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| 04:34 | wizzyrea | wow seriously, I say hi and I get a troutslap. That's novel. |
| 04:34 | jcamins | wizzyrea: that happens to you a lot, I've noticed. |
| 04:35 | Maybe it's your client? | |
| 04:40 | wizzyrea | i am not sure if you are trying t be funny. |
| 04:40 | jcamins | wizzyrea: no, several times you've said "hi," and some random lurker has slapped you with a troutpot. |
| 04:41 | *troutbot, whatever | |
| 04:44 | I'm wondering if your client might be set up to send I-don't-know-what when you send a message. | |
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| 09:58 | fredericd | cait: I've got a question for you about translated frameworks |
| 09:59 | cait | yes? |
| 09:59 | fredericd | taking a look at bug 11068 |
| 09:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11068 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, In Discussion , Update MARC21 es-ES default frameworks fields and translation |
| 10:00 | cait | have you seen the po files on pootle? |
| 10:00 | fredericd | I'm discovering that translated framework varies from one language to another |
| 10:00 | no: for po files | |
| 10:00 | cait | i think there are probably lots of inconsistencies |
| 10:00 | i know we found lots of missing fields and some typos in the en default frameworks as well | |
| 10:01 | not sure i fi thas been tried with UNIMARC yet | |
| 10:01 | fredericd | that's it |
| 10:01 | cait | my impression is, that the unimarc frameowrks for en have not been maintained :( |
| 10:01 | fredericd | the master 'en' version of the files has shifted from the original version which was used to base translated version |
| 10:02 | cait | this is still pretty much in testing, but i like the idea and my tests for marc21 look very good |
| 10:02 | fredericd | you're correct: it's unusable, being not it par anymore with zebra indexes |
| 10:02 | cait | http://translate.koha-community.org/de/ |
| 10:02 | there you can see the po files for marc21 | |
| 10:02 | fredericd | So it means, it won't be necessary anymore to maintain translated version in SQL files? |
| 10:03 | for frameworks | |
| 10:03 | cait | we can generate the sql files |
| 10:03 | from the po and the en file | |
| 10:03 | bgkriegel has done scripts for that | |
| 10:03 | and after fixing the inconsistencies i mentioned it looks quite good | |
| 10:03 | fredericd | Is there a bug number for that? |
| 10:03 | cait | i think we are stil testing mostly, let me find another link for you |
| 10:04 | bgkriegel automated it so for testing those files are regenerated... daily i think | |
| 10:04 | i have to finish testing, but it looks quite good, we did a bug report for fixing inconsistencies | |
| 10:05 | i tihnk best would be to drop him a quick mail, explaining about the UNIMARC problem | |
| 10:05 | bug 11330 | |
| 10:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11330 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Signed Off , Inconsistent field/subfield descriptions on MARC21 bibliographic frameworks |
| 10:06 | cait | bug 10963 |
| 10:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10963 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Simplified creation of MARC21 sample frameworks |
| 10:06 | cait | i am not sure what would work for UNIMARC |
| 10:06 | it seems there are some things special to how unimarc is used in france, that might not apply everywhere? | |
| 10:09 | fredericd | Marginally yes, but it shouldn't prevent to get a unique UNIMARC version |
| 10:10 | cait | maybe differences could be handled by some additional sql files, adding specialties to the default |
| 10:10 | but not sure how hard it will be to create a common source file for the translations | |
| 10:10 | fredericd | I suppose there are scripts to extract strings to be translated from 'en' frameworks. |
| 10:11 | cait: very hard. A UNIMARC/MARC21 po file would be dangerous | |
| 10:11 | cait | ah |
| 10:11 | no, i mant a UNIMARC base file | |
| 10:11 | with the problems you found fixed | |
| 10:12 | and a separate po file, and one for normarc later on as well maybe | |
| 10:12 | hm although probably noone wnats to translate normarc :) | |
| 10:13 | i am hopin to test the last iteration for german marc21 frameworks today | |
| 10:13 | and give him feedback about that | |
| 10:14 | ok, stepping away from the computer for a bit - will be back in half an hour or so | |
| 10:14 | fredericd | So bug 10963 is a preamble to making framework translated? by reducing the number of strings |
| 10:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10963 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Simplified creation of MARC21 sample frameworks |
| 10:14 | cait | fredericd: it's more a parallel idea for now |
