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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:10 | mtompset | Greetings, papa. |
| 00:11 | If we install sample news, do we expect to only install sample news? | |
| 00:12 | (i.e. lose all previous news which may be entered) | |
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| 00:26 | wizzyrea | I wouldn't make that assumption |
| 00:29 | eythian | yeah, I shouldn't think so. Seems dangerous. |
| 00:41 | mtompset | While working on News by Branch, because kf/cait suggested I also edit the other sample_news.sql |
| 00:41 | some had truncate in them! | |
| 00:42 | (for each language, I had only done english) | |
| 00:45 | I figure if someone attempted to run one of those language specific ones, they get hit with the truncate and that would be bad. | |
| 00:45 | I'm trying to make them all similar. | |
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| 00:56 | wizzyrea | seems sensible |
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| 01:35 | papa | greetings mtompset |
| 01:36 | mtompset | Oh, and greetings, eythian and wizzyrea. Thanks for the feedback. |
| 01:36 | eythian | hi |
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| 01:36 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 01:36 | mtompset | Hmm... |
| 01:37 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "What would you expect?" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/29 |
| 01:37 | mtompset | Next question that I need to figure out. :) |
| 01:37 | YoungLibrarian | Hello all. I was just wondering if Koha has an associated Spine Label creator or what other librarians use to create spine labels with Koha. |
| 01:38 | wizzyrea | it does have a spine label creator, it's under tools -> label creator |
| 01:39 | * dcook | thinks there might also be a fast spine label generator from the detail page as well |
| 01:39 | wizzyrea | there is, I think it's for a very limited workflow though |
| 01:39 | mtompset | Greetings, dcook. |
| 01:40 | YoungLibrarian | Is it user friendly? The cataloger here is used to using the Voyager Spine Label creator and very hard to convience to move to another program... |
| 01:40 | eythian | mtompset: probably that you'd end up with all the news items. |
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| 01:41 | mtompset | Actually, you don't, and that's why I'm asking. |
| 01:41 | The idnews field is autoincrement, but some of the files actually attempt to insert specific idnews numbers. | |
| 01:41 | dcook | hey mtompset |
| 01:41 | wahanui | mtompset is probably catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. |
| 01:41 | wizzyrea | remind them that change is the only constant. As to it's user friendliness, once it's set up it's not bad, no. |
| 01:42 | dcook | Also, you could try out a demo: http://koha-community.org/demo/ |
| 01:42 | YoungLibrarian | Does anyone know the VgerSpin program or how similar it is to the Koha spine label program? |
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| 01:43 | * wizzyrea | tries desperately not to know anything about voyager. |
| 01:44 | YoungLibrarian | Very smart idea! LOL |
| 01:46 | Okay, well thank you everyone. I'll look into the Spine Label creator under Tools as soon as I can convience someone with more privligies to log in for me. :D | |
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| 02:10 | mtj | oooh -> http://www.vim3d.com/ |
| 02:19 | bag | heya mtj |
| 02:20 | man I dislike being a day behind you NZ peeps - I was thinking that I could see the hobbit tonight at 12:01am - but also being here the Hobbit doesn't open untli the 13th here | |
| 02:21 | anyways cool news about the trademark | |
| 02:21 | I didn't get into work today until like 4pm (poor gingin still has a high fever) | |
| 02:22 | mtj | hey baggins |
| 02:23 | wizzyrea | poor ginny |
| 02:24 | eythian | bag: it came out in Europe about 12 hours _before_ it came out here, which is hardly fair. |
| 02:24 | bag | booo |
| 02:24 | I know wizzyrea is going your today is eythian going your today too? | |
| 02:25 | eythian | No, I'm not. |
| 02:25 | bag | ah |
| 02:25 | eythian | wait, I thought it was first thing this morning here. |
| 02:25 | wizzyrea | it was |
| 02:25 | eythian | ah, good, not crazy then :) |
| 02:25 | bag | mtj you a movie goer? |
| 02:25 | wizzyrea | 1201 was the first showing |
| 02:25 | eythian | I will probably see it in the next week or so |
| 02:25 | wizzyrea | we are going tonight :P |
| 02:25 | bag | 0001 was the first showing :P |
| 02:25 | heh | |
| 02:25 | wizzyrea | ok fine. geez. |
| 02:26 | pack of jokers round here. | |
| 02:26 | bag | it's 0001 2013-12-13 here though |
| 02:26 | eythian | oh, thought you were going to the midnight one. |
| 02:26 | wizzyrea | naw |
| 02:26 | was yesterday ;0 | |
| 02:26 | ;) | |
| 02:26 | well early today. | |
| 02:27 | for you jokers. | |
| 02:30 | mtompset | bag: Really? There's a Thursday showing here in my tiny town of Bolton. ;) |
| 02:31 | bag | the US release date is 2013-12-13 |
