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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | dcook | cait: I'm thinking you might want to re-install your dev koha |
| 00:00 | cait | itis there |
| 00:00 | yeah | |
| 00:00 | dcook | Or "upgrade" |
| 00:00 | cait | but that does not explain why cindy's installation si broken |
| 00:00 | dcook | No, that's true |
| 00:00 | cait | i will do that tomorrow night |
| 00:00 | dcook | But that might be totally different |
| 00:00 | cait | too late here |
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| 00:00 | dcook | Yeah, I hope I helped a bit in any case :) |
| 00:01 | cait | thx for taking the time |
| 00:01 | dcook | As for cindy, I don't know enough about the Koha code |
| 00:01 | I know Zebra reasonably well I think though | |
| 00:01 | Anything for you, cait ;) | |
| 00:02 | cait | hi Francesca - night all :) |
| 00:02 | dcook++ | |
| 00:02 | cait left #koha | |
| 00:02 | * Francesca | waves |
| 00:03 | Francesca | hello! |
| 00:03 | dcook | yo Francesca |
| 00:04 | rangi | hi Francesca |
| 00:05 | Francesca | I got github set up yesterday, and have uploaded my ssh key, so will just clone in |
| 00:05 | rangi | sweet |
| 00:06 | Francesca | and I'm going to try running it off xammp on my usb to check changes are working |
| 00:06 | rangi | cool :) worth a try :) |
| 00:07 | Francesca | I clone off my branch right? not the one I forked from orignally |
| 00:12 | rangi | exactly |
| 00:14 | Francesca | sweet |
| 00:14 | cloning now | |
| 00:17 | hey rangi you don't know what file I'd be looking for do you? | |
| 00:20 | rangi | hmm? for? |
| 00:22 | Francesca | the webpage I'm gonna do some styling on? the hea-app one? |
| 00:22 | rangi | ahh probably need to see if you can get it up and running first |
| 00:23 | but they will all be in the views dir | |
| 00:23 | Francesca | ok |
| 00:23 | I'll copy it to my usb now | |
| 00:28 | I don't know if it'll work since I actually have no idea how to set it up | |
| 00:30 | rangi | its an app not a set of pages, so hmm yeah might be tricky to run under XAMPP |
| 00:33 | Francesca | yeah... just found that out |
| 00:33 | rangi | maybe you could try http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/ |
| 00:34 | which i think you cloned already? | |
| 00:34 | Francesca | yeah I've got that |
| 00:34 | rangi | maybe add some links across the top |
| 00:34 | to the main koha site, and the dashboard etc | |
| 00:35 | Francesca | shame about the hea=app page. I was going to update the colour scheme to match the other pages, and add the favicon |
| 00:35 | yup I can do that | |
| 00:35 | rangi | yeah, would need it running, maybe later when we have a virtual machine or something |
| 00:37 | Francesca | I'll come back to it when I get set up with a vm again |
| 00:38 | rangi | sweet |
| 00:40 | Francesca | I can run the scoreboard via xammp so I can test before you make any changes |
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| 00:42 | rangi | cool |
| 00:43 | dcook | Good catch Colin Campbell... http://lists.indexdata.dk/pipe[…]ugust/002576.html |
| 00:58 | Francesca | hmmm xampp doesn't seem to acknowledge my changes... |
| 00:58 | rangi | once you edit the .tt file |
| 00:58 | you need to run | |
| 00:58 | create_score.pl | |
| 00:58 | Francesca | ah |
| 00:58 | rangi | to regenerate the index.html |
| 00:58 | Francesca | ok |
| 00:58 | rangi | then it will show up |
| 00:58 | Francesca | do I run create-score.pl in the browser? |
| 00:59 | rangi | hmm you can't |
| 00:59 | Francesca | so how do I run it? |
| 01:00 | rangi | not sure how you can on windows |
| 01:00 | however | |
| 01:00 | you can make the changes to index.html | |
| 01:00 | to check how it looks | |
| 01:00 | then make them to index.tt and commit that | |
| 01:00 | if that makes sense? | |
| 01:01 | Francesca | I think so... I'll try it and see shall I? |
| 01:01 | rangi | yep |
| 01:02 | Francesca | ok that works |
| 01:03 | rangi | awesome |
| 01:18 | Francesca | Soo the css is doing some pretty wacky things, but I should hopefully be able to fix it |
| 01:19 | anyways I have to go now, but I will most likely push some changes up tomorrow or the day after, when I've had a chance to try and fix all the weird things that are happening right now | |
| 01:23 | rangi | sweet |
| 01:24 | i get an email when you do a merge request so ill spot it | |
| 01:25 | Francesca | see you later! |
| 01:26 | rangi | cya |
| 01:33 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 01:33 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 25.0°C (2:00 PM NZDT on February 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
| 01:33 | eythian | crikey |
| 01:40 | dcook | @syd |
| 01:40 | huginn | dcook: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 01:40 | dcook | @wunder syd |
