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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:01 | tcohen | do i make any sense? |
| 00:05 | dcook | Well, that's not a multi-elementset really |
| 00:06 | As zebra::facet is the element | |
| 00:06 | But yeah, I getcha | |
| 00:07 | Makes you wonder what performance would be like to do each facet query separately.. | |
| 00:07 | What happens if one of those facet indexes doens't have anything in it? | |
| 00:07 | Does it take down the whole query? | |
| 00:07 | * dcook | seems to recall that it might |
| 00:07 | dcook | Also this tokenization thing is driving me a bit bonkers |
| 00:08 | tcohen | we currently loop on the defined facet indexes |
| 00:08 | and what i was saying is what you wrote | |
| 00:08 | i'm looking at zebra's code | |
| 00:08 | to make it skip the one that is not there, instead of aborting | |
| 00:14 | dcook | Mm, that would be great |
| 00:14 | And reasonable :) | |
| 00:18 | NateC joined #koha | |
| 00:18 | dcook | Hmm... some of the rules that we're using in words-icu.xml don't do what we think they do, me thinks |
| 00:25 | tcohen | which is the fastest Perl XML parser? |
| 00:25 | eythian | probably something with -xs in the name |
| 00:25 | though, I think Lib::XML uses libxml anyway | |
| 00:26 | XML::LibXML rather | |
| 00:26 | Dyrcona | XML::LibXML is the fastest one that I've used. |
| 00:26 | dcook | Yeah I think XML::LibXML alreayd uses libxml |
| 00:26 | Dyrcona | It does. |
| 00:29 | tcohen | thanks, will give it a try |
| 00:29 | night everyone | |
| 00:37 | dcook | night tcohen |
| 00:37 | eythian | bye |
| 00:54 | rocio left #koha | |
| 00:57 | dcook | This guide doesn't seem to be totally right... http://userguide.icu-project.o[…]rms/general/rules |
| 00:57 | "A left curly brace marks the start of a context rule." | |
| 00:57 | Yet, they show a right curly brace. | |
| 00:58 | This is kind of neat though: http://demo.icu-project.org/icu-bin/translit | |
| 01:00 | eythian | wahanui: sneak peak is a stealthy mountain |
| 01:00 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 01:03 | dcook | Also: <transliterate rule="[:Number:] { '-' > '' "/> doesn't replace - with nothing, it replaces - with a ' |
| 01:04 | Which gets munched up by " <transform rule="[[:WhiteSpace:][:Punctuation:]] Remove"/>" later on anyway though | |
| 02:03 | @later tell cait I might have some ideas about why ICU is not doing nice things with parentheses... | |
| 02:03 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:03 | dcook | Wow... when did it become afternoon? Yikes... |
| 02:07 | eythian | three hours ago |
| 02:09 | dcook | Yeah, the light still looks like morning light |
| 02:10 | :S | |
| 02:10 | This Zebra thing is a bit annoying | |
| 02:10 | I've learned all the things, and I'm convinced that it must be a bug | |
| 02:10 | tcohen has had good luck contacting Indexdata, but I don't know if anyone else ever has... | |
| 02:11 | Of course, it doesn't affect people using the Koha packages, since it uses an older version of Zebra | |
| 02:11 | So I guess that's good | |
| 02:11 | But what a pain | |
| 02:11 | wahanui | rumour has it a pain is when you find all kind of regressions |
| 02:17 | eythian | dcook: for now, when jessie comes out it'll be the newer version |
| 02:17 | dcook | Mmm, right. I was thinking about that this morning. |
| 02:18 | That could be bad | |
| 02:18 | eythian | yeah |
| 02:18 | solvable, but very annoying | |
| 02:18 | dcook | How is it solvable? |
| 02:19 | eythian | require people to use indexdata, or something like that. |
| 02:19 | well | |
| 02:19 | assuming they fix it | |
| 02:19 | dcook | Yeah, assuming they fix it |
| 02:19 | eythian | I was mostly thinking of the case of them fixing it and debian not updating. |
| 02:19 | dcook | Would that work after installing Zebra from Debian first though? |
| 02:19 | eythian | probably |
| 02:19 | dcook | Same |
| 02:19 | Hmm | |
| 02:19 | I guess so eh | |
| 02:20 | I mean... | |
| 02:20 | I wonder what the package name is.. | |
| 02:20 | I think it's the same? | |
| 02:20 | eythian | What would be best (from my pov) would be to figure it out with indexdata asap, and report a bug in debian which may cause it to get updated before the release. |
| 02:20 | I think so | |
| 02:20 | * dcook | gives thumbs up |
| 02:21 | dcook | Do you have Koha on any Ubuntu 14.10 installs? |
| 02:21 | 14.04 is still using Zebra 2.0.44 | |
| 02:21 | I suppose I could just look this up too.. | |
| 02:21 | Is 14.10 Vivid? | |
| 02:21 | 2.0.59 :/ | |
| 02:22 | No, Vivid is the one after.. | |
| 02:22 | 14.10... Utopic... still on 2.0.44 | |
| 02:23 | Although April 2015 for 15.04... that's not far away | |
| 02:23 | Yeah, Jessie also uses 2.0.59 | |
| 02:24 | eythian | heh, my only 14.10 install is for the ES demo |
| 02:24 | so not a useful test | |
| 02:24 | dcook | Already looked it up anyway. It should be fine :) |
| 02:24 | :p | |
| 02:24 | @later tell tcohen How did you go about contacting Indexdata about the facets? Did you email Adam directly? | |
| 02:24 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:31 | dcook | I suppose it still only affects ICU users... |
| 02:31 | I think we only have one ICU install | |
| 02:31 | Almost everyone else is on CHR | |
| 02:34 | eythian | doesn't ID have a mailing list or something? |
| 02:35 | dcook | Yeah, they have heaps |
| 02:36 | I signed up for one but haven't been confirmed yet | |
| 02:36 | I might be able to just send to it, but... | |
| 02:36 | eythian | dcook: do you know anything about tweaking relevancy rankings in zebra, e.g. to make the title more important? |
| 02:36 | dcook | Yep |
| 02:37 | eythian | any pointers? |
