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| 00:22 | jcamins | Does anyone have any better suggestions for king mackarel than green Thai curry? |
| 00:23 | (not that I can think of much to top a Thai green curry) | |
| 00:24 | wizzyrea | polenta crumbed and pan fried. |
| 00:24 | not that it is *better* than curry, but different from curry. | |
| 00:25 | jcamins | Actually, we got a big fish this week, so maybe I'll do both. :D |
| 00:40 | dcook | both \o/ |
| 00:40 | * dcook | is so tempted to get curry today... |
| 02:21 | jcamins | That was the best Thai curry I have ever had. |
| 02:23 | wizzyrea | yay! |
| 02:23 | jcamins | I didn't have as much fish as I thought, so there was no polenta-crumbed mackarel. |
| 02:25 | wizzyrea | oh well, another day ;) |
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| 02:53 | jcamins | cait? |
| 02:53 | wahanui | cait: go to bed |
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| 03:12 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 05:23 | mtompset | Greetings, dcook kenan24 |
| 05:24 | Well. I'm calling it a day. Have a great day, #koha. | |
| 06:10 | dcook | night #koha |
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| 06:47 | * cait | waves tiredly |
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| 07:27 | arunkumars3189 | hi |
| 07:27 | wahanui | hola, arunkumars3189 |
| 07:29 | arunkumars3189 | hola |
| 07:29 | wahanui | what's up, arunkumars3189 |
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| 07:41 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:49 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:50 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 07:54 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 08:20 | nlegrand | Hey #koha o/ |
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| 08:20 | cait | good morning #koha |
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| 08:25 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:37 | cait | hi gaetan_B |
| 08:37 | :) | |
| 08:42 | * magnuse | waves again |
| 08:43 | cait | morning magnuse |
| 08:44 | magnuse | hiya cait |
| 08:44 | back at work? | |
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| 09:13 | cait | yep |
| 09:13 | reading a gazillion mails | |
| 09:13 | well sorting and deleting most of it first | |
| 09:28 | magnuse | good plan :-) |
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| 11:10 | ashimema | mornin' #koha |
| 11:29 | anyone here using Koha::Contrib::tamil indexer? | |
| 11:29 | I'm wondering what it adds to the game now that bug 6435 has been pushed? | |
| 11:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6435 major, P5 - low, ---, dpk, Pushed to Stable , [ENH] Added daemon mode parameters to rebuild_zebra.pl |
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| 12:51 | tcohen | morning #koha |
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| 12:57 | cait | ashimema + tcohen = ping! |
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| 13:00 | tcohen | hi ashimema |
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| 13:11 | francharb | good morning #koha |
| 13:11 | tcohen | hi francharb |
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| 13:29 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:29 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 13:30 | tcohen | hi oleonard |
| 13:31 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #145 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 13:59 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #145: UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/145/ |
| 13:59 | * Galen Charlton: Update history.txt for Koha 3.14.0 release | |
| 13:59 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 11307: Fix potential XSS attack in public catalog RSS feed | |
| 13:59 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 7143: Cleaning up docs/history.txt | |
| 13:59 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10809: use branches template plugin in serials search | |
| 13:59 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11245: fix typo in modborrowers.tt javascript string | |
| 13:59 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 10996: Allow numeric subfields to be stripped on export | |
