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| 01:32 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: bug_10781: Remove C4::ILSDI::Utility <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3d597a9f34122f8ae> / Bug 11290: fix display of patron home page for certain translations <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]85fb3248ae8d668f9> |
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| 01:34 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #258 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 01:37 | Starting build #1543 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 01:42 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10688: Don't prefix index inappropriately <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5545c607b961587b7> |
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| 02:17 | wizzyrea | hm question, I have a library who wants the 245c to show in the xslt - I'm afraid it might be controversial - if it is controversial, why is it? |
| 02:18 | (in the opac, I should say | |
| 02:18 | like bug 9490, I think) | |
| 02:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9490 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, In Discussion , Show responsibility statement (245c) under title and move authors down in OPAC XSLT |
| 02:19 | wizzyrea | it is included in the staff client xslt |
| 02:24 | * dcook | hasn't taken a look recently |
| 02:26 | mtj | anyone know where a log file might be - for a failed 'dpkg -i ./koha-xxx.deb' ? |
| 02:26 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #258: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/258/ |
| 02:27 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 11290: fix display of patron home page for certain translations | |
| 02:27 | * Srdjan: bug_10781: Remove C4::ILSDI::Utility | |
| 02:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11290 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , members-home.pl displays badly if using non english templates and have a utf8 char in categorycode description |
| 02:33 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #259 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 03:25 | Project master_maria build #259: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/259/ | |
| 03:25 | Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10688: Don't prefix index inappropriately | |
| 03:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10688 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , QueryParser doesn't recognize QP queries when used in a fielded search box |
| 03:43 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1543: SUCCESS in 2 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1543/ |
| 03:43 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 11290: fix display of patron home page for certain translations | |
| 03:43 | * Srdjan: bug_10781: Remove C4::ILSDI::Utility | |
| 03:43 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10688: Don't prefix index inappropriately | |
| 03:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11290 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , members-home.pl displays badly if using non english templates and have a utf8 char in categorycode description |
| 03:43 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10688 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , QueryParser doesn't recognize QP queries when used in a fielded search box | |
| 03:44 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8683: ensure clear button clears all item fields on order form <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e994e0d45ee96f920> | |
| 03:49 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #260 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 03:52 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1544 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 03:53 | BobB | At Administration/Koha to Marc Mapping, does anyone know why biblioitems.publicationyear is not mapped to 260$c ? |
| 03:55 | ah, ok, I can answer my own question: biblio.copyrightdate is mapped to 260$c | |
| 03:56 | thanks BobB | |
| 03:56 | you're welcome :) | |
| 03:59 | bag | HA |
| 03:59 | joels68 | BobB: you're always the master of politeness and diplomacy.:) |
| 04:02 | BobB | joels68, I try |
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| 04:04 | joels681 | Bears 42 points!??! |
| 04:06 | @wunder Chicago IL | |
| 04:06 | huginn | joels681: The current temperature in West Loop - Old St. Pats, Chicago, Illinois is -13.8°C (10:05 PM CST on December 09, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Rising). |
| 04:10 | joels681 | >:o |
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| 04:24 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10661: format mandatory item fields the same on all forms <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ad364203d633580bc> |
| 04:36 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10808: (follow-up) reformat auth_finder.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]630fb989757d02f71> / Bug 10808: make authority search form retain drop-down selections <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d09602eda3787556c> | |
| 04:41 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #260: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/260/ |
| 04:41 | Jonathan Druart: Bug 8683: ensure clear button clears all item fields on order form | |
| 04:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8683 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Acq: Clear button doesn't clear all item fields |
| 04:46 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10605: fix encoding issue on basket email (INTRANET) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1ec5051704ab63f7c> / Bug 10605: fix encoding issue in basket email (OPAC) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]85f3b3ec74f316043> | |
| 04:47 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #261 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 04:47 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 04:48 | * mtompset | grumbles about testing continuing to find one tiny thread of things to tweak. |
| 04:48 | mtompset | Well, it will be done soon. |
