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00:13 | dcook | @quote get 123 |
00:13 | wahanui | http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
00:13 | huginn | dcook: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
00:14 | dcook | ^so much |
00:52 | mtompset | That was a strange don't drink and drive commercial. |
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01:03 | mtompset | Was that a blip or a kick? |
01:03 | eythian | graviton fell over |
01:04 | mtompset | blip it is. :) |
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01:06 | dcook | eythian++ |
01:07 | For http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bleshooting_Zebra | |
01:07 | Ran into that "dom./home/robin/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/dom-config-marc.xml" thing again | |
01:07 | eythian | ah yep |
01:07 | dcook | Nasty that |
01:11 | mtompset | comments are only at the biblio level? |
01:15 | eythian | OPAC comments? If so, yes. |
01:15 | dcook | hmm something else appears to be up as well.. |
01:16 | Hmm needed a Zebra restart as well it seems | |
01:17 | eythian | yes, it will need that |
01:17 | dcook | Hmm can rebuild_zebra.pl not handle -a -x -r? |
01:17 | This is a non-Debian 3.8 though... so maybe it's just old | |
01:18 | Well, it is old. | |
01:18 | eythian | you can't do -a -x iirc |
01:18 | dcook | It looks like you can but you shouldn't :S |
01:18 | As it won't work | |
01:19 | eythian | I think the debian script stuff actively removes the -x for authorities |
01:19 | dcook | I wonder why it can't handle it... |
01:19 | Zebra limitation? | |
01:19 | Or us limitation? | |
01:21 | Oh well. DOesn't matter atm | |
01:23 | eythian | dunno. |
01:23 | you're the zebra expert. | |
01:23 | @marc 856 | |
01:23 | huginn | eythian: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. (Repeatable) (1 more message) |
01:23 | eythian | @more |
01:23 | huginn | eythian: [a,b,c,d,f,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z,2,3,6,8] |
01:40 | mtompset | 856? Why is someone looking at 856? :) |
01:41 | Thanks for the answer, eythian. :) | |
01:41 | (regarding comments for OPAC)_ | |
01:41 | eythian | because I was wanting to know if $CLIENT was using it wrong or if I was going crazy |
01:41 | turns out it's most likely the former. | |
01:42 | mtompset | whispers bug6874 (856$u) |
01:42 | :) | |
01:42 | eythian | bug 6874 |
01:42 | wahanui | bug 6874 is epic |
01:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , Attach a file to a MARC record (Was: File upload in MARC) |
01:42 | eythian | no, I don't particularly care about that at the moment. |
02:15 | @wunder nzwn | |
02:15 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 24.0°C (3:00 PM NZDT on March 05, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
02:19 | dcook | @wunder syd |
02:19 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 23.0°C (1:11 PM AEDT on March 05, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
02:20 | dcook | Whoa |
02:20 | That's different | |
02:20 | eythian | not raining there? |
02:20 | dcook | Nopes |
02:20 | Blue skies | |
02:20 | As for authorities, it's a Koha thing rather than a Zebra thing with the authorities :p | |
02:20 | At least, that's how it seems to me | |
02:21 | At a glance | |
02:21 | * dcook | is happy enough just not using -x |
02:21 | dcook | More emails to go so no time to look into it too much |
02:21 | eythian | I'm not surprised, I don't expect that zebra sees biblios and authorities as particularly different things |
02:21 | dcook | Only if there are config differences in the files, me thinks |
02:53 | mtompset | Okay. bug 1985 is back in order. :) |
02:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1985 enhancement, P3, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Email notification of new OPAC comments |
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03:33 | * Francesca | waves |
03:33 | Francesca | hi #koha |
04:19 | eythian | hi |
04:19 | wahanui | hey, eythian |
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04:46 | mtompset | Did I say 1985 was in order before? I went on a coding spree with it. It's really in order now. Wheeeeeee! :) |
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05:22 | Francesca | rangi are you around? |