| 02:32 | mtompset | It is here in Canada too, but there's a pre-release show date here. :) |
| 02:32 | bag | no pre-release here |
| 02:33 | mtompset | So, next question, other than the "why does fixing one thing highlight a problem elsewhere?"... |
| 02:33 | Let's say I went crazy and ran all the sample_news.sql files available. | |
| 02:34 | This means that we have news for language interfaces which may not be installed. | |
| 02:34 | 1) Should I cover that case? | |
| 02:34 | 2) If so, how? | |
| 02:35 | Particularly, since I only have the default English installed for staff and opac. | |
| 02:36 | Any suggestions? | |
| 02:36 | wahanui | Any suggestions are welcome. |
| 02:36 | mtompset | Yes, yes they are. :) |
| 02:37 | The filter dropdowns are limited by installed languages. Should they be limited by installed languages as well as news languages? | |
| 02:43 | mtj | bag, i do try and avoid cinemas these days, except for 'very special' occasions |
| 02:44 | …but, i'm enuff of a LOTR fan to consider those movies special :) | |
| 02:47 | ^^...that and any Segal new release | |
| 02:48 | heh seagal | |
| 02:48 | bag | HA |
| 02:48 | eythian | steven seagull |
| 02:49 | http://youtu.be/gg5_mlQOsUQ <-- specifically, this | |
| 02:56 | trea | oh steven seagull |
| 02:58 | mtj | woah, that looks like a thursday arvo rabbit hole |
| 02:59 | Van Canto, bringing German cappella metal to the next level... | |
| 03:42 | . | |
| 03:43 | peeps, does anyone have any theories about this common(ish) error... | |
| 03:43 | # koha-shell koha1 | |
| 03:43 | bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device | |
| 03:43 | bash: no job control in this shell | |
| 03:43 | . | |
| 03:44 | i've got a new debian VM, thats got this bug ^^ - its a real drag… :/ | |
| 03:45 | ...anyone got a work-around? | |
| 03:46 | dcook | Is it actually causing a problem, mtj? |
| 03:46 | mtj | for me, yeah |
| 03:46 | dcook | I thought that I'd seen that before and it didn't cause any issues. Hmm...let me see |
| 03:46 | Oh wait, I don't have Koha on my Debian VM atm... | |
| 03:47 | Sorry. I'm no help today :/ | |
| 03:47 | mtj | the koha-user's shell is kinda b*rked - with broken job control |
| 03:48 | jcamins | mtj: don't use a login shell. |
| 03:48 | wizzyrea | he means koha-shell |
| 03:48 | mtj | hmm, whats the alt. then? |
| 03:48 | wizzyrea | i'd file a bug, in truth. |
| 03:49 | mtj | wizzyrea, 'he' is me, or jcamins ? |
| 03:49 | mtompset | sudo -i then su - {instance}-koha? |
| 03:49 | jcamins | mtj: don't use -l. |
| 03:49 | * mtompset | is just thinking out loud. :) |
| 03:50 | * wizzyrea | thinks we should just fix koha-shell. |
| 03:50 | jcamins | wizzyrea: we can't. |
| 03:50 | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin[…]rt.cgi?bug=659878 | |
| 03:51 | mtj | hmmm … i dont use the '-l' arg |
| 03:51 | jcamins | Actually, that's weird. |
| 03:51 | mtj: add -v? | |
| 03:52 | mtj | hey mtompset++, your idea works fine, afaict :p |
| 03:52 | jcamins | I was thinking -l added - to the command line, but it looks like it doesn't. |
| 03:52 | mtj | so, thats a decent workaroud for me… very. happy :) |
| 03:54 | wizzyrea, i plan to file a bug on it | |
| 03:54 | the catch is… i think its a deeper debian tty bug | |
| 03:54 | wizzyrea | apparently. |
| 03:56 | mtj | but hey, swapping koha-shell to just use 'su -l koha_foo' for a shell , could be perfect and easy fix |
| 03:56 | i'll do a little more testing with it, this arvo | |
| 03:57 | eythian | then use koha-shell -l |
| 03:57 | mtj | oops, missed jcamins link above ^^ |
| 03:58 | eythian, i did try that before - problem still exists :/ | |
| 03:59 | eythian | in that case, making koha-shell use su -l probably won't help, as that's all that that does. |
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| 03:59 | jcamins | eythian: yeah, I thought -l added - --login, but it's just --login. |
| 04:00 | eythian | for su, - == --login |
| 04:01 | I suspect the complication is that I have to run a command to set up the environment and then invoke the shell, and that makes it unhappy. | |
| 04:01 | I mostly just use it to run commands anyway. | |
| 04:01 | mtj | i cant explain why… but it does fix the bug, on my fresh debian-7 VM |
| 04:02 | eythian | but it does an identical thing to adding -l to koha-shell |
| 04:02 | print out the command actually run, there might be a difference there. | |
| 04:04 | pastebot | "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha-shell fix..." (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/30 |
| 04:04 | eythian | that's not the same thing. |
| 04:04 | in one you use koha-shell, in the other you use su. | |
| 04:05 | mtj | well… |
| 04:06 | patch koha-shell to use 'su -l foofoo' , then (afaict) the bug is fixed | |
| 04:06 | eythian | it isn't |
| 04:06 | mtj | ok, explain to me why |
| 04:06 | eythian | $ sudo su -l -c "env A=foo /bin/bash" |
| 04:06 | [sudo] password for robin: | |
| 04:06 | bash: kan procesgroep (-1) van terminal niet instellen: Ongepaste ioctl() voor apparaat | |
| 04:06 | bash: er is geen taakbesturing in deze shell | |
| 04:06 | rootzarathud:~# |
