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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | rangi | what does it do when they don't .. pick the first? |
| 00:00 | mtompset | I got the second. |
| 00:01 | rangi | yeah probably have to fail it in that case |
| 00:01 | mtompset | Actually, this patch doesn't log out of Google. |
| 00:01 | rangi | it's the OAuth one? |
| 00:01 | mtompset | Yes. |
| 00:01 | rangi | basically it should be a consistent thing |
| 00:01 | and then a big note if you switch on the syspref or something | |
| 00:02 | it'd be a good feature to have i think | |
| 00:03 | mtompset | Is there an API way to log out of Google? |
| 00:03 | it wouldn't be hard to add, if there is. | |
| 00:03 | JesseM joined #koha | |
| 00:17 | wizzyrea | koha doesn't look for alternate spellings - or is that "did you mean" |
| 00:19 | no, not did you mean | |
| 00:19 | rangi | fuzzy |
| 00:19 | it does, but it's a bit too overzealous | |
| 00:19 | eythian | fuzzy would probably get some, but it'd lower their rankings |
| 00:19 | rangi | yeah |
| 00:28 | wizzyrea | we are talking color/colour |
| 00:29 | rangi | fuzzy would get that |
| 00:29 | but it will mess up the rest of the searching | |
| 00:29 | wizzyrea | heh |
| 00:29 | rangi | it might be ok for them, they only have a few thousand titles eh? |
| 00:30 | wizzyrea | yeah. |
| 00:30 | it's already on tho. | |
| 00:30 | eythian | fuzzy isn't the best solution to that. Some thesaurus type system would be, I don't know if zebra can do that, but I wouldn't be surprised if it can. |
| 00:30 | wahanui: dcook | |
| 00:30 | wahanui | dcook is probably the designated masochist |
| 00:30 | eythian | wahanui: dcook |
| 00:30 | wahanui | hmmm... dcook is the Last Saskatchewan Pirate |
| 00:30 | eythian | wahanui: dcook |
| 00:30 | wahanui | dcook is, like, the Last Saskatchewan Pirate |
| 00:30 | eythian | wahanui: dcook |
| 00:30 | wahanui | dcook is, like, a zebra expert now |
| 00:30 | eythian | there |
| 00:30 | wizzyrea | hah |
| 00:30 | rangi | hmm in that case, all you can really do is switch on the authority see also thing |
| 00:31 | wizzyrea | yeahh |
| 00:31 | rangi | 2 secs |
| 00:32 | wizzyrea | designated masochist *and* the zebra expert - something about these seems to go together. |
| 00:32 | eythian | yep |
| 00:33 | wizzyrea | isn't there a bug with stemming/fuzzy |
| 00:33 | relevance is out the window? | |
| 00:33 | or something. | |
| 00:33 | wahanui | something is sketchy |
| 00:33 | wizzyrea | yes. exactly. |
| 00:34 | eythian | it's autotruncation I think |
| 00:34 | rangi | its all of them |
| 00:35 | they all make relevance work differntly or not at all | |
| 00:35 | wizzyrea | yay? |
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| 01:09 | Francesca | hey rangi do I hit try ubuntu or install or ubuntu? its install right? |
| 01:10 | rangi | install yep |
| 01:10 | Francesca | hmm can't seem to move my mouse inside the vm |
| 01:10 | rangi | try clicking inside it |
| 01:11 | Francesca | it works outside of the install window |
| 01:11 | rangi | theres some trick with virtualbox to make it grab the mouse then release it again |
| 01:11 | Francesca | but when I try to hit install the mouse is frozen in place |
| 01:11 | rangi | you should be able to hit tab and enter |
| 01:13 | http://www.virtualbox.org/manu[…]keyb_mouse_normal | |
| 01:13 | that any help? | |
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| 01:29 | mtompset | Did you install the guest plugins? |
| 01:29 | And right ctrl is usually the toggle key for mouse capturing. | |
| 01:29 | Did you solve your problem, Francesca? | |
| 01:30 | Francesca | nope still not working |
| 01:30 | mtompset | What's your host OS? |
| 01:30 | (i.e. viritual box is running under...) | |
| 01:30 | Francesca | mac yosemite (10.10) I think |
| 01:31 | and I'm trying to set up the vm to run ubuntu | |
| 01:31 | mtompset | Oh... different meta key. |
| 01:31 | Not sure what the meta key for MAc is. | |
| 01:32 | Francesca | To capture the mouse I can use left command |
| 01:32 | but that doesnt unfreeze the mouse | |
| 01:32 | mtompset | out of curiousity... |
| 01:32 | eythian | Have you installed it, or is this still the live image? |
| 01:33 | Francesca | Virtual box is installed |
| 01:33 | currently its set to try ubuntu | |
| 01:33 | but using my arrow keys I managed to open the installer | |
| 01:34 | what's a live image? | |
| 01:34 | mtompset | rangi: I figured out how to revoke the access token, but that doesn't sign out of Google. |
| 01:34 | eythian | the CD you can boot from and use it there. |
| 01:35 | I'm just wondering - if you get it installed, it may then run in seamless mode which is better anyway. | |
| 01:35 | Francesca | right I don't have a cd |
