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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | dcook | eythian: cool. good to know :) |
| 00:00 | Honestly, I had totally forgot | |
| 00:08 | tcohen | hi dcook |
| 00:08 | dcook: can I trust your IE patches do their job? I don't have one for testing | |
| 00:10 | dcook | tcohen: That's a tricky question :p |
| 00:10 | I think that they do the job :p | |
| 00:10 | If you want to test, there are VMs that you can use | |
| 00:10 | https://www.modern.ie/en-gb/virtualization-tools | |
| 00:10 | That might be the wrong link... | |
| 00:10 | Right website though | |
| 00:11 | Yeah, that's the right link | |
| 00:11 | tcohen: Is there a particular patch you're curious about? | |
| 00:11 | tcohen | bug 12325 |
| 00:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12325 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Passed QA , Marc and Card view in Z39.50 Results doesn't work properly in IE 8 |
| 00:12 | tcohen | i tested they don't introduce regressions for chromium and firefox |
| 00:15 | dcook | Mmm, I think that one is pretty trustworthy ;) |
| 00:17 | * dcook | glares at vimdiff |
| 00:24 | tcohen | heh |
| 00:24 | dcook: will u be able to give the facet patches a ride? | |
| 00:24 | dcook | Possibly later in the day. I have a bunch of DSpace work I need to get done today first :/ |
| 00:28 | tcohen | ok |
| 00:28 | thanks! | |
| 00:29 | dcook | What's the bug number again, tcohen? |
| 00:29 | I think I forgot to send myself that reminder email the other day | |
| 00:29 | tcohen | bug 12788 |
| 00:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records |
| 00:30 | tcohen | it has a weird name, but belive me heh |
| 00:31 | its easy to test | |
| 00:31 | :-P | |
| 00:32 | dcook | Bloody vimdiff... |
| 00:32 | Totally busted my templates.. | |
| 00:34 | * tcohen | uses kdiff3 |
| 00:35 | dcook | I'm thinking I might give that a whirl |
| 00:35 | Yay for "undo" | |
| 00:37 | Then again maybe it wasn't vimdiff, and it's just that tomcat sucks.. | |
| 00:37 | Or neither. I have no idea... | |
| 00:39 | Hmm, perhaps it's coincidence and it's a third-party website that is letting me down.. | |
| 00:39 | tcohen | dcook: do u use git for maintaining your templates? and re-compile the war to deploy the updated one? |
| 00:46 | night #koha | |
| 00:47 | am i online? | |
| 01:07 | dcook | yikes, a very unstable third-party website... |
| 01:11 | irma_ | G'day mtj ^^ |
| 01:13 | mtj | hi irma_, #koha |
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| 01:15 | petter | hi #koha |
| 01:15 | rangi | hi petter |
| 01:15 | petter | hi chris! |
| 01:18 | indradg | hi |
| 01:18 | wahanui | kia ora, indradg |
| 01:20 | indradg | I'm planning to add a syspref that will allow the koha admin to toggle whether an js-based multi-lingual keyboard is supported or not... this will be available to both lib and opac interfaces. |
| 01:21 | I should add it under - I18N/L10N preferences | |
| 01:21 | right? | |
| 01:22 | rangi: ^^^ | |
| 01:23 | rangi | yep |
| 01:23 | indradg | :) |
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| 02:52 | dcook | My bad for bashing vimdiff |
| 02:52 | Folding just occurs somewhat unexpectedly... | |
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| 04:24 | dcook | "zr", you're my friend |
| 04:24 | Not that I'm actually still using vimdiff. But I just remembered, in case anyone else feels like using vimdiff for the first time. | |
| 04:32 | wizzyrea | ...question, why can we not have a custom XSLT for the list view? |
| 04:32 | as distinguished from the regular result view | |
| 04:33 | an acceptable answer would be "because no one has made it do that" | |
| 04:33 | dcook | I think that's probably the answer |
| 04:33 | * dcook | isn't sure though |
| 04:33 | dcook | I think using XSLT in list view was a fairly recent addition as well |
| 04:34 | Actually, I might be wrong there... | |
| 04:34 | wizzyrea | it needs a pref like the one for results and detail |
| 04:34 | default, or any custom one | |
| 04:34 | dcook | The only downside of that is maintaining another XSLT :/ |
| 04:34 | wizzyrea | or it can use the result one, unless you tell it otherwise |
| 04:34 | then you still only maintain the regular ones. | |
| 04:34 | dcook | I'm thinking that's the way to go |
| 04:35 | I'm usually good using the results, but yeah...I think sometimes it could be handy to have a custom list view | |
| 04:35 | wizzyrea | well for example |
| 04:35 | I have a library who wants to see the abstract on the result view | |
| 04:35 | for lists. | |
| 04:35 | but not on the results | |
| 04:35 | dcook | Exactly |
| 04:35 | I think it's a reasonable change :) | |
| 04:36 | I wonder what the state of the XSLTs is... | |
| 04:36 | I remember suggesting deprecating the non-XSLT display... | |
| 04:36 | wizzyrea | sad as, i think |
| 04:36 | dcook | Oh? |
| 04:36 | wizzyrea | desperately needs someone to put the RDA fields on |
| 04:36 | dcook | Mmm, yeah, I've done that locally. It's on the "to do" list |
| 04:37 | for upstreaming | |
| 04:37 | wizzyrea | we lack funding for this work. |