| 01:40 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney Airport, New South Wales is 22.0°C (12:00 PM AEDT on February 03, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
| 01:40 | dcook | Hmm, getting closer |
| 02:21 | Man ICU is a pain.. | |
| 02:21 | It really does look like hyphens truncate the rest of the search string | |
| 02:22 | Except when preceded by a number as per words-icu.xml | |
| 02:23 | which turns it into "" | |
| 02:23 | well, nothing | |
| 02:23 | So "99-22" will return "9922" | |
| 02:27 | eythian | erk |
| 02:28 | dcook | And GRS1 is a pain in the butt... |
| 02:29 | eythian | there's been talk of deprecating it |
| 02:29 | err | |
| 02:29 | removing | |
| 02:29 | it | |
| 02:29 | dcook | yeah, it's an old install that can't be upgraded due to language issues :( |
| 02:29 | eythian | ah |
| 02:29 | dcook | Arabic support isn't so great these days... |
| 02:29 | At least not last time I looked | |
| 02:29 | I knew I should've studied Arabic back in uni... :p | |
| 02:31 | On the plus side, I've definitely determined that GRS1 (at least in 3.8) uses koha-conf.xml and not retrieval-info-bib-grs1.xml for its configuration.. | |
| 02:31 | Let's see how crafty I can get.. | |
| 02:36 | Bleargh.. | |
| 02:36 | Huzzah | |
| 02:36 | Finally... | |
| 02:41 | Hmm, zebra::index is actually not that useful of an element set really.. | |
| 02:50 | Oh... "zebra::snippet" is kind of cool | |
| 02:50 | It returns the fields where your search marches | |
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| 02:54 | dcook | Hmm, so it looks like ICU uses a hyphen as a truncation marker of some kind.. |
| 03:16 | Hmm... | |
| 03:16 | Looks like Colin might have been wrong | |
| 03:18 | Mmm, the hyphen just splits the terms | |
| 03:18 | I've been told that Solr does the same thing | |
| 03:21 | eythian | in what way? |
| 03:21 | dcook | Z> find @attr 1=1016 @attr 4=6 "traumatologie-UPA" |
| 03:21 | Sent searchRequest. | |
| 03:21 | Received SearchResponse. | |
| 03:21 | Search was a success. | |
| 03:21 | Number of hits: 12, setno 22 | |
| 03:21 | SearchResult-1: term=traumatologie cnt=13, term=UPA cnt=12265 | |
| 03:21 | records returned: 0 | |
| 03:22 | eythian | ah |
| 03:22 | do you have to quote it maybe? | |
| 03:23 | dcook | Quote which? |
| 03:23 | the weird thing is that is doing a word list search | |
| 03:23 | Which means it should be ANDing the terms... | |
| 03:23 | eythian | oh |
| 03:23 | it is quoted | |
| 03:23 | dcook | But it's not. It's just returning the records that match "traumatologie" |
| 03:23 | * eythian | is having a blind day |
| 03:24 | dcook | Ahh or does it... maybe I'm silly.. |
| 03:24 | No wait, it is doing an AND | |
| 03:25 | So traumatologie-UPA is just a search string | |
| 03:25 | UPA-12345 is a barcode | |
| 03:25 | But apparently it's stored as "UPA 12345" | |
| 03:25 | Or rather.. | |
| 03:25 | eythian | does @attr 5=100 make a difference? |
| 03:25 | dcook | "<s>UPA</s>12345" |
| 03:26 | Not when I tried it in Koha | |
| 03:26 | But it's not actually doing truncation really | |
| 03:26 | eythian | yeah, I guess it's tokenising |
| 03:26 | dcook | Mmm, righ |
| 03:26 | t | |
| 03:26 | eythian | if it tokenises the data the same way, then it's probably sensible |
| 03:27 | dcook | Hmm |
| 03:28 | Well, a non-ICU install seems to tokenise as well | |
| 03:28 | At least when searching | |
| 03:28 | I don't know about storing/indexing | |
| 03:28 | I suppose I can test that.. | |
| 03:39 | Interesting... | |
| 03:39 | wahanui | somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 03:39 | dcook | Z> f @attr 1=1016 @attr 4=1 "self-confidence" |
| 03:39 | Sent searchRequest. | |
| 03:39 | Received SearchResponse. | |
| 03:39 | Search was a success. | |
| 03:39 | Number of hits: 3, setno 9 | |
| 03:39 | SearchResult-1: term=self cnt=578, term=confidence cnt=41 | |
| 03:40 | So it tokenises... runs two separate sub-queries.. | |
| 03:40 | then uses 4=1 when merging the results to know only to return "self-confidence" results | |
| 03:40 | which include the hyphen | |
| 03:45 | Dunno. Too many variables... | |
| 03:45 | I suppose it could be a GRS1+ICU thing or just an ICU thing.. | |
| 03:47 | The <s></s> thing seems to be unrelated.. | |
| 03:47 | Or does it.. | |
| 03:48 | Nope. The <s></s> thing is just weird.. | |
| 03:56 | wizzyrea | tl;dr |
| 03:56 | tl;dr? | |
| 03:56 | wahanui | http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/dcln.gif |
| 03:57 | dcook | wizzyrea: pretty much :p |
| 03:57 | wth... | |
| 03:57 | All the problems I was describing... | |
| 03:57 | Magically not happening now | |
| 03:58 | That's... different | |
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| 03:59 | dcook | I think the only difference is that I went to the loo |
