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| Time | Nick | Message | 
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | tcohen | it is in 3.16.x | 
| 00:00 | dcook | Dinger :/ | 
| 00:00 | Still, good catch cait | |
| 00:13 | tcohen | is there a way to add a note on the login modal? | 
| 00:13 | (opac, bootstrap) | |
| 00:15 | dcook | Hmm | 
| 00:15 | We've done that locally | |
| 00:15 | * dcook | has been meaning to upstream that | 
| 00:17 | dcook | I wonder if blou's patch did it as well? | 
| 00:17 | Or if that was just for the landing page login area | |
| 00:19 | pianohacker | tcohen: jQuery should be able to do it, at least. The modals exist in the DOM before they're shown | 
| 00:19 | dcook | Totes an option as well | 
| 00:19 | tcohen | good idea pianohacker, thanks | 
| 00:20 | * dcook | occasionally ponders the idea of being user-friendly for librarians vs just getting it done | 
| 00:20 | dcook | Leaning more so to the latter more and more | 
| 00:21 | pianohacker | we're slowly building a patchwork way to do the opac 100% custom, bit by halting bit | 
| 00:23 | dcook | ? | 
| 00:23 | You mean sort of like... with widgets and such? | |
| 00:24 | To let users customize basically whatever they want in a sort of modular way? | |
| 00:35 | pianohacker | well, we might eventually get there | 
| 00:36 | but we're headed in that direction as it is, just in a kind of lurching way :) | |
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| 01:11 | eythian | @later tell kivilahtio I don't currently have a test server set up for it, you might be able to make some progress with the details on the bug. Got a migration in progress at the moment, will be back on ES when it's sorted :) | 
| 01:11 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. | 
| 01:12 | tcohen | hi eythian | 
| 01:14 | would an if (!Test::More version correct) skip work for you? as we do for dbd::mock? | |
| 01:18 | eythian | tcohen: I don't know | 
| 01:18 | oh | |
| 01:18 | hmm | |
| 01:18 | probably | |
| 01:18 | actually, it's a compile error | |
| 01:18 | so I bet it wouldn't. | |
| 01:21 | pianohacker | BEGIN block? | 
| 01:25 | tcohen | i'll just remove the subtest use | 
| 01:25 | i don't like removing it, because they help organizing the tests contexts | |
| 01:26 | pianohacker | would BEGIN { exit if ( $Test::More::VERSION < '1.0' ); } work? | 
| 01:26 | (for whatever version you need) | |
| 01:28 | tcohen | pianohacker: yes, but what would the point of having the tests be? | 
| 01:28 | we won't know if we broke something for squeeze... | |
| 01:29 | i'm not sure what is the best solution | |
| 01:30 | pianohacker | hmm | 
| 01:30 | rangi | eythian was looking into if it was possible to package test-simple (which contains test::more) and provide it at debian.koha-community.org for squeeze | 
| 01:38 | eythian | oh yes | 
| 01:39 | I can probably do that | |
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| 04:34 | dcook | I love that moment when you want to find a RDA record to import...and it's the first record you find ^_^ | 
| 04:34 | Hmm, I suppose it IS Tuesday. Would've been lovely if that would've been the case yesterday. | |
| 05:03 | Boo, addbiblio.pl | |
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| 05:14 | dcook | hey cait :) | 
| 05:14 | cait | hi dcook:) | 
| 05:14 | i just commented on the bug | |
| 05:16 | dcook | Mmm, yeah, I thought that might be the case | 
| 05:16 | (What you mention in your comment that is) | |
| 05:16 | That sucks that they don't send them out. Mind you...a print notice for a hold seems a bit silly too. | |
| 05:16 | By the time they get the notice, the hold may have expired. | |
| 05:18 | cait | and it costs to sendthem | 
| 05:19 | and koha can currently not charge postage fees automatically | |
| 05:19 | dcook | That too | 
| 05:19 | Although I suppose it depends on the library | |
| 05:19 | Most of my libraries could send them through internal mail I bet ;) | |
| 05:20 | cait | true | 
| 05:21 | dcook | I suppose the print notice can indicate to the librarian to use other means for getting in touch as well | 
| 05:21 | * dcook | shrugs | 
| 05:22 | cait | i think we should clean it up... but i'd stil like the old stuff to be working :) | 
| 05:22 | dcook | Which is that? | 
| 05:23 | cait | the overdues email! heh | 
| 05:23 | the new way is cleaner for overdues | |
| 05:23 | now the print notice is visible in the patron account | |
| 05:23 | before it was not | |
| 05:24 | but now you cannot automatically send them to the library... | |
| 05:24 | i want both :) | |
| 05:25 | dcook | Good luck :) | 
| 05:53 | Ahhhhh | |
| 05:54 | bulkmarcimport.pl, you're a tricksy duck with your incorrect documentation... | |
| 05:54 | And perhaps lack of validation... | |
| 05:55 | Well, at least I noticed after 60,000 records not 600,000... | |
| 05:55 | And this is why we're always glad that we do things in a test environment first. Mmmm, yes. | |
| 05:55 | Backups R the best | |
| 05:56 | cait | backups++ | 
| 05:56 | :) | |
| 05:56 | dcook | :D | 
| 05:56 | Chocolate would be even better right now though... | |
| 05:56 | cait | agreed | 
| 05:57 | dcook | Now that I've moved to a different desk, I need to outfit my work station with all the food | 
| 05:57 | cait | but i don't have any | 
| 05:57 | dcook | Me either :/ | 
| 05:57 | This is a perfect time to have a minion... | |
| 05:57 | Or a familiar | |
| 05:57 | I suppose the windows here don't open, so an owl would still be useless... | |
| 05:58 | cait | heh | 
| 06:01 | dcook | Huzzah! | 
| 06:01 | -keepids=035a | |
| 06:01 | Beautiful | |
| 06:03 | This whole having two monitors thing is pretty swag | |
| 06:03 | * dcook | wishes that he'd had them both for years | 
| 06:14 | cait | ah | 
| 06:14 | only got them now? | |
| 06:14 | dcook | Yeppers. I had a small desk for the past few years with just one monitor. | 
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| 06:40 | dcook | "For interchange purposes, documentation of the structure and use of the system control number must be provided to exchange partners by the originating organization." | 
