did a "computers" class in high school... and it was basically me just doing the administration's computer work |
| 04:43 | yay free labour... | |
| 04:43 | * dcook | is from a rather remote country town though |
| 04:43 | dcook | errr was* |
| 04:43 | mtompset | The action was so light to the touch. These Yamaha and other pianos I played... I didn't like the touch. |
| 04:43 | francesca | pianohacker: since you've introduced yourself its my turn |
| 04:43 | dcook | Sydney isn't so remote.. |
| 04:43 | francesca | I'm francesca (obviosuly) first year music student at Victoria uni in wellington |
| 04:44 | also I like to build/fix/design websites for fun | |
| 04:44 | mtompset | performance or compositional, francesca? |
| 04:44 | francesca | I wanted to do performance |
| 04:44 | but i didnt get in | |
| 04:44 | so I do music studies | |
| 04:44 | and then I do all of the fun web stuff at koha | |
| 04:44 | pianohacker | mtompset: it's always a tradeoff; you're balancing between having such heavy action that your hands get tired and such light action that you can't precisely control loudness |
| 04:45 | francesca: cool! That's why you're so familiar with pianos :) | |
| 04:45 | francesca | lol yeah |
| 04:45 | its one of my instruments | |
| 04:45 | pianohacker | what else do you play? |
| 04:45 | francesca | I also sing, and play the recorder |
| 04:45 | i auditioned for classical voice at uni | |
| 04:46 | pianohacker | very cool |
| 04:47 | francesca | where abouts in the world are you pianohacker? |
| 04:47 | eythian | http://www.bash.org/?142934 <-- beware of talking to people who are far away |
| 04:48 | pianohacker | hahahaha yup that's a classic |
| 04:48 | on the same level as hunter2 imo | |
| 04:48 | francesca | hahaha thats funny |
| 04:48 | pianohacker: i might also show up as Francesca_ | |
| 04:48 | pianohacker | francesca: I'm over in Colorado in America, thus dcook's comments about my bedtime :) |
| 04:49 | you're in Australia, I'm guessing? | |
| 04:49 | francesca | Nope |
| 04:49 | NZ | |
| 04:49 | dcook | hehe |
| 04:49 | mtompset | pianohacker: You didn't scroll back. :P |
| 04:49 | eythian | geez, pianohacker |
| 04:49 | wahanui | pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems. |
| 04:49 | eythian | that's such an insult! |
| 04:49 | dcook | Better than calling her Australian, I guess :p |
| 04:49 | francesca | hold on I'm just gonna switch back to mac |
| 04:49 | definantly | |
| 04:49 | never call me an australian | |
| 04:49 | pianohacker | dammit, shows what happens when I assume from vague knowledge of ISPs... |
| 04:49 | dcook | francesca: I'm originally from Canada, so I sort of get it :p |
| 04:49 | pianohacker | sorry :) |
| 04:50 | francesca | my step-fathers from canada |
| 04:50 | eythian | oh, you saw telstra :) |
| 04:50 | pianohacker | yup |
| 04:50 | dcook | pianohacker: I've made the same mistake |
| 04:50 | francesca | pianohacker: all good :) |
| 04:50 | dcook | Telstra is everywhere O_O |
| 04:50 | mtompset | I'm Canadian and I'm in Canada (now) :) |
| 04:50 | eythian | the brief history is saturn -> telstra -> telstraclear -> vodafone |
| 04:50 | so now telstraclear doesn't really exist here any more | |
| 04:50 | pianohacker | mtompset: I'm in my home state, even, only two hours from my hometown... guess we're the boring ones |
| 04:50 | mtompset | Well, I'm going to watch some netflix and go to sleep. |
| 04:50 | Francesca_ joined #koha | |
| 04:51 | pianohacker | eythian: ah but their tlds and ip blocks move on |
| 04:51 | eythian | oh, I think there was paradise in there somewhere too. |
| 04:51 | * Francesca_ | has switched back to mac |
| 04:51 | eythian | yep |
| 04:51 | mtompset | I'm in the house I was in during highschool! :P |
| 04:51 | pianohacker | haha nice |
| 04:51 | mtompset | I'm more boring than you, pianohacker. :P |
| 04:52 | francesca | brb all, i'll talk to you all back on my mac os |
| 04:52 | pianohacker | I guess I'll have to concede defeat |