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| 05:06 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11032: Check a valid MARC::Record passed to Biblio <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]43af1077291fe3673> |
| 05:39 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #261: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/261/ |
| 05:39 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10661: format mandatory item fields the same on all forms | |
| 05:39 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10808: make authority search form retain drop-down selections | |
| 05:39 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10808: (follow-up) reformat auth_finder.pl | |
| 05:39 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10605: fix encoding issue in basket email (OPAC) | |
| 05:39 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10605: fix encoding issue on basket email (INTRANET) | |
| 05:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10661 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Mandatory item fields should be formatted the same on all forms |
| 05:39 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10808 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Thesaurus search form does not correspond to current search query | |
| 05:39 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10605 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Problems with translated cart email sent | |
| 05:45 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #262 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 05:46 | BobB | @wunder Sydney Australia |
| 05:46 | huginn | BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 29.0°C (4:30 PM EST on December 10, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:07 | * dcook | looks outside |
| 06:08 | dcook | But I'm already sunburnt.. |
| 06:08 | Next time I see an Aussie putting on sunscreen, I'll know to do the same... | |
| 06:10 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1544: SUCCESS in 2 hr 19 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1544/ |
| 06:10 | Jonathan Druart: Bug 8683: ensure clear button clears all item fields on order form | |
| 06:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8683 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Acq: Clear button doesn't clear all item fields |
| 06:14 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1545 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 06:36 | Project master_maria build #262: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/262/ | |
| 06:36 | Colin Campbell: Bug 11032: Check a valid MARC::Record passed to Biblio | |
| 06:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Validate passed records in Biblio.pm |
| 06:40 | rangi | what the heck is a clearance certificate |
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| 06:43 | dcook | Clearance certificate? |
| 06:55 | rangi | on the main mailing list |
| 06:59 | dcook | Ah, I'll have to take a look tomorrow |
| 06:59 | I'll share your bafflement(?) tomorrow | |
| 07:00 | rangi | :) |
| 07:12 | dcook | I'm late for French speaking though |
| 07:12 | Ta | |
| 07:13 | mtompset | perhaps he means library cards? They expire, right? |
| 07:18 | Have a great day, #koha. | |
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| 07:37 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:01 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:10 | rangi | evening all, does anyone have a second to test something for me? |
| 08:16 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1545: SUCCESS in 2 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1545/ |
| 08:17 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10661: format mandatory item fields the same on all forms | |
| 08:17 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10808: make authority search form retain drop-down selections | |
| 08:17 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10808: (follow-up) reformat auth_finder.pl | |
| 08:17 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10605: fix encoding issue in basket email (OPAC) | |
| 08:17 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10605: fix encoding issue on basket email (INTRANET) | |
| 08:17 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 11032: Check a valid MARC::Record passed to Biblio | |
| 08:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10661 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Mandatory item fields should be formatted the same on all forms |
| 08:17 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10808 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Thesaurus search form does not correspond to current search query | |
| 08:17 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10605 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Problems with translated cart email sent | |
| 08:17 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Validate passed records in Biblio.pm | |
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| 08:40 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:42 | rangi | hi gaetan_B |
| 08:42 | gaetan_B | hi rangi |
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| 08:51 | mtj | evening all |
| 08:51 | rangi, did you get your thing tested? | |
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| 09:06 | rangi | nope |
| 09:06 | http://dashboard.koha-community.org/taskboard# | |
| 09:07 | if you load that, then tell me, then ill try to toggle the top left one, and it should change on yours too | |
| 09:20 | mtj | rangi, oops, back now... |
| 09:20 | cait | i clicked on something |
| 09:20 | was that bad? :) | |
| 09:21 | mtj | hokay, toggle away.. :) |
| 09:21 | * cait | clicked 10212 |
| 09:21 | mtj | top-left is 8428, for me |
| 09:21 | 8438* | |
| 09:22 | rangi | keep watching |
| 09:23 | it should toggle | |
| 09:23 | if that works, now i just need to get it working so you can switch it back off | |
| 09:26 | mtj | yep, worky worky :) |
| 09:27 | * mtj | just got back from the perlmonger's meet-up... |
| 09:27 | mtj | got there a bit late |
| 09:29 | * mtj | waves to gaetan_B and cait |
| 09:30 | mtj | rangi, toggling looks to be working well |
| 09:35 | rangi | cool, right going to sleep, ill do the toggle off tomorrow night |
| 09:36 | (they time out after a day) | |
| 09:38 | mtj | peace out |
| 09:49 | cait | and i have to help my dad with ebay... bbl |
