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00:07 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1536: SUCCESS in 2 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1536/ |
00:07 | Chris Cormack: Bug 11341: fix XSS bug in opac-search.pl (facets) | |
00:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11341 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , XSS attack vendor in facets in OPAC - prog theme |
00:20 | eythian | holy crap, returning a single item causes 148,140 calls into DateTime.pm |
00:21 | # spent 437ms (18.8+419) within DateTime::compare which was called 5968 times, avg 73µs/call: | |
00:22 | * wizzyrea | blinks |
00:22 | eythian | # spent 457ms (19.6+437) within DateTime::_compare_overload which was called 5965 times, avg 77µs/call: # 1182 times (3.64ms+85.5ms) by Set::Infinite::Basic::_simple_spaceship at line 202 of Set/Infinite/Basic.pm, avg 75µs/call |
00:22 | heh simple spaceship | |
00:23 | I think it's doing some sorting or something | |
00:23 | whereas you could probably shave that 0.5s off by pre-processing and sorting on ints. | |
00:23 | wizzyrea | some timey wimey stuff goin on there. |
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01:14 | dcook | dbs++ |
01:14 | Just trying out File_MARC for PHP | |
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01:16 | cait | wizzyrea: can you help me with something? :) I want to send a patch for bug 11228 |
01:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11228 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Explanation on 'patron notification' is not quite right |
01:18 | cait | hm, thinking about a correct english sentence to replace the exsting hint with |
01:20 | Select a notice to allow patrons to subscribe to email notifications about newly arrived issues in the OPAC. ? | |
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02:11 | dbs | dcook: hey, happy it works for you :) |
02:12 | dcook | dbs: Thanks for keeping it up :). We have a few scripts that use PHP instead of Perl, so it's nice to get ahold of a library that lends similar functionality. |
02:13 | I was getting to a point of writing up my own class for it but I figured there had to be a better way, and voila | |
02:13 | Still need to get PEAR installed on the actual servers and not just my computer though :p | |
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02:16 | dbs | Heh. I hear Composer is the new hotness, maybe I should add a composer.json file... |
02:18 | The only PEAR code it actually uses is PEAR::Exception, and that's just because that was a requirement of being a PEAR library. | |
02:19 | jcamins | dbs: you should leapfrog the new hotness, and use antmavengruntcomposer. |
02:20 | dbs | jcamins++ # you have to use gradle to build that, right? |
02:22 | jcamins | dbs: no, you use gradlegem. |
02:22 | Common point of confusion. | |
02:22 | * dbs | greps through yeobower to see if that's handled there |
02:24 | jcamins | XML-- |
02:25 | Who thought "I know, let's develop a format that is outrageously slow to parse"? | |
02:28 | dcook | The slowness is rather annoying :/ |
02:29 | jcamins | "Rather"? |
02:29 | eythian | I propose we make everything in Koha use ISO2709. |
02:30 | jcamins | eythian: actually, though slow, MARCXML isn't that bad. |
02:31 | Some of the cockamamie schemata used by others *cough*ERIC*cough*... | |
02:33 | dcook | dbs: Have you thought about using regex like MARC::Record for the "getFields" method? |
02:34 | Or maybe it is there and I'm doing something wrong.. | |
02:34 | 24. seems to get the 245 but 50. gets the 050 | |
02:34 | Mmm, there is regex there.. | |
02:35 | Ah, perhaps there is a flag I'm missing.. | |
02:35 | Drp | |
02:35 | Ok, nevermind me | |
02:35 | * dcook | is so not used to using the docs on PEAR yet... |
02:36 | jcamins | There's got to be a way to make parsing the ERIC data files faster. |
02:36 | dcook | Gin would probably make it "seem" like they're being parsed faster |
02:37 | jcamins | lol |
02:37 | dcook | It's after 5 there ;) |
02:37 | jcamins | Good call. |
02:38 | I've got a suspicion that there's some sort of semaphore in the library I'm using. | |
02:39 | 11m for 3835 records. | |
02:40 | eythian | that seems longer than just parsing |
02:40 | jcamins | eythian: oh, yeah, I'm loading and transforming them. |
02:40 | But loading and transforming records from JSON takes half that time. | |
02:40 | dcook | That's still pretty slow. |
02:40 | jcamins | Really slow. |
02:40 | dcook | 5-6 records per second? |
02:40 | dbs | dcook: I don't mind :) |
02:41 | eythian | I like perl -MDevel::NYTProf |
02:41 | it'll tell you where it's really taking time | |
02:41 | dcook | Intriguing.. |
02:41 | jcamins | Yeah, profiling would probably be a good idea. |
02:41 | * dcook | should do that with the OAI stuff at some point |
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03:01 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
03:01 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 23.0°C (3:30 PM NZDT on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
03:02 | eythian | I wouldn't say "clear" |
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03:26 | joels68 | 'sup, Koha people? |
03:46 | mtompset | eythian: How did you get those profiling numbers you were mentioning about 3 hours ago? |
03:46 | eythian | Devel::NYTProf |
03:48 | jcamins | Right... |
03:48 | the profile says that parsing the XML takes obscenely long, but still under ten seconds. | |
03:49 | mtompset | did you somehow get apache to call perl with a -d:NYTProf option? |
03:49 | Or was this just with some of the command line tools? | |
03:50 | eythian | mtompset: -MDevel::NYTProf and it spits out a file into cwd that you give to nytprofhtml |
03:50 | http://debian.koha-community.org/~robin/nytprof/ <-- mtompset, it does this | |
03:52 | * dcook | assumes red is bad |
03:53 | jcamins | Indeed. |
03:54 | brendan_ | looks green to me |
03:54 | :P | |
03:55 | dcook | Darned colour coding, eh? |
03:56 | brendan_ | heh |
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03:57 | mtompset | ARG. stupid network. |
03:58 | I was noticing that an optimization I put into GetHiddenItemNumbers (or something like that) isn't there. Which version is this profiled? | |
03:58 | Which version is this a profile of, eythian? | |
03:59 | eythian | I think 3.12 or so |
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04:09 | Oak | Ahoy #koha |
04:09 | Good night mtompset :) | |
04:10 | mtompset | Greetings, Oak. |
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04:16 | jcamins | Okay, looks like parsing XML takes two minutes during the full import. |
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04:52 | mtompset | Well, that's it. Have a great day #koha. |
05:16 | mtj | hey peeps, how do people feel about a 'reset forgotten password' feature, for Koha? |
05:17 | afaik, it's still a feature that Koha does not have, yeah? | |
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06:24 | rangi | if its done properly and securely seems fine to me |
06:25 | (with a one time token, to the email address on file) | |
06:25 | dcook | ^^ |
06:26 | I actually do this in PHP for some of our clients, so I'm all for Blou's work on this in Perl | |
06:27 | I just pretty much copied the functionality of what Twitter does for me everytime I forget my password :p | |
06:27 | rangi | and as long as its an option the library can turn on, with the understanding that it does come with some risk |
06:27 | dcook | Mhm |
06:27 | I wonder if it's an idea to restrict it by patron category | |
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06:28 | dcook | And maybe not allow it for library staff (although maybe that's just paranoid) |
06:28 | rangi | dcook: i think it would be prudent to not allow it for borrowers with elevated permissions (not categorycode that doesnt actually matter) |
06:28 | at least on the opac | |
06:28 | dcook | Mmm, good one |
06:28 | That makes way more sense | |
06:29 | I think it's a feature that a lot of libraries would probably appreciate | |
06:30 | So long as we're not storing their passwords in plain text and showing it in the browser when they "forget their password" (like some library systems), I'm sure it'll meet the needs of most libraries | |
06:30 | Wasn't drojf doing work to encrypt Koha emails as well? | |
06:30 | * dcook | says realizing that he hasn't seen drojf around in a really long time... |
06:31 | mtj | heya rangi, dcook |
06:31 | rangi | dcook: yep the code for that is all there |
06:31 | hes been trying to finish his thesis | |
