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| 00:24 | dcook | Sweet. I didn't know you could pin packages. |
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| 00:36 | wnickc | @wunder 05048 |
| 00:36 | huginn | wnickc: The current temperature in Lebanon, New Hampshire is 21.0°C (7:53 PM EDT on August 25, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
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| 01:36 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha dcook eythian rangi |
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| 01:53 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 01:53 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 8.0°C (10:00 PM ART on August 25, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
| 02:05 | indradg | @wunder Calcutta |
| 02:05 | huginn | indradg: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 02:06 | indradg | @wunder Kolkata |
| 02:06 | huginn | indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 30.0°C (7:20 AM IST on August 26, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Rising). |
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| 02:16 | tcohen | do we have bootstrap3 already? |
| 02:16 | dcook | I don't think so. I think we're still on 2 |
| 02:27 | tcohen | http://snag.gy/SgGM5.jpg |
| 02:28 | dcook | That's cool :) |
| 02:29 | tcohen | I was thinking of vertical tabs actually, so it can grow |
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| 02:36 | dcook | Hmm, that might be a better idea |
| 02:36 | Or expandable sections | |
| 02:36 | Rather than tabs per se | |
| 02:38 | tcohen | i'm not sure what it is |
| 02:38 | like the accordion we use ? | |
| 02:39 | oh, it might be a carrousel! | |
| 02:40 | eythian | http://shouldiuseacarousel.com/ <-- a reference on carousels |
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| 02:42 | tcohen | heh |
| 02:42 | we don't need an auto-scrolling tedious carousel | |
| 02:50 | * dcook | isn't a fan of carrousels :p |
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| 03:09 | tcohen | night |
| 03:15 | wizzyrea | you know, I think new books displays are mighty fine. |
| 03:15 | but I am not sold on carousels. | |
| 03:20 | eythian | carousels are boring. You want ferris wheels or those things that shoot you up really fast. |
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| 03:57 | indradg | hi! |
| 03:57 | eythian | I assume you don't sleep, indradg |
| 03:57 | indradg | do I need to add a patch's details and test plans in a commit message? |
| 03:57 | eythian: affirmative | |
| 03:57 | eythian | indradg: it's preferred |
| 03:58 | indradg | thanks... was doing that, but thought better to ask, than to be hauled up :D |
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| 05:05 | dcook | hey cait :) |
| 05:06 | "<indradg> eythian: affirmative" | |
| 05:06 | hehe | |
| 05:06 | indradg | hehe |
| 05:32 | * cait | waves |
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| 06:13 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:23 | cait | :) |
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| 06:39 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:39 | wahanui | privet, reiveune |
| 06:39 | indradg | hi magnuse |
| 06:39 | hello reiveune | |
| 06:40 | reiveune | \o_ |
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| 07:57 | indradg | ashimema: ping |
| 07:58 | need to about ptfs sandboxes | |
| 08:00 | magnuse | hiya indradg |
| 08:00 | indradg | hi magnuse |
| 08:00 | you might be about to help | |
| 08:00 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:00 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on August 26, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:01 | indradg | i'm trying to use a Koha sandbox (first time)... with master and web-installer |
| 08:01 | what is the userid/passwd | |
| 08:01 | test/test doesn | |
| 08:01 | doesnt seem to do the trick :( | |
| 08:05 | magnuse | i don't know anything beside what is documented here, i'm afraid |
| 08:07 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]es#Step_4_:_login | |
| 08:11 | Joubu | indradg: you have to setup the sandbox before |
| 08:11 | pick one of the 5 available sandboxes | |
| 08:12 | the " URL to setup the sandbox" | |
| 08:12 | indradg | Joubu: hi... i did send a request for "master" got the email |
| 08:12 | Joubu | indradg: on which one? |
| 08:12 | (sorry didn't read the backlog) | |
| 08:13 | indradg: the sandbox 1 looks setup | |
| 08:13 | http://sandbox1-staff.ptfs-europe.co.uk/ | |
| 08:13 | the credentials (test/test) work | |
| 08:14 | "Sandbox setup by martin.renvoize" but not setup by you... | |
| 08:14 | indradg | hmmm |
| 08:15 | Joubu: what I wish to do (first time, so may be I've got it all wrong) - have a box setup to master, apply the patch for bug 12815 and check if it applies | |
| 08:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12815 enhancement, P3, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha |
| 08:16 | Joubu | indradg: if you applied it today (in the last 10 hours), something wrong append. |
| 08:16 | indradg: I don't have an access to the ptfs-e sandboxes. Try with a BibLibre sandbox please. | |
| 08:17 | indradg | Joubu: uploaded that patch into bugzilla just about 3 hours back fyi |
| 08:18 | * indradg | is not even sure if following the sandboxes workflow correctly :( |
| 08:18 | Joubu | indradg: if you got an email, it should be good |
| 08:19 | indradg: but there is only 1 sandbox setup, and it has been setup 20 days ago... | |
| 08:28 | ashimema | Hi indradg.. i'm about now. |