| 09:59 | kivilahtio | has there been any discussion about Koha nd MariaDB? |
| 10:11 | mtj | kivilahtio, yes - and all positive, afaik :) |
| 10:12 | some people switched a while ago to maria, for koha development | |
| 10:13 | kivilahtio | mtj: We have some partners in Mikkeli, looking into Koha as well. They are MAriDB fans |
| 10:14 | mtj: So using MariaDB is a no-brainer in Koha, just install MariaDB and configure Koha tu use it as its datasource? | |
| 10:14 | mtj: backwards compatible and all | |
| 10:16 | mtj: ping ping! | |
| 10:19 | mtj | yeah, fwiw - i've been using it for production on a small low-use koha, with no problem |
| 10:19 | s | |
| 10:20 | kivilahtio | thanks, I'll forward your greetings to Mikkeli Archives :) |
| 10:20 | mtj | …for 12/18 months |
| 10:20 | kivilahtio | mtj: So why is MAriaDB better? |
| 10:20 | or is the preference strictly political? | |
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| 10:21 | cait | kivilahtio: you have to make sure to set some switch i think |
| 10:21 | mtj | both are valid |
| 10:21 | cait | so it can deal with our mysqlisms |
| 10:21 | one of the jenkins servers runs the tests on a mariadb | |
| 10:22 | look for a bug with mariadb in bugzilla - there has been some discussion on it | |
| 10:23 | kivilahtio | cait: thanks |
| 10:24 | cait | kivilahtio: seeing the bugs about the label printing - yes, there are lots of trnaslations issues there :( would be good to see those fixed |
| 10:24 | the oo programming style of those files always confusedme | |
| 10:25 | mtj | kivilahtio, i dont really know of any technical advantages of maria, over mysql |
| 10:26 | ..re: speed or stability | |
| 10:26 | kivilahtio | it seems to have a pretty cool monitoring suite |
| 10:28 | or is it the enterprise maria | |
| 10:28 | mtj | …but, most people realize that any project that depends on mysql, is not very well 'future proofed' :/ |
| 10:29 | so, better to start testing with maria now, rather than later | |
| 10:29 | kivilahtio | :) |
| 10:31 | I have a feeling that we are just going to take the shortest route to production. We have taken a long enough detour | |
| 10:36 | cait | I think the problem was that it's not sure how long major linux distributions will keep supporting mysql... so having mariadb as a quick replacement option is a good thing |
| 10:38 | kivilahtio | cait: I understand, we simply cant take up any more work |
| 10:38 | cait | yeah i think you don't have to immediately |
| 10:39 | we are running ours on mysql too | |
| 10:39 | kivilahtio | but I gotta go have some lunch, and swim before that! |
| 10:40 | we also have a lecture regarding copyrights in libraries | |
| 10:40 | take care! | |
| 10:46 | mtj | oooh, that sounds interesting ^^ |
| 10:56 | paxed | cait: it seems to be there are some other places where a text string comes from perl code, and i'm guessing those aren't translatable either. but i'm not going to report until i'm sure (seen it with my own eyes it actually shows up on the UI) |
| 10:56 | cait | paxed: i thnk nowadays it's mostly the label printing code |
| 10:56 | but there might be some hiding elsewhere | |
| 10:56 | lots got fixed | |
| 10:56 | and it's easier since the switch to TT than it was with HTP | |
| 10:56 | but yes, everything from the perl code is not translatable | |
| 10:56 | paxed | opac/oai.pl has some, seems like. |
| 10:59 | cait | yeah might be |
| 10:59 | rule of thumb: no translatable strings should ever be in perl or js files | |
| 11:06 | never be... | |
| 11:11 | paxed | that would be double negative. |
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| 11:21 | cait | ah |
| 11:21 | right... i better go :) | |
| 11:21 | hi drojf - bye drojf :) | |
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| 13:02 | francharb | good mornig koha |
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| 13:17 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 13:28 | tcohen | morning |
| 13:28 | hi gmcharlt, do u need me to work on your 11096 comments? | |
| 13:28 | (haven't had the time to fully read it) | |
| 13:38 | PabloAB | Hi all! |
| 13:38 | (Hi Tomás) | |
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| 13:39 | PabloAB | This one looks easy... but not for me. I want to connect biblio.frameworkcode to a MARC subfield, 942$f (for 'F'ramework) as suggested on http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]de-td5131463.html, to batch import of bib records setting one by default. |
| 13:40 | But there is a problem: This field is not an option on huge 900s select menu. | |
| 13:40 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 13:40 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is -3.7°C (8:40 AM EST on December 10, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
| 13:40 | PabloAB | Is there a simple solution... or should I touch source code/ sql update...? |
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| 13:52 | PabloAB | I add the subfield to default framework and now I can select it, but don't know why it doesn't apply the change. |
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| 14:04 | PabloAB | Sorry, PEBCAK situaton, but even "That will modify all frameworks which is usually what you need, but you have been warned." this doesn't seem to be true. |
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| 14:29 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 14:29 | @seen kf | |
| 14:29 | huginn | mtompset: kf was last seen in #koha 1 week, 5 days, 4 hours, 48 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <kf> katrinf looks not right somehow |
| 14:29 | mtompset | @seen cait |
| 14:29 | huginn | mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 8 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <cait> hi drojf - bye drojf :) |
| 14:29 | drojf | @seen mbalmer |
| 14:29 | huginn | drojf: mbalmer was last seen in #koha 1 year, 10 weeks, 4 days, 18 hours, 18 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <mbalmer> I see it a bit different, obviously. |
| 14:30 | oleonard | He awaits, unseen, for our inevitable decision to reject MySQL once and for all |
| 14:38 | drojf | oleonard: you may have missed the pg part in gmcharlts email ^^ |
| 14:38 | oleonard | Oh, did gmcharlt decide that we're removing mysql support? |
| 14:40 | * oleonard | is still catching up on a week and a half of unread email |
| 14:40 | francharb | good luck |