06:32 | dcook | Mmm, that would do it |
06:32 | hey mtj | |
06:34 | Speaking of stressful writing, I should head off for the night | |
06:34 | Cheers, mtj, rangi, et al | |
06:42 | mtj | i'll have to ask dcook about his PHP feature, next time... |
06:42 | i'm curious how the one-time tokens are stored | |
06:48 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
06:48 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 22.0°C (7:30 PM NZDT on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
06:50 | rangi | mtj: this looks useful http://search.cpan.org/~fracta[…]/Session/Token.pm |
06:51 | create one, stick it a table + email address, then email it | |
06:51 | and probably a timestamp | |
06:52 | then compare the token to the one stored, and if its within the acceptable time (2 hours, 3 hours .. whatever we decide) | |
06:52 | they get the reset page | |
06:53 | * magnuse | waves |
06:53 | mtj | rangi, looks good :) |
06:54 | yeah, thats how i was imagining the table too | |
06:54 | magnuse, lookin' good too :p | |
06:55 | magnuse | aww shucks, hiya mtj |
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07:03 | magnuse | bonjour laurence |
07:03 | @wunder marseille | |
07:03 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is -3.2°C (8:03 AM CET on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
07:03 | magnuse | huh?!? |
07:03 | @wunder boo | |
07:03 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (7:50 AM CET on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 28.80 in 975 hPa (Rising). |
07:03 | laurence | hello magnuse |
07:03 | magnuse | muharharhar! |
07:03 | laurence | :) |
07:03 | magnuse | bet you don't have 20 cm of snow, though... |
07:04 | laurence | no |
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07:45 | reiveune | hello |
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07:56 | alex_a | bonjour |
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10:07 | * cait | waves |
10:15 | * magnuse | waves to cait |
10:18 | cait | :) |
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12:33 | tcohen | morning #koha |
12:50 | cait | hi tcohen :) |
12:51 | tcohen | hi cait |
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12:56 | francharb | good morning! |
13:02 | magnuse | hiya tcohen and francharb |
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13:02 | magnuse | bgkriegel++ for working on bug 7934, btw |
13:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7934 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , Separate po file for help pages |
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13:24 | magnuse | khall++ for working on bug 6254 |
13:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6254 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , can't set patron privacy by default |
13:24 | cait | bgkriegel++ |
13:24 | bug 11330 | |
13:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11330 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Inconsistent field/subfield descriptions on MARC21 bibliographic frameworks |
13:25 | khall | thanks magnuse! |
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13:38 | drojf | hi #koha |
13:41 | cait | hi drojf |
13:43 | barton | good morning, all. |
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13:51 | tcohen | bug 10908 |
13:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10908 blocker, P1 - high, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Fix broken auth_by_bind LDAP mode |
13:51 | tcohen | is it present in 3.12.x? |
13:57 | drojf | hi cait |
13:57 | how is the storm thing going? | |
13:58 | * drojf | goes to get something to eat |
13:59 | cait | storm thing? |
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14:16 | drojf | cait: no storm in southern germany? |
14:16 | cait | not yet |
14:16 | sun | |
14:17 | drojf | sun? so jealous. it's dark here already |
14:18 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #138 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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14:25 | tcohen | is fridolin around? |
14:25 | cait | haven't seen him on irc |
14:25 | tcohen | i've been pushing several stuff to 3.12.x |
14:25 | and marking as pushed to stable | |
14:25 | and then realised I should be following him instead | |
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14:34 | Modest | I am importing MARC records to Koha. The MARC records have some additional fields which are not in the default Koha template. For example, the Title field (245) has three subfields (811, 812, 813). I have tried to add the subfields, but after I click Save the subfield doesnt seem to be saved. If I proceed to import the MARC records, the three subfields are not imported. Any idea what is going wrong? |
14:34 | jcamins | Modest: when you say it has the subfields 811, 812, and 813, what do you mean? |
14:35 | Subfields are *part* of a field, and have one-character labels. | |
14:35 | cait | tcohen: i think gmcharlt was in contact with him |
14:35 | Modest | I am here: Home › Administration › MARC frameworks › BKS framework structure › Tag 245 Subfield structure |
14:35 | jcamins | Modest: right, I'm trying to understand what it is you're calling subfields. |
14:36 | cait | 811 wouldn't be a subfield |
14:36 | Modest | I then try to add three new subfields that have the code 811, 812,813 using the New tab |
14:36 | cait | yes, those are not subfields |
14:36 | subfields are 1 character | |
14:36 | those would be fields | |
14:36 | Modest | In my MARC record it says like this: =245 \\$813$ajūyonhiki no asagohan. |
14:36 | cait | $8 is the subfield |
14:36 | jcamins | That's subfield 8. |
14:36 | cait | 13 is the content |
14:36 | lol sorry jcamins | |
14:37 | jcamins | cait: no problem. |
14:37 | Modest | Ah, you mean the 8 is ignored and its 11, 12, 13. got it |
14:37 | jcamins | No, the subfield is 8. |
14:37 | The value of subfield 8 is 13 in that example. | |
14:38 | Modest | Bare with my slow brain a little. |
14:38 | jcamins | marc? |
14:38 | wahanui | http://marc-must-die.info |
14:38 | jcamins | marc? |
14:38 | wahanui | The MARC specs live at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ - abandon hope all ye who enter here. |
14:38 | cait | like $a and juyonhiki no asagohan is the value |
14:38 | jcamins | ^^ you might find that useful. |
14:38 | Modest | These are the three lines from the MARC I want to import: |
14:38 | jcamins | understanding marc? |
14:39 | Modest | =260 \\$811$a東京 :$b童心社,$c1983.7. |
14:39 | jcamins | wahanui: understanding marc is http://www.loc.gov/marc/umb/ and a horrifying thing to have to do. |
14:39 | wahanui | OK, jcamins. |
14:39 | Modest | =260 \\$812$aトウキョウ :$bドウシンシャ. |
14:39 | =260 \\$813$atōkyō :$bdōshinsha. | |
14:39 | Currently, only the first one (11) is imported | |
14:39 | How to get 12, 13 also imported? | |
14:40 | cait | @marc 260 |
14:40 | huginn | cait: Information relating to the publication, printing, distribution, issue, release, or production of a work. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8] |
14:40 | cait | why do you think it wasn't imported? |
14:41 | Modest | When I view the MARC record it doesnt have 12, 13 data |
14:41 | jcamins | Do you have an older version? |
14:41 | (of Koha) | |
14:41 | Modest | no, latest one |
14:42 | cait | can you give us the version number? |
14:42 | Modest | 3.14 |
14:43 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #138: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/138/ |
14:43 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11015: add copyright headers to some files | |
14:43 | * raewyn adams: Bug 11100: make label for Topics facet easily CSS selectable | |
14:43 | * Sue Tunnicliff: Bug 11107: make label for authors facet easily CSS selectable | |
14:43 | * Katherine Chisholm: Bug 11106: make label for Item types facet easily CSS selectable | |
14:43 | * Gab Hikaka: Bug 11102: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - places on facets not easily css selectable | |
14:43 | * Andrew Lockett: Bug 11098: fixed bug in label in opac - topics on facets not easily css selectable | |
14:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11015 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Copyright headers are missing in some packages |
14:43 | jenkins_koha | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11070: fix typo in UNIMARC 115a plugin |
14:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11100 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Label in staff client - Topics on facets not easily css selectable |
