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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:03 | dcook | Haha! |
| 00:03 | Found it! | |
| 00:03 | I use the Bugzilla good | |
| 00:03 | Just need to choose every status and every resolution when searching.. | |
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| 00:07 | dcook | bug 8251 for anyone lurking or reading the logs... |
| 00:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, colin.campbell, CLOSED FIXED, Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
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| 00:39 | gmcharlt | rangi: http://git.librarypolice.com/?[…]g;h=refs/heads/pg |
| 00:39 | wizzyrea | "glomp" |
| 00:39 | is that a technical term | |
| 00:39 | rangi | nice! |
| 00:39 | gmcharlt | yes |
| 00:40 | glomp. n. the sort of patch that mashes things together in a way that I never want to see in my RM queue ;) | |
| 00:41 | rangi | heh |
| 00:41 | gmcharlt | however, reasonably instructive for testing the waters |
| 00:42 | dcook | This is what I think when I hear glomp: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/glomp |
| 00:42 | But still | |
| 00:42 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 00:56 | mtj | i think 'glomp' is the sound a water-cooler makes :p |
| 00:56 | laurence left #koha | |
| 00:56 | mtj | gmcharlt++, very impressive! |
| 00:58 | dcook | mtj: I always thought that was more of a 'blurp' or 'bloop' |
| 00:58 | Mind you, folks think that we go "beepboop" which doesn't sound anything like what we do, in my opinion... | |
| 00:58 | Maybe "clickety-clack" | |
| 00:58 | * dcook | personally sounds the sound of typing rather invigorating. |
| 00:59 | dcook | sounds = finds |
| 00:59 | wizzyrea | http://i.imgur.com/edlEg.gif |
| 01:05 | dcook | I try to use more than two fingers :p |
| 01:10 | Dyrcona | dcook: Ever use an IBM Selectric? That is the sound of typing! |
| 01:11 | wizzyrea | ^ those old ibm keybords sounded awesome. |
| 01:12 | Dyrcona | The Model M. Someone sells replicas online. |
| 01:13 | Oh, not a replica. It's the real deal. | |
| 01:13 | I just swapped the keyboard on my Galago Ultra yesterday. It makes a world of difference. | |
| 01:14 | dcook | I don't know if I've ever used an electric typewriter... |
| 01:14 | I have used a regular ol' manual one back in the day though | |
| 01:14 | I think I have an electric one as a Christmas tree base at the moment though.. | |
| 01:16 | Dyrcona | dcook: I'd like to see a picture of that. |
| 01:16 | :) | |
| 01:16 | dcook | hehe |
| 01:17 | It's a bit of an unorthodox Christmas tree but I'll see what I can do | |
| 01:19 | Dyrcona | My mother had an Olivetti travel typewriter when I was kid. That thing was a joy to use. |
| 01:19 | I've been typing almost as long as I've been able to write. | |
| 01:26 | dcook | I could probably type before I could write, now that I think about it. Hmm.. |
| 01:26 | I couldn't read books but I could play video games :p | |
| 01:32 | Dyrcona | I've been writing about as long as I've been able to read. How I am not a published novelist is a mystery to me. |
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| 01:53 | user505 | FWIW, responsive.mykoha.co.nz displays just fine in the most current version of Torbrowser, which is Firefox ESR 17.0.11 |
| 01:54 | oh | |
| 01:55 | dcook | Good to know :) |
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| 01:55 | wizzyrea | hurrah :) |
| 01:56 | it's not *quite* current master, but it's pretty close. | |
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| 01:58 | rangi | seriously |
| 01:58 | that guy is a troll | |
| 01:58 | and needs to just go away | |
| 01:58 | (paul a on the mailing list, not any of you fine people) | |
| 02:00 | * dcook | thinks rangi must've seen his puppy dog eyes |
| 02:01 | dcook | I was going to read the mailing list this morning but got distracted |
| 02:05 | mtj | tragic... |
| 02:06 | rangi | yeah, derailing and destroying a useful thread |
| 02:06 | thats the bit that rankles | |
| 02:06 | mtj | hey, if anything… 3rd world computers are *more* likely to have linux on them |
| 02:06 | rangi | and if not, they SHOULD |
| 02:06 | why in gods name would a bunch of free software developers encourage people to use windows | |
| 02:06 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 02:06 | so much that. | |
| 02:07 | I was thinking the other day | |
| 02:07 | about the abundance of good that Koha confers across the world | |
| 02:07 | because it is free and open source software | |
| 02:07 | free in cost, free in freedom. | |
| 02:07 | mtj | …its older/slower computers, with expensive expired M$ licenses on them - that get ubuntu-ized(™) |
| 02:07 | wizzyrea | of course we talk about it a lot that Koha is in use in places that wouldn't have library systems |
| 02:08 | if not for Koha and linux | |
| 02:08 | and how the skills required to run it really do raise people up | |
| 02:08 | we emphasize sharing, and collaboration - these are library values. | |
| 02:09 | there are your warm fuzzie feelings for the day | |
| 02:09 | rangi | :) |
| 02:09 | wizzyrea | I don't feel fuzzie about windows xp |
| 02:09 | :P | |
| 02:13 | mtj | i'm almost tempted to make my point in an email reply… (but also can't quite be assed) |
| 02:13 | rangi | i dont think it would help im afraid |
| 02:13 | dcook | wizzyrea++ |
| 02:15 | * mtj | recalls previous rick-rolled koha-dev threads... |
| 02:15 | rangi | yeah |
| 02:18 | wizzyrea | ...isn't xp up to like sp3 or 4 now? |
| 02:18 | how can you call that sane. | |
| 02:18 | * dcook | lost his xp passkey so has no idea anymore |
| 02:18 | wizzyrea | me either. |
| 02:19 | dcook | I don't even see the point of Windows anymore |
| 02:19 | rangi | im quite proud i never had one |
| 02:19 | :) | |
| 02:19 | dcook | Nice, rangi! |
| 02:19 | eythian | I'm sure you can find one with google |
| 02:19 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 02:19 | hehehe | |
| 02:19 | eythian | I used to have a VLK mostly memorised |
| 02:19 | it may not have been quite legit. | |
| 02:19 | dcook | lol |
| 02:20 | mtj | eythian, thass gansta :) |
| 02:20 | dcook | The other day, I added an account for my wife, showed her the network share, and off she went doing her writing and internet browsing |
| 02:20 | What more does the average person need? | |
| 02:20 | Gnome3 looks way better than Windows as well, so I don't even see the visual appeal | |
| 02:20 | I suppose it's tough to shake off (Microsoft) trauma though | |
| 02:21 | wizzyrea | i really like mint lately |
| 02:21 | dcook | Debian-based or the other one? |
| 02:22 | * dcook | seems to remember there were two Mints? |
| 02:22 | rambutan1 | several different bases of Mint |
| 02:22 | mtj | slightly off-topic… anyone rememebr the RAM spec of paul.a's kiosk boxes? |
| 02:23 | wizzyrea | oh now he's incited us. |
| 02:23 | :P | |
| 02:23 | mtj | 256, or 512 meg - i guess? |
| 02:23 | * dcook | seems to remember it being something like that? |