| 14:40 | ;) | |
| 14:41 | mtompset | oleonard: No, gmcharlt said that we should look into re-engaging with Pg support, given the inclusion of DBIx. |
| 14:41 | oleonard | That makes sense. But mbalmer didn't want Koha to be DB-agnostic, he wanted it to be Pg-only. |
| 14:42 | drojf | babysteps :P |
| 14:43 | mtompset | Ha ha, drojf. :P |
| 14:46 | tomas_ | hi mtompset |
| 14:46 | mtompset | Greetings, tomas_ -- tcohen. |
| 14:47 | Given gmcharlt's suggestion of multi-patch bug fixes, kf suggested I split my News by Branch patch. | |
| 14:48 | jcamins | oleonard: I was wondering what you thought of gmcharlt's proposal that we switch to Boostrap 3. |
| 14:48 | mtompset | Greetings, oleonard jcamins francharb. :) |
| 14:49 | oleonard | jcamins: gmcharlt sent me an email directly. Did he also send a proposal to the list? |
| 14:49 | francharb | 0/ mtompset |
| 14:49 | jcamins | oleonard: yep. |
| 14:51 | oleonard | jcamins & gmcharlt, the biggest caveat to upgrading Bootstrap is that it drops support for some older browsers--IE7 I think |
| 14:51 | drojf | OH NO! |
| 14:52 | oleonard | We haven't had a real discussion about whether that's acceptable. I think drojf is pretty concerned about it :P |
| 14:52 | I think it is acceptable, FWIW | |
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| 14:59 | druthb | o/ |
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| 15:05 | gmcharlt | oleonard: ick -- that's a problem |
| 15:06 | drojf | the future of bootstrap, or the paaast of internet explorer. tough choice. :P |
| 15:06 | kivilahtio | why are we even mentioning IE7, oh yeah our patrons come from all walks of life |
| 15:06 | gmcharlt | drojf: more that IE7 is not yet past ;) |
| 15:07 | drojf | IE7 has been past before it was born :D |
| 15:07 | nengard | just popping in ... is this something I should put in the manual |
| 15:07 | kivilahtio | :) |
| 15:07 | nengard | Bootstrap needs IE8+ |
| 15:07 | Or Firefox, Chrome, etc etc | |
| 15:07 | kivilahtio | nengard: good idea. You can write with big cat size letters that install Firefox |
| 15:07 | nengard | :) |
| 15:07 | kivilahtio | I wish i could do that |
| 15:07 | gmcharlt | oleonard: I suppose one question is how does lack of support mean for the user -- as it, would it not work at all, look a little bad, or look a lot bad for IE7 users |
| 15:08 | kivilahtio | I will totally sneak in a script which makes a popup alert for IE-users to upgrade to a REAL browser :) |
| 15:08 | oleonard | yeah I don't know the answer to that gmcharlt |
| 15:08 | kivilahtio | gmcharlt: I think this is a pretty good point |
| 15:08 | gmcharlt: I feel like lower service quality is totally acceptable for IE | |
| 15:09 | gmcharlt: We all would rather do some usefull stuff than work cross-browser issues | |
| 15:09 | gmcharlt | nengard: I think, but please correct me if I'm wrong, that the current version of Boostrap is compatible with IE7, it's the newever version that isn'st |
| 15:09 | drojf | if it is the current version... we have already solved the problem *hides* |
| 15:10 | gmcharlt | kivilahtio: I've got to push back on that a bit -- supporting patrons who for whatever reason are stuck with older browsers is not useful at all? I personally wouldn't go that far, at least for the public catalog |
| 15:10 | staff interface is different, of coruse | |
| 15:13 | kivilahtio | gmcharlt: well I mean we could let it slip a bit. Ofc basic functionality needs to work |
| 15:13 | gmcharlt: But if we get sharp corners or some visual artefacts, I wouldn't be too worried about those | |
| 15:13 | gmcharlt: on older IE-browsers | |
| 15:14 | gmcharlt | sharp corners? NOOOO! |
| 15:14 | :) | |
| 15:14 | yeah, I agree that it doesn't have to be pixel-perfect across all browsers | |
| 15:14 | kivilahtio | Jquery deals with most js issues for us anyway |
| 15:14 | * oleonard | had a buddy in 'nam who cut himself on a sharp corner in IE7 and bled out |
| 15:14 | kivilahtio | :D |
| 15:15 | gmcharlt | oleonard++ |
| 15:16 | kivilahtio | but this is for the core service. I already know what sales popup I am going to introduce to our users "Dear patrons, esteemed library users, we live to serve you but today we have a special request for you..." |
| 15:16 | oleonard | Were there objections to the Bengal Library Association request for listing as a support provider? |
| 15:17 | * oleonard | doesn't know how long it usually takes to get things on the site |
| 15:17 | kivilahtio | oleonard: Do we have some requirements for being listed as a support provider= |
| 15:17 | gmcharlt | kivilahtio: yes |
| 15:17 | oleonard: not to my knowledge | |
| 15:17 | oleonard | http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ow-to-get-listed/ |
| 15:18 | kivilahtio | quite a furnace to go through |
| 15:28 | ebegin | kivilahtio, you don't have to do it, but you won't be listed :) |
| 15:29 | kivilahtio | ebegin: I surrender |
| 15:30 | ebegin | brb |
| 15:31 | gmcharlt | tcohen: to answer your question, yes |
| 15:31 | tcohen | heh, i don't remember my words |
| 15:32 | heh | |
| 15:32 | sorry, different workstation | |
| 15:32 | irc logs? | |
| 15:32 | wahanui | irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 15:32 | tcohen | ok gmcharlt! |
| 15:32 | wahanui | gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology. |
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| 15:34 | kivilahtio | browser.js uses a minified jquery.cookie.js jquery.cookie.min.js |
| 15:34 | problematic | |
| 15:34 | wahanui | hmmm... problematic is being generous. |
| 15:35 | oleonard | browser.js? |
| 15:35 | kivilahtio | intranet-tmpl/js/browser.js |
| 15:35 | tcohen | gmcharlt: i'll try to understand the test cases |
| 15:36 | kivilahtio | oleonard: I am trying to catch all cookies the browser.js creates when a librarian makes a new search, because they overflow our apache http-request header |
| 15:36 | gmcharlt | tcohen: the basic idea is to add a MARCXML test record that would be larger than the ISO2709 limit, then in both GRS-1 and DOM modes, just try to retrieve it |
| 15:36 | kivilahtio | we talked yesterday with jcamins that I could keep only, say 10 searchCookie in browser memory to prevent this |
| 15:37 | oleonard: Looks like $.cookie() doesnt return all cookies like it should according to the api, now I realized Koha uses the minified version and am about to test if it is the culprit | |