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| 06:41 | dcook | It would be even better if your data documented its own structure... | 
| 06:41 | After all, I think everyone knows what this means: (CaBVaU)2835210335 | |
| 06:42 | MARC-- | |
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| 07:08 | cait | good morning #koha | 
| 07:08 | dcook | g'day cait, yohann, sophie_m | 
| 07:09 | sophie_m | hi dcook, cait | 
| 07:09 | hello #koha | |
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| 07:11 | cait | hi sophie_m and yohann | 
| 07:11 | yohann | |
| 07:11 | yohann++ i wanted to say :) | |
| 07:13 | yohann | hi dcook and cait | 
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| 07:16 | dcook | 631380 MARC records done in 4490.00470089912 seconds | 
| 07:16 | Not bad, Zebra | |
| 07:17 | fridolin | hie all | 
| 07:17 | dcook | Well, bulkmarcimport.pl | 
| 07:17 | Not sure about Zebra | |
| 07:17 | yo, fridolin | |
| 07:17 | * dcook | should take his leave soon... | 
| 07:17 | fridolin | hie dcook | 
| 07:17 | huge catalogue indeed | |
| 07:18 | dcook | That's just MeSH ;) | 
| 07:18 | fridolin | count several hours for zebra indexing | 
| 07:19 | dcook | Mmm, it would help if I had Zebra indexing turned on for this instance too...heh | 
| 07:22 | rangi | evening | 
| 07:22 | dcook | Whelp, needed to make lots of changes to do the record evening anyway... | 
| 07:22 | evening as in hello or goodbye, rangi? :p | |
| 07:23 | rangi | hello :) | 
| 07:23 | cait | evening rangi :) | 
| 07:23 | dcook | :D | 
| 07:27 | mtj | hie #koha | 
| 07:28 | cait | hi mtj :) | 
| 07:28 | nzers everywhere this morning! :) | |
| 07:30 | mtj | peeps, i need some advice on a koha oauth problem.. | 
| 07:32 | i need to be able to log out a koha user from google-oauth, using an authenticated token | |
| 07:32 | * dcook | perks up | 
| 07:32 | dcook | mtj: is google-oauth Oauth2.0? | 
| 07:32 | Actually, I'm 99% sure it is | |
| 07:32 | What's the question? | |
| 07:32 | wahanui | the question is probably "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" | 
| 07:33 | mtj | yeah oauth2 dcook :) | 
| 07:33 | my problem is, i dont quite know where the best place is, to *store* that token | |
| 07:33 | * dcook | wrote a local patch using OpenID Connect which is just a wrapper for Oauth2.0 | 
| 07:33 | dcook | Wait, what's the problem again? | 
| 07:33 | mtj | browser cookies or memcache are my only options, so far... | 
| 07:34 | dcook | When you log off of Google, you want them to also log off of Koha? | 
| 07:34 | Or vice versa? | |
| 07:34 | mtj | ^^ | 
| 07:34 | dcook | Mmm, yeah, I didn't get that far because the Oauth server I was working with wasn't set up that well | 
| 07:35 | mtj | i have found that Nick's orig. patch works well - but does not have any logout code | 
| 07:36 | on a public OPAC, many people could login/logout of koha... but never successfully log out from their google account | |
| 07:37 | so, the process to logout from google-oauth2 is simple (good) | |
| 07:38 | dcook | Is it revoking the token? | 
| 07:38 | mtj | ...but it requires knowing the user's 'id_token' | 
| 07:38 | yeah, thats it dcook :) | |
| 07:38 | dcook | Hmm | 
| 07:38 | Perhaps you could store it in their db session? | |
| 07:38 | mtj | soo... to revoke the token, we would need to store that token somewhere - to fetch it later | 
| 07:39 | dcook | Persona stores a "persona:1" flag for that purpose I think | 
| 07:39 | Well, persona:1 is to let Koha know that the person is logged in via Persona.. | |
| 07:39 | And that later is used to log off, I think | |
| 07:39 | rangi | it never logs you out of persona | 
| 07:40 | just koha | |
| 07:40 | dcook | Hmm, I thought I saw something about log outs as well? | 
| 07:40 | rangi | loggin you out of persona would be hella annoying | 
| 07:40 | you'd be logged out of a bunch of other stuff | |
| 07:40 | dcook | Admittedly, I was wondering a bit why a person would want to log out of Google as well | 
| 07:40 | rangi | same with google, log out of koha | 
| 07:40 | now i cant get my email | |
| 07:41 | dcook | mtj: Is the issue that the browser stays logged into Google? | 
| 07:41 | mtj | yes yes, i realise that not logging out of persona/oauth is also a feature too | 
| 07:41 | dcook | So that when they logout of Koha...someone else could login as them? | 
| 07:42 | mtj | dcook: yes ^^ | 
| 07:42 | dcook | I think that's the thing that I was thinking about | 
| 07:42 | In my case, they don't have a logout service, so you have to rely on people closing the browser which kills the session cookie for the Oauth server.. | |
| 07:42 | But...I better get running | |
| 07:42 | Good luck, mtj | |
| 07:42 | mtj | so for some cases - the behaviour is great | 
| 07:43 | dcook | I suppose you could have a prompt for that | 
| 07:43 | "Also log out of Google?" | |
| 07:43 | Although I don't think I've ever seen that on anything else that uses Oauth | |
| 07:43 | But yes, running along to my wife and all | |
| 07:43 | night folks | |
| 07:43 | mtj | for other cases (iNet cafes, OPACs) its potentailly a horrorshow | 
| 07:47 | rangi | yeah ive never seen it for any other oauth things | 
| 07:48 | mtj | hey rangi :) | 
| 07:48 | hmm, what you mean mean by 'it'? (sorry) | |
| 07:48 | rangi | logging out of a perhipheral service logging you out of the main one | 
| 07:49 | mtj | aaah | 
| 07:49 | yeah, its the common response to the Q on StackOverflow too | |
| 07:50 | but of course, SO is filled with web-programmers - not users :) | |
| 07:51 | rangi | i think its probably against the spec | 
| 07:51 | mtj | the situ i'm imagining is a OPAC using google-oauth2... | 
| 07:52 | ...at the end of the day someone goes to an OPAC, and types -> http://accounts.google.com/ | |
| 07:52 | rangi | the opac should kill the browser and reopen | 
| 07:53 | after each session | |
| 07:53 | mtj | ..and there are 10 currently logged-in users! | 
| 07:53 | rangi | just like they do at internet cafes | 