| 02:23 | dcook | I suppose I wonder about all the different distros of Linux as well. I quite like Debian. I might try Ubuntu or Mint just to see what they're like, but...I'm happy enough. |
| 02:24 | Ubuntu has more forums if nothing else | |
| 02:24 | wizzyrea | there. rant complete. |
| 02:25 | mtj | i recently installed debian with xfce and iceweasl on an old-ish 1gig eee-pc |
| 02:25 | web surfing was quite snappy | |
| 02:26 | eythian | I have one of those lying around. I should do something similar with it. |
| 02:26 | rambutan1 | I have two netbooks running Linux, one Mint and one Ubuntu. Both 1gb. |
| 02:26 | mtj | wizzyrea++ yep, thats the one :) |
| 02:28 | wizzyrea | to be fair xp is probably fine if no one ever uses it for anything and it's inside a firewall or not plugged into a network. |
| 02:28 | rangi | it holds open doors well |
| 02:28 | * wizzyrea | nods in agreement |
| 02:29 | wizzyrea | air gaps are decently good at keeping xp from getting malware. |
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| 02:30 | jcamins | wizzyrea: unless you're that security researcher with the air gap-jumping malware. |
| 02:30 | dcook | I've been thinking about switching my netbook to Ubuntu or at least dual booting it.. |
| 02:30 | wizzyrea | I said "decently good" |
| 02:31 | * wizzyrea | is glad that your email filter worked |
| 02:31 | jcamins | gmcharlt: around? |
| 02:31 | wizzyrea | considering setting up one of my own :P |
| 02:31 | gmcharlt | jcamins: yep? |
| 02:31 | wahanui | yep. |
| 02:32 | jcamins | gmcharlt: where do you want me to push bug 10691? |
| 02:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10691 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , 5xx not properly linked by authid in authority search result list |
| 02:32 | jcamins | Assuming I like it, of course. |
| 02:32 | If it doesn't work, I won't push it anywhere. | |
| 02:32 | gmcharlt | jcamins: how about a create a new repo for you on git.k-c.org? |
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| 02:33 | jcamins | gmcharlt: that'll work. I'm also fine with pushing to koha.git/modmaint/authorities or something like that. |
| 02:37 | gmcharlt | jcamins: gitmastergit.koha-community.org:mm/jcamins |
| 02:37 | jcamins | gmcharlt: thanks. |
| 02:37 | gmcharlt | you alone have push access |
| 02:37 | rangi | unless you are using windows xp, and then the whole world now does |
| 02:38 | * rangi | wont let it go :) |
| 02:38 | jcamins | lol |
| 02:38 | rangi: Windows 98SE. | |
| 02:38 | As it happens, this is very secure because IT JUST CRASHED. | |
| 02:38 | rangi | heh |
| 02:38 | gmcharlt | rangi: so you're saying Windows XP promotes global collaboration? |
| 02:38 | ;) | |
| 02:42 | jcamins | rangi: are anzac biscuits a NZ thing in addition to an Australia thing? |
| 02:42 | rangi | they are |
| 02:42 | eythian | definitely |
| 02:42 | rangi | we probably invented them |
| 02:42 | pretty much everything in australia we actually invented | |
| 02:42 | including kangaroos | |
| 02:42 | jcamins | lol |
| 02:42 | Are they a really big deal? Apparently they're a really important part of Australian culture. | |
| 02:42 | * eythian | doesn't claim the platypus. that thing is too ridiculous. |
| 02:43 | eythian | jcamins: they are quite a big deal, yeah |
| 02:43 | you'll see them all over, especially around ANZAC day, unsurprisingly. | |
| 02:44 | wizzyrea | https://31.media.tumblr.com/73[…]1qdlh1io1_400.gif pretty sure we wouldn't claim this kangaroo either. |
| 02:45 | eythian | http://our-shed.co.uk/blog/wp-[…]cks-kid-in-th.gif <-- would totally claim this one though |
| 02:45 | rangi | there has been controversy about anzac biscuits lately |
| 02:46 | mtj | hmm…we should call them 'patriot biscuits'? |
| 02:46 | rangi | naw someone changed the recipe or something |
| 02:46 | mtj | freedom biscuits |
| 02:47 | damn, thats funny | |
| 02:47 | rangi | like they left out golden syrup or something |
| 02:48 | which is pretty much the entire point | |
| 02:48 | dcook | I seem to remember Arnotts saying that they were going to do something to them |
| 02:48 | But I thought that was a while ago | |
| 02:48 | rangi | thats right |
| 02:48 | dcook | jcamins: They are rather tasty |
| 02:48 | mtj | this really is all news to me |
| 02:48 | dcook | I think NZ might also have dibbs on Lamingtons |
| 02:49 | Lammingtons? | |
| 02:49 | rangi | and pavlova |
| 02:49 | and flat whites | |
| 02:49 | dcook | Still have yet to eat pavlova |
| 02:49 | rangi | and jet boats |
| 02:49 | dcook | Really, flat whites? |
| 02:49 | My wife was outraged not to find flat whites in Canada | |
| 02:49 | rangi | heh |
| 02:49 | dcook | She had numerous rants about the lack of flat whites |
| 02:49 | mtj | i think i'm thinking of afghan biscuits…with cornflakes?! |
| 02:49 | dcook | It wasn't until one of our last days that she had a cup of coffee she deemed "acceptable" |
| 02:49 | rangi | you can keep russel crowe tho |
| 02:49 | dcook | Do we have tO? |
| 02:49 | to* | |
| 02:50 | rangi | mtj: yeah those are afghans |
| 02:50 | jcamins | I always thought Russel Crowe was USian. |
| 02:50 | mtj | wow, wiki entry -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_biscuit |
| 02:50 | rangi | born in nz, mostly lived in aussie |
| 02:50 | dcook | Everyone is secretly Australian |
| 02:50 | jcamins | He's a bit of a jerk, yeah? |
| 02:50 | rangi | yep |
| 02:50 | thats the aussie side | |
| 02:50 | hehe | |
| 02:50 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:50 | mtj | Edmonds Cookery Book++ |
| 02:50 | dcook | So many people I thought were American...actually Australian |
| 02:50 | rangi | he was cool as hell when he was like 2 years old |
| 02:50 | :) | |
| 02:50 | gmcharlt | rangi: you know this from personal experience? ;0 |
| 02:51 | jcamins | Edmonds Cookery Book? |
| 02:51 | rangi | yep, we know everyone |
| 02:51 | jcamins: thats the one, kf has a copy of it. kathryn got it for her | |
| 02:51 | all the best recipes in there | |
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| 02:51 | rangi | heh |
| 02:52 | BobB must have heard me making fun of australia | |
| 02:52 | mtj | jcamins -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]onds_Cookery_Book |
| 02:52 | BobB | rangi was that you making fun of Australia? |
| 02:52 | jcamins | I have really weird authority records. |
| 02:52 | rangi | heh |
| 02:53 | dcook | IE7 is only in XP? Awesome. Maybe April will bring change... |
| 02:53 | * dcook | won't get his hopes up though |
| 02:53 | mtj | wow - The book has been described as "as much a part of New Zealand kitchens as a stove and knife," and at one time it was "sent unsolicited to every newly engaged couple in New Zealand." |
| 02:53 | dcook | I'm referring to corporate environments rather than Koha though |
| 02:53 | mtj: That's wild | |
| 02:54 | eythian | I have one of those around somewhere, I think |
| 02:55 | dcook | rangi++ |
| 02:55 | Catalyst++ | |