| 02:37 | dcook | Sure :) |
| 02:37 | I'll get a link | |
| 02:37 | You have to have QueryWeightedFields on | |
| 02:37 | And it has to be working, so I think QueryAutoTruncate must be off.. | |
| 02:37 | Balls... at least I used to know this | |
| 02:37 | Give me a sec | |
| 02:38 | Ah, yeah, right | |
| 02:38 | Ok | |
| 02:38 | So go to "_build_weighted_query" | |
| 02:38 | eythian | ta |
| 02:38 | dcook | There are rankings for "Title-cover", "ti,ext" and "ti,phr" |
| 02:39 | "r1", "r2", "r3" respectively | |
| 02:39 | So then go to "ccl.properties" | |
| 02:39 | And just increase the values for those | |
| 02:39 | r1 9=32 | |
| 02:39 | r2 9=28 | |
| 02:39 | r3 9=26 | |
| 02:40 | "9" is a special Zebra type | |
| 02:40 | http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]ymodel-zebra.html | |
| 02:40 | So "9=30" is a weight of 30, "9=20" is a rank of 20, and so on | |
| 02:40 | eythian | I see |
| 02:41 | so it might be enough for them to turn on QueryWeightedFields | |
| 02:41 | dcook | Possibly |
| 02:41 | Do their search results come back in biblionumber order? | |
| 02:43 | Hmm, I might be looking at an old version of Search.pm... | |
| 02:43 | It might not just be QueryAutoTruncate | |
| 02:43 | I think it's anytime there is truncation | |
| 02:43 | It will turn off QueryWeightedFields | |
| 02:43 | :D | |
| 02:45 | Now what was I doing... | |
| 03:05 | That moment when you go to paste something into a commit message, and you have absolutely no idea where the text came from... | |
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| 03:44 | mtj | hey peeps, has GRS1 been finalyl removed from koha? |
| 03:47 | eythian | I don't think so |
| 03:47 | I think it's planned though | |
| 03:48 | mtj | i see the about.pl warnings for GRS. in 3.18.x |
| 03:49 | so..perhaps 3.20 might be when GRS gets finally chopped | |
| 03:50 | all good, i think i answered my own question :) | |
| 04:01 | dcook | Yeah, I think it's scheduled for departure, but that's about it |
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| 04:23 | dcook | Hmm... do Americans write "lightsaber" or "lightsabre"? |
| 04:24 | eythian | Probably the former |
| 04:24 | dcook | Probably |
| 04:24 | Also http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=5565 | |
| 04:24 | I mean... | |
| 04:24 | Don't actually read it | |
| 04:25 | * dcook | doesn't actually want to talk about star wars |
| 04:25 | dcook | Well, maybe star wars but not Star Wars |
| 04:26 | Oh goody, my db is loaded | |
| 04:36 | Hmm bug 13242 is still causing this guy problems.. | |
| 04:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13242 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Slow checkin for patrons restricted indefinitely |
| 04:39 | dcook | This looks like a job for Devel::NYTProf... |
| 04:41 | nytprof? | |
| 04:41 | wahanui | rumour has it nytprof is just amazing |
| 04:41 | dcook | nytprof? |
| 04:41 | wahanui | nytprof is, like, just amazing |
| 04:41 | dcook | nytprof? |
| 04:41 | wahanui | nytprof is just amazing |
| 04:41 | dcook | nytprof is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]th_Devel::NYTProf |
| 04:41 | nytprof? | |
| 04:41 | wahanui | somebody said nytprof was just amazing |
| 04:41 | dcook | nytprof? |
| 04:41 | wahanui | nytprof is probably just amazing |
| 04:41 | dcook | nytprof? |
| 04:41 | wahanui | nytprof is just amazing |
| 04:41 | dcook | nytprof is also http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]th_Devel::NYTProf |
| 04:41 | wahanui | okay, dcook. |
| 04:41 | dcook | nytprof? |
| 04:41 | wahanui | i heard nytprof was just amazing |
| 04:41 | dcook | nytprof? |
| 04:41 | wahanui | rumour has it nytprof is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]th_Devel::NYTProf |
| 04:53 | dcook | Now to interpret the results.. |
| 04:57 | Ahhh, because I missed part of the fix | |
| 05:05 | Huzzah | |
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| 06:59 | cait | good morning #koha |
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| 07:16 | rangi | evening |
| 07:28 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:31 | starts the day by writing a new contract | |
| 07:43 | libland | /me nods |
| 07:43 | ops hehe | |
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| 07:43 | libland | hmm not used to Irssi |
| 07:43 | Anyway, hey all | |
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| 07:45 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:48 | Viktor joined #koha | |
| 07:48 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #43 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 07:48 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 07:48 | magnuse | hiya libland paul_p reiveune Viktor drojf |
| 07:49 | sophie_m joined #koha | |
| 07:49 | sophie_m | hello #koha |
| 07:49 | libland | hey sophie_m |
| 07:49 | wahanui | i guess sophie_m is looking for a .mrc file to import into the catalog |
| 07:49 | Viktor | Hi magnuse and #koha |
| 07:49 | sophie_m | thanx wahanui, I've got plenty ;) |
| 07:50 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 07:50 | hei magnuse | |
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| 08:02 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 08:02 | libland | hey alex_a |
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| 08:04 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
| 08:07 | libland joined #koha | |
| 08:07 | libland | there we go |
| 08:12 | * libland | is excited - setting up a Koha for the first time in this very moment. |
| 08:13 | libland | I've been tasked to 'get to know Koha'. :) |
| 08:14 | pleasant task, I believe. | |
| 08:14 | kivilahtio | libland: you bet |