| 15:37 | gmcharlt | kivilahtio: there is a failed QA patch to store search history in the session rather than in a cookie; if you want to work on improving the patch (mostly by adjusting unit tests related to it), that would be one approach |
| 15:37 | jcamins | gmcharlt: that's something else. |
| 15:37 | This is the client-side cursor. | |
| 15:37 | kivilahtio | gmcharlt: that patch is for the search histroy for the OPAC |
| 15:37 | yup | |
| 15:37 | gmcharlt | jcamins: kivilahtio: ah, thanks for clarifying |
| 15:38 | (and dang, here I was hoping to talk kivilahtio into look at that one!) ;) | |
| 15:38 | jcamins | kivilahtio: I don't see any reason you couldn't use the regular cookie API. The only reason I used jquery.cookie was that we already did. |
| 15:41 | kivilahtio | jcamins: there is a regular cookie api? |
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| 15:43 | kivilahtio | jcamins: What do you mean with regular cookie API, I understood jQuery core has cookie function? |
| 15:43 | jcamins: or jquery.cookie.js plugin against jquery.cookie.min.js? | |
| 15:45 | gmcharlt | @later tell rangi I bounced the dashboard; it had lost its MySQL connection |
| 15:45 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:45 | jcamins | kivilahtio: I mean non-jQuery. |
| 15:45 | I presume there is such a thing. | |
| 15:45 | kivilahtio | jcamins: ok, I saw some code and it looks non-crossbrowser compatible |
| 15:45 | javascript without jQuery makes me cry | |
| 15:45 | jcamins | And for the staff client we're requiring a modern browser, so we probably don't need IE shims, which I presume is the reason for jQuery. |
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| 16:01 | kivilahtio | jcamins: Handling cookies using native cookie tools is pretty awkward. Better way for application developer is to replace the jQuery plugin. |
| 16:01 | jcamins: Or do we have wrapper functions for native cookie handling somewhere around Koha? | |
| 16:02 | I guess I just have to replace jqueru.cookie.min.js with jquery.cookie.js through the Maketoolchain to make the transition? | |
| 16:04 | MakeMaker, phew, I guess its another thing to learn | |
| 16:05 | jcamins | kivilahtio: I think perhaps the solution would be to fix jQuery.cookie.js and submit the change upstream? |
| 16:05 | Why add complexity? | |
| 16:06 | kivilahtio | jcamins: problem is that currently we use jquery.cookie.min.js, when I need jquery.cookie.js (the full version) |
| 16:07 | jcamins: but my error actually is "TypeError: b is undefined" when calling $.cookie(); | |
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| 16:07 | jcamins | kivilahtio: jquery.cookie.min.js and jquery.cookie.js should behave identically. |
| 16:07 | .min means "minified." | |
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| 16:08 | kivilahtio | Ah sans documentation and whitespace |
| 16:08 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 16:08 | kivilahtio | hmm, maybe Koha uses a older version |
| 16:08 | jcamins | If you downloaded a new version and it worked, that means we're probably using an older, buggy version. |
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| 16:09 | kivilahtio | I wonder how do I fix that |
| 16:09 | oleonard | "we need to issue clearance certificates to the patrons whose batch is going to pass out" ?? |
| 16:10 | jcamins | kivilahtio: update to a newer version? |
| 16:10 | kivilahtio | jcamins: yes |
| 16:10 | I guess it needs to be done for hte Koha master | |
| 16:10 | or prolly it wont be me who makes the update :) | |
| 16:11 | drojf | oleonard: that was my reaction |
| 16:12 | kivilahtio | wow we are using v.1.4.0 where newest is 2.2 |
| 16:12 | oleonard | No wonder those cookies taste so bad |
| 16:12 | drojf | lol |
| 16:14 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:19 | kivilahtio | :) |
| 16:19 | IRL= | |
| 16:19 | IRL? | |
| 16:19 | wahanui | somebody said IRL was calling |
| 16:21 | kivilahtio | Ok oddly the jquery.cookie.js minification process broke the script-file, when ran using full minification, with normal minification I now have a working plugin-file. But the version from the official site is the same as we currently use. |
| 16:21 | barton | oleonard: "we need to issue clearance certificates to the patrons who are going to pass out". |
| 16:22 | oleonard | No fainting in the library without expressed permission of the administration |
| 16:42 | kivilahtio | So who is responsible for updating the jquery.cookis.js -plugin? Can I update it inside the git patch? or is there a more centralized way of doing these updates? The plugin needs to be updated, but it breaks the existing search"cursor"-functionality, until a patch can be applied |
| 16:43 | oleonard | If you want it to be updated you submit a patch which updates it |
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| 16:44 | kivilahtio | thanks! |
| 16:44 | mtompset | barton: oleonard: -- As I guessed last night, I think the person means expiring patron cards. |
| 16:44 | jcamins | And the second patch in your patchset should fix existing functionality. |
| 16:44 | kivilahtio | jcamins: ok, will do! |
| 16:46 | KohaCanuck | Hi all - I have what I think may be a common issue but I can't seem to fix it - I copied a Koha system over from a production environment to a test server and the catalog search returns no results found. I have rebuilt the indexes with rebuild_zebra.pl script to no avail - are there any logs or command line tools to help diagnose where the issue may be? |
| 16:47 | jcamins | KohaCanuck: dollars to donuts it's a permissions problem. |
| 16:47 | faq? | |
| 16:47 | wahanui | faq is, like, found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
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| 16:47 | jcamins | searching faq? |
| 16:47 | wahanui | searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 16:47 | jcamins | Huh. No direct link. |
| 16:47 | The last question has the troubleshooting steps. | |
| 16:48 | KohaCanuck | I've checked the faq and ran the zebra_rebuild.pl stuff but no errors and no fix - I'm guessing permissions too but cant seem to find info on quickly checking/setting these |
| 16:49 | jcamins | Okay, good, that's always the first stop. |
| 16:49 | You're using packages, right? | |
| 16:50 | KohaCanuck | yep - on debian |
| 16:50 | used the koha-dump/koha-restore to move the db | |
