IRC log for #koha, 2014-02-18

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02:21 wizzyrea koha really ought to have a "I agree to the conditions of use" on self registration
02:22 rangi im 99% sure those aren't close to actually binding
02:23 wizzyrea people still want it though :(
02:23 rangi like all silly ideas, they should pay double for it
02:23 dcook $$
02:24 wizzyrea :)
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04:02 eythian my handy hint for the day, see what instances have a particular syspref set to:
04:02 for i in $( sudo koha-list --enabled ) ; do echo 'select * from systempreferences where variable="ShowRecommendations";' | sudo koha-mysql $i ; done
04:06 dcook Nice, eythian
04:06 I was actually looking at that same type of one liner only yesterday to rename photos O_o
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07:03 * magnuse waves
07:05 magnuse eythian: see also http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]for_all_instances :-)
07:12 * magnuse took the liberty of adding eythian's oneliner to that page
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07:35 reiveune hello
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07:43 huginn` GERMS!!!!
07:43 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
07:43 cait good morning #koha
07:44 magnuse kia ora cait
07:44 @wunder marseille
07:44 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 8.5°C (8:44 AM CET on February 18, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
07:44 magnuse @wunder boo
07:45 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 18, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady).
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07:52 magnuse kia ora paul_p
07:53 paul_p kia ora magnuse & (others)
07:54 magnuse 42 attendees to the hackfest (not counting BibLibre) - 34+BibLibre on tuesday -
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07:55 magnuse paul_p: will there be enough chairs? :-)
07:55 or more importantly: enough electricity?
07:55 alex_a bonjour
07:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #16 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
07:57 paul_p magnuse = no problems for the chairs, we've booked 20 to the recycling NPO that is just on the left of our office ;-)
07:57 magnuse = about electricity, I don't fear any trouble. I've more concern for bandwitch (sdsl 10MB)
08:01 magnuse yeah, lets not all try to clone the koha repo at once :-)
08:02 kivilahtio I hope BibLibre employees have their own 3G/4G cellular networks?
08:04 at1234
08:13 cait paul_p: it's going to be huge this year :)
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08:13 paul_p cait yep.
08:13 cait paul_p: so another room next doorß
08:13 ?
08:14 paul_p kivilahtio some/few of us have
08:14 cait = I still hesitate... I think we will have enough room, just lacking chairs. And the NPO next door is really not an office...
08:14 lacking chairs & tables (that we've booked)
08:15 cait paul_p: maybe a tent in front of the buliding? ;)
08:15 i am not sure how many we were last year, so hard to tell for me
08:16 space is one thing, but maybe more difficult will be the noise of so many people hacking :)
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08:17 gaetan_B hello
08:17 wahanui niihau, gaetan_B
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08:18 Joubu1 hi
08:18 cait bonjour
08:18 * cait practices
08:18 paul_p cait = last year, on wed, we were 41 (including BibLibre). For now, up to 34 (not including BibLibre, something like 44-45 including)
08:19 cait héhé... on parle français sur ce canal alors ?
08:23 cait ah, so not all 42 external on one day?
08:24 paul_p: I don't think having conversations through google translate will work well :)
08:25 paul_p cait = nope, fortunately.
08:25 kivilahtio now that we got into the issue of 3G/4G. Is it possible for me to get a mobile broadband in France without a permanent residence?
08:26 paul_p kivilahtio I think yes, but can't guarantee
08:26 kivilahtio paul_p: Israel was the first country I've been to which was able to grant them for non residents, I hope France is the next
08:27 paul_p kivilahtio = if there's a problem, someone from BibLibre can come with you to buy it in your name.
08:27 kivilahtio if you promize you're not coming with the idea of killing our president
08:27 kivilahtio paul_p: that would be aswesome!
08:28 I won't
08:28 paul_p kivilahtio what would be awesome ? killing François Hollande ? :D :D
08:28 kivilahtio paul_p: also if you know of any adventurous BibLibre employees who wouldn't mind showing MArseilels to a stranger, would you kindly show them my way?
08:28 I am arriving the friday before the event
08:28 cait kivilahtio: i think in germany you'd just buy a prepaid cart for your phone
08:29 matts hi !
08:29 kivilahtio I haven't been to Germany on this millenium
08:29 paul_p kivilahtio many french ppl will probably think it's a good news, but I don't think all the silly things he is doing is worth being killed. the life of anyone is more precious than anything ;-)
08:29 (previous sentence not really valid...)
08:29 nevermind.
08:29 kivilahtio paul_p: sorry, I have pretty meager knowledge about French politics
08:30 paul_p: so I think I must admit that my AWESOME comment was for the "BibLibre can help me "-comment, not the killing the president
08:30 paul_p kivilahtio, our current president has almost reached the worst poll monthly statistics ever.
