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| 05:34 | ashimema_zzzzz | Hi rangi.. |
| 05:34 | indeed.. i was more thinking I like the pull request workflow, than specifically tying it to github.. ;) I agree with all you say there.. | |
| 05:35 | and i did say that our workflow work.. so lets not break it in the original comment.. | |
| 05:36 | my envisages way to make pull requests workflow work, would have indeed included a gerrit or similar middle step for quality control ;) | |
| 05:36 | I'm not suggesting we jump in any time soon though.. bugzilla works well for us.. just feels a tad dated.. but it works well and has worked well for us for some time and has worked well for many other projects too ;) | |
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| 07:00 | rangi | ashimema_zzzzz: yeah, i had a gerrit running at kohacon12 ... its a bit of a steep learning curve for people who want to do sign offs |
| 07:00 | gerrit + sandboxes might work | |
| 07:00 | ashimema | yeah.. I have to admit my playing with gerrit lead me to thinking it was 'too hard' for your average joe |
| 07:01 | i'de like to see one of the open source github'ish ones out there include some gerrit like features.. | |
| 07:01 | rangi | yeah |
| 07:01 | i wonder if gitorious are working on that | |
| 07:03 | ashimema | would be interesting to find out. |
| 07:04 | it's gitorious that biblibre are using now isn't it? | |
| 07:04 | rangi | might be |
| 07:04 | ashimema | it's such a shame github isn't open (even more of a shame that they have some other questionable hiring stances). As a product for git github is pretty hard to beat. |
| 07:05 | rangi | i use it for my projects, and mahara use it |
| 07:05 | ashimema | ah.. githlab is what they're using now. |
| 07:05 | https://about.gitlab.com/ | |
| 07:06 | rangi | https://gitorious.org/~ranginu |
| 07:07 | it does all the merge requests etc | |
| 07:08 | just missing the status of a patch type idea | |
| 07:08 | ashimema | I've had a play with gitorious a few times.. |
| 07:08 | rangi | gitlab looks interestin |
| 07:09 | ashimema | every time i'm more impressed.. though it's development seems to have slowed a bit of late to me? |
| 07:09 | gitlab is really interesting. | |
| 07:11 | in a breif.. very brief.. play, gitlab seems to have the edge over gitorious for me. | |
| 07:14 | rangi | ill have to get it running to test it out sometime |
| 07:17 | ashimema | indeed.. |
| 07:17 | rangi | the trick would be migrating |
| 07:17 | ashimema | I'm sure if you asked nicely Joubu/PaulP would give you an account to play with form a user perspective on their one.. |
| 07:17 | At the moment I think it's locked down to requireing an account at least.. | |
| 07:19 | Migration would need a whole community 'go for it'.. technically I imagine it's not too hard.. but getting everyone to switch and agree to the switch.. more so.. | |
| 07:19 | worth a play though.. I like keeping options open ;) | |
| 07:19 | aha.. of course.. biblbire do have lots of 'public projects' https://git.biblibre.com/public/projects | |
| 07:19 | not sure that worked when I first saw them make the switch | |
| 07:20 | rangi | doesnt seem to be an importer from bugzilla at the moment |
| 07:20 | ashimema | :( |
| 07:21 | rangi | bugzilla outputs everything as xml |
| 07:21 | so shouldnt be hard to write one | |
| 07:24 | ashimema | right.. it's the weekend here.. I should probably go do weekend stuff with the family |
| 07:24 | rangi | :) |
| 07:24 | ashimema | have fun rangi.. nice to chat to you.. we don't often seem to overlap on IRC these days :( |
| 07:30 | rangi | yeah stupid timezones |
| 07:31 | ashimema | indeed. |
| 07:31 | gitlab is mostly ruby.. wasn't expecting that.. | |
| 07:31 | anywho.. I'm ofski before the misses tells me off ;) | |
| 07:31 | laters | |
| 07:31 | rangi | cya later :) |
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| 10:57 | hasenbear | hello out there. is it possible to export call numbers for printing with an external program? |
| 10:57 | cait | hmi think you can use a report to do that |
| 10:57 | it would give you an ods spreadsheet, csv or json if you want to automate something | |