| 04:52 | mtompset | Have a great day (24 hour period), everyone. #koha francesca eythian pianohacker dcook even you silly bot, wahanui. :) |
| 04:52 | wahanui | mtompset: excuse me? |
| 04:52 | mtompset | You're excused, wahanui. :) |
| 04:52 | wahanui | mtompset: excuse me? |
| 04:53 | dcook | Hmm, yep, rather far from home these days |
| 04:53 | And no idea when I'll be back O_O | |
| 04:53 | Francesca_ | right I'm back |
| 04:53 | hahaha I'm really pleased with my quit message | |
| 04:54 | I'll have to set that on mac as well | |
| 04:54 | pianohacker | oh no, a doctor who fan in #koha |
| 04:54 | whatever shall we do | |
| 04:54 | Francesca_ | you'll survive |
| 04:54 | when I was at the academy I explained the doctors regeneration cycle on here | |
| 04:55 | pianohacker | heh, nice |
| 04:55 | Francesca_ | it was fun |
| 04:58 | * Francesca_ | is surprised at how quickly everyone has gone silent |
| 05:00 | waves goodbye | |
| 05:01 | Francesca_ | see ya later #koha, pianohacker it was fun talking to you |
| 05:01 | pianohacker | bye Francesca_ :) |
| 05:04 | dcook | Phone calls and emails |
| 05:04 | They'll get a person every time | |
| 05:05 | I've said it before and I'll say it again, I need a minion | |
| 06:07 | Wow, apparently Firefox can't properly render some PDFs... | |
| 06:07 | Prints out gibberish :S | |
| 06:07 | Works fine if you use an Adobe plugin though | |
| 06:07 | Anywho, later folks | |
| 06:07 | pianohacker: Hope you don't have to stay up too late... even if the day does start at noon :p | |
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| 07:45 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:52 | drojf | good morning #koha |
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| 08:01 | bag | #accounts-rewrite |
| 08:01 | cait | |
| 08:01 | khall: ^^^^ | |
| 08:01 | ashimema ^^^^ | |
| 08:01 | Joubu ^^^ | |
| 08:02 | I don’t think we can have a hangout - internet is too slow | |
| 08:03 | ashimema | I'm here.. though not very awake.. Amelia kept me up all night (and most of yesterday for that matter), so i've not got very far with getting back up to speed |
| 08:03 | bag | ok ashimema - rest up |
| 08:04 | cait | @wunder Marseille |
| 08:04 | @wunder marseille | |
| 08:04 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:30 AM CET on March 04, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:04 | cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:30 AM CET on March 04, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). | |
| 08:04 | ashimema | feels like there's a real lag here.. |
| 08:04 | cait | i guess i am back |
| 08:04 | ashimema | I'm happy to chat though.. perhaps squeeze in chat throughout the day if we're struggling with tinterweb |
| 08:04 | cait | but not sure how stable this is |
| 08:05 | bag | mainly what I was looking for - if anyone had any idea on how we could present the accounts rewrite - patch series etc - in a better manner |
| 08:05 | yes ashimema big lag here | |
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| 08:07 | cait | ok, joining the chat room |
| 08:07 | should we kind of try to do it now... set a time after lunch? | |
| 08:07 | ashimema | Hows about we leave that #accounts-rewrite chat open today and talk as an when the connections get less laggy.. |
| 08:07 | cait | bit worried if we do during the day it will get a bit hard to pay attention |
| 08:08 | dpavlin just promised working internets :) | |
| 08:08 | ashimema | at the moment for me, I'm getting 10 or so messages at a time.. or with relevant timestamps attached, but it aint half confusing trying to work out who was replying to who |
| 08:08 | lol | |
| 08:09 | dpavlin | |
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| 08:11 | magnuse | bonjour gaetan_B |
| 08:11 | gaetan_B | bonjour magnuse |
| 08:11 | ça va ? | |
| 08:12 | bag | amelia++ |
| 08:13 | magnuse | cet bon! |
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| 08:20 | matts | hi ! |
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| 08:41 | sophie_m2 | hi #koha |