08:30 kivilahtio really?
08:30 paul_p kivilahtio I know, I was kidding :D
08:30 kivilahtio I have been following the foreign legion more
08:30 pulling some mighty operations in Africa
08:30 * magnuse thinks france should have elected Eva Joly
08:31 kivilahtio Mali
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08:33 paul_p kivilahtio unfortunately, the week end before & after the hackfest, I've other commitments :( But I'll ask BibLibre ppl. I'm sure someone there will be someone willing to come with you & show you Marseille surroundings.
08:33 magnuse = you arrive on saturday, right ? Would you be interested in visiting too ?
08:34 kivilahtio paul_p: Looking forward to it :)
08:36 yeah magnuse! Join up.
08:36 rangi kivilahtio: you should try to get to cassis
08:37 http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]e/cassis/DSC02165
08:38 i wonder if the rugby bar is still in marseille
08:38 paul_p rangi yes, it is (and it's 10mn, maybe 15, by foot, from our office)
08:39 rangi you could try to recreate the photo from 2006
08:39 http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]ille/1140334417_l
08:40 also you can go see the shushy baby http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]arseille/DSC02184
08:40 paul_p will know where that is :)
08:40 cait rangi: we could try, but ont without you :)
08:40 paul_p kivilahtio about cassis, it's true that it's a wonderful place. I may organise something for a dinner
08:42 kivilahtio I have been trying to find information about hte local Traceurs
08:42 in vain :(
08:43 nevermind now i got it :)
08:46 magnuse paul_p, kivilahtio: we arrive very late on saturday, i'll probably just hang out with the family on sunday...
08:46 * cait is trying to get pianohacker to have dinner with her on sunday
08:46 magnuse kivilahtio: if you are into architecture, "la cite radieuse" is a must :-)
08:47 cait i think dpavlin arrives after 7 as well
08:47 magnuse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]A9_d%27Habitation
08:48 paul_p cait = he wrote 9th, on the gdoc
08:48 oups, I've a meeting in 10mn. will be back soon...
08:48 cait yep, sunday, but after 7 at the airport i think :)
08:48 was talking about the time :)
08:49 kivilahtio: maybe we can figure out dinner on sunday? trying to get people together, but no real plan yet
08:51 mveron Good morning #koha
08:51 cait good morning mveron :)
08:51 kivilahtio: pm :)
08:51 mveron hi cait :-)
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08:58 * magnuse waves to Joubu
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09:08 Joubu hi magnuse
09:08 wahanui hi magnuse are you spending much time in oslo?
09:15 kivilahtio too much time?
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09:25 ashimema
09:29 kivilahtio are there any limitiations to Zebra versions Koha uses?
09:29 I was planning to put opac and staff_client to separate containers, but then I need to separate zebra server to it's own container
09:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #16: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.14.x/16/
09:40 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11336: update hold queue priorities correctly when deleting holds
09:40 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 11336: (follow-up) fixing capitalization in templates
09:40 * Galen Charlton: Bug 11336: (follow-up) correct change to POD for GetReserve()
09:40 * Galen Charlton: Bug 11336: (follow-up) improve POD for _FixPriority()
09:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11336 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Priority is not updated on deleting holds
09:40 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11336: (follow-up) fix typo in previous follow-up
09:40 * Galen Charlton: Bug 11470: fix occassional spurious test failure in Circulation_transfers.t
09:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11470 minor, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , Circulation_transfers.t can fail, spuriously
09:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #17: FAILURE in 28 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.14.x/17/
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10:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #18 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: FAILURE)
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11:10 Joubu Does someone know why we use "basket" in the code an "cart" on the interface?
11:10 and*
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11:15 cait Joubu: probably because it first was called basket... than someone thought that cart was better - reminding users of shopping systems?
11:15 could also be a nz/USA/UK term conflict, who knows :)
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11:36 cait Joubu: in other words i am wildly guessing :)
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12:14 Joubu cait: yes, it was my first answer too. So I will suppose "cart" is better.
12:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #18: NOW UNSTABLE in 2 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.14.x/18/
12:25 * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11316 - plugin icon missing tooltip in addbiblio.pl
12:25 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11342: fix error in OPAC self registration form if BorrowersTitles is empty
12:25 * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10429: improve display of library and library filter on serials claim page
12:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11316 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , plugin icon missing tooltip in addbiblio.pl
12:25 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 6886: ensure that singleBranchMode does not display library name for reference copies
12:25 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 6886: (follow-up) replace needless <xsl:choose> with <xsl:if>
12:25 * Galen Charlton: Bug 6886: (follow-up) remove redundant test for singleBranchMode
12:25 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 11260: Update German web installer for 3.14
12:25 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 11260: Update German web installer - frequencies and numberpatterns
12:25 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 11260: Follow up - normalizing frequencies in English sample file a bit
12:25 * Galen Charlton: Bug 11260: (follow-up) remove inadvertant change to English sample_z3950_servers.sql
12:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11342 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Error with opac self registration if BorrowersTitles is empty
12:25 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10429 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , branch filter not working in serial claims
12:25 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11260: (follow-up) repair German sample_z3950_servers.sql
12:25 * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 11483: Add missing serial help files
12:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6886 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Single branch mode should disable showing the branch name in front of all callnumbers
12:25 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11260 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Update German web installer
12:25 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11483: (follow-up) fix typos
12:25 * Chris Cormack: Bug 11457: avoid spurious test failure in t/db_dependent/Bookseller.t
12:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11483 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , new serial pages missing help
12:25 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7965: Silence warns in staff log
12:25 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11499: (regression tests) indexing modes not properly set on generated koha-conf.xml
12:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11457 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , t/db_dependent/Bookseller.t can fail when subscription table is not empty
12:25 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11499: UT: Make zebra_setup.pl correctly set indexing mode
12:25 * Robin Sheat: Bug 10646 - warn if mod_rewrite is not enabled
12:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7965 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , Silence warns in staff error log (koha-error_log)
12:25 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11475: fix return link after editing/deleting items in batch
12:25 * Julian Maurice: Bug 10952: Store anonymous search history in session
12:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11499 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , zebra_setup.pl not correctly setting indexing mode
12:25 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10646 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , mod_rewrite should be enabled by the postinst script
12:25 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 10952: (follow-up) comments fixes and unit tests
12:25 * Julian Maurice: Bug 10952: (follow-up) Always flush session after deletion
12:25 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10952: (follow-up) clear seach history from session after saving it to DB
12:25 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10952: (follow-up) remove mention of KohaOpacRecentSearches cookie
12:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11475 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Batch modification process ends with broken link
12:25 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10952 major, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Store anonymous search history in session
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12:27 tcohen morning #koha
12:27 magnuse has there been a message about translations for the next stable release that i missed?
12:28 ¡hola tcohen!
12:28 cait morning tcohen
12:28 tcohen strings have been pulled already magnuse
12:28 hi cait magnuse
12:30 cait tcohen: no warning? :)
12:30 magnuse tcohen: meaning the files on pootle have been updated?
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12:31 tcohen i asked bgkriegel about that yesterday, and hi told me pottle has already been updated
12:40 magnuse tcohen: do you know what the deadline for translating is?
12:40 ah, sorry, wrong person to ask
12:40 should ask fridolin
12:40 tcohen release date is 22nd each month
12:43 of course each rmaint candelay it for whatever reason
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13:14 mveron Hi again #koha
13:14 I wanted to sign off Bug 11256
13:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page
13:14 francharb good morning #koha
13:15 mveron It works with prog and ccsr, but not with bootstrap.
13:15 Should bootstrap be handled seperately?
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13:29 Joubu mveron: I just provided a followup for the bootstrap theme.
13:31 mveron Joubu:That was fast... Thanks. I hope to have time to proceed with Sign-off this evening.
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13:43 oleonard Hi #koha
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14:10 oleonard I think a bad shutdown of my VM has made bad things happen to my git repo: "fatal: bad default revision 'HEAD'"
14:10 Can anyone suggest how to set it right?
14:11 druthb rm -Rf .; git clone git://git.koha-community.org…..   :P
14:12 oleonard It's really that bad?
14:13 druthb maybe, maybe not.  My expertise level with git is so breathtakingly low that I find that solution easier than others.  YMMV.
14:15 Did you have uncommitted changes?  If not, you could try switching branches back and forth, see if that clarifies anything.
14:17 magnuse druthb!
14:17 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
14:18 druthb magnuse!
14:18 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
14:18 * druthb takes her breakfast burritos out of the microwave, juggling them—too hot!
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14:22 dbs mveron: is 11256 part of the omnibus bug 11310? I recently learned about the latter (a little too late!)
14:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11310 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Update XSLT stylesheets in bootstrap theme
14:24 dbs That said, my newer from-scratch branch actually does a better mapping to schema.org in some places, so if 11310 gets in I'll be able to supply a simple diff
14:25 mveron dbs: I do not know. But Joubu provided a followup for the bootstrap theme for Bug 11256
14:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page
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14:26 dbs mveron: yeah, looks like it's outside of the scope of the omnibus bug because it wasn't merged prior. ignore me :)
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14:26 rhcl >find / -name coffee -print
14:27 druthb Ned to wrap a while (1) {} loop around that, rhcl.