| 10:15 | the scripts can generate the existing frameworks, that's the conflict bernardo mentions in one of the comments | |
| 10:15 | i think if that goes in, he will adapt his scripts | |
| 10:15 | making maintaining the different frameworks easier, so a new field for example has not to be added to all of them | |
| 10:15 | also triyng to fix inconsistencies that crept in over time, when we missed doing that | |
| 10:16 | fredericd | I'm worry about the intricacies with DBIx::Class... |
| 10:16 | cait | hm not sure if that will be a problem here |
| 10:16 | i think galen said something about th einstaller files in one of his mails | |
| 10:16 | about either make them run on postgres and marc21 | |
| 10:17 | or change them to another kind of file that can be loaded with dbix tools | |
| 10:17 | wahanui | cait: that doesn't look right |
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| 10:17 | cait | ok, really gone now - bbiab |
| 10:17 | fredericd | Current SQL files are pure SQL (mySQL). |
| 10:17 | ok | |
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| 10:44 | cait | back |
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| 12:14 | cait | magnuse or ashimema or another wiki expert around? |
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| 14:40 | * Oak | waves |
| 14:47 | cait | hi Oak :) |
| 14:48 | Oak | hey! |
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| 16:23 | bora | Hello from Cambodia! |
| 16:24 | I need help with Khmer Unicode. | |
| 16:24 | I cannot retrieve books in Khmer on the koha catalog | |
| 16:25 | When I do cataloging, I can type it in Khmer, but I cannot retrieve it on OPAC | |
| 16:28 | cait | icu? |
| 16:28 | wahanui | i think icu is needed, if you want to search non-Roman characters with Zebra |
| 16:29 | cait | i had hoped for a wiki link wahanui |
| 16:29 | bora: you want to make sure you use ICU for indexing your records | |
| 16:30 | bora | Sorry, could you explain me what is ICU? |
| 16:30 | cait | an indexing option for zebra |
| 16:30 | how did you install your koha? | |
| 16:31 | this could help: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]of_Arabic_records | |
| 16:31 | but leave out the arabic things :) | |
| 16:31 | bora | Thank you so much. We will try it. |
| 16:32 | And let you know if it works or not. Thank you!!! | |
| 16:32 | cait | np |
| 16:32 | hope it works! | |
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| 18:24 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 18:24 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.7°C (7:20 PM CET on December 15, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.54 in 1034 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:25 | brendan_ | @wunder 93102 |
| 18:25 | huginn | brendan_: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 19.7°C (10:25 AM PST on December 15, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:28 | cait | hi brendan_ :) |
| 18:38 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 18:38 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (7:20 PM CET on December 15, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:38 | magnuse | 5? wow! |
| 18:57 | rangi | morning |
| 18:57 | cait | hi magnuse, morning rangi |
| 19:05 | rangi | this is nice |
| 19:05 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-pre[…]sity-of-strangers | |
| 19:05 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11277: fix errors with search facet links in Bootstrap theme <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3b577cb05da2f7879> |
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| 19:08 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1554 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1547 4 days 22 hr ago) |
| 19:09 | rangi | im not sure what is up with that XISBN job |
| 19:09 | * cait | didn't touch it |
| 19:09 | rangi | nothing did |
| 19:09 | cait | could be something at oclc's side? |
| 19:10 | rangi | yeah |
| 19:25 | thingisbn | |
| 19:25 | not xisbn, so thats the problem | |
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| 20:00 | wizzyrea | hi |
| 20:01 | cait | morning wizzyrea and kathryn |
| 20:01 | kathryn | hiyee cait :) |
| 20:18 | wizzyrea | hiya |
| 20:19 | cait | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 20:19 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on December 16, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:19 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:19 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0°C (9:00 PM CET on December 15, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.61 in 1036 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:04 | * magnuse | waves to all the kool kiwis |
