IRC log for #koha, 2014-02-17

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03:13 eythian wahanui: \I assume is <reply>\You just made a donkey of an ume plum.  Please choose your words with better care.
03:13 wahanui ...but i assume is commented because breaks something, right?...
03:13 eythian no wahanui, \I assume is <reply>\You just made a donkey of an ume plum.  Please choose your words with better care.
03:13 wahanui okay, eythian.
03:14 eythian I assume
03:14 wahanui: I assume
03:14 wahanui eythian: i'm not following you...
03:14 eythian how odd
03:15 jcamins wahanui assume
03:15 wahanui jcamins: i'm not following you...
03:15 jcamins wahanui: wahanui assume
03:15 wahanui jcamins: sorry...
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03:16 Kyle Hi, is there any reason why Koha would disconnect from SIP when a checkout request is sent?
03:16 rangi i just answered your email about that I think, check the syslog
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03:17 mtompset Okay, I'm not supposed to be doing coding, but...
03:17 How do I do DBIx schema stuff?
03:19 rangi i juts answered that too, on the bug
03:21 mtompset Okay, reading.
03:21 Thanks.
03:22 rangi Guest262: also it might log to the sip.err or sip.out log too, my guess is for some reason (maybe missing branch info being sent by the kiosk) the circ module is crashing
03:24 mtompset rangi: So, in short, I've already made the structure changes, run that script, and commit the diffs?
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03:47 mtompset rangi: Why is the 'use utf8;' not in the generated Schema files for me?
03:58 Hmmm... Ubuntu's schema loader is an earlier version.
04:15 Blast... Ubuntu's schema loader is the problem.
04:27 Okay, there... but I don't know how to TEST a schema file.
04:28 rangi ahh you can deploy it
04:28 thats the easiest way
04:28 jcamins wizzyrea: FYI, we live in the future. It is possible to buy a 40x-1000x (!) microscope that you can connect to your computer for $125.
04:28 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11390
04:28 huginn` 04Bug 11390: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , DBIx::Class schema deployment script
04:30 rangi but if you generated it, and it reads ok, i can test it and sign off
04:30 the nice thing with schema files
04:30 is they are actually quite human readable
04:38 mtompset That they are... and once generated under Debian, the diff looks better.
04:40 I did generate it. I put the steps I took to generate it into the patch. :)
04:51 rangi cool
04:52 it will be covered in the dev meeting on the 25th too
05:15 mtompset Well, back to not programming... *sigh* The joys of fundraising.
05:15 Have a great day, #koha.
05:15 rangi cya mtompset
05:16 mtompset Thanks, rangi.
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05:24 brendan_ evening y'all
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05:44 * cait waves
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07:40 reiveune hello
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07:50 * magnuse waves
07:50 marcelr hi magnuse
07:50 wahanui hi magnuse are you spending much time in oslo?
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07:52 magnuse wahanui: wednesday and thursday of this week, if you must know ;-)
07:52 wahanui magnuse: sorry...
07:52 magnuse wahanui: nah, it's ok
07:52 wahanui magnuse: huh?
07:52 magnuse wahanui: it really is!
07:52 wahanui magnuse: sorry...
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07:57 alex_a bonjour
07:58 marcelr hi alex_a
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08:02 huginn` GERMS!!!!
08:02 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
08:02 cait hmpf.
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08:15 Joubu hi
08:16 cait morning Jo
08:16 morning Joubu :)
08:18 magnuse @wunder marcelr
08:18 huginn` magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
08:18 magnuse gah!
08:18 cait heh
08:18 magnuse @wunder marseille
08:18 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 5.2°C (9:18 AM CET on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
08:18 marcelr ??
08:18 hi cait Joubu
08:19 magnuse sorry, my fingers thought xchat should autocomplete mar -> marseille
08:19 marcelr :)
08:19 magnuse i was not trying to check your temperature marcelr ;-)
08:19 marcelr 37
08:21 magnuse that's good to hear :-)
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08:37 cait wizzyrea: around?
08:38 kivilahtio do you have any stress testing scripts for Koha?