| 13:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11307 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Potential XSS attack vector in opac rss feed |
| 13:59 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11061: remove unused routine Koha::Calendar::_mock_init |
| 13:59 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11146: Show a go back link on no permission page | |
| 13:59 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 7491: improve description of the item-level_itypes syspref | |
| 14:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
| 14:00 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10809 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , use template branches plugin in serials search | |
| 14:00 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11245 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , typo in modborrowers.tt javascript string | |
| 14:00 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10996 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Cannot exclude numeric subfields on export | |
| 14:00 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11061 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Koha::Calendar::_mock_init is unused | |
| 14:00 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11146 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Show a go back link on no permission page | |
| 14:00 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7491 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Description for item-level_itypes is misleading | |
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| 14:00 | * Oak | waves |
| 14:10 | magnuse | Oak |
| 14:11 | Oak | magnuse |
| 14:11 | \o/ | |
| 14:11 | oleonard | A giant magnuse? Impossible? http://scifi-covers.com/post/6[…]-21-space-specter |
| 14:11 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 14:12 | magnuse | yeah, fighting robots is something i have taken a liking to doing in my spare time lately... |
| 14:12 | * magnuse | waves to talljoy |
| 14:12 | talljoy | hi magnuse! |
| 14:13 | * oleonard | hands magnuse a robots.txt |
| 14:13 | Oak | funny |
| 14:13 | magnuse | lol, clever! |
| 14:13 | Oak | :) |
| 14:14 | magnuse | (and by lol, i mean i *actually* laughed out loud :-) |
| 14:14 | oleonard | I learned that one from the surprise ending of "Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla" |
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| 14:19 | ashimema | hi tcohen.. i'm back now. |
| 14:22 | tcohen | hi ashimema |
| 14:22 | ashimema | tcohen, I wondered if you could give me a brief rundown of what the tamil indexer does as a comparison to rebuild_zebra.pl (with deamon mode and locking)? I'd like to get bug 8773 checked off and am wondering about the coice of tmil vs native koha ;) |
| 14:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup |
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| 14:28 | tcohen | tamil's indexer is a collection of tools, plus the indexer. They are OO and nice. I don't like that it is outside the codebase |
| 14:28 | of the community's repo | |
| 14:29 | bug 5166 proposed to refactor rebuild_zebra.pl as a library and a daemon script | |
| 14:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED WONTFIX, Reintroduce a zebraqueue daemon, make several rebuild_zebra.pl functions a lib |
| 14:29 | tcohen | (i don't like having rebuild_zebra.pl getting bigger and bigger) |
| 14:30 | bug 8773 specifically implements a straightforward to use any indexer script on a pre-instance basis | |
| 14:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup |
| 14:30 | tcohen | s/pre/per/ |
| 14:31 | what it does already exists on the 3.12 onwards codebase as koha-index-daemon-ctl.sh | |
| 14:31 | this is just the packages counterpart | |
| 14:32 | ashimema | yeah, it would be nice to factor out rebuild into a library.. |
| 14:32 | I see.. | |
| 14:33 | So, theoretically it shoudl work with either Tamil or the Deamon mode of rebuild_zebra depending upon the config | |
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| 14:33 | ashimema | I'm still reaing through the comment history of the bug.. it's huge |
| 14:33 | tcohen | yes, /etc/default/koha-common would be the place to set it |
| 14:34 | oh, I recall Tamil's indexer depended on Moose, which put it on hold in some people's minds | |