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| 04:32 | dcook | Maybe I'm crazy... and I was testing on the bad site the whole time... but I would've sworn that I wasn't |
| 04:34 | I'm wondering if this is a Zebra bug.. | |
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| 05:34 | AmitG | hi |
| 05:34 | wahanui | what's up, AmitG |
| 05:34 | AmitG | all |
| 05:34 | chris around? | |
| 06:02 | dcook | Interesting that cait was using Zebra 2.0.59 and wizzyrea was using 2.0.4... |
| 06:02 | 2.0.44* | |
| 06:02 | It looks like 2.0.44 is the newest the Debian packages get... | |
| 06:03 | Although 2.0.44 is from about 2010, I think | |
| 06:03 | At least 2.0.44 is the newest in Debian 7 and Ubuntu 14.04... | |
| 06:03 | @later tell cait how did you install Zebra? It looks like the Debian/Ubuntu packages are stuck bacck at 2.0.44, but you're using 2.0.59... which is the newest version, I tihnk | |
| 06:03 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:04 | dcook | Yep, definitely the newest version... http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/ |
| 06:11 | Aha! | |
| 06:11 | The bad server was using the Squeeze package from Indexdata... | |
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| 07:16 | cait | eythian++ |
| 07:27 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:27 | * cait | waves back |
| 07:27 | magnuse | :-) |
| 07:28 | one month and we are hackfesting like mad! | |
| 07:31 | @wunder marseille | |
| 07:31 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 2.1°C (8:31 AM CET on February 03, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.49 in 999 hPa (Falling). |
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| 07:44 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:58 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:08 | magnuse | bonjour france et Viktor |
| 08:08 | Viktor: ready to sign up for the hackfest yet? | |
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| 08:11 | Viktor | Bonjour Magnuse! Not quite got everything sorted. But still looking promising. |
| 08:11 | magnuse | woohoo :-) |
| 08:12 | Viktor | And I know Sthlm university is going. |
| 08:13 | Would be nice to meet you, Oslo, Vara and Sthlm at the same time. | |
| 08:13 | magnuse | vara? |
| 08:14 | we could have a nordic mini-meetup :-) | |
| 08:14 | ah vara = kivilahtio | |
| 08:20 | kivilahtio | magnuse: you mean in Marseilles? |
| 08:20 | magnuse: I need to go buy some spare parts for my bike. The pedaling crank broke :( | |
| 08:21 | magnuse: We have been planning to visit Oslo last month :) but apparently there hasn't been that much momentum to make it happen on a national level (as it was supposed to happen) | |
| 08:21 | magnuse: my gut feeling is that we cannot make the trip to Oslo with the representatives of the national library and central library. | |
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| 08:22 | kivilahtio | magnuse: but I can represent Finland to the best of my abilities in the hacfest pre/post-conference |
| 08:22 | magnuse: I'll be back in an hour or so | |
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| 08:39 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 08:54 | magnuse | kivilahtio: i was just thinking we could all go sit in a corner at some time during the hackfest and talk amongst ourselves in langauges the others won't understand ;-) |
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| 09:13 | magnuse | moin drojf |
| 09:14 | drojf | hei magnuse |
| 09:14 | and hi #koha | |
| 09:15 | magnuse | ashimema: just curious: how far have you gotten with pianohacker's rest api code? |
| 09:24 | kivilahtio | magnuse: I can't understand your languages. I can just sit happily |
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| 09:56 | tsp_ | how to get authority records for publishers |
| 09:56 | is it possible to get publishers authority data | |
| 09:56 | so that one can avoid typing it repeatadly | |
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| 10:02 | cait | hi #koha |
| 11:16 | Joubu++ | |
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| 11:22 | reiveune1 | !ping |
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| 12:47 | Joubu | stupid timezone |
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| 12:50 | cait | Joubu: true |
| 12:52 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:53 | Joubu | hi oleonard! |
| 12:54 | oleonard | Is there any reason for Bug 13651 to be "verified wishlist" instead of "new?" |
| 12:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13651 enhancement, P3, ---, koha-bugs, VERIFIED WISHLIST, Provision for monthly library fee |
| 12:54 | cait | hi oleonard |
| 12:55 | i think a misunderstnding on how we use bugzilla maybe | |