| 04:37 | dcook | Of course, if they don't have up-to-date frameworks, they won't have RDA fields anyway :p |
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| 04:37 | dcook | yo cait |
| 04:37 | eythian | surely it's only a few days work to implement in the first place |
| 04:37 | hi cait | |
| 04:37 | wahanui: cait? | |
| 04:37 | wahanui | cait is probably from germany. Ask me about germany. |
| 04:37 | dcook | eythian: Which? |
| 04:37 | wahanui | i guess Which is why it is strange that it BROKE... after upgrading like that. |
| 04:38 | eythian | dcook: RDA |
| 04:38 | cait | hi all |
| 04:39 | wizzyrea | putting the fields on is really no big deal. |
| 04:40 | dcook | Yeah, it would be pretty trivial |
| 04:40 | wizzyrea | though... I suspect we'd probably change our koha->marc mappings to prefer the RDA publisher fields over the old ones |
| 04:40 | dcook | The 264 is a bit tougher than the 336,337,338 |
| 04:40 | wizzyrea | well yeah. |
| 04:40 | dcook | Yeah, we've done that for some of our libraries |
| 04:40 | wizzyrea | actually... could you just do that? |
| 04:40 | dcook | Hmm? |
| 04:41 | In terms of display? | |
| 04:41 | Only if you're not using the XSLTs | |
| 04:41 | wizzyrea | ah right |
| 04:41 | wish there were a way to reconcile the visibility features of the frameworks with XSLT. | |
| 04:41 | dcook | The thing about RDA that I find interesting...besides the 264...I don't necessarily see the utility |
| 04:41 | wizzyrea | there probably is. |
| 04:41 | dcook | mtompset was working on that |
| 04:41 | wizzyrea | nobody has told us how to display it |
| 04:41 | dcook | exactly |
| 04:42 | I've had a few libraries want the 336, 337, 338, but I'm not sure why | |
| 04:42 | Other than, perhaps, that the LoC does it | |
| 04:42 | eythian | wizzyrea: mtompset has done that, not sure if it's in master yet |
| 04:42 | wizzyrea | "because the natlib is giving us records that have it" |
| 04:42 | oo | |
| 04:42 | eythian | I recall it not being far away from being in |
| 04:42 | wizzyrea | \o/ that is happy making |
| 04:42 | dcook | eythian: I don't think so. I wasn't too keen on some of the code. |
| 04:42 | wizzyrea | that is unhappymaking <o> |
| 04:42 | dcook | Although I just commented. I didn't fail QA or anything like that |
| 04:43 | I think he might've addressed some of my comments. But that was a while ago | |
| 04:43 | wizzyrea | he hasn't been around much lately |
| 04:43 | ok well I have to run to get the sprog. | |
| 04:43 | dcook | bug 11592 |
| 04:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11592 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , opac detail scripts do not respect MARC tag visibility |
| 04:43 | dcook | Hmm |
| 04:44 | ciao wizzyrea | |
| 04:44 | It would be pretty rad if the displays respected the visibility settings | |
| 04:44 | * dcook | needs to grab a late lunch... |
| 04:47 | eythian | hmm, why is my dev koha confused as to whether it should be trying to use prog or bootstrap? |
| 04:47 | and so ends up using a bit of each that causes explosion | |
| 04:48 | dcook | Eeep |
| 04:52 | eythian | this is totally weird |
| 04:52 | also, I'm making a new law against modules that don't stacktrace when they fail | |
| 05:03 | * dcook | doesn't have anything to add about Koha. Just complaints about DSpace :p. |
| 05:06 | dcook | I'm thinking it's scriptaculous or prototype magic that I'm not seeing... |
| 05:13 | eythian | ah |
| 05:13 | I had opaclanguage set to en-NZ but hadn't generated bootstrap templates for most of it. | |
| 05:13 | so it was falling back to prog except sometimes. | |
| 05:13 | that was an annoying mystery | |
| 05:15 | dcook | Well solved :) |
| 05:15 | eythian | it came from tracing through the script with the perl debugger. |
| 05:15 | It's never fun at that level | |
| 05:16 | dcook | Yeah, I'm trying to trace a Javascript event for adding a DOM node.. |
| 05:17 | Looks like I've tracked it down to an anonymous function in jquery 1.10? :S | |
| 05:17 | Hmm, I don't think I've got it quite right | |
| 05:17 | I think that's the Javascript that is doing the work... but not what started it.. | |
| 05:43 | Hmm, it's not Javascript...that's why I can't find it. | |
| 05:43 | They reload the whole page :S | |
| 05:44 | Hmm, but there has to be some JS to prompt the submission.. | |
| 05:55 | cait | bye all |
| 05:55 | cait left #koha | |
| 06:15 | dcook | Ahhhhh |
| 06:15 | I should've saw it before... | |
| 06:16 | No Javascript. Just IE7 treating buttons within an html form differently than every other browser ever. | |
| 06:25 | indradg | anyone around? |
| 06:25 | * indradg | scratching head over http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]system_preference |
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| 06:26 | indradg | did not exactly get "The release manager will be the one that assigns the correct DB version number. <<YOURINSERT>> should match the insert line you provided in installer/data/mysql/sysprefs.sql and <<YOURPREF>>, well, your new preference" |
| 06:26 | cait | hi indradg |
| 06:26 | indradg | hi cait |
| 06:26 | cait | do you need help with adding a system preference? |
| 06:26 | indradg | yep |
