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03:42 | dcook | Another day...another IE bug. |
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04:31 | cait | dcook: ? |
04:32 | dcook: it's my secret super power.... just search the word from simple search, and hit f5 repeatedly | |
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04:43 | cait | and noone is here... :) |
05:01 | dcook | I was eating :) |
05:01 | Hmm, I'll give the F5 approach a shot | |
05:02 | * dcook | tries to recall the bug number |
05:02 | dcook | bug 10542 |
05:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10542 critical, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , QueryParser + OpacSuppression doesn't allow search in 'all libraries' |
05:02 | cait | i can check again later, but not right now |
05:02 | i tried it various times... it's really weird | |
05:03 | dcook | It sounds really weird :S |
05:03 | cait | i agree |
05:03 | dcook | Just searching for "der", eh? |
05:05 | Hmm, I seem to be getting weird results now when I try it too.. | |
05:05 | * dcook | hunts some more |
05:05 | dcook | Weird being...hidden stuff ain't stayin' hidden |
05:05 | Oh, because I'm using the intranet and not the opac | |
05:05 | drr | |
05:06 | cait | der is a german article |
05:06 | guess you' dhave to search for the or some other word that appears multiple times in your records | |
05:06 | dcook | Yep |
05:06 | I'm using "a" | |
05:06 | Looks all right.. | |
05:06 | Maybe I need more records.. | |
05:07 | cait | hm i just retested |
05:07 | dcook | I get 4 out of 5 as I should each time |
05:07 | cait | it still happens |
05:07 | i entered der | |
05:08 | 33 = correct | |
05:08 | then put the cursor into the search field, hit enter again | |
05:08 | 21 | |
05:08 | again 21 | |
05:08 | again - no resuls | |
05:08 | dcook | I wonder.. |
05:08 | Ok, that's the really weird part | |
05:08 | cait | 21 |
05:09 | onw looks like it stabilized itself to 33 | |
05:09 | ah wrong... now it pulled up that record again - number 79 | |
05:09 | dcook | I almost wonder if it's a weird cache issue |
05:10 | But that probably doesn't make sense | |
05:10 | cait | it's so weird... i couldn't pass qa |
05:10 | dcook | I'd be curious to see if the same query is being sent each time |
05:10 | cait | if you help me with the command i can show you |
05:10 | dcook | And then try to duplicate those results using yaz-client |
05:10 | Hmm? | |
05:10 | cait | we need zebra running in the foreground? |
05:11 | but i have to get ready for work. hm. | |
05:11 | dcook | No worries. This can wait :) |
05:11 | Maybe I'll try a sandbox as well... | |
05:12 | Then again...maybe the sandboxes don't work like I recall... | |
05:13 | Maybe not | |
05:13 | Guess it won't work anyway | |
05:15 | cait: Actually, if you could send me a MARC dump of your DB, I could upload it into mine and see if I can duplicate your results | |
05:15 | Another time, of course :) | |
05:15 | cait | i am not sure if it's that easy |
05:15 | i guess maybe configuration side there is something wrong too | |
05:15 | dcook | Yeah, it probably isn't that easy |
05:16 | The inconsistency really surprises me :/ | |
05:16 | cait | maybe see if someone can replicate |
05:16 | yeah me as well | |
05:17 | dcook | I think a good bet would be trying to figure out what query is being generated each time |
05:17 | Because if the query is the same each time...then it has to be an issue with Zebra/Zebra's configuration | |
05:17 | Or... | |
05:17 | How the records are being returned and processed | |
05:18 | But that's why I'm thinking we try to see what query is output each time; if it's the same, run it multiple times in yaz-client | |
05:18 | cait | makes sense |
05:18 | dcook | Or skip the yaz-client stage, and if the query is the same each time, just analyze what Koha does with what it receives from Zebra (checking the count/contents of records as well) |
05:21 | eythian | hi |
05:21 | dcook | yo eythian |
05:21 | eythian | I finally get my lunch |
05:21 | which is now a bit soggy | |
05:21 | dcook | :( |
05:22 | Mmm, actually, cait. I was surprised that you used the URL http://localhost/cgi-bin/koha/[…]rch.pl?idx=&q=der | |
05:23 | Usually, I would have "http://localhost/cgi-bin/koha/[…]c-search.pl?q=der" without the empty "idx=" | |
05:23 | Not that it should make a difference | |
05:23 | cait | hm let me try again |
05:23 | bootstrap? | |
05:23 | dcook | Yep |
05:23 | cait | opac start page |
05:23 | dcook | Mhm |
05:23 | cait | simple search |