| 14:34 | ashimema | cheers tcohen.. I'll take a look at it shortly.. |
| 14:34 | I suppose I should really get my head around the Tamil indexer at some point too as to make an informed decision on wether to stick to koha's internal script of use theirs | |
| 14:35 | tcohen | even thou I maintain our own packages set for 3.12.x at UNC, including 8773 patches |
| 14:36 | I stopped using the indexer daemon until I figure out why it is failing for authorities (DOM) | |
| 14:37 | by the way, we used 5166's daemon in production for a couple of years until I realized it wouldn't get into Koha, and took me too much effort to rebase against every rebuild_zebra.pl refactoring/modification | |
| 14:37 | ashimema | ack.. |
| 14:38 | so there's three disperate efforts to do the same things.. doug's recent work on rebuild_zebra.pl directly, your factoring out as a library, and tamils work external to koha altogether.. what a mess | |
| 14:38 | thanks for clearing up the history | |
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| 14:48 | jcamins | For future reference, if anyone decides to sew a pamphlet made of paper in octavo, punching holes for the sewing is much easier after opening the pages. |
| 14:51 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #423 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 14:51 | Project Koha_Docs build #423: SUCCESS in 22 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/423/ | |
| 14:51 | Nicole C. Engard: add info about OVERRIDE_SYSPREF | |
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| 14:59 | Oak | jcamins++ |
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| 15:05 | ashimema | OK tcohen, now I've caught up on the back story, I'll go ahead and QA it. Thanks for all the background. |
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| 15:19 | rambutan | @wunder 64507 |
| 15:19 | huginn | rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -4.5°C (9:19 AM CST on December 16, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 15:26 | ashimema | @wunder stevenage, uk |
| 15:26 | huginn | ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 10.6°C (3:21 PM GMT on December 16, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 15:26 | Oak | @wunder islamabad |
| 15:26 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad Airport, Pakistan is 15.0°C (8:00 PM PKT on December 16, 2013). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa. |
| 15:34 | rambutan | hey Oak, how are you? |
| 15:43 | Oak | hello rambutan, i'm good, how are you? |
| 15:43 | rambutan | good, good |
| 15:52 | gmcharlt | not particularly, no |
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| 16:04 | * druthb | waves to mtompset |
| 16:04 | rambutan | well :) |
| 16:04 | mtompset | greetings, #koha. |
| 16:04 | rambutan | greetings naman |
| 16:04 | mtompset | Greetings, druthb rambutan. |
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| 16:06 | rambutan | Well, I need to go do my Monday morning walk-around and see what the gremlins did over the weekend |
| 16:08 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:23 | rambutan | Well, that walk-about cost me $10 |
| 16:23 | mtompset | @seen paul_p |
| 16:23 | huginn | mtompset: paul_p was last seen in #koha 4 days, 19 hours, 53 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <paul_p> rangi ??? plug ? |
| 16:24 | paul_p | mtompset yes ? |
| 16:25 | mtompset | I'm in the midst of commenting on your reply to the file upload bug. |
| 16:26 | The dangling URLs and non-file-upload URLs (what I called external) don't quite handle smoothly. | |
| 16:27 | It's not about URL validity, but rather is the URL a file-uploa URL. | |
| 16:28 | (don't jump to the delete screen if it is a non-file-upload URL) | |
| 16:29 | (don't jump to the delete screen if the file-upload URL is dangling) | |
| 16:29 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 16:29 | mtompset | Greetings, Oak. |
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| 17:00 | oleonard | Oi. Meetings. :P |
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| 17:02 | rambutan | but oh, the coffee, juice, bagles with cream cheese and muffins make meetings so worth it |
| 17:03 | oleonard | Yeah, *if* it comes with coffee juice bagels with cream cheese muffins. |
| 17:03 | rambutan | ? don't all meetings have nice amenities? |