| 06:27 | cait | in updatedatabase you add a new instance and put the version in as XXX |
| 06:27 | and you don't submit kohaversion.pl | |
| 06:27 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:27 | cait | and in sysprefs.sql (which is sorted alphabetically!) you also add the sql from the updatedatabase |
| 06:27 | hi magnuse | |
| 06:28 | indradg | cait: the last syspref insert was from tomas |
| 06:28 | $DBversion = '3.17.00.014'; | |
| 06:28 | if ( CheckVersion($DBversion) ) { | |
| 06:28 | $dbh->do(" | |
| 06:28 | INSERT INTO systempreferences (variable,value,explanation,type) VALUES | |
| 06:28 | ('OverdueNoticeCalendar',0,'Take calendar into consideration when working out sending overdue notices','YesNo') | |
| 06:28 | "); | |
| 06:28 | print "Upgrade to $DBversion done (Bug 12529 - Adding a syspref to allow the overdue notices to consider the calendar when generating notices)\n"; | |
| 06:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12529 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Overdue notices do not respect holidays |
| 06:28 | indradg | SetVersion($DBversion); |
| 06:28 | } | |
| 06:28 | cait | yes, tomas set the 3.17.00.014 |
| 06:28 | magnuse | it should be covered here, not sure if it is up to date: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]system_preference |
| 06:28 | cait | the patch was submitted with XXX there |
| 06:28 | that is for easier testing - if you have XXX you can run the database update without your version number being updated | |
| 06:29 | it's a little gimmick | |
| 06:39 | indradg | cait: I'm trying to submit two sysprefs, so does this do the job? http://pastebin.com/Z3CwHW9m |
| 06:40 | cait | looking good afaikt :) |
| 06:40 | what is jquery ime? | |
| 06:40 | indradg | yay! thanks a bunch! |
| 06:40 | it is a jquery based input method (editor) | |
| 06:41 | Bug 12815 | |
| 06:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12815 enhancement, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Adding support of jquery.ime to Koha |
| 06:41 | indradg | cait: ^ |
| 06:42 | it drives Wikipedia's browser based multi-lingual input methods | |
| 06:43 | I'm writing the patch to address bug 5621 | |
| 06:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5621 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, kohapatch, Failed QA , Google Translation for indian languages. |
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| 06:46 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:46 | wahanui | hello, reiveune |
| 06:47 | indradg | hi reiveune |
| 06:48 | cait | indradg: cool |
| 06:48 | reiveune | hi indradg magnuse cait dcook and everybody |
| 06:48 | cait | hi reiveune :) |
| 06:49 | indradg: maybe include some explanation about what ime is in the pref description in .pref? | |
| 06:49 | @later tcohen - just found the photo - such a sad face! | |
| 06:49 | huginn | cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 06:49 | indradg | cait: i'm listening |
| 06:50 | cait | @later tell tcohen - just found the photo - such a sad face! |
| 06:50 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:50 | indradg | I should be a little more verbose? |
| 06:50 | cait | the sql is not shown anywhere |
| 06:50 | I think maybe in the .pref would be good | |
| 06:50 | indradg | can do that! |
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| 06:53 | cait | good morning marcelr :) |
| 06:53 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 06:53 | and cait | |
| 06:53 | indradg | hi marcelr |
| 06:54 | marcelr | and indradg |
| 06:54 | wahanui | well, indradg is the one who told me. |
| 07:20 | cait | marcelr: hope the comment made sense ... it's an even bigger mess than i thought |
| 07:20 | with the paidfor | |
| 07:20 | marcelr | too bad |
| 07:20 | i am still thinking about a dbrev for those fields too | |
| 07:21 | at least a warning? | |
| 07:24 | indradg | cait: i'm going to file a bug a "sub-classification" in the i18n-l10n.pref YAML file i.e. "Date and Time", "Language Support" sub-sections |
| 07:24 | so I place it under i18n/l10n or System Admin as the component? | |
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| 07:39 | dcook | @later tell tcohen Sorry, been busy with DSpace all day. Still haven't gotten to the facet code yet :( |
| 07:39 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:40 | dcook | night all |
| 07:40 | wahanui | goodnight dcook. You'll be back. |
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| 08:06 | Joubu | Hello #koha |
| 08:16 | marcelr | hi Joubu |
| 08:25 | magnuse | bonjour Joubu |
| 08:25 | @wunder marseille | |
| 08:25 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 17.5°C (10:25 AM CEST on August 25, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:25 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:25 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 15.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on August 25, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:26 | magnuse | not too bad! :-) |
| 08:27 | Joubu | @wunder Liverpool, uk |
| 08:27 | huginn | Joubu: The current temperature in Liverpool, United Kingdom is 13.0°C (9:20 AM BST on August 25, 2014). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:27 | Joubu | erk |