| 02:55 | mtj | rangi, for the record… -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzac_biscuit :) |
| 02:56 | * dcook | is reading emails - not being totally random |
| 02:56 | rangi | heh |
| 02:57 | dcook | Damn it, now I want Anzac biscuits.. |
| 02:57 | We had a bit of a ban in the house as they're too easy to make | |
| 02:57 | mtj | Legal issues - The term Anzac is protected under Australian law[5] and cannot be used in Australia without permission from the Minister for Veterans' Affairs;[6] misuse can be legally enforced particularly for commercial purposes. |
| 02:57 | dcook | Can't be eating cookies all the time |
| 02:58 | mtj | There is a general exemption granted for Anzac biscuits, as long as these biscuits remain basically true to the original recipe and are both referred to and sold as Anzac biscuits and never as cookies.[9] |
| 02:58 | jcamins | Seriously, these authority records... |
| 02:58 | so weird. | |
| 02:59 | Gemeinsame Normdatei, I'm looking at you! | |
| 02:59 | mtj | jcamins, you and liz should swap :p |
| 03:00 | jcamins | mtj: nah, she can keep her weird authority records. I don't need more. |
| 03:03 | wizzyrea | migration_toolbox++ |
| 03:05 | kathryn | jacamins rangi mtj:oh I'm late to the party! afghans = biscuits for breakfast! anzac biscuits are only good if you know the person who made them! <-- opinions |
| 03:05 | :) | |
| 03:06 | jcamins | Oh dear. |
| 03:06 | 10691 isn't looking so good. | |
| 03:06 | mtj | hey kathryn, this idea works with all biscuits, too ^^ |
| 03:06 | kathryn | add golden syrup jacamins |
| 03:07 | mtj | and sandwiches too :p |
| 03:07 | * dcook | tries to remember if they have "golden syrup" in America |
| 03:07 | dcook | I don't think I'd heard of it until I came to Oz |
| 03:07 | * dcook | hasn't baked regularly in 20 years though |
| 03:07 | jcamins | This is a disaster. |
| 03:07 | mtj | …also, sandwiches are better at other peoples houses |
| 03:07 | jcamins | I wonder what went wrong. |
| 03:07 | dcook | mtj: I don't know...I think I prefer my sandwiches |
| 03:07 | Mind you, I haven't had NZ sandwiches | |
| 03:08 | mtj | no no… the thrill of new condiments |
| 03:08 | jcamins | mtj: only when you're a kid. |
| 03:08 | mtj | ok, yeah, perhaps… |
| 03:08 | jcamins | I don't like other people's sandwiches now that I'm an adult. |
| 03:08 | * wizzyrea | suspects that mtj is really a big kid. |
| 03:08 | jcamins | Actually, I didn't like sandwiches at all when I was a kid. |
| 03:08 | I would have everything in separate pieces. | |
| 03:09 | I'd pile it all together, then eat the filling followed by the bread. | |
| 03:09 | wizzyrea | ^ is what spud does |
| 03:09 | jcamins | The odd thing is, I had no problem with the different foods touching each other. |
| 03:10 | I don't exactly remember why this seemed necessary, but it wasn't until my late teens that I stopped doing that. | |
| 03:10 | kathryn | mtj: no limits on breakfasts foods :) |
| 03:13 | mtj | kathryn, absolutely no limits on breakfasts foods |
| 03:13 | wizzyrea | beans on toast. |
| 03:14 | kathryn | oh and hi dcook :) |
| 03:15 | dcook | heya kathryn :) |
| 03:15 | mtj | wait, does that mean any food at breakfast time? |
| 03:15 | or breakfast foods, at any time? | |
| 03:16 | (fwiw, my rule covers both cases) | |
| 03:25 | * jcamins | reads the instructions for Munchkin, which he now owns. |
| 03:32 | eythian | it's good fun |
| 03:32 | I own that also | |
| 03:34 | rangi | oh man |
| 03:34 | i am so backing this | |
| 03:34 | http://www.kickstarter.com/pro[…]-zealand?ref=city | |
| 03:34 | To become a modern, trendy Food Truck or Cart so we can bring the streets of Belgium to the streets of Wellington and eventually all of New Zealand... | |
| 03:35 | SOLD! | |
| 03:36 | BobB | Irma is from Liege and she makes those! Yum |
| 03:36 | wizzyrea | oh man. |
| 03:36 | rangi | i really like the backing prizes too |
| 03:36 | eythian | ooooooo |
| 03:36 | wizzyrea | tell me they are putting that in the market across the street. |
| 03:36 | rangi | not unless you back it they arent! |
| 03:36 | kathryn | same thought wizzyrea :) |
| 03:36 | dcook | Oh my... |
| 03:38 | wizzyrea | daw send us to the soup kitchen. |
| 03:38 | that IS a good prize. | |
| 03:38 | dcook | Those are some legit prizes |
| 03:39 | * dcook | hasn't had a good belgian waffle in years.. |
| 03:39 | wizzyrea | oh ok. Even if I don't get to get a wafel every week for a month I'll still give em some money. :P |
| 03:39 | dcook | BobB: How far away do you live again? ;) |
| 03:46 | mtompset | Actually IE7 was in Vista. |
| 03:48 | dcook | Mmm fun times... |
| 03:48 | * dcook | will be stuck with folks using IE7 forever |
| 03:49 | wizzyrea | man screw ie7 srs. |
| 03:49 | vista also, should be dead if it isn't. | |
| 03:57 | BobB | dcook, we're near North Sydney, 10km from you maybe |
| 03:58 | waffles and beer? | |
| 04:01 | dcook | waffles and beer sounds awesome |
| 04:01 | Irma | Did I hear talk about Liege waffles? I still have 2kg of "sucre perle" .... |
| 04:01 | dcook | We should make this happen sometime |
| 04:02 | I don't think I've ever seen sucre perle before now | |
| 04:02 | Irma: I think we were all drooling over the prospect of Liege waffles :) | |
| 04:02 | Irma | the waffle iron will need a slight dusting but let's do it in Jan/Feb. |
| 04:03 | dcook | Sure. Jan/Feb should work for me :) |
| 04:04 | Irma | :-) |
| 04:04 | sorry back to work ... | |
| 04:09 | dcook | Same ;) |
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| 04:47 | eythian | In case anyone was following the Koha trademark thing in NZ, it's been decided in favour of HLT. mtj, you might be interested in that. |
| 04:49 | BobB | woot woot!! |
| 04:49 | dcook | \o/ |
| 04:49 | confetti! | |
| 04:49 | wahanui | somebody said confetti was http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
| 04:49 | dcook | confetti? |
| 04:49 | wahanui | confetti is probably http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
| 04:49 | dcook | confetti |
| 04:49 | wahanui | it has been said that confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
| 04:49 | dcook | :@ |
| 04:49 | BobB | Congratulations to the HLT team and thanks to mtj for your part |
| 04:50 | Irma | Great outcome! Thanks for letting us know eythian |
| 04:50 | dcook | Awesome awesome news |
| 04:52 | mtj | yay for the HLT Koha™ project |
| 04:57 | may it continue on its award-winning, next-gened path to ecilpsdom | |
| 05:03 | dcook | Eating bananas while programming is not easy |
| 05:04 | * dcook | just thought he would lighten the mood with another fact\ |
| 05:04 | dcook | eythian: Has that result been published anywhere that one could link to? |
| 05:04 | eythian | I had a brief look but couldn't find it. |
| 05:04 | I think the IPONZ site hasn't yet been updated with it. | |
| 05:05 | dcook | Cool beans. I'll have to take another look tomorrow. |
| 05:22 | mtj | i'm very keen to read any info on it - and/or chat about it over a beer sometime :p |
| 05:23 | eythian ^^ | |