| 08:29 | dcook | good night all |
| 08:31 | ashimema | 62 | sandbox | Indranil Das Gupta | indradggmail.com | 2014-08-26 06:34:05 | apply | 0 | sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk |
| 08:31 | indradg | Joubu: I think I was doing it all wrong |
| 08:32 | ashimema: yep that was me | |
| 08:32 | ashimema | I can see your sandbox insteadded as master.. |
| 08:32 | I don't record what db you use... it's the DB that gives you the login etc.. | |
| 08:33 | hmm.. Joubu.. how do you guys handle people walking through the installer? | |
| 08:33 | indradg | ok... clueless question time... I picked up one of Joubu's sandboxes... instead of master, I picked out the bug id this time... and bingo~ the patch applied and works |
| 08:33 | ashimema | possibly, I've got somthing wrong in the config of db passwords here.? |
| 08:34 | Joubu | ashimema: the updatedb is executed by sandbox script |
| 08:34 | ashimema | that's right indradg,, sandboxes are always based on master + the bug you ask for.. |
| 08:34 | Joubu | ashimema: when the email is sent, the updatedb should be executed |
| 08:34 | indradg | ashimema then what is the purpose of using the "master" option ? |
| 08:34 | checks for installer related scripts? | |
| 08:35 | Joubu | indradg: if you choose "master", you won't test any patch |
| 08:35 | ashimema | basically so have somthing to test against.. |
| 08:35 | i.e. a before bug, and after bug case. | |
| 08:35 | Joubu: of course it is.. | |
| 08:35 | indradg | let me get this, the master is essentially the "control" in terms of a science experiment? |
| 08:35 | ashimema | silly me |
| 08:36 | exactly :) | |
| 08:36 | * indradg | has a lightbulb moment! |
| 08:36 | indradg | :D |
| 08:37 | ashimema | :) |
| 08:37 | indradg | ashimema++ / Joubu++ :D |
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| 09:19 | ashimema | any dbic pros about? |
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| 09:48 | * cait | waves |
| 09:51 | drojf | hi cait :) |
| 10:05 | magnuse | ashimema: ask, don't ask to ask ;-) |
| 10:06 | * magnuse | waves to cait and the shadow of drojf |
| 10:15 | goes searching for lunch | |
| 10:17 | ashimema | sorted |
| 10:18 | Seems my row object weren't unique enough to be ->update'able... | |
| 10:18 | had to combine the search and update into one action | |
| 10:20 | Joubu | ashimema: you don't have a pk on the table? |
| 10:21 | ashimema | primary key is set to the combination of two columns.. |
| 10:21 | it's a linking table. | |
| 10:21 | and.. the primary key isn't proply set at database level.. only in dbic schema.. | |
| 10:21 | (it's a nasty old project, that I'm bringing up to date) | |
| 10:22 | but yeah.. I've got there in the end. | |
| 10:22 | i was doing search.. and update on separate lines.. with a loop on the search results.. but doing the search and update in the same statement dbic 'gets it right' | |
| 10:23 | now I just need to sort out my ->copy issue and I'll be happy.. | |
| 10:24 | the copy issue is just plain bad db design rather than dbic though.. we've got a qhole bunch of dangling data with no parent in the database.. so the object to copy just plain doesn't exist sometimes :(.. thinking that wrapping in a transaction is the best way around that.. | |
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| 10:38 | indradg | wizzyrea: around? |
| 10:38 | hello #koha | |
| 10:38 | @seen rangi | |
| 10:39 | huginn | indradg: rangi was last seen in #koha 10 hours, 57 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <rangi> pin |
| 10:39 | indradg | @seen wizzyrea |
| 10:39 | huginn | indradg: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 23 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> but I am not sold on carousels. |
| 10:39 | indradg | @seen ashimema |
| 10:39 | huginn | indradg: ashimema was last seen in #koha 15 minutes and 24 seconds ago: <ashimema> the copy issue is just plain bad db design rather than dbic though.. we've got a qhole bunch of dangling data with no parent in the database.. so the object to copy just plain doesn't exist sometimes :(.. thinking that wrapping in a transaction is the best way around that.. |
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| 10:47 | indradg | ashimema: around? |
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| 11:05 | ashimema | am now.. |
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| 12:04 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:10 | Did we ever agree on a time for the next Koha general meeting? | |
| 12:10 | "#agreed Next meeting is going to take place on September 17th - time to be agreed on on the mailing list" | |
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| 12:24 | tcohen | mornin |
| 12:24 | ashimema | he tcohen |
| 12:29 | cait | oleonard: we also forgot about the dev meeting it looks like |
| 12:29 | oleonard: i see your comment on the overdue bug - do they show in red for you? | |
| 12:38 | oleonard | They do not. And the markup doesn't seem to have a class to tell it to be red. |
| 12:39 | I've checked on two different test installations running master | |
| 12:39 | cait | oleonard: agreed |
| 12:39 | i am not sure what kyle does to make it work :) | |
| 12:39 | khall khall khall... | |
| 12:39 | khall | mornin! |
| 12:40 | cait | hah! :) |
| 12:40 | morning | |
| 12:40 | khall | yeah, I heard it that time ; ) |
| 12:40 | cait | :) |
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| 12:40 | cait | oleonard also fails to see red overdues :( |
| 12:41 | khall | weird, maybe it's because I'm using chrome? Let me check |