| 08:14 | libland: Koha is so cool | |
| 08:14 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]eveloper_handbook | |
| 08:15 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines | |
| 08:15 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration | |
| 08:15 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git | |
| 08:15 | libland | Yes, this will bring so many good things! |
| 08:15 | brilliance - thanks kivilahtio | |
| 08:15 | kivilahtio | http://gitimmersion.com/ |
| 08:15 | http://schema.koha-community.org/ | |
| 08:15 | wahanui | http://schema.koha-community.org/ are you looking here? |
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| 08:15 | kivilahtio | http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ |
| 08:15 | wahanui | http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ are the better stats to optimise |
| 08:16 | kivilahtio | http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 08:16 | http://perldoc.koha-community.org/ | |
| 08:16 | magnuse | libland: how are you installing? packages? |
| 08:16 | kivilahtio | http://komodoide.com/ or Eclipse EPIC are my weapons of choice |
| 08:16 | pick your poison | |
| 08:16 | those are what I mostly need for my day-to-day stuff | |
| 08:17 | * libland | nods |
| 08:17 | kivilahtio | http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/ |
| 08:17 | have fun! | |
| 08:17 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Vim |
| 08:17 | libland | kivilahtio: Thanks a lot! |
| 08:17 | kivilahtio | should get you started |
| 08:17 | libland | I love Vim. |
| 08:17 | ;) | |
| 08:17 | kivilahtio | you can use Vim |
| 08:17 | rangi | also https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox |
| 08:17 | kivilahtio | actually... funny enough Vim is the tool-of-choice fior the LPI |
| 08:18 | libland | I guess I'll have to 'get to know' Perl as well in this process |
| 08:18 | rangi | there are some handy vim config tips on that page, that make editing perl much easier |
| 08:18 | libland | rangi: Wonderful! |
| 08:19 | kivilahtio | Also when i did my technology push for Vim, I used a mod-package for Vim. google for "spf13 vim" |
| 08:19 | has a ton of stuff for Vim. Too bad I never learned to like Vim, not even the graphical version. Just doesn't beat a proper IDE. | |
| 08:20 | libland | I've been using Vim with Python mainly |
| 08:20 | I tried to switch to SublimeText, but had to revert back to Vim. | |
| 08:21 | Guess it's because Vim does things it's own ways all the way - and when you get used to that... | |
| 08:21 | kivilahtio | libland: I think so |
| 08:21 | libland | it's hard to switch |
| 08:22 | rangi | once you learn the shortcuts, there's nothing faster |
| 08:22 | kivilahtio | rangi: I agree :) |
| 08:22 | libland | rangi: Aye, that's how it is. |
| 08:22 | rangi | the main reason i use it, is cos its on all the servers |
| 08:22 | kivilahtio | yeah, nano is a bit clumsy |
| 08:22 | libland | Started to use Vim to be able to work remotely in commandline |
| 08:22 | kivilahtio | rangi: I just push from my Dev-environment to the servers the code changes |
| 08:23 | rangi: I have a centralized vaersion which is replicated to all the shards | |
| 08:23 | if i make changes downstream and forget about that, then overwrite with upstream version.... bad things happen... | |
| 08:23 | rangi | yep, we do that ... well we roll packages and update them, for code changes |
| 08:24 | but sometimes you need to edit a config file or 2 | |
| 08:24 | kivilahtio | i use nano, shoot me |
| 08:24 | rangi | our sysadmins would :) |
| 08:24 | well, you wouldn't be able to, nano is purged on the servers | |
| 08:24 | :) | |
| 08:25 | kivilahtio | luckily I know JUST enough Vi |
| 08:26 | libland | Oh, this IS exciting: The library I work on is seriously looking into switching the expensive crap system for Koha. |
| 08:27 | but, guess it won't be a easy road to get there | |
| 08:27 | uh, sorry. English not my native. | |
| 08:28 | magnuse | yay for getting rid of expensive crap! :-) |
| 08:28 | libland | Indeed |
| 08:28 | rangi | you are from sweden? |
| 08:29 | libland | Yes. |
| 08:29 | kivilahtio | we got an ultimatum from our expensive crap proveder to stop acessing their database |
| 08:29 | to migrate another system to our Koha | |
| 08:29 | rangi | libland: http://www.sub.su.se/home/news[…]ary-chooses-koha/ |
| 08:29 | ammo | |
| 08:29 | kivilahtio | ammo? |
| 08:29 | * libland | nods |
| 08:30 | libland | that's part of the reason I'm in here :) |
| 08:30 | rangi | kivilahtio: ammo to convince the powers to be, its always easier to not be the first :) |
| 08:30 | kivilahtio | rangi: tell me about it |
| 08:30 | rangi: but we broke the ice | |
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| 08:30 | libland | Gotta go - but bbl! |
| 08:30 | rangi | cya later libland |
| 08:30 | libland | nice to meet you all |
| 08:31 | kivilahtio | rangi: and we are hardly hte first. We always tell that "there are 3000 libraries worldwide using Koha" |
| 08:31 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:31 | kivilahtio | I just heard it on the IRC :) |
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| 08:31 | kivilahtio | gaetan_B: hi |
| 08:31 | wahanui | kia ora, kivilahtio |
| 08:31 | rangi | theres about 8000 now |
| 08:31 | kivilahtio | proooooo |
| 08:31 | rangi | theres 2000 just in turkey and argentina alone |
| 08:31 | kivilahtio | rangi: how do you know? |
| 08:31 | rangi | i know there are 3000ish in libwebcats |
| 08:31 | kivilahtio | rangi: why I don't see them contributing to the master branch? |
| 08:32 | rangi | http://www.librarytechnology.org/libwebcats/ |