08:38 I am about to embark on a perilous journey of configuring our dproduction server environments
08:38 would like to test apache2 and mysql and zebra
08:39 to find any bottlenecks
08:39 I have used Multi Mechanize to do some basic web crawling, but do you have other alternatives which you fancy?
08:45 rangi curl-loader
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08:51 kivilahtio do you have any idea about Zebra security?
08:51 or running Zebra in a separate virtual server than Koha-apahce2
08:52 we need to separate web-servers and databsae servers to separate network regions
08:52 I am a bit worried about putting zebra into a virtual server due to io performance
08:53 do you have a best practice about "Is it safe to put Zebra to intranet?"
08:54 cait not my area of expertise - not running any servers, sorry
08:54 i have heard that having mysql and zebra not on the same server is good for performance, but that's about all i know
08:55 kivilahtio maye I could but zebra to a virtual server and give native access to a ssd-partition
08:55 should solve those issues :)
09:00 Joubu kivilahtio: some scripts exist in misc/load_testing
09:05 kivilahtio thanks yous everybody!
09:06 I got lots of ALERTS! :)
10:05 cait Joubu+
10:05 Joubu++ even
10:05 can't type today
10:12 kivilahtio cait: I can't type!
10:12 yay!
10:14 cait hm?
10:14 kivilahtio that was a kinda joka
10:14 *joke
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10:35 mveron Hi #koha
10:36 @wunder basel
10:36 huginn` mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 9.8°C (11:33 AM CET on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
10:37 mveron @seen drojf
10:37 huginn` mveron: drojf was last seen in #koha 5 days, 18 hours, 29 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <drojf> cait++
11:01 marcelr hi mveron
11:05 mveron hi marcelr
11:05 * cait waves
11:05 mveron hi cait
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12:47 tcohen back
12:47 hi #koha
12:49 marcelr hi tcohen
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13:02 magnuse @wunder marseille
13:02 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 13.7°C (2:02 PM CET on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
13:02 magnuse ooh
13:03 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:03 huginn` tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 19.0°C (9:35 AM ART on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
13:03 matts warmer than bodo magnuse ?
13:03 cait h tcohen and magnuse :)
13:03 matts: you will be at the hackfest, right? :)
13:03 tcohen hi cait!
13:04 matts cait, yeah, of course... Wouldn't miss it !
13:04 cait excellent :)
13:06 magnuse @wunder boo
13:06 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (1:50 PM CET on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Rising).
13:06 magnuse matts: yup
13:07 matts what's 10°C ? nothing, really :)
13:07 cait @wunder Konstanz
13:07 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 9.0°C (2:00 PM CET on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
13:07 cait @wunder Marseille
13:07 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 13.8°C (2:07 PM CET on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
13:10 magnuse matts: so true ;-)
13:13 cait matts: i trust you to take care that we have nice weather :) I plan to pack t-shirts
13:13 tired of cold and wet
13:14 matts yeah, of course... Indeed it will be so hot the hackfest will take place at the beach instead of Biblibre's office ;)
13:14 cait hehe
13:14 well i don't like hot... so just make it moderate ok? :)
13:15 matts ok, will do :)
13:15 (just hope Marseille's famous nasty wind won't be with us during this week)
13:16 cait :)
13:18 magnuse yeah, moderate and non-windy is on my wishlist too ;-)
13:19 janPasi_ Why are we getting this message: "For help, please send mail to the webmaster ([no address given] <mailto:%5Bno%20address%20given%5D>), giving this error message and
13:19 the time and date of the error."
13:19 ?
13:19 the koha_admin_email_address is set
13:20 cait janPasi: Where and when does the message appear?
13:22 mveron janPasi_:I suppose it is a crash in a .pl file? - I had similar thing, see bug 11773
13:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11773 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Crash 'undefined value as a HASH' in sco-main.pl
13:23 janPasi cait: there was some sort of temporary glitch when adding an item and that message appeared from koha staff client
13:24 tcohen janPasi: the code is not capturing an error condition
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13:24 tcohen we should capture it and print a proper error / warning message
13:24 janPasi however that message only appeared once, the next time it worked as expected
13:35 tcohen janPasi: it is definitely a bug, its a pity you cannot reproduce it so we fix it
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13:36 janPasi ok, i see
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15:09 cait jcamins: around?