| 12:42 | oleonard | khall: Not unless there is a class at work here which cait and I don't recognize as the one which should be making it look overdue |
| 12:43 | cait | oleonard: i think the date comparison in the checkout js should set it - but i couldn't see what was going wrong there |
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| 12:45 | khall | confirmed, works in Chrome, not in Firefox. Should have a class of "overdue" |
| 12:46 | no js errors either | |
| 12:47 | oleonard: the code that should do it is in js/checkouts.js starting at line 151 | |
| 12:47 | does firefox not support Date objects? | |
| 12:49 | cait | oleonard: trying to get runreport.pl to send an emali now next - cross fingers? :) |
| 12:49 | to see if i can reproduce the problem you had | |
| 12:56 | drojf | oleonard: i noticed that video embedded in the opac looks funny with the bootstrap theme when used on a small screen. in which css file would i put something like video { width: 100%; max-width: 480px;}? opac.css? |
| 12:58 | khall | oleonard: looks like FF is more picky about date formats than chrome: http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]e-but-not-firefox |
| 12:58 | oleonard | drojf: OPACUserCSS |
| 12:58 | wahanui | OPACUserCSS is an existing system preference in Koha |
| 13:00 | drojf | oleonard: not sure should be changed locally as it looks funny for everyone ;) |
| 13:01 | tcohen | hi cait khall oleonard |
| 13:01 | oleonard | drojf: If you think you have CSS which will make embedded video work for everyone you should modify opac.less and submit a patch for that and a separate one with the recompiled opac.css |
| 13:02 | khall | mornin tcohen! |
| 13:02 | drojf | oleonard: thanks |
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| 13:04 | * tcohen | is generating dbic schemas after applying 10212 |
| 13:05 | cait | does someone know what to do when you can't schedule a report? |
| 13:05 | i have "Failed to add scheuled task" in the gui | |
| 13:06 | and in the logs: you do not have permission to use atq | |
| 13:06 | my /etc/at.deny file is empty | |
| 13:09 | oleonard | khall: Any idea why some checkouts show a time in the "due date" column and some don't? |
| 13:09 | Joubu | tcohen: looking at your followup patch (10212), cait asked me to show/display the panel the user is modifying |
| 13:09 | tcohen | i'm not sure I understand |
| 13:10 | khall | oleonard: is it not because of changes to Koha's date formatting that drop the time when it's 23:59? |
| 13:10 | Joubu | tcohen: you are modiying the panel/tab 'acquisition', you save. The page displays the acquisition tab |
| 13:10 | tcohen | ah |
| 13:10 | oleonard | khall: I guess so, I was not aware of that. |
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| 13:10 | cait | i really need help to get the scheduler working - all suggestions welcome |
| 13:11 | could it be i am missing something in my koha_conf file? i am testing with bug 12031 | |
| 13:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12031 normal, P5 - low, ---, liz, Passed QA , Task Scheduler not sending mail |
| 13:11 | tcohen | Joubu: let me think a bit, I understand what is wrong, thou |
| 13:11 | Joubu | tcohen: I think the "panel" variable is only set if a save has been done, not when you come for the first time. So maybe a [% if panel %][% panel %][% else %] false [% end %] will do the trick |
| 13:11 | tcohen | exactly |
| 13:11 | i'll fix it right now | |
| 13:13 | cait | ColinC++ |
| 13:13 | Joubu | tcohen: not that all occurrences of "panel" have been introduced for this behavior. |
| 13:16 | * tcohen | is aware |
| 13:18 | cait | ok, got a step further... www-data was in at.deny... |
| 13:21 | nice_coworker++ | |
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| 13:28 | cait | ... and received the scheduled report by email :) |
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| 13:31 | chris_n | http://tinyurl.com/l87jw5e |
| 13:31 | cait | oleonard-away: i can reproduce your problem with the replyto adn return-path address for runreport |
| 13:33 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12808: remove useless diags from t/db_dependent/Context.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3bb0b50446e0e80b2> / Bug 12222: members-update.tt has a giant hash variable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ab77c70a58e8cbc2a> / Bug 10212: DBRev 3.17.00.015 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]git;a=commitdiff; |
| 13:34 | tcohen | Joubu++ |
| 13:36 | Joubu | Thanks tcohen! |
| 13:37 | I will try to add the table configuration to acquisition tables on rewriting the gst/vat code | |
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| 13:37 | tcohen | did u get feedback on that? |
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| 13:38 | Joubu | tcohen: no |
| 13:38 | tcohen | hmpf |
| 13:38 | Joubu | tcohen: francharb asked me to add something to the rfc. |
| 13:39 | and some feedbacks on the french ML | |
| 13:39 | So yes, I got feedbacks :) | |
| 13:39 | tcohen | did u get feedback from nz and us users? |
| 13:40 | i'm worried about different legislations being covered | |
| 13:41 | cait | tcohen: worried too, bti sad not more feedback |
| 13:41 | Joubu:could you try to send an email to the koha list again maybe? | |
| 13:42 | tcohen | @later tell rangi we need nz feedback on GST/VAT use cases |
| 13:42 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:42 | cait | i stil have my print out to read through too :( |
| 13:42 | tcohen | @later tell bag we need US feedback on GST/VAT use cases |