| 05:25 | dcook | Beer and waffles! |
| 05:25 | * dcook | is just sayin'... |
| 05:26 | dcook | dbs: Are you around at the moment? |
| 05:26 | eythian | http://ubuntuone.com/2nhMGB1Pzur3ShLzMlvS3N <-- dcook, mtj |
| 05:26 | dcook | Actually, I think I figured it out.. |
| 05:27 | Yep, totes got it now | |
| 05:31 | BobB | eythian thank you, that will be a good read. |
| 05:31 | dcook | It's fascinating so far |
| 05:31 | Irma++ | |
| 05:31 | eythian | it is interesting |
| 05:31 | dcook | rangi++ |
| 05:31 | BobB | I hadn't realised CIT was a party to the proceedings. Well done. Costs awarded too. |
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| 05:32 | mtj | awesome, thanks eythian :) |
| 05:41 | rangi | costs awarded too |
| 05:48 | dcook | Yay for the result and the costs awarded |
| 05:48 | Very interesting findings | |
| 05:49 | * rangi | has to go talk to reporters now |
| 05:57 | mtompset | Hmmm... So basically the applicants can't use "Koha" in NZ? |
| 05:58 | * mtompset | is going to bed having succeeded at getting his 38.69K patch tested successfully. :) |
| 06:00 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. The ruling already is nice. :) |
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| 07:09 | mtj | man, i tell ya… i can crash mysql just by looking at it :/ |
| 07:13 | ive been trying to switch to 'innodb_file_per_table' | |
| 07:15 | after reboot, mysql always comes up completely borked | |
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| 07:35 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:35 | wahanui | niihau, reiveune |
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| 07:59 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:10 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:12 | cait | hello all |
| 08:56 | Joubu | Hello #koha |
| 08:56 | I'm happy to see that there has been answers to my email :) | |
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| 09:04 | kivilahtio | Joubu: If I want a timetamp yyyymmddhhmmss or similar format, should I use Koha::DateUtils, or Koha::Calendar or C4::Dates? |
| 09:05 | We should use Koha:: IMHO but the Koha::DateUtils is a temporary module for wrappers to hide the complexity of switch to DateTime? | |
| 09:05 | Joubu | kivilahtio: use Koha:: DateUtils |
| 09:05 | kivilahtio | nothing is more persistent than temporary :) |
| 09:05 | thanks | |
| 09:06 | Joubu | kivilahtio: if you want to display a date depending on the pref format (dateformat) use the Koha:: DateUtils::output_pref routine |
| 09:07 | kivilahtio | Joubu: wow someone has documented this since I last took a look into this |
| 09:07 | Joubu: I'll try to wrap my head around this | |
| 09:11 | cait | kivilahtio: don't use C4:* |
| 09:33 | kivilahtio | So what is the proper term for staff client/intranet/staff interface? |
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| 09:58 | ashimema | Mornin' #koha |
| 10:42 | cait | morning ashimema |
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| 11:08 | rangi | i should be on here tomorrow http://www.radionz.co.nz/natio[…]mes/morningreport |
| 11:08 | at about 7.30am nz time | |
| 11:08 | cait | cool |
| 11:09 | seems you can listen live without problems from germany | |
| 11:09 | rangi | talking about the fact that the liblime trademark has been rejected |
| 11:09 | cait | woohoo! |
| 11:09 | confetti! | |
| 11:09 | wahanui | it has been said that confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
| 11:09 | cait | hehe :) |
| 11:09 | rangi | so i better hit the hay, so i wake up in time |
| 11:10 | cait | sleep well |
| 11:23 | * mtj | sets his alarm for 7:30am |
| 11:24 | cait | :) |
| 11:24 | hi mtj :) | |
| 11:26 | * mtj | ponders how many years its been, since he waited for this good news… |
| 11:26 | mtj | hiya cait |
| 11:34 | cait | too many |
| 11:39 | mtj | indeed - the wheels of justice, greed and stupidity turn slow |
| 11:39 | cait | at least we got the right ending |
| 11:55 | kivilahtio | So I can listen to the programme afterwards it seems |
| 11:56 | so very cool, I'll advertise this around! | |
| 11:56 | mtj | ha, yeah… that is a good point cait :) |
| 11:56 | kivilahtio | I hope someone could remind mne about this :) |
| 11:57 | * mtj | sets kivilahtio's alarm for 7:30am :p |
| 11:58 | mtj | hokay, i'm off to bed too… nite all |
| 11:58 | kivilahtio | mtj: We have bathroom renovations in our apartment block. I get a regular alarm every morning 7:30-8:30 am whether I wanted it or not |
| 11:58 | gnite! | |
| 11:58 | mtj | man, thats a bummer ^^ |
| 11:59 | kivilahtio | Well we get new porcelain |
| 11:59 | to replace the piss-burnt ones | |
| 11:59 | mtj | lol, great phrase! |
| 12:05 | kivilahtio | mtj: I've got plenty of those in my sleeve :) |
| 12:05 | go to bed now, whoosh | |
| 12:12 | cait | kivilahtio: 19:30 here of course, i set my phone |
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| 12:31 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 12:31 | cait | morning tcohen |
| 12:31 | did you see the big good news yet? | |
| 12:32 | tcohen | nope |
| 12:32 | which? | |
| 12:32 | wahanui | which is, like, quite horrible |
| 12:32 | cait | nz trademark is safe! |
| 12:33 | tcohen | weeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 12:33 | congrats kiwis :-D | |
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| 12:33 | cait | tcohen: there is a bit on twitter |
| 12:34 | https://twitter.com/normnz/sta[…]10654460357013504 | |
| 12:36 | tcohen | :-D \o/ |
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| 12:40 | tcohen | jcamins: can you tell me how to build an authority record that shows wrong with my patch? |
| 12:41 | jcamins | Argh! What happened to my hilite window?!? |
| 12:42 | tcohen: of course. | |
| 12:42 | * cait | hides |
| 12:42 | jcamins | The easiest thing to do is get a record from Germany. |
| 12:42 | * tcohen | wishes he knew more about marc |
| 12:44 | jcamins | But I *think* that you can recreate the problem just by putting a relationship into $w. |
| 12:44 | tcohen | ok, let me try |
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| 12:46 | cait | hi drojf |
| 12:47 | jcamins | Okay, hilight window is back. |
| 12:47 | drojf | hi cait |
| 12:47 | hi #koha | |
| 12:47 | cait | :) |
| 12:48 | tcohen | jcamins: in 400 for example? or 500? |
| 12:48 | drojf | the irc meeting in the topic is outdated btw |
| 12:49 | jcamins | tcohen: 500. |
| 12:49 | tcohen | jcamins: numbers from 0 to 5? |
| 12:50 | jcamins | I will check exactly what I have. |
| 12:51 | Actually, looks like it causes problems with 4xx too. | |
| 12:51 | 410 1# $aNew York (City).$bPolice Dept.$wnnaa | |
| 12:52 | 510 2# $aAstor Library$wr | |
| 12:52 | tcohen | oh, I see |
| 12:53 | is just a wrong newline! | |
| 12:54 | no, i broke it bad heh | |
| 12:55 | kivilahtio | breaking bad! |
| 12:55 | tcohen | i'll provide a followup, would you take a look? |
| 12:55 | jcamins | Certainly. Thanks! |
| 12:56 | tcohen | hi kivilahtio |
| 12:56 | kivilahtio | hi tcohen! |