| 17:04 | tcohen | anyone on wheeze? |
| 17:05 | jcamins | oleonard: I went on a no-meeting strike until my boss agreed to have food available. |
| 17:06 | oleonard | jcamins: I imagine that wasn't a long drawn-out fight |
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| 17:06 | jcamins | oleonard: he was surprisingly understanding about the importance of fresh-baked goods. |
| 17:07 | oleonard | I think next time I'll have to bring the snacks myself, particularly if it's going to run 3 hours |
| 17:08 | mtompset | tcohen: wheezy? |
| 17:08 | wahanui | wheezy is testing |
| 17:09 | tcohen | i need to confirm instance creation fails because of wheeze using Apache 2.4 |
| 17:09 | i'm about to write a patch for that | |
| 17:09 | jcamins | tcohen: cait tried it and had problems. |
| 17:09 | cait | tcohen: i have a write up what I did |
| 17:09 | tcohen: if you want to compare? | |
| 17:10 | jcamins | cait: still on vacation? |
| 17:10 | cait | nope |
| 17:10 | working | |
| 17:10 | jcamins | I thought you were going to be back at work today. |
| 17:10 | cait | and still at work actually... but i almost see the gorund of my inbox now |
| 17:10 | tcohen | apache 2.4's a2ensite expect the instance definition files be named .conf |
| 17:10 | cait | tcohen: that's only one of the things |
| 17:10 | tcohen | the other was permissions? |
| 17:10 | jcamins | Oh, right. Someone took kf. |
| 17:10 | cait | yeah and a third one |
| 17:10 | sec | |
| 17:11 | tcohen | auth-compat? |
| 17:11 | cait | jcamins: salt into my wounds? |
| 17:11 | might have done stupid things, but that's my write up | |
| 17:11 | i think one problem was related to the setup - localhost | |
| 17:13 | tcohen | ok, i'll post a patch that detects apache 2.4 and appends .conf to the file names |
| 17:14 | and also might enable access_compat | |
| 17:14 | a2enmod access_compat | |
| 17:14 | is there a bug for this cait? | |
| 17:16 | cait | tcohen: no i didn't file one - took me a day to figure it out and i was not sure if i really did something that made sense :) |
| 17:16 | tcohen | heh |
| 17:16 | cait | should we fix the permissions? |
| 17:16 | tcohen | i struggled with this when I upgraded my lapotop to 13.10 |
| 17:16 | cait | same... |
| 17:16 | tcohen | access_compat might solve it |
| 17:16 | downloading an iso to reproduce | |
| 17:17 | I think tweaking the permissions should be done by the user for now | |
| 17:17 | i mean, is an upstream error IMHO | |
| 17:17 | fredericd | tcohen: Have you seen bug 11081? I've introduced the Tamil indexer into Koha code base |
| 17:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11081 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , Port Koha::Contrib::Tamil indexer into Koha code base |
| 17:17 | tcohen | oh, no :-D |
| 17:17 | didn't notice it before! | |
| 17:18 | fredericd | I don't think it should be too difficult to sign this patch, since you already how it works... |
| 17:22 | tcohen | i'll give it a rige fredericd |
| 17:22 | ride | |
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| 17:52 | tcohen | hmmmm |
| 18:12 | @later tell cait bug 11404 | |
| 18:12 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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| 18:19 | * cait | waves |
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| 18:20 | cait | tcohen: your later is abit cryptic |
| 18:21 | tcohen_ | i created a bug for the Apache 2.4 issue |
| 18:21 | just that | |
| 18:21 | cait | aah :) ok |
| 18:22 | tcohen | i don't think my patch is a complete solution, we need changing the docs for 2.4 users |
| 18:23 | anyway, gotta leave now | |
| 18:23 | bye #koha | |
| 18:23 | cait | have a nice evening :) |
| 18:30 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
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| 19:23 | rangi | morning |
| 19:23 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
| 19:23 | rambutan | afternoon |
| 19:23 | rangi | http://tech.slashdot.org/story[…]ha-trademark-case |
| 19:24 | * rangi | updates his blogpost |
| 19:24 | rambutan | ooooh, we got slashdotted. We're up there now, major leagues. |
| 19:30 | oleonard | The comments on that post... Yeah. |
| 19:31 | rangi | slashdot is not even close to what it used to be |
| 19:31 | rambutan | yea, too many other Web2.0 sites |