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| 16:50 | jcamins | When you used rebuild_zebra.pl it would have changed the owner to root or your current user. |
| 16:52 | `sudo chown -R koha_${yourinstancename}:koha_${yourinstancename} /var/lib/koha/${yourinstancename}` followed by `sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f ${yourinstancename}` and finally `sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common restart` | |
| 16:52 | Wait, no. | |
| 16:52 | ${yourinstancename}-koha | |
| 16:52 | Sorry, I always get that mixed up. | |
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| 16:55 | KohaCanuck | At one point I ran the rebuild as root but reverted back to the koha user - it originally had an issue with perms on the conf.xml file which I fixed not I get no errors and it counts the correct number of records during rebuild |
| 16:55 | jcamins | Yeah, the problem is that Zebra's not able to read your indexes. |
| 16:56 | Most likely. | |
| 16:56 | Not guaranteed, but that's what usually happens. | |
| 16:56 | KohaCanuck | where do they live typically? |
| 16:56 | jcamins | /var/lib/koha/${yourinstancename} |
| 16:56 | Those commands up there were for you. Sorry. Should have said that. | |
| 16:57 | KohaCanuck | I'll take a look some more and may be back shortly - many thanks :) |
| 17:06 | kivilahtio | wow, informative :) |
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| 18:19 | Nicole C. Engard: add z targets | |
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| 18:24 | Nicole C. Engard: add z targets | |
| 18:29 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11112: (follow-up) add FIXME <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0c272eadc287bb167> / Bug 11112: (follow-up) repair Koha::Calendar->add_holiday() <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a94227b854be5eeb9> / Bug 11112: Koha::Calendar needs some caching <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]mmitdiff;h=a98b23 |
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| 19:10 | tcohen | hi rangi |
| 19:13 | jcamins | Speaking from my experience as RM once, rangi is absolutely right. |
| 19:14 | tcohen | bye #koah |
| 19:14 | #koha | |
| 19:17 | rangi | morning |
| 19:18 | gmcharlt: thanks .. hmm yeah ive borked something there | |
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| 19:21 | * cait | waves |
| 19:21 | druthb | hi, cait! |
| 19:21 | cait | hi druthb :) |
| 19:22 | rangi | hi cait |
| 19:22 | cait | hi rangi :) |
| 19:24 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #263: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/263/ |
| 19:24 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11112: Koha::Calendar needs some caching | |
| 19:24 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11112: (follow-up) repair Koha::Calendar->add_holiday() | |
| 19:24 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11112: (follow-up) add FIXME | |
| 19:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11112 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Koha::Calendar->new loads all holidays |
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| 19:45 | rangi | http://dashboard.koha-community.org/taskboard# |
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| 19:46 | rangi | do you think i should make it so you can put a little name or something? ie who claimed it? |
| 19:47 | gmcharlt | rangi: separate from one's BZ login? |
| 19:47 | rangi | yeah |
| 19:47 | gmcharlt | and does a claim update anything in BZ, or are claims only known to the taskboard? |
| 19:48 | rangi | only known to the taskboard |
| 19:48 | (only known to a little sqlite db in the back :)) | |
| 19:48 | cos yeah, i didnt want to have to do logins | |
| 19:49 | cait | i think if you could add a quick note / nick it would be a nice feature |
| 19:49 | rangi | probably a way to get to the bug too :) |
| 19:49 | cait | ah no link yet? |
| 19:49 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 19:49 | cait | and hello :) |
| 19:49 | oleonard | Looks great rangi |
| 19:50 | How is it sorted? | |
| 19:50 | cait | yep it does :) |
| 19:50 | rangi | date |
| 19:50 | oldest first | |
| 19:51 | francharb | rangi++ |
| 19:52 | oleonard | I don't understand how it works though. What should happen when I click something? |
| 19:52 | francharb | rangi, I like your strategy. Once you claimed a BZ, one cant unclaimed it |
| 19:52 | perfect | |
| 19:52 | ;) | |
| 19:52 | rangi | it times out ;) |
| 19:52 | but yeah i need an unclaim too | |
| 19:53 | oleonard: basically it should be marked claimed, with the time you claimed it, which lets me/others know (the taskboard updates every 10 seconds) | |
| 19:53 | to pick another one to sign off | |
| 19:56 | i dunno if its even a good idea, but figured it would help me on GBSD type things | |
| 19:57 | i could make the link claim it, then open the bug in new tab | |
| 19:57 | would that be more useful? | |
| 19:57 | gmcharlt | rangi: GBSD and hackfests are the main uses I see for at the moment without deeper integration with BZ |
| 19:57 | rangi | *nod* |
| 19:59 | gaetan_B | bye!* |
| 20:00 | cait | rangi - sounds good to me |
| 20:00 | unclaiming would be good, when you see you don't know what to do with something | |
| 20:00 | like it requires something you don't know about | |
| 20:04 | rangi | yeah |
| 20:04 | ill work on that tonight, if i get time | |
| 20:06 | * cait | hopes she makes sense |
| 20:06 | cait | and also rangi++ |
| 20:09 | rangi | right, zeroed the taskboard for now |
| 20:09 | gonna spend 20 mins on the karma thing, and then back to work on elasticsearch | |
| 20:10 | oleonard | rangi++ |
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| 20:19 | bag | rangi: I forget did you say that the taskboard is repeatable for QA's and then one for the RM too? |
| 20:20 | but it's pretty cool - should be very helpful | |
| 20:20 | rangi | it will be, not yet |
| 20:21 | the qa one will be show who signed off, and who wrote patch | |
| 20:21 | so that you can see at a glance oh i can qa that | |
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| 20:29 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11009: (follow-up) tweak wording and remove potential log noise <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6194f02a9c27994fa> / Bug 11009: Do not display circulation history of anonymous patron <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f8e35d59e7b584f2b> |