| 12:55 | if you look at the help in bugzilla verified probably has some meaing of 'it's a real thing' | |
| 12:55 | is my guess | |
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| 13:29 | tcohen | morning |
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| 13:34 | magnuse | ¡hola tcohen! |
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| 13:55 | tcohen | Joubu: i've been reading Jaceck's idea of caching the db connection |
| 13:56 | we need to make a decision on what handler to use | |
| 13:57 | Joubu | tcohen: on bug 13645? |
| 13:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13645 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , DBIx connection needs to be cached |
| 13:57 | tcohen | yes |
| 13:58 | the recent problems you found, are related to a bug that made DBIx:Class use the C4::Context->dbh handler | |
| 13:58 | specifically, because older DBIx::Class does close the connexion without being asked | |
| 13:58 | i think this caching could make things even worse | |
| 13:59 | Joubu | tcohen: because the connexion wasn't cached |
| 13:59 | it's what my patch does | |
| 13:59 | ha | |
| 13:59 | tcohen | we need to discuss this on the dev meeting |
| 13:59 | for broader opinions | |
| 14:00 | Joubu | what could we do? |
| 14:01 | tcohen | on that bug, a decision was made, to reuse C4::Context->dbh in DBIx::Class |
| 14:01 | it avoided the task to do it the other way around | |
| 14:02 | (i.e. have DBIC set the connection, with its probable own caching tools) | |
| 14:02 | i have no clear ideas on the best way to do it | |
| 14:02 | but am convinced we need to find a sound way of doing this | |
| 14:03 | Joubu | why do you think the patch will make things worse? |
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| 14:06 | lds | hello |
| 14:06 | paul_p: hello | |
| 14:06 | paul_p | tcohen => lds is here |
| 14:07 | lds | tcohen: hello |
| 14:07 | tcohen | heh |
| 14:07 | thanks paul_p | |
| 14:07 | lds: hi | |
| 14:07 | we need to make a DNS change | |
| 14:08 | pointing es.koha-community.org -> 200.16.16.139 | |
| 14:08 | lds | tcohen: ok |
| 14:08 | tcohen | thanks! |
| 14:09 | bgkriegel is trying to put the pieces together to have the PDF manual built | |
| 14:12 | lds | tcohen: but biblibre do not manage koha-community.org DNS ZONE |
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| 14:13 | Joubu | tcohen: I think it's Chris |
| 14:13 | lds | tcohen: may be chris |
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| 14:19 | tcohen | hmpf |
| 14:19 | I thought you did! | |
| 14:20 | @later tell rangi please do this DNS change es.koha-community.org -> 200.16.16.139 | |
| 14:20 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:21 | tcohen | lds, paul_p thanks anyway! |
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| 14:48 | Joubu | khall: Is there a reason circ/offline.pl needs the perm circulate_remaining_permissions but tools/upload-file.pl needs tools => * ? |
| 14:49 | it means that a librarian cannot upload the .koc files generated offline | |
| 14:49 | khall | Joubu: sounds like a bug to me |
| 14:51 | Joubu | khall: actually the upload script could be used for something else, but it's not |
| 14:51 | should we move it into the circ dir? | |
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| 14:52 | Joubu | I am not sure how to fix that correctly |
| 14:52 | khall | Joubu: not sure. Maybe we should just change the permissions, and document why. That way if another use for it comes along it can be checked for other permissiosn |
| 14:53 | Joubu | khall: yep it makes sense, thanks |
| 14:53 | khall | np! |
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| 15:10 | Joubu | khall: do you have ByWater's customers on Koha 3.18 with use_zebra_facets enabled? |
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| 15:49 | bag | Joubu: no partners on 3.18 currently |
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| 15:50 | Joubu | bag: ok thanks! |
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| 16:06 | tcohen | khall: was my answer tl;dr? |
| 16:06 | khall | tcohen: nope, you just beat me to the send button ; ) |
| 16:07 | tcohen | heh |
| 16:07 | Joubu: reminded me of a "TODO" I put on hte zebra facets code :/ | |
| 16:07 | that might be an important one regarding speed | |
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| 16:18 | fridolin | bye |
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| 16:46 | ashimema_ | anyone here using crosref for anything? |
| 16:46 | crossref.. even | |
| 16:47 | hmm.. seems it's pretty uk.. broadening the question.. anyone got any recommendations on OAI harvesting | |
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| 17:18 | cait | tcohen: still around? |