| 07:53 | all cookies should be flushed | |
| 07:53 | mtj | aaah, i hadnt thought of that one :) | 
| 07:53 | rangi | that way | 
| 07:54 | the user doesnt get home and go | |
| 07:54 | wtf why am i logged out of gmail now | |
| 07:55 | (if they are using a laptop, or something other than the opac) | |
| 07:55 | mtj | ...eep, i hadnt thought of that either :/ | 
| 07:55 | the revoked token is universal | |
| 07:55 | rangi | *nod* | 
| 07:56 | mtj | cool, thanks for the help chris :0) | 
| 07:57 | rangi | getting all cookies flushed will help if they forgot to log out of other stuff too | 
| 07:58 | probably should be good practice for all public machines .. dunno how many libraries do that though | |
| 07:59 | mtj | yeah | 
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| 08:12 | mtj | hmm, restarting the browser still leaves my user logged into google... | 
| 08:14 | (which i guess is to be expected, now i think about it) | |
| 08:14 | rangi | yeah it'd have to flush all cookies | 
| 08:15 | which closing doesnt do, only the ones marked session only | |
| 08:17 | or run the opac in incognito mode | |
| 08:18 | that would be pretty cool actually | |
| 08:18 | all the history goes too that way | |
| 08:21 | mtj | ah yes, i see all the google cookies now | 
| 08:48 | ta rangi - incognito mode seems to delete the google cookies | |
| 09:02 | cait | back | 
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| 11:44 | tcohen | hi | 
| 11:44 | @wunder cordoba, argentina | |
| 11:44 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 12.1°C (8:40 AM ART on August 05, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). | 
| 11:45 | cait | hi tcohen :) | 
| 11:47 | tcohen | hi cait | 
| 11:47 | the topics are fine | |
| 11:49 | cait | tcohen: can you chair today? | 
| 11:50 | tcohen | yes! | 
| 11:50 | cait | ok :) | 
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| 13:10 | indradg | Hi... I was playing around with the "Koha as CMS" instructions and I keep getting an error "Template process failed: file error - cssinclude: not found at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Templates.pm line 132." | 
| 13:12 | this happens whenever I set - template_name => "opac-main.tmpl" to "pages.tmpl" in the pages.pl (copy of opac-main.pl) | |
| 13:12 | this is on Koha 3.14.9 (deb package) | |
| 13:15 | using bootstrap theme | |
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| 13:21 | oleonard | indradg: The global footer for bootstrap OPAC pages includes a directive to process a [% BLOCK cssinclude %] | 
| 13:22 | indradg: You must include at least an empty [% BLOCK cssinclude %][% END %] in your template (usually after [% INCLUDE 'doc-head-close.inc' %] ) | |
| 13:23 | indradg: See opac-main.tt for an example | |
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| 13:33 | oleonard | indradg: Did you see my suggestions? | 
| 13:44 | indradg | oleonard: yes, and following your suggestion also additionally added one for jsinclude | 
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| 14:00 | indradg | oleonard: essentially a dumb question - why doesn't opac-main.tt seem to need these includes ? | 
| 14:01 | oleonard | Do you mean why doesn't opac-main.tt require anything /in/ those BLOCKs? | 
| 14:04 | pastebot | "indradg" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "[% USE Koha %] [% INCLUDE 'doc" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/140 | 
| 14:05 | indradg | oleonard: yes, from what i see, opac-main.tt do not seem to even have those blocks | 
| 14:06 | i'm sure, i'm missing something fairly elementary.... but what? | |
| 14:07 | oleonard | Are you sure you're looking at the bootstrap template? | 
| 14:07 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]243aadffdd186f60e | |
| 14:17 | * indradg | scratching head | 
| 14:18 | indradg | oleonard: I'm looking at /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-main.tt and my opacthemes syspref is set to 'bootstrap' | 
| 14:18 | oleonard | /opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-main.tt is the prog template. | 
| 14:20 | indradg | oleonard: thanks a bunch! i needed that cluestick! | 
| 14:20 | got it /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/modules/opac-main.tt | |
| 14:21 | oleonard | :) | 
| 14:24 | cait | oleonard++ thx for taaking a look at the bug | 
| 14:24 | i am nto sure if it was an accident - it seems former patches were much smaller, maybe some files were added by accident | |
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| 15:00 | tcohen | hi | 
| 15:00 | jwagner | hi | 
| 15:01 | is there a meeting now? My calendar had one listed. | |
| 15:02 | tcohen | there's a meeting starting | 
| 15:02 | in about | |
| 15:02 | 2 minutes | |
| 15:02 | jwagner | ok, thanks | 
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| 15:04 | tcohen | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting, 5 August 2014 (part 1) | 
| 15:04 | huginn | Meeting started Tue Aug 5 15:04:25 2014 UTC. The chair is tcohen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 
| 15:04 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 15:04 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 5 August 2014 (part 1)) | |
| 15:04 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting__5_august_2014__part_1_' | 
| 15:04 | tcohen | #topic Introductions (please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes) | 
| 15:04 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 5 August 2014 (part 1)) | |
| 15:05 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Universidad Nacional de Cordoba | 
| 15:05 | please, don't flood the IRC with your presentations | |
| 15:05 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ - not quite here | 
| 15:05 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City - [dead drive today] | 
| 15:06 | Guest4884 | #info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS | 
| 15:06 | tcohen | ok, two T{h}omas and a Katrina :-D | 
| 15:06 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries | 
| 15:06 | tcohen | hi Jane | 