14:27 dbs s/-print/-exec cat {} > /usr \;/
14:28 bah. escape!
14:31 oleonard anyone else have any suggestions? Another variation of the error: unable to resolve reference HEAD: No such file or directory
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14:33 dbs oleonard: haven't run into it before, but "git reset origin/master" to try to get to a know state perhaps?
14:34 also, if VM, you have enough disk space left? running out of disk space can do "funny" things, as I discovered to my embarassment a few days back
14:34 oleonard "unable to resolve reference HEAD: No such file or directory; Cannot lock the ref 'HEAD'"
14:35 dbs: I believe the problem arose because of a bad shutdown of my VM
14:37 dbs oleonard: Right. http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]-no-such-ref-head is what turns up for me, but I would mirror your git clone first if you have any local branches you don't want to lose, just in case...
14:43 oleonard Thanks dbs that seems to have fixed it
14:43 dbs++
14:44 druthb dbs++
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14:54 cait dbs: still around?
14:54 reading back right now
14:55 dbs: i had checked for one of hte paragraphs and it looked like it was included, but maybe i was mistaken
14:55 dbs: talking about the xslt bug
14:55 maybe do a follow up to the XSLT omnibus if possible? that way we would avoid merge conflicts
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15:16 kivilahtio Just wanted to say, before I go home... CPU and RAM on deamnd with LXC, r0x0r!
15:16 *demand
15:23 cait hm
15:23 is the kc webseite down?
15:23 * cait tries to translate that
15:25 Joubu cait: it looks down here too
15:25 cait thx Joubu
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15:44 oleonard mveron++ # I noticed that patron image problem the other day but didn't do anything about it
15:47 * cait likes having mveron back :)
15:48 mveron :-)
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16:09 rhcl So we have patrons that come in everyday and use the public computers, which SIP check the Koha db for validity, but they never check out books....
16:10 These people will eventually have their cards go inactive. Is there a way to update an "activity" in the db to show they are still with the program?
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16:10 cait rhcl: hm i think currently there isn't
16:10 there is no timestamp on borrowers
16:10 rhcl based on a positive SIP check
16:10 jcamins rhcl: you have cards go inactive before they expire?
16:11 rhcl jcamins: yes
16:12 It looks like we need to address this, and our thought-of-the-moment is to simply extend the inactive time past when the card requires renewal
16:13 jcamins rhcl: the obvious workaround to me would be to just only mark cards inactive if they are expired, but if that wouldn't work, I don't have any ideas.
16:15 oleonard I agree. Expiration should happen before the inactivity cutoff so that when you're marking patrons as inactive you can exclude non-expired patrons
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16:17 AmitG hi all
16:17 heya bag
16:18 rhcl hi AmitG
16:18 AmitG hi rhcl
16:18 chris around?
16:19 hi druthb
16:19 jcamins It's a bit early for rangi.
16:26 mveron Bug 11784 - Patron images broken in Self checkout
16:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11784 minor, P3, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Patron images broken in Self checkout
16:27 AmitG Bug 11777
16:27 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11777 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, Needs Signoff , Created by name is not coming in order receiving page
16:27 AmitG Bug 11776
16:27 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11776 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, 'management' user permission is not used, remove or hide it
16:27 AmitG Bug 11778
16:27 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11778 is not accessible.
16:27 oleonard Bug 11570
16:27 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11570 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Upgrade jQueryUI to latest version in the staff client
16:36 dbs cait: back! the omnibus 11310 has my original RDFa work but I've learned a few new tricks since then & will open a new bug that builds on 11310 instead
16:37 cait dbs: that would be nice - thank you!
16:42 AmitG good night all
16:42 ;)
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17:01 oleonard upload-cover-image.pl's template is upload-images.tt. That is so wrong.
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17:13 * cait waves
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17:26 oleonard I would think we would want to prevent someone from submitting a news item without entering any content. Should title and body both be required?
17:30 Similarly, I would think that a new calendar entry should require at least a title.
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17:34 cait oleonard: hm not sure about the calendar entries
17:34 it works nice now without one
17:34 most of our libriares don't set titles I think
17:34 oleonard So it just lists the date with no other information?
17:34 cait I have seen that yet
17:34 yes
17:34 oleonard Okay
17:38 cait it might still be weird :)
17:47 reiveune bye
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18:15 cait marcelr++
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18:34 jcamins Wasn't that question about decoding MD5 hashes already answered?
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18:35 cait yes
18:35 maybe one message stuck becasue of unregistered mail or something?
18:37 jcamins That's very charitable of you.
18:38 * dbs dutifully files bug 11786 with patch for prog and bootstrap :)
18:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Improve RDFa schema.org mappings in prog and bootstrap
18:39 magnuse dbs++
18:40 oleonard It seems to be fairly common these days that if someone doesn't understand/like the answers they get on the list they simply repost the question.