|
| 04:06 | that's what's going on. | |
| 04:06 | not your example | |
| 04:08 | mtj | my bug is a shell with broken job control |
| 04:09 | eythian | yes, that's what that says |
| 04:09 | it's the same error | |
| 04:09 | mtj | mtompset's suggestion gives me a shell without broken job control |
| 04:09 | eythian | the point of koha-shell is to set up your koha environment appropriately. |
| 04:09 | mtj | mtompset's suggestion fixes my bug |
| 04:09 | eythian | if you use su, then you don't get the benefit of that. |
| 04:09 | mtj | mtompset's suggestion seems to do that, afaick |
| 04:10 | eythian | no it doesn't |
| 04:10 | mtompset | Yes, but if you have your environment variables in /etc/environment, then that isn't an issue. |
| 04:10 | eythian | mtompset: you can't do that |
| 04:10 | well, you can | |
| 04:10 | mtompset | But it isn't the best way to do it. |
| 04:10 | eythian | but not if you have >1 instance on a machine |
| 04:10 | mtompset | Exactly. |
| 04:11 | Though, you could always add export blah blah into the users .profile | |
| 04:11 | then then su - to it should catch it. | |
| 04:11 | (doesn't .profile run on an su -) | |
| 04:11 | eythian | problem then is that it wouldn't work if you don't want a login shell |
| 04:11 | mtj | eythian, the curicial bit.. |
| 04:11 | whats the difference in the new shells enviroment? | |
| 04:12 | eythian | KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB are set properly |
| 04:12 | and you are the right user | |
| 04:12 | mtompset | That is the main point of using koha-shell. :) |
| 04:13 | mtj | afaik, both methods are identical |
| 04:13 | mtompset | probably because of how you sent up your environment variables. |
| 04:13 | mtj | aaah, i take that back :p |
| 04:13 | i missed the difference :/ | |
| 04:14 | meh | |
| 04:14 | so close | |
| 04:14 | mtompset | What is the difference? |
| 04:14 | wahanui | i think the difference is with the package the upgrade is more-or-less foolproof. |
| 04:14 | eythian | :) |
| 04:14 | mtompset | so close and yet so far, wahanui. |
| 04:14 | wahanui | mtompset: i'm not following you... |
| 04:14 | mtompset | Exactly. |
| 04:15 | mtj | in 'su -l foofoo' both KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB are not set |
| 04:15 | mtompset | Right. |
| 04:15 | eythian | in fact, if they were set before, they won't be now. |
| 04:15 | mtompset | But that information should be easy enough to fix. :) |
| 04:15 | mtj | mtompset, yeah surely |
| 04:16 | mtompset | That's why I was mentioning perhaps adding them to the .profile |
| 04:16 | so that if you did this method, it should properly set them. :) | |
| 04:16 | but as eythian pointed out, without the login shell, you aren't going to trigger the .profile. | |
| 04:16 | mtj | yep, i was thinking something similar ^^ |
| 04:17 | mtompset | which is why I also mentioned /etc/environment... |
| 04:17 | which is *BAD* if you have multiple instances. | |
| 04:18 | * mtj | isnt super hot with shell/env stuff |
| 04:18 | mtj | eythian, thanks for the brain-slap |
| 04:19 | eythian | :) |
| 04:19 | mtj | i'll see if i can futz some better fix for it |
| 04:19 | mtompset | or you can write a shell script in some accessible location to set the env variables for you. :) |
| 04:19 | eythian | I don't think you can do that |
| 04:20 | mtj | $ sudo su -l -c "env A=foo /bin/bash" |
| 04:22 | weird, the ioctl error is seems to be caused by the 'env A=foo' stuff, before the /bin/bash bit... | |
| 04:23 | eythian | nope, it's the -c stuff |
| 04:23 | $ sudo su -l -c "/bin/bash" | |
| 04:23 | bash: kan procesgroep (-1) van terminal niet instellen: Ongepaste ioctl() voor apparaat | |
| 04:23 | mtj | aah, ok |
| 04:24 | mucho thanks | |
| 04:27 | eythian | does the Koha stuff client have keyboard shortcuts? |
| 04:29 | mtj | yeah, afaik |
| 04:30 | the staff circ screens have(had?) shortcut.js stuff | |
| 04:30 | eythian | cool |
| 05:03 | rangi | http://www.itwire.com/business[…]efence-contractor |
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| 05:16 | dcook | cygwin++ |
| 05:17 | Making Windows a bit more bearable... | |
| 05:19 | mtompset | Have you tried getting Koha to run in cygwin? ;) |
| 05:20 | dcook | At this point, all I've really done with cygwin is use rsync, ssh, grep, and find. |
| 05:24 | Yay! Down to 6 messages in my work inbox. | |
| 05:41 | eythian | does Koha allow self-registration yet? |
| 05:42 | I know it is/was in development, but can't remember if it's in yet. | |
| 05:42 | rangi | i think it might be in 3.14 |
| 05:42 | eythian | cool |
| 05:42 | rangi | but dont quote me on that |
| 05:42 | ive had enough of that today :) | |
| 05:42 | eythian | I'll say yes, worst case, we fix up the patch :) |
| 05:43 | rangi | *nod* |
| 05:52 | mtompset | self-registration? I thought it was in 3.12 |
| 05:52 | There's a whole self-registration section in OPAC system preferences. | |
| 05:53 | In fact, that's what I hooked into partly for the external authentication patch. | |
| 05:53 | Of course, I won't submit it, since it requires writing middle-ware. | |