05:28 | eythian | Francesca: he went home a while back, so it's possible but unlikely. |
05:30 | dcook | Haven't seen rangi around heaps lately... mind you I've been super busy lately myself.. |
05:32 | eythian | he's been here, but we're super flat out |
05:33 | dcook | Full moon... just saying |
05:33 | Seems to be a thing | |
05:34 | eythian | hmm, my watch doesn't have phase of the moon on it. |
05:34 | * dcook | should start tracking support calls against full moons |
05:34 | eythian | I should fix that. |
05:34 | dcook | I think it's a full moon tonight |
05:34 | So tonight should be the worst? | |
05:34 | eythian | though, in our case, we've been busy since the start of the year. |
05:34 | dcook | Well, there have been several full moons... |
05:34 | :p | |
05:34 | Nah, it's been a rather busy time for a while now | |
05:34 | eythian | that's how homeopathy started, dcook. |
05:34 | dcook | Did you know that kinesiology is crazy? |
05:34 | Or rather, "applied kinesiology"? | |
05:35 | Since "kinesiology" is actually biology and physics? | |
05:35 | I feel like we've talked about this before.. | |
05:35 | Probably around a previous full moon | |
05:35 | ;) | |
05:35 | eythian | I don't really know what applied kinesiology does |
05:36 | dcook | Nor do you want to |
05:36 | I'd love to know why trying to remove a restriction is causing all sorts of chaos in my 3.14... | |
05:36 | It's due to a local mod though so I'll just have to stumble about on my own | |
05:37 | eythian | "Koha Gruppo Italiano" always sounds like the title of a song to me. |
05:38 | dcook | I read it as "Koha Grappa Italiano", so I think of alcohol |
05:41 | eythian | never enjoyed grappa |
05:41 | dcook | Me either |
05:41 | eythian | but I've only tried it once |
05:41 | dcook | I've only ever tried the home-made stuff I think |
05:41 | I don't know how I'm not blind | |
05:42 | Francesca | I shall leave you incredibly busy people to it....I'm supposed to be working on a uni assignment |
05:42 | But its much more fun staying and chatting here | |
05:42 | eythian | Francesca: enjoy :D |
05:43 | dcook | It is more fun staying and chatting here :) |
05:43 | Francesca | see ya later eythian, dcook, #koha |
05:43 | dcook | I swear it keeps me sane sometimes |
05:43 | laters Francesca | |
05:43 | eythian | bye |
05:43 | dcook | moremember.pl... I'm coming for ya.. |
06:12 | mtompset | dcook: keeps you sane? Dude, you're already nuts. :P |
06:17 | dcook | It's true... #koha does drive me nuts sometimes :p |
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06:18 | drojf | morning #koha |
06:19 | dcook | hey drojf |
06:19 | drojf | hi dcook |
06:23 | mtompset | Greetings, drojf. |
06:23 | by the way, before I leave. Why did you say you were going after moremember.pl? :) | |
06:24 | ^you^dcook^ | |
06:24 | dcook | No concern of yours :). It's a local issue. |
06:24 | drojf | hi mtompset |
06:25 | mtompset | how do you know it isn't non-local? :P |
06:26 | dcook | Oh, I'm fairly sure. Admittedly, I need to investigate it more, but it's for a client with a particular local change. Everyone else seems fine who doesn't have that local change. |
06:26 | Ergo, fairly certain. But, I'll let you know :p | |
06:26 | Could certainly be wrong | |
06:27 | drojf | we all want that local change now :P |
06:27 | dcook | But it's 5:26pm and I should've left approximately 26 minutes ago |
06:27 | drojf: Haha. It requires a lot of changes before it would be community worthy | |
06:27 | mtompset | Okay. Well, I beat 1985 into submission, it's 1:26AM and I should have been in bed 1.5 hours ago. :P |
06:27 | dcook | I'm also not sure it's actually implemented 100% correctly, but I wasn't in charge of that momd... |
06:27 | mod* | |
06:27 | drojf | it's only 5:26pm, lots of time ^^ |
06:27 | dcook | hehe |
06:27 | Errands and chores to do :p | |
06:28 | drojf | :) |
06:28 | dcook | I think we have dinner guests tomorrow, so need to whip the house into shape |
06:28 | mtompset | Have a great day (24 hour period), everyone. #koha dcook drojf. :) |
06:28 | dcook | laterz |
06:28 | drojf | see you mto |
06:28 | * dcook | still isn't gone yet though :p |
06:28 | drojf | too fast |
06:28 | dcook | Having issues restoring a 3.14 database... |