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15:41 mveron Problem on German mailing list: After upgrad to Koha-Version 3.14.03 following error message whil displaying search results:
15:41 Template process failed: plugin error - KohaAuthorisedValues: plugin not found at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Templates.pm line 132.
15:41 What can be done?
15:41 jcamins mveron: you'll need to regenerate your translations.
15:42 mveron jcamins: Thanks, I will post this answer on German mailing list.
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16:06 kivilahtio LXC looks promising :)
16:06 c u later #Koha!
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16:06 tcohen hi jcamins
16:23 cait mveron: ah, now i see that my anser didn't go through :(
16:42 reiveune bye
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18:05 * cait waves
18:08 tcohen bye cait
18:08 cait tcohen: you leaving?
18:08 tcohen indeed :-D
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18:10 cait tcohen: have a nice evening :)
18:10 tcohen thanks!
18:10 i'll be online later
18:11 cait :)
18:11 tcohen slowly going back to normal :-D
18:11 cait no vacation can last forever :)
18:40 dpk1 hi.  What's Marcel's nick?
18:41 cait dpk: marcelr
18:41 but he is home by now i think - he is in europe
18:42 dpk1 Thanks.  I think my latest patch was created on a branch too far from head so didn't apply.  Rebasing now.
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18:59 fredericd Anyone get Koha SIP2 server failing on Debian Wheezy + Perl 5.14?
19:00 cait hm we are using Debian, but not sure about versions
19:00 no problems so far with 3.12.9
19:01 fredericd cait: thanks. Same Koha works on previous Debian version
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20:14 bag afternoon
20:14 wizzyrea sup bag
20:15 bag hello there wizzyrea
20:15 cait hi bag and wizzyrea :)
20:15 bag hey there cait
20:15 @wunder 93102
20:16 huginn` bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 20.2°C (12:15 PM PST on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
20:16 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
20:16 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:16 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on February 18, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
20:16 cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.1°C (8:30 PM CET on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
20:16 druthb @wunder 77098
20:16 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 26.1°C (2:16 PM CST on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
20:16 wizzyrea mm cloudy thouhg
20:16 cait brr
20:16 bag amazing day here - went for a nice walk this morning in the butterfly park
20:16 wow druthb 26!
20:16 wizzyrea yeah that's... unseasonable
20:17 druthb Nice spring day, in Houston.
20:18 Little early, but we were unseasonably *cold* last week.
20:20 wizzyrea mtompset about?
20:20 yea naw. ok
20:46 mveron @wunder Basel
20:46 huginn` mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 6.0°C (9:43 PM CET on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
20:46 mveron Good night #koha
21:06 francharb hi all
21:07 cait hi francharb
21:07 francharb how are you doing cait ?
21:07 cait still super busy but mostly ok
21:07 francharb great!
21:07 cait how are you doing? :)
21:07 francharb still super busy but mostly ok ;0
21:07 hehe
21:07 cait :)
21:10 francharb cait, when setting up a biblio framewok, do you know what  "flagged" is in the visibility options?
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21:10 cait my guess is noone knows
21:10 francharb ahah
21:11 I like that
21:11 cait when it got changed from the numbers to the checkboxes we wondered
21:11 wizzyrea heh yea
21:11 cait but it was ther ebefore and is now... but i am not persuaded it ctually does something
21:12 francharb I did activate/desactivate the option and cant see the difference... so yep, it may do nothing
21:12 I'll try a little further
21:13 thanks cait
21:14 wizzyrea it's a silly button, but we couldn't get the replacement of the ridiculous number scheme through without continuing to have the flagged box there.
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21:43 eythian hi
21:44 wizzyrea: sounds like we need a quiet little patch to remove it now then :)
21:44 wizzyrea heh.
21:44 where's that xkcd on features...
21:45 https://xkcd.com/1172/
21:48 cait wizzyrea++
21:48 thx :)
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21:58 francharb see you
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