| 13:42 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:42 | akafred | koha-create --request-db mydbname gives "awk: fatal: cannot open file `/etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf' for reading (No such file or directory) " Anyone have any idea why? Do I have to install mysql-server even if i am not going to use to run it on the koha-server? |
| 13:43 | tcohen | akafred: its a design problem koha-create has |
| 13:43 | cait | Joubu: i got feedback from a german library |
| 13:43 | tcohen | you need to use --use-db instead |
| 13:43 | cait | I'd like to add that to the report |
| 13:43 | they send it today - about what is required here | |
| 13:43 | tcohen | and have /etc/koha/passwd instead |
| 13:43 | cait | maybe i can get to it tomorrow or the day after |
| 13:44 | tcohen | akafred: put instance:db_user:db_pass:db_name |
| 13:44 | on the file | |
| 13:46 | akafred | ok. I'll try. Is it documented somewhere (e g like: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rate_MySQL_server ) in case I need more instructions? |
| 13:46 | tcohen | create /etc/koha/passwd |
| 13:46 | and use --use-db (without any other parameter) | |
| 13:46 | akafred | And it will populate? |
| 13:47 | tcohen | nope |
| 13:47 | unless... | |
| 13:47 | wahanui | unless is probably meant to give code that reads more like natural language? but i'm not a fan either |
| 13:47 | tcohen | you use --default-sql file.gz |
| 13:47 | :=D | |
| 13:47 | akafred | Ok... is there a bug report on the design issue? |
| 13:48 | tcohen | there isn't |
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| 13:48 | Joubu | cait: ok great |
| 13:49 | akafred | tcohen: Thanks ... I'll have to investigate more tomorrow... |
| 13:49 | tcohen | it works for us, we use that daily |
| 13:50 | no worries | |
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| 14:25 | jcamins | Joubu++ # apparently some people weren't around when I gave you karma |
| 14:34 | cait | rocio++ # like your blog post! |
| 14:35 | rocio | thanks cait! |
| 14:35 | cait | jcamins: so the question is... does the karma still count if noone sees it? :) |
| 14:35 | jcamins | cait: I don't know, that's why I gave Joubu more. |
| 14:35 | cait | :) |
| 14:37 | reiveune | bye |
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| 14:38 | Joubu | :) |
| 14:55 | cait | Joubu: working on bug 12717 now :) |
| 14:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12717 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Library no longer receiving Overdue email for patrons without email address |
| 14:55 | cait | thx! Joubu++ |
| 14:58 | Joubu | cait: If you have a clear vision on how fix the current inconsistencies when sending print notices, let me now. |
| 14:58 | cait | the solution sounds good - but i think we need to work on the gather_* next |
| 14:58 | Joubu | cait: I think all print notices should use the same script, it's why I add new parameter to this script (don't remember the bz number) |
| 14:59 | cait | Joubu: the problem is that you will have to add a lot of entries to the cron for that |
| 14:59 | i think maybe it needs an option for a combined email by library or something like that | |
| 14:59 | not sure yt | |
| 14:59 | Joubu | cait: ok, but at least 2 patches (modifying this script) NSO |
| 14:59 | cait | and the file should not be named holdnotices :) |
| 14:59 | yep | |
| 14:59 | Joubu | cait: will be easy to fix |
| 15:00 | cait | i think so too, but I think we need to put some thought into how it will be easy to use |
| 15:00 | we didn't use it so far, so not sure yet | |
| 15:01 | Joubu | cait: I don't know how people/librarians use these script, so not sure to understand all workflows |
| 15:01 | cait | i thik until the mtt change sit was only used for hold_print |
| 15:02 | Joubu | yep, but I meant print notices in general |
| 15:02 | cait | and there was an additional printoverdues.sh |
| 15:02 | i wonder what shoudl happen with that now - i can still see it on master | |
| 15:03 | it crates a pdf from html files... that you generated with overdues.pl i think | |
| 15:03 | Joubu | maybe printoverdues could be removed after the new patches I submit (but not sure...) |
| 15:03 | cait | I guess we need a good way to announce such changes |
| 15:04 | Joubu | yes, release notes :p |
| 15:04 | cait | i'd not be unhappy to see it go, but maybe after some deprecation tme - it's using a python library too |
| 15:05 | Joubu: but noone reads them! :P | |
| 15:06 | Joubu | everybody should! |
| 15:06 | cait | :) |
| 15:07 | i think maybe not remove immediately - but urge people to switch to the other script | |
| 15:07 | as a first step and make sure it can offer a similar result | |
| 15:07 | or better :) | |
| 15:10 | Joubu | cait: On a major release, it could be safe to describe a good and new workflow and explain that old way/script are removed |
| 15:10 | anyway, I don't a good and new workflow to propose :) | |
| 15:11 | cait, tcohen(, others?): what could be the best way to "highlight" plumbing patches (like bug 12827 I am going to submit). Generally it's quite easy patches, but a routine prototype will be changed. So the integration time should be short, otherwise regression will be introduced easily. | |
| 15:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12827 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , NewOrder returns basketno |
| 15:11 | cait | hm maybe a tag in the title? |
| 15:12 | Joubu | I think I still asked and the answer was : "set the component to plumbing" |
| 15:12 | cait | [API] or similar? |
| 15:12 | Joubu | s/still/already |