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| 13:01 | * francharb | waves |
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| 13:05 | * cait | waves at francharb |
| 13:05 | francharb | :) |
| 13:05 | * tcohen | hates some variable names... |
| 13:05 | cait | oh? |
| 13:07 | tcohen | how would you call a variable that holds wether a link is a seefrom or seealso kind of link? |
| 13:08 | cait | linktype? |
| 13:08 | tcohen | like it, i don't like "label" |
| 13:08 | cait | you will have to argue with jcamins about those ;) |
| 13:09 | * jcamins | is not attached to variable names. |
| 13:11 | kivilahtio | tcohen: I would name it linkIsSeeFromOrSeeAlso |
| 13:11 | jcamins | kivilahtio: I stand corrected. |
| 13:11 | kivilahtio | especially if you are using it in boolean, or n-state flag |
| 13:11 | let the compiler otimize it :) | |
| 13:11 | jcamins: I would rather write code for humans that for computers | |
| 13:12 | jcamins | kivilahtio: but that variable will have the name even long after the variable's use is expanded. |
| 13:12 | kivilahtio | jcamins: good point |
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| 13:13 | kivilahtio | linkType sounds good :) And a nice documentation next to the variable about what it's values are ment to be |
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| 13:14 | * cait | is still trying to fix the links in the carts and lists... and meh. |
| 13:14 | cait | bug 5010 |
| 13:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Incomplete links in carts and lists sent from the staff client |
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| 13:25 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:26 | kivilahtio | hi oleonard |
| 13:26 | cait | hi oleonard |
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| 14:01 | oleonard | Seems crazy that we haven't added a "restore deleted biblilo/item" feature yet |
| 14:02 | kivilahtio | oleonard: I guess it might be usefull |
| 14:02 | oleonard: better htan creating those objects from scratch | |
| 14:03 | jcamins | oleonard: I presume it doesn't get enough use that people miss it. |
| 14:03 | kivilahtio | jcamins: Yeah, unless someone asks for, I wouldnt do it. |
| 14:04 | oleonard: Tho I have a gut feeling librarians here will come asking for it. | |
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| 14:10 | Dyrcona | Heh. In Evergreen world we constantly get asked why deleted items are not really deleted. |
| 14:13 | oleonard | Why does it come up Dyrcona? |
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| 14:21 | tcohen | jcamins, I should mark it needs.signoff, right? |
| 14:21 | jcamins | How big is the follow-up? |
| 14:22 | tcohen | small |
| 14:22 | jcamins | Actually, yeah, I guess we need another sign off regardless. |
| 14:23 | tcohen | done |
| 14:23 | jcamins | I'll put a note saying I'll review it again once it has one sign off. |
| 14:24 | oleonard | So how will PTFS compete in New Zealand now that they can't use the trademark as a bludgeon against competitors? |
| 14:24 | tcohen | d*mn I forgot the OPAC heh |
| 14:25 | jcamins | Oh, say, while you're editing the OPAC... fancy adding it to Bootstrap? :) |
| 14:25 | kivilahtio | jcamins: I always forget bootstrap duh |
| 14:26 | ashimema | anyone out there got a reasonably small, but quiet extensive in terms of use cases, marc21 demo database? |
| 14:26 | tcohen | jcamins: yes |
| 14:26 | jcamins | Thanks! |
| 14:27 | ashimema | I want to stick a sensible sized one on the PTFS Europe sandbox.. thinking one that include some analytics, and a few users of various types.. |
| 14:27 | just wodnered if anyone had compiled such a thing, or wether I need to strip down what I'm currently using. | |
| 14:27 | jcamins | ashimema: I'm not aware of one like that. |
| 14:28 | ashimema | cheers jcamins.. had a feeling that would probably be the case.. I'll get hacking at this one to trim it down a bit then. |
| 14:30 | * cait | waves |
| 14:30 | druthb | o/ |
| 14:30 | cait!! | |
| 14:31 | cait | oleonard: it used to exist - the undo deletes, got broken sometime along the way |
| 14:31 | oleonard | Is it possible in one query to pull title/biblionumber information based on barcode whether the barcode is in deleteditems or items, the title in deletedbiblio or biblio? |
| 14:31 | * tcohen | loves bonus points |
| 14:32 | jcamins | oleonard: in a monster query you could. |
| 14:32 | cait | druthb! :) |
| 14:33 | jcamins | oleonard: I think you'd need to use subqueries + unions. |
| 14:34 | cait | oleonard: yes, using unions would work, certainly possible |
| 14:49 | mtj | peeps, what the best strategy to handle a old koha- 3.0.4 , that is missing its $999x mapping, during an upgrade…? |
| 14:50 | tcohen | jcamins: done |
| 14:50 | jcamins | mtj: where is biblionumber stored? |
| 14:50 | Off the top of my head, the best option would seem to be a script that retroactively puts biblionumber into all the records. | |
| 14:51 | mtj | jcamins, looks like $090, (afaik, the default place for koha-3.0) |
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| 14:53 | mtj | hmm, this bug must exist for every koha upgrade, before the 999 move |
| 14:54 | tcohen | cait: bug 10691 |
| 14:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10691 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , 5xx not properly linked by authid in authority search result list |
| 14:55 | tcohen | is your bug, all yours :-P |
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| 14:57 | tcohen | jcamins: are 4xx$w and 5xx$w fixed value fields? |
| 14:57 | should them by handled by authorized values? | |
| 14:57 | jcamins | tcohen: sort of. |
| 14:58 | The authority plugin handles the normalish options. | |
| 15:00 | cait | jcamins: so those are not used for an id but for some kind of type declaration? |
| 15:01 | jcamins | cait: right. |
| 15:01 | ID is in $0 and $9. | |
| 15:01 | how about more marc? | |
| 15:01 | more marc? | |
| 15:01 | what we need is more marc? | |
| 15:01 | marc? | |
| 15:01 | wahanui | marc is the standard that isn't |
| 15:01 | jcamins | Ummm... |
| 15:02 | let's add more marc? | |
| 15:02 | cait | oh ok :) |
| 15:02 | we need more marc | |
| 15:02 | we need more marc! | |
| 15:02 | wahanui: we need more marc | |
| 15:02 | wahanui | cait: excuse me? |
| 15:02 | cait | hm. |
| 15:02 | wahanui: marc? | |
| 15:02 | wahanui | rumour has it marc is the standard that isn't |
| 15:03 | cait | maybe you have to be rangi for this to work :) |
| 15:03 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 15:03 | So it would seem. | |
| 15:03 | tcohen | jcamins: i dont' see any plugin for $w |
| 15:04 | jcamins | tcohen: it's handled by the authority plugin. |
| 15:04 | Because $w is not independent of $a. | |
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| 15:04 | tcohen | ok, i'll dig |
| 15:05 | jcamins | The plugin is on $a. |
| 15:11 | cait | magnus_away++ |
| 15:11 | seems like the hackfest is going well! | |
| 15:11 | i see bug reports coming in :) | |