| 08:32 | kivilahtio | rangi: or would it be even a good thing :) |
| 08:32 | rangi | and that doesnt include any of the turkish, and most of the argentinian ones |
| 08:32 | kivilahtio | rangi: I fear htere are so many organisations having so different needs that Koha might end up as an onmanageable mess |
| 08:32 | luckily we have only improvements, not mess :) | |
| 08:33 | rangi | thats why we have qa teams :) |
| 08:33 | we've made it 15 years now :) | |
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| 08:34 | * rangi | gets to legitimately claim to doing the first koha library :-) |
| 08:35 | kivilahtio | rangi: we love you |
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| 08:38 | Joubu | hello |
| 08:38 | wahanui | hola, Joubu |
| 08:39 | rangi | hi Joubu |
| 08:39 | Joubu | I arrive during a declaration of love |
| 08:39 | rangi | heh |
| 08:41 | ashimema | monring #koha |
| 08:42 | morning.. even | |
| 08:43 | your up late aint you rangi | |
| 08:45 | rangi | its not quite 10pm yet |
| 08:46 | trying to finish off some stuff while its quiet and the kids are asleep | |
| 08:46 | ashimema | earlier than I thought then.. don't often see you in here this sort of time 'tis all.. |
| 08:47 | I'll leave you to it then as your busy.. have a good night :) | |
| 08:47 | rangi | nope |
| 08:47 | usually i try and log off in the evenings :) | |
| 09:03 | @wunder nzwn | |
| 09:03 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (9:30 PM NZDT on February 04, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:09 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 09:09 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0°C (9:20 AM CET on February 04, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -18.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:09 | magnuse | f'ing windchill |
| 09:09 | @wunder marseille | |
| 09:09 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 3.3°C (9:59 AM CET on February 04, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.54 in 1000 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:10 | magnuse | hm Saint Victoret, France != marseille |
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| 09:17 | libland | Ok then, let's do this. |
| 09:24 | * magnuse | cheers libland on from norway |
| 09:25 | * libland | waves at magnuse from a distant part of Sweden, 'Gotland'. |
| 09:25 | Joubu | magnuse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Victoret it looks close to Marseille :) |
| 09:26 | drojf | koha is booming in sweden now? :) |
| 09:27 | libland | drojf: Certainly seems like it! |
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| 09:29 | drojf | libland: excellent! |
| 09:30 | magnuse | yeah, lots of koha action in sweden :-) |
| 09:31 | Joubu: yeah, not too far | |
| 09:31 | * otuoma | slaps chris_n around a bit with a large fishbot |
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| 09:34 | Joubu | Does someone know if tcohen has found a solution for the zebra facets perf? |
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| 09:39 | Otuoma | Hello, my koha installation downloads a PL file whenever I try to access either the opac or intranet. It is running on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and the error logs in /var/log/koha/ all seem to be empty. Kindly assist a brother |
| 09:41 | rangi | anhttp://wiki.koha-community.org[…]hooting_Ubuntu_14.04 |
| 09:41 | hmm | |
| 09:41 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]hooting_Ubuntu_14.04 | |
| 09:41 | try that | |
| 09:41 | the 3rd thing in that troubleshooting section is what you need to do | |
| 09:42 | Joubu: i think he got distracted by the fact that facets dont work at all in zebra 2.0.59 | |
| 09:43 | Joubu | rangi: ok thanks. He pm me "Set FacetMaxCount to 10" |
| 09:43 | but this pref is not used for facets retrieved from zebra | |
| 09:44 | Otuoma | <@rangi> It works like a charm. THANKS A LOT. |
| 09:44 | rangi | Joubu: when it comes to facets ... this is me http://ranginui.tumblr.com/post/109928443648 |
| 09:45 | Joubu | it's me when it's zebra related... |
| 09:49 | ha no, the pref is used! | |
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| 09:56 | Joubu | it comes from ZOOM::Record->raw, 2 or 3 sec is spent (per faceted index!) in it |
| 09:57 | rangi | ahh |
| 09:57 | so not zebra itself | |
| 09:58 | it usually isnt, zebra would be awesome if it was documented .. all our problems come from having no idea how to use it properly | |
| 09:58 | Joubu | no, it seems to come from the line my $facet = $rs->record( 0 )->raw; in C4::Search::_get_facet_from_result_set |
| 09:58 | rangi | right |
| 10:00 | so thats MARC::Record | |
| 10:00 | hmm no | |
| 10:00 | it should be returning xml | |
| 10:02 | * Joubu | is lost in Net::Z3950::ZOOM |
| 10:02 | * magnuse | gets ready to assemble a rescue squad |
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| 10:03 | Joubu | rangi: yes, $facet is a xml string, and quite light, only 20 lines |
| 10:07 | rangi | i wonder if its worth trying thi |
| 10:07 | s | |
| 10:07 | The record() method returns a ZOOM::Record object representing a record from result-set, whose position is indicated by the argument passed in. This is a zero-based index, so that legitimate values range from zero to $rs->size()-1. | |
| 10:07 | The record_immediate() API is identical, but it never invokes a network operation, merely returning the record from the ResultSet's cache if it's already there, or an undefined value otherwise. So if you use this method, you must always check the return value. | |
| 10:08 | so $facet = $rs->record_immediate(0)->raw; | |
| 10:09 | since we are doing | |
| 10:09 | return if !defined $facet; | |