| 20:30 | oleonard | Got IE7 up and running in a VM, and getboostrap.com looks horrible in it. They're not kidding when they say IE7 is not supported. |
| 20:30 | rangi | xp is EOL |
| 20:30 | in i think march | |
| 20:31 | rambutan | april |
| 20:31 | rangi | http://www.microsoft.com/en-us[…]endofsupport.aspx |
| 20:31 | i saw, if they arent gonna support IE7 | |
| 20:31 | we dont need to | |
| 20:31 | say even | |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea | i have to agree here |
| 20:32 | xp is EOL | |
| 20:33 | any changes we make to bootstrap won't be out before xp goes EOL - websites breaking is a good motivator for people to gtfo of XP | |
| 20:33 | oleonard | It actually looks fine in FF 3.6.x |
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| 20:34 | oleonard | Feel free to share your opinions in the email thread where I invite people to share their opinions ;) |
| 20:34 | gmcharlt | oleonard: modern IE with browser mode set to IE7 and documents mode set to IE7 standards looks aweful as well |
| 20:34 | er, | |
| 20:34 | awful | |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | awefully awful. |
| 20:34 | rangi | i feel like ive been sharing too many opinions lately :) ill let someone else do it |
| 20:35 | * wizzyrea | is actually more concerned with IE8 - but I think it said graceful degrade for that |
| 20:35 | oleonard | My library's web site also looks awful in IE7 but I haven't gotten any complaints about it |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | i'll have to look again. |
| 20:36 | ie7 is what, 9 years old? | |
| 20:36 | gmcharlt | 3.33% for November according to w3counter |
| 20:37 | * wizzyrea | whispers "give it the axe..." |
| 20:37 | gmcharlt | and FF 3 doesn't make the top 10 |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | i can't wait until xp is EOL and properly (mostly) gone. |
| 20:38 | gmcharlt | for windows, though, it was pretty reasonable |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | ssl will work nicely for named hosts, ie7 will be officially gone, ie8 in it's death throes |
| 20:38 | xp was ok back in the day. | |
| 20:38 | gmcharlt | yeah, SNI is a biggie |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | big improvement over 98 |
| 20:40 | oleonard | 82 visits to our site last month from IE7, out of 13,945 total. |
| 20:40 | We got twice as many from "Amazon Silk" :) | |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | O.o |
| 20:42 | gmcharlt | heh |
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| 20:42 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11112: Koha::Calendar needs some caching | |
| 20:42 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11112: (follow-up) repair Koha::Calendar->add_holiday() | |
| 20:42 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11112: (follow-up) add FIXME | |
| 20:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11112 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Koha::Calendar->new loads all holidays |
| 20:44 | oleonard | We got almost as many visits from this device as we did from IE7: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=s[…]0l_pantech_star_q |
| 20:45 | The list of mobile devices Google Analytics recorded for the past month is pretty mind-boggling | |
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| 21:00 | cait | that's still more than i woudl have expected |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | i personally feel it's irresponsible to support IE7 for passing any kind of personal data around. |
| 21:06 | jcamins | I guess the counter-argument is "but given that libraries aren't going to be a deciding factor in a person's computer use, do we really want to disenfranchise those who can't afford to upgrade their computer? |
| 21:06 | *" | |
| 21:06 | That said, I am at best indifferent to support IE7. | |
| 21:06 | *for | |
| 21:07 | I thought Boostrap 3 was dropping support for IE8, which I still see used. | |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | i counter that people who use IE7 already see an impossibly broken web. |
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| 21:08 | gmcharlt | jcamins: looks like IE8 is still supported provided that Respond.js (https://github.com/scottjehl/Respond) is used as well |
| 21:08 | rambutan | anybody have a good bs demo site up anywhere? I'd like to check some of the other browsers like Konqueror. |
| 21:09 | jcamins | gmcharlt: yeah, during the pre-3 ramp-up, they were saying it wouldn't be. |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | responsive.mykoha.co.nz |
| 21:11 | rambutan | looks fine in Konqueror 4.7.2, as I would expect really. |
| 21:12 | I'll see what happens with Tor tonight at home. | |
| 21:19 | eythian | hi |
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| 21:22 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11009: Do not display circulation history of anonymous patron | |
| 21:22 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11009: (follow-up) tweak wording and remove potential log noise | |
| 21:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11009 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Do not allow reading records of anonymous patron |
| 21:27 | rangi | i wonder if i should start up my streaming radio thingy again |
| 21:34 | rambutan | rangi listens to music that isn't classic rock. |
| 21:36 | rangi | it's true |
| 21:36 | wahanui | I saw it on Digg! |
| 21:36 | rangi | http://grooveshark.com/#!/ranginui/broadcast |
| 21:38 | eythian | http://youtu.be/PaEnaoydUUo <-- it's really just this on a loop |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | yay radio! |
| 21:40 | eythian | http://office.microsoft.com/en[…]-HA102919777.aspx <-- best advice ever |
| 21:41 | * cait | can't listen to grooveshark - not working from germany |
| 21:41 | cait | :( |
| 21:41 | eythian | GEMA hates you |
| 21:43 | cait | hmpf. |
| 21:43 | eythian | it's not personal, they hate everyone. |
| 21:44 | cait | probably |
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| 22:02 | francharb | I'm looking for a library that use book drops |
| 22:03 | During check ins, if the librarian check "dropbox mode" | |
| 22:03 | * wizzyrea | points towards most publics |
| 22:03 | francharb | isn't weird |