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| 08:50 | matts | hello ashimema ! I've seen that you wanted to QA Bug 12887... There's no patch for it yet, but you can QA Bug 13507, which is signed-off, if you want to :) |
| 08:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12887 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , User logged out on refresh after CAS authentication |
| 08:50 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Signed Off , Add intranet support for CAS authentication | |
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| 08:59 | akafred | Koha in Docker (with Docker intro): My slot at 10 am has been hijacked! :) Trying again at 2 pm. cc: fridolin, khall |
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| 09:05 | Joubu | dpavlin: did you open a new bug report for plack stuffs? |
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| 09:08 | cait | trying to give some notes about the elastic search presentation |
| 09:08 | please feel free to correct any mistakes | |
| 09:08 | kind of introductory slides now | |
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| 09:09 | cait | morning atheia |
| 09:09 | atheia | morning :-) |
| 09:09 | cait | koha gruppo italiano, 3 libraries in rome |
| 09:10 | lobbying for funding | |
| 09:10 | and organize events | |
| 09:13 | dpavlin | Joubu: not yet. |
| 09:14 | I got side-tracked by facets encoding problem today, but I will open it later today if nobody beats to to it.... | |
| 09:16 | drojf | asking again if someone in marseille would care to share their microphone for the presentations/discussions :P |
| 09:16 | ashimema | drojf, I think their internets isn't really good enough for that.. |
| 09:17 | unless of course anyone has a dial in phone conference thingy we could use to listen in ;).. but that still relies on someone's phone line | |
| 09:17 | drojf | i think phone line would have been possible :D never looked into that |
| 09:19 | hm yes i see a lot of ping timeouts again when i scroll back | |
| 09:19 | ashimema | ;) |
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| 09:30 | cait | it's been a bit of struggle to stay online this morning :( |
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| 10:05 | cait | ...and we are back |
| 10:09 | dpavlin | Joubu: ok, plack bug 13791 is now live :-) attach your code there :-)) |
| 10:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13791 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Plack out of the box |
| 10:18 | magnuse_ | dpavlin++ Joubu++ |
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| 10:56 | tcohen | bonjour |
| 10:56 | wahanui | privet, tcohen |
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| 11:08 | Joubu | dpavlin: patch sent on bug 13793 |
| 11:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13793 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The installer does not output the result of the update using Plack |
| 11:08 | Joubu | dpavlin: does bug 13789 ready to be tested? |
| 11:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, NEW , facets with accented utf-8 characters generate double encoded links |
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| 11:18 | dpavlin | Joub |
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| 11:20 | bag | bug 11559 |
| 11:20 | dpavlin | dsadasdsadsa |
| 11:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Professional cataloger's interface |
| 11:21 | dpavlin | Joubu: no, bug 13789 is just XSS security hole for now. We are using [% SET foo = foo _ 'bar' | url %] in our code, but it doesn't do anything :-\ |
| 11:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, NEW , facets with accented utf-8 characters generate double encoded links |
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| 12:23 | tcohen | dpavlin: |
| 12:23 | available? | |
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| 12:34 | dpavlin | tcohen: yap. |
| 12:35 | tcohen | naming schema for the files |