| 10:57 | where are you from hasenbear? | |
| 10:57 | hasenbear | in germany |
| 10:58 | we've talked before cait, you helped with a problem i had with zebra | |
| 10:58 | thanks again for that | |
| 10:58 | cait | ah ok :) |
| 10:58 | me too | |
| 10:58 | your nick sounded suspicious | |
| 10:58 | hasenbear | so. dumb question. how do i do the report? |
| 10:58 | creature of habit :) | |
| 10:59 | cait | you can do sql reports with koha |
| 10:59 | you know that you can print labels within koha as well? (just checking) | |
| 10:59 | so you'd do something like.... select callnumber from items where ... | |
| 10:59 | hasenbear | i know i can but have been having trouble getting it to format just right. |
| 11:00 | cait | i'd suggest taking a look at the reports module |
| 11:00 | are you familiar with sql? | |
| 11:00 | hasenbear | since i was advised not to print patron cards on koha i thought i'd just try doing it all externally |
| 11:00 | no unfortunately not. i'm not the admin | |
| 11:01 | cait | we don't use the labels modules, so i can not advice much there |
| 11:01 | i think it seems to work well for some | |
| 11:01 | but it's a lot to configure and try out to get it right i think | |
| 11:01 | hasenbear | i had the patron cards configured (now have less hair) |
| 11:01 | but the pdf keeps crashing | |
| 11:01 | so i can't print them out | |
| 11:01 | cait | ah |
| 11:02 | maybe diacritics - there are ways to make it work now i think | |
| 11:02 | hasenbear | so what would you suggest? |
| 11:02 | cait | there were some problems with utf-8 data in the pdfs in the past |
| 11:02 | hm both ways are ok | |
| 11:02 | you need to figure out what works best for you | |
| 11:03 | hasenbear | but i have to have access to the sql module to do it externally? |
| 11:03 | cait | ah |
| 11:03 | you can write sql reports within koha | |
| 11:03 | you don't need to access the server | |
| 11:04 | it all works from the gui | |
| 11:04 | maybe try something easy for a start | |
| 11:04 | hasenbear | is it something i can read my way into? |
| 11:04 | cait | sure :) |
| 11:04 | so for soomething quick | |
| 11:04 | you could do | |
| 11:04 | reports > saved reports > new from sql | |
| 11:05 | hasenbear | okay. and that give me.... what does that give me? |
| 11:05 | cait | a form :) |
| 11:05 | sec | |
| 11:05 | hasenbear | :) |
| 11:06 | cait | you give it a name |
| 11:06 | and then add soemthing like this in the big field for the sql: | |
| 11:06 | select itemcallnumber from items where itemcallnumber is not NULL; | |
| 11:06 | get callnumber from all items, where the callnumber is not empty | |
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| 11:06 | cait | save and run it |
| 11:06 | some inspiration can be found here | |
| 11:06 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library | |
| 11:08 | hasenbear | thanks! i'll give that a try and see how far i get. danke dir cait. du bist doch in BW, oder? wir sind dann nicht so weit auseinander. |
| 11:08 | cait | ja :) Konstanz |
| 11:08 | wo bist du? | |
| 11:08 | aman | how can i duplicate my koha server.. i mean one server is set fully n customized, the other one, i have installed koha from the bootable koha ubuntu.. Then i tried to dump SQL and import on other pc but the result was not exact |
| 11:08 | hasenbear | nähe würzburg |
| 11:09 | i'll be back if i can't get anywhere with the report. thanks again!! | |
| 11:09 | cait | hm dumping the database and reimporting is normally done a lot |
| 11:09 | do the versions match? | |
| 11:09 | aman | yes the version match |
| 11:09 | cait | importing a lower version db into a higherversion koha would be ok too - will start the update |
| 11:10 | aman | but do i need to do some pre-requisites before importing sql? |
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| 11:10 | aman | actually the results were quiet different, like the search used to gave different result for the books.. thats wierd |
| 11:11 | cait | hm |
| 11:11 | hard to tell | |
| 11:11 | but you will need to reindex | |
| 11:11 | the zebra indeses are kept outside of the db - so you import and do a full zebra reindex | |