| 15:07 | ok, moving on | |
| 15:07 | #topic RM 3.18 comments | |
| 15:07 | Topic for #koha is now RM 3.18 comments (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 5 August 2014 (part 1)) | |
| 15:07 | tcohen | tcohen: all yours | 
| 15:07 | thanks | |
| 15:08 | #info tcohen asked Chris Cormack to take care of integrating PROG/CCSR deprecation patches | |
| 15:08 | cait | rangi++ | 
| 15:09 | tcohen | #info tcohen provided a first approach to unit tests for LDAP-related code on bug 8148 | 
| 15:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8148 critical, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Signed Off , ldap authentication should FAIL if ldap contains NEW password, and user types the PREVIOUS password | 
| 15:09 | tcohen | #info feedback on that is needed, urgently | 
| 15:09 | cait | tcohen++ too :) | 
| 15:10 | tcohen | #info RM is concerned about the lack of unit tests in some important bugs, he will continue to help write those tests for people not used to it | 
| 15:10 | JesseM | #info Jesse Maseto, ByWater Solutions | 
| 15:11 | tcohen | questions? comments? | 
| 15:11 | feedback on how to deal with this is really welcome | |
| 15:12 | ok, moving on | |
| 15:13 | i'll add a topic that is not in the agenda, but is small | |
| 15:13 | #topic KohaCon14 update | |
| 15:13 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon14 update (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 5 August 2014 (part 1)) | |
| 15:13 | tcohen | #info the kohacon page will be updated tomorrow with more information | 
| 15:13 | NateC | #info Nate Curulla ByWater | 
| 15:14 | tcohen | #info tcohen makes a call for atendees and people making presentqations on kohacon | 
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| 15:14 | cait | just about 2 monhts now :) | 
| 15:15 | tcohen | #info tcohen makes a call for people to register | 
| 15:15 | ^^^^ that was | |
| 15:15 | ok, moving on | |
| 15:15 | #topic Additions to Coding Guidelines | |
| 15:15 | Topic for #koha is now Additions to Coding Guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 5 August 2014 (part 1)) | |
| 15:15 | bgkriegel | #info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel, late | 
| 15:16 | tcohen | the idea was to discuss an addition to coding guidelines asking new dependencies (like jquery plugins) to be added to the about section | 
| 15:16 | cait? | |
| 15:16 | wahanui | cait: go to bed | 
| 15:17 | cait | ah sorry | 
| 15:17 | tcohen | can u comment on the proposal for the coding guidelines? | 
| 15:17 | cait | not sure it has to go into the coding guidelines | 
| 15:17 | but maybe a small reminder | |
| 15:18 | if we add a new jquery library/plugin or similar | |
| 15:18 | tcohen | ok | 
| 15:18 | cait | we should also add a line to about.pl with the license | 
| 15:18 | edveal | #info Ed Veal ByWater | 
| 15:18 | cait | i think some might be missing currently | 
| 15:19 | tcohen | cait: is there a bug report for that? | 
| 15:19 | cait | not yet - i am not sure there are, it's more a guess right now | 
| 15:20 | tcohen | #action Katrin volunteers to fill a bug on missing lines in about.pl for external libs | 
| 15:20 | cait | hey... | 
| 15:20 | :) | |
| 15:20 | tcohen | :-P | 
| 15:20 | ok, moving on | |
| 15:20 | cait | if i find one that is, i will | 
| 15:20 | tcohen | great | 
| 15:20 | #topic DBIC | |
| 15:20 | Topic for #koha is now DBIC (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 5 August 2014 (part 1)) | |
| 15:21 | tcohen | The key point on discussing DBIC is that people has expressed some lack of information on how to use | 
| 15:21 | I personally find it relevant, as we are promoting its wide adoption | |
| 15:22 | #link Example usage of DBIC http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s_of_DBIC_in_Koha | |
| 15:23 | if anyone finds some time to contribute to that, we will all benefit | |
| 15:23 | some "best practices" should be discussed and added there | |
| 15:23 | maybe some things that should be avoided when coding using DBIC | |
| 15:23 | cait | i think one of the poitns people are unsure about | 
| 15:24 | is if we can use DBIC in pl files | |
| 15:24 | or only in .pm | |
| 15:24 | tcohen | in my opinion, we should only use it on .pm | 
| 15:26 | another thing that confuses people is what is the workflow for adding new relations to Koha::Schema::Result:* | |
| 15:26 | it happened to me, and Joubu asked the same a while ago | |
| 15:27 | when you need to make a JOIN operation on tables that don't have explicit foreign key constrains, you cannot do it on DBIC | |
| 15:27 | unless you define a new relation | |
| 15:28 | those should be added to the bottom of the files (the rest of the file is auto-generated) | |
| 15:28 | it'd be great to have galen or kyle to discuss this | |
| 15:28 | but, it is possible that in that situation we should evaluate if the constrain should be defined, instead of adding the new relation | |
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| 15:29 | tcohen | an example where there aren't some foreign key constrains is on deleted_* tables | 
| 15:29 | if you want to make a join on those tables, DBIC fails | |
| 15:30 | #action tcohen will promote this discussion on the development list | |
| 15:30 | ok, moving on? | |
| 15:30 | cait | khall_away gmcharlt ... :) | 
| 15:30 | maybe we could have a dbic tutorial? | |
| 15:31 | tcohen | maybe on the hackfest? | 
| 15:31 | cait | that's an idea too :) | 
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| 15:31 | tcohen | ok, moving on (lunch time approaching) | 
| 15:32 | #topic Bugs | |
| 15:32 | Topic for #koha is now Bugs (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 5 August 2014 (part 1)) | |
| 15:32 | thd | maybe someone could record such things even in the hackfest for those of us who may be unable to afford the fare to Argentina. | 
| 15:32 | tcohen | thd: that's a great idea | 
| 15:32 | bgkriegel | good idea | 
| 15:32 | tcohen | i'll try to make it happen with bgkriegel | 
| 15:34 | any comment about specific bugs? | |