| 15:11 | magnuse++ | |
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| 15:37 | oleonard | cait: hackfest? |
| 15:37 | wahanui | hackfest is awesome! Group motivated koha hacking is the best koha hacking :) |
| 15:37 | cait | oleonard: they are having an event in norway |
| 15:38 | yesterday and today i think | |
| 15:40 | oleonard | Neat |
| 15:49 | tcohen | ok, fixed bug 10691, and rebased 10987 against the latest patches |
| 15:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10691 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , 5xx not properly linked by authid in authority search result list |
| 15:49 | tcohen | Joubu: I got the bonus points as fixed for bottstrap too |
| 15:50 | Joubu | tcohen++ :) |
| 16:27 | oleonard | gmcharlt: You're just forcing mbalmer to file a new "Koha uses MySQL" bug :P |
| 16:28 | gmcharlt | oleonard: pressing the RESO/DUPE button is exercise, right? ;) |
| 16:38 | cait | gmcharlt: I am going to propose a few patches for bug 5010 for feedback... |
| 16:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Incomplete links in carts and lists sent from the staff client |
| 16:46 | gmcharlt | cait++ |
| 16:47 | cait | not sure they are any good |
| 16:47 | but maybe giving it a nudge and someone has a better idea | |
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| 17:26 | gmcharlt | jcamins: would be of any use to you to have the master branch on mm/jcamins be automatically updated whenever that branch on the main repo gets updated? |
| 17:26 | druthb | @quote random |
| 17:26 | huginn | druthb: Quote #244: "'If you really didn't do it yourself, then yes, the only other conclusion is you were/are hacked by someone who likes to upgrade Koha'" (added by mtj at 10:37 PM, April 30, 2013) |
| 17:30 | mtj | ah, yep - that was a good one… ^^ |
| 17:31 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:37 | mtj | and gmcharlt++ for bug 7365 :) |
| 17:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7365 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Koha should support PostgreSQL |
| 17:42 | oleonard | It's been a long time since we heard from the mysterious vigilante Koha upgrader |
| 17:43 | The Koha support cartels probably conspired to put him behind bars | |
| 17:43 | gmcharlt | oleonard: oh, if you miss him that badly, just wander over to #postgresql on Freenode |
| 17:43 | ;) | |
| 17:55 | gaetan_B | bye! |
| 18:07 | tcohen | jcamins: do u think that for bug 8018 we should just make 0 mean 'no limit'? |
| 18:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8018 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , New subfields have a default max length of zero |
| 18:09 | rambutan | @seen rangi |
| 18:09 | huginn | rambutan: rangi was last seen in #koha 7 hours and 2 seconds ago: <rangi> so i better hit the hay, so i wake up in time |
| 18:11 | cait | rambutan: he shoudl be on radio soon |
| 18:11 | rambutan | radio? |
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| 18:15 | cait | rambutan: about the trademark |
| 18:15 | jcamins | tcohen: that might be a good idea, yeah. |
| 18:17 | PabloAB | Hi jcamins, I have just entered. What do you think about my solution to bug 8018? |
| 18:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8018 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , New subfields have a default max length of zero |
| 18:18 | jcamins | PabloAB: is that the solution tcohen just asked about? |
| 18:20 | PabloAB | I didn't login fast enough to read tcohen question, but we were talking on gtalk. |
| 18:22 | Librarians and I break our heads trying to find out why we weren't able to add anything to a recently added subfield, because we didn't go to "more constrains" | |
| 18:22 | tcohen | the patch that introduced the maxlenght set a default of 9999 |
| 18:23 | PabloAB | I agree "0" might be "no limits", but that require more tweaks on source code, now the bug I think is a big one |
| 18:25 | That's right, at SQL level I think, but right now (at least with my Koha 3.12.06.000) If you create a new subfield and forget going "more constraints" you will never be able to write a bit in it. | |
| 18:27 | gmcharlt | FWIW, I have no objection to having maxlength of 0 be interpreted as unlimited |
| 18:28 | nor, for that matter, tossing in a $maxlength //= 9999 prior to inserts | |
| 18:31 | cait | talking about the trademark now |
| 18:32 | http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/live/national.asx there was a short note but i missed part of it | |
| 18:33 | rambutan | cait: ah! that's what I was inquiring about. I haven't seen the news, but surmised that the case had been decided against the trademark, so that is confirmed then? |
| 18:34 | google isn't showing anything about it | |
| 18:35 | cait | rambutan: https://twitter.com/normnz/sta[…]10654460357013504 |
| 18:36 | rambutan | tnx |
| 18:38 | oleonard | Can't... stop... feeding... troll! |
| 18:40 | cait | it's on now |
| 18:40 | rangi talking | |
| 18:40 | gmcharlt | *listening* |
| 18:43 | rangi | gah that sucked |
| 18:43 | should be on the site soon | |
| 18:43 | cait | no it didn't :) |
| 18:44 | rangi | umm umm umm |
| 18:44 | cait | ummwhat? |
| 18:44 | rangi | thats what i kept saying |
| 18:44 | gmcharlt | rangi: umms of joy, right? |
| 18:44 | cait | :) |
| 18:44 | rangi | heh |
| 18:47 | live to air interviews | |
| 18:47 | are hard | |
| 18:47 | when its going out to a million or so listeners | |
| 18:47 | FREAK OUT | |
| 18:47 | cait | rangi++ you did grat |
| 18:47 | great even | |
| 18:47 | gmcharlt | rangi:++ |
| 18:47 | rangi | ok gotta go catch a bus |
| 18:47 | oleonard | rangi++ |
| 18:47 | rangi | i managed to get a plug in for biblibre too |
| 18:54 | jcamins | For future reference, don't braise duck wings. |
| 18:54 | rambutan | Let me jot that down |
| 18:54 | oleonard | Oh no, did rangi really tell those millions of listeners to braise duck wings?! |
| 18:55 | cait | lol |
| 18:55 | rambutan | so jcamins, pray tell, what about the braised duck wings? |
| 18:58 | jcamins | There's no meat on duck wings. |
| 18:59 | rambutan | ah, yes, quite so. |
| 18:59 | jcamins | Having braised the wings, I am now just putting them in a stock. |
| 18:59 | rangi | Interview is online now |
| 18:59 | In ogg too | |
| 19:00 | rambutan | good |
| 19:00 | tcohen | rangi++ |
| 19:00 | rangi | http://www.radionz.co.nz/natio[…]mes/morningreport |
| 19:00 | rambutan | that other thing required a proprietary plugin |
| 19:00 | rangi | Scroll to bottom ogg link on the right |
| 19:01 | cait | they are really fast |
| 19:01 | tcohen | bye #koha |
| 19:04 | rambutan | rangi++ |
| 19:06 | rangi | Yeah radio nz are cool as hell |
| 19:06 | Public funded broadcaster ftw | |
| 19:06 | rambutan | good interview rangi, and yea, the ogg was fine |
| 19:06 | kathryn | yay rangi !! |
| 19:06 | yay koha :) | |
| 19:06 | rangi | Thanks it was live to air and I had no idea what the questions would be |
| 19:06 | kathryn | you sounds so kiwi! |