18:41 jcamins oleonard: I like this approach. I shall e-mail the list asking whether I won the lottery, and e-mail the list again and again until the answer changes.
18:41 rangi dbs++
18:41 jcamins I'll even be able to avoid buying lottery tickets!
18:42 druthb jcamins++ #snark-o-meter pegged on that one.
18:45 dbs magnuse: I still need to tackle NORMARC / UNIMARC though!
18:45 magnuse yeah, see if you can beat me to it - run, run! ;-)
18:45 druthb tackling NORMARC involves arm-wrestling with large Norwegians  I mean, lookit 'im!
18:46 magnuse moahahaha (viking laugh)
18:46 * druthb fears!
18:47 magnuse betre bør du ber kje i bakken enn mannevit mykje!
18:48 druthb lol
18:50 magnuse huh, i have a server with the packages and two instances - one normal and one gitified. the normal one is normal, but the gitified one is suddenly giving me the 403 when i try access the opac. anyone else seen that?
18:52 the packages are from squeeze-dev
18:52 rangi all the norwegians are too busy winning all the gold medals in skiing
18:54 magnuse huh, i thought only norwegians paid attention to that?
18:55 cait it's olympics - have you seen all the gold medals for Germany? :)
18:55 dbs canadians pay attention too, although we generally just lose
18:55 (in nordic skiing; in made-up events like slopestyle and freestyle, well, hello there!)
18:59 druthb dbs:  and in women's hockey.  The trash-talking has reached a fever pitch.
18:59 magnuse cait: but we have more medals if you count all the different ones, apparently...
18:59 rangi i just like watching the snowboard cross
18:59 cait ice skating...
18:59 rangi eeww
18:59 cait :P
18:59 rangi actually the short track is fun
19:00 cait figure skating is fun
19:00 rangi theres not enough crashes in figure skating
19:01 cait oh, they do crash
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19:01 druthb If' there's not blood on the ice, then it's not a sport.  :P
19:02 cait but but but... htey have music!
19:03 jcamins cait: so does hockey.
19:03 cait glitter?
19:03 jcamins cait: you're legally required to listen to music from a dramatic fight while watching hockey.
19:04 cait glitter!
19:04 rangi id watch ice dancing, if the song was the ace of spades
19:04 cait :)
19:05 magnuse lemmy figureskating - now there is an image to ponder...
19:06 rangi heh
19:10 magnuse hm, wasn't there some change to apache where it refuses to serve stuff out of /home by default?
19:16 rangi 2.4 changed lots of stuff
19:17 including how you define permissions
19:19 magnuse yup, but now i'm having problems on 2.2.16
19:19 rangi hmm
19:19 no idea then
19:20 cait magnuse: but specific to that gitified installation?
19:21 magnuse i'm checking a gitified instance on another sverver now
19:22 gah, the instance i was thinking of isn't gitified (yet)...
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19:28 magnuse kia ora pianohacker and chris_n
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19:58 oleonard Adding new vendors broken in master?
19:58 DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'contact' in 'field list'
19:59 jcamins oleonard: sounds like you tested one of my patches that didn't make it in yet.
19:59 oleonard Yeah I did...Multiple contacts
19:59 jcamins Yup.
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20:05 oleonard Whatever happened to that jcamins?
20:05 jcamins oleonard: I need to rebase it again.
20:06 It's on my to-do list.
20:10 * magnuse tears his hair out
20:12 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "anyone seen this kind of error in opac-error.log before? (squeeze-dev packages, gitified, apache 2.2.16)" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/125
20:14 jcamins No, but I've seen that kind of error on non-Koha servers where the document root wasn't readable to the web server.
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20:14 rangi yeah
20:15 oleonard Hi rangi, thanks for the signoffs
20:16 rangi no worries
20:16 i got the some of the academy students doing the datatables one, ill try and get them to do the rest
20:21 * wizzyrea waves
20:22 * cait waves
20:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #48 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:23 Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #48: SUCCESS in 20 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Docs_3.12.x/48/
20:23 Nicole C. Engard: tools: update patron image size from 520K to 100K
20:23 oleonard Hi wizzyrea
20:24 magnuse DocumentRoot /home/magnus/kohawork/koha-tmpl - it used to work until apache got upgraded, as far as i know
20:24 * magnuse waves to wizzyrea and cait
20:25 jcamins magnuse: check owner permissions?
20:25 *owner/permissions
20:25 rangi yeah all the way through
20:26 ie if the user that apache is running as (are you using mpm-itk?)
