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| 01:32 | eythian | wahanui: status |
| 01:32 | wahanui | Since Wed Nov 20 21:29:42 2013, there have been 324 modifications and 78 questions. I have been awake for 13 days, 4 hours, 3 minutes, 3 seconds this session, and currently reference 34434 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode. |
| 01:33 | eythian | anyone know anything about doing bulk patron imports and populating patron attributes at the same time? |
| 01:33 | wizzyrea | you mean through the interface |
| 01:33 | ? | |
| 01:35 | eythian | yeah |
| 01:35 | wizzyrea | I believe it is documented |
| 01:35 | dcook | Sounds familiar but I'm not sure that's possible in the older Koha that I use |
| 01:36 | wizzyrea | Tip: If loading patron attributes, the 'patron_attributes' field should contain a comma-separated list of attribute types and values. |
| 01:36 | ^ is in the online help | |
| 01:36 | eythian | yeah, just found it in the manual |
| 01:36 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 01:36 | eythian | documentation eh. Who'da though. |
| 01:36 | dcook | hehe |
| 01:36 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 01:37 | eythian | patron_attributes isn't documented on the actual page, which is a bit silly. |
| 01:37 | wizzyrea | yea, it is. |
| 01:37 | actually it's a bit silly how it's documented period. | |
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| 01:39 | wizzyrea | truly, users do not know to check the online help. |
| 01:39 | it's actually really helpful! | |
| 01:39 | well sometimes not. but usually. | |
| 01:40 | eythian | Next question: how do I tell libreoffice to prefix every cell in a column with a fixed string? |
| 01:40 | jcamins | Ugh. |
| 01:40 | My e-mail filter stopped working. | |
| 01:41 | wizzyrea | http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2506 |
| 01:41 | curses. | |
| 01:42 | eythian | oh hey, it's jcamins's favourite! |
| 01:43 | jcamins | His e-mail address changed. |
| 01:43 | And he's too important to use a last name. | |
| 01:48 | eythian | Like Madonna |
| 01:50 | rangi | yeah im not sure that he even gets a say |
| 01:50 | jcamins | rangi: he volunteered to RMaint 3.6.x. If he does that, he gets a say. |
| 01:51 | eythian | he hasn't actually done more than volunteer though |
| 01:51 | jcamins | eythian: right, he gets a say when he RMaints for 3.6.x. |
| 01:53 | eythian | This borrower data uses the "title" field for both "Dr" and "Do no lend." |
| 01:53 | I'm not totally sure how to resolve this. | |
| 01:54 | jcamins | eythian: don't allow doctors to borrow books. |
| 01:54 | rangi | http://paste.koha-community.org/14 |
| 01:54 | ok ? | |
| 01:54 | before i hit send | |
| 01:55 | eythian | I think so |
| 01:55 | jcamins | Sounds fine to me. |
| 01:55 | eythian | It's only about the 15th time he's weighed in while confused. |
| 01:55 | rangi | yeah |
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| 01:59 | rangi | chris_n++ |
| 02:00 | ill leave it | |
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| 02:05 | * eythian | contatenats "title" with the notes field, and also inserts it as "title." I'll let the library sort it out. |
| 02:14 | eythian | oh hey, the unique ID field has duplicates. |
| 02:14 | dcook | confetti |
| 02:14 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 02:15 | jcamins | more confetti |
| 02:15 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' |
| 02:15 | jcamins | even more confetti |
| 02:16 | eythian: sorry, you only get two servings of confetti. | |
| 02:21 | eythian | :< |
| 02:25 | Oh hey, there's an old uni friend in this borrowers database (and his data is being problematic.) | |
| 02:26 | jcamins | eythian: perfect. Charge him a fine. |
| 02:26 | eythian | I should! |
| 02:26 | jcamins | "I was migrating your data, and ran into problems with it, so I am fining you one gourmet beer." |
| 02:27 | eythian | I feel this is quite acceptable. |
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| 03:22 | jcamins | Pffft. |
| 03:23 | * jcamins | just saw the kohadevreactions gif. |
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| 03:23 | jcamins | Well, the e-mail it was about. |
| 03:25 | I'm all for next generation library systems, that's arguably what Biblionarrator is, but... really? | |
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| 03:42 | Dyrcona | jcamins: got a link to the gif? |
| 03:43 | * Dyrcona | suspects he knows what it is about. |
| 03:43 | mtj | http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]image/68930259566 |
| 03:43 | http://list.evergreen-ils.org/[…]ember/000636.html | |
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| 03:43 | mtj | just reading it now... |
| 03:44 | Dyrcona | Thanks. I did find the image with Google. Should have just looked first. |
| 03:44 | Yeah, I know all about the email. | |
| 03:45 | mtj | …pretty bizarre stuff, considering the terms 'last gen' and 'next gen' are absolutely meaningless O_o |
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| 04:04 | dcook | hehe |
| 04:04 | I love looking at Kohadevreactions after a while | |
| 04:04 | It never fails to amuse | |
| 04:05 | Dyrcona | I like the on about "you don't pay me." I tell Evergreen folks that all the time. |
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| 04:21 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 04:22 | Question: what might cause duplicate report listings in the guided reports? | |
| 04:32 | dcook | Different report numbers and same name? |
| 04:32 | Off the top of my head, pressing "Save" twice when originally saving the repor | |
| 04:32 | report* | |
| 04:32 | But that's just a guess | |
| 04:41 | mtompset | duplicate authorized values, I think. :) |
| 04:52 | okay... deleted duplicate ids... how do I check for data consistency? | |
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| 05:35 | mtompset | woo hoo! I think I'm in the clear. |
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| 05:58 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
| 06:10 | paxed | catalogue/advsearch.tt: <option value="l-format:fk" >Braille</option> |
| 06:10 | according to _what_ format?! | |
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| 06:50 | * magnuse | gives an early wave |
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| 07:47 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:18 | magnuse | huh, is there something seriously wrong with my browser, or is the "add serial" screen behaving weirdly in master? |
| 08:23 | ah, might be because i did not install nb-NO after the upgrade... | |
| 08:29 | ok, so every time i start writing something into a form in the intranet, focus jumps to "search the catalog" or at least one of the search fields at the top of the page... anyone else seen that? | |
| 08:33 | restarted browser and still the same thing happens | |
| 08:36 | only happens using translations, not when english is chosen | |
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| 08:40 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:40 | wahanui | niihau, gaetan_B |