14:43 | jenkins_koha | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 11070: followup to correct tabs |
14:43 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 11058: fix compilation warning in C4::Record | |
14:43 | cait | there shoudl be no need to edit the frameworks |
14:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11107 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, sue.tunnicliff, Pushed to Stable , Label in staff client - authors on facets not easily accessible |
14:44 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11106 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Label item type facet in staff client | |
14:44 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11102 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Label in Staff Client - places on facets not easily css selectable | |
14:44 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11098 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrewlockettnz, Pushed to Stable , Label in Opac - topics on facets not easily css selectable | |
14:44 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11070 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , typo in UNIMARC 115a plugin | |
14:44 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11058 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Compile time warning issued by C4/Record.pm | |
14:45 | Modest | I think something is quite wrong with the import, because this line should go into 245 but actually went into 260 (a): |
14:45 | =245 \\$813$ajūyonhiki no asagohan. | |
14:47 | cait | the other lines you copied were saying 260 |
14:47 | Modest | yes they didnt go into 260 at all |
14:47 | some bits and pieces from the 245 lines went into both 245 and 260 | |
14:48 | e.g. 260 (a) is "jūyonhiki no as" in Koha. That has come from this line in the MARC, somehow: | |
14:48 | =245 \\$813$ajūyonhiki no asagohan. | |
14:49 | jcamins | It sounds like your problem is bad data. Can you try importing a different record that has both romanized and original script? |
14:49 | cait | paste? |
14:49 | wahanui | I eat paste! It's tasty! http://paste.koha-community.org |
14:49 | jcamins | Also, how are you importing the record? |
14:50 | Modest | I import with this: Home › Tools › Stage MARC records for import |
14:51 | jcamins | Okay. |
14:52 | Modest | I imported 4 records that way but they all have the same problem |
14:52 | tcohen | jcamins: do we index field 400 for authorities? |
14:53 | jcamins | tcohen: yes, as see-from. |
14:53 | tcohen | a search on the authorities form should get those results? |
14:54 | jcamins | I think only keyword. |
14:54 | Modest | This is the original Marc record by the way: http://wine.wul.waseda.ac.jp:2[…]19X/9662465/1/1/1 |
14:55 | jcamins | @marc 245 |
14:55 | huginn | jcamins: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8] |
14:56 | jcamins | That's not a valid MARC record. |
14:56 | 245 is not repeatable. | |
14:56 | Well... it's not valid MARC21. | |
14:56 | I'm sure it's valid something. | |
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14:57 | Modest | Ideally I want to import all three, its not possible to configure? |
14:58 | jcamins | You'd probably need to define a new MARC flavor. |
14:58 | Modest | sounds hardcore |
14:59 | jcamins | Yeah, Koha doesn't have built-in support for JAPAN/MARC (http://www.ndl.go.jp/jp/library/data_make.html ... maybe). |
14:59 | Modest | If difficult I can accept to just import only one of the three titles, however that also seems to be broken as I explained above where text from the 245 line was imported to 260 in koha. |
15:00 | jcamins | Could you please share the MARCXML for your record in paste.koha-community.org? |
15:03 | pastebot | "Modest" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "MARCXML" (56 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/17 |
15:03 | jcamins | Oddly that record doesn't match what I think I'm seeing in the JAPAN/MARC manual. |
15:04 | Sorry, I meant the pre-Koha MARCXML. | |
15:04 | Modest | it looks like the japanese text has been changed the htmlentities |
15:04 | jcamins | Since I don't read Japanese, that's okay. ;) |
15:05 | I'm just comparing the field layouts. | |
15:06 | Modest | This data comes from Waseda Uni which seems to be the only one offering z39.50 lookup. There is another uni but they dont seem to offer ISBN lookup so its not usable for us. So I dont have an alternate data source which might use a better format. |
15:07 | jcamins | Right, I mean I need the MARCXML from Waseda. |
15:07 | form xml | |
15:07 | Modest | ok i will try to find it now |
15:07 | jcamins | Actually, how are you searching for it over Z39.50? |
15:07 | Modest | http://wine.wul.waseda.ac.jp/s[…]34004627&1%2C1%2C |
15:08 | I got the data with MarcEdit client | |
15:08 | jcamins | Using what search? |
15:08 | Modest | z39.50 to waseda |
15:09 | jcamins | Right, but you must have done a search to find the record. Remember, I can't read Japanese at all so I need to be told "enter this text in this box." |
15:09 | Modest | I searched for the ISBN: 4834004627 |
15:10 | jcamins | Okay. Thanks. |
15:10 | Modest | the URL above should take you directly the MARC record online at waseda opac |
15:10 | jcamins | It did, but I need to see the actual record, not their rendering of it. |
15:11 | Modest | I dont know how I can get the actual record. I got mine via MarcEdit and z39.50 |
15:12 | I can give the connectino details for the z39.50 at waseda if it helps | |
15:13 | jcamins | I have them. |
15:13 | These records don't match at all. | |
15:13 | Modest | which records dont match? |
15:13 | jcamins | The record that you shared and the record I get from Waseda. |
15:14 | They are entirely different works. | |
15:14 | Modest | ok maybe my bad, let me check again |
15:14 | jcamins | I think that's the problem. Koha is correctly importing the data, but MarcEdit is giving it something else. |
15:14 | Modest | http://wine.wul.waseda.ac.jp/s[…]igarg=i4834004627 |
15:15 | jcamins | Yeah, the record you pasted imported correctly. |
15:15 | Modest | Sorry, I used the wrong ISBN number. It should be 449400619X |
15:15 | jcamins | I mean, it's still not valid MARC21, but all the data was imported. |
15:15 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #139 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
15:15 | Modest | Ok, well that is a start! |
15:16 | So I just need to find a way to import the MARC records using another client? | |
15:16 | jcamins | I'd just use Koha's built in Z39.50 copy cataloging. |
15:16 | Modest | One we have scanned the barcodes, we will have 3000 records to fetch the MARC records for. |
15:16 | Well, I tried using Kohas z39.50 but it didnt work so started looking at other clients. | |
15:17 | jcamins | There's probably a way to get MarcEdit to give you the records you want, too. |
15:17 | Not using MarcEdit, I can't advise you on that, though. | |
15:18 | Modest | The Marc record displays the Japanese incorrectly in koha z39.50 lookup |
15:18 | jcamins | And I should probably point out that since the records aren't valid MARC21, they're probably not going to display the way you might wish. |
15:18 | gmcharlt was just talking about Japanese encoding over Z39.50. He might know how to set the encoding to work. | |
15:19 | Modest | Ive contacted MarcEdit author today about it. I also posted about the Koha z39.50 issues on the mailing list but no response yet. |
15:19 | jcamins | Modest: looks like gmcharlt responded asking for more information. |
15:19 | gmcharlt | Modest: I think we emailed yesterday? to reiterate what I said, I'm working on a patch for MARC::Charset that will resolve it, at least for the character involved in that example |
15:19 | it will be available later today | |
15:20 | Modest | Yes I was in touch off list with gmcharlt |
15:20 | Ok great, hopefully that will work then. It would be ideal to just use koha instead of marcedit. | |
15:20 | gmcharlt | yep, that will be doable |
15:21 | Modest | all fingers and toes and eyes are crossed. |
15:22 | Thanks all for your help and hopefully I wont have to bug you anymore. | |
15:24 | druthb | @quote random |
15:24 | huginn | druthb: Quote #266: "<pianohacker> dpkg is a wonderful thing once you coax it out from within its grumpy shell" (added by druthb at 07:49 PM, June 28, 2013) |
15:33 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11077: Correct more warnings in C4/Auth.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]20fff5e2e39e10803> / Bug 11077: remove uninitialized value $pki_field warning <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bc8287fdcbd0dd3c5> | |