20:26 has at least r-x on the dirs and r on the files
20:26 magnuse the files are owned by my user
20:27 -rwxr-xr-x 1 magnus magnus 2570 Jan 14 08:19 kohawork/opac/opac-main.pl
20:27 jcamins What I do is change the group to www-data.
20:27 rangi that looks fine
20:27 jcamins: if its packages the apache user wont be www-data
20:27 magnuse drwxr-xr-x  6 magnus magnus  4096 Feb 18 19:43 opac
20:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #20 for job Koha_Docs_3.14.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:27 rangi it'll be what is set
20:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #20: SUCCESS in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Docs_3.14.x/20/
20:27 * Nicole C. Engard: fix serials typo
20:27 * Nicole C. Engard: add numbering pattern upgrade note
20:28 magnuse AssignUserID nl-koha nl-koha
20:29 jcamins rangi: oh, right.
20:29 In that case, I'd probably set the group to nl-koha.
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20:30 magnuse "sudo chown -R magnus:nl-koha *" ?
20:31 rangi sudo chgrp -R nl-koha *
20:31 jcamins I usually do `sudo chgrp -R nl-koha kohawork`
20:32 rangi what he said :)
20:33 jcamins Or, at least, that's what I'd do if I had gitified an instance called nl and kept my repo at ~/kohawork.
20:33 rangi :)
20:33 magnuse which is what i have :-)
20:34 cait :)
20:35 magnuse still 403, same errors in the log
20:38 rangi i hate apache
20:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #344 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:39 jcamins Me too.
20:39 gmcharlt @quote random
20:39 huginn` gmcharlt: Quote #292: "Ashimema: looks like I've stumbled into that strange bit of the internet again" (added by wizzyrea at 09:13 PM, January 23, 2014)
20:39 * magnuse is starting to have doubts too
20:40 jenkins_koha Starting build #449 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:40 Project Koha_Docs build #449: SUCCESS in 37 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/449/
20:40 * Nicole C. Engard: fix serials typo
20:40 * Nicole C. Engard: add numbering pattern upgrade note
20:41 Starting build #1632 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:42 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11748 - Remove unused jquery.uitablefilter.js plugin <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7e42b02ad1f85932b> / Bug 11310: update the XSLT for the Bootstrap theme <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]48c83bf7e248d5551>
20:45 oleonard Bye #koha
20:47 pianohacker Lovely. A group of companies that subsist off of patents (http://innovationalliance.net/about/about-us) create the latest wonder; an HTML5 website with a loading screen! http://www.savetheinventor.com/
20:50 jcamins pianohacker: I support narrowly-defined patent law revision too. No software patents, no patents for things that are in common use.
20:52 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11765 - Remove unused function isDate from templates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5878a3b047abd4b82> / Bug 11764 - Move repeatedly redefined function toUC() into staff-global.js <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b54cd690dd36d6ff4> / Bug 11628: add missing staffaccess permission to French userflags.sql file <
20:52 pianohacker jcamins: I agree, and am having some really severe trouble figuring out what has made these people unhappy and why
20:53 jcamins I believe they object to reducing the scope of patent law to only include things that should be patentable, but I didn't look too closely.
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21:02 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11772: (follow-up) make warning about no active currency a link to currency setup... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9a1296302747c0c6b> / Bug 11772: Show warning on About page:System information if no active currency is... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e708ca598303fbcf1>
21:06 wizzyrea hm no mtompset again.
21:09 druthb I saw on mtompset's Facebook page that he's been taken off of code work at work—total fundraising mode.  So we probably won't see much of him for a while.
21:09 wizzyrea ah
21:12 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11753 - Replace jQuery qTip plugin with Bootstrap tooltip on patron search form <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d6ee26a340009a208> / Bug 11773: fix crash in sco-main.pl if no active currency is set <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1f66ef3517771cba5>
21:12 magnuse @seen mtompset
21:12 huginn` magnuse: mtompset was last seen in #koha 1 day, 15 hours, 56 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <mtompset> Thanks, rangi.
21:13 rhcl does mtompset work for a library?
21:15 jcamins No. He's a missionary.
21:16 rhcl ah
21:17 hence "total fundraising mode"
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21:20 magnuse don't mess with a missionary man! :-)
21:22 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11618: ensure jQuery timepicker is picked up by the i18n toolchain <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]59602e7c3aa2521f3>
21:24 eythian hi
21:25 rhcl hey eythian
21:25 wahanui well, eythian is great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem.
21:28 pianohacker ouch
21:32 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11743 - Remove unused DataTables plugin from OPAC theme directories <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6497d860f6c5e95ed>
21:32 magnuse kia ora eythian
21:35 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #344: SUCCESS in 57 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/344/
21:35 Galen Charlton: Bug 11310: update the XSLT for the Bootstrap theme
21:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11310 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update XSLT stylesheets in bootstrap theme
21:40 magnuse success! \o/
21:42 rangi yay!