| 15:34 | bgkriegel? cait? jwagner? NateC? | |
| 15:34 | oleonard? | |
| 15:34 | wahanui | oleonard is, like, still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer | 
| 15:34 | tcohen | we know wahanui | 
| 15:34 | bgkriegel | not for me | 
| 15:34 | cait | tcohen: not right now | 
| 15:35 | oleonard | Nothing from me | 
| 15:36 | jwagner | sorry, nothing from me | 
| 15:36 | tcohen | oleonard: do u need help on the PROG/CCSR deprecation patches? | 
| 15:37 | i'd like to mention bug 12716, for which I'd like to hear comments | |
| 15:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12716 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Import patrons form should have drop-downs for some values | 
| 15:38 | tcohen | i wanted to make it possible to have dropdowns for values that have foreign key constrains, and would fail an import | 
| 15:38 | should it be still possible to type on those? | |
| 15:38 | i have a working patch about to be attached | |
| 15:38 | objections? | |
| 15:39 | * tcohen | hoped nicole was around | 
| 15:39 | cait | no objections from me | 
| 15:39 | pull downs should be ok | |
| 15:40 | bag | morning | 
| 15:40 | wahanui | rumour has it morning is a state of the cait | 
| 15:40 | tcohen | hi bag+ | 
| 15:40 | bag | nengard is right here | 
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| 15:40 | bag | tcohen: grabbing nengard right now | 
| 15:40 | tcohen | i wanted some feedback from the end-user pov, that's why i mentioned nengard | 
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| 15:41 | nengard | #info Nicole C. Engard, ByWater Solutions | 
| 15:41 | khall | #info Kyle Hall, ByWater Solutions | 
| 15:41 | bag | #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater | 
| 15:41 | nengard | I like the idea of bug 12716 it will eliminate errors | 
| 15:41 | bag | sorry we are late :) | 
| 15:42 | nengard | allowing people to type in fields that have to be exact matches to codes can be problematic | 
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| 15:42 | nengard | most end users like the idea of pull downs over the freedom to type (and make mistakes) | 
| 15:43 | * oleonard | wishes the stage MARC import tool reported errors related to invalid authorized values | 
| 15:43 | tcohen | oleonard: fill abug for that! | 
| 15:43 | nengard: http://snag.gy/mLZhO.jpg | |
| 15:43 | i added datepickers to dates, and dropdown to those two fields | |
| 15:44 | nengard | tcohen me likey! | 
| 15:44 | tcohen | it is wip, and the visualization would be that with the greyed table column | 
| 15:44 | bag | tcohen: that’s a lot of open tabs there | 
| 15:44 | cait | tcohen: there is one for invaid branchcodes i think | 
| 15:45 | tcohen | bag: hell yeah, need to work on that with the shrink | 
| 15:45 | bag | :) | 
| 15:45 | thd | Dropdowns should not need to depend on JavaScript where invoking yet more JavaScript can be avoided. | 
| 15:46 | tcohen | thd: they don't in my implementation | 
| 15:46 | * oleonard | sprinkles JavaScript liberally over the staff client | 
| 15:47 | tcohen | ^^^^ that's also true | 
| 15:47 | * thd | hopes for the day that the staff client will work well in lynx. | 
| 15:47 | tcohen | thd: links2 has javascript :-P | 
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| 15:49 | tcohen | ok, moving on | 
| 15:49 | #topic Big stuff we are working on | |
| 15:49 | Topic for #koha is now Big stuff we are working on (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 5 August 2014 (part 1)) | |
| 15:49 | thd | tcohen: JavaScript was removed from even links2 because the implementation had too many bugs for too many use cases. | 
| 15:50 | tcohen | oh | 
| 15:50 | anyone wants to comment on their current projects right now? | |
| 15:51 | ok, skipped then :-d | |
| 15:51 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 15:51 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting, 5 August 2014 (part 1)) | |
| 15:53 | tcohen | i propose next meeting is August 19th, same time (part 1 15:00 UTC, part 2 22:00 UTC) | 
| 15:53 | thd | +1 | 
| 15:53 | tcohen | as it is vacation in several places there might not be many atendees | 
| 15:54 | if there are no objections, i will put it as agreed | |
| 15:54 | jwagner | +1 | 
| 15:54 | tcohen | +1 | 
| 15:54 | bag | +1 | 
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| 15:55 | tcohen | ok | 
| 15:55 | #agreed if part 2 agrees, next dev meeting is August 19th (part 1 15:00 UTC, part 2 22:00 UTC) | |
| 15:56 | ok, that's all folks | |
| 15:56 | #endmeeting | |
| 15:56 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.16.2 is available! Next general meeting is 13 and 14 August 2014 at 22:00 and 15:00 UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org. Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes. | |
| 15:56 | huginn | Meeting ended Tue Aug 5 15:56:13 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 
| 15:56 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-08-05-15.04.html | |
| 15:56 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]4-08-05-15.04.txt | |
| 15:56 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]05-15.04.log.html | |
| 15:56 | tcohen | thanks everyone | 
| 15:57 | thd | tcohen: What would be done in case of lack of consensus between the two parts? | 
| 15:58 | jwagner | I thought that was handled by an arm-wrestling match | 
| 15:59 | thd | jwagner: Have you ever arm wrestled over IRC? | 
| 15:59 | * jcamins | is undefeated IRC arm wrestling champ. | 
| 16:00 | jcamins | You can tell because I get an @ sign in front of my nick. | 
| 16:10 | jwagner | thd, you haven't heard of virtual reality??? | 
| 16:12 | bag | I think I am undefeated too (but I’ve never tried) - so does that count? | 
| 16:12 | * bag | doesn’t think he could beat the champ jcamins though | 
| 16:18 | oleonard | Since we don't know what would happen if there was a lack of consensus between the two meetings I guess I'll have to attend the other one and sow dischord | 
| 16:20 | jwagner | Probably better than sewing discards would be.... | 