| 11:12 | aman | ok.. and also i need to ask that how can i import patrons? the patrons were uploaded on that pc but even on DB dump, no patrons were imported |
| 11:12 | cait | hmm they would be included if the db dump worked correctly |
| 11:13 | normally you do a csv import when you start out - toold > import patrons - you can download a file there to help get you started | |
| 11:14 | aman | then i must be missing some steps surely.. hmm the csv is actually not accessible for me as i m learning koha.. making a trial system.. |
| 11:15 | cait | a full db dump should give you all data and no more migrations needed apart fromrebuilding the indexes |
| 11:15 | i'd start and try to find out what went wrong there or start from scratch | |
| 11:15 | but probably i wouldn't feel safe using a database that showed strange behaviour after an import attempt - you don' tknow what might be missing | |
| 11:16 | aman | cait.. usually if i have 2 systems with same koha version, can i have the exact copy on DB dump or i need to set library or things prior to DUMP process |
| 11:16 | cait | nope |
| 11:16 | if youwork with dumpms | |
| 11:16 | you replace one database with another | |
| 11:16 | all settings from the old db don't matter | |
| 11:17 | you overwrite it completely | |
| 11:17 | aman | ok.. and sir, i m unaware of indexing, how is it done? |
| 11:17 | cait | hm that's command line |
| 11:17 | it depends on how you installed your koha | |
| 11:17 | aman | oh.. |
| 11:18 | cait | you run a command, but it differes from a package install to a tarball installation |
| 11:18 | aman | can the error be this only coz i have not indexed.. |
| 11:18 | cait | if it's only search being werid, yes |
| 11:18 | aman | patrons too :( |
| 11:19 | cait | hm they wouldn't be affected by this |
| 11:19 | it's really a bit hard to tell what went wrong | |
| 11:19 | aman | ok thats anyways sir |
| 11:19 | cait | but i'd try to start over - not trying to repair |
| 11:19 | aman | thanks |
| 11:19 | i will also prefer same :) | |
| 11:19 | cait | why sir? :) |
| 11:20 | aman | sir.. coz u know lot more than me in koha :) |
| 11:22 | cait | we are not so formal here :) |
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| 11:30 | bgkriegel | hola #koha |
| 11:31 | cait | hola bgkriegel :) |
| 11:32 | bgkriegel | hola cait, Buen día para ti :) |
| 11:33 | cait | gracias, buen día para ti |
| 11:33 | i don't know ...how to say too :) | |
| 11:33 | bgkriegel | too = también ! |
| 11:33 | it's longer :) | |
| 11:34 | cait | ohright |
| 11:34 | i forgot :) i tihnk i need to look into my spanish books more :) | |
| 11:35 | también and tampoco ? | |
| 11:36 | bgkriegel | tampoco is 'neither' |
| 11:36 | :) | |
| 11:37 | cait | yep :) |
| 11:38 | i really need to learn more spanish... i already start forgetting what i learned in the courses :( | |
| 11:39 | bgkriegel | well, you can try a little here :) |
| 11:42 | few scrolling_lists now, almost finished | |
| 11:54 | cait | thx a lotfor taking this one on:) |
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| 11:55 | cait | hola tcohen, que tal? |
| 11:55 | tcohen | muy bien cait, que tal vos? |
| 11:56 | cait | también |
| 11:56 | can i ssay that? | |
| 11:57 | tcohen | "muy bien, también" I'd say |
| 11:57 | cait | ah |
| 11:57 | right, i think i think too much :) | |
| 11:59 | tcohen | how's your saturday starting? |
| 11:59 | cait | sloooow |
| 11:59 | kind of late here too :) | |
| 11:59 | 2pm | |
| 12:00 | tcohen | heh |
| 12:01 | bgkriegel | Mmm, only we (argentina) and Costa Rica use 'vos' for you (second singular). Rest of spanish world use 'tu' |
| 12:01 | cait | what are you 2 doing? |
| 12:01 | yeah i learned tu | |
| 12:01 | but i think you don't use vosotros? or do you? | |
| 12:02 | so many differences between the countries | |
| 12:02 | tcohen | "ustedes" |
| 12:02 | spain: "vosotros" <-> the rest: "ustedes" | |
| 12:02 | cait | ok, so got that right then :) |
| 12:03 | tcohen | yesterday I won't my quarter finals match :-D |
| 12:04 | cait | congrats :) |
| 12:05 | bgkriegel | tcohen: you won or won't ? :) |
| 12:05 | hi BTW :) | |
| 12:05 | tcohen | I won't loose :-P |
| 12:05 | nah, I won it | |
| 12:05 | and hi | |