| 12:35 | you said you didn't like plack.${interface} | |
| 12:36 | dpavlin | I was just wondering if word "port" should be part of filename, but it's probably not needed |
| 12:36 | magnuse | @seen ashimema |
| 12:36 | huginn | magnuse: ashimema was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 16 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <ashimema> ;) |
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| 12:39 | cait1 | guess we don't have a lucky day today |
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| 12:54 | gaetan_B | tcohen: do we have a release date for 3.20 ? |
| 12:55 | around the end of may it seems ? | |
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| 13:05 | cait1 | 22nd usually or around that |
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| 13:40 | francharb | Hi all |
| 13:42 | talljoy | morning! |
| 13:49 | cait1 | morning talljoy :) |
| 13:49 | talljoy | hiya cait! |
| 13:51 | magnuse | bonjour talljoy |
| 13:51 | talljoy | hola magnuse! |
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| 14:47 | dpavlin | Joubu: Bug 13789 |
| 14:47 | wahanui | hmmm... Bug 13789 is just XSS security hole for now. We are using [% SET foo = foo _ 'bar' |
| 14:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , facets with accented utf-8 characters generate double encoded links |
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| 14:47 | dpavlin | really? irc bot now has a opinion about my patch?! |
| 14:47 | * dpavlin | ignore this -- it was part of commit message :-) |
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| 15:05 | bag | magnuse: HI |
| 15:05 | wahanui | kia ora, bag |
| 15:05 | bag | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]t_state_of_plack_.28March_2015.29 |
| 15:05 | magnuse | bag: HI |
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| 15:22 | nlegrand | Hey #koha ! |
| 15:26 | clrh | hey nengard :) |
| 15:26 | nengard | hi |
| 15:26 | oh - you meant hey nlegrand | |
| 15:26 | :) | |
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| 15:34 | magnuse | hiya nlegrand |
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| 15:44 | nlegrand | :) |
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| 15:50 | francharb | hi nengard, are you available to talk about this : http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12446 |
| 15:50 | huginn | 04Bug 12446: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, simith.doliveira, In Discussion , Enable an adult to have a guarantor |
| 15:50 | francharb | ? |
| 15:50 | nengard | i'm here |
| 15:50 | francharb | :) |
| 15:50 | khall | me too |
| 15:51 | francharb | cool |
| 15:51 | what really bug me | |
| 15:51 | it's not adding a feature to this feature | |
| 15:51 | a swith to display the guarantor information, why not | |
| 15:51 | nengard | But it is. Right now Koha can't add adults as guarantees and so with this new patch you add new functionality |
| 15:52 | and it will upset many libraries | |
| 15:52 | new functions need on/off switches | |
| 15:52 | khall | which cannot be turned off |
| 15:52 | francharb | but it feels like we are trying to patch something quickly that should be done on a bigger scale |
| 15:52 | nengard, I just did | |
| 15:52 | I tested on master | |
| 15:52 | khall | that's just how it is, I've been in the exact same situation many times |
| 15:52 | jajm_ | khall, tcohen, Joubu, ... here is a POC of a REST API implementation with Mojolicious and its Swagger plugin: https://git.biblibre.com/bibli[…]olicious-rest-api |
| 15:53 | nengard | I'm confused francharb |
| 15:53 | francharb | khall, |
| 15:53 | khall | jajm: that's fantastic! |
| 15:53 | nengard | I love your feature - but it can't be on for everyone, it's something i know will upset many public libraries in the USA |
| 15:53 | It shouldn't be too hard to add an on/off option for libraries who don't want this | |
| 15:53 | francharb | nengard, khall, we are going to add what you want |