06:28 | Not sure whether that's a mysql permissions thing or a data thing or what.. | |
06:28 | drojf | why? local changes? *hides* |
06:29 | dcook | hehe |
06:29 | You never know.. | |
06:29 | drojf | you should :P |
06:29 | dcook | hehe |
06:30 | I'm not the only one who manages the systems | |
06:30 | Which means sometimes I find things in a bit of... | |
06:30 | Well just unexpected configurations | |
06:30 | Like permissions accidentally being revoked and such | |
06:30 | I wanted that to be the problem now, but I don't know.. | |
06:30 | drojf | teamwork will do that :D |
06:30 | dcook | Yeah, damned teamwork! :p |
06:33 | The permissions in MySQL look OK... so not sure why it's not working.. | |
06:36 | Hmm... think I have an idea now.. | |
06:36 | Yay one down! | |
06:38 | drojf | :) |
06:39 | so what was the problem? | |
06:39 | dcook | Not 100% on the MySQL one |
06:39 | I often use the GUI tools for doing backups/restores | |
06:40 | I imagine there was something that wasn't being dropped properly so when it went to do the restore it ran into a conflict of some kind | |
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06:40 | dcook | I think it was foreign key related in some way |
06:41 | Actually, yeah... | |
06:41 | I think it tried to drop something which shouldn't be dropped until after another table is dropped or some such | |
06:41 | Should drop before doing a restore anyway.. | |
06:41 | yo cait | |
06:41 | cait | hi dcook |
06:41 | dcook | And the other problem is definitely local... and Auth.pm related (of course) |
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06:43 | dcook | Hmm, I see |
06:43 | if ( $ENV{HTTP_REFERER} =~ /moremember/ ) { | |
06:44 | It's not coming from moremember though... so it's getting redirected undesirably | |
06:44 | I think I'll just have ot fix that local mod... (which is an Athens authentication thing) | |
06:44 | Wanted to work on that for a whiel now... | |
06:44 | Anywho, home time! | |
06:44 | later cait and drojf :) | |
06:45 | drojf | see you dcook |
06:45 | hi cait | |
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06:48 | cait1 | hi drojf |
06:48 | not totally awake yet | |
06:48 | drojf | coffee? :) |
06:55 | cait1 | eythian++ |
06:55 | drojf: ew | |
06:55 | drojf | mate? :D |
06:58 | cait1 | they are all drinking it now here |
06:58 | it's spreading fast | |
06:58 | tcohen brought a lot of yerba | |
07:00 | drojf | heh |
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07:37 | marcelr | hi #koha |
07:38 | drojf | hi marcelr |
07:38 | marcelr | hi drojf |
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08:21 | matts | hi ! |
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08:43 | bag | bug 12399 |
08:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12399 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Passed QA , opaccredits printing at top on printable version |
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09:08 | BibIN | helo i watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U32yrPIkFo and it talks about the possibilety to add bib number as matching roles ... how can i do that ? |
09:10 | dpavlin | Joubu: I think that Bug 13789 is ready -- it also fixed sort by in interanet which was broken because of bad encoding, so I feel good about it :-) |
09:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , facets with accented utf-8 characters generate double encoded links |
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09:13 | Joubu | dpavlin: ok :) |
09:14 | dpavlin: did you test with different versions of Encode? | |
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09:38 | Joubu | khall: What about my comment on bug 12357? |
09:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12357 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Enhancements to RIS and BibTeX exporting |
09:39 | BibIN | Helo i dont find this (found it in documentation) Record matching rules are used when importing MARC records into Koha. Get there: More > Administration > Catalog > Record Matching Rules |
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09:41 | tcohen | morning! |
09:42 | BibIN | morning |
09:47 | nengard | BibIN, maybe you don't have permission to access the administration area? |
09:47 | drojf | BibIN: what version of koha are you running? |