| 01:35 | I downloaded a disk image to boot from | |
| 01:35 | eythian | that's the same thing |
| 01:35 | Francesca | ok |
| 01:35 | seamless mode? | |
| 01:35 | wahanui | seamless mode is probably really cool! |
| 01:35 | eythian | A CD is just a convenient place to put a disk image |
| 01:35 | it's where you don't need to capture the mouse, it all just works like you'd expect any window to work | |
| 01:36 | Francesca | hmm well I'll see what happens when I get ubuntu installed in the VM |
| 01:36 | fingers crossed the mouse starts working | |
| 01:38 | mtompset | Are you installing desktop or server? |
| 01:38 | eythian | the mouse would be less important for server |
| 01:39 | mtompset | you may not even get it if you are installing server. |
| 01:40 | eythian | you don't get a GUI if you're installing server. |
| 01:41 | and I haven't seen GPM installed on a computer for many years now. | |
| 01:49 | jcamins | Francesca: when I've installed Ubuntu on VirtualBox, I don't recall there being any mouse. |
| 01:49 | I mean, once it was installed, yes. | |
| 01:49 | But not in the installer. | |
| 01:50 | And the host key is the left command key. | |
| 01:50 | Francesca | it works now! |
| 01:50 | Yay! | |
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| 02:05 | wizzyrea | francesca? |
| 02:05 | wahanui | I love the 11th doctor! |
| 02:05 | wizzyrea | wizzyrea? |
| 02:05 | wahanui | you are a Cylon, and they all have plans. |
| 02:24 | mtompset | But we know the Daleks would destroy the Cylons. :P |
| 02:30 | indradg | hi |
| 02:30 | wahanui | hi, indradg |
| 02:38 | wizzyrea | :) maybe so |
| 02:39 | indradg | i'm facing a curious problem after addinga new field in 952 :) |
| 02:39 | the field show up in the marc editor on additem.pl | |
| 02:40 | the new field is is authval based dropdown | |
| 02:40 | I can select a value and submit | |
| 02:40 | the data is getting submitted (i check with TamperData) | |
| 02:40 | but it is not being saved in the database | |
| 02:41 | eythian | I would expect it to go in the other marc blob place |
| 02:41 | marc_subfields_xml or something | |
| 02:41 | indradg | however should I try to edit the item records (after saving it once), Ithe data gets saves |
| 02:41 | eythian | oh |
| 02:41 | odd | |
| 02:42 | indradg | and since it is 952 the data will go into items |
| 02:42 | eythian | did you make a special column for it or something? |
| 02:43 | indradg | yes... added a new column in items |
| 02:43 | eythian | and you added the extra mapping as well is just the framework? |
| 02:43 | *as well as | |
| 02:43 | indradg | sub field to items.fundsource |
| 02:44 | first pass, data is submitted but not saved in the db, second pass (edit) data gets saved | |
| 02:45 | edit another pre-existing 952 field like say $e and linking that field to the authval picklist does not have this problem | |
| 02:45 | eythian ^^ | |
| 02:45 | eythian | but did you add the mapping in the thing that maps columns to marc fields? Not just in the framework? |
| 02:46 | (I don't really know what hte issue is, I'm just running through what I would have thought of to double check.) | |
| 02:46 | wizzyrea | the koha -> marc mapping tool in administration |
| 02:46 | eythian | that's the one |
| 02:49 | indradg | wizzyrea: koha to marc mapping is there... bib framework test also gives out no error |
| 02:50 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 02:50 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 24.0°C (3:30 PM NZDT on March 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 02:50 | wizzyrea | get your togs, it's a swimmin' day |
| 02:51 | indradg | @wunder kolkata |
| 02:51 | huginn | indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 22.0°C (7:50 AM IST on March 03, 2015). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 02:55 | wizzyrea | is that warm or cool for kolkata? well I suppose it's early morning so... |
| 02:56 | dcook | @wunder syd |
| 02:56 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 27.0°C (1:30 PM AEDT on March 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 02:57 | dcook | Hmm, it did feel a bit warm on the way in from the orthodontist.. |
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| 02:57 | dcook | Also, mogwai mogwai mogwai :p |
| 02:58 | eythian | they can't play after midnight |
| 02:58 | dcook | So that's why the show stopped before that... |
| 02:58 | Half tempted to fly to the Brisbane show tomorrow which may or may not go later :o | |
| 02:58 | Don't really understand this "curfew" stuff though | |
| 02:58 | The bar/thing has a curfew of 11pm? | |
| 02:59 | eythian | usually depends on licensing |
| 02:59 | dcook | Does that mean that people who are already in can stay in, and that new people can't? |
| 02:59 | Or they stop serving at that point? | |