21:42 what was it?
21:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #345 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:43 magnuse oh, i was just trying to chear myself up with the success of "Project master_maria build #344"
21:43 i am getting set up on another server, which seems to be working fine
21:43 i'll see if i can figure out my problem on the first server some other day (yeah, right...)
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21:52 * wajasu playing with Test::DBIx::Class::Schema to see how it does with master Koha::Schema.
21:53 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10789: Follow-up: restored second SQL parameter in GetLastOrderReceivedFromSubscr... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5b15021b14b1bef78> / Bug 10789: Follow-up: Fix typo "infermation" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]baa6e27ef5e744e30> / Bug 10789: Remove unnecessary calls to $sth->finish in C4::Acquisitions <h
21:53 tcohen hi eythian
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22:04 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11730: ensure that C4::Charset loads C4::Context <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]49b769e8285d1f0c8>
22:04 * magnuse sets the alarm for 04:45
22:05 rhcl There is no life at 0445
22:05 cait ew
22:07 dcook :(
22:08 magnuse no life for sure, but there is a plane at 07:00
22:09 wizzyrea zoom
22:11 magnuse and a taxi at 06:00
22:12 wizzyrea beep beep
22:13 * magnuse looks quizzically at wizzyrea
22:14 * wizzyrea shrugs
22:14 magnuse yay, looks like i finally have a working demo of my work on bug 11401
22:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Add support for Norwegian national library card
22:19 magnuse have fun, #koha!
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22:37 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #345: SUCCESS in 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/345/
22:37 * Owen Leonard: Bug 11748 - Remove unused jquery.uitablefilter.js plugin
22:37 * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11628: add missing staffaccess permission to French userflags.sql file
22:37 * Owen Leonard: Bug 11764 - Move repeatedly redefined function toUC() into staff-global.js
22:37 * Owen Leonard: Bug 11765 - Remove unused function isDate from templates
22:38 * Marc Veron: Bug 11772: Show warning on About page:System information if no active currency is defined
22:38 * Galen Charlton: Bug 11772: (follow-up) make warning about no active currency a link to currency setup page
22:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11748 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove unused jquery.uitablefilter.js plugin
22:38 jenkins_koha * Marc Veron: Bug 11773: fix crash in sco-main.pl if no active currency is set
22:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11628 normal, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , staffaccess permission is missing in french userflags.sql file
22:38 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11753 - Replace jQuery qTip plugin with Bootstrap tooltip on patron search form
22:38 * Owen Leonard: Bug 11618: ensure jQuery timepicker is picked up by the i18n toolchain
22:38 * Owen Leonard: Bug 11743 - Remove unused DataTables plugin from OPAC theme directories
22:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11764 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move repeatedly redefined function toUC() into staff-global.js
22:38 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11765 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove unused function isDate from templates
22:38 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11772 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Show warning on About page:System information if no active currency is defined
22:38 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11773 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Crash 'undefined value as a HASH' in sco-main.pl
22:38 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11753 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace jQuery qTip plugin with Bootstrap tooltip on patron search form
22:38 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11618 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , jQuery timepicker is not picked up by the i18n toolchain
22:38 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11743 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove unused DataTables plugin from OPAC theme directories
22:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #346 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:43 rangi gmcharlt: you about?
22:44 gmcharlt what's up?
22:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1632: SUCCESS in 2 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1632/
22:44 Galen Charlton: Bug 11310: update the XSLT for the Bootstrap theme
22:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11310 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update XSLT stylesheets in bootstrap theme
22:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #1633 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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23:01 eythian wizzyrea or anyone else: would people typically use 952$e (source of acquisition) to indicate who a donation was from?
23:03 wizzyrea That is one place, I think NEKLS does it there lms
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23:03 eythian Presumably it doesn't show up in the OPAC
23:05 dcook I have a library using 541, I think
23:06 wizzyrea 541 is sounding kind of familiar...
23:06 dcook Although it's not hidden from the OPAC...
23:06 At least not with the non-XSLTs in 3.8 :p
23:06 * dcook has that one on the "to do" list
23:07 eythian dcook: mtompset has a patch that allows any field to be totally hidden from the OPAC. That is, it filters the record before passing it on to anything else.
23:08 You specify in the framework that you want it to not be hidden from the OPAC, and it won't even show up in the MARC view.
23:08 rangi its a good idea, i should test that patch
23:10 eythian bug 11592
23:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11592 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Passed QA , opac scripts do not respect MARC tag visibility
23:11 rangi oh i dont need to
23:11 cool
23:19 dcook eythian: The 541 should be controlled by the first indicator in this case though
23:20 As it can be a private or a public note
23:20 Marc...