| 17:23 | tcohen | cait: apt-cache policy idzebra-2.0 ? |
| 17:24 | cait | sec - but i think the same as cindy's we checked last night |
| 17:24 | tcohen | i just want to know where are you picking it from |
| 17:24 | cait | 2.0.59-1.indexdata |
| 17:24 | indexdata | |
| 17:24 | i think a leftover from when i was testing pazpar2 with pianohacker | |
| 17:24 | it required newer versions, so we added the repo | |
| 17:25 | tcohen | so, you don't use Ubuntu's/Debian's but indexdata's |
| 17:26 | cait | looks like it |
| 17:26 | wahanui | Can we get some hard data on that? |
| 17:26 | cait | we just did wahanui! |
| 17:28 | tcohen | can u copy your repo configuration? |
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| 17:28 | cait | sources thing? |
| 17:29 | tcohen: where? | |
| 17:30 | tcohen | yes, the source |
| 17:30 | wahanui | i think the source is good. |
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| 17:32 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 17:38 | tcohen | cait: I cannot install the newest idzebra from the repo |
| 17:39 | did you run into any dependency issues fr that? | |
| 17:39 | cait | not that i remember |
| 17:39 | it's probably been set up like that formnths now | |
| 17:39 | but on other bad news... since we tried fixing things last night my search now is totall ybrooken in opac :( | |
| 17:40 | i just reran Makefile.PL from scratch and deleted koha-dev before i did... but still broken | |
| 17:40 | tcohen | cait: just rm -rf ~/koha-dev ; perl Makefile.PL |
| 17:40 | cait | *sigh* |
| 17:40 | oh and reindexed | |
| 17:40 | of course | |
| 17:40 | yep i did that | |
| 17:40 | no luck | |
| 17:43 | tcohen | cait, i cannot even install that zebra version on 14.04 |
| 17:43 | (dependency issues) | |
| 17:44 | cait | werid |
| 17:44 | tcohen | we should warn people so they use the distro-provided zebra package |
| 17:44 | cait | but cindy got it too |
| 17:44 | can i try to switch back? | |
| 17:44 | tcohen | cindy, somehow, has the same idzebra version |
| 17:45 | her logs say "...[log] zebra_start 2.0.59..." | |
| 17:45 | cait | she probably added the indexdata repo too |
| 17:45 | at some point | |
| 17:46 | trying to fix mine now | |
| 17:47 | hm i still get ... trying to install 2.0.59 | |
| 17:47 | and i deactivated the indexdata repositories | |
| 17:48 | tcohen | grep -R indexdata /etc/apt/* |
| 17:48 | s/(.*)/sudo $1/ | |
| 17:49 | cait | hmmm still there |
| 17:49 | but i removed them using the gui | |
| 17:49 | strange | |
| 17:49 | can i just delete them? | |
| 17:49 | tcohen | you could comment it |
| 17:49 | can you paste the line? | |
| 17:49 | so I try myself? | |
| 17:55 | cait | sorry, got distracted |
| 17:55 | it's several lines | |
| 17:56 | tcohen | i'm missing something |
| 17:56 | I have | |
| 17:56 | deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/debian/ wheezy main | |
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| 18:04 | tcohen | cait? |
| 18:04 | wahanui | cait is from germany. Ask me about germany. |
| 18:04 | cait | sorry paste coming up |
| 18:05 | tcohen | @later tell Joubu I think I found the speed problem in the facets |
| 18:05 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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| 18:07 | cait | http://paste.koha-community.org/395 |
| 18:09 | tcohen | cait: that looks like you have it commented our |
| 18:09 | out | |
| 18:10 | cait | yeah but I did sudo apt-get remove idzebra-2.0 |
| 18:10 | and now sudo apt-get install idzebra-2.0 | |
| 18:10 | and i complains about wanting to install the new version and missing dependencies | |
| 18:11 | tcohen | so it doesn't install right now for you, just as with my setup |
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| 18:11 | tcohen | I'm not alone :-P |
| 18:11 | rsz | my vanilla koha installation is _very_ slow, when accessed over the web, where can I start tuning? |
| 18:11 | mtj | cait, you did apt-get update too? |
| 18:12 | cait | yes |
| 18:12 | mtj | ok, just checking |
| 18:12 | tcohen | rsz: how slow? doing what task? |
| 18:13 | rsz | tcohen: any link clicked, takes atleast 15 seconds to respond... |
| 18:13 | mtj | rsz: yr koha is much faster on the LAN? |
| 18:14 | rsz | for example I was setting up the first library via db admin login, every page takes atleast 15-20 seconds to show up... |
| 18:14 | the setup is done on cloud as of now for evaluation.. | |
| 18:15 | one web server machine and db server seperate machine.. | |
| 18:16 | I had done the setup of the db on the same machine, I thought that was the cause of slowness, but even after moving the db to a seperate machine, the page loads are still the same!! so most probably some tuning needs to be done that I am not aware of... | |
| 18:16 | mtj | rsz, i would use top and apache logs myself |