| 19:07 | rangi | I scrambled a bit |
| 19:07 | kathryn | nah, you sound like a real person |
| 19:07 | and not a scrambly one | |
| 19:07 | * cait | has to agree with kathryn :) |
| 19:07 | waves to kathryn | |
| 19:07 | cait | dinner time, bbl |
| 19:07 | * kathryn | waves back :) |
| 19:08 | cait | and if someone gets bored... igot a few patches waiting for sign off out there :) |
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| 19:16 | mtj | Koha™ FTW -> http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/2579603 |
| 19:21 | chris, well said, well done :) | |
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| 19:48 | rangi | back at work now |
| 19:49 | cait | :) |
| 19:49 | gmcharlt | khall++ # being a good sport about feedback |
| 19:49 | rangi | khall++ |
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| 19:50 | Brooke | o/ |
| 19:50 | * Brooke | hands rangi a cookie |
| 19:50 | khall | let it me known that I will mail any contraband requested to anywhere in the world if it motivates anyone to test the accounts rewrite more ; ) |
| 19:50 | cait | he really is |
| 19:50 | khall++ | |
| 19:51 | khall | cait: you need more peanutbutter cups yet ; ) |
| 19:51 | cait | hehe they are all gone... |
| 19:52 | khall | if you are going to the biblibre hackfest I'll make sure to send some with Brendan |
| 19:52 | Brooke | wait, are we bribing her with Reese's or Trader Joe's here? |
| 19:52 | rangi | lol i went overboard |
| 19:52 | im gonna put that in my .signature | |
| 19:52 | Brooke | it's okay rangi, at least you didn't beat a colleague with a rescue tube. |
| 19:52 | >.> | |
| 19:52 | <.< | |
| 19:53 | khall | I've got a Trader Joe's not but 90 minutes from home .. :;) |
| 19:53 | francharb | ? |
| 19:53 | * francharb | waves Brooke |
| 19:53 | * khall | lives in the sticks |
| 19:53 | * Brooke | hugs francharb |
| 19:53 | francharb | :) |
| 19:54 | cait | khall: :D |
| 19:54 | oleonard | rangi: overboard? |
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| 19:55 | rangi | koha-devel mailing list |
| 19:55 | wahanui | koha-devel mailing list is the best place for that |
| 19:56 | cait | khall: i only know reese's so far :) |
| 19:57 | francharb | they are the best |
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| 19:57 | francharb | ;) |
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| 20:02 | brendan_ | I can bring some trader joes peanut butter cups - there are 3 in my town |
| 20:02 | * Brooke | gasps |
| 20:03 | Brooke | surely we must corrupt you to try Trader Joe's dark when next we see ye >:) |
| 20:03 | hey pianohacker | |
| 20:03 | wahanui | I HATE XML |
| 20:04 | pianohacker | hey Brooke |
| 20:04 | jcamins | There are a gazillion in the city, but I try to avoid them. |
| 20:06 | cait | i am happy with the cheap ones too :) |
| 20:06 | * druthb | waves to Brooke |
| 20:06 | jcamins | Oh no! rangi's gone overboard! |
| 20:06 | * Brooke | winks at druthb |
| 20:07 | saves him | |
| 20:07 | Brooke | Don't worry, just stay calm, I'm a lifeguard, you're going to be okay. |
| 20:07 | jcamins | Rangi's still overboard! |
| 20:07 | ashimema | I get the feeling I've just missed somthing.. rangi gone overboard.. does he need a lifegaurd? |
| 20:08 | * Brooke | chalks up another save. |
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| 20:08 | jcamins | Brooke: I don't know... he was overboard long enough to lose his identity. |
| 20:09 | Brooke | that's hospital's problme |
| 20:09 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 20:09 | cait | ashimema: good thinking... we should throw him some cookies... |
| 20:11 | ashimema | Just listening to Chris's radio stuff now.. nice work chris. |
| 20:12 | Brooke | yep, said all the right things :D |
| 20:18 | rangi | heh |
| 20:19 | ashimema | he's back.. :) |
| 20:19 | nice work on the radio rangi. | |
| 20:20 | rangi | thank you |
| 20:20 | was nerve ranking, being live to air, and no idea what questions, dont want to do that again if possible ;) | |
| 20:21 | ashimema | I can imagine, would scare the crap out of me. |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | rangi++ you sound at least twice as coherent as the average radio interviewee |
| 20:22 | cait | wizzyrea: tell him! |
| 20:23 | Brooke | wizzyrea++ |
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| 20:27 | cait | hi paul_p |
| 20:27 | ashimema | I'm gonna get an early night.. see you all tomorrow no doubt #koha |
| 20:27 | paul_p | hi cait (& others) |
| 20:27 | sweet dreams ashimema | |
| 20:27 | ashimema_sleeping | cheers paul_p |
| 20:28 | cait | by ashimema_sleeping |
| 20:29 | rangi | cya ashimema_sleeping |
| 20:29 | hi paul_p, i managed to get in a plug for biblibre too | |
| 20:30 | paul_p | rangi ??? plug ? |
| 20:30 | cait | he mentioned biblibre and the EU trademark in his radio interview |
| 20:30 | * cait | translates |
| 20:31 | pianohacker | english -> german -> english -> french |
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| 20:35 | Brooke | right. I'm hungry and have a headache because I didn't eat yet. XD Laters folks |
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| 21:07 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 21:07 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0°C (10:00 PM CET on December 11, 2013). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.59 in 1036 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:08 | cait | so quiet tonight |
| 21:08 | shouldn#t we have a party? :) | |
| 21:10 | drojf | IE7 party? |
| 21:11 | cait | trademark party :) |
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| 21:16 | drojf | so, given the low numbers that mathieu gave for users of old browsers, the discussion is now if we want that paul a. has to upgrade his old computers for koha? :P |
| 21:17 | pianohacker | cait: trademark party? |
| 21:17 | cait | (20:16:57) mtj: Koha™ FTW -> http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/2579603 |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | ain't no party like an IE7 party cuz an IE7 party don't stop (until windows XP is EOL) |
| 21:21 | drojf | the xp is safe. for.evar. |
| 21:21 | wizzyrea | meh, microsoft says it's dangerous. They made it. I trust them, at least to know that. |
| 21:22 | drojf | just sales tactics ;) |
| 21:23 | gmcharlt | drojf: embedded in concrete with a Marine guarding it? |
| 21:23 | (re safety) | |
| 21:23 | drojf | lol |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | the only safe windows xp is the one that is holding open the door. |
| 21:25 | jcamins | wizzyrea: my digital door is always open thanks to Windows XP! |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | hehehehehe |
| 21:29 | jcamins | What should I have for dinner? |
| 21:29 | drojf | roasted xp? |
| 21:29 | with spicy IE7 sauce | |
| 21:29 | jcamins | drojf: heh. |
| 21:30 | Oh, wait. | |
| 21:30 | I have broccoli! | |
| 21:30 | Yay! | |