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| 09:09 | ashimema | morning all |
| 09:09 | cait, you about? | |
| 09:09 | cait | kind of :) |
| 09:09 | morning :) | |
| 09:10 | ashimema | Am I OK to QA bug 10944 (the amazon images over https one) |
| 09:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10944 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , Mixed content warnings in results and detail with Amazon images on https |
| 09:10 | ashimema | I think your issues are just ssl seetup problems unrelated to the bug itself.. (and bootstrap?) |
| 09:10 | cait | yep |
| 09:10 | bit embarassed i missed bootstrap | |
| 09:10 | but what was also weird was that i had the images in staff over https when it was http? | |
| 09:10 | ashimema | haha no worries, it caught me out for a while too |
| 09:11 | yeah, Liz has explained that in a comment.. | |
| 09:11 | Robin chose to set https for imaages in staff at all times.. it doesn't do any harm. | |
| 09:11 | there's no using_https template param to latch onto in staff client from the looks.. | |
| 09:12 | so I was thinking that was ok? | |
| 09:12 | cait | ah ok |
| 09:12 | haven't caught up with mails yet | |
| 09:12 | ashimema | unless yo can think of a regression thats somehow brought in by using https in the staff client? |
| 09:12 | cait | i am ok with that |
| 09:12 | i am only worried a bit about com vs. de | |
| 09:12 | if anything | |
| 09:12 | ashimema | I'll be trying to work through that as part of my qa.. |
| 09:12 | cait | still wondering if itwill give the same results hm. |
| 09:13 | ashimema | likewise for .co.uk and the other locales. |
| 09:13 | cait | it should not be too hard to test, but i have not very good data (not many covers) |
| 09:13 | yeah but i imagine the english speaking ones to be a bit more similar | |
| 09:13 | but it might be all one data pool anyway | |
| 09:13 | ashimema | good point |
| 09:15 | * cait | thinks the easiestwould be to kill the amazon cover feature... :P |
| 09:19 | cait | ok, i guess i won't get far with that suggestion, but what you wrote sounds good |
| 09:28 | ashimema | I think images always came form amazon.com without localisation looking at the code cait.. so it doesn't look like a regression to me? |
| 09:28 | cait | ah good, then i am all ok with it |
| 09:30 | ashimema | Still going through code.. but it certainly appears that way so far. |
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| 09:32 | pablito | hi all |
| 09:33 | after cleaning my MARC data to import into Koha, I now can't see the Call Number for my books in Koha | |
| 09:34 | cait | pablito: where did you put the callnumber? |
| 09:34 | pablito | i used the 952$o subfield for the call number |
| 09:35 | the call number shows under "Full Call Number", but not under "Call Number" of the OPAC search | |
| 09:35 | cait | pablito: but the items got generated? |
| 09:35 | pablito | yes |
| 09:35 | I can send you my koha mapping | |
| 09:35 | what's the paste url? | |
| 09:35 | cait | hm where is full call number? |
| 09:37 | i can think of different things | |
| 09:37 | so the callnumber shows in cataloguing but not in the opac? | |
| 09:37 | pablito | yes |
| 09:37 | in cataloging only | |
| 09:37 | cait | result and detail page? |
| 09:38 | pablito | yes |
| 09:38 | cait | that is weird. |
| 09:38 | can you see the other item data in opac? | |
| 09:39 | is only the callnumber missing or is the item not showing up at all on the detail page? | |
| 09:39 | pablito | In OPAC, the books show up |
| 09:39 | under the holding table, it doesn't show the call number | |
| 09:40 | though it shows the holding library, barcode, and availability | |
| 09:40 | cait | interesting. |
| 09:40 | wahanui | i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 09:40 | cait | you didn't do any jquery customizations i guess? |
| 09:41 | does it not show up in staff too? | |
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| 09:42 | pablito | sorry, lost wifi signal |
| 09:43 | pastebot | "pablito" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "my marc mapping" (60 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/15 |
| 09:47 | cait | it looks ok to me for the items |
| 09:47 | how are your items formatted? | |
| 09:47 | it should be only one 952 for each item | |
| 09:47 | not multiple 952 | |
| 09:48 | pablito | even when I tried to do the itemcallnumber mapping in system preferences to 852hi, it still would not show |
| 09:50 | cait | 852$h$i won't work in Koha i nthink |
| 09:50 | 952$o is alright | |
| 09:50 | I can't see why it would show up in cataloguing | |
| 09:50 | could you try something? | |
| 09:50 | add an item manually | |
| 09:50 | and see if that shows up like it should in your opac | |
| 09:52 | pablito | ok, let's put this issue aside, i have another issue with another koha server |
| 09:53 | if you don't mind :-) | |
| 09:54 | I loaded the same MARC data to another server, call it PROD SERVER, and I can't even search for anything; there is no results, even though on the import, I can see thousands of records | |
| 09:54 | i think it's a misconfiguration issue | |
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| 09:58 | pablito | ok |
| 10:00 | cait | maybe it's just your zebra server not running? |
| 10:00 | pablito | you mean for my 2nd issue with the PROD SERVER? |
| 10:01 | how would i start the zebra server? | |
| 10:01 | cait | yes, if you can't search it's more likely a zebra than an import problem |
| 10:01 | like the new records not being indexed | |
| 10:01 | zebra server not running | |
| 10:01 | cronjob not activated to update the index periodically | |
| 10:01 | things like that | |
| 10:02 | ashimema++ | |
| 10:03 | ashimema | ? |
| 10:05 | pablito | actually, I ran the "top" program and saw " zebrasrv" running |
| 10:17 | cait: i have to go, thanks again for your help | |
| 10:18 | magnuse | search faq? |
| 10:18 | wahanui | search faq is http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
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| 10:37 | * cait | waves |
| 10:37 | * ashimema | rejoices |
| 10:41 | cait | :) |
| 10:41 | magnuse | can budgets in acq be used for keeping track of spendings on serials? |
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| 11:11 | cait | magnuse: yes, since 3.12 |
| 11:12 | before it was not really liked well together | |
| 11:14 | magnuse | cool |
| 11:14 | cait | look for order from subscriptoin |
| 11:14 | magnuse | i did some exploration and found something that seemed to work |
| 11:14 | yeah, found that :-) | |
| 11:14 | i'm always a bit overwhelmed by acq, though... | |
| 11:21 | * cait | sends cookies |
| 11:21 | cait | understandable :) |
| 11:27 | paxed | what does the "Popularity" search result sorting depend on, number of loans for that title? or the stars given to it? or what? |
| 11:30 | magnuse | paxed: i think it should be number of loans, but not sure how well it works |
| 11:33 | paxed | ah. thanks. |
| 11:35 | if i've found half a dozen typos, do i file separate bug for each? | |