| 10:11 | Joubu | $rs->record_immediate(0) returns undef |
| 10:11 | rangi | darn |
| 10:11 | does it at least do it fast? :) | |
| 10:12 | Joubu | yep |
| 10:16 | rangi | so yeah that does seem to suggest its the ->raw bit that is the slow bit |
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| 10:16 | Joubu | rangi: no, it's def the ->record |
| 10:16 | (I split the ligne my $record = $rs->record; my $facet = $record->raw; with a check point time between, and the 3 sec is spent in ->record) | |
| 10:17 | rangi | ah right |
| 10:18 | * rangi | has to go to sleep, good luck finding it in the maze of perl and C |
| 10:18 | Joubu | night rangi! |
| 10:18 | cait | hi libland :) |
| 10:18 | oh... scrolling broken again. | |
| 10:20 | night rangi... :) | |
| 10:21 | @wunder Reutlingen | |
| 10:21 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Roemerschanze, Reutlingen, Germany is -4.9°C (11:21 AM CET on February 04, 2015). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:23 | kivilahtio | All you facet-builders. I've got one word for you... Elastic :) |
| 10:28 | Joubu | hum, you need more words to integrate it into Koha ;) |
| 10:30 | magnuse | a section detailing config variables that could/should be added to koha-conf.xml might be a nice addition for future elease notes |
| 10:36 | kivilahtio | Joubu: touché :D |
| 10:37 | Joubu | any zebra/zoom export around? |
| 10:39 | $rs->size; returns the number of results, so if you search for "d", it's 972k, if I search for "temps modernes", it returns 97 | |
| 10:40 | in the first case, the max time spent in the calculation facet sub is 3 sec, in the second case, it's 1.27 | |
| 10:41 | which is logical, I think | |
| 10:41 | I should try to use yaz-client | |
| 10:48 | 1.4sec with yaz-client... | |
| 10:48 | looks like 1M records is a little bit to much | |
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| 11:09 | cait | Joubu++ :) |
| 11:09 | hey dro | |
| 11:09 | was going to say hi to drojf...b ut he left. need new glasses i guess. | |
| 11:10 | tcohen | morning |
| 11:11 | @later tell dcook I wrote to infolists.indexdata.dk, Adam and Mike answered alternatively |
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| 11:11 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:14 | Joubu | hi tcohen: I have just finished to fill a bug (bug 13665) with what I did this morning |
| 11:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13665 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from zebra is slow |
| 11:15 | cait | morning tcohen |
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| 11:16 | khall | mornin #koha! |
| 11:16 | libland | hello khall |
| 11:19 | cait | libland: you are from sweden? |
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| 11:28 | khall | mornin libland! |
| 11:28 | mornin cait! | |
| 11:30 | cait | morning khall :) |
| 11:30 | libland | cait: Yes, I am. |
| 11:30 | cait | nice :) |
| 11:30 | are you from the uni? | |
| 11:31 | ah, gotland, sorry, getting confused today | |
| 11:31 | libland | hehe no worries |
| 11:32 | Though, the library I work at is 50% uni lib (Uppsala) | |
| 11:33 | cait | :) |
| 11:34 | running off to lunch now - cya around | |
| 11:34 | libland | cya! |
| 11:41 | gaetan_B | lots of scandinavian interest in Koha lately, this is nice :) |
| 12:00 | magnuse | it's kinda starting to take off, yeah |
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| 12:15 | tcohen | morning, again |
| 12:15 | Joubu: have you seen Template::Plugin::URL, we could use it for safely building URLs | |
| 12:16 | Joubu | tcohen: yes, but we need to change all urls in the code |
| 12:16 | tcohen | =D |
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| 12:21 | tcohen | Joubu: I'm loading a 1.5M to try to reproduce |
| 12:21 | i've seen that linear time-size relation regarding the facet size | |
| 12:22 | Joubu | tcohen: do you know if there is a way to retrieve all facets with one query? |
| 12:22 | tcohen | i talked about that last night |
| 12:22 | we need to patch zebra | |
| 12:22 | it doesn't seem difficult | |
| 12:22 | i've been playing last night | |
| 12:22 | but didn't manage to compile it :-D | |
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| 12:25 | tcohen | Joubu: try elem zebra::facet::au:0:20,se:0:20,su:0:20 |
| 12:25 | you will get the three requested facets values | |
| 12:26 | but it will completely fail if one of those isn't initialized | |
| 12:26 | ^that's the problem | |
| 12:26 | jcamins suggested me to try indexing a "ghost" record with all facets | |
| 12:26 | i left it on the TODO area | |
| 12:27 | Joubu | Not sure to understand what is the difference with the current code |
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| 12:28 | Joubu | _get_facets_from_zebra loops on the $facets_loop |
| 12:28 | we just have to construct the facet_element in _get_facets_from_zebra and don't loop on facets | |
| 12:29 | tcohen | Joubu: that'd be awesome, but zebra returns an error if one of those facets is not already populated on its db |
| 12:30 | (i.e. is not initialized) | |
| 12:31 | Joubu | tcohen: isn't it what we already do? |
| 12:31 | tcohen | idiomatic issues i think, let me re-read |
| 12:33 | Joubu: you mean like building elem zebra::facet::au:0:20,se:0:20,su:0:20... and call it only once? | |
| 12:34 | Joubu | no, that what I would like to do |
| 12:34 | atm, we set elem zebra::facet::IDX:0:20 | |
| 12:35 | but what's happen if the IDX does not exist? | |
| 12:35 | we don't check if it exists in the zebra index | |
| 12:38 | tcohen | yes, we don't |
| 12:39 | we just skip the zero-results query | |
| 12:39 | which is, I think, ok | |