| 18:17 | rsz | ok.. I will start there thanks :-) |
| 18:18 | tcohen | rsz: also try iotop |
| 18:18 | there might be too much iowait there | |
| 18:18 | rsz | ok.. |
| 18:19 | mtj | 'apachectl status' is good too |
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| 18:20 | mtj | hey rsz, what koha version? |
| 18:21 | tcohen | cait: it is sad that i cannot reproduce to aid debugging |
| 18:21 | cait | yeah and also that i don't know more about how this all works *sigh* |
| 18:33 | hmpf | |
| 18:33 | i have removed utils too | |
| 18:33 | i can't even install koha-common rightnow :( | |
| 18:33 | i have held back defect packages? | |
| 18:33 | anyone? | |
| 18:33 | wahanui | Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? |
| 18:34 | tcohen | you need to comment the indexdata's repo out |
| 18:37 | rangi | yeah |
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| 18:39 | tcohen | hi rangi! |
| 18:39 | cait | tcohen: thought it was? |
| 18:40 | rangi | did you do an apt-get update? |
| 18:40 | tcohen | it seemed |
| 18:40 | rangi | tcohen: dns change made, not sure how long it will take to propogate |
| 18:41 | tcohen | no worries |
| 18:41 | thanks | |
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| 18:41 | cait | rangi: yes, but i will do it again |
| 18:42 | tcohen | cait: sudo apt-get remove koha-deps ; sudo apt-get autoremove |
| 18:42 | just in case | |
| 18:42 | cait | i will do once the update is done, not seeing indexdata listed so far |
| 18:43 | removing things now | |
| 18:43 | ah -doc and -common | |
| 18:44 | tcohen | hmpf, the amount of time needed to calculate the facets is linear with respect to the amount of facets to retrieve |
| 18:45 | so elem zebra::facet::au:0:100 takes 1.3s and elem zebra::facet::au:0:10 around 0.13s | |
| 18:45 | * tcohen | is trying to find the bottleneck |
| 18:45 | tcohen | our default (20) is not a bad one |
| 18:47 | cait | tcohen: looks like this is working |
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| 18:50 | tcohen | @later tell Joubu try FacetMaxCount = 10 with use_zebra_facets |
| 18:50 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:02 | tcohen | later #koha |
| 19:39 | cait | @later tell tcohen facets are working now again |
| 19:39 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 19:43 | tcohen | hi there |
| 19:44 | cait | tcohen: back to a working search :D |
| 19:44 | * tcohen | read |
| 19:44 | tcohen | exzcellent |
| 19:45 | now, we need to try setting the newest zebra, and finding what changed | |
| 19:45 | heh | |
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| 20:22 | rangi | back |
| 20:23 | cait | wb rangi |
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| 20:32 | tcohen | hi rangi |
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| 20:50 | wizzyrea | tcohen++ for heroic tackling of zebras. |
| 20:51 | tcohen | heh |
| 20:51 | you mean, unsuccessfully? :-P | |
| 20:51 | we'll find out | |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | wrestling, wrangling, lassoing, your choice. |
| 20:51 | tcohen | domesticating? |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | whichever verb you choose, it will probably end up with a subdued zebra. |
| 20:51 | tcohen | *does that exist? |
| 20:52 | wizzyrea | more like, compliant. |
| 20:52 | maybe not domesticated | |
| 20:52 | trained? | |
| 20:52 | there we go. | |
| 20:52 | tcohen | it is the second time in my life that I read/listen to that word: subdued |
| 20:52 | :-D | |
| 20:52 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 20:53 | tcohen | the first one was in "The unforgiven" |
| 20:53 | "... and quickly he's subdued..." | |
| 20:54 | wizzyrea | I wonder which instructions people are following that they get their zebras from indexdata, instead of debian/ubuntu |
| 20:54 | it seems clear that the debian packages *don't* track indexdata closely. | |
| 21:01 | tcohen | we need to tackle problems with newer zebras before they hit Debian |
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| 21:12 | eythian | hi |
| 21:12 | cait | hi eythian |
| 21:13 | eythian | hello cait |
| 21:16 | cait | hi eythian |
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| 21:19 | magnuse | tcohen: ooh, metallica! |
| 21:20 | tcohen | \o/ |
| 21:21 | eythian | cait: you just said that |
| 21:21 | cait | right |
| 21:21 | eythian | cait: are you a bot? You have to tell us if you are. |
| 21:21 | cait | my head hurts tonight, side effects |
| 21:21 | magnuse | \m/ |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | I meant people who were installing production servers |
| 21:23 | eythian | wizzyrea: the debian packages are reasonably current for when they're released, but they won't get updated beyond that. Jessie has 2.0.59. |