15:34 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #251 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED) |
15:38 | Starting build #1537 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
15:38 | * cait | waves |
15:38 | druthb | o/ |
15:39 | drojf | druthb! |
15:39 | cait! | |
15:39 | druthb | drojf! |
15:39 | @wunder 77098 | |
15:39 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in WEST UNIVERSITY, HOUSTON, Texas is 24.4°C (9:39 AM CST on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
15:39 | druthb | @wunder berlin |
15:39 | huginn | druthb: Error: No such location could be found. |
15:39 | druthb | :-O |
15:39 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
15:39 | cait | drojf! druthb! |
15:39 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 4.3°C (4:12 PM CET on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Falling). |
15:40 | druthb | brr. We're gonna be down that cold by the weekend, they're sayin'. |
15:40 | francharb | @wunder montreal, quebec |
15:40 | huginn | francharb: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 1.0°C (10:15 AM EST on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
15:40 | drojf | i wonder if i should leave already. don't know how long that storm thing is supposed to last |
15:40 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
15:40 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.3°C (4:40 PM CET on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Falling). |
15:40 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
15:40 | druthb | brr! |
15:40 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 11.9°C (10:25 AM EST on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Steady). Dense fog advisory in effect until noon EST today... |
15:40 | cait | drojf: seems the storm is only in north germany :( just watched the news,that looks bad |
15:40 | druthb | @wunder mcmurdo |
15:40 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in McMurdo, Antarctica is -1.0°C (4:00 AM NZDT on December 06, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.01 in 982 hPa (Rising). |
15:40 | drojf | cait: it sounds very windy here now |
15:41 | druthb | hrm. |
15:41 | cait | go home |
15:41 | druthb | @wunder fargo, nd |
15:41 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Fargo, North Dakota is -18.0°C (8:53 AM CST on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -22.0°C. Windchill: -30.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until noon CST Saturday... |
15:41 | druthb | yep. Big time col. |
15:41 | cold, even | |
15:41 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #139: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/139/ |
15:41 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11003: fix JS error on the staff cart page | |
15:41 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11002: simplify patron mandatory field validation | |
15:41 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11002: (follow-up) use jQuery validator plugin | |
15:41 | * Jonet Moore: Bug 11099: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - series on facets not easily css selectable | |
15:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11003 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , JS error on the cart page |
15:41 | jenkins_koha | * Frédéric Demians: Bug 10982: fix link to IFLA UNIMARC documentation in Cataloging |
15:41 | * Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 10785: change 'Dropbox' labels to 'Book drop' | |
15:41 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10785: (follow-up) fix one last bit of capitalization | |
15:41 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10954: ensure that payment receipt displays the payment made | |
15:41 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11097 - Hide duplicate patron button if logged in user lacks CAN_user_borrowers permission | |
15:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11002 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Mandatory fields are not translatable |
15:41 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11099 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonetem, Pushed to Stable , Label in Staff Client - series on facets not easily css selectable | |
15:41 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10889: fix comment describing biblioitems.serial |
15:41 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 11034: remove incorrect return for BiblioAutoLink | |
15:41 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9192: let UNIMARC_sync_date_created_with_marc_biblio.pl create fields if needed | |
15:41 | * Martin Renvoize: Bug 10829: fix browsing across pages breaks for OPAC bibs-linked-to-authority searches | |
15:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10982 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , Link to IFLA UNIMARC documentation in Cataloging |
15:41 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10785 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Stable , dropbox should be book drop | |
15:41 | * druthb | thinks. |
15:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10954 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Payment receipt does not display the payment made |
15:41 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11097 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Hide duplicate patron button if logged in user lacks CAN_user_borrowers permission | |
15:41 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10889 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , wrong description for a column of biblio table in kohastructure.sql | |
15:41 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11034 trivial, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , BiblioAutoLink has incorrect return in addbiblio.pl | |
15:41 | druthb | @wunder amarillo, TX |
15:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9192 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , UNIMARC_sync_date_created_with_marc_biblio.pl field creation |
15:41 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10829 trivial, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Stable , Browse across pages breaks for authority searches | |
15:41 | druthb: The current temperature in Oliver-Eakle, Amarillo, Texas is -8.4°C (9:41 AM CST on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 9 am CST Friday... | |
15:41 | druthb | yikes! |
15:42 | drojf | oh, the heating is working again. that's not bad ^^ |
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15:46 | druthb | Wonder how far the cold front has gotten... |
15:46 | @wunder lubbock, TX | |
15:46 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in WT_Meso Lubbock 3W, Lubbock, Texas is -6.7°C (8:55 AM CST on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Light Freezing Rain. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 am CST Friday... |
15:46 | druthb | @wunder abilene, TX |
15:46 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in ABI 5mi. true N, Abilene, Texas is -2.1°C (9:46 AM CST on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Warning in effect from noon today to noon CST Friday... |
15:47 | druthb | @wunder austin, tx |
15:47 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Waller Beach, Austin, Texas is 6.7°C (9:36 AM CST on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from midnight tonight to noon CST Friday... |
15:47 | druthb | @wunder fredericksburg, tx |
15:47 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Stehling Hill US 87 North, Fredericksburg, Texas is 1.1°C (9:47 AM CST on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from midnight tonight to noon CST Friday... |
15:47 | druthb | @wunder san antonio, tx |
15:47 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in HornLofts, San Antonio, Texas is 10.4°C (9:47 AM CST on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
15:47 | druthb | mhm |
15:47 | @wunder corsicana, tx | |
15:47 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Carol Ave, Corsicana, Texas is 2.7°C (9:44 AM CST on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 6 am to 6 PM CST Friday... |
15:47 | druthb | @wunder huntsville, tx |
15:47 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in RAWS HUNTSVILLE TX US, Huntsville, Texas is 8.3°C (9:06 AM CST on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
15:48 | * druthb | reaches for her parka. |