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| 12:03 | cait | hi khall |
| 12:03 | :) | |
| 12:03 | khall | mornin cait! |
| 12:06 | mornin #koha! | |
| 12:06 | FYI, bug 6427 is ready for testing! | |
| 12:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Rewrite of the accounts system |
| 12:06 | khall | I've tested it on a sandbox, so you can test there as well |
| 12:08 | magnuse | paxed: maybe group them by "module"/functionality, if possible? |
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| 12:10 | cait | paxed: number of loans - you can calculate it directly or via cronjob (smaller performance hit) - look in your sysprfs |
| 12:12 | khall: updae scripts done? :) | |
| 12:12 | khall: one thought i had while reading the commit message was that migrations might be a bit harder with 3 tables instead of 1 | |
| 12:12 | khall | cait: Yes, but it'll need some testing! |
| 12:13 | cait | but we will figure it out |
| 12:13 | or even 4 tables i think | |
| 12:13 | khall | cait: yes, they will be "a bit" harder. The key is, for migrations you can just ignore account_offsets if you want to and just put fines in account_debits and payments in account_credits |
| 12:13 | cait | hm and you'd have to calculate the total i think? |
| 12:14 | khall | yes, but I plan on writing a command line script to trigger the recalculation as well |
| 12:14 | cait | ah yes, that makes sense |
| 12:15 | khall | there's already a subroutine to do that, so the cli script is near trivial |
| 12:15 | cait | wasn't magnuse here like a second ago? *nudge* |
| 12:16 | * paxed | posts to both -devel and -translate because topic that makes him see red. |
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| 12:38 | * chris_n | passes out glazed crescents |
| 12:42 | cait | paxed: probably not aware that you are argueing wiht me ;) |
| 12:48 | chris_n: glazed crescents? | |
| 12:48 | paxed | cait: oh, right - i saw you changing your nick few days ago. arguing? well... just a very passionate topic for me :) |
| 12:49 | cait | yeah, but complaining doesn't help |
| 12:49 | improving yes | |
| 12:49 | and maybe also keep in mind that most of the translation improvements have been done as volunteer work | |
| 12:50 | aslibraries are not funding things like this directly | |
| 12:50 | in my experience, someone might prove me wrong | |
| 12:50 | paxed | cait: unfortunately i'm in the middle of a translation crunch - i need to get Koha more-or-less translated to Finnish before go on vacation next week - so my coding time is very limited. |
| 12:53 | cait | that's ok, just something to keep in mind |
| 12:54 | paxed | (i'll try to complain less in the future and use constructive criticism instead...) |
| 12:59 | cait | i have posted some notes to your list |
| 12:59 | hope it doesn't make your blood boil again :) | |
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| 13:02 | francharb | Good morning #koha |
| 13:02 | cait | hi francharb :) |
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| 13:25 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 13:27 | cait | hi drojf! |
| 13:27 | * cait | is tempted to superglue drojf to #koha so he can't disappear again ;) |
| 13:29 | cait | how is your thesis? finished? |
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| 13:57 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 13:58 | marcelr++ # for continually following up on a multi-person patched bug report. | |
| 13:58 | magnuse | there's still no batch marc record modifcation tool in koha, right? |
| 13:58 | and MARC Modifications Templates only work for records that are staged/imported, not for z39.50, right? | |
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| 14:05 | mtompset | No that I know of, and I don't know but that sounds right. |
| 14:05 | ^No^Not^ | |
| 14:10 | cait | magnuse: right |
| 14:11 | magnuse | dang ;-) |
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| 14:21 | alex__ | hello, i have a question regarding setting up z39.50 in koha. I have configured the file koha-conf.xml and uncommented the part about the z39.50 and have put port 210. what else do I need to do in order for z39.50 to work? we are new to koha and i think we probaly havent configured our system properly. thanx! |
| 14:21 | cait | alex_what do you want to do? :) |
| 14:22 | do you want to download records form other catalogs into your koha? or do you want others to download records via z39.50 from your catalog into theirs? | |
| 14:22 | alex__ | we want to be able to use z39.50 for cataloging purposes |
| 14:22 | but our IT staff have told us that the service needs t be running in order to apply their changes on the network | |
| 14:24 | for the tome being we want to download recodrs via z39.50 | |
| 14:24 | jcamins | alex__: they just have to allow you to make connections out to the ports used by whatever Z39.50 servers you are using. |
| 14:25 | alex__ | this is what i thought too |
| 14:25 | jcamins | There's not really a "service" that will be running. |
| 14:25 | alex__ | but they insist that a service must be running |
| 14:25 | ok | |
| 14:26 | jcamins | You'll need ports 210 and 7090 opened, at for the default targets, but you could add other targets that used different ports, potentially. |
| 14:26 | alex__ | in this case, i only need to apply the port on the koha-conf.xml file, correct?> |
| 14:26 | jcamins | No. |
| 14:26 | koha-conf.xml has nothing to do with downloading records for copy cataloging. | |
| 14:27 | alex__ | oh ok because i say a part about z39.50 |
| 14:27 | i saw | |
| 14:27 | jcamins | Yeah, but that's if you want to allow other people to download records. |
| 14:27 | alex__ | ok i see |
| 14:27 | so if we open ports 210 aqnd 7090 we should be ok | |
| 14:27 | thanks gyus | |
| 14:32 | cait | ah sorry, got distracted |
| 14:32 | reading back | |
| 14:33 | ah, thx jcamins | |
| 14:34 | alex_: it can work 2 directions, for use in cataloguing you just need the configuration in administration and the ports must be open in your firewall | |
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| 15:11 | cait | guess the super glue didn't work |
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| 15:23 | chris_n | cait: it was probably out of date |
| 15:24 | * chris_n | gets caught on spelling again: glazed croissants |
| 15:36 | cait | have to run -bbl :) |
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| 16:05 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:06 | rambutan | At KohaCon13 someone (can't recall, maybe bag or nengard) mentioned OverDrive could be integrated with Koha.... |
| 16:06 | however I suspect that would work with an individual subscription. Any idea if that would work at all if we were part of a state consortium? | |
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| 16:23 | Dyrcona | rambutan: When you say, "OverDrive could be integrated with Koha" do you mean via the OverDrive API? |
| 16:24 | rambutan | I assume that's what was meant, yes. |
| 16:27 | Dyrcona | Thank. I asked out of curiosity. Evergreen doesn't have that kind of integration available, yet. |