05:23 | wahanui | simple search is what would benefit staff most...do a quick search and quickly eyeball facets to see "who has how many of what" |
05:23 | cait | http://localhost/cgi-bin/koha/[…]rch.pl?idx=&q=der |
05:24 | query parser is on, opacsuppression is on | |
05:24 | dcook | Yep |
05:25 | Hmm, I'll rebase and see if that makes a difference for me.. | |
05:26 | (Nope. Still working well.) | |
05:26 | cait | hm if we have different urls to start with |
05:26 | weird | |
05:26 | if you try with my url | |
05:27 | do you see it? | |
05:31 | dcook | I can't reproduce it at all :/ |
05:31 | Maybe I'll try dumping in a bunch of records.. | |
05:32 | cait | my database is quie small |
05:32 | about 200 records | |
05:32 | dcook | Hmm, mine only has 5, so I'll try a bit more ;) |
05:33 | My prefs look the same as yours in this case | |
05:33 | At least the Searching prefs | |
05:33 | cait | maybe i need to update zebra conf |
05:33 | dcook | Not that I can think of |
05:35 | How many hidden records do you have? | |
05:36 | Hmm, added about 1600+ records, only have 1 hidden, but results are consistent | |
05:36 | cait | 1 |
05:38 | dcook | Hmm, yeah, aside from checking more deeply, I got no more ideas :/ |
05:39 | cait | yeah and i don't have much time this morning |
05:40 | maybe someone else can reproduce | |
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06:49 | dac | Hmm, apparently I quit, eh? |
06:50 | * dcook | hates acquisitions... |
06:50 | eythian | @later tell cait http://www.slate.com/content/d[…]inal-original.jpg |
06:50 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
06:51 | eythian | actually... |
06:51 | @later tell cait http://xkcd.com/583/ | |
06:51 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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07:21 | paul_p | hello everybody |
07:24 | eythian | hi paul_p |
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07:25 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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07:26 | cait | hi #koha |
07:26 | marcelr | hi cait |
07:27 | cait | hm eythian is leaving me cryptic messages |
07:28 | hi marcelr :) | |
07:28 | eythian | cait: it was in response to the last thing you posted. |
07:28 | cait | oh |
07:28 | and you expected me to remember that? :) | |
07:28 | eythian | yep :) |
07:29 | cait | my memory is not as good as it used to be, you know? |
07:29 | eythian | I guess I forgot |
07:30 | cait | how was monday in nz? |
07:30 | eythian | good, I spent half the day doing a presentation skills course (the second half for it tomorrow.) |
07:31 | cait | ah, how did it go? |
07:31 | eythian | good |
07:31 | I need to give a three minute presentation tomorrow, so I'm finishing that off now | |
07:42 | cait | 3 mins are over |
07:42 | are you not done yet? | |
07:43 | eythian | ...writing them takes longer than giving them |
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08:05 | paul_p | m'orning cait & marcelr |
08:06 | marcelr | hi paul_p |
08:06 | cait | hi paul_p |
08:29 | paul_p: did you see BobB is coming too? :) | |
08:30 | paul_p | cait = now I see ;-) (checking wiki updates only once or twice a week) |
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12:23 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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12:30 | tcohen | morrrning |
12:32 | @wunder cordoba, argentina | |
12:32 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 12.5°C (9:30 AM ART on August 04, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising). |
12:34 | tcohen | hi druthb |
12:37 | druthb | hi, tcohen. :) |
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12:58 | vinz3g | hi, good morning |
12:58 | anyone know where the file should be placed koha_oai.conf to work marc21 in OAI-PMH? | |
13:01 | tcohen | vinz3g: we don't have any file here |
13:04 | vinz3g | sorry |
13:07 | restating the question. anyone know where the file should be located "koha_oai.conf" to run the OAI-PMH? | |
13:15 | rambutan | vinz3g: people are still waking up. If you don't get a response wait an hour or so and ask again. |
13:18 | cait | vinz3g: it shoudl work without actually - marc21 is there by default |
13:18 | you don't have to add your won | |
13:18 | your own | |
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13:33 | vinz3g | @cait solve it; I had to add to the "/ usr / share / koha / opac / cgi-bin / opac" file "koha_oai.conf" then modify the paths within the same file paths for "marc21" and "dc" |