| 06:01 | eythian | good to know |
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| 06:32 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha |
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| 07:28 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 07:30 | paxed | grep ' title="' `find . -name \*.p[ml]` | grep -v '/blib/' |
| 07:30 | <a href="#" class="buttonDot" onclick="Clic$function_name('$subfield_data{id}'); return false;" title="Tag Editor">...</a> | |
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| 07:30 | paxed | ^ is that "Tag Editor" visible for users somewhere? if so, it needs to be translatable. |
| 07:32 | rangi | evening |
| 07:33 | cait | hi rangi |
| 07:34 | it's a tooltip | |
| 07:35 | you can break it up and add _("") | |
| 07:35 | hm also | |
| 07:35 | if it's in the javascript... | |
| 07:35 | might just be already translatable | |
| 07:35 | if it's in the html | |
| 07:37 | * magnuse | shouts "kia ora" at the top of his lungs |
| 07:37 | rangi | heh |
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| 07:37 | cait | paxed: title attributes are translatable - i think this one was missing until recently, might not be in your po file yet, try updating |
| 07:37 | hi magnuse | |
| 07:37 | magnuse | oh and the trademark thin? |
| 07:37 | cait | how did it go???? |
| 07:37 | magnuse | confetti! |
| 07:37 | wahanui | hmmm... confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
| 07:37 | magnuse | confetti! |
| 07:37 | wahanui | i think confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
| 07:37 | magnuse | confetti! |
| 07:37 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 07:37 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 07:37 | magnuse | cait: i'm happy :-) i think it was a success |
| 07:38 | cait | more details please! :) |
| 07:38 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:38 | wahanui | kai ora, alex_a |
| 07:38 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:38 | wahanui | niihau, reiveune |
| 07:38 | magnuse | i had about 30 minutes too little for the hackfest, so everyone did not get around to submitting a patch :-( |
| 07:38 | cait | ooh |
| 07:39 | magnuse | there were interesting talks |
| 07:39 | cait | maybe you can do a followup? |
| 07:39 | magnuse | lots of chatter in the breaks |
| 07:39 | cait | sounds good :) |
| 07:39 | magnuse | yeah, i'll see if they are interested in finnishing what we started |
| 07:40 | oslo public library did an absolutely stunning talk about their needs and plans for infrastructure as they prepare for moving into a new main library | |
| 07:42 | cait | :) |
| 07:49 | paxed | cait: i've done "git pull" - shouldn't that be enough? I don't see that "Tag Editor" string in any po-file. |
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| 07:52 | magnuse | two caits - woohoo! |
| 07:54 | awww... | |
| 07:55 | rangi | paxed: no |
| 07:55 | that wont be enough | |
| 07:55 | cait1 | and what did this one miss? |
| 07:55 | interent here is a bit grumpy at tims | |
| 07:55 | internet even | |
| 07:56 | paxed: no, the po files only get updated before releases, you would need to do 'perl translate update <langcode> | |
| 07:56 | what are you translating? master or 3.14? | |
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| 08:14 | paxed | cait1: i've got master on my desktop, but 3.14 + some changes on the server (which is the one i translate) |
| 08:14 | cait1 | ah right |
| 08:14 | title attributes are translatable, you can see it if you go into the cataloguing editor | |
| 08:15 | and mouse over the other symbols | |
| 08:15 | so that hsould be alright | |
| 08:15 | every time the templates get changed you need to update the po file, we don't do that regularly on master | |
| 08:15 | paxed | ...ah, but you mean templates. that title attribute is in a perl file. |
| 08:15 | cait1 | only the translation manager does it before a release and puts the files on pootle that are then pushed before release |
| 08:15 | ew. | |
| 08:16 | well then it's not translatable. sounds a bit weird | |
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| 08:16 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:17 | paxed | the same string is in authorities/authorities.pl, C4/Items.pm, cataloguing/additem.pl and tools/batchMod.pl |
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| 08:22 | cait1 | should be fixed, but it seems noone before noticed |
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| 08:27 | cait1 | good morning paul_p |
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| 08:47 | Herwig | Question i activated OAI-PMH for an external database to harvest our koha ... now they ask to fill up field 001 and 003 ... 001 with an unique number that identify's the marc record 003 with our institution name ... anny tips how that is best done 001 and 003 are empty at the moment |
| 08:50 | magnuse | Herwig: i have some xslt lying around... |
| 08:51 | Herwig | ok what does xslt do and where i use it (sorry dont know) |
| 08:51 | magnuse | Herwig: https://gist.github.com/MagnusEnger/1918264 |