| 08:45 | indradg | @wunder Kolkata |
| 08:45 | huginn | indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 34.0°C (1:50 PM IST on August 25, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:51 | magnuse | we set a new heat record this summer in Bodø, with 29.1°C :-) |
| 09:23 | indradg | magnuse: thats hot! for you! :) |
| 09:44 | magnuse | it sure is |
| 09:44 | :-) | |
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| 10:05 | quocuy | Hi all |
| 10:09 | Anyone here? | |
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| 12:15 | dpavlin | can somebody check if keyboard shortcuts are working in current master? For me they seem to select wrong tabs, and looking in the code I have no idea why |
| 12:17 | alt+r (checkout does work) but alt+u (checkin) and alt+q (catalouge search) are... all over the place, depending on page | |
| 12:18 | * dpavlin | suspect local problem, so need confirmation before opening bug |
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| 12:24 | cait | hi dpavlin :) |
| 12:24 | hm can't check on master | |
| 12:24 | would be 3.16.2 ok? | |
| 12:26 | dpavlin | I can see that after commit 9fe36e0c705b958859babe565517554b722c66cd (on which our production is on) and on current master, I don't really know about 3.16.2, but it would be nice to know if it works there... |
| 12:27 | magnuse | dpavlin: works for me |
| 12:28 | gitified setup. git says i'm up to date with master, but "about koha" says 3.15.00.052?!? | |
| 12:29 | dpavlin | for me, even 3.16.x on home pages selects search patrons for q, and search catalogue for u, so local problem, I guess... |
| 12:30 | * dpavlin | wonders about aliens and cosmic rays -- I see it both in Firefox and Chrome... |
| 12:31 | magnuse | :-) |
| 12:31 | * magnuse | wonders why about koha says 3.15 when the value in the syspref table is 3.1700011 |
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| 12:33 | Joubu | dpavlin: here I got: alt+r: checkin, alt+u: checkout, alt+q: search |
| 12:33 | catalog search | |
| 12:33 | tcohen | morning! |
| 12:33 | wahanui | hmmm... morning is a state of cat |
| 12:33 | tcohen | hi Joubu |
| 12:34 | magnuse: around? | |
| 12:34 | dpavlin | thanks everyone, I'm going back to my dungeon to figure this out |
| 12:34 | Joubu | magnuse: it seems that about.pl displayes the version in kohaversion.pl |
| 12:34 | Hi tcohen! | |
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| 12:45 | magnuse | sorry, i gotta run (picking up from kindergarten :-) |
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| 13:32 | datadoctor | Good morning. Here at Stow-Munroe Falls Public Library we are looking to update to Koha v3.16. |
| 13:33 | But we are concerned about print notifications. | |
| 13:34 | So far, I can't find a bug report, but the suggestion is that print notices do not generate properly after the addition of multiple notice per message_transport_type. | |
| 13:38 | Joubu | datadoctor: there are 2 bug reports |
| 13:38 | bug 12717 | |
| 13:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12717 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Library no longer receiving Overdue email for patrons without email address |
| 13:38 | Joubu | and bug 12810 |
| 13:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12810 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , After MTT gather_print_notices includes overdues |
| 13:39 | Joubu | datadoctor: could you detail? When the print notices are not generated properly? |
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| 13:41 | kivilahtio | Have you ever had a cronjob failure? Where no cronjobs run for 3 days? |
| 13:41 | Joubu | kivilahtio: all cronjobs?? |
| 13:41 | kivilahtio | Joubu: yes |
| 13:42 | Joubu | kivilahtio: nothing in logs? |
| 13:42 | kivilahtio | I am looking in my logs and see that advance_notices.pl, overdue_notices.pl , fines.pl cancel_expired_holds.pl have not ran |
| 13:43 | I created a custom wrapper to log all my cronjobs to their respective log-entries to monitor the runtimes and verbose outputs | |
| 13:43 | Joubu | and others run? |
| 13:43 | kivilahtio | have nt really peeked at the syslog |
| 13:43 | I am just wondering how is it possible for cronjobs not to run for 3 days | |
| 13:43 | Joubu | kivilahtio: you should see the job launched in syslog (or daemon) I think |
| 13:43 | kivilahtio | then just happen to continue running |
| 13:45 | too bad syslogs are only for the past 7 days | |
| 13:45 | this event happened on 15-17.8 | |
| 13:46 | I was also busy with some migration stuff, doing screen scraping to bring a small library to Koha | |
| 13:46 | based on the enormous amount of errors reports I am getting I prolly should run those scripts that MUST be ran every day now | |
| 13:47 | too bad most of the koha-scripts dont support other dates than NOW() | |
| 13:47 | I guess I need to submit patches :) | |
| 13:48 | anyway just asking if you have had issues with cronjobs not running | |
| 13:49 | Joubu | kivilahtio: bug 11120 fixed the --date for overdue_notices |