09:47 | ah good point. what nengard says | |
09:47 | nengard | or that ^^ |
09:47 | drojf | :D |
09:47 | nengard | jinx :) |
09:47 | BibIN | 3.14.10.000 |
09:47 | drojf | :) |
09:47 | BibIN | did find the rules |
09:48 | probably have to add field 999 $d to add bibnumber | |
09:48 | or not :OP | |
09:53 | might be $c | |
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10:29 | matts | Hey everyone ! Both CAS patches (12887 and 13507) are now signed-off and are waiting to be QA'ed ! Save the kittens ! :) |
10:31 | magnuse | nice! |
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11:08 | magnuse | khall: re: bug 10937. trello says "Kyle Hal moved this card from Needs QA to "Assigned / Failed QA", but the status on the actual patch is "Signed off" |
11:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10937 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Signed Off , Option to hide and group itemtypes from advanced search |
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11:12 | nengard | magnuse it was probably a mistake ;) |
11:15 | magnuse | nengard: as long as we get it right in the end... ;-) |
11:15 | nengard | khall doesn't have sounds on his laptop so he never checks here |
11:15 | :) | |
11:28 | magnuse | nengard: ah, would you mind poking him about it? |
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12:23 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #642 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: FIXED) |
12:24 | Project Koha_Docs build #642: SUCCESS in 3 min 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/642/ | |
12:24 | Nicole C. Engard: testing | |
12:30 | magnuse_ | the followup on bug 12291 is an easy signoff :-) |
12:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12291 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , Replace the acronym HTML tag with abbr |
12:33 | nengard_ | @later tell bernardo I have created a 3.18 branch for the manual - can you email me the new links to the HTML files I can't find them in my emails |
12:33 | huginn | nengard_: The operation succeeded. |
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12:46 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Docs build #643: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/643/ |
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12:48 | nengard_ | morning meliss |
12:48 | meliss | morning nengard_ |
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12:54 | alex_a | khall: Rest API with Raisin (If you want to take a look): http://git.biblibre.com/biblib[…]s/raisin_rest_api |
12:55 | khall | alex_a: I'll take a look at that! |
12:56 | alex_a | thx |
13:00 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Docs build #644: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/644/ |
13:10 | nengard | dpavlin now you can sign off for me :) |
13:15 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Docs build #645: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/645/ |
13:19 | nengard | No it's not!!! |
13:19 | :) | |
13:19 | All I did was add a space :) it can't be failing | |
13:30 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Docs build #646: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/646/ |
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13:36 | nengard | dpavlin, 13795 |
13:38 | bag | dpavlin: done |
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13:40 | dpavlin | bag++ |
13:40 | magnuse | git bz attach is giving me this: UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe2 in position 656: ordinal not in range(128) |
13:41 | bag | you got skillz magnuse |
13:41 | magnuse | is there anything that can be done, except reovme the offending char from the commit message? |
13:42 | cait1 | update your git-bz! |
13:42 | yay academy students! | |
13:45 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Docs build #647: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/647/ |
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13:49 | magnuse | thanks cait1 and academy students! |
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14:00 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Docs build #648: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/648/ |