| 08:52 | let me see if i can give you some pointers | |
| 08:52 | Herwig | ok |
| 08:54 | magnuse | ooh, it's a bit tricky... |
| 08:54 | Herwig | lol ok i try to learn the tricky way |
| 08:55 | magnuse | you have to create a config file similar to this: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]/webservices.html on your server. in that file you have to point to an xslt file similar to the one i linked to above, which does the actual transformation of the records when they are harvested through oai-pmh |
| 08:57 | Herwig | is that the one i have to point at in the OAI-PMH:ConfFile filed |
| 08:57 | field | |
| 08:58 | magnuse | yes, you use OAI-PMH:ConfFile to point to the config file (and in the config file you point to the xslt) |
| 08:59 | Herwig | ok i start investigating that ... question 2 what do i best take as unique identifier (future field 001) |
| 09:01 | can i use the record number somehow ? | |
| 09:02 | magnuse | in the xslt i linked to, the biblionumber is taken from 999c and put in 001 |
| 09:04 | Herwig | magnuse i gonna try now thx for the info maybe ill be back (in panic) thx for the info for now |
| 09:05 | magnuse | Herwig: no problem! |
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| 09:36 | magnuse | ooh, dbic, elasticsearch, bootstrap 3.0, catmandu, rdf... 3.16 is gonna be teh awesome! |
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| 09:46 | cait1 | hehe yeah |
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| 09:46 | cait1 | if we can manage, but i hope we can |
| 09:47 | * magnuse | too |
| 09:47 | magnuse | and it sounds like there is some good momentum behind a lot of it |
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| 09:48 | magnuse | kia ora Viktor! |
| 09:48 | cait1 | hi Viktor :) |
| 09:48 | Viktor | Kia ora magnuse |
| 09:48 | magnuse | how's the knee? |
| 09:48 | Viktor | Hu cait1 |
| 09:48 | Hi :) | |
| 09:48 | Quite a bit better magnuse | |
| 09:49 | I can limp around in a decent pace :) | |
| 09:49 | cait1 | oh |
| 09:49 | hope you are well soon | |
| 09:49 | Viktor | Thanks :) |
| 09:49 | magnuse | good to hear it is moving the right direction |
| 09:49 | krya på dig! | |
| 09:49 | Viktor | Tack :) |
| 09:50 | How are you all? | |
| 09:50 | I've been offline from irc for a while. | |
| 09:50 | A bit out of the loop with how everything is moving along and how you guys are doing | |
| 10:01 | magnuse | yeah, never stay away for too long ;-) |
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| 10:33 | cait1 | Viktor: sorry, helping my dad selling my childhood on ebay... |
| 10:34 | bit on and off today :) | |
| 10:40 | paxed | is there a database table that lists a parsed version of the biblio marcxml? |
| 10:41 | magnuse | paxed: what do you mean by "a parsed version"? |
| 10:43 | paxed | in evergreen, i can do select * from metabib.real_full_rec where tag='100' and subfield='a' and value like '%tolkien%'; |
| 10:45 | looking for something similar, so i could do a query on any arbitrary marc field without needing to parse the marcxml with perl. | |
| 10:45 | magnuse | did you see http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ibrary#Query_MARC ? |
| 10:46 | Viktor | cait1 Hope you get a good price. I usually take a photo and get rid of the actual thing to keep the memory :) |
| 10:47 | paxed | magnuse: no, i did not. i guess that'll have to do... |
| 10:48 | cait1 | Viktor: similar thing here... and by selling i at least hope it goes to a kid playing with it - better than throwing out things :) |
| 10:49 | magnuse | reuse++ |
| 10:50 | Viktor | cait1 - Quite so :) |
| 10:50 | I'd say that is a GPL approach :) | |
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| 11:04 | cait1 | magnuse: GPL would probably be donating :) ... |
| 11:06 | magnuse | dunno :-) |
| 11:22 | nah, there is no conflict between gpl and paying for stuff ;-) | |
| 11:25 | cait1 | :) |
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| 12:06 | cait1 | bye all |
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| 13:17 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:18 | kivilahtio | hi oleonard |
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| 13:29 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 13:30 | magnuse | hiya tcohen |
| 13:32 | francharb | good morning |
| 13:32 | kivilahtio | http://www.radionz.co.nz/natio[…]-by-nz-developers |
| 13:32 | :) | |
| 13:33 | oleonard | http://www.itwire.com/business[…]efence-contractor |
| 13:34 | I especially like how PTFS is characterized as a "defence contractor" | |
| 13:35 | tcohen | heh |
| 13:35 | oleonard | This outcome is a nice win in a world where the good guys seem to be losing |
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| 13:39 | oleonard | I also like how that itwire article links directly to the Koha list archive message where Josh lays out his best lies about "Liblime Enterprise Koha" |
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| 13:40 | magnuse | stoush? never saw that word before |
| 13:41 | oleonard | Yeah me neither. Australian apparently. |