| 21:23 | tcohen | ohhhhhh |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea | eythian++ for knowing all the things |
| 21:24 | rangi | right, so we definitely need to find out the issue before jessie becomes the new stable |
| 21:24 | magnuse | or switch to ES ;-) |
| 21:24 | eythian | magnuse: getting there :) |
| 21:26 | magnuse | excellent! |
| 21:26 | well, have fun #koha! | |
| 21:26 | eythian | bye magnuse |
| 21:26 | cait | eythian: what if i was? |
| 21:27 | eythian | *were |
| 21:27 | and, then you'd have to tell us | |
| 21:27 | cait | why? |
| 21:27 | eythian | it's the rules |
| 21:28 | cait | which rules? |
| 21:28 | eythian | all of them. |
| 21:29 | rangi | http://librarykris.tumblr.com/[…]l-the-necromouser |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | lol that's adorable |
| 21:30 | * cait | dislikes facets strongly right now |
| 21:30 | eythian | you don't anna fix the display of facets in the ES code, do you? |
| 21:30 | rangi | so do most users |
| 21:31 | so you aren't alone | |
| 21:31 | * jcamins | likes facets. Anyone who uses the word non-ironically is immediately identified as a librarian. |
| 21:31 | jcamins | Too many people can pronounce "shibboleth" in this day and age. |
| 21:32 | eythian | jcamins: though, you can tell where they're from by how they pronounce it. |
| 21:34 | cait | trying to figureout why a search returning 22 results would not show both itemtypes in the result set as facets |
| 21:35 | eythian | is it only showing one? |
| 21:35 | or showing zero? | |
| 21:36 | cait | oh it depends on the sorting option you choose :( |
| 21:36 | poor tcohen already got me complaining about it | |
| 21:36 | or had to listen to me complaining about it... | |
| 21:36 | tcohen++ | |
| 21:37 | * tcohen | hides |
| 21:39 | wnickc | wizzyrea++ highfives, virtual or otherwise, are the best |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | highfive! |
| 21:40 | wahanui | o/* HIGHFIVE *o |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | aw. |
| 21:40 | well close enough | |
| 21:40 | :) | |
| 21:40 | tcohen | DisplayLibraryFacets |
| 21:41 | cait | hm? |
| 21:41 | tcohen | nothing, I didn't remember that syspref, sorry |
| 21:55 | eythian | https://twitter.com/erowidrecruiter |
| 21:56 | https://twitter.com/shit_hn_says <-- also funny | |
| 21:58 | * wizzyrea | blinks at some of those |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | that's funny in an "oh god, seriously, humanity?" kind of way. |
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| 21:59 | wizzyrea | however, the erowid ones are quite funny |
| 21:59 | reminds me of kim kirkekardashian. | |
| 21:59 | eythian | http://thedoomthatcametopuppet.tumblr.com/ <-- similar |
| 22:01 | JoeLib001 | I am trying to get Catalog Search to work. I have a package install of koha and tried to reindex zebra and that didn't help any. |
| 22:01 | Anyone have any ideas? It started doing this when I upgraded to Koha 3.18.3. XD | |
| 22:01 | eythian | what happens when you try? |
| 22:02 | wizzyrea | https://twitter.com/KimKierkegaard |
| 22:02 | what version of zebra are you using? | |
| 22:03 | zebraidx -V | |
| 22:05 | JoeLib001 | Hmm..., it seems like it re-indexes just fine, but the new item I entered doesn't show up. |
| 22:05 | Zebra 2.0.44 | |
| 22:06 | I just re-installed everything to see, if that would help too.... XD | |
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| 22:06 | JoeLib001 | Has something changed in how records are hidden? |
| 22:08 | eythian | What do you mean? Since when? Are you using hidden things? |
| 22:08 | JoeLib001 | I can search for my Acquisitions Orders, but the OPAC and Z39.50 don't work. |
| 22:08 | eythian | how are you running your reindex? |
| 22:08 | JoeLib001 | sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v koha |
| 22:09 | eythian | that should be pretty correct |
| 22:09 | you are getting search results at all? | |
| 22:09 | cait | aas you asked about hidden - does it work when turning opacsuppression off? |
| 22:09 | and with that... i am going to bed :) night all! | |
| 22:10 | JoeLib001 | Nope, I'm getting no search results. |
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| 22:10 | JoeLib001 | I can pull the records up by their biblionumber though. |
| 22:11 | eythian | right |
| 22:11 | so "but the new item I entered doesn't show up" is not the whole truth? nothing at all shows up? | |
| 22:11 | JoeLib001 | It's actually setup as don't hide. |
| 22:12 | I was able to search for old stuff until I re-installed everything. | |
| 22:12 | I can't search for any titles. | |
| 22:12 | eythian | OK, I think two things are being conflated here making it confusing. |
| 22:12 | First step: make sure zebra is running | |
| 22:12 | sudo service koha-common restart | |