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| 16:26 | * jwagner | goes off to hide in a corner now.... | 
| 16:28 | druthb | oleonard++ #creating dissention. | 
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| 16:41 | quocuy | HI every one | 
| 16:41 | Hi @rangi again. | |
| 16:43 | I follow this turotial http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_as_a_CMS. Works perfectly. I created new page, which displayed in opacmainuserblock. | |
| 16:45 | But how do i remove the right-nav and make new page full (opacmainuser+right-nav)? | |
| 16:48 | I did remove <div id="opacrightsidebar" class="container">[% OpacNavRight %]</div> in the /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/pages.tt | |
| 16:48 | but it still left the blank right-nav there, the new page not scale full width | |
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| 18:00 | ckindley | Hi folks. Question: I'm to the point where I am ready to use the Koha web installer, but the MySQL database is empty. What's the best way to populate the schema with the appropriate tables? | 
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| 18:02 | druthb | ckindley: Run the web installer. It does that. | 
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| 18:04 | ckindley | druthb: No, it does not (at least in my instance). It logs errors like "install.pl: DBD::mysql::db selectrow_array failed: Table 'koha.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 563." | 
| 18:07 | druthb | Very peculiar—it is *supposed* to. | 
| 18:08 | ckindley | Ehh, well, the debian instructions specify to run koha-create --create-db before using the web installer | 
| 18:08 | * ckindley | runs Gentoo. Sigh. | 
| 18:08 | druthb | Ah. | 
| 18:13 | tcohen | ckindley: need to follow source installs, not .deb install | 
| 18:14 | * ckindley | was not following the debian install. | 
| 18:22 | jcamins | ckindley: that error is to be expected. Did you click next? | 
| 18:23 | ckindley | jcamins: Yes, but nothing happened. That's why I was working off of those errors. woops :( | 
| 18:24 | jcamins | ckindley: and you waited? It takes an appreciable length of time. Depending on your system, it's not unheard of for the connection to time out at that point. | 
| 18:24 | ckindley | jcamins: Yeah. The browser does indicate that it is awaiting a response, but then the notification disappears. | 
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| 18:55 | jcamins | ckindley: you may have figured this out on your own, but if it's just a matter of the long-running import process, if you try the installer again you should be able to get to the next step by clicking next a few times. | 
| 18:57 | quocuy | Hi everyone | 
| 18:58 | i finished this tutorial http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_as_a_CMS | |
| 18:59 | how do i edit the pages.tt file to clean up the right-navigation to make test-page wider. I remove right-navigation, then it left blank there | |
| 19:01 | jcamins | quocuy: at a guess, you need to change the width of the main block, for example changing span7/span9 to span12. | 
| 19:01 | quocuy | in the system preferences/local use? | 
| 19:03 | opacmainuser has width 100%. When i removed the left-navigation, it goes to full body page | |
| 19:03 | but when i keep left navigation, remove the right-nav, there are blank space in the right | |
| 19:03 | jcamins | In your pages.tt file. | 
| 19:04 | But remember this is a complete guess. | |
| 19:04 | I haven't tried using Koha as a CMS. | |
| 19:05 | quocuy | ok, there is no thing like span7/span9 in pages.tt. I'm trying to make a news page site, which includes all news | 
| 19:06 | we don't need to remove old one to display new one | |
| 19:06 | jcamins | Oh, are you using prog? | 
| 19:06 | You'll need to figure out the appropriate yui classes to use. | |
| 19:07 | quocuy | yes, i'm using prog | 
| 19:07 | jcamins | Yeah, in that case it's just a matter of figuring out the right YUI class to use. | 
| 19:08 | pianohacker | quocuy: check out http://yui.github.io/yui2/docs[…]2.9.0_full/grids/ | 
| 19:08 | jcamins | I don't know if there is any documentation for such an old version of YUI, but Yahoo's site might be worth a try. | 
| 19:08 | quocuy | ok, let me try more. I'm newbie about this | 
| 19:09 | pianohacker | Ahh, YUI. Check out how strangely arbitrary the column sizes are... | 
| 19:10 | jcamins | pianohacker: it's not arbitrary. It's, it's... | 
| 19:10 | it's... | |
| 19:10 | it's... | |
| 19:10 | endearingly quirky? | |
| 19:10 | pianohacker | jcamins: That's what we tell ourselves MARC is so we can sleep at night | 
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| 19:17 | quocuy | jcamins, can u check this file for me please | 
| 19:17 | i just want to remove right-nav, but not leave the blank space there. | |
| 19:19 | jcamins | quocuy: I cannot, no, sorry. | 
| 19:19 | I have not done this, and I don't use YUI. | |
| 20:11 | ckindley | Ok, I'm stumped. So, clicking "Next" on the first step of the web installer does nothing. Here' | 
| 20:11 | Here's the logfile: http://bpaste.net/show/563161/ | |
| 20:11 | cait | hm which mysql version? | 
| 20:12 | did youcreate a database? | |
| 20:12 | ckindley | cait: 5.5.37, yes | 
| 20:12 | * ckindley | will note, we're running Gentoo here. So I expected this to be bumpy. | 
| 20:13 | cait | not sure, are you using pacages or trying a tarball installation? | 
| 20:13 | ckindley | tarball | 
| 20:13 | pianohacker | ckindley: at this point it might be easier to import kohastructure.sql yourself | 
| 20:14 | jcamins | What version of Perl? | 
| 20:14 | ckindley | 5.18.2 | 
| 20:14 | jcamins | Right, figured that out as soon as I hit enter. | 
| 20:14 | Sorry, I'm tired. | |
| 20:14 | cait | could it be the caching? | 
| 20:14 | jcamins | pianohacker: yeah, I was thinking that. | 
| 20:14 | ckindley | I'll check the sql out. | 
| 20:15 | jcamins | I'm wondering about the Premature end of script headers. | 
| 20:15 | ckindley: are you certain you have all the requirements? | |