14:10 | alex_a | akafred, my email: alex.arnaudbiblibre.com |
14:14 | francharb | good morning all |
14:15 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Docs build #649: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/649/ |
14:16 | francharb | khall, hi! Has anyone already translated your offline circulation tool in french? |
14:22 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #650 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #642 2 hr 1 min ago) |
14:22 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
14:22 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
14:22 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Docs build #650: FIXED in 1 min 27 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/650/ |
14:22 | * Nicole C. Engard: Revert "testing" | |
14:22 | * Nicole C. Engard: test | |
14:22 | * Nicole C. Engard: Revert "test" | |
14:22 | * Nicole C. Engard: update for 3.20 | |
14:30 | Joubu | dpavlin: please don't hate me, I found another bug... |
14:33 | khall | francharb: I don't believe so, but I'd be willing to help if you want to try! |
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14:33 | francharb | khall, yes I want to! |
14:34 | khall | francharb: there is a tool for translating qt5 applications call Qt Linguist. The documentation for translating qt5 apps starts here: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/internationalization.html |
14:36 | francharb | khall, cool. I'll start from here. |
14:36 | magnuse | bug 12488 needs some attention from someone who knows their mysql. it makes the -d switc on bulkmarcimport.pl unusable |
14:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12488 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , bulkmarcimport.pl -d option should use DELETE instead of TRUNCATE |
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14:43 | Joubu | fredericd: around? |
14:56 | dpavlin | Joubu: is it too much to ask for another look at Bug 13789 ? ;-) |
14:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , facets with accented utf-8 characters generate double encoded links |
14:57 | Joubu | dpavlin: of course, I will :) |
14:58 | dpavlin | Joubu: please break it again (if you can ;-) |
15:00 | Joubu | dpavlin: Are you enjoying to fix unicode issues? :p |
15:00 | dpavlin | sure! by now it's almost masohistic pleasure.... |
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15:16 | Joubu | dpavlin: sorry, it works |
15:17 | dpavlin | Joubu++ |
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15:34 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11395: DBRev 3.19.00.013 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]205a5ae9f22754de4> / Bug 11395: A control field is a field with tag < 10 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]519a9039cdc87222a> / Bug 11395: Raise an alert if control field is used <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ff;h=1079f971e3bc |
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15:44 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13635: Unimarc - On editing a notice, the title should be displayed <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ac44bba223d891610> |
15:58 | Joubu | It would be nice if someone from the QA team has a look at bug 10363. khall and me cannot do it... |
15:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10363 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , There is no package for authorised values. |
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16:27 | drojf | pretty quiet today *whispers* |
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16:35 | talljoy | drojf: ssshhhhhhhh |
16:36 | jcamins you in today? | |
16:36 | drojf | oops :/ |
16:36 | :D | |
16:36 | talljoy | heh |
16:37 | jcamins | As much as I ever am. |
16:37 | talljoy | heh |
16:37 | is there an rfp or bz ticket for working other "Linker Options"? | |
16:37 | jcamins | Nope. |
16:38 | talljoy | i got a library keenly interested in that. |
16:38 | jcamins | I added that because adding hooks early is generally a good idea. |
16:39 | talljoy | ill pitch a development to her then. see if she bites. |
16:40 | thanks jcamins! | |
16:41 | did the 'broader term' linker option ever get fixed? i understood it did not work perfectly. | |