| 15:53 | nengard | cool! |
| 15:53 | francharb | but can we just talk briefly on this |
| 15:54 | because there is something for the community | |
| 15:54 | on the development guide line | |
| 15:54 | nengard | okay |
| 15:54 | khall | francharb: you can see an example of this on bug 9303 |
| 15:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9303 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , relative's checkouts in the opac |
| 15:54 | francharb | I just want your point of view |
| 15:54 | khall | we can't let something into master in a half-baked manner |
| 15:55 | francharb | khall, as a developer, do you think its a necessary evil (if i may say so) |
| 15:55 | khall | in this example I had a perfectly functional feature, but it needed much extra work to make it into master ( which it hasn't yet ) |
| 15:55 | francharb | adding small feature that should be maybe done on a bigger scale |
| 15:56 | nengard | Adding that feature will cause a huge uproar as it stands now :( so it's an evil that many libraries can't afford |
| 15:57 | I see how it would be useful to academic libraries - but public libraries will find it confusing, unecessary, and in the way | |
| 15:57 | they will ask how to turn it off and right now I can't do that | |
| 15:58 | francharb | I understand, I have the same query, could you remove the alternate address, etc. |
| 15:58 | I understand where it comes from | |
| 15:58 | khall | francharb: unfortunately the qa standard for koha isn't "push now, patch later" it's "patch now, push when it's ready" |
| 15:58 | francharb | I agree we should do something |
| 15:58 | nengard | i can remove the alternate address using the borrowerunwantedfields system preference |
| 15:59 | i cannot remove the guarantor that way because it will remove it from children and adults | |
| 15:59 | and libraries want it on children | |
| 15:59 | francharb | nengard, does it remove the block title as well? |
| 15:59 | nengard | yes |
| 15:59 | francharb | I just learned something ahah |
| 15:59 | ok | |
| 16:00 | khall, it's not about patching later | |
| 16:00 | it's about, what sounds to me part of another feature | |
| 16:01 | but like nengard said, we can already hide the other parts by hiding every field | |
| 16:01 | I thought you could't remove a block of information but just fields in this block... | |
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| 16:02 | bag | wow jajm - that’s nice |
| 16:02 | khall | francharb: the simple fact is that the patch negatively affects some users in a way that cannot be disabled. Until it can be enabled only for certain types of patrons it cannot pass qa. |
| 16:02 | nengard | francharb, you can't link adults to adults now - not really. the 'feature' you speak of is a bug. if you link a child to an adult and then change the child to an adult the adults are still linked - but i see no other way to do it |
| 16:02 | dpavlin | tcohen: WRT/ plack -- you will probably kill me (or something ;-) but I'm NOT running two plack processes for intranet and opac |
| 16:03 | nengard | it's a patch that's adding a feature that exploits a bug :( |
| 16:03 | dpavlin | tcohen: with some creative ProxyPass and ProxyPassReverse it's possible to run just one plack for both opac and intranet |
| 16:04 | drojf | hi again |
| 16:04 | francharb | khall, like I said, we will add a swith in the patron categorie. What was worring me is that, I had the feeling we were about to do something that should have be done differently |
| 16:04 | nengard, I'm on a patron card (adult) | |
| 16:05 | I click the "add children" button | |
| 16:05 | change the patron categorie to an adult category | |
| 16:05 | wahanui | francharb: that doesn't look right |
| 16:05 | francharb | save |
| 16:05 | It works on my installation | |
| 16:05 | then, you can see the guarantor and guarantee information on each card | |
| 16:06 | to me something was missing, we added it. to you, it was a bug from the beginning | |
| 16:06 | nengard | that's exploiting the bug .... |