| 19:33 | ibeardslee | so many other sites reguritating content from other sites |
| 19:34 | the worst are the ones that just have the first paragraph or so of an article from another site with a link to it to read more .. and then 'spam' that to social media to get the hits for ad revenue | |
| 19:36 | rangi | http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]ohails-could-talk |
| 19:36 | i love workaholics | |
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| 19:46 | jcamins | Windows-- |
| 19:47 | gmcharlt | I think this is the first time in over six months that I actually looked at a post on Slashdot |
| 19:47 | jcamins | gmcharlt: I read headlines. |
| 19:47 | Occasionally. | |
| 19:47 | druthb | http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]g-3rd-party-stuff <—if I didn't love this job so much, this would be more painful. |
| 19:47 | jcamins | I used to read slashdot, and now Chrome autocompletes it. |
| 19:47 | gmcharlt | I skim it in my feed reader, but ... wow, most of the posts sound ... young |
| 19:47 | druthb | I get the headlines in my RSS feed, and once in a while, I read something. Rarely the comments. |
| 19:54 | rambutan | jcamins: funny |
| 20:05 | rangi | yeah its just as well its not like it used to be, cos there is a link to my blog on that story, that would have crippled it in the olden days |
| 20:08 | cait | hi rangi |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea | the slashdot article, well, comments did teach me one thing that I didn't know and should have. |
| 20:09 | the location of the original Zealand. | |
| 20:10 | hm suppose I should be watching for slashdotting on the community site as well | |
| 20:10 | rangi | heh you really dont have to worry |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | naw, just watching. |
| 20:12 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Does koha-community.org use a caching plugin? |
| 20:13 | wizzyrea | yea, wp-super-cache |
| 20:13 | whyfor? | |
| 20:14 | * wizzyrea | decides not to upgrade wp whilst the link is on slashdot front page. |
| 20:14 | wizzyrea | in case it goes dumb. |
| 20:15 | rambutan | "whilst"? What's become of you wizzyrea? |
| 20:16 | wizzyrea | daddy done fell out the deer stand agin. |
| 20:16 | git yer sister, we's goin to dat dere horspital. | |
| 20:17 | cait | wizzyrea: confused non-native speaker :) |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 20:17 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Just curious, since I'm trying to learn more about WP |
| 20:18 | wizzyrea | ^ is for cait |
| 20:21 | so. awful. | |
| 20:21 | oleonard | "Some fool stole my buggy at the Piggly-Wiggly" Ha! |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 20:23 | now I have lost all sense of what I was doing. | |
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| 20:28 | jcamins | wizzyrea: isn't Zeeland in the Netherlands? |
| 20:28 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 20:29 | jcamins | Why on earth was that mentioned in Slashdot comments? |
| 20:29 | * jcamins | looked and didn't see that post. |
| 20:30 | ashimema | fredericd |
| 20:30 | wahanui | fredericd is translation manager for 3.8 |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea | someone asked, sarcastically, and got an honest answer. |
| 20:30 | because sarcasm can't stand on the internet ;) | |
| 20:30 | ashimema | fredericd: also interested in your tamil work getting into koha.. should be interesting |
| 20:30 | jcamins | Alas, where is marcelr when we need him? Now I want to know what "zee" means. |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea | probably "sea" |
| 20:31 | jcamins | Apparently so. |
| 20:31 | wahanui | apparently so is just after fa |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | zee-land = sea-land |
| 20:31 | jcamins | Huh, I always thought Zeeland was on the east side of the country. |
| 20:31 | The fact that it's on the west side of the country makes this *much* clearer. | |
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| 20:40 | cait | @later tell tcohen - looked at the photos - looks like a great party :) |
| 20:40 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:40 | cait | hi barton |
| 20:43 | magnuse | have fun #koha! |
| 20:44 | cait | oh and hi kathryn ;) |
| 20:45 | kathryn | hiya cait |
| 20:45 | cait | :) |