16:41 | jcamins | It never worked at all. |
16:41 | It wasn't really supposed to, either. | |
16:41 | I mean, not for LCSH. | |
16:42 | It worked fine for what it was designed for, which was non-precoordinated headings where authority control was only on $a. | |
16:43 | (this isn't how LCSH works, for anyone who can't follow my stream-of-consciousness responses) | |
16:44 | talljoy | right. |
16:44 | so for a local subject heading it would work? | |
16:44 | jcamins | Most likely. |
16:45 | talljoy | ok. i may set up a test site for her to look a this. |
16:45 | thanks! | |
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17:05 | talljoy | joubu are you in? |
17:18 | cait | gone for beer |
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19:44 | wnickc | 3VSPI025529875 |
19:44 | hah, this is not for checking in | |
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21:17 | rickx | hi guys |
21:18 | could someone tell me how can I include a subfield of the more_subfields_xml in the holding information OPAC | |
21:23 | must be entered as code directly in the opac-detail.tt file? | |
21:29 | I see that in the additem.tt file in the module cataloging staff, this is no problem because they show everything through a FOREACH item_loo IN item_loop | |
21:41 | someone who can help me | |
21:41 | ?? | |
21:41 | eythian | hi |
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22:10 | rickx | ?? |
22:14 | wnickc | Hi rickx |
22:14 | rickx | Hi wnickc |
22:15 | wnickc | I think a lot of people are at the heckfest in Marseille so no in the right time zone to help |
22:15 | I don't knwo the answer off the top of my head, but would suggest trying the listserv whenever you can't find someone available in here | |
22:15 | lists? | |
22:15 | wahanui | try 'listserv', wnickc |
22:16 | wnickc | listserv? |
22:16 | wahanui | try 'mailing list', wnickc |
22:16 | wnickc | mailing list? |
22:16 | wahanui | mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
22:16 | wnickc | takes me three tries every time |
22:17 | eythian | haha |
22:17 | rickx | I understand thank you very much for the info |
22:22 | BobB | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11395 |
22:22 | huginn | 04Bug 11395: new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Batch modifications for records |
22:22 | BobB | woot woot! |
22:23 | joubu ++ | |
22:26 | dcook | :D |
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22:33 | dcook | mod_debarment.pl is sure an interesting file... |
22:33 | Half-way between a service and a regular script... | |
22:34 | eythian | there's a few that do both |
22:34 | dcook | It seems to do neither? |
22:34 | You throw some parameters at it, and then depending on the HTTP_REFERER, it will redirect to another page | |
22:35 | I suppose I do have a script like that.. | |
22:35 | Well, except the HTTP_REFERER bit | |
22:35 | eythian | ah referer. The most misspelt and unreliable of headers. |
22:35 | dcook | hehe |
22:36 | pianohacker | O_o |
22:37 | * pianohacker | offers chocolate and the desperate pleas of a frazzled 22 year old to push bug 12272 so we can avoid such craziness in the future |
22:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12272 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, NEW , Refactor C4::Service API into Koha::Service class |
22:37 | dcook | ^ |
22:37 | Yeah, I'd love a proper Koha::Service class | |
22:38 | pianohacker: You should've gone to France! | |
22:38 | * eythian | grumbles about having to rewrite his stuff |
22:38 | dcook | eythian: That would be frustrating :( |
22:38 | eythian | eh, necessary anyway |
22:38 | not the end of the world. | |
22:38 | pianohacker | dcook: next year, when I'm no longer in school |
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22:38 | eythian | hi cait |
22:39 | go to bed. | |
22:39 | cait | hi eythian |
22:39 | dcook | Yeah, necessary, but I feel those grumbles |
22:39 | cait | heh soon |
22:39 | dcook | pianohacker: :D |
22:39 | * dcook | hopes Australia makes him a permanent resident so that he can travel abroad again some day |
22:39 | pianohacker | eythian: yeah... the old class was written by some numbnut who hated OOP, so backward compatibility isn't really an option |
22:39 | eythian | heh |
22:39 | pianohacker | but services in the new API are really pretty :) |