23:20 gmcharlt rangi: you had pinged me?
23:20 rangi oh yeah
23:20 i was thinking, for the future
23:21 when we tag security releases maybe a -sec on the end
23:21 (the git tag that is)
23:29 gmcharlt no objections
23:29 but do you know of entities that are specifically looking for such?
23:38 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #346: SUCCESS in 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/346/
23:38 * Colin Campbell: Bug 10789: Remove unnecessary calls to $sth->finish in C4::Acquisitions
23:38 * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10789: Follow-up: Fix typo "infermation"
23:38 * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10789: Follow-up: restored second SQL parameter in GetLastOrderReceivedFromSubscriptionid
23:38 * Stéphane Delaune: Bug 11730: ensure that C4::Charset loads C4::Context
23:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Excessive and often incorrect use of finish in C4::Acquisitions
23:39 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11730 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , C4::Charset call C4::Context without use it
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23:41 wizzyrea is there a situation where someone would have en and en-GB wanted as switchable languages. I suppose it's a mad scheme so someone will want to do it.
23:41 gmcharlt a library straddling the US/Canadian border?
23:41 dunno
23:42 wizzyrea I should say, switchable regions, because en-GB isn't a language, it's a region.
23:43 dcook I don't think we'd use en-GB in Canada O_o
23:43 rangi umm
23:43 dcook wizzyrea: Totes a mad scheme that I could imagine someone wanting
23:43 rangi id say en-gb is the language
23:43 everythign else is a dialect of it
23:43 by definition
23:43 dcook hehe
23:43 gmcharlt dcook: well, I don't see any en-CA localization being maintained...
23:44 dcook gmcharlt: True. I wonder which locale would be closer for Canadians...
23:44 We have the Us but we also have Zs...
23:44 wizzyrea a better example probably is chinese, but I don't have that code at the top of my head
23:44 gmcharlt so absent that, a Canadian library that doesn't want to drop their 'u's would presumably pick between en-GB and en-NZ
23:45 rangi there is zh_cn and zh_tw
23:45 dcook Maybe although I think more Canadians would be familiar with American English than British English
23:45 rangi those are quite different
23:45 * wizzyrea installs en-GB and sees what happens
23:46 rangi en_gb is not as translated as en_nz fwiw
23:46 wizzyrea that's fine, I only care about the display of listed languages.
23:46 listed regions of languages
23:46 gmcharlt dcook: as a data point, one of our Canadian customers ended up using en-GB
23:47 dcook gmcharlt: Neat! I wonder if the decision maker was 40-50+ though ;).
23:47 * dcook pities his future children...
23:47 gmcharlt dcook: no idea
23:47 rangi wizzyrea: sweet
23:47 wizzyrea gu4d4lc4n4l
23:48 rangi gmcharlt: only me
23:48 when im looking back through the tags
23:48 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11709: revisions to Bootstrap OPAC lists interface <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]873e227c8bb043bfc>
23:48 gmcharlt ♪ another one (password) bites the dust... ♪
23:48 dcook gmcharlt: I'm sure linguists must have a fun time trying to figure out Canada. My parents will still use a lot of British spelling and grammar, but also use Fahrenheit
23:49 gmcharlt rangi: fair enough
23:49 dcook Whereas younger people will use American spelling and grammar (with the exception of the Us and some metric spellings), but use Celsius...but then certain Imperial measurements...as well as some metric ones..
23:50 pianohacker wizzyrea?
23:50 wahanui it has been said that wizzyrea is silly
23:50 wizzyrea sighs.
23:51 pianohacker Hmm, /haxx wizzyrea isn't a command
23:51 wizzyrea everything that uses that one is already changed heh.
23:52 pianohacker I did something like that at linux user's group a year ago, was doing a Vim presentation with a really fancy keystroke display and typed in my university password...
23:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #347 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:53 dcook pianohacker: Eep!
23:54 pianohacker Ripped out that VGA cable, changed password, *then* took my next breath
23:55 wizzyrea canada sounds like a crazy place for learning the local spelling.
23:57 dcook pianohacker: Whew!
23:57 wizzyrea: Without a doubt.
23:57 Especially when you grow up on the Canada-US border O_O
23:58 wizzyrea: How do you find it in NZ? I tend to spell/speak Canadian, but I find myself defaulting to Aussie sometimes just because it's so pervasive..
23:58 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11649 - Always use words "copy number" - opac prog <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ad16d06169fe97279> / Bug 11649 - Always use words "copy number" - opac bootstrap <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ab51c80873ef872fc> / Bug 11649 - Always use words "copy number" - intranet <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?
23:59 wizzyrea my computer(s) generally keep me in line with local spellings.

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