IRC log for #koha, 2014-08-03

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07:50 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:50 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.1°C (9:50 AM CEST on August 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
11:57 cait @wunder Konstanz
11:57 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 21.8°C (1:55 PM CEST on August 03, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
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12:57 bgkriegel Hi #koha
12:57 @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:57 huginn bgkriegel: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 18.1°C (9:55 AM ART on August 03, 2014). Conditions: Light Fog. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1007 hPa (Rising).
13:00 bgkriegel cait, around?
13:00 cait here :)
13:00 bgkriegel hi :)
13:00 Fixed Bug 12539
13:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12539 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove hardcoded theme from C4/Templates.pm
13:01 cait ah cool
13:01 could you reproduce the problem?
13:02 bgkriegel yes
13:02 that's why you are the QA manager :)
13:02 cait++
13:03 i didn't test using bootstrap
13:08 cait because i am good at breaking things? :)
13:09 @wunder Konstanz
13:09 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 22.0°C (3:00 PM CEST on August 03, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
13:11 bgkriegel No no!! Your are the best at testing :)
13:12 cait++
13:13 cait heh
13:13 bgkriegel we are too lazy to try things that need to be tried
13:13 cait so? :)
13:13 hehe i am lazy too... and this queue is growing so fast
13:14 bgkriegel all queues are growing...
13:15 we need more hands
13:18 cait yeah :(
13:18 lots of good things waiting too long
13:18 but hard to speed up and i still think qa is worth taking time
13:22 bgkriegel your right. It's a very important. Better this way
13:24 cait looking at bug 12535 now
13:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12535 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Signed Off , PROG/CCSR Deprecation: Make opac translation theme independent
13:26 bgkriegel Cool :)
13:26 cait who would have thought there are so many things to do in order to change templates
13:27 bgkriegel yeap
13:27 wait we try to use another DB!
13:29 cait oh right...
13:29 well one thing afer another :)
13:33 you noted that renaming all the files wwas too big
13:33 i think you will deal with that with tcohen?
13:39 bgkriegel sorry, i'm cooking. Yes, i did a renaming patch and was way big, so i wrote that suggestion
13:41 cait ok :)
13:41 I am thinking about what to cook for dinner too
13:47 jcamins cait: saag paneer or chicken koram?
13:47 *korma
13:47 That's what we're having for lunch.
13:48 Both, because the korma involves onions, and one of our guests is allergic to onions.
13:49 And I need another dessert.
14:09 cait i am having kartoffelpuffer with apfelmus
14:09 trying to make the kartoffelpuffer from scratch for the first time
14:19 and it worked... *yay*
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14:21 cait hi tcohen :)
14:21 tcohen hi cait
14:26 @later tell bgkriegel why is there a "prog" fallback syspref added?
14:26 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
14:29 cait tcohen: there was a discussion about that on irc
14:29 the problem with the first patch was that it broke the fallback option for creating your own templates
14:29 tcohen i'll try to find it, thanks cait
14:30 cait say you only have your own advanced search... and it falls back to another template for all the other files
14:30 tcohen ah, ccsr-like functionality
14:30 cait this way we can push it now and only need a database update switching it to bootstrap later
14:30 yep
14:30 defining a base template yours are derived fromn
14:30 tcohen and why not bootstrap directly
14:31 cait hm not sure
14:31 the discussion shoudl be in the logs from the last 2 days or so
14:33 jcamins tcohen: because a former RM threw a hissy fit about the fact that there wasn't such a syspref.
14:34 cait hm, i didn't feel like that
14:35 tcohen i'll take a look at the discussion, thanks jcamins cait
14:37 jcamins It should be prog at the moment because it will break current functionality dramatically and though deprecated, CCSR is still there.