| 22:04 | that the dropbox feature use the current time to set up the return date | |
| 22:04 | I mean | |
| 22:04 | f I check now, the return date will be exactly now - 24h | |
| 22:05 | when the library was actually open... | |
| 22:05 | I'm not sure if mentionning the hours is relevent | |
| 22:05 | jcamins | francharb: I think there's a bug about making the library actually respect opening hours. |
| 22:06 | calendar, rather. | |
| 22:06 | wizzyrea | the idea of the dropbox is to favor the borrower who might have had a book go overdue, but the book was in the drop box when it went overdue |
| 22:07 | rangi | khall_away: http://paste.koha-community.org/26 |
| 22:07 | when you arent away :) | |
| 22:07 | this is patches in 3.14 | |
| 22:07 | top number is patches, number underneath is sign offs | |
| 22:08 | gmcharlt | rangi: as of when? |
| 22:08 | or rather, what range of commits? | |
| 22:08 | wizzyrea | It used to be that it was simply a date back - with time, I think it's a little more wobbly. |
| 22:08 | rangi | 3.12 .. 3.14 |
| 22:09 | francharb | wizzyrea, exactly |
| 22:09 | rangi | git log -p -M v3.12.00..v3.14.00 |
| 22:09 | francharb | :) |
| 22:09 | jcamins | wizzyrea: yeah, that timey wimey stuff... |
| 22:09 | francharb | but in the end, the patron in not penalized |
| 22:10 | wizzyrea | but - I'm not sure that the *time* matters so much? |
| 22:10 | francharb | so it's ok |
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| 22:10 | wizzyrea | yea, that's what I was about to say |
| 22:10 | I suppose it only matters if you REALLY care about the specific time it was returned, but if you're using the dropbox you're not going to know anyway | |
| 22:11 | unless you've got RFID in your dropbox, in which case you won't be using dropbox mode anyway | |
| 22:11 | francharb | I'm trying hard to figure out if it cound be useful for hourly loan |
| 22:11 | but I dont think so | |
| 22:12 | wizzyrea | well you can't do an hourly loan that takes you outside of library hours, right? |
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| 22:12 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: in theory such a loan could convert to overnight |
| 22:13 | or at least, that's within the bounds of library policies I've heard of | |
| 22:13 | francharb | wizzyrea, right |
| 22:13 | rangi | whoops mistake |
| 22:13 | wizzyrea | true, I'm not sure it does that |
| 22:13 | rangi | http://paste.koha-community.org/27 |
| 22:13 | jcamins | wizzyrea: you could have a 72 hour loan. |
| 22:13 | rangi | khall_away: http://paste.koha-community.org/27 is a better one |
| 22:13 | wizzyrea | why wouldn't you do it by days? |
| 22:14 | @quote get 123 | |
| 22:14 | wahanui | http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 22:14 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | top is sent, bottom is signed off? |
| 22:15 | rangi | thats right |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | cool |
| 22:15 | rangi | well top is patches included |
| 22:15 | sent might be more | |
| 22:15 | gmcharlt | authored |
| 22:15 | rangi | yeah |
| 22:15 | gmcharlt | or authored-and-pushed |
| 22:15 | rangi | authored and pushed |
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| 22:16 | wizzyrea | bottom is signed off and pushed |
| 22:16 | got it. | |
| 22:16 | rangi++ that's really interesting. | |
| 22:21 | eythian | http://tip4commit.com/ <-- we could encourage some commits :) |
| 22:21 | mtj | awesome stats, rangi++ |
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| 22:25 | francharb | have a good morning, day, afternoon, night! |
| 22:25 | bye | |
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| 22:26 | * cait | thnks someone should sign off her waiting patches... ;) |
| 22:27 | wizzyrea | <3 |
| 22:27 | gmcharlt | eythian: coding and financial speculation, in one package! ;) |
| 22:27 | eythian | gmcharlt: exactly :) |
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| 22:36 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #408 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:36 | Project Koha_Docs build #408: SUCCESS in 19 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/408/ | |
| 22:36 | Nicole C. Engard: update inventory | |
| 22:41 | mtompset | What is (unknown)? Everyone else? |
| 22:41 | rangi | yep |
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| 22:49 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1547: SUCCESS in 2 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1547/ |
| 22:49 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11009: Do not display circulation history of anonymous patron | |
| 22:49 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11009: (follow-up) tweak wording and remove potential log noise | |
| 22:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11009 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Do not allow reading records of anonymous patron |
| 22:50 | wizzyrea | wow that's weird. I have a record where the MARC is stored in japanese kanji(?) but the marcxml is all sorts of messedup. |
| 22:50 | htf does that even happen. | |
| 22:51 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #409 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:51 | Project Koha_Docs build #409: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/409/ | |
| 22:51 | Nicole C. Engard: update suggestions images | |
| 22:51 | bag | gremlins wizzyrea |
| 22:51 | wizzyrea | it seems to happen routinely on japanese and chinese records. |
| 22:51 | in this particular db. | |
| 22:51 | accented characters are stored correctly, but displayed incorrectly. | |
| 22:51 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: I WANT THAT RECORD |
| 22:51 | wizzyrea | yea? |
| 22:51 | gmcharlt | (oops) |
| 22:52 | :) | |
| 22:52 | cait1 | collector of weird marc records? :) |
| 22:52 | gmcharlt | cait1: indeed. maybe in 100 years they'll be worth somethign ;) |
| 22:52 | cait1 | :) |
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| 22:59 | cait1 | good night all! |
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| 23:54 | dcook | Do folks remember a bug where check in was debarring patrons even when items were returned on time? |
| 23:55 | I think it's related to finesdays/Suspend in Days and it's been fixed but I'm not noticing it in Bugzilla.. |
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