| 16:27 | My consortium does have OverDrive and we load bib records so that they can be searched, but that's about it. | |
| 16:28 | rambutan | where do you get your records? We have some ebooks from OD that we pay for separately, and our TS has manually entered the records. |
| 16:29 | Dyrcona | Yeah, out TS enters them. I'm not sure where they get the records, probably OCLC, maybe from OverDrive. |
| 16:30 | I offered to script it, but they said no. | |
| 16:30 | Guess they like doing busy work. | |
| 16:33 | bag | rambutan: it should work yes |
| 16:33 | rambutan | with the consortium you mean? |
| 16:34 | http://www.molib2go.org | |
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| 16:55 | gmcharlt | jcamins: do you have any experience with libraries that mix in non-EACC CCCII characters with EACC? particularly Japanese Z39.50 targets? |
| 16:56 | @later tell dcook MARC::Record and friends are already mentioned in http://wiki.code4lib.org/index[…]Working_with_MARC -- see the entry for MARC/Perl | |
| 16:56 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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| 17:09 | chris_n | lunch |
| 17:17 | tcohen joined #koha | |
| 17:30 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 17:38 | tcohen | hi there |
| 17:39 | rambutan | hi tcohen |
| 17:44 | jcamins | gmcharlt: I do not. But I'm sure there are libraries that do that. |
| 17:44 | gmcharlt | jcamins: indeed, I found one today while looking into Zac's question on the mailing list today |
| 17:45 | I'm more wondering if mixing in CCCII characters is ad hoc or a de factor standard in select lanaguge zones | |
| 17:50 | thd | All the CJK Z39.50 targets which I have tried used UTF8 if I remember correctly but I would have some strange matches in queries of targets in Japan. |
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| 17:54 | thd | s/used UTF8/used UTF8, except for some big5 encoding in some Chinese targets which I tried,/ |
| 17:56 | tcohen | hi thd! |
| 17:57 | thd | Hello tcohen |
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| 18:05 | Bruce_ | Have I miscalculated the start time for the December meeting? |
| 18:07 | davidnind | Hi Bruce_. No - we just need someone to volunteer to chair... |
| 18:07 | nancyk | I thought it was now |
| 18:07 | Bruce_ | Oh good. At least I'm not alone in my delusion! |
| 18:08 | gmcharlt | it is indeed now |
| 18:08 | * gmcharlt | doesn't have time to chair today, however |
| 18:09 | * Bruce_ | doesn't have the knowledge of how to record the meeting. Is there a FAQ? |
| 18:09 | davidnind | I'll give it a go - http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html |
| 18:10 | I may be a bit slow, unless there is anyone else willing? | |
| 18:10 | Bruce_ | Willing, but clue-deficient. Only my second meeting. |
| 18:11 | davidnind | I've done it once before, so hear goes again. |
| 18:11 | thd | I nominate anyone more awake than me. |
| 18:11 | davidnind | #startmeeting |
| 18:11 | wahanui | if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me |
| 18:11 | huginn | davidnind: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' |
| 18:11 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 18:11 | davidnind | #startmeeting IRC General Meeting 4 December 2013 |
| 18:11 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Dec 4 18:11:47 2013 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 18:11 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 18:11 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: IRC General Meeting 4 December 2013) | |
| 18:11 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'irc_general_meeting_4_december_2013' |
| 18:12 | davidnind | #topic Introductions |
| 18:12 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: IRC General Meeting 4 December 2013) | |
| 18:12 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 18:12 | davidnind | #info David Nind, Wellington NZ |
| 18:12 | gmcharlt | #info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, ESI, Seattle, USA; 3.16 release manager |
| 18:12 | Bruce_ | ?info Bruce Metcalf, Augustan Society Library, Orlando FL US |
| 18:13 | jwagner | #info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS |
| 18:13 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Universidad Nacional de Cordoba, Argentina |
| 18:13 | joels68 | #info Joel Sasse, Plum Creek Library system, Minnesota |
| 18:13 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City - not dead yet |
| 18:14 | nancyk | #info Nancy Keener Washoe County Library System |
| 18:14 | JesseM | #info Jesse Maseto ByWater Solutions |
| 18:14 | bag | #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater |
| 18:14 | nengard | #info Nicole Engard, ByWater Solutions |
| 18:15 | davidnind | Whew! We do have some people here. |
| 18:15 | #topic Announcements | |
| 18:15 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: IRC General Meeting 4 December 2013) | |
| 18:16 | davidnind | Does anyone one have any announcements they wish to make? |
| 18:17 | Bruce_ joined #koha | |
| 18:17 | davidnind | The videos that are available from KohaCon13 are now online at https://archive.org/search.php[…]3A%22kohacon13%22 |
| 18:18 | nengard | KohaCon14 will be held in C?rdoba, Argentina on October 6th through 13. |
| 18:18 | bag | agenda? |
| 18:18 | wahanui | i heard agenda was a wiki |
| 18:18 | nengard | And I would add that not the entire conference was recorded - so what's on the internet archive is all I got from the conference organizers |
| 18:18 | gmcharlt | #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…],_4_December_2013 |
| 18:18 | bag | thanks gmcharlt |
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| 18:19 | khall | #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions |
| 18:20 | davidnind | #info KohaCon14 will be held in Cordoba, Argentina on October 6th through 13 |
| 18:20 | #info he videos that are available from KohaCon13 are now online at https://archive.org/search.php[…]3A%22kohacon13%22 | |
| 18:20 | barton | #info barton |
| 18:20 | davidnind | #topic Update on 3.8 |
| 18:20 | Topic for #koha is now Update on 3.8 (Meeting topic: IRC General Meeting 4 December 2013) | |
| 18:20 | davidnind | Is anyone able to provide an update on 3.8? |
| 18:21 | barton | #info Barton Chittenden, ByWater Solutions |
| 18:22 | davidnind | 3.8.20 released on 30 November |
| 18:22 | On agenda to discuss | |
| 18:22 | magnuse | #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway |
| 18:22 | davidnind | #topic Update on 3.10 |
| 18:22 | Topic for #koha is now Update on 3.10 (Meeting topic: IRC General Meeting 4 December 2013) | |
| 18:23 | talljoy | #info joy Nelson ByWater |
| 18:23 | davidnind | Anyone able to provide an update on 3.10? |
| 18:24 | bag | guess not |
| 18:24 | davidnind | Okay, moving right along to the next item.... |
| 18:24 | #topic Update on 3.12 | |
| 18:24 | Topic for #koha is now Update on 3.12 (Meeting topic: IRC General Meeting 4 December 2013) | |
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| 18:25 | davidnind | Anyone able to provide an update on 3.12? |