14:38 cait we will have to do a database update to set opacthemes anyway - it woudl not be hard to include this at the time
14:41 tcohen jcamins: but bug 12233 is expected to be pushed for 3.18
14:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12233 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, REOPENED , remove prog and CCSR OPAC themes
14:44 * tcohen is in sunday-mode, all confused :-P
14:46 * cait can relate tothat
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15:05 bgkriegel hi again
15:08 @later tell tcohen: it's a fallback syspref added, with current value 'prog', future value 'bootstrap'
15:08 huginn bgkriegel: The operation succeeded.
15:09 cait i think you both are here now an dcan talk normally :)
15:09 bgkriegel hehe :)
15:10 tcohen @later tell bgkriegel i think i need to read the discussion and the defined deprecation path to better understand
15:10 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
15:10 tcohen :-P
15:10 bgkriegel hi tom :)
15:13 tcohen: without the preference we lost a feature, so it's value is set to 'prog' until the final removal
15:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12685: Add help file for staff search history <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a34f9df68bbbbac6a> / Bug 12554: Fix GetMarcPrice for NORMARC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b9654fc00a7775d31> / Bug 12554: (regression test) C4::Biblio::GetMarcPrice does not handle NORMARC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=
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16:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #80: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_Master_D7/80/
16:21 * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12687 - Remove CGI::scrolling_list from circulation.pl
16:21 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12672: (regression test) GetMarcISBN should return the corresponding subfield
16:21 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12672: GetMarcISBN should return the corresponding subfield
16:21 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12554: (regression test) C4::Biblio::GetMarcPrice does not handle NORMARC
16:21 * Petter Goksoyr Asen: Bug 12554: Fix GetMarcPrice for NORMARC
16:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12687 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Remove CGI::scrolling_list from circulation.pl
16:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12685: Add help file for staff search history
16:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12672 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , GetMarcISBN should return the corresponding subfield
16:21 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12554 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , C4::Biblio GetMarcPrice does not handle NORMARC
16:21 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12685 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , search history page missing help file
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18:20 mveron Hi #koha
18:20 @wunder Basel
18:20 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 22.0°C (8:20 PM CEST on August 03, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
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19:21 tcohen @wunder konstanz
19:21 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.1°C (9:20 PM CEST on August 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
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19:50 vinz3g Hello, good afternoon
19:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12554: (tests followup) need to mock GetCurrency <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6dc23272960aa2a01>
19:52 vinz3g Anyone with information about how to configure OAI-PMH
19:53 rangi tcohen i commented on the bug, there is no need to remove the fallback feature, just to deprecate prog
19:53 there are people using themes that are not ccsr or prog .. we dont need to break stuff for them
19:53 just to remove prog
19:53 tcohen rangi, I agree with that
19:54 just didn't understand why leaving 'prog' as default
19:54 but, really, didn't have the time to read the whole thing
19:54 rangi probably safest until all the removal patches are done
19:54 then we do a commit that switches the theme syspref, and the fallback at that point
19:58 mveron vinz3g: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]d_by_Koha#OAI-PMH
19:58 Good night / daytime #koha
20:00 vinz3g thanks mveron
20:02 cait oh
20:02 now i missed mveron
20:02 vinz3g butthe question has to do with mapping if I want all the records is available and I recommend that fields must contain values​​?
20:04 cait sorry, vinz3g, I am not sur ei understand what you want to do
20:06 vinz3g I want to put all my records available in OAI.
20:06 cait all records should be available without you doing any mapping
20:06 i eman you don't need a set for allrecords
20:07 vinz3g oh, tanks
20:10 one last question, as I can verify that OAI is available in koha?
20:16 cait vinz3g: can you rephrase your question?
20:16 vinz3g yes of course
20:17 sorry dont speak english, I use google translator
20:17 cait What's your native language?
20:19 rangi bgkriegel: are you about?
20:19 bgkriegel rangi: yes!
20:19 vinz3g I configured OAI, now how can I verify that the OAI-PMH server is working properly, there is a URL?