| 20:49 | oleonard | A new Koha mailing list? *sigh* |
| 20:50 | cait | hm yeah |
| 20:50 | i though that too actually | |
| 20:50 | and another english speaking one as well | |
| 20:50 | jcamins | Hey, does anyone else recognize the name "Kohana"? I feel like I've heard it before. |
| 20:51 | oleonard | Kohana: The Swift PHP Framework |
| 20:51 | jcamins | I guess it's a PHP framework, but I feel like I might've heard it in a Koha context. |
| 20:53 | oleonard | You guys don't understand, North American Koha users were clogging up the main Koha list with numerous questions specific to North America and it was just too much. |
| 20:53 | Alternatively: North American Koha users have super-secret stuff to talk about and you have to be North American to understand. | |
| 20:55 | cait | oh, it's good that you explained that |
| 20:55 | :) | |
| 20:56 | * druthb | waves her snark-o-meter at oleonard, to see if it detects snark coming from him. |
| 20:57 | bangs her snark-o-meter against the arm of her chair. "Darn thing's busted." | |
| 20:59 | druthb | wow, 3PM already. where has the day gone? |
| 21:00 | oleonard | all that snark doesn't detect itself druthb |
| 21:00 | * druthb | nods. |
| 21:00 | druthb | You may have oversnarked it. |
| 21:00 | broke mah meter. | |
| 21:02 | gmcharlt | oleonard: the motivation is much more to create a vehicle around which there can be at least the possibility of there being NA Koha conferences |
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| 21:04 | wizzyrea | (which makes some sense.) |
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| 21:05 | gmcharlt | if regional conferences make sense anywhere, they presumably make sense for North American too |
| 21:13 | nengard | I'm with gmcharlt |
| 21:13 | there is a french users group, why not a north american one | |
| 21:14 | lots of open source software apps have multiple local users groups | |
| 21:14 | wizzyrea | yep, just call it KohaCamp or something |
| 21:14 | not kohacon. :P | |
| 21:14 | nengard | who's calling it kohacon? |
| 21:14 | what did i mis | |
| 21:14 | miss | |
| 21:15 | rangi | no one is, just preemptive |
| 21:15 | nengard | Of course there is only one KohaCon |
| 21:15 | and there is only one Koha | |
| 21:15 | rambutan | quick, somebody trademark "KohaCon" |
| 21:15 | cait | nengard: i tihn local user groups make sense |
| 21:15 | just wondering if dividing users up into so many mailing lists will work out | |
| 21:15 | but we will see:) | |
| 21:16 | nengard | again - there are other language lists |
| 21:16 | already | |
| 21:16 | rambutan | someday I'm going to start a list for Koha system admins. |
| 21:16 | oleonard | Right, because those folks speak different languages |
| 21:17 | nengard | true, but the issues discussed on a North American user's group list would be related to local meetings and developments that maybe libraries in the same country can co-develop etc etc |
| 21:17 | You know me - I'm all about community and pushing everyone to participate in the global lists and chats etc | |
| 21:18 | but I also see why smaller local groups might want this kind of thing | |
| 21:18 | gmcharlt | rambutan: funny you should mention that; there was an abortive effort to do something similar in Evergreen, but it didn't go anywhere |
| 21:18 | in part, because of concerns about splitting the focus of open-ils-dev | |
| 21:18 | which led to a /very/ chilly reception of the idea | |
| 21:18 | rambutan | well, I am serious, BTW, but there clearly isn't enough mass to support it right now |
| 21:19 | gmcharlt | and in part, because ultimately there wasn't enough critical mass to push through the objections |
| 21:19 | rangi | the proof is in the pudding |
| 21:19 | * cait | agrees |
| 21:19 | rangi | people use it, and still use the main list, its good |
| 21:19 | oleonard | I think creation of a second kind of list should follow on the heels of "Gee, we sure are getting way to many of X kind of messages on the list" |
| 21:19 | rangi | no one can predict it |
| 21:20 | rambutan | I think that someday there will need to be a chat channel for sysadmins too. I mean, devs are nice to share this channel with occasional... |
| 21:21 | * gmcharlt | generally favors the notion that if somebody wants a list, they're free to create it -- so long as the general understanding and expectation is that lists are allowed to and /will/ die after a few months in inactivity |