| 12:40 | what we WANT to do is to build a single elementSet with all defined facets (calculated in runtime) | |
| 12:40 | like zebra::facet::au:0:20,se:0:20,su:0:20... | |
| 12:40 | and have Zebra return all of them, wheter there's one that doesn't have data | |
| 12:40 | or not | |
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| 12:44 | magnuse | Viktor and libland - have you two met? |
| 12:45 | Viktor | Not quite sure - Gotland? |
| 12:45 | magnuse | sounds like it |
| 12:45 | wahanui | somebody said sounds like it was beer o'clock for you dcook? ;) |
| 12:46 | Viktor | libland - Nice to see other swedes here :) Viktor Sarge over here that works at project manager for Halland (mostly Hylte) and do some smaller coding tasks. |
| 12:48 | Better coders than me: Is the file ending .tmpl finally deprecated now? I had to change an old patch to use .tt to get it working again. | |
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| 12:49 | Joubu | Viktor: yes .tmpl for html::template, .tt for template::toolkit |
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| 12:53 | Viktor | Thanks Joubu! I thought it was weird when I discovered we were using template::toolkit but things were still named .tmpl and translated into .tt somewhere along the line. |
| 12:55 | Joubu | Viktor: it should be fixed on 3.18 |
| 12:58 | Viktor | Joubu: Ah so that's why I had to use the sane file ending :) Good. |
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| 13:29 | cait | Joubu: do you know if pending_offline_operations gets emptied out when the operations are no longer pending? |
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| 13:36 | * tcohen | thinks Joubu is having lunch |
| 13:39 | cait | probably |
| 13:39 | setting up a test | |
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| 14:12 | Joubu | cait: I don't know |
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| 15:03 | cait | it#s ok, i found it out |
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| 15:43 | cait | deleted after processing them |
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| 15:54 | cait | @later tell drojf ping me |
| 15:54 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:05 | cait | hm is bugzilla dead? |
| 16:21 | seems ok now | |
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| 16:47 | tcohen | cait: I think I busted my ubuntu |
| 16:48 | Dyrcona | tcohen: You sure your Ubuntu didn't bust itself? ;) |
| 16:48 | * Dyrcona | commiserates. |
| 16:48 | tcohen | mysql started raising errors |
| 16:48 | i think it is the hard drive | |
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| 17:27 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 17:27 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:47 | rsz_ | hi, I have done sudo apt-get install koha-common (from http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]buntu_-_packages), I need to point this koha installation(koha-machine) to a pre-existing DB (mysql-machine)(with koha tables setup done), how to proceed? |
| 17:48 | the problem is my /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf file is not existing, do I create it? | |
| 17:48 | so how would the koha installation know the mysql server is at a differnt ip ? | |
| 17:49 | I have not installed mysql-server on koha-machine yet.. is it required.. if the db is elsewhere, then how would koha-common.cnf be generated? | |
| 17:49 | tcohen | rsz_: create it |
| 17:50 | rsz_ | and *not* install mysql-server too ?? |
| 17:50 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "rsz_: like this" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/397 |
| 17:51 | rsz_ | I have the format for koha-common.cnf, just do not want to mess this fresh install! :-) |
| 17:51 | tcohen | you wont |
| 17:51 | also | |
| 17:51 | set the instance parameters in /etc/koha/passwd | |
| 17:52 | rsz_ | I proceed without installing mysql-server, because I assume in my last attempt, mysql-server created these files! |
| 17:52 | tcohen | instance_name:db_user:db_passwd:db_name |
| 17:52 | rsz_ | I am yet to execute koha-create --request-db <library? |
| 17:52 | tcohen | the workflow for using koha with an external db server is broken, you need to workaround it |
| 17:52 | rsz_ | I am yet to execute koha-create --request-db <library> |
| 17:53 | tcohen | exactly |
| 17:53 | rsz_ | I am trying to overcome the slow response time as of now.. |
| 17:53 | tcohen | we should just use koha-create --use-db --db-host --db-user, etc, right? :-) |
| 17:54 | rsz_ | I have had success with --request-db in last attempt, but need to redo these steps for colocated servers! :-) |
| 17:55 | tcohen | fill koha-common.cnf, koha/passwd and create your instances with --request-db |
| 17:55 | rsz_ | but reinstalling koha is a bit difficult untill you discover apt-get purge! :-) |
| 17:55 | tcohen | broken workflow, but works |
| 17:55 | rsz_ | aye aye captain! :-) |
| 17:55 | tcohen | good luck \o |
| 17:55 | rsz_ | thanks :-) |
| 17:56 | tcohen | u r welcome, I'll be around anyway |
| 17:58 | rsz_ | so, should I do --request-db or create-db with the remote pointing koha-common.cnf ? |
| 17:58 | I am doubting --request-db as DB is already up & running!! | |
| 17:58 | * rsz_ | is confused! |
| 17:59 | tcohen | exactly, it is counter-intuitive, hence broken |
| 17:59 | heh | |
| 17:59 | use --request-db | |
| 17:59 | rsz_ | ok.. |
| 17:59 | tcohen | it is designed to be used with --populate-db |
| 18:00 | you ommit that step | |
| 18:00 | me starts writing a patch so we use --use-db fr this purpose, damn it | |
| 18:00 | rsz_ | ok, right.. now I understand.. |
| 18:04 | I won;t get to /etc/koha/passwd (instance_name:db_user:db_passwd:db_name) untill I --request-db, right? | |