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16:03 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11104: Wraps series label in a span for CSS selectability. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a8586f2ac15757f4e> / Bug 11111: (follow-up) fix column sorting on parcels page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4e60e91506cc0b231> / Bug 11111: UT: SearchOrders returns keys basketgroupid and basketgroupname <http://git.k |
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16:13 | reiveune | bye |
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16:23 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11101: add CSS selector to item types facet label in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3835e9ed1db02bed7> / Bug 11091: (follow-up) perltidy on serials/subscription-bib-search.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6eda0b2d0b455ab36> / Bug 11091: revamp search limit options for new subscription bib search form < |
16:24 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #251: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/251/ |
16:24 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11077: remove uninitialized value $pki_field warning | |
16:24 | * Srdjan: Bug 11077: Correct more warnings in C4/Auth.pm | |
16:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11077 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Correct silent warnings in C4/Auth.pm |
16:24 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #252 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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16:44 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2310: display tooltips explaining why patron menu items are disabled <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fddfccb1087b4dbce> |
16:45 | cait | 2!310 |
16:45 | that's an old one | |
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17:14 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11111: display the basket group name on the parcel page | |
17:15 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11111: UT: SearchOrders returns keys basketgroupid and basketgroupname | |
17:15 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11111: (follow-up) fix column sorting on parcels page | |
17:15 | * Tim Hannah: Bug 11104: Wraps series label in a span for CSS selectability. | |
17:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11111 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The basket group is not displayed on the parcel page |
17:15 | jenkins_koha | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11091: revamp search limit options for new subscription bib search form |
17:15 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11091: (follow-up) perltidy on serials/subscription-bib-search.pl | |
17:15 | * Claire Stent: Bug 11101: add CSS selector to item types facet label in OPAC | |
17:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11104 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, timdhannah, Pushed to Master , Label in opac topics in facets not easily css selectable |
17:15 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11091 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , limits in catalog search when creating subscription | |
17:15 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11101 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, claire.stent, Pushed to Master , Item Type label in OPAC not easily css selectable. | |
17:15 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #253 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
17:36 | Project Koha_master build #1537: SUCCESS in 2 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1537/ | |
17:36 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11077: remove uninitialized value $pki_field warning | |
17:36 | * Srdjan: Bug 11077: Correct more warnings in C4/Auth.pm | |
17:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11077 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Correct silent warnings in C4/Auth.pm |
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17:51 | Nicole C. Engard: clear up the patron registration section | |
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18:04 | * Nicole C. Engard: clear up the patron registration section | |
18:04 | * Nicole C. Engard: update patron self registration further | |
18:04 | Project master_maria build #253: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/253/ | |
18:04 | Owen Leonard: Bug 2310: display tooltips explaining why patron menu items are disabled | |
18:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2310 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Delete grayed out w/out explanation |
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18:06 | Nicole C. Engard: update patron self registration further | |
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18:07 | tcohen | @later tell eythian will adding a suggested dependency make an upgrade of koha-common get hold? |
18:07 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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18:21 | * Nicole C. Engard: update self registration verbiage | |
18:21 | * Nicole C. Engard: fix wording | |
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18:34 | * Nicole C. Engard: update self registration verbiage | |
18:34 | * Nicole C. Engard: fix wording | |
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18:49 | Project Koha_3.12.x build #140: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/140/ | |
18:49 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 3934 - move test prediction pattern button | |
18:49 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11108: fix duplicate display of basket whose receipt has just been cancelled | |
18:49 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10750: Correct capitalization on suggestion form in OPAC | |
18:49 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10271: regression test for search using indexes containing 'ns' | |
18:49 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10271: fix searching using an index containing "ns" or "nb" | |
18:49 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10271: (follow-up) correct tabs | |
18:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3934 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , move test prediction pattern button |
18:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11108 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , undoing receiving does not appear to work (but actually does) | |
18:49 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 11086: Fixing some grammatical mistakes in member-flags and tools-home |
18:49 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 11086: (follow-up) editing the database files also | |
18:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10750 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Correct capitalization on suggestion form in OPAC |
18:49 | jenkins_koha | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10243: prevent holds queue from making transfer requests that contradict library holds policy |
18:49 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10243: (follow-up) add unit tests | |
18:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10271 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , An index containing ns or nb does not work |
18:49 | jenkins_koha | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10243: (follow-up) prevent TransportCostMatrix from overriding library holds policy |
18:49 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10283: Hide "many items" on second tab when using OpacSeparateHoldings | |
18:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11086 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Koha Tools Upload Patron Images text description change |
18:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10243 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Holds queue is making transfer requests that contradict the branch holds policy | |
18:49 | jenkins_koha | * David Cook: Bug 10974: make OAI-PMH resumption tokens handle time correctly |
18:49 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10445: make SIP Server respect maxoutstanding system preference | |
18:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10283 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Hide "many items" on second tab when using OpacSeparateHoldings |
18:49 | jenkins_koha | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10445: (follow-up) fix error |
18:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10974 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , OAI-PMH Resumption Tokens Do Not Handle Time |
18:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10445 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , SIP Server doesn't respect maxoutstanding system preference | |
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18:56 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2546: DBRev 3.15.00.003 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4dd227b40c88302c9> / Bug 2546: make description of standard fine types translatable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0c88ec03adf65e3c7> |
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19:22 | edveal | Any XSLT experts around right now? |
19:23 | I am trying to get the control number (001) field to show in the staff normal view. Any thoughts or suggestions? | |
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19:24 | * Liz Rea: Bug 10776: fix awkward wording in subscription notification screen | |
19:24 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9218: fix intranet cart email for non english templates | |
19:24 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9374: Only 0.00 prices must have class error in basket.tt | |
19:24 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9374: The color should manage all zero format. | |
19:24 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 9374: (follow-up) add FIXME suggesting that use of a regexp is not the long-term solution | |
19:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10776 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Subscription notification screen has awkward wording |
19:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9218 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , intranet cart email broken for non english templates | |
19:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9374 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , In baskets, prices between 0 and 1 are displayed in red | |
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19:35 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11111: display the basket group name on the parcel page | |
19:35 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11111: UT: SearchOrders returns keys basketgroupid and basketgroupname | |
19:35 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11111: (follow-up) fix column sorting on parcels page | |
19:35 | * Tim Hannah: Bug 11104: Wraps series label in a span for CSS selectability. | |
19:35 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11091: revamp search limit options for new subscription bib search form | |
19:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11111 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The basket group is not displayed on the parcel page |
19:35 | jenkins_koha | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11091: (follow-up) perltidy on serials/subscription-bib-search.pl |
19:35 | * Claire Stent: Bug 11101: add CSS selector to item types facet label in OPAC | |
19:35 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 2310: display tooltips explaining why patron menu items are disabled | |
19:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11104 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, timdhannah, Pushed to Master , Label in opac topics in facets not easily css selectable |
19:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11091 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , limits in catalog search when creating subscription | |
19:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11101 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, claire.stent, Pushed to Master , Item Type label in OPAC not easily css selectable. | |
19:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2310 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Delete grayed out w/out explanation | |
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19:38 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 2546: make description of standard fine types translatable | |
19:38 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 2546: DBRev 3.15.00.003 | |
19:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2546 major, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Description of charges: string hardcoded |
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19:43 | rangi | morning |
19:44 | @later tell tcohen there were a litle flurry of xss issues recently, im sure you will have noticed, but they all are applicable to 3.12, 3.10 and 3.8 too | |
19:44 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
19:45 | cait | good morning rangi :) |
19:54 | mtompset | Greetings, rangi, cait. |
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19:59 | cait | hi mtompset |
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20:06 | Nicole C. Engard: add new serials info | |
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20:21 | Nicole C. Engard: reorganized serials info | |
20:22 | * wizzyrea | waves |
20:22 | wizzyrea | and yes, cait I could help you with that. |
20:22 | cait | oh hello wizzyrea :) |
20:22 | can oyu help me phrase a nice hint? | |
20:23 | wizzyrea | sure |
20:23 | that one has been bothering me for a while actually | |
20:25 | cait | yep me too |
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20:25 | cait | trying to catch up a bit with those annoying little things i have on my list this vacation |
20:25 | good morning kathryn :) | |
20:25 | kathryn | morning everyone |
20:25 | doh! | |
20:25 | cait | :P |
20:25 | kathryn | cait I was trying to beat you! |
20:25 | cait | you failed :) |
20:25 | kathryn | well, race you :) |
20:25 | cait | hehe maybe monday :) |
20:25 | i am slow on mondays | |
20:26 | kathryn | noted :) |
20:27 | wizzyrea | Selecting a notice will send email to (patrons, borrowers) who have requested notification of new issues |
20:27 | or something. | |
20:27 | wahanui | it has been said that something is sketchy |
20:27 | wizzyrea | pft. |
20:27 | cait | hm i was thinking maybe we could say subscribed in opac |
20:27 | so people know how patrons can request | |
20:28 | wizzyrea | really we ought to add the ability to add borrowers to the staff client |
20:28 | cait | Selecting a notice will send out an email to patrons who have subscribed to notifications of new issues |
20:28 | true | |
20:28 | wizzyrea | ...add borrowers to the subscription notify lists |
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20:28 | wizzyrea | and a way to view them |
20:28 | cait | but a bit out of the scope of my bug :) |
20:28 | wizzyrea | hm that might actually exist. |
20:28 | well yes. | |
20:28 | cait | ah you can view |
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20:29 | Jonathan Druart: Bug 11265: ensure current locale is selected when editing a subscription | |
20:29 | cait | there is a subsscribers link on the subscription detail page |
20:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11265 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Problems with locale saving/editing on serial subscriptions |
20:29 | wizzyrea | right yea |
20:29 | cait | lots ofpushing tonight :) |
20:29 | gmcharlt++ tcohen++ | |
20:29 | would the sentence I wrote above work? | |
20:31 | joels68 | Everyone would enjoy lots of pushing tonight:P |
20:31 | wizzyrea | yep, I think so |
20:31 | joels68 | Hi cait |
20:31 | * wizzyrea | waffles a bit about "send out an email" because it's very wordy, but it's probably fine and just a matter of my minimalist taste. |
20:32 | wizzyrea | (so don't change it, yours is fine) |
20:32 | I'm the one who really loves William Carlos Williams because of the way he says so much in so few words | |
20:33 | cait | don't know him :) |
20:33 | wizzyrea | http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/22828 |
20:33 | cait | german is very wordy |
20:33 | so english always seems shorter to me :) | |
20:34 | wizzyrea | well and entire sentences in one word. |
20:34 | ^.^ | |
20:34 | german is cool like that | |
20:34 | http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/15535 | |
20:35 | ^ probably a better example | |
20:35 | cait | :) |
20:36 | francharb | Hey all |
20:36 | cait | hi francharb |
20:36 | francharb | hi cait |
20:36 | * cait | thinks we should order pizza as it's friday |
20:37 | francharb | not yet in canada |
20:37 | cait | well neither it's here... |
20:37 | but we could still have pizza :) | |
20:37 | francharb | i just realised it |
20:37 | sure | |
20:37 | its always pizza time somewhere | |