| 21:21 | rambutan | off topic discussion, but I'm sensitive to the need to not distract devs from doing real work |
| 21:22 | rangi | talking to your users is real work |
| 21:22 | any dev that thinks it isnt, isnt a very good dev | |
| 21:22 | :) | |
| 21:22 | gmcharlt | and it's not like IRC is like a phone |
| 21:22 | rangi | phones-- |
| 21:22 | gmcharlt | in *principle* a dev can turn it off if they need to concentrate |
| 21:22 | in practice... it does vary a bit ;) | |
| 21:23 | rambutan | yea, well, nice of you to say so, but when devs are talking about how to implement a bubble-up-and-down sort using javascript, it just doesn't seem.... |
| 21:23 | nengard | I think that we've gotten too sensitive on issues like this (user groups and such) because of past evils ... it's not all gonna go the way it did in the past |
| 21:23 | rambutan | right to break in with a question about how to integrate a children's playstation with koha |
| 21:24 | rangi | ahh, it's totally right to do that, as long as you dont specifically address one |
| 21:24 | thats like us all in a room having 2 discussions | |
| 21:24 | thats fine | |
| 21:24 | gmcharlt | if we had rather more people actively talking, I definitely could see more reason to split channels |
| 21:24 | rangi | its when you walk over and yell at me |
| 21:24 | jcamins | I can see value in an additional mailing list for people who want something more like #koha in terms of "I'm doing something nuts and I want some feedback on it" without getting a "PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME FROM THIS STUPID LIST YOU GUYS WRITE TOO MUCH" in response. |
| 21:24 | gmcharlt | but ... we're not /that/ chatty IMO |
| 21:24 | rangi | that that is bad |
| 21:25 | jcamins | gmcharlt: except on baking day. Should there be a #koha-cooking channel? ;) |
| 21:25 | rangi | heh |
| 21:25 | druthb | koha-cooking++ |
| 21:25 | gmcharlt | jcamins: that sounds positively torturous |
| 21:25 | all of those /promises/ of delcious food | |
| 21:25 | cait | mmh cookies! |
| 21:25 | gmcharlt | but nothing in real life |
| 21:25 | ;) | |
| 21:25 | jcamins | I've started deliving holiday cookies to the building staff. |
| 21:26 | cait | maybe we should keep #koha for the cookies, and split off a dev chat :) |
| 21:26 | gmcharlt | @quote add <cait> maybe we should keep #koha for the cookies, and split off a dev chat :) |
| 21:26 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #285 added. |
| 21:26 | cait | heh |
| 21:26 | jcamins | gmcharlt: so there are cookies in real life for some people, at least! |
| 21:26 | This is what you get for moving to Seattle instead of NYC. | |
| 21:27 | gmcharlt | jcamins: indeed; downside to every decision |
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| 22:01 | rangi | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]ytext.pl?RC=18704 |
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| 23:04 | cait | @later tell khall_away could you take a nother look at 11336? waiting to do QA there when the follow up is agreed on :) |
| 23:04 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:04 | cait | @later tell khall - could you take a nother look at 11336? waiting to do QA there when the follow up is agreed on |
| 23:04 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:04 | * dcook | waves so that cait can go to bed :p |
| 23:04 | cait | oh an di forgot to ask you about monday this morning |
| 23:04 | what would you have told me? | |
| 23:05 | dcook | Hmm, that's a good question |
| 23:05 | It started out rainy but got warm | |
| 23:05 | I bought some new boots | |
| 23:05 | * dcook | doesn't really recall much other than that |
| 23:05 | dcook | Mangos are delicious especially with ice cream? |
| 23:05 | cait | lol |
| 23:05 | not with icecream? | |
| 23:05 | well mango icecream is delicious | |
| 23:05 | dcook | Also delicious |
| 23:06 | cait | oh misread :) |
| 23:07 | hm | |
| 23:07 | i iddn't do that | |
| 23:08 | but other weird things happened... | |
| 23:08 | keep an eye on tuesday for me ok? | |
| 23:08 | btw - eythian - today we had white fog all day, you might have got lost :) | |
| 23:08 | dcook | Can do ;) |
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