| 13:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11120 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The date option for the overdue_notices cronjob is broken |
| 13:49 | Joubu | but the patch does not apply anymore (too bad) |
| 13:49 | kivilahtio | I had it fixed as well, but somehow didnt have time to submit a patch |
| 13:49 | we have some custom modifications regarding holds and they are going awol | |
| 13:50 | also our trainee working with those things has been pushed to holidays :) | |
| 13:50 | Joubu | kivilahtio: Did you fix --date for overdue_notices on master? |
| 13:50 | kivilahtio | I didn't publish a patch for it |
| 13:50 | i think i made an internal patch but then forgot about the thing because there was this and that problem | |
| 13:51 | Joubu | kivilahtio: yes I understood :) But you have a code working? |
| 13:51 | kivilahtio | yes |
| 13:51 | for some old master version we are using | |
| 13:51 | Joubu | great |
| 13:51 | ha :) | |
| 13:51 | so bug 11120 did that :) | |
| 13:51 | kivilahtio | we were about to upgrade to 3.16.2 but then "something" hapeneed and that is on ice |
| 13:52 | ah yeah schedule pressure about the small library migration | |
| 13:52 | anyway | |
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| 14:01 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 14:02 | tcohen | hi |
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| 14:14 | quocuy | HI all |
| 14:15 | Is there anyone here? | |
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| 14:33 | datadoctor | Hi quocuy. |
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| 15:05 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:20 | quocuy | Hello all! |
| 16:21 | I have a question, how i can add some tabs in to "menu-top" div, beside login tab | |
| 16:21 | i'm playing around with kohs as cms, and want create some pages on the top-menu of Koha | |
| 16:27 | hi | |
| 16:27 | jcamins | jquery library? |
| 16:27 | wahanui | jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/JQuery_Library |
| 16:27 | jcamins | quocuy: ^^ you might find some examples there |
| 16:28 | quocuy | here is one |
| 16:28 | http://koha.vn/ | |
| 16:28 | jcamins | I'm not sure, but it seems worth a try. |
| 16:28 | I mean examples of how to do it. | |
| 16:28 | Not example catalogs. | |
| 16:28 | quocuy | just want to create top menu like that, i created some pages with koha as CMS, now i want to add them to top menu |
| 16:30 | Jcamins: Thanks, doing some search | |
| 16:34 | didn't find anything :( | |
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| 16:57 | nengard | anyone know why this : $("option[value='LANSING']").hide(); would work in firefox but not chrome? |
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| 17:39 | mtompset | datadoctor: you missed quocuy by 18 minutes. ;) |
| 17:39 | Oops... was scrolled up. :) | |
| 17:40 | Anyone familiar with converting SQL into DBIx stuffs? | |
| 17:40 | cait | khall? :) |
| 17:40 | but apart from t hat, maybe look at some of yohann's patches? | |
| 17:40 | * mtompset | cringes. |
| 17:40 | cait | hm? |
| 17:41 | mtompset | No, please no more abstractions! |
| 17:41 | :) | |
| 17:41 | cait | sorry long day, you got me confused |
| 17:42 | jcamins | I agree. More bit twiddling is what Koha needs! |
| 17:42 | mtompset | I looked at one of yohann's patches and my brain melted, because of the layers of abstractions. |
| 17:42 | cait | jcamins: you ar enot helping |
| 17:43 | mtompset: i didn't mean thte test builder | |
| 17:43 | i think that's what you meant? | |
| 17:43 | * mtompset | laughs. |
| 17:43 | mtompset | Yes, that's the scariness. |
| 17:43 | * cait | goes to sit in a corner and be quiet now |
| 17:46 | mtompset | It's okay. I do appreciate the suggestion, cait. Can you point me at a non-test-builder patch? |
| 17:46 | jcamins | grep the codebase for DBIx stuff? |
| 17:47 | tcohen | whatsup? |
| 17:49 | cait | hmalso that |
| 17:49 | tcohen: mtompset is looking for patches converting sql to dbix | |
| 17:49 | mtompset | As tcohen is aware, the GetNewsToDisplay function is currently running an SQL query directly against dbi. |
| 17:49 | As per tcohen's suggestion, I was thinking of refactoring that one function to be DBIx. | |
| 17:50 | The problem is timestamp and date manipulations. | |
| 17:50 | In the where clause there has been four versions of an ugly date constraint. | |
| 17:50 | DATE(timestamp) < DATE_ADD(CURDATE(), INTERVAL 1 DAY) | |
| 17:50 | CAST( opac_news.timestamp AS DATE ) <= CURRENT_DATE | |
| 17:50 | `timestamp` < CURRENT_DATE()+1 | |
| 17:50 | `timestamp` <= CURRENT_DATE() | |
| 17:51 | (in no particular order) | |
| 17:51 | How do I do those as a DBIx where? | |
| 17:51 | the last two, I think I might be able to manage. | |
| 17:51 | The first two look harder, because they contain functions on the left side. | |
| 17:52 | and perhaps there is a DBIx way of doing it. | |
| 17:53 | tcohen | we need khall |
| 17:53 | khall | what's up? |
| 17:54 | mtompset | Is there a nice DBIx way of doing a timestamp to date truncation and comparison to another date? ;) |
| 17:55 | By the way, it was bug 12507 which conflicted with 12167, tcohen. | |