| 22:13 | JoeLib001 | ok |
| 22:14 | 'heh, that worked. XD | |
| 22:15 | Thanks, eythian. :-) Apparently I hadn't done that after I re-installed everything. XD | |
| 22:15 | * eythian | wishes again that Koha would say "zebra isn't running" rather than "no results" when that happens. |
| 22:15 | eythian | it should start automatically, but there's situations I've not really figured out where it doesn't seem to. |
| 22:15 | JoeLib001 | That would be helpful. ;-) |
| 22:15 | gotcha. | |
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| 22:19 | mtj | eythian: erowid link is genuis |
| 22:27 | its fun to think of various combinations | |
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| 22:36 | eythian | I really need to write a guide for migrating data from an old Koha to a new package-installed one. The instructions that people tend to cite are not the best. |
| 22:36 | dcook | ^ |
| 22:37 | eythian | http://kohageek.pbworks.com/w/[…]0installed%20Koha <-- this one, for example, tells you to drop your database and then create it. All that does is get rid of the grants on the original that are done to make sure it works. |
| 22:48 | JoeLib001 | Thanks again eythinan. :-) |
| 22:48 | eythian | np |
| 22:53 | wizzyrea | I think eythian has the highest question -> happy user ratio here. |
| 22:54 | * eythian | starts providing wrong answers |
| 22:54 | wizzyrea | lol. |
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| 23:11 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #67 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING) |
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| 23:17 | BobB | http://mrjohnclarke.com/tinker[…]d-a-user-s-guide/ |
| 23:17 | :) | |
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| 23:38 | tcohen | @later tell cait seems to work here :-/ |
| 23:38 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:38 | tcohen | @later tell cait things look... consistent |
| 23:38 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:40 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #67: NOW UNSTABLE in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.16.x_U14/67/ |
| 23:40 | Mason James: fix for 13331 [Bug 13331] Subfield does not show in cataloging editor - if subfield is disabled in OPAC/enabled in Staff, via frameworks | |
| 23:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13331 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Subfield does not show in cataloging editor - if subfield is disabled in OPAC/enabled in Staff, via frameworks |
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| 23:53 | dcook | Adventures in ICU + Zebra continue |
| 23:53 | tcohen | dcook: Zebra 2.0.59? |
| 23:53 | dcook | On the plus side, I'm learning all about Unicode Regular Expressions: http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr18/#Categories |
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| 23:53 | dcook | Because you know... who doesn't want to learn about that |
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| 23:53 | dcook | tcohen: Yeah, I found the problem surfaces in 2.0.59, but I think it can be avoided via the icu-words.xml thing |
| 23:54 | tcohen | which problem specifically? |
| 23:54 | dcook | The truncation of words that contain hyphens |
| 23:55 | I've noticed that ICU tries to tokenize, but it just keeps the start of the word | |
| 23:55 | And discards the hyphen and anything after it | |
| 23:55 | tcohen | that's called... right truncation? :-P |
| 23:55 | dcook | I've noticed in non-ICU that it'll break a hyphenated word into separate terms |
| 23:56 | yeah, but it shouldn't be truncating :p | |
| 23:56 | tcohen | ah |
| 23:56 | dcook | It should be tokenizing |
| 23:56 | And it's not really | |
| 23:56 | Or it's getting halfway through and deciding "nah" | |
| 23:56 | tcohen | heh |
| 23:56 | dcook | But this isn't a problem for numbers because of this line: |
| 23:56 | <transliterate rule="[:Number:] { '-' > '' "/> | |
| 23:56 | tcohen | i was revisiting zebra's source code, again |
| 23:56 | dcook | Poor tcohen |
| 23:56 | * tcohen | agrees |
| 23:57 | * dcook | figures if we turn a "-" into a " ", all will probably be well... or about the same as in non-ICU at least |
| 23:57 | tcohen | i want it not to abort if an elementSet doesn't exist in a multi-elementSet context |
| 23:58 | dcook | multi-elementSet, you say? |
| 23:58 | How does that work? | |
| 23:58 | tcohen | that's why we cannot retrieve all facets at once |
| 23:58 | like in | |
| 23:58 | elem zebra::facet::itype:0:20,se:0:20,au:0:20 | |
| 23:58 | ;) | |
| 23:59 | i aborted the idea once i figured zebra would return an error code ("elem doesn't exit") if some facet doesn't have any member |
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