| 18:05 | tcohen | create it |
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| 18:57 | tcohen | later #koha |
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| 19:00 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13320: Fix "Tax inc." vs "Tax exc." <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]81c88ac92c5a3561c> / Bug 13320: Move price calculation from tt to pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a907b4d95f1bf1d79> / Bug 13599 - Add patron cardnumber to self registration confirmation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b/?p=koha.git;a=c |
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| 19:26 | gglitch | Hi all. I'm a new librarian who's just inherited a small collection using Koha 3.14.01. Weirdly, my predecessor wasn't using Koha for circulation, so I don't now know what's in and out. My idea is to check everything out, then systematically check everything back in, leaving me a clear record of what I don't have in. Does anyone know (a) of a better idea for auditing my collection, or (b) how I can check everything out in Koha, en masse? Thanks very much. |
| 19:26 | cait | maybe look at the inventory module |
| 19:27 | to find out what's not in the library | |
| 19:27 | it's under tools | |
| 19:27 | and you can check the manual on different ways of using it | |
| 19:30 | gglitch | Thanks cait - just to be clear, my problem is that the Koha catalog lists everything as checked in, because my predecessor never used it for circulation. I'm looking at the inventory module to see if it can be used to check everything out. |
| 19:31 | cait | can't be used for that - but it's madeto check waht's on shelf - the rest would be out then |
| 19:31 | gglitch | Thanks cait. |
| 19:31 | cait | we can't do 'batch checkouts' from the gui easily... you could create a file using the offline circ format |
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| 19:40 | JoeLib001 | Hello again everyone. :-) |
| 19:41 | My Zebra Indexing and in fact all Searches for the Catalog is broken again. The messed up thing is that they were working 100% A ok lat night... | |
| 19:41 | *last | |
| 19:44 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master_D7 build #299: UNSTABLE in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/299/ |
| 19:44 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13544: Make it explicit that getauthtypes returns a hash ref | |
| 19:44 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13599 - Add patron cardnumber to self registration confirmation | |
| 19:44 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13320: Move price calculation from tt to pl | |
| 19:44 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13320: Fix "Tax inc." vs "Tax exc." | |
| 19:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13544 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , admin/auth_subfields_structure.pl does not compile in older perls |
| 19:44 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13599 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add patron cardnumber to self registration confirmation | |
| 19:44 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13320 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Some prices calculation are done in template side | |
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| 20:18 | gglitch | cait: Thanks for your advice about the offline circulation function. This may work for me. Do you happen to know where the offline data is stored? I've searched for a .koc file, but come up empty handed. Is it sqlite data in my browser, or what? |
| 20:19 | (And thanks for the Inventory pointer too) | |
| 20:19 | rangi | morning |
| 20:20 | JoeLib001 | Hello. :-) |
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| 20:29 | cait | gglitch: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ation_file_format |
| 20:34 | gglitch | Still not seeing the location of the file, but I'm sure I'll find it. Thank you cait. |
| 20:34 | cait | you'd have to make it |
| 20:34 | from scratch | |
| 20:34 | with your barcodes | |
| 20:34 | and the borrower you want | |
| 20:34 | gglitch | Ahhh...I see. Thank you. |
| 20:59 | JoeLib001 | How do I attach a pastebin or what not here? |
| 20:59 | NVm....I am blind... | |
| 21:00 | pastebot | "JoeLib001" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Suppress Breaking Things?" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/398 |
| 21:00 | cait | make sure that you have one suppressed record |
| 21:00 | and that it's indexed | |
| 21:00 | it does always break search when there is none | |
| 21:01 | or turn off opacsuppression and try if that fixes it | |
| 21:01 | JoeLib001 | Even when it was set as don't hide? |
| 21:01 | It was originally set to Don't hide. | |
| 21:01 | cait | hm then it would not show up in the zebra query |
| 21:02 | JoeLib001 | Ahh..., I was running a test... XD |
| 21:02 | I'm trying to figure out why I can't search for anything on the catalog. | |
| 21:02 | I thought everything was figured out last night 'cause it was working. Now this morning I can't find anything again. | |
| 21:03 | cait | is it still showing hte same error? |
| 21:03 | which version of zebraid are oyu using? | |
| 21:03 | JoeLib001 | 2.0.44 |
| 21:04 | cait | hmm |
| 21:04 | JoeLib001 | Zebra seems to be running too. When I run the command ps aux | grep zebra |
| 21:06 | I've also restarted Zebra, and Re-Indexed Zebra, and Restarted Zebra again. XD | |
| 21:06 | cait | and suppression is off now? |
| 21:07 | JoeLib001 | I was hiding records, but I can't see where the option was that I was hiding records. |