| 17:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12507 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , News does not always display in staff or OPAC |
| 17:55 | khall | well, with the right configuration DBIx::Class can automatically turn the timestamps in the db into DateTime objects |
| 17:55 | don't think that helps here though | |
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| 17:56 | mtompset | No, I don't think so, because this is about building a WHERE clause. :) |
| 17:56 | khall | yep, however, you can also call mysql functions from dbic |
| 17:57 | mtompset | take either of the first two examples from about 6 minutes ago, and demonstrate? |
| 17:58 | cait | khall: i am starting to feel a little bit worried - everytime i say your name you don't make a sound... but whenever soeone else does you show up :) |
| 17:58 | khall | lol, must've been lost in thought ; ) |
| 17:59 | mtompset | http://youtu.be/HDi7qOhECW8 -- You've lost that lovin' feelin'. :) |
| 18:01 | khall | mtompset: we can calculate tomorrow using a DateTime object, and pass that in |
| 18:03 | mtompset | example? |
| 18:03 | wahanui | it has been said that example is probably a status change |
| 18:03 | khall | mtompset: working on it |
| 18:07 | cait | mtompset: not available here in germany - your link :( |
| 18:08 | mtompset | Sorry cait. |
| 18:14 | cait | mtompset: it's ok :) |
| 18:14 | i think i need to have dinner, then everything will be better :) | |
| 18:14 | mtompset | you at least know the song I was referencing. :) |
| 18:20 | indradg | good evening #koha |
| 18:22 | i have a question. Suppose I wish to add something like doc-head-close.inc that gets added to every template file under intranet-tmpl, what would be the easiest way to go about it? | |
| 18:23 | in my case, i planning to add two lines of code in each of the the .pl files that load up a .tt | |
| 18:23 | jcamins | indradg: first question? |
| 18:23 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
| 18:25 | indradg | jcamins: trying to add an if statement in *all* the perl scripts that load a .tt template referencing a [% INCLUDE doc-head-close.in %] |
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| 18:25 | jcamins | indradg: right, but why are you trying to do that? |
| 18:26 | indradg | so that i can pass a template param - a syspref condition |
| 18:26 | if syspref then do this | |
| 18:26 | jcamins | My initial response is that this is a horrible idea, because you're making an identical change in dozens of files. |
| 18:26 | But I'm not sure what your actual goal is. | |
| 18:26 | indradg | yes... which is why I stopped and asked |
| 18:27 | jcamins: the objective is bug 12815 | |
| 18:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12815 enhancement, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha |
| 18:27 | jcamins | So why do you need to change the Perl files? |
| 18:28 | indradg | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=31130 |
| 18:28 | jcamins | My initial response is that you could just stick your new code in doc-head-close. |
| 18:29 | indradg | I have those two new sysprefs working |
| 18:29 | tcohen | indradg: Koha.Preference('SysPref') on the template |
| 18:29 | indradg | aaaaaaaargh! |
| 18:29 | tcohen | :=D |
| 18:29 | * indradg | in a major facepalm moment! |
| 18:29 | indradg | :-P |
| 18:30 | thanks jcamins, tcohen | |
| 18:30 | jcamins | Yeah, I agree with tcohen. |
| 18:30 | mtompset | tcohen++ # Koha.Preference('SysPref') for the win |
| 18:30 | tcohen | you need to [%- USE Koha -%] first |
| 18:30 | mtompset | The -'s prevent accidentally adding spacing. :) |
| 18:31 | tcohen | amen |
| 18:31 | indradg | tcohen: I got it know... some how the idea of adding an IF to dozens of .pl files looked like something way obscene |
| 18:31 | s/know/now | |
| 18:31 | * tcohen | in blasfemous mode, sorry for that |
| 18:31 | tcohen | indradg: :-D |
| 18:32 | khall | mtompset: something like: |
| 18:32 | my $dt = DateTime->now()->subtract(days => 1); | |
| 18:32 | my $parser = $schema->storage->datetime_parser; | |
| 18:32 | my @results = $schema->resultset('OpacNews')->search( | |
| 18:32 | { | |
| 18:32 | -and => ] | |
| 18:32 | -or => [ | |
| 18:32 | mtompset | Sorry, but Amen is totally applicable and NOT blasphemous. You weren't calling Koha.Preference() a deity. ;) |
| 18:32 | khall | lang => '', |
| 18:32 | lang => $lang, | |
| 18:32 | ], | |
| 18:32 | -or => [ | |
| 18:32 | branchcode => undef, | |
| 18:32 | branchcode => $branch | |
| 18:32 | ], | |
| 18:32 | -or => [ | |
| 18:32 | expirationdate => \'>= CURRENT_DATE()', | |
| 18:32 | expirationdate => undef, | |
| 18:32 | expirationdate => '00-00-0000' | |
| 18:32 | ], | |
| 18:32 | \[ 'DATE(timestamp) < ?', $parser->format_datetime($dt) ] | |
| 18:32 | ], | |
| 18:32 | tcohen | indradg: that's what khall thought when writing that Template plugin |
| 18:32 | khall | }, |
| 18:32 | { | |
| 18:32 | order_by => [ 'number' ], | |
| 18:32 | } | |
| 18:32 | ); | |
| 18:33 | mtompset | khall, a paste.koha-community.org would have been better. :P |
| 18:33 | khall | http://paste.koha-community.org/170 |