20:38 | hey cait, have you ever experienced trouble with issueslips printing? | |
20:38 | wizzyrea | what kind of trouble? |
20:38 | francharb | in html format, if we put <br/> at the end of the notice |
20:38 | they are not printed | |
20:39 | wel, you cant see the space where brs are | |
20:39 | wizzyrea | not shown, or just not printed? |
20:39 | * cait | is confused too |
20:39 | francharb | it seems they are not printed |
20:40 | wizzyrea | I suspect the printer would just dump off those. |
20:40 | dump those off* | |
20:40 | cait | francharb: you could try using a div and a margin bottom |
20:40 | i think i have done it like that | |
20:40 | francharb | yep |
20:40 | wizzyrea | what's the problem you're trying to solve? Receipts that hug the bottom too close? |
20:40 | cait | but i got no feedback form the libraries yet |
20:40 | francharb | thats what I was about to tell |
20:40 | or maybe try a &nsbp; | |
20:40 | cait | we just switched to 3.12 and i configured some standard slips for most of them |
20:40 | francharb | wizzyrea, exactly |
20:41 | wizzyrea | right, in firefox, you can set the margins |
20:41 | francharb | wizzyrea, with the slipcss syspref, right? |
20:42 | wizzyrea | no, in firefox itself |
20:42 | cait | francharb: you could add the css directly with a style="" too |
20:42 | francharb | right! |
20:42 | cait | but trying out liz' idea sounds good |
20:42 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "margins in firefox" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/19 |
20:43 | wizzyrea | you probably want something besides 0, it's in CSS order so just put some px in for the bottom 0 |
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20:45 | francharb | great! |
20:45 | thank you wizzyrea! | |
20:45 | thanks cait! | |
20:48 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "also, you may be able to get at them from about:config, if you can't find the margin settings" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/20 |
20:48 | wizzyrea | (I'm on linux, it's a bit different on mine) |
20:50 | rambutan | @wunder 64507 |
20:50 | huginn | rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -7.2°C (2:50 PM CST on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Falling). |
20:50 | * cait | waves at joels68 |
20:50 | cait | sorry missed your hi earlier! |
20:51 | rambutan | -7.2 C, that's like -59.8 F |
20:52 | joels68 | @wunder 56187 |
20:52 | huginn | joels68: The current temperature in Worthington, Minnesota is -16.0°C (2:35 PM CST on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -21.0°C. Windchill: -28.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa. Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 6 PM CST Friday... |
20:54 | joels68 | Thor's blowin' in some cold winds this weekend. -14 F or -25 C. |
20:55 | Cold.... | |
20:57 | wizzyrea | that is righteously cold. |
20:57 | rambutan | wow, that's downright cold |
20:57 | cait | -25! |
20:57 | @wunder Konstanz | |
20:57 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.1°C (9:55 PM CET on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
21:02 | joels68 | 4 C? That's thong weather compared to MN.:-[ |
21:03 | cait | heh |
21:04 | it's quite windy! | |
21:05 | wizzyrea: Selecting a notice will allow patrons to subsribe to notifications of new issues. | |
21:05 | (as you can't subscribe when no notice is selected at all) | |
21:06 | or.... to notifications when a new issue is received. | |
21:08 | wizzyrea | Selecting a notice will allow patrons to subscribe to notifications to notifications when a new issue is received |
21:08 | yea, I think that seems right. | |
21:09 | cait | Selecting a notice will allow patrons to subscribe to notifications when a new issue is received |
21:09 | well it will be more right than before :) | |
21:10 | bug 11228 | |
21:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11228 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Explanation on 'patron notification' is not quite right |
21:13 | cait | @later tell drojf - could you please take a look at bug 11260? |
21:13 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
21:24 | nengard | is opacsmallimage unused in bootstrap? |
21:24 | seems that way to my tests | |
21:24 | and i want to update the manual | |
21:26 | wizzyrea | it's in the template. |
21:27 | oh but it's commented out | |
21:27 | I wonder if that's intentional. | |
21:28 | jcamins | I'd guess so, because the required specifications have changed. In order to customize the logo at the top corner, you would use CSS to change the background of #logo. |
21:28 | wizzyrea | that seems like a bug. |
21:28 | (if it's not intentional, I mean) | |
21:29 | uncommenting it has unpleasant effects on the theme. | |
21:29 | put it on the list of things to deprecate when the other themes are removed I guess. | |
21:29 | jcamins | Yeah, that's my guess. |
21:30 | wizzyrea | so nengard, the answer is: it is deprecated in the bootstrap theme, but still in use for the other themes. |
21:31 | nengard | up |
21:31 | yup | |
21:31 | thanks!! | |
21:31 | I'll word it that way | |
21:33 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt - too soon to make a bug for deprecating the prog and ccsr themes? Maybe just to keep track of known things that will need to be done? |
21:34 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: planning_for_the_future++ |
21:34 | IOW, go for it | |
21:34 | wizzyrea | cool |
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21:35 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 2546: make description of standard fine types translatable | |
21:35 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 2546: DBRev 3.15.00.003 | |
21:35 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11265: ensure current locale is selected when editing a subscription | |
21:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2546 major, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Description of charges: string hardcoded |
21:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11265 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Problems with locale saving/editing on serial subscriptions | |
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21:36 | Nicole C. Engard: update opacsmallimage to note it's not in bootstrap | |
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21:38 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt - the proposal from the list is kind of the public announcement of intent, yeah? |
21:38 | gmcharlt | yes, you can use that language |
21:38 | wizzyrea | cool |
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21:42 | peggy | Good afternoon! |
21:43 | wizzyrea | hi peggy :) |
21:43 | nengard | hi peggy |
21:44 | peggy | I have just set up a sandbox to do some testing, but the patrons can't put anything on hold. It says they have too many items on hold, but they don't have any |
21:44 | cait | hi peggy |
21:44 | peggy | I remember this when we set up our real system too. |
21:44 | nengard | the circ rules probably say 0 holds |
21:44 | cait | peggy: try adding a circulation rule |
21:44 | for all libraries all itemtypes all categories | |
21:45 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "gmcharlt - ok?" (28 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/21 |
21:45 | wizzyrea | yep you probably need an All-All-All default rule |
21:45 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: yes |
21:46 | wizzyrea | cool ty |
21:49 | bug 11346 | |
21:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11346 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Deprecate the PROG and CCSR themes |
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21:50 | wizzyrea | (and the also relevant 11347) |
21:52 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea++ |
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21:52 | peggy | Thanks all! That works fine. |
21:53 | wizzyrea | yay! |
21:58 | francharb | cait, still around here? |
21:58 | cait | yep |
21:58 | francharb | :) |
21:58 | do you have a library that use hourly loan? | |
21:59 | cait | no |
21:59 | francharb | :) |
21:59 | ok thanks | |
21:59 | cait | and glad :) |
21:59 | francharb | ahah |
21:59 | cait | but sorry to be of no help there |
21:59 | francharb | no worries |
21:59 | any way, i think it a feature | |
22:00 | related question | |
22:00 | ;) | |
22:00 | one of our library print issue slips for hourly loan | |
22:01 | but the date due printed doesent give the hour | |
22:01 | cait | hm |
22:01 | francharb | but the info is in the database |
22:01 | cait | i thought it used to - have you checked bugzilla? |