| 02:59 | * dcook | always associated "curfew" with teenagers |
| 02:59 | eythian | depends on the license |
| 02:59 | dcook | Fair enough |
| 03:00 | eythian | which is (here at least) a combination of government rules and local council rules. |
| 03:00 | dcook | That sounds like something which would be a thing here |
| 03:00 | Also, riddle me this | |
| 03:00 | Why would a person say X is fixed when X hasn't been fixed? | |
| 03:00 | I would guess to save face in front of Y, except I'm going to now tell said person and Y that X hasn't been fixed... | |
| 03:01 | I feel like there's a relevant Simpsons quote... I just don't know it | |
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| 03:01 | indradg | wizzyrea: it is supposed to be spring... but we are sweating it out duing the day without air conditioning :) |
| 03:01 | eythian | dcook: people are strange sometimes |
| 03:03 | dcook | I'm guessing that must be it :S |
| 03:03 | Or they didn't push to prod | |
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| 03:09 | wizzyrea | a mistake is a much more likely scenario |
| 03:09 | dcook | Well, I guess you don't know all the back history :p |
| 03:09 | wizzyrea | "never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence" |
| 03:10 | dcook | Ahh, yes. |
| 03:10 | Very much that. | |
| 03:10 | Oh well. I'll just be glad when the project is done. | |
| 03:10 | wizzyrea | or at least think very hard before attributing such things to malice. |
| 03:11 | dcook | Well, I haven't attributed it to anything completely yet. I'm just puzzled. |
| 03:11 | Highlighting lots of mistakes lately... | |
| 03:11 | Not that I don't make my own mistakes. | |
| 03:11 | * dcook | needs to find some time to fix some of his own mistakes on Bugzilla one of these days |
| 03:16 | dcook | Yay! They fixed it! |
| 03:53 | indradg | wizzyrea, eythian: figured out what the problem was! :) |
| 03:54 | had to map the field into C4/Items.pm for the insert | |
| 03:58 | dcook | :S |
| 03:58 | indradg: Which part of C4::Items? | |
| 03:59 | Ah, _koha_new_item | |
| 04:00 | indradg | dcook: yep! |
| 04:00 | dcook | That should probably use DBIC these days |
| 04:00 | indradg | since the update was looping through the keys, that was working :P |
| 04:01 | dcook | heh |
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| 04:02 | dcook | You can tell how often we add things to the items table, I guess :p |
| 04:02 | eythian | indradg: if you had to patch the source, then it's probably worth making a bug for it as it really shouldn't be necessary. |
| 04:04 | * dcook | was thinking about suggesting that as well |
| 04:05 | indradg | i was just writing out the use-case :-) |
| 04:06 | college libraries in India are having problems migrating to Koha without this "feature" that I'm tinkering with | |
| 04:06 | governmental funding compliance | |
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| 05:45 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
| 05:51 | dcook | Bleargh... |
| 05:51 | Auth.pm bugs are the blurst | |
| 05:53 | Especially when they're in master.. | |
| 05:55 | we declare $sessionID twice in checkauth() :/ | |
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| 05:55 | dcook | Not necessarily much of a bug, but certainly a bug.. |
| 05:57 | Surely that second declaration is a mistake.. | |
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| 06:00 | drojf | morning |
| 06:00 | dcook | yo drojf |
| 06:01 | drojf | hey dcook |
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| 06:54 | drojf | when i do git fetch, i get fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly |
| 06:54 | i can apply patches though | |
| 07:13 | rangi | patches dont touch the git server |
| 07:13 | its probably being hammered | |
| 07:14 | yeah it has max number of connections open, try again in a few minutes | |
| 07:16 | try that now drojf | |
| 07:17 | hmmmm | |
| 07:17 | no 3.16 or 3.14 for feb eh? | |
| 07:17 | drojf | working, thanks rangi |
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| 07:52 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:52 | wahanui | kia ora, reiveune |
| 07:53 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 07:54 | reiveune | magnuse: hi, it's the first time I can say you "hello" on irc and see you irl |
| 07:55 | magnuse | reiveune: :-) |
| 07:56 | bag | morning |
| 07:59 | magnuse | bag: HI |
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| 08:00 | * bag | holds out fist ;) |
| 08:00 | * nengard | does back |
| 08:00 | bag | heya nengard - feel better |
| 08:00 | nengard | enough to get up and get some cereal - hoping some food in tummy will stop the burning :) |
| 08:00 | and then will head out | |
| 08:00 | I can particpate virtually for now :) | |