13:33 | huginn | vinz3g: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
13:33 | vinz3g | tnks huginn |
13:34 | <huginn> | |
13:34 | :) | |
13:36 | cait | vinz3g: hm strange - it always worked for me without doing anything - maybe it's a pref thing |
13:36 | i think if you enter something in one of the preferences,you have to specify a separate file, otherwise it works without | |
13:37 | marcelr++ # QA! | |
13:43 | vinz3g | I have actually changed the preference "OAI-PMH: ConfFile"; if I had not activated the message "... Dissemination as 'marc21' is not supported ..." |
13:45 | you do not need to add is dublin core; this works well without activating the preference had not noticed that ... | |
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13:51 | cait | vinz3g: it's been a whiel since we tested, but i think marcxml and dc works without doing much - just switching it on |
13:51 | if you want to do changes on the records etc. then you will need your own files i think | |
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13:55 | mveron | Hi #koha |
14:04 | vinz3g | ok |
14:06 | cait | hi mveron :) |
14:09 | mveron | hi cait :-) |
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15:10 | cait | hm someone around familiar with the mtt changes? |
15:10 | in the past when a user had no email address and an ovrdue was supposed to be send, it would end up in an email send to the library automatically | |
15:10 | but now it looks like a print version of the message is generated - how can those be output? | |
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15:14 | mveron | cait: Maybe Syspref OverdueNoticeBcc ? |
15:15 | cait | mveron: then you get all of them |
15:15 | i only want those that need to be printed/patrons with no email address | |
15:16 | andnot only overdues btw - but all all messages... | |
15:16 | the pref is misnamed | |
15:16 | well... it grew since first implementation | |
15:19 | mveron | Kind of fallback mail address for customers without mail address would be nice. |
15:21 | cait | mveron: i think we shouldn't really send them by email :( |
15:21 | but we had it for overdues and now it seems broken | |
15:21 | mveron | Some daily report? |
15:21 | cait | mveron: but there is also no nice way to pick up server generated files from within koha right now... so i want that email back |
15:21 | it had the formatted letters as attachement | |
15:21 | so a report will not cover it | |
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15:22 | cait | sending email with the patron data to the library is not so nice in terms of privacy i think, so ideal would be downloading a file from within koha |
15:23 | but right now, it seems like we have a regression... and i am not sure if there is a new way to do what has worked before | |
15:25 | mveron | http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]rdue_notices.html - The html-Option? |
15:25 | Produces html data. If patron does not have an email address or -n (no mail) flag is set, an HTML file is generated in the specified directory. This can be downloaded or futher processed by library staff. The file will be called notices-YYYY-MM-DD.html and placed in the directory specified. | |
15:26 | cait | mveron: if you have a file on the server |
15:26 | yo have to figure out how to get that to the library in a safe way | |
15:26 | you can't just put patron sensitive information in a directory without authentication | |
15:26 | so you need to automate it to put the files somewhere the library can get them, like an sftp server | |
15:27 | jcamins | cait: it's always been like that, hasn't it? |
15:27 | cait | jcamins: the email was sent out automatically |
15:27 | there was no print type fallback before | |
15:27 | the email option is missing | |
15:27 | it's not in the script, as it was automatic, not an option | |
15:27 | tcohen | oleonard |
15:27 | wahanui | hmmm... oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
15:27 | jcamins | cait: hm, I think I don't understand the problem, because I used the file on the server. |
15:28 | cait | jcamins: it requires a lot more setup - how do you secure the file? |
15:28 | where do you put it and how does the library download it? | |
15:29 | jcamins | cait: it's a huge nuisance. I've served it via HTTP and had a password on it. |
15:30 | But it was always a nuisance as far as I can remember. | |
15:30 | cait | jcamins: well you could have used the email :) but it's not as nicely formatted... and gone now. |
15:30 | our customers all use the email option | |