| 16:06 | francharb | we should not have been able to save it |
| 16:06 | khall | no, the switch was actually my idea. That will be more than satisfy our requirements. |
| 16:07 | nengard | must run |
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| 16:07 | francharb | khall, do you have to go as well? |
| 16:07 | I just have a last question to implement this correctly | |
| 16:08 | On the patron category page, there will be a new button like "display the edit garantor information box" : yes | no | |
| 16:09 | by default, we will have "yes" for child and professional categories | |
| 16:09 | if yes, we display the edit guarantor box on the patron edit page | |
| 16:10 | khall, do you agree? | |
| 16:10 | is it what you had in mind? | |
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| 16:13 | khall | francharb: that is exactly what we have in mind |
| 16:13 | francharb | Perfect! |
| 16:13 | wahanui | perfect is the enemy of good |
| 16:14 | francharb | I'm going to comment and reassigne the issue to simith |
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| 17:29 | reiveune | bye |
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| 19:43 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 20:02 | mtompset | Did anyone else get the you're disabled email message? |
| 20:03 | "Your membership in the mailing list Koha has been disabled due to excessive bounces..." | |
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| 20:05 | mtompset | Serves me right for upgrading my VirtualBox while on IRC. :) |
| 20:05 | drojf | hi mtompset. i didn't |
| 20:05 | (get such an email) | |
| 20:06 | mtompset | Did you reply to any list emails? |
| 20:06 | drojf | yes |
| 20:06 | but on koha-devel, not on the main list | |
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| 20:07 | rangi | you'd only get that if it had 10 bounces from you |
| 20:08 | drojf | i'd blame hotmail |
| 20:10 | rangi | heh more bug statuses when people can't even use the ones we have consistently |
| 20:10 | that'll work well :) | |
| 20:11 | drojf | that's what i was thinking ;) |
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| 20:15 | jmsasse | talljoy: you got your ears on? |
| 20:15 | wnickc | anyone know why searching for "Indridason" doesn't work to pull up "Indraðason"? I know they are different characters, but "Bronte" seems to pull up "Brontë" |
| 20:15 | * talljoy | listens |
| 20:15 | talljoy | whats up jmsasse |
| 20:16 | jmsasse | Dani and I were to have a conf call at 2 today. |
| 20:16 | talljoy | ok |
| 20:16 | jmsasse | talljoy: haven't heard from her yet. |
| 20:16 | talljoy | i just pinged her. i had her working on a project. my apologies. she is calling now |
| 20:17 | jmsasse | thanks : ) |
| 20:17 | talljoy | sorry about that. |
| 20:17 | jmsasse | no problemo |
| 20:19 | rangi | wnickc: it's to do with the charmaps in the icu stuff |
| 20:21 | drojf | wnickc: do you have that in your icu file? |
| 20:21 | oh i should scroll down all the way. nevermind :D | |
| 20:25 | wnickc | thanks rangi and drojf |
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| 20:59 | * cait1 | waves |
| 21:01 | wnickc | hi cait |
| 21:30 | drojf | good night #koha |
| 21:34 | eythian | hi |
| 21:39 | cait1 | hi |
| 21:52 | jmsasse | Hi cait |
| 21:53 | cait1 | hi jmsasse |
| 21:53 | :) | |
| 21:54 | jmsasse | cait: Sind Sie im Frankreich? |
| 21:54 | cait1 | ja :) |
| 21:55 | cjh_ | :D |
| 21:55 | jmsasse | Viel Spass? |
| 21:57 | eythian | http://elasticsearch.koha.cata[…]rderby=HeadingAsc <-- the beginnings of authority support in elasticsearch |
| 21:57 | (paging doesn't work yet, that's expected, along with many other things :) | |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | heh, "used in 0 records " clicked > comes back with a record |
| 21:58 | eythian | yep |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | I assumed that fit in under "many other things" |