| 08:01 | bag | yeah take it slow nengard |
| 08:05 | magnuse | @quote 123 |
| 08:05 | wahanui | @quote get 123 |
| 08:05 | huginn | magnuse: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 08:05 | wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) | |
| 08:05 | wahanui | ...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>... |
| 08:07 | matts | hi #koha ! |
| 08:07 | nengard | hi |
| 08:07 | wahanui | hola, nengard |
| 08:09 | rangi | yeah buddy |
| 08:09 | wahanui | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD0mif8R9vQ |
| 08:14 | magnuse | kia ora rangi |
| 08:15 | rangi | hey magnuse |
| 08:15 | wahanui | rumour has it magnuse is a Norwegian giant |
| 08:15 | nengard | ha |
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| 08:15 | bag | bonjour fridolin |
| 08:15 | fridolin | bonjour tout le monde |
| 08:16 | akafred: yep, small question | |
| 08:17 | are you in a 64 bits en ? | |
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| 08:20 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:20 | sophie_m | hi #koha |
| 08:22 | tcohen | morning #koha |
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| 08:23 | cait | morning koha |
| 08:23 | #koha even :) | |
| 08:27 | akafred | Bonjour tous le monde! (literally :)) |
| 08:27 | fridolin: Yes, I am. | |
| 08:29 | mtj | rangi: i aim to upload the 3.16 release stuff tonite |
| 08:30 | hi all | |
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| 08:38 | fridolin | akafred: perfect because my install is a 64bitss |
| 08:41 | * akafred | likes the wired network way better than the wireless from yesterday ... (I have also disabled my wireless just in case it helps those still on wireless) #hfk15 |
| 08:42 | tcohen | akafred |
| 08:42 | akafred++ | |
| 08:43 | nengard | headed your way now |
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| 08:43 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 08:46 | akafred | Joubu: Have you looked at https://metacpan.org/pod/Test::Lithium ? |
| 08:48 | Joubu | akafred: not at all, but looks great :) |
| 08:48 | clrh | hello people |
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| 08:49 | akafred | Joubu: I haven't tried it, but it looks a little higher level than Selenium::Remote::Driver. |
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| 09:04 | akafred | Joubu: If you want to play around with the setup I used yesterday, I've made a branch with only the virtual machine we use for testing: https://github.com/digibib/ls.[…]tree/vm-test-only The README has installation instructions for Ubuntu, Mac and ... Windo$. |
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| 09:06 | akafred | Plack discussion now ... #hfk15 |
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| 09:17 | nengard | a few wrong turns, but i made it ;) |
| 09:23 | ashimema | can someone make notes about the plack discussion.. |
| 09:23 | it's one i would have lvoed to attend if I were there | |
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| 09:32 | cait | sorry, they lost me |
| 09:32 | but alex is sitting in on it | |
| 09:37 | akafred | ashimema: dpavlin says they have run Intra on Plack for about a year. They run with max-workers=1 which means plack doesn't reuse processes, but you get the benefit of preforked processes. The reason why processes are not reused is that there are issues with caching of system preferences (and frameworks). Cache invalidation should be possible, and would |
| 09:37 | enable reuse of processes. | |
| 09:37 | ashimema: There are also a couple of questions regarding how to run it in multi-instance installations (the scripts here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack doesen't support that). The solution mentioned is also apache-centric at the moment. [At this point I kinda faded from the disussion, but someone else might fill you in ...] | |
| 09:38 | ashimema: I think there are also unsolved questions regarding migration to plack for existing installations ... or at least about the recommended path ... | |
| 09:38 | wahanui | okay, akafred. |
| 09:38 | cait | akafred++ |
| 09:40 | ashimema | cheers akafred.. |
| 09:40 | yeah, I've been tracking it closely.. there are at least three different thoughts on moving to plack (in terms of actualyl settitng it up,, using packages, multi-tenancy).. | |
| 09:41 | akafred | they are currently looking for volunteers to look at some of the core issues ... |
| 09:41 | ashimema | those ar ethe big questions I'm interested in.. was hoping they'd come out with it in the end of the chat with a definative path to follow ;) |
| 09:41 | interesting.. | |
| 09:41 | wahanui | i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 09:41 | ashimema | cheers |