| 15:12 | cait | and set the component to plumbing? :) |
| 15:12 | Joubu | cait: yes, but not easy to filter on |
| 15:12 | cait | you could use a keyword - tags seem to be for personal use only |
| 15:12 | but not sure how the keywords work | |
| 15:13 | Joubu: should ther ebe a fallback to another notice text if you haven't defined one? i am testing overdues and have checked email and print for mtt | |
| 15:13 | Joubu | cait: yes, good idea. It could be good to have several keywords defined somewhere |
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| 15:14 | Joubu | cait: Actually, my idea was to fallback using the "print" notice. |
| 15:14 | cait | ok |
| 15:15 | makes sense | |
| 15:15 | Joubu | cait: If the patch, I think the fallback is : sent an email with notice in failure + using the print notice |
| 15:15 | pff | |
| 15:15 | s/If/with | |
| 15:15 | cait | hm |
| 15:15 | Joubu | it's not what you are expecting for? |
| 15:16 | datadoctor | we like a notice priority of SMS > Email > Phone notification > Print Notice for cost efficiency |
| 15:16 | cait | we could work with it - but i think it won't solve the problem of people suddenly getting no email - because they might not have deifned a print notice yte |
| 15:16 | i am still testing | |
| 15:16 | datadoctor | We don't have default notices for all transport_types like we used to |
| 15:17 | if you don't fill one in, I'm assuming you can't send it? | |
| 15:17 | cait | hm well the option to have different notices for different types is in itself new |
| 15:17 | so before you had to use one template for all | |
| 15:17 | datadoctor | I like that feature a lot. |
| 15:17 | Joubu | datadoctor: if no template is defined for a mtt, the notice won't be sent |
| 15:17 | cait | with the exception of hold_print |
| 15:18 | Joubu | (won't be generated) |
| 15:18 | datadoctor | thanks for the clarification Joubu |
| 15:18 | I noticed that is functioning using an unless clause | |
| 15:18 | in the overdue_notices.pl | |
| 15:20 | cait | Joubu: when is a print notice set to sent? |
| 15:20 | datadoctor | if there is no email defined, then prepare a print notice |
| 15:21 | Joubu | cait: when it's sent ? :) |
| 15:21 | cait: and the only wait to sent print notices is the gather_print_notices | |
| 15:21 | s/wait/way | |
| 15:22 | cait | ok |
| 15:22 | so we won't interfere with that | |
| 15:23 | it loosk like it#s working to me | |
| 15:24 | i think what I'd like is an option for gather_print to outout all holds and all overdues for a branch in one email each | |
| 15:24 | i think right now you can't do that - because it doesn't accept multiple letter codes? | |
| 15:27 | francharb | hi all |
| 15:27 | do you know if I have to reindex zebra if I turn on the querystemming preference? | |
| 15:27 | Joubu | cait: note that bug 11603 removes the "holdnotices-" prefix for files generated by gather_print_notices |
| 15:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Gather print notices: add csv and ods export |
| 15:27 | Joubu | s/removes/replaces |
| 15:27 | cait | cool |
| 15:28 | Joubu | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=30983 |
| 15:28 | cait | i was hoping it dd |
| 15:28 | i hope to test it next | |
| 15:28 | francharb | Joubu, j'ai jamais vu autant de substitions de ma vie |
| 15:28 | ;) | |
| 15:28 | Joubu | francharb: sorry... |
| 15:28 | francharb | s/;)/:) |
| 15:28 | ;) | |
| 15:28 | je rigoooole | |
| 15:28 | ;) | |
| 15:29 | Joubu | francharb: to push the enter key is compulsive... |
| 15:29 | oleonard | khall still around? |
| 15:30 | francharb | Joubu, ahah |
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| 16:28 | oleonard | indradg around? |
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| 16:43 | cait | oleonard++ # thx for suggestion a solution for the transl problem |
| 16:44 | oleonard | yeah I'm glad i was able to find a way |
| 16:48 | cait | me too :) |
| 17:06 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "khall: Why this markup preceding the checkouts table?" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/174 |
| 17:07 | khall | oleonard: not sure at this point. it's been too long ; ) I'm guessing either for whitespace, or it's just dead markup that got left in there that got missed during cleanup. |
| 17:09 | oleonard | khall: I noticed because the whitespace seemed unnecessary. The "processing" div, since it is absolutely positioned, doesn't need to be placed in a "row" div. |
| 17:10 | khall | yeah, that markup should be removed |
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| 17:38 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10402: (QA followup) amend unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d1fdb41983d316346> / 10402: DBIx::Class schema update <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]65af64931fc85ef85> / 10402: DBRev 3.17.00.016 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]401aca9d674222c55> / |
| 17:41 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 17:41 | tcohen++ | |
| 17:42 | tcohen | :-D |
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| 17:57 | * cait | waves |
| 17:58 | tcohen | hi cait |
| 18:00 | indradg | hi all |
| 18:00 | hi tcohen | |
| 18:00 | tcohen | hi indradg |
| 18:02 | indradg | I have a question: I tried out my patch for bug 12815 on one of biblibre's sandboxes. it applied and the patch seemed to behave as per test plan. afterwards, I got into my ~/kohaclone and ran `prove t` it came out FAILED |
| 18:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12815 enhancement, P3, ---, indradg, Failed QA , Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha |
| 18:03 | indradg | http://pastebin.com/aM3Rr7AA that's the `prove t` output |
| 18:03 | can someone clue me in what i'm missing? | |
| 18:03 | wahanui | well, missing is usualy library only, an item that's not out |
| 18:03 | jcamins | That's expected. |
| 18:03 | You added a database update, right? | |
| 18:03 | indradg | jcamins: yes |
| 18:04 | jcamins | One of the tests checks that all database updates have been numbered. |
| 18:04 | However, only the RM can number a database update. | |
| 18:04 | tcohen | indradg: you can safely ignore *that* error |
| 18:04 | indradg | yes... that was the first error... i think |
| 18:05 | jcamins | indradg: that's the only error, too. |
| 18:11 | indradg | ok! I see oleonard has tested out the patch. it seems to run for him as too, but he has marked it 'Failed QA' with certain inputs and guidance. |
| 18:12 | how do I processed next: address the issue - like adding the jQuery.IME license info into about.tt and mark it back in 'In Discussion' | |
| 18:13 | jcamins, tcohen what is the expected protocol here? | |
| 18:13 | cait | mark it back needs sign-off i think |
| 18:13 | indradg | cait: thanks :) |
| 18:13 | oleonard | indradg: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=29887 |
| 18:13 | indradg: For example | |
| 18:13 | indradg | oleonard: checking |
| 18:13 | yes I got that that part | |
| 18:16 | oleonard: what i did not get was your point #1 in http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=12815#c4 | |
| 18:16 | huginn | 04Bug 12815: enhancement, P3, ---, indradg, In Discussion , Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha |
| 18:16 | indradg | can you please explain, so that I can avoid this |
| 18:16 | oleonard | Simple: Take out those comments |
| 18:17 | "+<!-- Bug 12815 - Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha -->" | |
| 18:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12815 enhancement, P3, ---, indradg, In Discussion , Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha |
| 18:18 | oleonard | indradg: We use git. Git can track when any particular line of code was modified. We don't need comments in the markup which track changes. |
| 18:19 | indradg | oleonard: you mean this - http://pastebin.com/JutLyzD9 |
| 18:20 | oleonard | No, I mean "+<!-- Bug 12815 - Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha -->" |
| 18:21 | * indradg | been using git only for like a week. trying to get up to speed with the 'jargon', but obviously not there yet :-( |
| 18:21 | oleonard | indradg: Just take out those HTML comments. |
| 18:23 | indradg | oleonard: blimey! i got it! that was just for my own tracking. found out the hard way that in the opac, calling in the lib was not going to work from doc-close-head.inc, rather from opac-bottom.inc |
| 18:23 | will remove those bogus artifacts | |
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| 18:24 | tcohen | indradg: you can use template::toolkit comments if you consider them important |
| 18:25 | -> [%# This is a comment ] | |
| 18:25 | oleonard | But not for adding bug information! |
| 18:28 | cait | hm for some time those showed up in the translations |
| 18:28 | not sure if that got fixed | |
| 18:28 | i hope it did | |
| 18:29 | indradg | tcohen: copy that! |
| 18:30 | tcohen | cait: there are some improvements to tmpl_process3.pl on my pipe |
| 18:30 | cait | it be in already - i haven't checked |
| 18:30 | maybe osmething i need to check next time i see a comment in qa :) | |
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| 18:48 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12325 - Marc and Card view in Z39.50 Results doesn't work properly in IE 8 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1a4366df29cdba833> / Bug 12176 - Remove HTML from additem.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]34d8dd3e03e56ed24> / Bug 12717: Library no longer receiving Overdue email for patrons without email address <ht |
| 18:52 | tcohen | bye #koha |
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| 18:54 | mtompset | Greetins, #koha. |
| 18:55 | I'm trying to build the ultimate test set, but I need to determine the columns of a table, and if they are string, number, or date. Anyone give ideas on a good way to do that? | |
| 19:00 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 19:00 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12626: SQLHelper replacement - C4::Acquisition <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fba8d2cfb7efce069> |
| 19:01 | bag | @weather 93102 |
| 19:01 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 25.8°C (12:01 PM PDT on August 26, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Steady). High surf advisory in effect from 4 PM this afternoon to 3 am PDT Thursday... |
| 19:18 | mtompset | NICE! Found a DBIx way to do it nicely. |
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| 20:22 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 20:22 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 16.0°C (5:00 PM ART on August 26, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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| 20:47 | eternalsword | patron notification emails, can the delay be negative to say how many days before? It doesn't make sense to remind patrons that their book is due after the fact. |
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| 20:51 | eternalsword | or I guess it's advance notice of item due. where is the default number of days prior defined? |
| 20:52 | cait | i think you are looking at overdues |