22:39 | eythian | yeah, that's good :) |
22:40 | dcook: you can't even go to NZ? | |
22:40 | pianohacker | hi cait |
22:40 | cait | hi pianohacker :) |
22:41 | dcook | eythian: Nopes :( |
22:41 | eythian | bugger |
22:41 | dcook | I suppose I could if I spent a bunch of money on special temporary visas |
22:41 | But that's just... nope | |
22:41 | eythian | yeah |
22:42 | dcook | Oh well. I think the minimum waiting period will have elapsed in a month |
22:42 | eythian | http://youtu.be/wDlUfvTtkF0 <-- neat music video |
22:42 | dcook | So hopefully I'll hear back between 1-4 months from now... |
22:42 | eythian | ah right |
22:42 | pianohacker | wait, what? You can't leave the country if you're not a resident? |
22:42 | dcook | pianohacker: Not while my PR is being considered |
22:42 | It's... weird | |
22:42 | pianohacker | how does that work? And were you denied on your last application? |
22:42 | dcook | Nope |
22:42 | * pianohacker | wonders if the US is the same way |
22:42 | dcook | It's complicated |
22:43 | eythian | I think it's a rule to ensure you're sticking it out, and not doing it for other reasons, or something like that. |
22:43 | I guess. | |
22:43 | pianohacker | ^ immigration law? naw |
22:43 | dcook | At the moment, I have two visas |
22:43 | I'm allowed to leave on one, but not on the other | |
22:43 | pianohacker | *blinks* ow |
22:43 | eythian | a lot of visas aren't reentrant, too |
22:43 | dcook | If my visa were declined, the visa I'm allowed to leave on would be removed I think |
22:43 | eythian | that's pretty common |
22:43 | dcook | But the other one, which you're given when y ou apply for PR, doesn't let you leave |
22:43 | Or it gets removed | |
22:43 | So if I leave the country and my application is declined, I'd have to leave immediately | |
22:43 | pianohacker | eythian: yeah, guess it does makes sense for that. Just had never heard of that |
22:44 | dcook: fingers crossed, then. | |
22:44 | dcook | eythian: that is a neat video |
22:44 | pianohacker: No doubt | |
22:44 | As is, if it's declined, I'll have 30 days to do something | |
22:44 | But it'll probably be accepted | |
22:44 | But anything is possible, right? | |
22:45 | The uncertainty blows... and then start thinking about it from the perspective of people who aren't educated, don't have English as a first language, etc. | |
22:45 | Immigration is hard :/ | |
22:45 | pianohacker | yeah... |
22:45 | dcook | But worst comes to worst, I still come from a pretty rad country :) |
22:46 | And there's always another application | |
22:46 | So not the end of the world :) | |
22:46 | Actually, while on the topic, American emigrants have it the worst | |
22:47 | They get taxed on world wide income in America even after they've emigrated | |
22:47 | I'm sure most if not all must be covered by foreign tax credits, but still... | |
22:49 | wizzyrea | only two nation-states in the world tax the worldwide income of their residents. one is a fascist state run by lunatics, the other is eritrea. |
22:50 | dcook | hehe |
22:50 | wizzyrea | s/residents/citizens/ |
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22:50 | pianohacker | that always threw me for a loop... would you have to renounce your citizenship or something to avoid that? |
22:51 | * dcook | thinks that's how that goes |
22:51 | pianohacker | jeez. |
22:51 | wizzyrea | yes, you would have to do that |
22:51 | and then face a lifetime of being hassled at the border to the US | |
22:52 | and it used to be pretty cheap, $500, to renounce | |
22:52 | now it's something like 13k | |
22:52 | eythian | wow what? |
22:52 | pianohacker | what?! |
22:52 | that's asinine | |
22:52 | dcook | Wow... |
22:52 | eythian | Early termination fee? :) |
22:52 | wizzyrea | haha |
22:53 | it may not be that much. I don't want to spread misinformation - let me look it up | |
22:53 | dcook | But misinformation is the best! |
22:53 | At least that's what I was told... | |
22:54 | wizzyrea | In 2008, Congress enacted the Heroes Earnings Assistance and Relief Act that imposes a penalty—an "exit tax" or expatriation tax—on certain people who give up their U.S. citizenship or long-term permanent residence.[35] Effective June 2008, U.S. citizens who renounce their citizenship are subject under certain circumstances to an expatriation tax, which is meant to extract from the expatriate taxes that would have been paid had they |