| 09:42 | akafred | yep, they are still discussing ... hopefully someone else can fill #koha in on the action plan |
| 09:47 | clrh | nengard: hello, do you know how/if people use a glossary to translate from english ? |
| 09:47 | and where is this glossary ? | |
| 09:47 | magnuse | ashimema: https seems to be an issue in the plack discussion now |
| 09:47 | clrh | what are the practices indeed |
| 09:48 | nengard | clrh I don't understand the question. What are you translating? |
| 09:48 | clrh | I am translating in pootle the po files |
| 09:48 | cait | clrh: we don't... it seems poole has something called glossary - but i am not sure how that works |
| 09:48 | we = german translators as far as I know | |
| 09:48 | clrh | it is terminology but we have a 500 server error when we generate it |
| 09:48 | cait | clrh: maybe drop an email on the koha-translate list? |
| 09:48 | clrh | I was interested to know the practices of team work |
| 09:49 | ok cait | |
| 09:49 | cait | there is one for german... but i am not sure where this came from :) |
| 09:49 | clrh | it is to be sure everyone use the same word to translate "notice" or "item" or whatever special library word |
| 09:50 | cait | i think pootle might use it to make suggestions - maybe there is something in the pootle manual? |
| 09:50 | clrh | I ll have a look |
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| 09:53 | ashimema | magnuse.. are they talking plack behind apache/nginx... |
| 09:53 | if not.. that's the solution for https and serving of static content in a sensible way ;) | |
| 09:54 | akafred | clrh: Did you get cucumber installed? I have a procedure of sorts you can follow ... |
| 09:55 | clrh | akafred: yep I tried yesterday evening looking at tv ;) |
| 09:55 | gem install cucumber | |
| 09:55 | I read a little bit of documentation that's all, I'll try maybe more in the week | |
| 09:55 | akafred | Yeah, but you need a couple more things to do web-browser stuff |
| 09:57 | clrh: If you just want to play around with it a little you could try the virtual machine I used yesterday. I isolated it in a branch of our repo: https://github.com/digibib/ls.[…]st-only/README.md | |
| 09:58 | clrh | thanks akafred ! |
| 10:00 | akafred | clrh: If you don't want to go down the virtual machine route the steps to install the necessary tools on Ubuntu are here (written in something called "salt states", but it shouldn't be impossible to interpret them): https://github.com/digibib/ls.[…]salt/cucumber.sls |
| 10:02 | drojf | would someone in marseille be willing to share their microphone during dev talks/discussions so we can listen in? |
| 10:03 | ashimema | I was thinking similar drojf |
| 10:04 | wondered if there internet would be up to it.. | |
| 10:04 | akafred | The discussion just ended ... I think there well be an action plan written down somewhere ... |
| 10:05 | Joubu | dpavlin: yes, it's bug 11998 |
| 10:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11998 major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Patch doesn't apply , Syspref caching issues |
| 10:06 | tcohen | hi ashimema |
| 10:07 | ashimema | hi tcohen |
| 10:07 | tcohen | we just agreed on things to do to have plack support out of the box |
| 10:07 | i'll be working on the debian scripts needed for this | |
| 10:07 | ashimema | excellent.. :) |
| 10:07 | lets have that agreement published somewhere :) | |
| 10:07 | ;) | |
| 10:07 | so we are all singing off the same hymsheet | |
| 10:07 | tcohen | dpavlin will work on syspref cache invalidation |
| 10:08 | magnuse | dpavlin was taking notes, i think |
| 10:08 | tcohen | and jonathan will try to fix the issues with updatedatabase.pl on plack |
| 10:08 | morning magnuse | |
| 10:08 | magnuse | ¡hola tcohen! |
| 10:08 | tcohen | shall we get a pizza together anytime soon? |
| 10:08 | magnuse | pizza! |
| 10:08 | ashimema | :(.. I want pizza |
| 10:09 | magnuse | pizza lunch is on friday - i will miss that. so i'm up for pizza dinner any day! |
| 10:10 | ashimema | lol |
| 10:13 | cait | tested oe small patch |
| 10:13 | filed 2 new bugs... | |
| 10:13 | but hey... hte patch works! :) | |
| 10:14 | nengard | woo hoo |
| 10:16 | dpavlin | notes from plack discussion is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack |
| 10:16 | and remember, "man in plack" rimes with "man in black" -- conincidence? I don't think so! | |
| 10:16 | magnuse | cait: just don't do patches for the new bugs, so get the nso number down ;-) |
| 10:16 | cait | :P |
| 10:16 | magnuse | dpavlin++ |
| 10:18 | tcohen | dpavlin++ |
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| 10:19 | ashimema | dpavlin++ |
| 10:19 | * ashimema | goes to read it now |
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| 10:25 | magnuse | yay me - finally signed off my first patch for the hackfest |