| 21:04 | rangi | hey magnuse |
| 21:04 | wahanui | magnuse is a Norwegian giant. |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 21:04 | rangi | did you see i got a patch in Catmandu? |
| 21:05 | magnuse | yup |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 21:05 | magnuse | and they took my advice on ingesting MARC::Record objects - hope that turns out to be useful |
| 21:05 | rangi++ | |
| 21:06 | cait | it looks like they are open for suggestions and help, that's cool |
| 21:07 | magnuse | yup, sure is |
| 21:07 | rangi | magnuse: yep, already using it for the elasticsearch stuff |
| 21:07 | magnuse | w00t! |
| 21:07 | ...which sounds really introguing, btw | |
| 21:07 | rangi | my $importer = Catmandu::Importer::MARC->new( records => $records, id => '999' ); |
| 21:08 | magnuse | ...or intriguing, your choice |
| 21:08 | rangi | my $fixer = Catmandu::Fix->new( fixes => ['/home/chrisc/git/catalyst-koha/myfix.txt'] ); $importer = $fixer->fix($importer); |
| 21:08 | then | |
| 21:08 | my $store = | |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | it's all cloak and dagger, when it's introguing. |
| 21:08 | rangi | Catmandu::Store::ElasticSearch->new( index_name => $self->index ); |
| 21:08 | $store->bag->add_many($from); | |
| 21:08 | and its done | |
| 21:08 | so easy | |
| 21:08 | magnuse | awesome |
| 21:08 | rangi | (well bit more too it, config and stuff, but thats the basics) |
| 21:08 | i want to change id => '999' | |
| 21:09 | cait | khall: ? |
| 21:09 | rangi | in the Importer too |
| 21:09 | magnuse | i think i spotted a problem with using 999 for the record id - it's hardcoded to use $a from the field you give it? |
| 21:09 | rangi | yeah |
| 21:09 | thats what i want to fix | |
| 21:09 | magnuse | cool |
| 21:09 | rangi | id=>999$c |
| 21:09 | or something | |
| 21:09 | wahanui | it has been said that something is fishy |
| 21:09 | rangi | let you pass in the subfield |
| 21:09 | magnuse | i think they usually just say 999a |
| 21:09 | rangi | 999c then |
| 21:10 | maybe 999|c | |
| 21:10 | then split on | | |
| 21:10 | just to make it cleaner | |
| 21:11 | magnuse | you can say marc_map( '245a','dc:title' );, so i thought it would make sense to use 999c, but a delimiter might be cleaner |
| 21:11 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1554: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1554/ |
| 21:11 | Frédéric Demians: Bug 11277: fix errors with search facet links in Bootstrap theme | |
| 21:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11277 major, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Bootstrap theme: error in link for showing all facets |
| 21:22 | magnuse | have fun #koha! |
| 21:22 | cait | good night magnuse |
| 21:34 | eythian | hi |
| 21:35 | cait | hi eythian |
| 21:36 | eythian | How's Konstanz? |
| 21:36 | @wunder nzwn | |
| 21:36 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on December 16, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:36 | cait | eythian: grey and cold? |
| 21:36 | eythian | here it's grey and warm. |
| 21:36 | cait | hm |
| 21:37 | I'd prefer getting rid of the grey bit | |
| 21:37 | eythian | Apparently serious thunderstorms up north yesterday, but here it was clear skys. So I'm OK with that. |
| 21:38 | And last night was the first night I couldn't sleep because it was too warm that I've had this summer. | |
| 21:39 | cait | just come bakc here - no problem with too warm :) |
| 21:44 | eythian | heh, but then I'll get lost in fog or something. |
| 21:46 | cait | hehe - no fog on the ground, you will be safe |
| 21:50 | meh, forgot to switch branches, now have to repeat all my tests :( | |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | boo |
| 21:58 | eythian | cait: I think that if tomorrow is like today, it'll be a shorts-wearing day. |
| 21:59 | Well, actually, I'll be seeing the hobbit later, then it'll be cooler, so maybe not... | |
| 21:59 | cait | i think if tomorrow is like today, i will just want to stay in bed |
| 21:59 | eythian | hwh |
| 21:59 | *e | |
| 21:59 | cait | ;) |
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| 22:34 | cait | good night all |
| 22:34 | dcook is here... i better go ;) | |
| 22:34 | dcook | lol |
| 22:34 | night, cait ;) | |
| 22:34 | See you in the morning :) | |
| 22:35 | cait | :) |
| 22:35 | you can tell me how monday was then, so I am prepared | |
| 22:35 | rangi | hehe ok |
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| 22:38 | dcook | lol |
| 22:39 | Started out with light showers but I think I see the sun peaking out from behind the clouds | |
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| 23:55 | dcook | morning, Irma :) |
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