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| 01:20 | rangi | and another thread ruined |
| 01:20 | that guy is toxic | |
| 01:21 | jcamins | At least he's contributing as RMaint. |
| 01:22 | Wait... | |
| 01:22 | rangi | heh |
| 01:22 | now i feel the need to defend an idea, i dont actually give a crap about eitherway | |
| 01:23 | ibeardslee | .. do you need to defend the idea or just feel you need to? |
| 01:23 | rangi | well the idea is fine |
| 01:23 | and we cant let the last word on every thread by a person who has contributed nothing to koha | |
| 01:24 | except grief | |
| 01:24 | * dcook | looks at his web browser then sees black as he thumps his head against his desk |
| 01:24 | * wizzyrea | pats dcook "I feel that way about IE too." |
| 01:24 | eythian | I'll let you do the replying this time :D |
| 01:25 | dcook | wizzyrea: I was referring to the email (had to look at the archive online as I just get the digests) |
| 01:25 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 01:25 | I figured it was something like that, but I have to get my digs in on IE where I can. | |
| 01:25 | dcook | hehe |
| 01:25 | ;) | |
| 01:25 | Toxic is certainly the exact word... | |
| 01:31 | rangi | not my best work |
| 01:31 | but i didnt want to leave nora having to read that attack without a quick rebuttal right after | |
| 01:32 | masscat are paying for NCIP in koha .. what exactly have you done for us lately Paul A | |
| 01:34 | jcamins | Ohhh. That's why "Kohana" sounded familiar. |
| 01:34 | Kohala. | |
| 01:34 | dcook | Good rebuttal, me thinks |
| 01:34 | rangi | kohana is also i think a couple of other projects |
| 01:34 | eythian | There's also a Dutch kohala, I think |
| 01:35 | rangi | you bump into it on ohloh |
| 01:35 | eythian | http://www.kohala.nl/ <-- not very updated |
| 01:36 | rangi | https://www.ohloh.net/p?query=[…]na&sort=relevance |
| 01:36 | mtj | hey folks... |
| 01:36 | fwiw, the australian koha librarians wanted (and have) their own mailing-list, too | |
| 01:37 | it was set up last year | |
| 01:37 | rangi | yep |
| 01:37 | im on it | |
| 01:37 | its pretty low traffic | |
| 01:37 | but they do talk about regional stuff | |
| 01:38 | mtj | … they possibly had the sense to not mention it on the Koha list :p |
| 01:38 | dcook | Yeah, I'm on Koha-oz as well. Very low traffic. I think they organize things in Melbs from time to time though. |
| 01:39 | mtj | http://lists.koha-community.or[…]/listinfo/koha-oz |
| 01:39 | dcook | I would probably go if there were a meetup in Sydney |
| 01:40 | rangi | yeah we have had 2 koha nz meetings |
| 01:40 | just one day things | |
| 01:49 | * mtj | looking forward to that thread getting derpier... |
| 01:51 | rangi | im not :) |
| 01:52 | mtj | yeah, actually, thats not even funny :/ |
| 01:53 | rangi | its actually becoming a real problem |
| 01:54 | if every post is gonna derped on, people are gonna stop fast | |
| 01:58 | mtj | its a chore to have to response sensibly to the negitive thread hijacking |
| 02:02 | rangi, …but i think your responses carry the most 'weight' | |
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| 03:43 | mtj | peeps, does anyone have any experience with using a <<items.fine>> placeholder, in their ODUE notices template? |
| 03:44 | i've been experimenting with it, have have realized it doesn't quite do what i thought it did :/ | |
| 03:45 | it seems to actually display a rental charge, for an item - not a 'fine' | |
| 03:45 | brendan_ | mtj: is there an items.fine ? |
| 03:46 | mtj | well, its not an actual column, in the items table |
| 03:46 | brendan_ | right |
| 03:49 | mtj | its a 'virtual' column, that is sometimes added to an item hash |
| 03:50 | ...who's value is fetched from GetIssuingCharges() | |
| 03:53 | hmm, just taking another look... | |
| 03:57 | woah, it just worked :) | |
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| 04:22 | mtj | hey, so ignore those comments ^^ |
| 04:22 | seems to be working fine :) | |
| 05:35 | dcook | So I can load SQL from the database that contains "@tag" |
| 05:35 | But if I try to manually write it into the SQL in a Perl script, I get errors.. | |
| 05:35 | Possible unintended interpolation of @tag in string | |
| 05:35 | :S | |
| 05:36 | This @tag being Xpath not an array variable.. | |
| 05:37 | mtj | sounds like a quoting issue |
| 05:37 | dcook | Agreed. I've tried a few different quoting methods but I must be missing something |
| 05:38 | mtj | http://perldoc.perl.org/perlop[…]te-like-Operators |
| 05:38 | dcook | Yeah, that's what I'm looking at at the moment :/ |
| 05:39 | mtj | try a here-doc ? |
| 05:39 | dcook | That was the first thing I tried :( |
| 05:40 | mtj | http://perlmaven.com/here-documents |
| 05:40 | gmcharlt | dcook: might this be interfering? http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refma[…]er-variables.html |
| 05:43 | dcook | Ah, it looks like I wasn't doing my heredoc correctly |
| 05:43 | I was using <<SQL; | |
| 05:43 | Not <<'SQL'; | |
| 05:44 | gmcharlt | ah, yes, that would cause interpolation |
| 05:44 | dcook | I see that now, hehe |
| 05:44 | thanks mtj and gmcharlt :) | |
| 05:48 | Despite the similarities, PHP and Perl sure are different beasts | |
| 05:49 | Sweet! | |
| 05:49 | My wife forgot her laptop charger back in Canada and it turns out the accommodation still has it in their lost and found | |
| 05:49 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7934: generate separate PO files for help pages <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]aaa3737b85f330e93> |
| 05:54 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1555 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1547 6 days 9 hr ago) |
| 05:56 | mtj | cool, good to hear you got it sorted dcook |
| 05:56 | dcook | :) |
| 05:57 | mtj | i made the same quoting mistake with a heredoc, a few months ago |
| 05:59 | dcook | Not a bad mistake to make, as it's a good thing to know :) |
| 06:02 | mtj | is it just me, or is FF waay slower than chrome for dev work? |
| 06:02 | dcook | Hmm, I tend to only use Chrome/Chromium |
| 06:02 | I got tired of FF as it was way slower for regular browsing on my laptop a few years ago | |
| 06:03 | mtj | hmm, tho i do have a bunch more plugins running on my FF |
| 06:03 | dcook | Mind you, one of the latest Chrome builds for Debian didn't play well with my VM... |
| 06:03 | mtj | ahh |
| 06:04 | heres a better Q, does anyone know of a small FF plugin to page-load time? | |
| 06:06 | dcook | Alas, I do not, and I gotta run. Good luck! |