| 10:37 | fridolin | Joubu: in sandfbox a perl module is missing |
| 10:37 | did you ask for integratio,n in commmunity repo ? | |
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| 10:39 | ashimema | which perl module fridolin... |
| 10:39 | ours are probabliy missing it too ;) | |
| 10:40 | Joubu | ashimema: no, they are not |
| 10:40 | fridolin | ashimema: PDF:fromHTML |
| 10:41 | but the patch is not in master yet | |
| 10:41 | ashimema | cheers both.. |
| 10:41 | fridolin | Bug 8107 |
| 10:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8107 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Disabled buttons not distinguishable from enabled buttons. |
| 10:41 | ashimema | I'm just checking our sandboxs are all up and running now.. |
| 10:41 | it's been a while since I've spent any real time on them ;) | |
| 10:46 | tcohen | dpavlin: we are not using it |
| 10:46 | we using the "bug number" | |
| 10:46 | *we are | |
| 10:52 | bag | ashimema: if you could get anyone to work on this http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7736 |
| 10:52 | huginn | 04Bug 7736: new feature, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Failed QA , Edifact QUOTE and ORDER functionality |
| 10:52 | bag | Basically I have tested all that and it works - just touch those things and it should be ready for QA and a bit easier in the QA stage :D |
| 10:53 | ashimema | colin is rebasing and fixing those issues now as it happens |
| 10:54 | bag | sweet :) |
| 10:55 | cait | :) |
| 11:00 | Joubu | akafred: did you see the docker presentation will planned at the same time of the rest api? |
| 11:00 | akafred | Hm... then something must have moved. |
| 11:01 | Joubu | do you agree to move it to 4pm or tomorrow? |
| 11:02 | akafred | 4 pm is ok with me, actually i thought that was what i had put in there. |
| 11:02 | But on the other hand, lots of meetings today, perhaps we should move it to tomorrow... | |
| 11:11 | tcohen | dpavlin: the port! how do we know the port! |
| 11:11 | matts | the vieux port ? |
| 11:12 | tcohen | matts: heh |
| 11:17 | matts | Joubu, prove t/db_dependent/Serials_2.t |
| 11:17 | Joubu | matts: All tests successful. |
| 11:21 | dpavlin | tcohen: port for plack? Shouldn't we use file sockets instead? |
| 11:22 | tcohen | dpavlin: not on wheeze I guess |
| 11:32 | ashimema | is it just me, or is there a bug in the sandboxes now.. |
| 11:32 | can anyone checkout master in a sandbox? | |
| 11:33 | i take it there's a talk on | |
| 11:40 | magnuse | ashimema: nope, but cheese lunch is approaching fast... |
| 11:40 | ashimema | indeed.. |
| 11:40 | magnuse | wow, bug 5010 is scary |
| 11:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Fix OPACBaseURL to include protocol |
| 11:40 | ashimema | I've got Joubu in pm now |
| 11:40 | we've found a bug ;) | |
| 11:40 | it is indeed magnuse | |
| 11:41 | 5010 that is | |
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| 11:58 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #81 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING) |
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| 12:27 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #81: NOW UNSTABLE in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.16.x_U14/81/ |
| 12:27 | Mason James: Adding release notes | |
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| 12:50 | akafred | khall, Joubu, fridolin, larryb and Alex – I am moving the "Koha in Docker"-session to tomorrow at 10 am - unless anyone objects :-) |
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| 13:23 | cait | ashimema? :) |
| 13:23 | atheia! | |
| 13:23 | where is oleonard? :) | |
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| 13:32 | druthb | cait? |
| 13:32 | wahanui | cait is from germany. Ask me about germany. |
| 13:32 | druthb | cait! |
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| 13:36 | clrh | cait is having a walk outside looking at "notre dame de la garde" I think ;) |
| 13:36 | cait | actually.. she is hiding in the office *hides* |
| 13:36 | druthb! | |
| 13:36 | druthb | no hiding! |
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| 13:36 | * druthb | grabs cait and drags her out where people can see and admire her. |
| 13:37 | cait | eeew |
| 13:37 | or eeek heh | |
| 13:38 | druthb | :P |
| 13:38 | our amazing cait should not hide! | |
| 13:38 | cait | hmpf. |
| 13:38 | ashimema | indeed. |
| 13:39 | druthb | You're outvoted, cait |
| 13:39 | cait | hmpf! |
| 13:40 | @later tell oleonard - could you please take a look at bug 13680 ? | |
| 13:40 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:40 | druthb | hmpfs back at cait. |
| 13:40 | cait | stealing my words again? :) |
| 13:41 | druthb | yep |