| 18:27 | Okay, moving right along .... | |
| 18:27 | bag | are all the maints on much different timezones? |
| 18:27 | I guess os | |
| 18:27 | so* | |
| 18:28 | davidnind | Not sure..ah well |
| 18:28 | 3.12.7 released on 22 November | |
| 18:28 | #topic Update on 3.14 | |
| 18:28 | Topic for #koha is now Update on 3.14 (Meeting topic: IRC General Meeting 4 December 2013) | |
| 18:29 | gmcharlt | I've communicated with Fridolin and expect that he'll start to push patches into 3.14.x soon |
| 18:29 | bag | sweet |
| 18:31 | davidnind | Great! Also least we forget 3.14 was released in November - thanks to everyone involved @gmcharlt++ |
| 18:31 | gmcharlt | details, details ;) |
| 18:31 | tcohen | i'm sorry i was absent a few minutes ago |
| 18:31 | nengard | gmcharlt++ |
| 18:31 | davidnind | gmcharlt++ |
| 18:31 | tcohen | gmcharlt++ |
| 18:32 | talljoy | gmcharlt++ |
| 18:32 | joels68 | gmcharlt++ |
| 18:32 | JesseM | gmcharlt++ |
| 18:32 | Bruce_ | gmcharlt++ 3.14 has features I didn't know I desperately needed! |
| 18:33 | gmcharlt | all_you_all++ # without everybody else, I would have nothing to do |
| 18:33 | thd | gmcharlt++; Fridolin++; |
| 18:33 | davidnind | #info Congrats and a big thankyou to everyone involved in the 3.14 release |
| 18:33 | bag | gmcharlt++ |
| 18:33 | davidnind | I'm sure you would have thought of something.... |
| 18:34 | #topic Update on 3.16 | |
| 18:34 | Topic for #koha is now Update on 3.16 (Meeting topic: IRC General Meeting 4 December 2013) | |
| 18:34 | gmcharlt | #info Patches have started being pushed to master for 3.16 |
| 18:35 | #info Galen will be outlining various changes to coding guidlines in the next two weeks for developer consideration -- having to do with things like implications of of DBIx::Class support | |
| 18:35 | nengard | #info I'll create a branch for the 3.16 manual probably after the .1 release (and after i finalize the 3.14 manual) |
| 18:36 | davidnind | nengard++ |
| 18:36 | gmcharlt | any questions? |
| 18:37 | bag | any movement on module maintainers? |
| 18:37 | gmcharlt | not yet, but it's on my list |
| 18:38 | bag | ok thanks :) |
| 18:39 | that's it from me for questions (for now :P ) | |
| 18:39 | tcohen | will it be mandatory to use DBIx::Class for 3.16 patches? |
| 18:40 | * bag | is looking forward for the developer docs gmcharlt speaks of :) |
| 18:40 | gmcharlt | tcohen: it will be strongly encouraged |
| 18:40 | tcohen | thx gmcharlt |
| 18:41 | davidnind | Thanks gmcharlt |
| 18:41 | #topic Extra elections for 3.16 | |
| 18:41 | Topic for #koha is now Extra elections for 3.16 (Meeting topic: IRC General Meeting 4 December 2013) | |
| 18:41 | davidnind | We have two nominations, will do one at a time |
| 18:42 | The previous general meeting left it open for additional people to be nominated | |
| 18:42 | First up is Magnus Enger volunteering as a Bug Wrangler | |
| 18:42 | bag | +1 |
| 18:42 | gmcharlt | +1 |
| 18:42 | nengard | +1 |
| 18:42 | JesseM | +1 |
| 18:42 | davidnind | +1 |
| 18:43 | Bruce_ | +1 |
| 18:43 | barton | +1 |
| 18:43 | thd | +1 |
| 18:43 | * magnuse | bows |
| 18:43 | gmcharlt | magnuse++ # you're stuck with us now! |
| 18:43 | tcohen | +1 |
| 18:43 | khall | +1 |
| 18:43 | magnuse | gmcharlt: couldn't imagine a better buch to be stuck with |
| 18:44 | davidnind | #agreed Magnus Enger is now a Bug Wrangler |
| 18:44 | magnuse | yay! |
| 18:44 | JesseM | magnuse++ |
| 18:44 | magnuse | thanks, i'll try to live up to my own expectations this time... |
| 18:45 | bag | awesome |
| 18:45 | davidnind | Next up is Brendan Gallagher volunteering as part of the QA team |
| 18:45 | nengard | hmmmmm |
| 18:45 | magnuse | +1 |
| 18:45 | nengard | not sure about that one |
| 18:45 | :) | |
| 18:45 | Bruce_ | +1 |
| 18:45 | nengard | +1 |
| 18:45 | JesseM | +1 |
| 18:45 | talljoy | +1 |
| 18:46 | barton | +1 |
| 18:46 | davidnind | +1 |
| 18:46 | gmcharlt | +1 |
| 18:46 | khall | +1 |
| 18:46 | thd | +1 |
| 18:46 | * bag | follows magnuse's excellent lead and bows |
| 18:46 | davidnind | #agreed Brendan Gallagher is now on the Quality Assurance team |
| 18:47 | bag | thanks :) |
| 18:47 | davidnind | Thanks everyone for volunteering for these roles |
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| 18:47 | davidnind | #topic Decision on maintaining 3.8.x and electing Release Maintainer for 3.8.x |
| 18:47 | Topic for #koha is now Decision on maintaining 3.8.x and electing Release Maintainer for 3.8.x (Meeting topic: IRC General Meeting 4 December 2013) | |
| 18:48 | davidnind | Note that Kyle Hall has been added as release maintainer http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.16 |
| 18:48 | magnuse | do we have a volunteer? |
| 18:49 | davidnind | The last meeting left it open - whether to continue the 3.8.x branch and elected an rmaint for it to be decided by the December IRC meeting |
| 18:50 | I assume that if someone is willing to be a Release Maintainer then we will continue supporting? | |
| 18:50 | bag | 3.8 is 2+ years old now? |
| 18:50 | Bruce_ | What is our policy on the duration of support? |
| 18:51 | bag | Bruce_: I don't think there is a hard one… mainly what davidnind said to a certain extent |
| 18:51 | khall | As far as I know, as long as there is a volunteer, a release may continue to be maintained |
| 18:51 | Bruce_ | One is moved to wonder if infinite support is wise. |
| 18:51 | gmcharlt | however, there is a point of dminishing returns, of course |
| 18:51 | barton | how long did we support 3.4? |
| 18:51 | * gmcharlt | proposes that we announce that 3.8.x will be EOLed upon the release of 3.16.x |
| 18:52 | gmcharlt | er, 3.16.0 |
| 18:52 | bag | +1 |
| 18:52 | davidnind | +1 |
| 18:52 | barton | +1 |
| 18:52 | nengard | +1 |
| 18:52 | magnuse | +1 |
| 18:52 | Bruce_ | So... we're going to spread ourselves thin enough to support 5 releases at once? |
| 18:52 | -1 | |
| 18:52 | bag | which means we would need a 3.8 RMaint |
| 18:53 | gmcharlt | Bruce_: are you favoring an immediate EOL for 3.8? |
| 18:53 | tcohen | 3.8 is maintained by Chris Hall right now, right? |
| 18:53 | * gmcharlt | wouldn't mind that, but there's at least one library that has expressed a desire to have it kept going |
| 18:54 | bag | What's the amount of patches that we being written for 3.8? |
| 18:54 | khall | yes, Chris Hall was interested in continuing to maintain 3.8 |
| 18:54 | Bruce_ | I am favoring our adopting some policy about how many simultaneous releases we support so that we aren't spread too thin. |
| 18:54 | khall | I volunteered to take up the reighns |
| 18:54 | davidnind | That would be the next item - to elect Kyle Hall |
| 18:54 | Oops | |
| 18:54 | Bruce_ | ... but Kyle's offer moots my point for the moment. |
| 18:54 | khall | 2 years of maintainence seems reasonable |
| 18:55 | gmcharlt | Bruce_: I think discussing a policy is a good idea; probably for koha-devel first, though |
| 18:55 | magnuse | +1 |
| 18:55 | thd | Releases should be maintained as long as there is a maintainer willing to maintain them. Recommending maintenance of an old release is a different question entirely. |