| 06:06 | mtj | something small/fast - not firebug :p |
| 06:07 | np, google has a bunch of results | |
| 06:14 | this looks perfect... -> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-[…]ddon/apptelemetry | |
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| 06:24 | cait | gmcharlt++ |
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| 06:35 | * Oak | waves |
| 06:36 | cait | ah, now i missed dcook again... no report about tuesday |
| 06:36 | hi Oak :) | |
| 06:36 | Oak | hey cait :) |
| 06:36 | * mtompset | waves good bye. |
| 06:37 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. :) |
| 07:01 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 07:01 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -2.6°C (8:00 AM CET on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:01 | cait | brr |
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| 07:28 | cait | morning magnuse |
| 07:28 | * cait | is a bit unhappy how the mailing list discussion turned out |
| 07:29 | cait | my first reaction was not so positive as well, but I think i can see the point now |
| 07:32 | * magnuse | needs to read up on the lists |
| 07:37 | magnuse | Bug 7934 |
| 07:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7934 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Separate po file for help pages |
| 07:37 | magnuse | confetti! |
| 07:37 | wahanui | rumour has it confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
| 07:37 | magnuse | confetti! |
| 07:37 | wahanui | i think confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
| 07:37 | magnuse | confetti! |
| 07:37 | wahanui | well, confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
| 07:37 | magnuse | confetti! |
| 07:37 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 07:37 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 07:37 | cait | bgkriegel++ |
| 07:37 | magnuse | bgkriegel++ cait++ gmcharlt++ |
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| 07:43 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:44 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 07:45 | reiveune | hi magnuse, cait, kathryn, rangi :) |
| 07:45 | cait | hi reiveune :) |
| 07:48 | bbiab | |
| 07:57 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1555: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1555/ |
| 07:57 | Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 7934: generate separate PO files for help pages | |
| 07:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7934 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Separate po file for help pages |
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| 08:00 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 08:00 | * magnuse | waits impatiently for his new laptop |
| 08:00 | magnuse | bonjour alex_a |
| 08:00 | @wunder marseille | |
| 08:00 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is -0.3°C (9:00 AM CET on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:00 | magnuse | hah, i can beat that! |
| 08:00 | @wunder boo | |
| 08:00 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:50 AM CET on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:00 | magnuse | muharharhar |
| 08:03 | alex_a | bonjour magnuse |
| 08:07 | magnuse | alex_a: cold(ish) today? |
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| 08:09 | magnuse | bonjour sophie_m |
| 08:09 | sophie_m | bonjour magnuse :-) |
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| 08:10 | alex_a | No magnuse, beautiful day today |
| 08:10 | @wunder gueret | |
| 08:10 | huginn | alex_a: The current temperature in Limoges, France is 7.0°C (9:00 AM CET on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:11 | magnuse | yeah, that does look nice |
| 08:11 | * magnuse | never remembers who amongst the biblibre crew is actually in marseille |
| 08:12 | magnuse | hiya busla - in iceland? |
| 08:12 | busla | magnuse: hey, yes |
| 08:12 | magnuse | very cool! |
| 08:12 | busla | no.. very coooold! |
| 08:12 | magnuse | any koh action there? |
| 08:12 | hehe | |
| 08:12 | * magnuse | is in Bodø, Norway |
| 08:13 | magnuse | @wunder reykjavik |
| 08:13 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Perlukor, Kopavogur, Iceland is -0.8°C (8:06 AM GMT on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 28.88 in 978 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:14 | busla | how north is Bodo? |
| 08:15 | magnuse | just nort of the arctic circle |
| 08:15 | well, 1,5-2 hours drive north of it | |
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| 08:20 | magnuse | wow, looks like liceland is just below the arctic circle? |
| 08:20 | * magnuse | never thought about that before... |
| 08:20 | waves to cait | |
| 08:21 | * cait | waves back |
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| 09:04 | cait | morning barton and ashimema |
| 09:05 | ashimema | morning cait |
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| 10:25 | rjones_ | hi |
| 10:26 | i am a newbie to koha and need some help | |
| 10:26 | cait | hi rjones_ |
| 10:26 | what's your question? | |
| 10:27 | rjones_ | I am trying to install koha in CentOS. I was following the howto in http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]tos_6.3_x86_64_en. |
| 10:27 | Installation went on fine. At the end when I try to access koha page (web installer) from my pc (using http://koha.domainname:8008), it redirects me to the the maintenance.pl page with a message System maintenance The Koha online catalog is offline for system maintenance. We'll be back soon! If you have any questions, please contact the site administrator.. | |
| 10:29 | cait | hmm |
| 10:30 | did you change the ports? | |
| 10:30 | rjones_ | i got no clue where i am going wrong |
| 10:30 | cait | that should show in opac |
| 10:30 | and is normal | |
| 10:30 | but on the staff side you should get a login to run the web installer | |
| 10:30 | are you bound to CentOS? | |
| 10:30 | rjones_ | yes... |
| 10:30 | cait | it's a lot easier to install on ubuntu or debian because of the packages |
| 10:30 | i'd say check your virutalhost configuraton in apache | |
| 10:30 | there are 2 interfaces | |
| 10:30 | mtj | rjones_, your apache stuff will be incorrect, from that guide |
| 10:31 | cait | by default the opac should be running on port 8 |
| 10:31 | 80 | |
| 10:31 | and staff interface should run from 8080 | |
| 10:31 | right, looks like a typo? | |
| 10:32 | 8008 vs. 8080 | |
| 10:32 | rjones_ | hmm yes |
| 10:32 | mtj | this file is probably incorrect -> /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf |
| 10:33 | "Define your web server ports for Koha opac and staff interfaces. A sample setting is given below. You can customize web configuration for your needs. " | |
| 10:36 | rjones_ | so, u need me to try changing ports? |
| 10:36 | mtj | sorry, bbiab... |
| 10:38 | rjones_, i recommend installing koha in a debian vm, with .deb packages - for your first attempt | |
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| 10:40 | mtj | …then you can use your working debian Koha, to help with your Centos install |
| 10:41 | there is an important step missing from the install guide, that you are using | |
| 10:43 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ion_Documentation | |
| 10:43 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze | |
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| 10:52 | rjones_ | mtj, i got disconnected |
| 10:53 | which step am i missing? | |
| 10:56 | cait | khall_away: ping :) |
| 10:56 | i thnk nothing in between | |
| 10:56 | rjones_: mtj didn't say more after posting the links | |
| 10:57 | i thnk if you changed the port in that file /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf | |
| 10:57 | from probably 8080 to 8008 and restart apache, that could work | |
| 10:58 | rjones_ | right now, its in 8008 port...nothing in 8080 |
| 11:00 | magnuse | on debian, apache has a config file called ports.conf, where you have to tell it to listen to the ports you run koha on |
| 11:01 | maybe you have to add "Listen 8008" there, if that is what you want to use | |
| 11:02 | rjones_ | i tried adding a virtualhost block entry in httpd.conf file too for port 8008 |
| 11:04 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "this is my ports.conf on ubuntu" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/31 |
| 11:05 | cait | rjones_: hm there should already be an entry - one for staff oen for opac |
| 11:05 | you shouldn't have to add something new from scratch | |
| 11:05 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "...and on debian" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/32 |
| 11:06 | rjones_ | what will be the staff login and opac login url's by default? |
| 11:06 | cait | if you have localhost it would be: localhost and localhost:8080 |
| 11:06 | for opac and staff by default | |
| 11:06 | that's why whe were surprised about the centos instructions | |
| 11:08 | rjones_ | hmm yes...i thought the wiki info wont have any errors |
| 11:13 | cait | rjones_: lots of people write there |
| 11:13 | and only very few are using centos | |
| 11:13 | rjones_ | :( |
| 11:13 | cait | it's hard to keep everything current |
| 11:13 | maybe that library was already using 8080 for something else | |
| 11:13 | and therefore did the change on purpose | |
| 11:14 | rjones_ | so, what could be the possible correction i have to make ? |
| 11:30 | * rjones_ | slaps mtj around a bit with a large fishbot |
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| 11:39 | magnuse | there is no way in koha to charge per reminder, right? so that one reminder would cost the same, regardsless of the number of items/issues you are reminded about? |
| 12:12 | cait | magnuse: not currently - there might be a bug tho about having some kind of per letter fee |
| 12:14 | magnuse | ooh, i better take another look for that |
| 12:17 | cait | bug 11092 |
| 12:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Need a processing fee and billing fee on late notices. |
| 12:17 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 12:19 | * cait | grumps a little because it seems totally possible to have non-existing branchcodes in statistics and issues :( |
| 12:19 | magnuse | hm, i wonder if that would allow the fee per item to be zero, and then have the billing fee be the only fee? |
| 12:20 | cait | overdues are independent from fines, so yep |
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| 13:30 | magnuse | gooooood morning americas! |
| 13:32 | * cait | waves |
| 13:33 | oleonard | Hi rest-of-the-world |
| 13:33 | NateC | hiya magnuse! |
| 13:33 | oleonard | How's Tuesday so far? Should I stick with it? |
| 13:34 | magnuse | yeah, not to shabby i think |
| 13:34 | s/to/too/ | |
| 13:34 | oleonard | Alright fine. |
| 13:35 | * oleonard | stays at work |
| 13:36 | cait | oleonard: it's ... meh. |
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| 13:37 | * cait | had wrong non-existing branchcodes in issues and is a bit grumpy now |
| 13:40 | pablito | hi all |
| 13:40 | hi cait | |
| 13:40 | how are you? | |
| 13:47 | cait | bit grumpy, but overall ok |
| 13:49 | pablito | work related eh? |
| 13:49 | cait | I am almost over it :) |
| 13:49 | PabloAB | Hi all! |
| 13:49 | pablito | hehe |
| 13:49 | hola PabloAB! | |
| 13:49 | :-) | |
| 13:50 | PabloAB | I have an existentialistic question |
| 13:50 | Here the librarians want to use some holdings subfields not defined by Koha, like 952$k, $f or $i (and we don't need some defined) but we are afraid of using lets say $k, and then on Koha 6.7 this one is used for something else. In the past we tried to redefined already used subfields, but changes are overwritten on every upgrade. What is the best way to manage this local holding data? The less nasty way I've found is to somehow code all this things on 952$x. | |
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| 13:51 | cait | hm |
| 13:51 | $i is used | |
| 13:51 | and so is $f | |
| 13:51 | I have good experience with using upper case letters | |
| 13:52 | and not map, then the subfield will be saved to more_subfields_xml | |
| 13:52 | i is mapped to stocknumber for an inventory number | |
| 13:52 | PabloAB | I know, $f not mapped (AFIK) to a SQL field other than xml_other_subfields |
| 13:52 | cait | what kind of information are you trying to add? |
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| 13:53 | PabloAB | Numeric, dates, dates of items going and coming from the repair section |
| 13:53 | (book binding) | |
| 13:55 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 13:56 | cait: i was indeed a big and awesome party ;P | |
| 13:56 | PabloAB | Other things are for eg type of book bindings, for every time the item is repair |
| 13:57 | tcohen | irc logs? |
| 13:57 | wahanui | irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
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| 14:03 | tcohen | ashimema: have you tried the patch for the daemon? |
| 14:04 | @later tell rangi could you remove your "originmaster" branch? It makes tab-completion uncomfortable ;-) | |