22:54 | remained a citizen: all property of a covered expatriate is deemed sold for its fair market value on the day before the expatriation date, which usually results in a capital gain, which is taxable income.[36] Eduardo Saverin, a Brazilian-born co-founder of Facebook, renounced his U.S. citizenship just before the company's expected initial public offering; the timing prompted media speculation that the act was motivated by potential U.S. | |
22:54 | tax obligations.[27] | |
22:54 | pianohacker | _wow_ |
22:55 | wizzyrea | oh sorry, it's 2,350 up from 450 |
22:55 | plus whatever you have that could be taxed as above. | |
22:55 | dcook | Mmm Canada has the capital gains tax as well |
22:55 | pianohacker | still $2350 higher than it should be |
22:55 | dcook | Yay for being poor! |
22:55 | wizzyrea | you guys elected them. :P |
22:56 | pianohacker | weren't you in the US in 2008? ;) |
22:57 | wizzyrea | Yep, but not in 2012 |
22:57 | pianohacker | ah okay |
22:58 | That is really rather spectacular. The foreign taxation stuff also can't be much fun for you or trea... | |
22:58 | wizzyrea | there are agreements between certain nations |
22:58 | it's not terrible. | |
22:58 | for NZ | |
22:58 | pianohacker | ah, I guess that's something :/ |
23:01 | dcook | Same with Aus |
23:01 | Although it can be tricky for students | |
23:01 | Like... | |
23:01 | While I was considered a Canadian resident, I made income in Australia and paid tax in Australia | |
23:02 | That was considered taxable income in Canada, but because there's a tax treaty, I could claim foreign tax credits | |
23:02 | But... the tax agency took my student tax credits before the foreign tax credits... | |
23:02 | And student tax credits are super valuable... | |
23:03 | So I was annoyed by the tax folks taking all my student tax credits when it would have actually been fair if they took the foreign tax credits | |
23:03 | ... I may have also considered studying international tax law after working at a private law firm that had a sizeable tax department... | |
23:03 | The amount of resources available on "tax shelters" is staggering | |
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23:13 | dcook | Interesting... checkauth() things you're in the opac unless you tell it you're not... |
23:13 | hmm | |
23:14 | And mod_debarment.pl doesn't say it's in the intranet... | |
23:19 | Hmm mod_debarment.pl is only used in "koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/borrower_debarments.inc" | |
23:20 | So I'm thinking it's an intranet only script... | |
23:20 | And since it's using checkauth() rather than the service auth... I'm just going to sneak in a little "type => 'intranet'" into that bad boy... | |
23:20 | Or whatever the equivalent is.. | |
23:22 | Ahh... master already has it | |
23:22 | master++ | |
23:22 | @master | |
23:22 | huginn | dcook: I suck |
23:22 | dcook | @karma master |
23:22 | huginn | dcook: Karma for "master" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
23:23 | * dcook | really needs to check master more often... |
23:23 | dcook | oleonard++ |
23:24 | pianohacker | oleonard++ |
23:24 | dcook | Seriously, oleonard is a champion |
23:24 | He needs to inherit a fortune so that he can tour the world and not be so far away though :p | |
23:24 | Or win the lottery | |
23:24 | That would work too | |
23:32 | eythian might like these: | |
23:32 | "Teen pregnancies drop significantly after age 19." | |
23:32 | "Skydiving without a parachute is a once in a lifetime experience." | |
23:57 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
23:57 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (12:30 PM NZDT on March 06, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Steady). |
23:57 | wizzyrea | light rain. oh weather underground you are funny. |
23:59 | dcook | @syd |
23:59 | huginn | dcook: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
23:59 | dcook | @wunder syd |
23:59 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 22.0°C (10:39 AM AEDT on March 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
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