| 18:55 | Bruce_ | Right. I'll see if I can find the right venue for my thoughts. |
| 18:55 | gmcharlt | thd: in principle, yeah, if somebody wants to do it, we don't necessarily want to say no -- but on the other hand, there are real costs tot he community if folks don't stay reasonably current |
| 18:56 | * gmcharlt | is putting aside security releases for the moment |
| 18:56 | davidnind | Okay. As we have volunteer we should now vote on khall (Kyle Hall) volunteering as release maintainer for 3.8 |
| 18:56 | Bruce_ | +1 |
| 18:57 | JesseM | +1 |
| 18:57 | nengard | +1 |
| 18:57 | gmcharlt | +1 |
| 18:57 | davidnind | +1 |
| 18:57 | thd | We should definitely encourage people to upgrade but they are allowed not to do so for whatever reasons they may choose, however unwisely over time. |
| 18:57 | barton | +1 |
| 18:57 | thd | +1 |
| 18:57 | edveal | +1 |
| 18:57 | talljoy | +1 |
| 18:57 | bag | +1 |
| 18:58 | tcohen | +1 |
| 18:58 | davidnind | #agreed khall (Kyle Hall) is now Release Maintainer for 3.8 |
| 18:58 | gmcharlt | khall++ |
| 18:59 | * khall | bows with a flourish |
| 18:59 | magnuse | khall++ |
| 18:59 | tcohen | khall++ |
| 18:59 | bag | khall++ |
| 19:00 | talljoy | khall++ |
| 19:00 | davidnind | #agreed To discuss in other forums the policy around supporting older releases (unless it is already documented elsewhere) |
| 19:00 | khall++ | |
| 19:00 | #topic KohaCon14 | |
| 19:00 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon14 (Meeting topic: IRC General Meeting 4 December 2013) | |
| 19:00 | joels68 | khall++ |
| 19:01 | davidnind | Is anyone here able to talk about this? |
| 19:01 | tcohen | briefly |
| 19:01 | davidnind | Great! |
| 19:02 | tcohen | KohaCon14 will be held in Cordoba, on october 6th through 13th |
| 19:02 | we are about to set a wiki page for it, and arrange things for calling for presentations and volunteers | |
| 19:02 | now we have set the dates we will start searching for local sponsors | |
| 19:03 | nengard | tcohen I can set up the call for presenters form again if need be |
| 19:03 | tcohen | the conference will be held in the university campus |
| 19:03 | magnuse | 3 days conference, 1 day rest, 4 days hackfest? |
| 19:03 | tcohen | i was thinking of reusing our OCS setup |
| 19:03 | davidnind | OCS? |
| 19:03 | tcohen | 3 days conference, a couple of days for hackfest |
| 19:04 | some trips within Cordoba on the weekend | |
| 19:04 | and more hackfest for those who want to stay longer | |
| 19:04 | PKP Open Conference System | |
| 19:05 | we will try to make a more precise proposal to put into consideration to the community | |
| 19:05 | ASAP | |
| 19:05 | bag | :) |
| 19:06 | tcohen | any thoughts on the dates? are they ok? |
| 19:06 | nengard | they work for me |
| 19:06 | thd | tcohen++ 4 day hackfest |
| 19:06 | JesseM | I like the dates as well |
| 19:06 | tcohen | do we need two weekend days for traveling around? is one enough like it was in Reno? |
| 19:06 | Bruce_ | I think the dates should be determined locally, as shifting by a week can make a great difference in the cost of hotels and meeting space. |
| 19:07 | nengard | Well I'll note that the following week I have another conference |
| 19:07 | so shifting it that way is a bad idea for me :) | |
| 19:07 | barton | nengard is going to be busy in October |
| 19:07 | Bruce_ | ... with due consideration for other major conferences. |
| 19:07 | * nengard | is always busy |
| 19:08 | thd | nengard: Which conference is held the following week? |
| 19:08 | nengard | But I do have those dates blocked off Oct 6-13th for KohaCon :) |
| 19:08 | thd internet librarian - I was wrong it's the 27th - but still a week of rest is good | |
| 19:08 | davidnind | I think it is great that the dates are known now - so that people can plan around it (it is what community members asked for) |
| 19:08 | nengard | yup |
| 19:08 | * nengard | is happy :) |
| 19:08 | tcohen | yes |
| 19:08 | we too :-D | |
| 19:08 | davidnind | Unless there is a major reason to change these I think we should stick with what the organisers have announced... |
| 19:08 | bag | yup dates set are a good thing |
| 19:09 | nengard | +1 |
| 19:09 | bag | +1 |
| 19:09 | tcohen | we are going to need your advise in several areas nengard :-D |
| 19:09 | nengard | no problem at all |
| 19:09 | davidnind | Thanks for the update tcohen |
| 19:10 | tcohen++ | |
| 19:10 | tcohen | np |
| 19:10 | nengard | tcohen++ |
| 19:10 | davidnind | #info KohaCon14 will be be held in Cordoba, 6-13th October |
| 19:10 | #info Wiki page being setup, along with calling for presentations and volunteers | |
| 19:10 | #info Will be held in university campus | |
| 19:10 | #info More details will be made available soon on proposed format, etc | |
| 19:11 | #topic Actions from General IRC meeting, 6 November 2013 | |
| 19:11 | Topic for #koha is now Actions from General IRC meeting, 6 November 2013 (Meeting topic: IRC General Meeting 4 December 2013) | |
| 19:11 | gmcharlt | #info the 3.14 beta, was, in fact, tested -- thanks to the folks who participated |
| 19:11 | magnuse | the_folks++ |
| 19:12 | nengard | hehe |
| 19:12 | davidnind | Now furiously trying to find any actions list from the last meeting ... http://meetings.koha-community[…]-11-06-02.02.html |
| 19:14 | Only action point I can see: all people will test the beta! | |
| 19:14 | #info Thanks to all those who tested the beta for 3.14 | |
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| 19:15 | davidnind | #topic general business |
| 19:15 | Topic for #koha is now general business (Meeting topic: IRC General Meeting 4 December 2013) | |
| 19:16 | davidnind | Does any one have any general business? If not will set the next meeting date.. |
| 19:17 | #topic Next meeting | |
| 19:17 | Topic for #koha is now Next meeting (Meeting topic: IRC General Meeting 4 December 2013) | |
| 19:18 | davidnind | Next in the sequence is 10:00 UTC - date proposed either 1st January or 8th January |
| 19:18 | Bruce_ | One suspects that the latter date will gather greater attendance. |
| 19:19 | davidnind | Proposal is for 8 January 2014 at 10:00 UTC |
| 19:19 | magnuse | +1 |
| 19:19 | davidnind | +1 |
| 19:20 | thd | +1 |
| 19:20 | barton | +1 |
| 19:20 | JesseM | +1 |
| 19:20 | tcohen | +1 |
| 19:21 | Bruce_ | 0 Not gonna be online at 5am anyway. |
| 19:21 | davidnind | #info Next general IRC meeting is 8 January 2014 at 10:00 UTC |
| 19:22 | Thanks everyone for attending, and putting up with me chairing... | |
| 19:22 | #endmeeting | |
| 19:22 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.14.0 is released! Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting 4th December, 18:00 UTC | |
| 19:22 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Dec 4 19:22:09 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 19:22 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-12-04-18.11.html | |
| 19:22 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]3-12-04-18.11.txt | |
| 19:22 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]04-18.11.log.html | |
| 19:22 | magnuse | davidnind++ |
| 19:22 | Bruce_ | davidnind++ |