| 13:44 | magnuse | "a norwegian profile of NCIP" - is that really necessary? |
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| 13:50 | mtj | oleonard, wow, just having a read of that link from itwire -> http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]ember/020204.html |
| 13:50 | kivilahtio | magnuse: http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/NCIP? |
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| 13:52 | mtj | its quite an important moment in Koha history |
| 13:53 | oleonard | A sad turning point which could have been fixed by PTFS/LibLime if they had wanted to. |
| 13:55 | mtj | wow, its also joshua's last email to the Koha list ever!? |
| 13:57 | (aah, there is one later email where he scolds henri-damien for fucking-up the 3.0.4 release) | |
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| 13:58 | mtj | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]tober/020996.html |
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| 14:01 | * mtj | trolls off to bed, after checking some importing... |
| 14:02 | * francharb | waves to mtj |
| 14:02 | francharb | :) |
| 14:05 | mtj | hiya francharb :p |
| 14:06 | imports are still importing… back to sleep | |
| 14:06 | francharb | sleep itight |
| 14:06 | ;) | |
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| 14:52 | PabloAB | Hi all! |
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| 15:01 | pablito | hi all |
| 15:02 | i have persistent problem that's been bugging me for a few weeks | |
| 15:02 | hopefully you can help me | |
| 15:02 | I have Koha 3.14 running on the latest Ubuntu Server | |
| 15:03 | I've import 36000+ records of books | |
| 15:03 | but on OPAC search, the call number doesn't show | |
| 15:03 | it shows on the MARC View under "Full Call Number" | |
| 15:03 | but not on the search results view | |
| 15:04 | I tagged the call number field with 952$o | |
| 15:04 | anyone have an idea, how I can resolve this beside reinstalling Koha? | |
| 15:05 | jcamins | pablito: you did a full reindex, right? |
| 15:05 | pablito | yes |
| 15:05 | jcamins | Okay, then I don't have any ideas. |
| 15:06 | pablito | well, what parameters would you use to do the full reindex? |
| 15:07 | jcamins | koha-rebuild -f myinstance |
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| 15:13 | pablito | you mean koha-rebuild-zebra -f? |
| 15:14 | jcamins | Yes, sorry. |
| 15:14 | * jcamins | is looking for a heisenbug elsewhere. |
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| 15:16 | PabloAB | hi all! me again (firefox segmentation fault :/) |
| 15:16 | A field hidden in OPAC is still visible with "save record" function. Is there a non-nasty way to hide a field also there? | |
| 15:17 | jcamins | PabloAB: no. |
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| 15:27 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 15:27 | kivilahtio | good evening mtompset |
| 15:27 | mtompset | Greetings, kivilahtio. |
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| 15:29 | mtompset | cait: I don't know why those two lines were in some of the sample_news.sql files before. I just made all the sample_news.sql files consistent, and that seemed like the best way to get consistency. |
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| 16:01 | mtompset | SPLIT! Welcome back everyone? Or is it welcome back me? ;) |
| 16:01 | rambutan | TEST |
| 16:02 | guess I'm here | |
| 16:02 | mtompset | TEST ACK, rambutan. ;) |
| 16:03 | pablito | hi |
| 16:03 | wahanui | hola, pablito |
| 16:04 | pablito | hola whanui |
| 16:04 | :-D | |
| 16:04 | can you tell me what are the purposes and advantages of having multiple instances? | |
| 16:05 | of koha that is | |
| 16:07 | jcamins | pablito: you can have multiple unrelated Koha installations. |
| 16:08 | druthb | wahanui: botsnack Ghirardelli square |
| 16:08 | wahanui | :) |
| 16:12 | rambutan | druthb has clearly upgraded the snacks |
| 16:17 | oleonard | Dangerous... There's not an unlimited supply of high-priced imaginary confections out there... |
| 16:18 | rambutan | :) |
| 16:20 | PabloAB | Hi Pablito (hola tocayo) |
| 16:20 | pablito | hola, buena fiesta de la Guadalupe! |
| 16:20 | :-) | |
| 16:21 | PabloAB | Looks like you are Spanish speaker, but I never saw you on Koha-es, please feel free to join us |
| 16:22 | groups.yahoo.com/groups/koha-es | |
| 16:22 | pablito | i'm not a native speaker, I've learned for a few years |
| 16:22 | pablito is the name an hermano messicano gave me | |
| 16:22 | :-D | |
| 16:23 | but it's good to know there's a spanish speaker group | |
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| 16:25 | PabloAB | ahhh, sorry |
| 16:27 | pablito | don't be, I enjoy speaking/writing spanish whenever I can |
| 16:36 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:08 | gisjason | How do I apply a patch to koha (without manually editing each file) when we do not have our koha installation in git? |
| 17:09 | Or, is it possible to place our currently installed koha into git? The installation instructions I have found say to install git first | |