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| 21:48 | eythian | I deactivated the previous trademark document URL because we weren't sure it was to be shared. Turns out it is, the new one is at: http://ubuntuone.com/2nhMGB1Pzur3ShLzMlvS3N |
| 21:50 | cait | thx eythian |
| 22:15 | pianohacker | woooooooooooooohaa! |
| 22:16 | cait | pianohacker: that took a while... ;) |
| 22:16 | rangi | i like how they argue they dont do koha, and assistant commissioner agrees and says yes, thats why you cant register the mark, cos it would cause confusion k thx bai |
| 22:16 | pianohacker | I read the whole thing (for reasons I don't quite understand) |
| 22:16 | rangi | hehe |
| 22:17 | its actually pretty understandable, for legalese | |
| 22:17 | pianohacker | rangi: indeed! which pages are you referencing, though? |
| 22:18 | cait | wondered the same |
| 22:18 | have been reading it too :) | |
| 22:19 | rangi | its in their submitted evidence |
| 22:19 | which is referenced in the findings | |
| 22:19 | 2 secs | |
| 22:22 | 38.5 and 38.4 | |
| 22:22 | wahanui | 76.9 |
| 22:22 | drojf | lol |
| 22:22 | rangi | thanks wahanui |
| 22:23 | and 43 | |
| 22:25 | http://paste.koha-community.org/28 | |
| 22:25 | pianohacker | that's excellent |
| 22:28 | rangi | google translate now has maori as an option |
| 22:29 | cait | nice! |
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| 22:37 | wizzyrea | eythian++ for troll slapping. |
| 22:49 | talljoy-phone | marc? |
| 22:49 | wahanui | The MARC specs live at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ - abandon hope all ye who enter here. |
| 22:49 | talljoy-phone | thanks wahanui |
| 22:49 | wizzyrea | lol. |
| 22:49 | talljoy-phone | i needz to educate some librarians |
| 22:52 | rangi | heh |
| 22:52 | pianohacker | talljoy-phone: there's education and then there's sadism |
| 22:52 | talljoy | yes, true that. i am fighting windmills ,no? |
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| 22:54 | talljoy | rangi do you have youtube clips of all your tv appearances? |
| 22:54 | rangi | hehe ive only been on twice |
| 22:54 | but no i dont | |
| 22:55 | i think i could pay tv3 some money | |
| 22:55 | and they would get it | |
| 22:55 | but meh | |
| 22:55 | talljoy | mmm ok. cuz i've been on tv never. so you are two up on me! |
| 22:55 | rangi | it was bad enough doing it, i dont want to to see it |
| 22:55 | talljoy | you've had your 15 minutes minutes of fame plus some. ;-) |
| 22:55 | how did i type minutes twice? must have been a wormhole in irc | |
| 22:56 | rangi | my best fame thing is this |
| 22:57 | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]hp/unsorted/photo | |
| 22:57 | which was in the papers here in 2006 | |
| 22:58 | talljoy | what is that from? |
| 22:58 | rangi | linux conf |
| 22:59 | talljoy | ah! |
| 22:59 | rangi | keynote speakers |
| 22:59 | cait | :) |
| 22:59 | pianohacker | yeah, that's one hell of a photo. Who are the two on the left? |
| 22:59 | rangi | no idea |
| 22:59 | some weirdo and some finnish guy | |
| 23:00 | pianohacker | oh haha sorry your left (the right) |
| 23:00 | talljoy | i was wondering about your pianohacker |
| 23:00 | pianohacker | You're in NZ, I switched 'em |
| 23:00 | rangi | jon maddog hall on the right |
| 23:00 | talljoy | thought maybe you were using a mirror to look at your screen. |
| 23:01 | pianohacker | like the water in a toilet bowl |
| 23:01 | talljoy | lol |
| 23:01 | i got nothing to say to that. | |
| 23:01 | rangi | and rusty russell |
| 23:01 | talljoy | pianohacker i got a question for you. |
| 23:02 | rangi | (he did most of netfilters/iptables amongst lots of other stuff) |
| 23:02 | pianohacker | I've got a talljoy for ya |
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| 23:02 | rangi | and maddog is just plain awesome |
| 23:02 | pianohacker | rangi: So my most and least favorite person? |
| 23:02 | talljoy | is there a status of "not available" that can be shown on the OPAC for items. withdrawn shows Item Withdrawn Lost shows Lost, not for loan status shows Not for Loan. I'm looking for something that will display "Item not Available" |
| 23:03 | rangi | pianohacker: its way better than ipchains :) |
| 23:03 | talljoy | i'm guessing that 'Item Not Available" is not an option for this library. |
| 23:03 | rangi | hehe i like this spin |
| 23:03 | jcamins | rangi: but Debian/kFreeBSD offers pf. |
| 23:04 | rangi | Koha trademark case won by NZ |
| 23:04 | pianohacker | talljoy: change authorised value description? |
| 23:04 | wahanui | pianohacker: that doesn't look right |
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| 23:04 | rangi | thats right the whole of NZ won |
| 23:04 | cait | :) |
| 23:04 | pianohacker | rangi: victory just as much for the US :) |
| 23:04 | cait | talljoy: I thinkit might show for reference |
| 23:05 | if the item is not for loan/ itype not for loan | |
| 23:05 | and then we have on order, but that's it I think for the results list | |
| 23:05 | what are you trying to do? | |
| 23:05 | for the detail page it's easier... you could have a not for loan 'not available' ? | |
| 23:06 | talljoy | a branch had a plumbing issue and all the items need to be "Not Available" |
| 23:06 | rangi | "Covered in water" |
| 23:07 | talljoy | but when I put in a description for Not Available on the withdrawn AV and edit the item it still shows 'Item Withdrawn' |
| 23:07 | http://catalog.siskiyou.bywate[…]?biblionumber=678 | |
| 23:07 | so clearly the OPAC description field in the AV doesn't display in this case. | |
| 23:08 | jcamins | Is there a reason you don't want to just check mark them checked out to a repair card? I think you can disable showing when the item is due on the details page, and it look right on the results display with no changes. |
| 23:08 | s/check mark/mark/ | |
| 23:09 | talljoy | i thought of that. but i didn't really want to check out 5000 items to one patron, but I could. |
| 23:09 | jcamins | Tell them not to use the reading history page for that patron. |
| 23:09 | talljoy | lol |
| 23:10 | 6665 item records to be precise. | |
| 23:10 | jcamins | Tell them to buy one more book. |
| 23:10 | talljoy | ha |
| 23:10 | rangi | and pour water on it? |
| 23:10 | talljoy | it bugs my ocd as well to see that |
| 23:10 | 6666 would be better. | |
| 23:10 | jcamins | rangi: well, I think they'd better, so everything is consistent. |
| 23:13 | talljoy | if i check out the item the opac shows 'checked out' |
| 23:13 | that's no bueno either | |
| 23:13 | rangi | yay its pizza thursday |
| 23:14 | * rangi | goes to eat pizza |
| 23:14 | talljoy | it's potato wednesday here |
| 23:14 | mashed spuds for dinner | |
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| 23:15 | jcamins | Potato-pizza? |
| 23:15 | talljoy | yummy |
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| 23:17 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 23:29 | mtompset | If I add a string which needs to be translatable, it needs to be in the template file, right? |
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