| 18:34 | mtompset | got the wrong square bracket at the top, but I had something similar. |
| 18:34 | khall | no guarantees I got it right, not tested ; ) |
| 18:35 | mtompset | Thanks for the example of passing a parameter. |
| 18:35 | khall | yeah, it's better to avoid that when possible, but sometimes we must |
| 18:41 | mtompset | khall: Can I ask about an amendment to that? |
| 18:41 | You grab the date at the top. | |
| 18:41 | But then get DBIx to doa CURRENT_DATE() | |
| 18:42 | could that line be changed to something like the parameter part below? | |
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| 18:48 | khall | mtompset: we could just use another DateTime object for the current date, that would simplify things a bit |
| 18:55 | indradg | just one quick question: does encountering more than one [% USE Koha %] directive via the .inc files create any performance / memory impact? |
| 18:55 | jcamins, tcohen | |
| 18:55 | tcohen | i'm not sure indradg |
| 18:56 | it is probably on one of the global headers anyway | |
| 18:56 | bye! | |
| 18:59 | jcamins | indradg: I think [% USE %] is file-scoped, but I'm not sure. |
| 19:02 | indradg | based on what you guys told me, this is what I'm planning to do -> INCLUDE directive in doc-head-close.inc pointing to xyz.css.inc xyz.js.inc; inside these latter .inc file using [% USE Koha %] to check for Koha.Preference('syspref') |
| 19:02 | mtompset | khall: Okay, I think I have something, but I'm having difficulty. |
| 19:02 | indradg | jcamins ^ |
| 19:03 | that looks minimally invasive and keeping things clean. but was worrying over the two USE Koha calls | |
| 19:03 | * indradg | knows zilch about these things so far |
| 19:04 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "My ugly test code." (48 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/171 |
| 19:05 | cait | indradg: what else goes into the inc? |
| 19:05 | and i think you migh tnot need to add use koha - maybe check if it's there before, it only has to be on a page once | |
| 19:06 | indradg | cait: basically if syspref ON, then include the CSS and JS *and* jquery document.ready hook |
| 19:07 | cait | hm ok:) |
| 19:13 | indradg | cait: only 15 .tt files include the [% USE Koha %] declaration so far - http://pastebin.com/yeWDAz0Q |
| 19:17 | cait | ah |
| 19:17 | i thnk the boostrap opac has a few more | |
| 19:17 | those seem all to be intranet? | |
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| 20:55 | mtompset | Well, this is lousy! I am positive I have good DBIx, but the SQL generated is bad. |
| 20:55 | Where is my where clause?! | |
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| 21:41 | eythian | coffee is <reply>http://www.workbuffer.org/pres[…]images/coffee.jpg |
| 21:41 | wahanui: coffee is <reply>http://www.workbuffer.org/pres[…]images/coffee.jpg | |
| 21:41 | wahanui | ...but coffee is mostly not Brooke's medicine... |
| 21:41 | eythian | no wahanui, coffee is <reply>http://www.workbuffer.org/pres[…]images/coffee.jpg |
| 21:41 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 21:44 | cait | tsk and no contribution? |
| 21:45 | * cait | thinks her photo is art :P |
| 21:47 | indradg | hi.. /me is back again :-) |
| 21:47 | cait | hi indradg |
| 21:47 | i guess i need to go to sleep - good night #koha :) | |
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| 21:48 | indradg | is I have to place a commonly accessed .js library for the OPAC, should I place it in [% interface %]/[% theme %] or simply under [% interface %] ? |
| 21:49 | the former would of course restrict it to the specified opac theme... but are there any other gotchas to be aware of? | |
| 21:49 | eythian | different themes may require different versions? |
| 21:49 | there's already a lib/ directory for that kind of stuff | |
| 21:50 | note that unless it's a thing for upstreaming, we've found it generally better to put it external to koha entirely. | |
| 21:50 | indradg | eythian: "external to koha entirely"? |
| 21:50 | eythian | not in the koha file tree |
| 21:51 | indradg | ok |
| 21:51 | eythian | that way you keep your koha as close to stock as you can, which is a good thing. |
| 21:53 | indradg | eythian: what I'm doing at the moment is a replacement for GoogleTransliteration syspref that used to dot the templates, but has since been removed as the submitted patch failed QA - bug 5621 |
| 21:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5621 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, kohapatch, Failed QA , Google Translation for indian languages. |
| 21:54 | eythian | ah k |
| 21:55 | indradg | the proposed patch calls for a mini-fied https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.ime library |
| 21:55 | eythian ^ | |
| 21:56 | eythian | OK. In that case, I'd probably put it whereever the other libs go. |
| 21:56 | indradg | so [%interface%]/libs |
| 21:57 | :) eythian++ | |
| 21:57 | eythian | sounds good :) |
| 22:00 | indradg | @wunder kolkata |
| 22:00 | huginn | indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 28.0°C (3:20 AM IST on August 26, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:00 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 22:00 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (9:30 AM NZST on August 26, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:00 | eythian | hmm. meet in the middle? |