| 14:04 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:05 | PabloAB | So, you say to simply add uppercase subfields, and of course not map them to anything. This won't get us into any trouble? We were afraid also of using ß or µ or æ. Librarian create & with unexpected results: Bug 9874. |
| 14:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9874 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Adding subfield «ampersand» produce unexpected behaviours |
| 14:06 | tcohen | bug pimping? |
| 14:09 | why would you want to use non-ASCII characters for naming subfields? | |
| 14:09 | PabloAB | Librarians sometimes are too creative :P |
| 14:11 | OK, we'll use uppercase, thanks a lot cait! :) | |
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| 14:19 | tcohen | should we limit subfield codes to ASCII chars? |
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| 14:22 | tcohen | gmcharlt: does MARC::Record have any limitation on the subfield tags it can handle? |
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| 14:30 | cait | PabloAB: we have used it for storing migration data - like old systemnumbers |
| 14:31 | no problems found so far | |
| 14:31 | PabloAB: there is a new feature that will store the date something was set to withdrawn and lost... maybe custom status plus that could be a nice feature for you in the future -or a bindng module, but i don't see that coming right now | |
| 14:36 | PabloAB | Yes, sadly. Thanks a lot! Now I'll write something a little bit related to koha-devel, about nicely add defined "date subfields" nicely with Javascript. |
| 14:39 | cait | sounds interesting :) |
| 14:40 | btw. i think $f is only used when you use acq... I didn't get to check,quite busy today | |
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| 14:45 | gmcharlt | tcohen: no |
| 14:53 | cait | i think uppercase are a problem with solr iirc |
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| 15:00 | cait | tcohen: hm i thnk one of the patches pushed to 3.12 doesn't do its job |
| 15:00 | tcohen | which one?? |
| 15:00 | wahanui | which one is that? The fixed navbar? |
| 15:00 | cait | se |
| 15:00 | c | |
| 15:01 | fighting a bit with git | |
| 15:02 | bug 10027 | |
| 15:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10027 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Fine details not showing when printing a fine |
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| 15:03 | cait | tcohen: trying to print a slip for a payment |
| 15:03 | tcohen | let me check |
| 15:03 | that was a couple of days ago | |
| 15:04 | cait | aah, maybe we never fixed it for payments, but only for invoices |
| 15:05 | it looks likely | |
| 15:05 | and there seems to be a regression between 3.6 (my only install i can compre it too) and 3.12.7 | |
| 15:05 | i will file a bug | |
| 15:06 | tcohen | ok |
| 15:06 | i only recall bug 10376 | |
| 15:06 | cait | sorry, got confused :) 2 different slips |
| 15:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10376 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Printing cart does not work under IE9 |
| 15:06 | tcohen | ok :-D |
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| 15:13 | tcohen | cait: do u remeber a situation where item type images are not listed on item type creation? |
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| 15:14 | rambutan | gmcharlt is a poet |
| 15:15 | cait | hm nope. |
| 15:17 | rambutan | yes he is |
| 15:17 | cait | that was for tcohen :) |
| 15:17 | rambutan | :) |
| 15:17 | cait | i agree about gmcharlt |
| 15:17 | * druthb | pokes rambutan gently with her pointy stick. |
| 15:18 | rambutan | ouch! |
| 15:18 | that hurt | |
| 15:19 | druthb | puh. wimp. |
| 15:19 | gmcharlt | apropos of absolutely nothing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?f[…]ded&v=jm3dm5J5r0A |
| 15:26 | oleonard | Now we know what gmcharlt is getting all of us for Christmas |
| 15:27 | alphaman | hairballs? |
| 15:27 | gmcharlt | *cough* |
| 15:27 | *hack* | |
| 15:27 | *cough* | |
| 15:28 | oleonard | alphaman: If your cat gives *you* hairballs then you're doing it wrong |
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| 15:31 | talljoy | morning #koha |
| 15:32 | rambutan | that's an unbelievably cooperative cat |
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| 15:38 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1556 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1547 6 days 18 hr ago) |
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| 15:40 | * druthb | was confused for a moment. Read rambutan's last as "an unbelievably cooperative cait" and was reading the scrollback—but cait is cooperative all the time…. |
| 15:41 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11249: DBRev 3.15.00.006 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b020968de863bd8ed> / Bug 11249: Add Db indexes on borrowers names <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9796debe80ae7b3a8> |
| 15:41 | rambutan | has anybody actually tried to wrap her? |
| 15:41 | ashimema | oh dear.. |
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| 15:42 | ashimema | from the sounds she's about to go drink lots of mulled wine.. I imagine she'd be muhc mroe co-operative after that rambutan ;) |
| 15:43 | tcohen | hahahahahah |
| 15:43 | awesome gmcharlt | |
| 15:43 | rambutan | and actually, on that note, I've just been informed there's rum cake downstairs in the breakroom |
| 15:43 | brb | |
| 15:45 | druthb | gmcharlt: I really liked your post on Meta Interchange. Definitely food for thought, both inside and outside FOSS communities. |
| 15:45 | gmcharlt | druthb: thanks |
| 15:46 | tcohen | why a basket is not showing on "Ungrouped baskets" on a basket group? |
| 15:47 | gmcharlt | tcohen: it is an individualist! it will never join a grouop! |
| 15:47 | more seriously, is the basket in question open? | |
| 15:48 | tcohen | it is |
| 15:49 | gmcharlt | does it belong to the same vendor? |
| 15:49 | tcohen | yes |
| 15:50 | i've just created a new one | |
| 15:51 | http://snag.gy/7SFGa.jpg | |
| 15:52 | http://snag.gy/d8s9Z.jpg | |
| 15:53 | nengard | what is the sys pref that lets you check out using title? |
| 15:53 | tcohen | i'm puzzled gmcharlt |
| 15:54 | nengard | @later tell cait just got your apology, no problem at all, I understand everyone's reaction :) |
| 15:54 | huginn | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:54 | gmcharlt | nengard: itemBarcodeFallbackSearch |
| 15:54 | nengard | Thank you!!!! |
| 15:54 | I couldn't find it for the life of me | |