| 19:22 | davidnind | Bruce_ :-[ |
| 19:22 | JesseM | davidnind++ |
| 19:23 | gmcharlt | davidnind++ |
| 19:24 | * thd | tries to rest before his next meeting. |
| 19:26 | tcohen | davidnind++ |
| 19:32 | magnuse | trying to get my head around authorities... i added a couple of personal name auths and used them in a couple of records, but when i search for the auths i get "used in = 0 records". searching for the names do turn up the right bibliographic records, though. any auth-n00b mistakes i might be making? |
| 19:33 | francharb | magnuse, did you reindex your authorities? |
| 19:34 | or the biblio? | |
| 19:34 | wahanui | hmmm... the biblio is book or? |
| 19:35 | magnuse | francharb: yeah, both |
| 19:35 | i wonder if it is a normarc thing, if it doesn't ring a bell with anyone else... | |
| 19:36 | francharb | do you have the $9 in the biblio framework |
| 19:36 | for each authority related field | |
| 19:36 | gmcharlt | magnuse: also, try running ./misc/link_bibs_to_authorities.pl |
| 19:37 | francharb | magnuse, how did you use the authorities? |
| 19:37 | through plugins? | |
| 19:40 | magnuse | i set 100a to use PERSO_NAME, then clicked on the ... to the right of 100a, search for the name, and chose the right name |
| 19:40 | ah, $9 might be missing, let me check | |
| 19:41 | tcohen | $9 is where the reference to the authid is saved magnuse |
| 19:41 | magnuse | yeah, it's missing, i'll try to add it and see if that helps |
| 19:42 | francharb | :) |
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| 19:45 | jeff | kohadevreactions++ as always |
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| 19:51 | jeff | having just resorted to regular expressions to de-mangle some of the NCIP messages received from our statewide resource sharing system, I much appreciated the Working on NCIP reaction. |
| 19:56 | Dyrcona | jeff: Now, you've got two problems. :) |
| 20:05 | magnuse | yup, $9 did the trick! francharb++ tcohen++ |
| 20:06 | francharb | \o/ |
| 20:06 | tcohen | \o/ |
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| 20:15 | jeff | Dyrcona: did I share the title of the item with you elsewhere? <Title datatype="string">An inconvenient match / Janet Dean.</Title> |
| 20:16 | Dyrcona | jeff: No, I don't recall that, but it is funny in the context. |
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| 20:18 | jeff | Dyrcona: also, this classic answer came to mind as I resorted to $xml =~ s/\x04//g; # Remove ^D from xml -- http://stackoverflow.com/a/1732454/157515 |
| 20:19 | * Dyrcona | wipes a tear from his eye. |
| 20:19 | Dyrcona | That is beautiful. |
| 20:32 | rangi | morning |
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| 20:34 | rambutan | afternoon |
| 20:38 | * rangi | reads the minutes |
| 20:45 | * magnuse | waves to rangi before wandering off into the night |
| 20:45 | rangi | cya magnuse :) |
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| 20:47 | rangi | hey NateC |
| 20:52 | NateC | hey a rangi |
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| 20:54 | pablito | does anyone know if it's possible to have e-journals in Koha? |
| 20:54 | rangi | yep it certainly is |
| 20:55 | however koha wont manage things like licenses and subscriptions and access type things to them, but you can catalogue them you would anything else | |
| 20:55 | pablito | hmm |
| 20:55 | ok | |
| 20:56 | do you have a sample MARC template of such? | |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | most people catalogue them just like paper journals, but with a url either in the 856 or in the item record |
| 20:57 | pablito | ah i c |
| 21:02 | rangi | 856u or 952u (for marc21) |
| 21:02 | pablito | so koha would be a database of links to the e-journals |
| 21:02 | rangi | yup |
| 21:02 | pablito | this may not make sense, but can koha "host" e-journals? |
| 21:02 | rangi | yes, but not super well |
| 21:03 | you can attach a file to a marc record | |
| 21:03 | that file could be an epub | |
| 21:03 | BUT, you are much better off to use an actual cms or digital repository to hold the actual files | |
| 21:03 | with version control, having different formats etc | |
| 21:03 | pablito | what cms/dig. repos. do you recommend? |
| 21:04 | rangi | http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz[…]Cwrdl%3A%20hamlet |
| 21:04 | thats an ebook .. ejournal is much the same | |
| 21:04 | hmm i dont really have a preference | |
| 21:05 | rambutan | rangi: would it make sense to have a fully populated digital repository (DSpace or whatever), and then also have marc records in koha that point to the DR? |
| 21:05 | gmcharlt | rambutan: that's potentially a great way to improve access to the content in the DR |
| 21:06 | rangi | yep |
| 21:06 | gmcharlt | of course, it would be a good idea to automate the maintenance of the MARC records as much as possible |
| 21:06 | rangi | rambutan: even nicer would be to have koha search both |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | moar betterer would be a DR that can be read with z39.50 or OAI and integrate that into searches in Koha rather than cataloguing twice (perhaps that's daft) |
| 21:06 | hey jinx | |
| 21:06 | rangi | :) |
| 21:06 | rambutan | too bad there wouldn't be some way to automagically have Koha pull these (db extract or something) from the DR. |
| 21:07 | rangi | if it does oai-pmh |
| 21:07 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: rangi: yeah, that's the ongoing federated search vs. collect ALL THE METADATA debate |
| 21:07 | ebegin | rambutan, we are working of that kind of integration for one of our client |
| 21:07 | rangi | then dcook has been working on that too |
| 21:07 | rambutan | rangi: yea, that was my competing thought that I couldn't think of: some type of federated search |
| 21:07 | rangi | ebegin: you shoudl talk with dcook |
| 21:07 | he is working/worked on a oai client for koha, so koha can ingest from dspace for example | |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | personally, I'm of the "know people who know things" persuasion |
| 21:08 | rambutan | does Koha deal well with Dublin Core? |
| 21:08 | jcamins | rambutan: as long as you convert it into MARC before giving it to Koha. |
| 21:08 | rangi | rambutan: currently you have to map it into marc using xslt |
| 21:08 | however once the elasticsearch stuff is done, it wont actually care so much ;) | |
| 21:08 | rambutan | hummm, sounds like developer work :) |
| 21:09 | I need to go find some money. | |
| 21:09 | pablito | thanks for the advice guys, have a good night/day |
| 21:09 | :-) | |
| 21:09 | rambutan | OH LOOK! LSTA grants due in January! |
| 21:10 | ebegin | rambutan, how convinient :) |
| 21:11 | s/convi/conve | |
| 21:14 | peggy | I need a little syntax help... I am debugging with warn. I can put a scalar variable (i.e. $borrower_branchcode) in the warn line and it gives me the value of the variable. |
| 21:14 | How can I see the contents of the more complex variables? Like a hash? | |
| 21:14 | ebegin | peggy, I would use Data::Dumper |
| 21:15 | then Dumper( $complexVariable) | |