| 22:01 | indradg | insane! its 3:30 am here :) |
| 22:02 | eythian | oh those oddball half-hour timezones |
| 22:18 | bag | @wunder 93102 |
| 22:18 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 22.4°C (3:18 PM PDT on August 25, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). High surf advisory in effect from 6 PM Tuesday to 3 am PDT Thursday... |
| 22:19 | wizzyrea | hm do you have weather rolling in bag? |
| 22:19 | bag | @more |
| 22:19 | huginn | bag: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick. |
| 22:20 | bag | wizzyrea: nope just partly cloudly for the rest of the week |
| 22:20 | but high surf that sounds fun | |
| 22:29 | wizzyrea | here that usually means there's some kind of weather system coming. |
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| 23:29 | tcohen | hi |
| 23:30 | dpk | Hello. I have been building and installing Koha from source since 3.4 or so and an thinking about moving over to the koha-common Debian packages. One thing we have found very useful is to test new *major* releases before we move to that track, and we have found some bugs that caused us to move after a .1 or .2 release. How do you suggest I do this in the future? Keep using a built from source for "beta testing"? Who controls |
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| 23:31 | tcohen | dpk: why would you still build from sources? |
| 23:32 | packages is a way of deploying Koha in your infrastructure | |
| 23:32 | we usually build our own packages for deploy | |
| 23:33 | with the branch we're using + some patches that are not yet included | |
| 23:33 | but there's usually no hurry and we might have installed stock packages | |
| 23:33 | if we convinced the release maintainer to include some tiny patches ;) | |
| 23:34 | eythian | that release maintainer is a terrible person. |
| 23:35 | tcohen | heh |
| 23:35 | * dcook | notices offhand that a remarkable percentage of Koha is actually made up of fractions of percents. |
| 23:35 | eythian | I don't know what that means. |
| 23:35 | tcohen | tautology? |
| 23:36 | eythian | could be |
| 23:36 | dcook | According to the GitStats, the top 10 committers are responsible for... |
| 23:36 | 53.67% of Koha | |
| 23:36 | tcohen | gitstats? |
| 23:37 | dpk | I am very familiar with packages and their advantages. (I am a long time Unix/Linux SA and SW developer) We have found that occasionally the major release have bugs that prevent us moving over on the .0 release. Sometimes we need to wait a minor release or 2, to move from one major release to another. Elaine Bradtke, the librarian half of this team, has found several and that is in part because we are a research library (efds |
| 23:37 | dcook | The remaining 46.33% is made up of contributions that are no larger than 1% of the total of Koha |
| 23:37 | Oh, I lie | |
| 23:37 | After the top 20, it gets down to under 1% of the total contributions | |
| 23:37 | tcohen: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ster/authors.html | |
| 23:38 | rangi | dpk: yep, im not sure what that has to do with the packages tho? |
| 23:38 | you can wait for a .x package if you want | |
| 23:38 | eythian | dpk: you can have a few different degrees of control over what version you're running quite happily |
| 23:39 | dpk: from making your own, to tracking the current releases, to tracking the older releases, or just not upgrading for a few months on a new release. | |
| 23:39 | dpk | The packages are updated periodically. Is there an easy way to stop apt-get update/upgrade from upgrading koha-common unless I want it to? (even though a new package is available?) |
| 23:40 | eythian | sure |
| 23:41 | tcohen | dpk, you can put it on hold |
| 23:41 | eythian | yeah, that |
| 23:41 | wahanui | somebody said yeah, that was cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha... |
| 23:41 | eythian | we do that for things |
| 23:41 | you can manually override it quite happily, but if you don't, it won't autoupgrade | |
| 23:41 | rangi | pin |
| 23:42 | tcohen | dpk: for example echo "koha-common hold" | dpkg --set-selections |
| 23:42 | dpk | OK. got it. |
| 23:42 | eythian | tcohen: that's not the best way |
| 23:42 | tcohen | the only way you'd upgrade Koha is by doing it explicitly |
| 23:43 | pastebot | "eythian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "pinning packages" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/172 |
| 23:43 | dpk | Then I can set up a test system (on a separate machine) to test the new version and unhold when I am happy to move forward. |
| 23:43 | tcohen | eythian: that was my first googlesearch result |
| 23:43 | eythian | that's how I do it, and it means that you can do "apt-get install koha-common=3.16.01" whenever you want. |
| 23:43 | otherwise nothing will get upgraded | |
| 23:43 | (well, by nothing, I mean that koha-common won't get upgraded) | |
| 23:44 | dpk | Sounds good. |
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