| 21:07 | cait | ? |
| 21:09 | JoeLib001 | Is the OPAC Suppresion option the only option for hiding records? |
| 21:09 | cait | there is also opachiddenitems |
| 21:09 | but it would not break search | |
| 21:09 | JoeLib001 | I thought there was an option to hide them by item type. |
| 21:09 | Ahh... | |
| 21:11 | Hmm..., yeah I theoretically shouldn't have any "suppresed" records then. | |
| 21:12 | I restarted the server after making sure opac suppression was set to don't hide. Still no joy. | |
| 21:12 | cait | hm |
| 21:12 | running out of ideas :( | |
| 21:13 | it might be you messed up permissions or something like that | |
| 21:13 | how are you reindexing? | |
| 21:13 | JoeLib001 | sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v koha |
| 21:14 | Would it be a problem, if I changed the zebra.passwd file? | |
| 21:15 | cait | it could be |
| 21:15 | why would you do that? | |
| 21:15 | and did you change the koha-conf file accordingly? | |
| 21:15 | JoeLib001 | To set a specific user/pass for z39.50 access. |
| 21:15 | All I did was change the user/pass for the Z39.50 stuff in that file. | |
| 21:16 | cait | you probably have non matching passwords now |
| 21:16 | with the koha-conf.xml file | |
| 21:17 | JoeLib001 | Hmm..., ok. I'll double-check that file. |
| 21:19 | Ok, yeah. I think that's the issue. I'm restarting the server and then will check. | |
| 21:19 | Awesome, that fixed it. XD | |
| 21:19 | Thanks cait. :-) | |
| 21:20 | cait | glad we figured it out :) |
| 21:53 | eythian | hi |
| 21:56 | JoeLib001 | Hello. :-) |
| 21:56 | cait fixed my brain. :-) | |
| 21:57 | eythian | she's probably replaced it with a robot one, but you won't know because it's telling you everything's fine. |
| 21:57 | JoeLib001 | Hehehe |
| 21:57 | I was having issues with Zebra again this morning. | |
| 21:58 | Turns out it's a good idea, if your zebra.passwd matches your koha-conf.xml file... | |
| 22:00 | eythian | that is traditional, yes |
| 22:07 | * wizzyrea | is happy you figured it out. |
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| 22:30 | cait | night all |
| 22:30 | wahanui | goodnight cait. You'll be back. |
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| 22:37 | dcook | eythian: I'm glad that I sent that email to Indexdata. Based on the data I gave them, they seem to think it's a big deal, so they've filed the issue and said they'll get back to me :) |
| 22:38 | eythian | nice |
| 22:38 | tcohen | dcook++ |
| 22:38 | rangi | hey look, the system works! |
| 22:38 | :) | |
| 22:39 | dcook | :D |
| 22:39 | I seem to have this memory of someone saying Indexdata weren't responsive, but based on this experience and tcohen's experience with the facets, it seems like they're actually very responsive :) | |
| 22:39 | If I had more time and knew their source better, I'd even try a patch :p | |
| 22:40 | tcohen | i think i'd depend on their agenda/priorities |
| 22:40 | dcook | Yeah, no doubt |
| 22:40 | Thanks for the later as well, tcohen :) | |
| 22:41 | rangi | i think it helps that you two wrote up really good informative questions/queries |
| 22:42 | eythian | It's all about the reproduceability |
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| 22:43 | rangi | yup |
| 22:50 | * tcohen | broke its mysql-server setup, finally installed 5.6 and cannot run the installer |
| 22:50 | tcohen | there was a bug for that, right? |
| 22:50 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 22:50 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 22:50 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master_D7 build #300: FIXED in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/300/ |
| 22:51 | dcook | brb on phone about radioactive cat |
| 22:53 | eythian | it's now a hulk cat |
| 22:54 | dcook | Well, he's a ginger, so he can be a red hulk |
| 22:55 | rangi/eythian: Yeah, hopefully the email had enough details. I don't think I missed anything, so it should be pretty easy to reproduce. | |
| 22:56 | tcohen: Sounds vaguely familiar? | |
| 22:56 | tcohen | dcook: fixed it, looking for the bug to provide a patch |
| 22:57 | dcook | tcohen++ |
| 22:58 | Where's cait when you need her? She's the ultimate bug finder | |
| 22:58 | Well, hopefully she's asleep now.. | |
| 22:59 | tcohen | anyone attending to marseille? |
| 23:00 | i offer a free beer for the one that finds the bug :-D | |
| 23:00 | eythian | would that I could :) |
| 23:02 | tcohen | it seems someone mentioned it on the list, but wouldn't fill a bug |
| 23:02 | i can invite you the beer anyway eythian | |
| 23:02 | eythian | I just may not be able to make it. |
| 23:05 | dcook | Huh... |
| 23:07 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Is this kosher?" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/399 |
| 23:10 | dcook | Not sure about the order of operations, or even if it's called the order of operations |
| 23:11 | eythian | tcohen: I think that's fine |
| 23:11 | magnuse joined #koha | |
| 23:12 | tcohen | thanks eythian, I think I'll set an error code instead of dying heh, but yes, it does the job |
| 23:15 | * eythian | -> pizza |
| 23:16 | dcook | Mmm pizza |
| 23:16 | * dcook | just had breakfast |
| 23:16 | dcook | But could totally go for lunch... |
| 23:16 | And less DOMS | |
| 23:16 | * dcook | is unpleasantly sore |
| 23:20 | tcohen | now we speak |
| 23:21 | @later tell oleonard how's that work on revamping the installer layout going? | |
| 23:21 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:23 | NateC joined #koha | |
| 23:24 | dcook | ashimema++ |
| 23:25 | Just noticed bug 12954 | |
| 23:25 | Yikes... |
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