| 17:11 | This thread states that if we are not under version control to do it by hand: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ch-td3296080.html but the patch is rather cumbersome: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]21762&action=diff | |
| 17:11 | Thoughts? TIA | |
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| 17:11 | cait | hm |
| 17:12 | how did you install koha? | |
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| 17:12 | gisjason | Installation procedure on wiki |
| 17:12 | cait | which? |
| 17:12 | wahanui | hmmm... which is quite horrible |
| 17:13 | gisjason | looking for the link now |
| 17:13 | cait | hm you want z39.50 for authorities? |
| 17:13 | why don't you update to a current Koha version? | |
| 17:14 | you might want to wait a bit longer, but it's included in 3.14 | |
| 17:14 | it's also likely depending on your current version that the patch won't apply cleanly | |
| 17:14 | gaetan_B | bye! |
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| 17:15 | gisjason | currently running 3.12.06.000 |
| 17:15 | I cannot seem to find the install instructions i used. | |
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| 17:16 | gisjason | but it was def. packages and not compiled |
| 17:17 | when is 3.14 scheduled to be released? | |
| 17:17 | oleonard | It has been gisjason |
| 17:18 | packages? | |
| 17:18 | wahanui | packages is, like, at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 17:18 | gisjason | if that authorities patch is included in the latest version then I will just go update |
| 17:19 | that looks correct wahanui | |
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| 17:20 | oleonard | gisjason: wahanui is a bot who answers some questions |
| 17:20 | cookies? | |
| 17:20 | wahanui | Cookies are delicious delicacies |
| 17:21 | oleonard | gisjason: What authorities patch? |
| 17:21 | druthb | That's the second person that's fallen prey to wahanui today! |
| 17:21 | oleonard | Oh sorry gisjason I didn't read back. |
| 17:22 | gisjason | i like cookies. this patch oleonard: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]21762&action=diff |
| 17:22 | druthb | hungry? |
| 17:22 | wahanui | nom nom nom... |
| 17:25 | gisjason | looking for upgrade procedure on wiki.... |
| 17:25 | * gisjason | has weak google-fu today |
| 17:25 | jcamins | gisjason: it looks like that went into 3.14, so you can follow the instructions wahanui shared earlier. |
| 17:34 | gisjason | this is what I was missing: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" because I didn't notice that apt-get upgrade was skipping koha-common. |
| 17:34 | thanks for all your help everyone. this is an amazing community! | |
| 17:36 | and I always fall prey to the bots. it is one of my weaknesses. like capitalization in IRC | |
| 17:54 | nengard | can anyone tell me what framework the serial receive page uses for items? serials-edit.pl |
| 18:13 | cait | default |
| 18:18 | francharb | cait, |
| 18:18 | nengard_lunch, | |
| 18:18 | i think it use the frameork | |
| 18:18 | linked to the biblio | |
| 18:27 | nengard_lunch | thanks francharb |
| 18:27 | francharb | nengard_lunch, I just tested again to be sure |
| 18:27 | and it works | |
| 18:27 | wahanui | You should blog about it. |
| 18:28 | francharb | :) |
| 18:30 | cait | ah |
| 18:30 | sorry :) | |
| 18:30 | nengard_lunch | something is funny then on the site i'm on |
| 18:31 | francharb | :) |
| 18:32 | nengard_lunch | when i receive serials i don't see a field that i do see when i edit the items in cataloging |
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| 18:37 | cait | maybe it's the hidden value? |
| 18:58 | rangi | http://www.nzlii.org/nz/cases/[…]POTM/2013/47.html |
| 19:01 | cait | morning rangi |
| 19:02 | rangi | morning |
| 19:02 | tcohen_ | rangi++ |
| 19:02 | cait | grrrr tests |
| 19:07 | oleonard | "The Trust’s Koha LMS software and the opposed goods are the same except for the fact that the Trust’s Koha LMS software is free and open source." Nice. |
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| 19:09 | rangi | in terms of the function they perform yep |
| 19:10 | i hope people dont think that means they are actually the same :) | |
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| 20:03 | oleonard | cait++ |
| 20:03 | tests++ | |
| 20:03 | cait | hmm? |
| 20:03 | we will see, curious for the feedback | |
| 20:03 | mtompset | Anyone want a quick and easy signoff? :) |
| 20:05 | cait, does the HTML <a href=... title="TEXT">TEXT</a> translate the title tooltip text? | |
| 20:05 | cait | it should but you can test it |
| 20:06 | and only if it's in the tt file of course | |
| 20:06 | mtompset | Oh blarg again. |
| 20:18 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaKeI-97me0 |
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| 20:49 | Nicole C. Engard: add patron image section | |
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| 21:40 | Topic for #koha is now Koha™ 3.14.0 is released! Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha™ project and software http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting January 2014 10:00 UTC | |