| 20:15 | pianohacker | ckindley: mysql -u root -p koha < installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql # Assuming you're accessing the database as root and your database is called koha | 
| 20:15 | jcamins | Wait a minute... | 
| 20:16 | ckindley | jcamins: Nope! | 
| 20:16 | I'm almost entirely certain I am missing something. hah | |
| 20:16 | cait | mveron++ | 
| 20:16 | jcamins | "Subroutine C4::Context::confess redefined" (etc.) | 
| 20:16 | ckindley: in that case, step one is to find out what. | |
| 20:17 | ckindley | Getting all the perl modules was a bit of a chore. I guess I need help figuring out what I may have missed. Perl is all too new to me, unfortunately. | 
| 20:17 | jcamins | `perl koha_perl_deps.pl -m` | 
| 20:17 | pianohacker | yes yes that | 
| 20:17 | wahanui | yes that is the cause of the problem | 
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| 20:21 | ckindley | perl deps script output: http://bpaste.net/show/563213/ | 
| 20:23 | So the redefined subroutines - are these some badly-behaving modules? I worry about what I've pulled from the portage tree interfering with modules I've installed directly from cpan | |
| 20:23 | cait | ugh | 
| 20:24 | cas is optional | |
| 20:24 | but the output looks not right | |
| 20:24 | i think | |
| 20:24 | pianohacker? | |
| 20:24 | wahanui | I HATE XML | 
| 20:25 | jcamins | Whoah. | 
| 20:25 | That's the output from koha_perl_deps? | |
| 20:25 | ckindley | Aye. | 
| 20:25 | tcohen | ckindley: that looks like something is really wrong | 
| 20:25 | pianohacker | what the hell? | 
| 20:25 | jcamins | Ummm... well done, you managed to come up with a new and creative way to explode things? :P | 
| 20:26 | tcohen | ckindley: do u have the stock perl install that comes with Gentoo? | 
| 20:26 | pianohacker | cait: you were the last person to cause a segfault, this is your fault | 
| 20:26 | cait | was i? | 
| 20:26 | jcamins | I think there's a way to get it to print every command it's running. | 
| 20:26 | pianohacker | cait: remember pazpar2? | 
| 20:27 | ah! | |
| 20:27 | ckindley: http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]egmentation-fault | |
| 20:27 | jcamins: ^ what you were thinking of? | |
| 20:27 | cait | pianohacker: | 
| 20:27 | .. | |
| 20:28 | pianohacker: as you are here... you love riddles, do you? | |
| 20:28 | jcamins | That's the one. | 
| 20:28 | cait | don't you... even | 
| 20:28 | pianohacker | cait: I work on MARC for a living | 
| 20:28 | so yes | |
| 20:28 | cait | i have a koha installation | 
| 20:28 | that does 2 searches, when you search for a word | |
| 20:28 | i found it becasue they complained about 2 entries for each search in the search history | |
| 20:28 | and i have no idea how it could happen | |
| 20:29 | custom javascript can be ruled out | |
| 20:29 | as it still happens when you turn javascript off | |
| 20:29 | and i have no idea where to look | |
| 20:29 | pianohacker | what version of Koha? | 
| 20:30 | cait | 3.12.9 i think | 
| 20:30 | it's customized, but i don't see how xslt and additonal indexes could cause this | |
| 20:31 | * tcohen | was so happy when used gentoo... | 
| 20:31 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha cait pianohacker jcamins tcohen ckindley | 
| 20:31 | cait | hi mtompset | 
| 20:31 | pianohacker: ah and to make it more puzzling - i have another installation running on the same code.. where it doesn't happen | |
| 20:33 | any hints/ideas? | |
| 20:33 | pianohacker | cait: can duplicate at least | 
| 20:33 | ckindley | Thanks, fellows. I'm not giving this one up! Let's see. | 
| 20:33 | cait | good luck ckindley - i can not help much, but cross fingers at least :) | 
| 20:33 | tcohen | ckindley: good luck | 
| 20:33 | ckindley | tcohen: Yeah, portage perl | 
| 20:34 | pianohacker | cait: The immediate strange thing is that the two history entries are spaced three seconds apart | 
| 20:34 | do you see two entries in the access log? | |
| 20:34 | cait | yep | 
| 20:34 | * tcohen | remembers filling the bug for completing Koha's Perl depedencies in portage | 
| 20:34 | cait | you can see it with firebug too | 
| 20:34 | pianohacker | cait: my IP is 97.122.182.196 | 
| 20:34 | cait | i can't access the access logs of that server | 
| 20:35 | but if youlook at networks in firebug or with the life headers plugin you see hat it does indeed 2 requests | |
| 20:35 | 2 searches... | |
| 20:35 | not on | |
| 20:35 | e | |
| 20:35 | pianohacker | what on earth... yes you can | 
| 20:35 | * cait | nods | 
| 20:35 | cait | help! | 
| 20:36 | * talljoy | thinks pianohackers brain was blown | 
| 20:36 | talljoy | ;-) | 
| 20:36 | pianohacker | yes indeed! | 
| 20:36 | cait | mine is too | 
| 20:37 | i got no idea how to even start to track this down | |
| 20:37 | and of course.. in my dev environment i can't replicate | |
| 20:37 | it only appears on this system so far - if it's some configuration difference, i haven't found it yet | |
| 20:38 | * ckindley | may not have run perl-cleaner since his last perl update... Always forget that one. | 
| 20:38 | pianohacker | cait: it's not just opac-search.pl, at least | 
| 20:39 | cait | so this is good? :) | 
| 20:39 | jcamins | Ooh! | 
| 20:39 | Idea! | |
| 20:39 | What version of HTTP is being used? | |
| 20:40 | cait | can you explain that a bit more? | 
| 20:40 | i can't log onto the server unfortunately... so i will have to check tomorrow if we can't figure it out from the opac | |
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| 20:41 | tcohen | datepicker usage example? | 
| 20:42 | jcamins | With HTTP 1.0, all requests get a new connection. With HTTP 1.1, multiple requests share a connection. I'm wondering if this could be the result of some sort of reconnection thing. | 
| 20:42 | (what kind of thing I don't know) | |
| 20:42 | cait | tcohen: hm? | 
| 20:43 | tcohen | cait: nevermind, just wanted a default config for jquery datepicker (localization, format, etc) | 
| 20:43 | and found that calendar.inc sets everything I need | |
| 20:43 | cait | yep | 
| 20:43 | oleonard++ :) | |