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| 16:03 | jcamins | gmcharlt: I have thought about it, and I think you should enact a new policy on Koha source code. |
| 16:04 | gmcharlt | jcamins: oh? |
| 16:05 | jcamins | gmcharlt: Koha should adopt a policy of "concrete source code," where the visual impression of the code invokes the essence of library automation. |
| 16:05 | * druthb | blinks. |
| 16:05 | jcamins | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete_poetry <-- like this, only executable |
| 16:06 | * druthb | is occasionally left wondering what jcamins is talking about... |
| 16:06 | jcamins | druthb: I found a link to a related concept to share! |
| 16:06 | druthb | oh, no, I get that part, jcamins. |
| 16:07 | I'm just wondering how one invokes the essence of library automation in that art form. | |
| 16:07 | By shaping your code like various archaic torture devices, perhaps? | |
| 16:07 | jcamins | I was looking for examples of concrete source code, but "concrete code" brings up information about pouring sidewalks. |
| 16:07 | gmcharlt | jcamins: for when merely literate programming is not enough... ;) |
| 16:07 | jcamins | druthb: pretty much, yah. |
| 16:07 | druthb | or a pig, wearing lipstick, in the case of OPAC code? |
| 16:08 | jcamins | With syntax highlighting definitions for vim and emacs built into each file so that the lipstick is a garish red. |
| 16:08 | druthb | oooh! Search code done to look like a Roulette wheel. |
| 16:09 | jcamins | druthb: perfect! |
| 16:09 | wahanui | perfect is the enemy of good |
| 16:10 | jcamins | wahanui: perfect is also embodied in the concrete source code of the absurdist programming movement. |
| 16:10 | wahanui | okay, jcamins. |
| 16:10 | jcamins | perfect! |
| 16:10 | wahanui | hmmm... perfect is embodied in the concrete source code of the absurdist programming movement. |
| 16:10 | jcamins | Yesssss! |
| 16:10 | pastebot | "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "for tcohen" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/33 |
| 16:11 | * druthb | reboots her jcamins parser. |
| 16:11 | gmcharlt | @quote add <jcamins> perfect is also embodied in the concrete source code of the absurdist programming movement. |
| 16:11 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #286 added. |
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| 16:27 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:30 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 16:33 | druthb | drojf! |
| 16:35 | drojf | druthb! |
| 16:43 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7518: certain searches with quotation marks don't work <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2392068c2fdd3a35f> / Bug 7518: regression test double-quote in search operand <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d9f73ec05283f6892> |
| 16:59 | gmcharlt | @later tell tcohen bug 11409 |
| 16:59 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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| 17:32 | gmcharlt | nengard: I'd appreciate your comments on 11409 |
| 17:32 | nengard | checking now |
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| 17:35 | tcohen | thanks gmcharlt |
| 17:35 | nengard | replied |
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| 17:43 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9807: (follow-up) quell warning if invoice price not set <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]416778559cf66b074> / Bug 9807: (follow-up) reindent basketgroup.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a1aaa85275264c73f> / Bug 9807: (follow-up) fix variable name <http://git.koha-community.org/[…].git;a=commitdiff |
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| 17:49 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1556: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1556/ |
| 17:49 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11249: Add Db indexes on borrowers names | |
| 17:49 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11249: DBRev 3.15.00.006 | |
| 17:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11249 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Add db indexes on borrowers names |
| 17:54 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1557 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1547 6 days 21 hr ago) |
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| 18:11 | nengard | was the restrictions tab added to the patron record in 3.14? or is that in master? not finding a bug number |
| 18:13 | tcohen | its a 3.14 feature right? |
| 18:13 | oleonard | Bug 2720 |
| 18:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2720 enhancement, P3, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Overdues which debar automatically should undebar automatically when returned |
| 18:13 | nengard | see that's why i didn't find it :) |
| 18:14 | nothing about restrictions tab in that title :) | |
| 18:14 | thanks | |
| 18:14 | will document that | |
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| 19:06 | tcohen | @later tell bgkriegel i'm about to push the latest stuff to 3.12.x, could you please update pootle? |
| 19:06 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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| 19:08 | tcohen | let the games begin |
| 19:08 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #146 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #144 7 days 0 hr ago) |
| 19:08 | tcohen | heh |
| 19:09 | cait | hi #koha |
| 19:10 | jcamins | 060676760 - real ISBN? |
| 19:13 | It was, with the additional leading zero. | |
| 19:14 | tcohen | bye #koha |
| 19:17 | cait | interesting book? |
| 19:18 | jcamins | cait: eh. I've forgotten what it was already. |
| 19:18 | Ecclesiastes. | |
| 19:22 | cait | ah |
| 19:23 | jcamins | So... mostly just depressing. |
| 19:27 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 19:27 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -2.2°C (8:25 PM CET on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:35 | cait | brrrr |
| 19:36 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #146: STILL UNSTABLE in 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/146/ |
| 19:36 | * Zeno Tajoli: Bug 11222: fix crash that can occur in search for items to add to label batch | |
| 19:36 | * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11125: Correct display for patron messaging preferences on OPAC | |
| 19:36 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11275: make deleteditems.materials be of type text | |