| 21:58 | eythian | that's because to count the number of biblios in use, koha actually goes and runs a search for each one. |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | ;) |
| 21:58 | eythian | I haven't built that yet :) |
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| 22:07 | tcohen | hi barton |
| 22:08 | barton | evening tcohen! |
| 22:08 | * dcook | waves |
| 22:08 | barton | eythian: w00t! |
| 22:09 | hi dcook! | |
| 22:09 | rangi | scoreboard updated |
| 22:09 | dcook | yo barton :) |
| 22:11 | cait | woohoo :) |
| 22:12 | eythian | wahanui: scoreboard |
| 22:12 | wahanui | rumour has it scoreboard is at http://scoreboard.koha-community.org |
| 22:13 | eythian | wahanui: what is the saddest thing |
| 22:13 | wahanui | the saddest thing is, like, http://cooleycooley.blogspot.c[…]iest-unicorn.html |
| 22:13 | eythian | wahanui: what is the saddest thing |
| 22:13 | wahanui | the saddest thing is probably http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F[…]orecasts_edit.png |
| 22:13 | eythian | wahanui: what is the saddest thing |
| 22:13 | wahanui | hmmm... the saddest thing is http://careydraws.tumblr.com/p[…]-comic-written-by |
| 22:14 | eythian | wahanui: what is the saddest thing |
| 22:14 | wahanui | the saddest thing is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F[…]orecasts_edit.png |
| 22:14 | eythian | wahanui: what is the saddest thing |
| 22:14 | wahanui | the saddest thing is http://www.planetary.org/blogs[…]70836-isee-3.html |
| 22:14 | eythian | wahanui: what is the saddest thing |
| 22:14 | wahanui | the saddest thing is http://careydraws.tumblr.com/p[…]-comic-written-by |
| 22:14 | eythian | wahanui: what is the saddest thing |
| 22:14 | wahanui | i guess the saddest thing is http://i39.tinypic.com/14jz15f.jpg |
| 22:14 | eythian | damnit, pretend it was the one about the whale |
| 22:14 | https://www.kickstarter.com/pr[…]find-lonely-whale | |
| 22:25 | dcook | O_O |
| 22:26 | Oh snap | |
| 22:26 | Poor unicorn.. | |
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| 22:58 | eythian | https://tugboatannie.bandcamp.[…]-space-around-you <-- in case anyone likes the sort of easy-going alt/indie rock sorta stuff, this is pretty good. |
| 23:14 | tcohen | dpavlin: i've solved the configuration for plack |
| 23:15 | mtompset | tcohen: Why not use the kohadev box? |
| 23:15 | plack set up by default. | |
| 23:16 | tcohen | yes but that's not what I'm trying to do |
| 23:16 | mtompset: thanks anyway | |
| 23:16 | mtompset | plack? |
| 23:16 | wahanui | Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information. |
| 23:17 | tcohen | we are working on plack out-of-the-box plack support on packages installs |
| 23:17 | that's it | |
| 23:18 | dcook | tcohen++ |
| 23:18 | That would be awesome :) | |
| 23:18 | eythian: Any recommendations or is it all good? | |
| 23:21 | tcohen | we are preparing the ground for it actually |
| 23:21 | adminsitration scripts, default configurations, koha-create tweaks, koha-plack tool, etc | |
| 23:21 | dcook | That's great :) |
| 23:22 | I keep thinking about trying to get a few of our sites set up on Plackc | |
| 23:22 | Plack* | |
| 23:22 | Just no time :S | |
| 23:22 | * dcook | blames the upcoming full moon |
| 23:23 | tcohen | dcook: maybe just upgrade them to 3.20 in may? =D |
| 23:24 | dcook | We don't use packages though :( |
| 23:24 | tcohen | ah, that's a pity |
| 23:24 | dcook | Such a pity |
| 23:24 | Slowly but surely I'm trying to push that way though | |
| 23:27 | Hehe. I had forgotten about this one -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtWirGxV7Q8 | |
| 23:28 | eythian: in case you want to hear the songs Mogwai played on Monday night ---> http://grooveshark.com/#!/play[…]ch+2015/104579711 | |
| 23:28 | tcohen | mogwai++ |
| 23:28 | dcook | no doubt |
| 23:29 | * dcook | hasn't made his daily mogwai post yet... :p |
| 23:29 | dcook | eythian: Still time for you to grab a ticket to see them :p |
| 23:31 | tcohen | night everyone |
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