| 13:46 | cait | I should make you pay for licensing it... but on theother hand we are working with free software here... |
| 13:47 | ashimema | http://pbrd.co/1DORUxu |
| 13:48 | sna.gy doesn't work for me :( | |
| 13:49 | cait | saw it now |
| 13:49 | sooooo cute | |
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| 14:27 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #82 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING) |
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| 14:42 | * drojf | yawns |
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| 14:48 | * magnuse | waves randomly |
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| 14:48 | * drojf | feels waved at and waves back |
| 14:50 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 14:50 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 14:50 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.16.x_D7 build #81: FIXED in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_3.16.x_D7/81/ |
| 14:50 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: t/db_dependent/XISBN.t fails in DOM setup | |
| 14:50 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: (followup) skip tests that fail because of provider's error | |
| 14:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12782 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/XISBN.t should work on DOM too |
| 14:56 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #82: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.16.x_U14/82/ |
| 14:56 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: t/db_dependent/XISBN.t fails in DOM setup | |
| 14:56 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: (followup) skip tests that fail because of provider's error | |
| 14:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12782 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/XISBN.t should work on DOM too |
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| 15:25 | akafred | khall: Did you look at something like https://metacpan.org/pod/Raisin / https://github.com/khrt/Raisin ? Raisin supports http://swagger.io/ Any thoughts? |
| 15:27 | khall | akafred: I've looked into swagger a bit. I think any tool that keeps our api standardized is something we should looking into using. |
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| 15:39 | ashimema | I've played with swagger.. |
| 15:39 | tis cool | |
| 15:41 | indradg | hello #koha |
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| 15:51 | akafred | ashimema: did you use raisin? |
| 15:56 | cait | akafred: i think he ran away :) |
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| 16:12 | akafred | Joubu and JesseM : Cucumber in Perl? https://metacpan.org/pod/distr[…]cumber/README.pod |
| 16:12 | https://metacpan.org/pod/Test:[…]er::Manual::Steps | |
| 16:14 | JesseM | Thank you akafred |
| 16:15 | akafred | Not sure if it is mature or anything, but at least it exists. |
| 16:16 | dpavlin | we will have overview of taday's work in 15 minutes |
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| 16:19 | * codavid | fr |
| 16:19 | codavid | re |
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| 16:25 | akafred | huginn: @later tell larryb I mentioned measuring actual performance in the browser on every request, here is the browser spec that enables it: https://developer.mozilla.org/[…]Navigation_timing |
| 16:25 | huginn | akafred: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
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| 16:26 | akafred | @later tell larryb I mentioned measuring actual performance in the browser on every request, here is the browser spec that enables it: https://developer.mozilla.org/[…]Navigation_timing |
| 16:26 | huginn | akafred: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:28 | akafred | @later tell larryb There is a javascript library (boomerang.js) that makes sending the data back to the server easier ( http://yahoo.github.io/boomerang/doc/ ). In addition you need a script/service on the server that accepts the data. |
| 16:28 | huginn | akafred: The operation succeeded. |
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| 16:28 | vfernandes | hi :) |
| 16:29 | one question: how i can improve my catalog searches speed? | |
| 16:29 | they're taking about 5/6s to search in 140k records | |
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| 16:29 | vfernandes | is this normal? |
| 16:30 | akafred | @later tell larryb Using this you can actually measure the user experienced time from a user clicks a link until the next page is ready for interaction. That is pretty cool ... |
| 16:30 | huginn | akafred: The operation succeeded. |
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| 16:48 | reiveune | bye |
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| 18:26 | charles | hi everybody |