20:19 rangi bgkriegel: how far is buenos aires from cordoba?
20:20 bgkriegel by plane 1 hour
20:20 tcohen 720Km
20:20 rangi ah ok
20:20 bgkriegel ~700 Km
20:20 rangi too far for a day trip then :)
20:20 unless we find some cheap flights
20:21 vinz3g I speak spanish
20:21 bgkriegel vinz3g: cual es la pregunta?
20:22 tcohen /cgi-bin/koha/oai.pl
20:22 cait :)
20:22 bgkriegel: i understood that! :)
20:22 bgkriegel hehe :)
20:23 cait bgkriegel: what would be your top 3 things we should be doing/seeing? :)
20:23 vinz3g ok, thankyou, muchas gracias!
20:23 tcohen vinz3g: proba en el dominio de tu OPAC
20:23 /cgi-bin/koha/oai.pl?verb=List​Records&metadataPrefix=marcxml
20:24 bgkriegel cait: at Cordoba?
20:24 tcohen (para que en vez de mostrarte un error, te devuelva registros)
20:24 cait bgkriegel: yep :)
20:24 or something close enough for a day trip
20:24 tcohen vinz3g: por ejemplo http://bmayor.biblio.unc.edu.a[…]ataPrefix=marcxml
20:24 vinz3g gracias tcohen bgkriegel cait
20:26 bgkriegel vinz3g: No hay de que :)
20:26 tcohen cait: San Javier / Yacanto
20:27 bgkriegel cait: well, we are deliberating with tcohen what's better
20:27 yeap, that could be
20:27 rangi i found http://www.allaboutar.com/ard_cordoba_nearby.htm
20:28 cait: you want to go paragliding? :)
20:28 tcohen i mentioned the third
20:28 rangi cool
20:28 also this http://www.ratestogo.com/blog/[…]cordoba-argentin/
20:28 cait rangi: i am scared of heights...
20:28 bgkriegel rangi: in that page 'Valle de Traslasierras and Mina Cavero'
20:28 cait i'd probably die heh
20:29 but i know nzers invented all kind of crazy sports... :)
20:30 tcohen rangi: the Jesuit block is where the conference is held :-D
20:30 cait very cool
20:30 rangi well that's easy then :)
20:30 http://www.lonelyplanet.com/ar[…]cional-de-cordoba
20:30 and the hackfest near here?
20:31 vinz3g hi
20:31 rangi vinz3g: do you live near argentina? that is where the Koha conference is being held this year
20:32 vinz3g error on line 2 at column 1: Extra content at the end of the document <-----
20:32 tcohen rangi: the hackfest is in the campus
20:32 vinz3g no, I from México, Mérida Yucatán, land of mayans
20:32 :)
20:32 rangi ahhh very cool :)
20:32 * tcohen loved Merida's surroundings
20:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12673: Remove CGI::scrolling_list from C4::Items.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ddcefee9542b964fc> / Bug 12675: Add unit test to GetFrameworksLoop <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]80d8470275332fe67> / Bug 12675: Remove CGI::scrolling_list from labeledMARCdetail.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko
20:34 rangi vinz3g: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]sers/NorthAmerica  there are a few koha libraries in mexico listed here
20:34 bgkriegel rangi cait: https://www.google.com/maps/di[…]!2d-31.418298!3e2
20:34 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
20:34 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
20:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #81: FIXED in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_Master_D7/81/
20:34 Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12554: (tests followup) need to mock GetCurrency
20:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12554 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , C4::Biblio GetMarcPrice does not handle NORMARC
20:35 rangi thanks bgkriegel
20:38 vinz3g I am promoting the use of Koha in the Yucatan Peninsula, even with all its benefits librarians have a lot of mistrust, is a hard job convincing!