| 19:36 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: DBRev 3.12.07.001 | |
| 19:36 | * Rachel Dustin: Bug 11105: wrap places OPAC facet in a span | |
| 19:36 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7484: keep selected values when changing search type on authority search form | |
| 19:36 | * Srdjan: Bug 11183: get rid of some log noise from the OPAC | |
| 19:36 | * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11242: fix opac-MARCdetail.pl display and warnings | |
| 19:36 | * Lyon3 Team: Bug 11059: fix date sorting of import batches in basket add form | |
| 19:36 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11059: (follow-up) restore time in staged dates in addorderiso2709.tt | |
| 19:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11222 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Stable , A regression on label-item-search.pl done by Bug 9239 |
| 19:36 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: fix XSS bug in purchase suggestions pages |
| 19:36 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: fix XSS bug in purchase suggestions - OPAC | |
| 19:36 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: rscrub bad data before storing suggestions in the DB | |
| 19:36 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 11341: fix XSS bug in opac-search.pl (facets) | |
| 19:36 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11077: remove uninitialized value $pki_field warning | |
| 19:36 | * Srdjan: Bug 11077: Correct more warnings in C4/Auth.pm | |
| 19:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11125 minor, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Remove Problematic Logic from Patron Messaging Preferences Form |
| 19:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11275 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , make deleteditems.materials of type text | |
| 19:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11105 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Stable , label - opac - places on facets not easily css selectable | |
| 19:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7484 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Keeping typed values when searching for authorities | |
| 19:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11183 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Stable , Warnings in opac | |
| 19:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11242 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , fix opac-MARCdetail.pl bizarre ordering of data and noisy warnings | |
| 19:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11059 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Not possible to sort staged dates in metric format | |
| 19:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11322 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Suggestion "notes" field should be sanitized or escaped | |
| 19:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11341 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , XSS attack vector in facets in OPAC - prog theme | |
| 19:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11077 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Correct silent warnings in C4/Auth.pm | |
| 19:51 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #424 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 19:51 | Project Koha_Docs build #424: SUCCESS in 23 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/424/ | |
| 19:51 | * Nicole C. Engard: patron restrictions | |
| 19:51 | * Nicole C. Engard: add back missing circ summary image | |
| 19:51 | * Nicole C. Engard: update checking out images | |
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| 20:00 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1557: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1557/ |
| 20:00 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7518: regression test double-quote in search operand | |
| 20:00 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7518: certain searches with quotation marks don't work | |
| 20:00 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9807 : Make it possible to view a basket group without reopening it | |
| 20:00 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9807: (follow-up) fix variable name | |
| 20:00 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9807: (follow-up) reindent basketgroup.tt | |
| 20:00 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 9807: (follow-up) quell warning if invoice price not set | |
| 20:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7518 normal, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , searches with quotation marks don't work |
| 20:00 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9807 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , There should be a way to show the content of a basketgroup without reopening it | |
| 20:10 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1558 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1547 6 days 23 hr ago) |
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| 20:14 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch '3.16-help-split' of https://github.com/bgkriegel/koha-translate <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bded5a78d08dbb46d> / Translation update - split staff UI and help files <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]65669f22cf7ff3e12> |
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| 20:28 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 20:34 | cait | gmcharlt++ |
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| 21:00 | tcohen | rangi? |
| 21:00 | wahanui | I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
| 21:02 | tcohen | @later tell rangi I'm in trouble, need your advise |
| 21:02 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:04 | rangi | whats up? |
| 21:05 | * cait | sends coookies |
| 21:06 | tcohen | Serials.t is failing |
| 21:06 | I cannot find recent changes that might have triggered this | |
| 21:06 | rangi | its failing locally too? |
| 21:06 | tcohen | yes |
| 21:07 | rangi | id use git bisect |
| 21:07 | git bisect start | |
| 21:07 | git checkout v.3.12.06 | |
| 21:07 | run tests if it passes | |
| 21:08 | git bisect good | |
| 21:08 | git checkout head of 3.12.x | |
| 21:08 | run tests | |
| 21:08 | oleonard | hi rangi, and bye #koha |
| 21:08 | rangi | git bisect bad |
| 21:08 | tcohen | bad |
| 21:08 | rangi | and work from there |
| 21:08 | tcohen | ok, thanks, I'll bisect it |