| 18:26 | anybody familiar with C4::Reserve? | |
| 18:29 | I read the _FixPriority method after profiling the script ./misc/cronjobs/holds/cancel_expired_holds.pl, and I couldn't believe the time spent updating rows in the database | |
| 18:30 | is there a bug filed in bugzilla about the humongous amount of time wasted in that library? | |
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| 18:53 | drojf | hello again |
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| 19:20 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.18.4 is released! Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org | Code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Happy Birthday cait_| Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
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| 20:03 | wizzyrea | hi |
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| 20:06 | * wnickc | waves |
| 20:07 | * mveron | waves... |
| 20:07 | mveron | @wunder allschwil |
| 20:07 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 7.0°C (9:00 PM CET on March 03, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
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| 21:41 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
| 21:41 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on March 04, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | summer came late this year. |
| 21:44 | pianohacker | :( there's been a winter storm warning in colorado for the past month almost... |
| 21:44 | hi wizzyrea | |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | hiya |
| 21:47 | eythian | hi |
| 21:47 | wahanui | hey, eythian |
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| 21:52 | eythian | http://www.wired.com/2015/03/stump-magic/ <-- this is excellent |
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| 22:02 | * cait1 | waves |
| 22:03 | eythian | hi cait1 |
| 22:04 | cait1 | hi eythian |
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| 22:35 | dcook | eythian: I'm not done reading yet, but that's magic |
| 22:35 | eythian | yes, it is :) |
| 22:35 | dcook | "Because I was a first-timer, they even threw in an extra joint, a brownie bite, and a sample vial of hash oil. America! I collected the weed and retreated back inside." |
| 22:37 | I have a friend who needed to get some clothing shopping done but didn't have the time to do it. This would've been perfect for her. | |
| 22:38 | I wonder if I actually saw a reference when I was looking things up for her that day.. | |
| 22:38 | She's in Canada though. The only magical delivery is from Santa there. | |
| 22:39 | eythian | heh |
| 22:39 | there are services around that ship you clothes and things | |
| 22:39 | a reasonable amount of people just buy them online these days, too | |
| 22:40 | dcook | Yeah, but she needed same night delivery |
| 22:40 | eythian | oh ah |
| 22:40 | dcook | Which Magic seems like it could do |
| 22:40 | yeah when I was in North America, I bought all my shoes online | |
| 22:40 | I measured my feet, they posted their measurements, it was great | |
| 22:41 | Shoes in Australia are rather expensive and shipping from overseas isn't always an affordable option :/ | |
| 22:41 | Well, it's affordable, but not cost effective. | |
| 22:45 | eythian | I think someone was telling me about a good online shoe place here. I should figure out what it was. |
| 22:48 | dcook | I need to figure out one of those sometime soon. I've beaten my hikers all to hell. |
| 22:49 | To be fair, they did make it through an 18km hike on Crete, but... | |
| 22:49 | I like my hikers to last a bit longer than 6 months | |
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| 23:27 | pianohacker | dcook: What was the place you got your shoes from? I'm ... blessed with large, strange-shaped feet and that sounds excellent |
| 23:41 | dcook | I'd just go on Amazon, but it was usually through one of the shops on there which are just based in America |
| 23:41 | I have pretty standard feet though I think? | |
| 23:49 | pianohacker | hrm, okay |
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| 23:56 | dcook | pianohacker: what size are your feet? |
| 23:57 | Mine are about 11 or 12, and... I was just about to measure in centimeters, but I'm wearing boots today and there is no way I'm unlacing my boots just to measure my feet.. | |
| 23:57 | pianohacker | dcook: 13 wide (in US) |
| 23:57 | dcook | Dang, that does sound like it would be hard |
| 23:57 | I have a friend with 14 wide, and I'm not sure how he does it | |
| 23:58 | Actually, him and everyone I know with 14+ feet might just get custom shoes done.. | |
| 23:58 | Or they just buy really fancy shoes as they always look great |
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