15:30 | so that's why i am a bit.. grumpy :) | |
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18:39 | tcohen | #koha: sample (refactored) import patrons form http://snag.gy/q0YiO.jpg |
18:39 | what do u think? | |
18:39 | wahanui | rumour has it do u think is ok to set a cookie name marcdocs_borrowernumber true or false |
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19:19 | cait | @later tell tcohen looks nice :) |
19:19 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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20:01 | ckindley | Hi folks. I'm trying to install Koha on a Gentoo server, but immediately hit a snag: # perl Makefile.PL prints "not well-formed (invalid token) at line 12, column 17, byte 378 at /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.18.2/XML/Simple.pm line 383." |
20:04 | cait | ckindley: i am sory, but i know nothing about Gentoo |
20:04 | most devs are using ubuntu or debian - so not sure who would be able to help you | |
20:06 | pianohacker | ckindley: it's likely that XML::Simple is using the wrong package |
20:06 | I'm not sure where it is on gentoo but you'll be fixing a file called ParserDetails.ini | |
20:07 | cait | hey pianohacker :) |
20:08 | pianohacker | hi cait :) |
20:12 | ckindley | pianohacker: Okay, that gives me something to work with. Thanks! |
20:13 | cait | pianohacker: how is rancor? |
20:13 | :P | |
20:13 | pianohacker | rancorous |
20:14 | ckindley | Looks like I'm working with XML::Simple 2.200.0 from Gentoo's Portage tree - should I use CPAN repo instead? |
20:15 | rangi | its not xml::simple |
20:15 | pianohacker | ckindley: the problem isn't with XML::Simple, perse; it's with the xml parser it's using under the hood |
20:15 | rangi | its the parser it is using |
20:15 | *snap* | |
20:15 | ckindley | Oooh, |
20:15 | pianohacker | ckindley: run perl misc/sax_parser_print.pl |
20:20 | ckindley | pianohacker: http://bpaste.net/show/557355/ |
20:20 | pianohacker | ckindley: yup, that needs to be fixed |
20:22 | * ckindley | fixes..... |
20:22 | wahanui | fixes are easier if we don't have to check for using_https - I don't mind either way |
20:31 | ckindley | Ech, ok. Still says it looks bad because the module appears to just be called "XML::LibXML::SAX", and it does not like the "+" character included in my DB password. |
20:41 | rangi | man i hope someone fixes bug 12717 |
20:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12717 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Library no longer receiving Overdue email for patrons without email address |
20:42 | rangi | or every single public library i admin is going to call me when they upgrade |
20:42 | regressions-- | |
20:42 | cait | maybe there is a new option i missed, i am hoping |
20:43 | rangi | im glad i havent upgraded anyone to 3.16 yet |
20:43 | cos that would be super annoying | |
20:47 | kathryn | morning :) |
20:49 | cait | morning kathryn |
20:49 | :) | |
20:52 | ckindley | So many perl modules to make sure I've installed.... |
20:53 | Say, what is Zebra anyway | |
20:53 | This: http://www.indexdata.com/zebra ? | |
20:53 | cait | yes, it's the search engine - you needit. |
20:53 | ckindley | Gotcha |
20:54 | "Zebra", even "Zebra database" was a pretty ambiguous term for me to find out more about | |
20:55 | rambutan | Zebra is used as the indexer for Koha because it's very fast and supports z39.50. The indexed results, however, sometimes |
20:55 | leave something to be desired in terms of ranking/relevancy. | |
20:55 | cait | rambutan: not the zebra's fault... |
20:56 | rambutan | The Koha project will probably be transitioning to Elasticsearch |
20:56 | rangi | yeah thats what we tell it to do |
20:56 | maybe, but it will certainly be offering both | |
20:56 | cait | and zebra offers sru and z39.50 among other things |
20:57 | rangi | elasticsearch needs another server |
20:57 | id still like to let libraries without the budget or need for 2 servers to use koha | |
20:58 | so i dont imagine zebra will be going away in the near future, but elasticsearch will be an option too | |
20:58 | when marc dies | |
20:58 | zebra can die | |
20:59 | until then, we still need z3950 and sru/sw | |
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21:03 | quocuy | Hi everyone |
21:03 | i'm following this tutorial to create new page on opac site, but it does not work | |
21:04 | http://www.prosentient.com/ind[…]s-koha-add-a-page | |
21:04 | rangi | it wont |
21:05 | quocuy | Is koha-community support this feature or this is koha.org? Because i have checked koha, there is no opac-showpage.pl file |