20:39 cait getting the first libaries convinced is always the hardestpart
20:39 after that it gets easier, because they see it works
20:40 rangi adalid at http://clavius.tij.uia.mx/
20:40 might be a good person to talk to, they have been using Koha for quite a while now
20:40 and seem to be quite a big library, maybe will help convince others
20:40 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
20:40 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
20:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #89: FIXED in 58 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_U12/89/
20:40 Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12554: (tests followup) need to mock GetCurrency
20:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12554 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , C4::Biblio GetMarcPrice does not handle NORMARC
20:44 vinz3g ok its true
20:45 rangi https://twitter.com/CityGaller[…]071968768/photo/1
20:45 at 9.20am
20:45 its going to get loud here in wellington
20:45 (35 minutes)
20:46 vinz3g I've managed to convince four small libraries and am now trying to create a union catalog for them with extensible catalog, but almost no documentation ...
20:48 rangi i found extensible catalog quite hard to understand
20:49 vinz3g error on line 2 at column 1: Extra content at the end of the document <----- anyone know anything about this?,  is the result of consultation with my OAI
20:50 rangi if you choose view source
20:50 you could paste it here
20:50 http://paste.koha-community.org/
20:56 cait @seen BobB
20:56 huginn cait: BobB was last seen in #koha 3 days, 13 hours, 35 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <BobB> its evening here :)
20:56 rangi @later tell bobb i think we are on teh same flight to cordoba, at least from santiago .. .maybe all the way from auckland?
20:56 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:58 vinz3g sorry why source? my files? records o the source of web page?
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21:00 rangi vinz3g: of the webpage, it might show what the extra content is
21:01 pastebot "vinz3g" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "OAI-PMH error on line 2 at column 1: Extra content at the end of the document" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/136
21:02 rangi ah ha
21:04 looks like something up with the data perhaps,
21:04 i wonder if there is anyone around who knows OAI better than me?
21:06 cait hm it seems lik eit doesn't like the entities
21:06 or.. not sure really
21:06 sorry
21:06 vinz3g maybe the records its bad?
21:07 cait maybe try with another record - maybe an english one without diacritics first
21:09 vinz3g then perhaps utf issue, marc, iso, etc.?, I will check the base.
21:14 hi, my second library, its works!
21:14 good!
21:15 wooowww
21:17 now to break my head with extensible catalog to harvest records from koha!
21:17 rangi heh
21:17 good luck
21:18 vinz3g thanks very much a all
21:19 this channel has helped me a few times, I do not usually get much help, but when I needed units have saved me, thank you very much and have success with your event.
21:26 cait good luck vinz3g
21:29 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
21:29 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
21:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #87: FIXED in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_U14/87/
21:29 * Olli-Antti Kivilahti: Bug 12668 - Stray dollar ($) -sign in opac-reserve.pl
21:29 * Owen Leonard: Bug 12677: Use Bootstrap "label" style for inline OPAC renewal messages
21:29 * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12675: Remove CGI::scrolling_list from labeledMARCdetail.pl
21:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12668 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Master , Stray dollar ($) -sign in opac-reserve.pl
21:29 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12675: Add unit test to GetFrameworksLoop
21:29 * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12673: Remove CGI::scrolling_list from C4::Items.pm
21:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12677 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use Bootstrap "label" style for inline OPAC renewal messages
21:29 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12675 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Remove CGI::scrolling_list from labeledMARCdetail.pl
21:29 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12673 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Remove CGI::scrolling_list from C4::Items.pm
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22:07 eythian hi
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22:32 ibeardslee wow eythian .. you have a way with people
22:32 eythian ibeardslee: I can't help it!
22:32 hi cait
22:34 jcamins cait?
22:34 wahanui cait: go to bed
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23:05 tcohen hi
23:07 @wunder cordoba, argentina
23:07 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 18.5°C (8:05 PM ART on August 03, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
23:08 eythian @wunder nzwn
23:08 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (10:30 AM NZST on August 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
23:15 tcohen hi eythian
23:16 eythian g'morning/afternoon
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