| 21:41 | oleonard | Uh... Yeah I don't think we actually get to do that :P |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | well it works in europe, nz soon ;) |
| 21:42 | rangi | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]ytext.pl?RC=18702 |
| 21:42 | the waldo libraries are leaving | |
| 21:42 | cait | what? |
| 21:42 | seriously?? | |
| 21:42 | rambutan | interesting |
| 21:42 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 21:42 | rangi | yep |
| 21:43 | http://nyack.waldo.kohalibrary[…]koha/opac-main.pl | |
| 21:43 | http://www.waldolib.org/members.asp | |
| 21:43 | to III sierra | |
| 21:43 | they do like to make bad choices | |
| 21:43 | cait | lol |
| 21:44 | hm seems only 1 outof 4? | |
| 21:44 | rangi | look here too |
| 21:45 | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]&InstallDate=2013 | |
| 21:45 | and then at http://www.waldolib.org/members.asp | |
| 21:45 | rambutan | library netsplit maybe? |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | oh man already? wordpress 3.8 zowie. |
| 21:46 | cait | seems the week of good news? ;) |
| 21:46 | rangi | sara lawrence is going to worldshare |
| 21:46 | another waldo one | |
| 21:46 | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]&InstallDate=2013 | |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | I think I will hold off on the koha-community.org update until I have a few hours to actually make sure nothing breaks. |
| 21:47 | rangi | 64 smart libraries are going from liblime to actual koha tho |
| 21:47 | cait | yeah good year |
| 21:47 | rangi | actually 65 |
| 21:47 | we did one too | |
| 21:48 | cait | hm weird error on my german bootstrap opac |
| 21:48 | * cait | ponders |
| 21:50 | tries to confirm bug 11277 | |
| 21:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11277 minor, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Failed QA , Bootstrap theme: error in link for showing all facets |
| 21:51 | cait | hm ok |
| 21:51 | that's not nice | |
| 21:51 | responsive? | |
| 21:51 | wahanui | i heard responsive was looking real nice |
| 21:51 | cait | responsive opac? |
| 21:51 | opac? | |
| 21:51 | wahanui | i heard opac was for patrons |
| 21:51 | cait | bootstrap opac? |
| 21:51 | oh wahanui. | |
| 21:51 | wahanui | i am a little bit creepy. |
| 21:52 | cait | hm if you click on the more links on facets |
| 21:52 | it brings you back to advanced search | |
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| 21:53 | wizzyrea | hm I confirm that. |
| 21:56 | cait | testing the patch now, i can't reproduce owen's problem i think so far |
| 21:58 | it seems to work nicely | |
| 21:58 | hm ok, a colon in a facet name is a problem... ew. | |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | does anyone remember peggy's issue with typing in any text box put it in the search box? I just had that |
| 21:58 | but a shift-refresh sorted it. | |
| 21:59 | cait | but that's with and without the patch |
| 21:59 | wizzyrea: i don't think she logged a bug about it | |
| 21:59 | wizzyrea | no she didn't but she talked about it for a good 2 hours trying to figure out her issue. |
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| 22:15 | cait | hm |
| 22:29 | rangi | hmm that email from cab needs some linefeeds |
| 22:29 | cait | hm which list? |
| 22:29 | rangi | main one |
| 22:29 | about circ rules | |
| 22:30 | cait | oh hm |
| 22:30 | yeah | |
| 22:33 | eythian | it probably looked OK in HTML |
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| 22:45 | mtompset | nooo... don't read the email. don't think about that email. must control scope. must control scope! |
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| 22:49 | mtompset | My over-reaction is in response to "How to print checked out items and news from the quick slip", since I am working on Bug 7567 which reworks the whole News mess pretty thoroughly. |
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| 22:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7567 enhancement, P3, ---, mtompset, Failed QA , News by Library: refactor, enhance, and fix |
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| 23:15 | mtompset | Greetings, kenan24 ebegin papa. :) |
| 23:15 | papa | hey, hi there! |
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| 23:33 | wizzyrea | cait re: 11277 - I can't reproduce owen's issue either |
| 23:33 | I'm going to sign off. | |
| 23:41 | 245c, it doesn't currently show in the OPAC, but it should, right? | |
| 23:42 | suppose you can add anything you want as long as it's got a span round it that would let it be made invisible. | |
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| 23:55 | mtompset | when you say doesn't show in OPAC are you talking about detail, marc, or isbd views? |
| 23:58 | visibility should not necessarily depend on CSS alone, but should be thought about in terms of information sent to the template file. |
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