| 21:15 | peggy | Thanks! I'll give it a go. |
| 21:15 | ebegin | warn "my complex variable" . Dumper( $complexVariable ); |
| 21:16 | peggy | Ah. OK |
| 21:18 | Now that is a pretty sight!!! Thanks for the help, ebegin. | |
| 21:20 | ebegin | :) |
| 21:21 | tcohen | what was the syntax for extended patron attributes import? I need to put three occurencies of an attribute |
| 21:22 | peggy: Data::Printer is awesome too | |
| 21:22 | peggy | tcohen, what does that do? |
| 21:23 | tcohen | pretty print data structures to stdout |
| 21:23 | ebegin | "Attribute1Code:value","Attribute2Code:value",... |
| 21:23 | tcohen, that was for you :) | |
| 21:24 | you have an example in the tools » import borrower page | |
| 21:24 | rangi | can i get a sign off on bug 11341 please |
| 21:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11341 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , XSS attack vendor in facets in OPAC - prog theme |
| 21:24 | rangi | and if any qa team people are around, some qa after too :) |
| 21:25 | peggy | Thanks tcohen. I may use that later on. |
| 21:26 | tcohen | ebegin: thanks |
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| 21:33 | bag | I can QA that starting in another 30 minutes |
| 21:34 | rangi | sweet |
| 21:34 | we just need a sign off then | |
| 21:35 | tcohen | don't u have one already? |
| 21:36 | wizzyrea | ^ hehe |
| 21:36 | bag | yes tcohen did it :D |
| 21:41 | tcohen | rangi, good catch, once you reproduce it, is scary |
| 21:42 | rangi | i didnt actually catch it, had it reported to me |
| 21:42 | its interesting we were escaping everything else, just not the offset | |
| 21:43 | i think i will do a patch to switch on escaping by default, and then you have to opt out | |
| 21:43 | it will break some stuff im sure, but easily fixable and will make us not miss things like this | |
| 21:44 | and thanks for the sign off ;) | |
| 21:47 | tcohen | u r welcome rangi |
| 21:48 | pianohacker | peggy: tip, supposing that you're just using this in one place: you can have use Data::Dumper; warn Dumper( ... ); on one line, which makes it easy to kill off when you're done with it |
| 21:51 | peggy | pianohacker, that's handy, but use Data::Dumper is already in the file, I think for when you turn on verbose. |
| 21:52 | pianohacker | ah! very well then :) |
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| 21:57 | rangi | ahh nice starman is in wheezy |
| 21:58 | bag | gmcharlt: bug 11341 passed qa |
| 21:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11341 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , XSS attack vendor in facets in OPAC - prog theme |
| 21:58 | * gmcharlt | looks at it |
| 21:59 | eythian | blimmin attack vendors |
| 22:00 | rangi | heh yeah totally typoed there |
| 22:03 | gmcharlt | the sorts of folks who respond to RFPs for things like, say, the invasion of Ruritania? |
| 22:04 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #250 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #247 1 day 21 hr ago) |
| 22:08 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11341: fix XSS bug in opac-search.pl (facets) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f6d735d2abd125380> |
| 22:08 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1536 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 22:13 | francharb | bye |
| 22:16 | tcohen | gmcharlt: those Search.t tests failing on jenkins don't fail on my box |
| 22:16 | (talking about 3.12.x) | |
| 22:16 | gmcharlt | tcohen: nor for me -- my supposition at the moment is that it's something to do with his particular environment |
| 22:17 | or that release of OpenSUSE | |
| 22:17 | ah, sorry | |
| 22:17 | * tcohen | doesn't have OpenSuSE to test |
| 22:17 | gmcharlt | I'm conflating that with the QueryParser.t issue that somebody reported on the lists |
| 22:17 | tcohen | I'm talking about that too |
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| 22:19 | tcohen | no i'm not |
| 22:19 | gmcharlt: i'm the one who mixed both problems | |
| 22:19 | heh | |
| 22:19 | gmcharlt | tcohen: I think we both did :) |
| 22:19 | * tcohen | feels the lack of coffee |
| 22:19 | * gmcharlt | has had plenty of coffee today, and is still feeling the lack of coffee :/ |
| 22:20 | tcohen | when i read that email it reminded me that it bothered me that jenkins had those tests failing |
| 22:20 | so, mixed | |
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| 22:51 | rambutan | @wunder 64507 |
| 22:51 | huginn | rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -3.3°C (4:51 PM CST on December 04, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1009 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:52 | wizzyrea | that's pretty chilly |
| 22:52 | @wunder nzwn | |
| 22:52 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 22.0°C (11:30 AM NZDT on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:53 | rambutan | it's D* chilly. |
| 22:53 | 1" of snow on Sunday here | |
| 22:53 | next Sunday I do mean | |
| 22:53 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 22:53 | Project master_maria build #250: FIXED in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/250/ | |
| 22:53 | Chris Cormack: Bug 11341: fix XSS bug in opac-search.pl (facets) | |
| 22:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11341 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , XSS attack vendor in facets in OPAC - prog theme |
| 23:11 | pianohacker | @wunder 80401 |
| 23:11 | huginn | pianohacker: The current temperature in Lookout Pointe, Golden, Colorado is -13.9°C (4:11 PM MST on December 04, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
| 23:11 | dcook | @wunder sydney australia |
| 23:11 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 21.0°C (10:00 AM EST on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Falling). |
| 23:11 | dcook | Wee bit warmer ;) |
| 23:11 | pianohacker | oh man you suck |
| 23:11 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 23:11 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 22.0°C (11:30 AM NZDT on December 05, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 23:11 | rangi | beat ya |
| 23:11 | eythian | hah, take that Sydney! |
| 23:13 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:13 | You're apparently overcast though? | |
| 23:13 | I just see blue sky ;) | |
| 23:18 | eythian | that's why it's warm here. Warm, muggy, and cloudy. |
| 23:18 | It's not really normal Wellington weather. | |
| 23:18 | wizzyrea | it was strange this morning, foggy/misty |
| 23:18 | and really, awfully warm | |
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| 23:28 | dcook | Sounds a bit like our yesterday |
| 23:28 | eythian | hi cait |
| 23:28 | dcook | I suppose it starts off clear in the morning and gets a bit muggier throughout the day here lately |
| 23:28 | * dcook | waves to ait |
| 23:28 | also waves to cait | |
| 23:28 | cait | hi eythian |
| 23:28 | isn't it yourlunch time? | |
| 23:28 | eythian | yeah, but I'm working on something, so I'll wait a bit. |
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