21:05 | cait | it's neither |
21:05 | rangi | its neither |
21:05 | its a prosentient thing | |
21:05 | cait | jinx? :) |
21:05 | rangi | however |
21:05 | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_as_a_CMS | |
21:05 | you could try this | |
21:05 | cait | probably based on this |
21:05 | rangi | no guarantees it will work |
21:05 | quocuy | so is there any way to create new page on Koha opac? |
21:05 | cait | from the description, it sounds quite similar |
21:06 | not build in, it's a customization | |
21:06 | rangi | koha isnt a CMS |
21:06 | quocuy | I understand. |
21:06 | rangi | but you can do this hackery |
21:06 | to make it pretend to be one | |
21:06 | ideally someone would convert this to a plugin | |
21:07 | quocuy | yeah, exactly. |
21:07 | rangi | there's a mission for you quocuy :) |
21:08 | quocuy | Ok, let me looking for some solution |
21:08 | rangi | http://bywatersolutions.com/koha-plugins/ |
21:08 | quocuy | in our country, there is a company, who made this http://koha.vn/ |
21:08 | rangi | that wiki page should still work |
21:09 | quocuy | ofcourse they won't give me any idea, so i had to find it out myself |
21:09 | rangi | but converting it into a plugin would be a better solution |
21:09 | quocuy | thanks, let's me try |
21:09 | thank you so much, rangi | |
21:09 | i'll give u update about this soon | |
21:10 | rangi | cool |
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21:32 | rangi | http://wozniak.ca/what-orms-ha[…]me-just-learn-sql <-- totally how i feel, and am glad that DBIx::Class is a light ORM |
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21:49 | quocuy | HI <@rangi> |
21:49 | rangi | hi again quocuy |
21:49 | quocuy | i followed that wiki page, it does not work on koha 3.14 |
21:49 | An error has occurred Error 500 An error occurred while try to process your request. To report this error, you can email the Koha Administrator. Use top menu bar to navigate to another part of Koha. | |
21:50 | rangi | you'll have to look in the error log |
21:50 | and find the actual erro | |
21:50 | r | |
21:50 | quocuy | ok |
21:52 | aha, this error Can't open perl script "/usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/pages.pl": Permission denied | |
21:52 | but i tried $chmod 711 pages.pl | |
21:54 | rangi | it needs to be |
21:54 | 755 | |
21:54 | cait | @later tell oleonard - could you take a look at the plugin added by bug 8992? |
21:54 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
21:55 | quocuy | ok |
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21:59 | quocuy | Ok, ok, it works! Thank you. Did u say that i can make plugin about this? |
21:59 | Rangi | |
22:00 | rangi | you could try if you wanted to |
22:00 | http://bywatersolutions.com/koha-plugins/ | |
22:00 | there is a tutorial video linked there | |
22:03 | quocuy | OK. Let me try more about this. I'm excited about this. We can make full site for schools without using wordpress, maybe |
22:03 | thank you | |
22:05 | rangi | no problem |
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22:38 | rangi | if you think that was worked up, you aint seen nothing yet |
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23:42 | tcohen | hi |
23:42 | wahanui | salut, tcohen |
23:42 | dac | rangi: I might have a fix for bug 12717 |
23:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12717 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Library no longer receiving Overdue email for patrons without email address |
23:43 | dac | It's not great though, so I haven't upstreamed it |
23:43 | rangi | maybe just put it up with a note, here's a starting point? |
23:46 | dac | Probably could do |
23:46 | At the moment, I use a syspref to just email it directly to the library. I like the former behaviour of collecting them together as attachments and just sending one email better though | |
23:46 | rangi | yeah |
23:47 | * dac | was wondering if he was the only one noticing this issue |
23:47 | dac | What's MTT? |
23:47 | Ah, nvm | |
23:49 | Wait a tic...actually, I fixed something different... | |
23:49 | Mine was for holds notices... | |
23:52 | rangi | ah right :) |
23:52 | dac | Bleargh |
23:53 | dcook | regressions-- |
23:54 | Ahh, that's why I haven't noticed that issue yet...it's post 3.14 | |
23:58 | rangi | yeah |
23:58 | its only gonna kick in 3.16.x | |
23:59 | dcook | Yeah, I'm a bit confused by the bug status. Galen already pushed it to 3.16.0? |
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