| 12:06 | cait | el moto or la moto? |
| 12:06 | tcohen | la |
| 12:07 | cait | thx |
| 12:07 | I am practicing a bit with duolingo :) | |
| 12:08 | bgkriegel | need to try it |
| 12:09 | cait | if you do, let me know - i can add you to my friends list :) |
| 12:10 | bgkriegel | ok :) |
| 12:32 | cait | bgkriegel: what are you working on? |
| 12:35 | bgkriegel | cait: right now, trying to expunge all scrolling_list |
| 12:37 | cait: could I have an opinion on Bug 11593? | |
| 12:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11593 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , subtag_registry.sql files contain the same information for each language |
| 12:38 | cait | bgkriegel: i hadn't seen that yet |
| 12:38 | i guess it wouldbe a quicer version of your more thorough patch? | |
| 12:38 | but probably not quite as nice | |
| 12:38 | oh | |
| 12:39 | bgkriegel | some form of this file is needed |
| 12:39 | cait | yeah |
| 12:39 | could this be a first step to removing it totally? | |
| 12:39 | bgkriegel | with 11593 we can have only one |
| 12:39 | cait | so this first and then 11593? |
| 12:40 | or better decide on one? | |
| 12:40 | sorry if I am not making much sense | |
| 12:40 | bgkriegel | no problem :) |
| 12:41 | it's a matter of discussion, to find a better way | |
| 12:43 | but 11953 is about consolidate into one file | |
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| 12:46 | bgkriegel | cait: you need that I look something? |
| 12:47 | cait | i like 11953 because it's abit less invasive |
| 12:47 | changingless code | |
| 12:47 | and adopting a method we have already | |
| 12:47 | i like the other patchbecauseit will not require people to change an sql file to have more translations | |
| 12:48 | rightt now we only support english, french and german.. that's not so nice | |
| 12:50 | bgkriegel: you wrote both patches, what are you thinking? | |
| 12:51 | i think maybe the easy one first, could even be a bugfix for stable versions... and then 12017? | |
| 12:51 | bgkriegel | yes, that could work |
| 12:53 | algo I have another, 12250, in that I copy the same file for all languages | |
| 12:53 | cait | hm i think maybe leave that and go for the one file one instead |
| 12:53 | if that would be ok for you | |
| 12:53 | bgkriegel | i'm writing my own incompatibilities :) |
| 12:53 | cait | it looks like :) |
| 12:54 | but then we need a follow up for kurdish to the other, i think? | |
| 12:54 | i am getting a little confused here between all the languages :) | |
| 12:54 | bgkriegel | yes, of course :) |
| 12:55 | a common TT dir to share some code between opac/staff would be great | |
| 12:55 | * cait | nods |
| 12:55 | cait | i think we have run into the problem quite often now |
| 12:55 | also for javascript libraries | |
| 12:57 | bgkriegel | that could help with 12017, and yes, many other things |
| 12:59 | I'm also waiting for Joubu to review (again) Bug 12061, that is needed to Bug 7939 | |
| 12:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12061 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Signed Off , tmpl_process3.pl new features |
| 12:59 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Separate po files for different MARC dialects | |
| 12:59 | cait | bgkriegel: he is on vacation now i am afraid |
| 12:59 | i think 2 more weeks at least | |
| 13:00 | bgkriegel | yep, I know :) No problem |
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| 13:02 | cait | ah tcohen is gone |
| 13:07 | tcohen++ | |
| 13:08 | bgkriegel: have to go to the supermarket... will be back later - have a nice weekend :) | |
| 13:08 | bgkriegel | you too :) |
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| 20:17 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:17 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0°C (10:00 PM CEST on August 02, 2014). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
| 23:52 | bgkriegel | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 23:52 | huginn | bgkriegel: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 21.1°C (8:50 PM ART on August 02, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). |
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