| 20:44 | pianohacker | cait: I think I found it! | 
| 20:44 | cait | you'll be my hero | 
| 20:44 | pianohacker | in your CSS, under #header-wrapper | 
| 20:44 | background-image: url(""); | |
| 20:45 | jcamins | Oof. | 
| 20:45 | cait | the css??? | 
| 20:45 | wahanui | the css is probably probably easier | 
| 20:45 | pianohacker | this was my clue: http://www.nczonline.net/blog/[…]estroy-your-site/ | 
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| 20:45 | cait | i will try it | 
| 20:46 | sad i can't right now | |
| 20:46 | hmwait maybe i can | |
| 20:46 | hmmm if it#s in the css file i can't... | |
| 20:47 | pianohacker | cait: oh jeez it's in #cartmenulink:before too | 
| 20:47 | cait: It looks like it's coming through as opacusercss | |
| 20:47 | cait | so what would be the working way to remove a background image? | 
| 20:48 | pianohacker | background: none; | 
| 20:48 | or background-image: none; | |
| 20:49 | cait, I spoke too soon, it's also in lorsch.css... you'll have to do a lot of find and replace | |
| 20:49 | cait | hmm | 
| 20:49 | pianohacker | firebug++ | 
| 20:49 | cait | i wonder | 
| 20:49 | i guess that shoudl be in the other installation too then | |
| 20:49 | so wonde rif it can be really the source | |
| 20:54 | pianohacker: removed the one in opacusercss | |
| 20:54 | no change | |
| 20:57 | pianohacker++ pianohacker++ pianohacker++ | |
| 20:57 | now go and work an rancor! hehe | |
| 20:57 | pianohacker | hehehe can do! | 
| 20:57 | css-- | |
| 20:57 | css++ | |
| 20:58 | tcohen | http://snag.gy/gtKuh.jpg | 
| 21:01 | pianohacker | oh cool translation | 
| 21:01 | cait | tcohen++ | 
| 21:02 | someone without karma still? :) | |
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| 22:04 | mtompset | Have a good day, #koha. | 
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| 22:19 | eythian | hi | 
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| 22:55 | eythian | hi | 
| 22:55 | wahanui | hey, eythian | 
| 22:55 | eythian | wait, already said that | 
| 22:57 | pianohacker | hi eythian | 
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| 23:02 | tcohen | part 2 of the dev meeting didn't take place, right? | 
| 23:02 | rangi | nope | 
| 23:02 | didnt even know it was on | |
| 23:02 | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings <-- not here | |
| 23:03 | tcohen | heh | 
| 23:03 | *what is that list* ? | |
| 23:03 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng,_5_August_2014 | |
| 23:04 | rangi | the best way to make a agenda page is to start on the IRC_Meetings page and make the link :) | 
| 23:05 | tcohen | :/ | 
| 23:06 | rangi | i usually check that page every week or so, to make sure i dont miss meetings, i was all, oh nothing until next week hehe | 
| 23:06 | reading back | |
| 23:06 | i dont think id have anythign to add anyway | |
| 23:06 | tcohen | to me, wiki's categories are as broken as the hardcoded use of possibly non-existent authorised values categories | 
| 23:07 | rangi | yeah i dont really use the categories | 
| 23:07 | tcohen | i have to say i never created a dev meeting's page, will as kcait for help | 
| 23:07 | rangi | what i do, is cut and paste from an existing one | 
| 23:08 | so i make a link on that irc_meetings page | |
| 23:08 | then click on it, thus making an empty page | |
| 23:08 | tcohen | i learnt that for road types koha's code checks for the existence of a specially crafted authorised value category | 
| 23:08 | rangi | and paste in a previous agenda, and then edit it | 
| 23:08 | tcohen | rangi: will try next time | 
| 23:08 | rangi | sweet | 
| 23:08 | looks like was a good turnout of the meeting | |
| 23:08 | the first one | |
| 23:08 | wahanui | the first one is the easiest, but you can't do anything very interesting with it | 
| 23:09 | tcohen | looking at the logs? | 
| 23:09 | rangi | yep | 
| 23:10 | tcohen | ah yes, because you were absent, you have homework :-P | 
| 23:10 | rangi | heh | 
| 23:10 | linked in the meeting to that page now | |
| 23:10 | ill add the minutes to it | |
| 23:15 | tcohen | thanks rangi | 
| 23:28 | rangi | i wonder if anyone is blogging the koha na user group meeting thingy | 
| 23:30 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11331 - CSV export for viewlog.pl is missing newlines - followup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4d4caaae9bd87d4e0> / Bug 11331 - CSV export for viewlog.pl is missing newlines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e8de60a87962094e6> / Bug 12660:Correct mispelling of accomodate in comments <http://git.koha-community. | 
| 23:35 | * dcook | is confused as to whether or not there was a meeting | 
| 23:36 | rangi | the meetings all come in 2 parts now | 
| 23:36 | part 1 happened, part 2 didnt | |
| 23:50 | tcohen | dcook: something you'd like to discuss? :-D | 
| 23:52 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12597 - Give better visual indication of currently-selected language in the staff... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]39e6c9a2ebe860f6a> / Bug 8521 - Error in warning message when deleting list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d654dcc3e404e34f0> / Bug 12619 - Shipment date gets lost on finishing and/or editing t | 
| 23:54 | dcook | rangi: Was part 2 supposed to happen? | 
| 23:54 | It's usually when I'm sleeping/showering, so I never know.. | |
| 23:54 | tcohen: Not that I can think of :/ | |
| 23:55 | rangi | dcook: i forgot it was on | 
| 23:56 | dcook | rangi: Were you going to chair it? | 
| 23:56 | tcohen | it was at 22:00 UTC | 
| 23:56 | dcook | So it actually happened two hours ago? | 
| 23:56 | Or was supposed to happen? | |
| 23:57 | rangi | it would have yeah, but there was pretty much no one here, cos i was at the drs | 
| 23:57 | dcook | Mmm | 
| 23:57 | rangi | plus, i read the log now, dont have anythign to add | 
| 23:57 | dcook | Yeah, I just popped open the log | 
| 23:58 | tcohen | anyone commented on 111244? | 
| 23:59 | rangi | only you, me, dcook and cait | 
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