| 21:08 | rangi | you need one good an one bad before it can do its magic |
| 21:08 | it shouldnt take too long to find | |
| 21:11 | cait | git_bisect++ |
| 21:11 | it's awesome | |
| 21:12 | tcohen | the thing is, I need to reload the DB each time I presume |
| 21:12 | rangi | you shouldnt need to |
| 21:13 | unless you think its a db structure change thats caused it? | |
| 21:17 | tcohen | yes "NOT NULL" |
| 21:17 | rangi | ah then id just look for teh patch that changed that |
| 21:17 | git blame on the updatedatabase.pl file | |
| 21:19 | tcohen | thanks rangi, i'll do some research |
| 21:19 | and come back | |
| 21:19 | rangi | cool |
| 21:35 | mtompset | git bisect? |
| 21:35 | wahanui | rumour has it git bisect is our friend here |
| 21:38 | eythian | hi |
| 21:39 | tcohen | should a script return 0 for "good" rangi? |
| 21:39 | rangi | thats the unix way |
| 21:41 | do we actually do anything with the return value? | |
| 21:42 | tcohen | no, but I want to automatize the bisect process |
| 21:42 | so it loads the db and runs updatedatabase | |
| 21:42 | rangi | zero means no error |
| 21:55 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "rangi: Possible bisect script" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/34 |
| 21:57 | tcohen | useless output |
| 21:58 | rangi | yep that outghta work, any non zero status will be classed a fail |
| 22:04 | tcohen | rangi: is there a way to run bisect backwards? heh |
| 22:04 | cait | ? |
| 22:06 | tcohen | cait: so bisect returns the latest commit where the tests fail, or the first commit that fixes it |
| 22:06 | cait | the one that broke it |
| 22:06 | ok, i think i am misunderstanding what you want to say :) | |
| 22:07 | tcohen | bisect tells you the first time the test would fail |
| 22:07 | i want the first that fixed it | |
| 22:07 | is just silly | |
| 22:07 | eythian | tcohen: sure, invert your test |
| 22:07 | tcohen | i need to revert the output |
| 22:07 | exactly | |
| 22:07 | heh | |
| 22:09 | eythian | you'd want to make a smart wrapper script though, as there are special codes that git bisect uses (like 125) that you'd need to pass unaltered. |
| 22:12 | tcohen | thanks for the tip eythian, i'm looking for documentation on that |
| 22:12 | eythian | git bisect --help :) |
| 22:14 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1558: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1558/ |
| 22:14 | Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation update - split staff UI and help files | |
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| 22:26 | tcohen | rangi, eythian, cait: false alarm |
| 22:26 | eythian | I wasn't alarmed. |
| 22:26 | tcohen | its been failing from the beggining |
| 22:26 | hahaha | |
| 22:27 | its just jenkins that didn't raise any alarm | |
| 22:27 | the current failure is related to environmental changes for the jenkins execution | |
| 22:28 | inverting the output of the script I found that recently gmcharlt fixed the Serials.t so they serve a purpose (finally) | |
| 22:36 | thanks rangi | |
| 22:36 | cya | |
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| 22:46 | dcook | @wunder sydney, australia |
| 22:46 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 24.0°C (9:30 AM EST on December 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:47 | dcook | Hmm. Feels hotter than that... |
| 22:47 | 26 on Christmas...that's not horrible | |
| 22:49 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 22:49 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (11:30 AM NZDT on December 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:54 | dcook | Wellington seems a bit nicer at the moment |
| 22:54 | rambutan | @wunder 64507 |
| 22:54 | huginn | rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 4.9°C (4:54 PM CST on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:55 | cait | eythian: the dailyreport... still no sun here |
| 22:55 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 22:55 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.7°C (11:55 PM CET on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:55 | dcook | Hmm, frosty |
| 22:56 | eythian | cait: that's not so nice. |
| 22:56 | cait | nope |
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| 23:29 | * francharb | waves at #koha |
| 23:30 | dcook | hey ya francharb |
| 23:30 | francharb | hi dcook |
| 23:31 | dcook | It's a bit early/late, no? |
| 23:33 | francharb | hum, I'm in ottawa, it's 6:30pm |
| 23:33 | not that late | |
| 23:33 | ;) | |
| 23:34 | dcook | Ah, well, that will do it! |
| 23:34 | francharb | getting ready for a training tomorrow |
| 23:34 | on serials | |
| 23:34 | dcook | Despite originally being from Saskatchewan, I have no idea what time it is anywhere but Australia these days :p |
| 23:34 | Fun times ;) | |
| 23:35 | francharb | analytical records with unimarc : easy but now that I have to work with marc21 |
| 23:35 | I'm kind of lost | |
| 23:35 | ;) | |
| 23:35 | * dcook | googles quickly |
| 23:35 | dcook | So you're at inLibro now? |
| 23:35 | francharb | yes |
| 23:35 | a mounth now | |
| 23:35 | dcook | That's awesome! |
| 23:36 | francharb | :) |
| 23:36 | what do you do dcook, system librarian, right? | |
| 23:36 | dcook | Whereabouts is inLibro located? |
| 23:36 | Yep | |
| 23:37 | I work over at Prosentient Systems in Sydney, Australia | |
| 23:37 | francharb | inlibro is located in montreal |
| 23:37 | dcook | We host and develop Koha, DSpace, and a few others |
| 23:37 | Ah, Montreal | |
| 23:37 | * dcook | is jealous |
| 23:38 | francharb | how often do you come back in canada? |
| 23:39 | rsd30 joined #koha | |
| 23:40 | dcook | Not very often at all |
| 23:40 | I've only been down here 2 years but it's been once a year | |
| 23:40 | Mostly coincidental though. The first time was to finish my MLIS and the second was for Kohacon ;) | |
| 23:42 | What made you decide to move to Canada from France? | |
| 23:42 | francharb | my partner is from montreal |
| 23:43 | we met in montreal a couple years ago | |
| 23:43 | so actually, we came back | |
| 23:43 | ;) | |
| 23:43 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:43 | Very cool :) | |
| 23:43 | I think I would like to live in Montreal one day | |
| 23:43 | I have some friends there and loved it when I visited | |
| 23:43 | francharb | I'm pretty happy about it |
| 23:44 | dcook | When I went to grad school, it was either Montreal or Vancouver, but I chose Vancouver (which led me to Australia, my wife, and Koha...so I'm pretty happy) |
| 23:44 | francharb | :) |
| 23:45 | ahhh love | |