| 20:53 | eternalsword | okay looks like it's a cronjob argument |
| 20:53 | cait | adcance notices required that the extendedmessagingpreferences are turned on |
| 20:53 | and then you can configure a standard per category | |
| 20:53 | and change in the patron account individually | |
| 20:53 | wahanui | cait: that doesn't look right |
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| 20:54 | cait | eternalsword: are you looking at overdues.pl or at advance_notices.pl? |
| 20:54 | maybe you can do something with arguments, but i have never had to :) | |
| 21:10 | indradg | Hi |
| 21:11 | I noticed something, that out of 522 .tt files under intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules, only 15 includes [% USE Koha %] in their declaration. In contrast, out of 72 .tt files under opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/modules, 49 files uses the declaration. | |
| 21:11 | Any specific reason for this low ratio among the intranet templates? | |
| 21:12 | cait | bootstrap was redone after the tt plugin got available :) |
| 21:12 | well it was done after.. i think | |
| 21:12 | and oleonard used it everywhere it hink | |
| 21:12 | indradg | hmmm |
| 21:12 | cait | it reflects that the bootstrap templates are newer and less files than the staff interface, where changes get reflected slower |
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| 21:13 | cait | indradg: we are still in a kind of transition phase from htp to tt, because we don't use the nice new options everywhere yet |
| 21:13 | htp being the old template system | |
| 21:13 | indradg | cait: just wanted to be sure that there were no design decisions I might be missing out on |
| 21:14 | cait | i think it's mostly a historic thing |
| 21:14 | mtompset | indradg: You could always fix that with a mega patch. ;) |
| 21:14 | cait | please don't :) heh |
| 21:14 | indradg | coz, oleonard comment against bug 12815 that I should prolly not use a separate .inc for the jquery.ime |
| 21:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12815 enhancement, P3, ---, indradg, In Discussion , Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha |
| 21:15 | indradg | cait ^^^ and I can't do that as cleanly as in opac bootstrap templates |
| 21:15 | hence the question | |
| 21:16 | for now I can plug a [% USE Koha %] inside the doc-head-close.inc, but that looks ugly IMHO | |
| 21:16 | cait | hm not sure what's best there |
| 21:17 | indradg | jcamins gave me a friendly warning shot about not going around messing across a lot of templates in a single shot :) |
| 21:17 | mtompset | Wow that is a LONG patch file. |
| 21:17 | I felt my blood sugar drop scrolling through that. | |
| 21:18 | indradg | mtompset: thats mostly due to the jquery.ime lib inclusion |
| 21:18 | mtompset | Yes. :) |
| 21:18 | * indradg | was swallowing hard at the 1.1 mb size of it :P |
| 21:18 | mtompset | Perhaps you might want to split your patch to have the jquery.im lib inclusion stuff as a separate patch. |
| 21:19 | So that your specific Koha changes are in another commit. | |
| 21:21 | indradg | mtompset: doable! how about the leaving out the [% USE Koha %] out of 12815, and adding a fresh patch and *adding* in this second patch as the "Depends on" for 12815? |
| 21:21 | cait what do you suggest ^^ | |
| 21:21 | cait | i think too tired for good suggestions :) |
| 21:22 | kinda late here and about to go to sleep | |
| 21:22 | jcamins | indradg: if you are saying you'd like to make 12815 OPAC-only, fine. If you're saying you'd like to add a bunch of files but no functionality... no. |
| 21:22 | Just add two patches on bug 12815. | |
| 21:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12815 enhancement, P3, ---, indradg, In Discussion , Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha |
| 21:22 | mtompset | I'm with jcamins on that. |
| 21:22 | cait | opac/staff sounds good to me |
| 21:23 | jcamins | Right, I'd prefer it be both OPAC and staff client, but that's indradg's decision. |
| 21:24 | cait | ok, confused, i should have gone to bed :) |
| 21:24 | will now - good night all :) | |
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| 21:25 | indradg | jcamins: hmmmm... how about a fresh patch that adds [% USE Koha %] to koha-tmpl templates; then break up this 12815 patch into separate OPAC and staff client patches, with the staff client patch being made "Depends on" the [% USE Koha %] patch |
| 21:26 | mtompset | tcohen: You will fear the day you told me to look more in depth into the tests. ;) |
| 21:26 | indradg | and obsolete this current patch |
| 21:26 | tcohen | mtompset: ? |
| 21:26 | mtompset | I'm adding 700+ test cases to NewChannels, just to run through every possible data case! ;) |
| 21:26 | tcohen | omfg |
| 21:27 | isn't it possible to generalize a bit? :-P | |
| 21:27 | jcamins | indradg: "Depends on" is only relevant for bugs. |
| 21:28 | The fact that there is no [% USE Koha %] declaration is not a bug. | |
| 21:28 | At least, IMO. | |
| 21:28 | tcohen: may disagree. | |
| 21:28 | s/:// | |
| 21:28 | So what I would prefer is three patches on bug 12815. One that adds the [% USE Koha %], one for the OPAC, and one for the staff client. | |
| 21:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12815 enhancement, P3, ---, indradg, In Discussion , Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha |
| 21:29 | jcamins | Maybe even 5 patches, splitting the added libs into their own patches, too. |
| 21:29 | 1.1MB is *big*. | |
| 21:29 | For a patch. | |
| 21:29 | Small for a feature film. | |
| 21:29 | indradg | heh |