22:01 | francharb | so I guess the hour is stripped somewhere |
22:01 | nope, I will | |
22:01 | thanks! | |
22:02 | cait, isn't is kind of late in germany? | |
22:02 | cait | a bit 11 |
22:02 | francharb | not that late |
22:02 | but still | |
22:02 | cait | yeah it's not too bad :) |
22:02 | francharb | are you still working? |
22:02 | cait | no work tomorrow - i get to say up as late as i want :) |
22:03 | francharb | hehe |
22:04 | cait, you were right | |
22:04 | cait | hm? |
22:04 | francharb | there is already something in bugzilla |
22:04 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9725 | |
22:04 | huginn | 04Bug 9725: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add support to notices for hourly loans |
22:04 | cait | ah, but is that for the issue slips? |
22:05 | francharb | it says "component : notices" |
22:05 | so I guess, it's also for issue slips | |
22:05 | ebegin, ^ | |
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22:10 | cait | maybe bug 9014 |
22:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9014 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Add time due to slips |
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23:15 | dcook | I must say that I'm digging the Australian-style licorice |
23:17 | cait | hm? |
23:18 | dcook | Well, it's very different from North American licorice. |
23:18 | Perhaps closest to...nibbs? | |
23:18 | * dcook | tries to remember if nibbs is a word.. |
23:19 | dcook | Nibs |
23:20 | jcamins | Yup. |
23:23 | dcook | They're Australian style is longer than Nibs (but shorter than twizzlers), and very soft and full of flavour |
23:23 | I don't know if I could eat another twizzler | |
23:25 | wizzyrea | twizzlers are gross. |
23:25 | have you had RJ's licorice? | |
23:25 | cait | mmh yum |
23:25 | wizzyrea | idk if they sell it in oz |
23:25 | dcook | RJ's? Doesn't sound familiar |
23:26 | wizzyrea | anyway, if you see RJ's licorice with chocolate inside - buy it. :) |
23:26 | dcook | O_O |
23:26 | That sounds amazing | |
23:26 | * dcook | just finished eating his chocolate |
23:26 | jcamins | Mmmm. Chocolate. |
23:26 | dcook | All I have are phone accessories and kleenex in my bag. Neither looks edible... |
23:26 | bag | ears perk up at hearing bag :P |
23:26 | dcook | hehe |
23:27 | Care to comment on candy preferences? | |
23:27 | * dcook | still can't refer to all candy as lollies |
23:27 | dcook | I guess it's my refusing to assimilate |
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23:36 | * wizzyrea | will happily refer to lollies |
23:36 | wizzyrea | and rubbish |
23:38 | * cait | closes really old bugs |
23:38 | cait | wegot over 900open bugs (without counting enh) |
23:38 | dcook | cait++ |
23:39 | Rubbish is a pretty good term | |
23:39 | Lollies just doesn't make sense to me... | |
23:40 | wizzyrea | the one I can't get |
23:40 | is biscuits for cookies | |
23:41 | i can pretty happily call fries chips. | |
23:41 | and ketchup, tomato sauce | |
23:41 | but biscuits are not cookies. | |
23:41 | * jcamins | can't call ketchup tomato sauce. |
23:42 | wizzyrea | unless it's a very specific kind of cookie. |
23:42 | cait | youall are really confusing this non native speaker:) |
23:42 | wizzyrea | sorry cait |
23:42 | dcook | sorry cait |
23:42 | * dcook | agrees about the biscuit thing though |
23:43 | dcook | jcamins: If it helps, I've been told (unreliably) that ketchup has more sugar than tomato sauce |
23:43 | Some places in Sydney will say ketchup and fries. | |
23:43 | jcamins | dcook: that is very true. |
23:43 | dcook | Mind you, they might just be saying that to sound more North American... |
23:43 | jcamins | Tomato sauce shouldn't have more than a few tablespoons. |
23:43 | dcook | Aussies have a weird relationship with America. |
23:43 | wizzyrea | tomato sauce in nz is not at all like either ketchup or tomato sauce that you get in the states. |
23:44 | tomato sauce = tomato puree | |
23:44 | ^ in the states | |
23:44 | ^ in NZ | |
23:44 | dcook | I don't know if I've seen tomato puree...tomato paste? |
23:44 | Sorry cait | |
23:44 | wizzyrea | nope, that's pasty. |
23:44 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I don't think that tomato sauce means the same thing to you as to me. |
23:44 | dcook | ;) |
23:45 | jcamins | Tomato puree is a thing in my world, and tomato sauce is very different. |
23:45 | rambutan | All those things are clearly labeled in the store. |
23:45 | * wizzyrea | thinks of the stuff that comes out of the can, and is slightly more runny than tomato paste |
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23:45 | wizzyrea | "tomato sauce" in the states. |
23:45 | jcamins | wizzyrea: that's tomato puree. |
23:45 | wizzyrea | that's tomato puree here too. |
23:46 | in kansas, that's tomato sauce. | |
23:46 | (that's what it says on the can) | |
23:46 | ingredients: tomato puree. | |
23:46 | wahanui | tomato puree is probably a thing in jcamins's world, and tomato sauce is very different. |
23:46 | * dcook | hopes the NSA is watching this |
23:46 | jcamins | Really? |
23:46 | Weird. | |
23:46 | wizzyrea | yep |
23:47 | http://static.caloriecount.abo[…]to-sauce-7504.jpg | |
23:48 | cait | wizzyrea: how long till beer o'clock? :) |
23:48 | wizzyrea | too long. |
23:48 | dcook | Mmm beer o'clock |
23:48 | I so need a beer today | |
23:48 | rambutan | http://tinyurl.com/mryfuyk |
23:49 | wizzyrea | http://nzstore.biz/146-thickbo[…]-tomato-sauce.jpg < nz tomato sauce |
23:49 | rambutan | http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p[…]38815_500X500.jpg |
23:49 | wizzyrea | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XU9x[…]tchup_preview.jpg < ketchup |
23:50 | rambutan | http://www.doma-italian-market[…]uree_TO-89017.gif |
23:50 | wizzyrea | yup rambutan feels me |
23:50 | laurence left #koha | |
23:50 | dcook | http://ecx.images-amazon.com/i[…]_SL500_AA280_.jpg |
23:50 | jcamins | wizzyrea: that's so weird. |
23:51 | rambutan | http://www.delmonte.com/media/[…]uct_photo_365.png |
23:51 | wizzyrea | hehehhe |
23:51 | or the difference between chopped, and diced tomatoes | |
23:52 | * dcook | thinks chopped refers to large chunks? |
23:52 | wizzyrea | you know it's bad when you can spend more than 5 minutes just looking for the kind of tomato in a can you want. |
23:52 | rambutan | http://files.doobybrain.com/wp[…]tles-compared.jpg |
23:52 | * dcook | just always gets tomato paste |
23:52 | dcook | Actually, I guess we do get...canned tomatos... |
23:52 | jcamins | wizzyrea: never seen diced potatoes in a can. |
23:52 | dcook | ^^ |
23:52 | rambutan | http://www.abetterbagofgroceri[…]iced-tomatoes.jpg |
23:53 | jcamins | Huh. |
23:53 | And now I have. | |
23:53 | dcook | huh |
23:53 | ditto | |
23:53 | You're crazy fast with those links, rambutan ;) | |
23:53 | cait | jcamins: dito |
23:54 | rambutan | http://www.ruggierosmarket.com[…]/products/282.gif |
23:54 | cait | oh tomatos yes, but not potatos |
23:54 | rambutan | last one. should all be clear now |
23:54 | * jcamins | meant tomatoes. |
23:54 | cait | hm 916 bugs |
23:54 | jcamins | Sorry, watching Chopped. |
23:54 | rambutan | chopped bugs? |
23:55 | * wizzyrea | has seen diced potatos in a can |
23:55 | dcook | hehe |
23:55 | wizzyrea | (in kansas) |
23:55 | rambutan | most certainly |
23:55 | jcamins | I've always avoided seeing potatoes in cans. |
23:55 | * dcook | had frog's legs once when he was a kid in Saskatchewan |
23:55 | wizzyrea | potatoes, I guess. |
23:55 | cait | dcook: heh, i had them in marseille :) |
23:55 | dcook | I have no idea why we had frog's legs in a tiny remote rural village, but.. |
23:55 | cait: Oh yeah? Did you like them? | |
23:56 | wizzyrea | I had those in Kansas a few times. Stringy. |
23:56 | cait | like chicken |
23:56 | rambutan | http://www.delmonte.com/media/[…]uct_photo_417.png |
23:56 | dcook | I recall them being just like chicken too |
23:56 | wizzyrea | oh you'll love this one |
23:56 | dcook | ebegin should host a kohacon so that folks can have poutine ;) |
23:56 | jcamins | wizzyrea: e is optional. |
23:57 | wizzyrea | in nz - you can get chips at a chippie, but you can't get chippies at a chippie. |
23:57 | dcook | O_o |
23:57 | What are chippies? | |
23:57 | wizzyrea | you get chippies at the dairy. |
23:57 | potato chips | |
23:57 | dcook | Mmm |
23:57 | And you get them at the dairy? | |
23:57 | * wizzyrea | thanks kathryn for that first week lesson (from last year) |
23:58 | wizzyrea | yes. |
23:58 | you get them at the dairy. | |
23:58 | kathryn | hehe |
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