| 23:45 | ... | |
| 23:45 | ;) | |
| 23:45 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:45 | I'm still a bit jealous anyway ;) | |
| 23:46 | Oh well. We'll just have to come out and visit sometime in the next few years. | |
| 23:46 | francharb | sure! |
| 23:46 | dcook | If you have any questions about analytic records with marc21, I might be able to help |
| 23:46 | We've been doing them more and more recently | |
| 23:46 | francharb | :) |
| 23:46 | actually yes | |
| 23:47 | how can I put this clearly... | |
| 23:47 | jcamins | dcook: if they're looking to bring someone to Montreal to talk about MARC21 analytic records, I'm a lot closer. :P |
| 23:47 | dcook | shhh, quiet you, jcamins :p |
| 23:47 | francharb | :) |
| 23:48 | ebegin joined #koha | |
| 23:48 | francharb | so |
| 23:48 | dcook | evening, ebegin |
| 23:48 | ebegin | good evening ! |
| 23:49 | hey francharb ! working late ! | |
| 23:49 | francharb | 773 or 774 gives you a link from the child record to the host record righ? |
| 23:49 | dcook | 773, yes |
| 23:49 | ebegin | 772 and 773 |
| 23:49 | wahanui | 1545 |
| 23:49 | dcook | You can supply the host's biblionumber in the child's 773$0 |
| 23:49 | francharb | is there a field to give you the opposite? from host to child record? |
| 23:50 | dcook | That would be the 774 I believe |
| 23:50 | But I'm not sure Koha uses it | |
| 23:50 | * dcook | looks over at jcamins |
| 23:50 | rsd30 | Hi...I am a noob to Koha and have inherited a system running Koha version 3.06 on Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS. Our librarian is having difficulty cataloging books using Library of Congress records? Is there a service on the server that needs to be restarted possibly? |
| 23:50 | jcamins | Yes 774, and no, it is not used. |
| 23:51 | rsd30: no, but you might need to open up ports on your firewall. | |
| 23:51 | drojf | i will add 774 to the xslt i think. i have it in a local copy |
| 23:51 | dcook | drojf! |
| 23:51 | drojf | dcook! |
| 23:52 | jcamins | Please do. I thought I'd submitted a patch for that, but apparently not. |
| 23:52 | dcook | Still busy with uni or is it holidays yet? |
| 23:52 | Using the 774 would be nice | |
| 23:52 | francharb | does the analytical feature also add a 773$9 with the itemnumber$ |
| 23:52 | ? | |
| 23:52 | drojf | ok, i'll try to remember that. i know a library that wants to use it too. (or, i want them to use it ^^) |
| 23:53 | francharb | I need to test it but I have only the unimarc in mind for now... |
| 23:53 | jcamins | EasyAnalytics does. |
| 23:53 | francharb | okkkkkkkk |
| 23:53 | rsd30 | It has been working up until a few days ago when the server was powered off during a power outage? No firewall config changes as of late? |
| 23:53 | ebegin | rsd30, that's cool. You could have be stuck with a pre-3.0 version |
| 23:53 | francharb | I just mapped what I knew with unimarc to marc21 |
| 23:53 | jcamins | rsd30: and everything other than copy cataloging works? |
| 23:53 | francharb | thanks dcook, jcamins |
| 23:53 | dcook | Any time :) |
| 23:54 | ebegin, francharb: If you don't mind me asking, which provinces do you have clients in? Is it only Quebec and Ontario? | |
| 23:54 | rsd30 | as far as I know...like I said I am a noob. There is an OCLC server setup as well and it reports data, just not from Library of Congress |
| 23:55 | ebegin | dcook, BC, QC and NS |
| 23:55 | * dcook | wants to promote Koha among his friends and colleagues back in Canada but isn't sure what Koha vendors are around for them |
| 23:55 | dcook | BC? Really? Wow.. |
| 23:55 | ebegin | yep |
| 23:55 | dcook | In Vancouver or other places? |
| 23:55 | jcamins | rsd30: oh, could a few days ago have been two weeks ago? |
| 23:55 | ebegin | Yes, Vancouver |
| 23:55 | wahanui | Vancouver is home to http://www.coopradio.org/ and the local uni has a co-op studies dept, so there should be quite a few. |
| 23:55 | jcamins | LC changed their URL. |
| 23:56 | dcook | That's awesome :) |
| 23:56 | jcamins | rsd30: lx2.loc.gov:210/LCDB |
| 23:56 | ebegin | i <3 vancouver |
| 23:56 | francharb | dcook, if they are looking for a trainer with a perfectly spoken broken english, here I am! ;) |
| 23:56 | rsd30 | She just reported it two days ago right after we brought our datacenter back up |
| 23:56 | dcook | ebegin: Me too. I did my MLIS there and fell in love with it. |
| 23:56 | rsd30 | yest that is the server info I am using |
| 23:56 | dcook | ebegin: Although I also love Montreal. I think there should be tunnels connecting Australia with Vancouver and Montreal ;) |
| 23:57 | jcamins | rsd30: in that case, I'm not sure. |
| 23:57 | francharb | tunnel++ |
| 23:57 | ebegin | Vancouver is warmer :) |
| 23:57 | dcook | francharb: I'll keep that in mind :) |
| 23:57 | rsd30 | thanks |
| 23:57 | ebegin | @wunder montreal quebec |
| 23:57 | huginn | ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -17.0°C (6:17 PM EST on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Windchill: -27.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
| 23:57 | dcook | Warmer, mountains, beaches, ocean... |
| 23:57 | @wunder yvr | |
| 23:57 | ebegin | @wunder ottawa on |
| 23:57 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Burkeville, Richmond, British Columbia is 6.0°C (3:57 PM PST on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
| 23:57 | ebegin: Error: No such location could be found. | |
| 23:57 | ebegin | @wunder ottawa ontario |
| 23:57 | huginn | ebegin: The current temperature in General Burns, Ottawa, Ontario is -16.8°C (6:57 PM EST on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Windchill: -17.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 23:58 | dcook | @wunder yqr |
| 23:58 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Regina, Saskatchewan is -9.0°C (5:00 PM CST on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -19.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
| 23:58 | dcook | Wow, Saskatchewan is warmer than the East for once.. |
| 23:58 | francharb | @wunder sydney australia |
| 23:58 | huginn | francharb: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 25.0°C (10:30 AM EST on December 18, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 23:58 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:59 | francharb | summertime |
| 23:59 | dcook | Waiting for the bus this morning, I felt like my legs were on fire :p |
| 23:59 | * dcook | thinks it feels warmer than 25 |
| 23:59 | ebegin | and here, it feels colder than -17, believe me |
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