| 21:29 | tcohen | heh |
| 21:30 | mtompset | tcohen: I did generalize. I only use two branch codes, 3 numbers (undef, 0, 1), 3 dates (undef, 0000-..., 3999-...), the some possible values for lang (undef, '', 'koha', 'slip', 'en'), ... it gets large fast when you cover all the possible general cases for each field. ;) |
| 21:30 | jcamins | mtompset: how many of the tests are handwritten? |
| 21:31 | (versus pattern tests in a loop, for example) | |
| 21:31 | mtompset | I wanted to build the tests automatically, but that was too hard. :) |
| 21:31 | well, it isn't 700 tests... it's 700 data points. | |
| 21:32 | Just wanted to freak tcohen out a bit. ;) | |
| 21:33 | indradg | jcamins: in that scenario, the actual feature enabled patch for OPAC and staff client's test plan should mention as #1 'install lib add patch' and in case of staff client - 'install lib patch followed by "USE Koha" patch' |
| 21:33 | ? | |
| 21:33 | jcamins | No. |
| 21:33 | Step one of the test plan is "apply patches." | |
| 21:33 | It is your responsibility to upload them to bugzilla in the correct order. | |
| 21:35 | mtompset | -- sometimes the test plan has steps to demonstrate the problem before the "apply patches" step. |
| 21:36 | indradg | jcamins: so *one* bug filing number followed by a) lib add patch upload ; then USE Koha patch upload and finally the OPAC and staff client patches... all uploaded against bug 12815? |
| 21:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12815 enhancement, P3, ---, indradg, In Discussion , Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha |
| 21:36 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 21:36 | indradg | got it! |
| 21:36 | jcamins | indradg: there's no useful way to test the first two patches. |
| 21:36 | indradg | i was thinking about that |
| 21:37 | jcamins | Sure, you could add a test plan "add a call to the Koha TT plugin in every single template," but no one is going to test that. |
| 21:37 | Ever. | |
| 21:37 | Likewise, you could add a test plan "try to download jquery.ime plugin using your web browser," but it's hard to see why anyone would want to do that. | |
| 21:37 | indradg | makes sense |
| 21:39 | tcohen | indradg: always focus on lowering the barrier for potential testers |
| 21:40 | indradg | tcohen: aye! |
| 21:40 | * indradg | takes the patch back to chop shop! |
| 22:07 | eythian | hi |
| 22:14 | wizzyrea | whaddup |
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| 22:21 | indradg | hi... can anyone throw somelight on this - http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s#Translatability |
| 22:22 | any examples? | |
| 22:22 | eythian | there's examples in koha |
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| 22:33 | indradg | eythian: in /intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences/i18n_l10n.pref it is given as http://pastebin.com/n0kSHX6u |
| 22:34 | but shouldn't it be as http://pastebin.com/xkLXtcCa | |
| 22:34 | eythian | those two pastes are exactly identical, I think |
| 22:34 | but I don't actually know what your question is | |
| 22:35 | indradg | eythian: no there are not exactly same |
| 22:35 | my question is w.r.t. - Single quote (') and double quotes (") must not be used. Use glyphs: « » ‘ ’ “ ” | |
| 22:35 | ^^^ | |
| 22:35 | from the wiki link above | |
| 22:37 | eythian | oh, the quote |
| 22:37 | I missed that | |
| 22:37 | it's probably an error then | |
| 22:37 | indradg | so no need to worry on that? |
| 22:37 | eythian | or it's the case that it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't |
| 22:37 | I don't know | |
| 22:37 | I mean, it is probably the .pref that's in error, the wiki is most likely right | |
| 22:38 | indradg | who might? fredericd ? |
| 22:38 | eythian | who? |
| 22:38 | err | |
| 22:38 | who what? | |
| 22:41 | indradg | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]f=11425&oldid=843 |
| 22:42 | eythian: that specific line in the wiki was added by Frédéric Demians aka fredericd | |
| 22:43 | eythian | yes, he's probably correct |
| 22:44 | indradg | @seen fredericd |
| 22:44 | huginn | indradg: fredericd was last seen in #koha 26 weeks, 0 days, 7 hours, 43 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <fredericd> #info Frédéric Demians, Tamil |
| 23:02 | mtompset | indradg: EEEEEW! Smart quotes. |
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| 23:03 | indradg | mtompset: good for health? :P |
| 23:03 | mtompset | No, for shorter life. Because you waste yours debugging them. :P |
| 23:06 | indradg | lol, so can ignore that "must" for now? :D |
| 23:06 | eythian | well, it might cause problems sometimes, or it might not. |
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| 23:14 | indradg | sounds like Schrödinger's cat :P |
| 23:16 | tcohen | eythian: --enable-sru vs. --enable-z3950 ? |
| 23:17 | eythian | tcohen: they're different things, aren |
| 23:17 | 't they? | |
| 23:18 | tcohen | doesnt' zebra speak both? |
| 23:19 | eythian | I think it does, but assuming they're different protocols that are configured differently, what does the speaking doesn't have much of an influence on the option naming. |
| 23:26 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.16.3 is available! Next general meeting is 13 and 14 August 2014 at 22:00 and 15:00 UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org. Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes. | |
| 23:28 | gmcharlt | http://koha-community.org/koha-3-16-3-released/ |
| 23:28 | tcohen | wb! |
| 23:28 | gmcharlt++ |
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