IRC log for #koha, 2013-12-03

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00:07 mtompset Actually, I think bug 10891 could still complement 11232.
00:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10891 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Make facets customisable
00:08 mtompset In that 11232 would actually get zebra based facets working, and that 10891 would provide the mechanisms to do filtering for that.
00:09 dcook Yeah, could call.
00:09 It would just not need that MARC mapping column
00:09 Feel free to note that on 10891 :)
00:13 mtompset Oops... I think I put it on 11232.
00:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11322: rscrub bad data before storing suggestions in the DB <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]537c283d15e267d93> / Bug 11322: fix XSS bug in purchase suggestions - OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1d75aa09241c92f8e> / Bug 11322: fix XSS bug in purchase suggestions pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/
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00:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #247 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:37 Starting build #1533 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:48 joels68 Hi edveal, how's it going?
00:56 edveal Going well and how are things with you joels68
00:57 joels68 Good. Back home in TX or on the road?
01:03 edveal Finally back home. I was in Chicago and could not get home thanks to the weather in TX so I had to just go to Austin for a few days before Thanksgiving and meet my family there.
01:06 joels68 Weather here in MN has been remarkably calm. Hoping for a brown Christmas. It can change here real fast.
01:07 edveal I hear that, in Lubbock we have had lows around freezing and highs in the 70's
01:09 joels68 Can you point me to any examples of custom content added to the CSSR theme? I know CSSR is on the way out but I'd like to find some code I could modify w/o too much work.
01:10 I'd like to do something like a rotating new book display or something similar.
01:15 edveal I will send you something to check out.
01:17 joels68 Appreciate it. I'm redoing or spiffing up all of my consortium's web sites.
01:18 edveal I PM'ed you a link.
01:24 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #247: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/247/
01:24 * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: fix XSS bug in purchase suggestions pages
01:24 * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: fix XSS bug in purchase suggestions - OPAC
01:24 * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: rscrub bad data before storing suggestions in the DB
01:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11322 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Suggestion "notes" field should be sanitized or escaped
01:27 mtompset Does the solr search page for opac differ than the zebra search page?
01:28 * dcook thinks one would probably have to ask someone from France about that one
01:29 dcook Also, rangi, it looks like the dashboard is still thinking it's November
01:30 eythian wahanui: osi model
01:30 wahanui rumour has it osi model is shock, denial, guilt, anger, bargaining, hope, acceptance
01:32 eythian wahanui: seven stages of grief
01:32 wahanui seven stages of grief are lettuce, tomatoes, rice, beans, sour cream, cheese, guacamole
01:35 joels68 Don't forget layer 8 issues...
01:35 AKA user error.
01:36 Bologna maybe?
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01:38 joels68 wahanui: Why does the end of "Empire" make me cry?
01:38 wahanui joels68: wish i knew
01:39 joels68 sniff
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01:46 rangi dcook: ah yep will fix that, thanks for the heads up
01:55 joels68 Hi BobB, how's Sydney?
01:56 BobB hi joels68, its a beautiful day in Sydney
01:56 @wunder Sydney NSW Australia
01:56 huginn BobB: Error: No such location could be found.
01:56 BobB @wunder Sydney Australia
01:56 huginn BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 24.0°C (12:30 PM EST on December 03, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
01:56 eythian @wunder nzwn
01:56 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 22.0°C (2:30 PM NZDT on December 03, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
01:56 eythian not too far off
01:57 joels68 The original Star Wars trilogy is on Spike now.
01:57 BobB very nice for wellington eythian  :)
01:57 joels68 @wunder Worthington MN
01:57 huginn joels68: The current temperature in Worthington, Minnesota is 4.0°C (7:55 PM CST on December 02, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.55 in 1001 hPa.
01:58 BobB brrrr, take a coat!
01:58 rangi dcook: fixed
01:58 joels68 A big coat
02:00 eythian turns out Voyager also allows items with duplicate barcodes.
02:02 rangi unique smunique
02:02 who needs that
02:03 jcamins eythian: it might be poor normalization.
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02:03 eythian could be, but that's no excuse for the system allowing inconsistent data.
02:04 rangi ]/ws 26
02:04 gah
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02:14 edveal Any jQuery folks in here. I need some help.
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02:14 dcook jQueryish
02:14 What's up, edveal?
02:15 edveal Trying to take a patron barcode and slice X numbers off of it an pass it through to the userid.
02:16 dcook On the member page?
02:17 edveal yes memberentry.pl
02:17 I can pass it through but when I try anything regarding slicing it breaks
02:18 mtompset druthb++ # good multilingual talk. :)
02:18 dcook How do you mean breaks?
02:18 Do you get any error messages?
02:18 It sounds like you're probably having a syntax issue of some kind
02:19 edveal Well it won't work... No errors and firebug does not even show errors.
02:19 mtompset oleonard++ # for taking Ruth's jabs. :)
02:22 eythian edveal: firebug breakpoints are often handy
02:22 so you can single step through js
02:22 edveal Yeah and I am not getting any that is puzzling me.
02:22 eythian not getting any what?
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02:23 edveal Not getting any errors or warning in firebug.
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02:24 eythian use breakpoints to single step through the js
02:24 so you can see what it's doing
02:25 dcook Alternatively, use Chrome and take a look at the errors that show up in the console log
02:26 eythian It's probably that if they don't show up in one, they won't show up in the other.
02:26 (This is not always true however.)
02:27 dcook Chrome has typically been pretty good at showing JS errors, but I don't use Firefox much so I can't really compare :/.
02:28 Putting in breakpoints makes sense though
02:28 Alert stuff along the way and then see where it breaks
02:28 edveal: I assume when it breaks, it doesn't get passed to the userid?
02:29 edveal Alright I am going to call it a night and work on this later. Thanks guys.
02:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1533: SUCCESS in 1 hr 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1533/
02:35 * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: fix XSS bug in purchase suggestions pages
02:35 * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: fix XSS bug in purchase suggestions - OPAC
02:35 * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: rscrub bad data before storing suggestions in the DB
02:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11322 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Suggestion "notes" field should be sanitized or escaped
02:35 rangi heh i invented a word
02:37 dcook rscrub?
02:37 rangi yeah, just a typo
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02:43 dcook At first, I thought it was a typo, then I started thinking a r(angi)scrub might be special ;)
02:48 mtompset could someone else confirm this problem: have 1 book that matches keywords in branch A, but do a search for those keywords in branch B. What do you get in 3.12.x? 3.14.x?
02:49 (in opac)
02:50 In 3.12.x, I'm getting no results, but in 3.14.x, I'm getting 404.
02:50 (the error page)
02:50 eythian if it's a 404, then you can easily figure it out
02:50 because it's asking for a URL that doesn't exist
02:51 mtompset because the biblionumber doesn't exist.
02:51 But I don't get why 3.12.x and 3.14.x behave differently.
02:51 eythian oh
02:51 hmm
02:51 could be an indexing issue?
02:51 it thinks there's a result, but there really isn't
02:52 mtompset There is 1 result, but for the wrong branch.
02:52 Do you get the same behaviour in your 3.12.x and 3.14.x?
02:52 That's what I was asking.
02:53 eythian I tried it in 3.12 just before and got the correct biblio.
02:53 I don't have 3.14 handy to test
02:53 mtompset no... ask for it in the WRONG branch.
02:53 not all libraries, which is default.
02:54 eythian ah. The one I have active only has one branch.
02:54 mtompset add a dummy branch, and search for it in the dummy branch.
02:55 eythian I'm in the process of migrating to the system, I don't want to mess with its database right now.
02:55 mtompset Okay...
02:55 I understand the notion of getting distracted.
02:55 Didn't you migrate yesterday?
02:55 eythian But that 404 is odd: why is it getting a biblionumber that doesn't exist.
02:55 the day before, but this is a different one.
02:55 mtompset Ah.
04:07 bag evening :)
04:11 mtompset Greetings, bag
04:11 bag heya mtompset
04:11 wahanui mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry.
04:11 mtompset Most definitely. I am so far behind in my thank you note snail mails!
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05:19 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha.
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05:59 dcook Karma for MARC:: Perl authors
05:59 gmcharlt++
06:00 I remember a time when I thought it was magic. Now I look at parts of it and just admire people taking the time to put it together.
06:44 Time for home and new electronics!
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06:57 Jurgens Hi All, hopefully some one can give me a quick answer to this: Is it possible to email patrons offering an account summary. What I want to be able to do is send an email out to all patrons who have unpaid fines - and if possible the item they got the fine from if they have brought the item back but not paid the fine yet. Something similair in the way advanced notices are sent?
06:59 I can easily send overdue notices with the fine amout for each item, no problem. But am looking to send a reminder kind of email about outstanding fines, mayble like a quarterly/yearly thing.
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07:35 * magnuse waves in norwegian
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07:36 * magnuse waves to cait
07:37 * cait waves to magnuse
07:39 magnuse wassup?
07:41 cait hmm
07:41 not sure, i just woke up :)
07:42 magnuse hehe
07:42 @later tell rangi: yeah, that's what i suspected :-)
07:42 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
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07:43 reiveune hello
07:44 magnuse bonjour reiveune
07:44 reiveune salut magnuse , cait , rangi , kathryn :)
07:44 cait good mornign reiveune :)
07:47 magnuse found any major flaws in 3.14 yet?
07:47 cait restrictions are a bit werid
07:47 that's the debarred flag
07:47 we have a patch, but it didn't work for oleonard if you wanted to take a look that would be good
07:48 magnuse wish i had the time...
07:48 things will be better after new year, i hope
07:48 cait i keep hoping that too :)
07:49 magnuse :-)
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08:33 gaetan_B hello
08:33 wahanui que tal, gaetan_B
08:36 cait hi gaetan_B
08:40 gaetan_B hi cait, allesklar ?
08:40 cait ja, alles gut
08:40 und bei dir?
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08:47 petter good morning koha
08:49 cait good morning petter
08:53 ashimema good morning #koha, cait, petter
08:54 cait good morning ashimema
08:55 brb
09:18 * magnuse waves to petter
09:19 petter hei magnus!
09:19 vært bra  i Hamburg?
09:19 magnuse heia!
09:19 jepp, veldig
09:19 petter ble du inspirert?
09:19 kult
09:20 magnuse jepp, Catmandu::RDF is teh rulez!
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09:21 * Oak waves
09:22 magnuse Oak
09:22 Oak magnuse
09:22 magnuse :-)
09:22 Oak \o/
09:23 @wunder Konstanz
09:23 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0°C (10:00 AM CET on December 03, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.49 in 1032 hPa (Rising).
09:23 Oak oooh
09:23 magnuse @wunder boo
09:23 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (9:50 AM CET on December 03, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Falling).
09:23 magnuse heh yeah, lots of wind today
09:23 Oak she wins
09:24 @wunder islamabad
09:24 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 22.0°C (2:00 PM PKT on December 03, 2013). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
09:24 Oak hmm. pleasant.
09:25 magnuse yeah, that does not sound too bad
09:26 Oak it's great... considering that in summer we go as high as 40 C...
09:27 * magnuse gasps at the mere thought of it
09:32 strikes Mohenjo-daro off the list of potential places to live
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09:36 scholar I wish to evaluate Koha and have a question about how to import our existing books into the koha catalog
09:38 I have a very simple excel file of the books, but most records have only "title" and "our id" field (our id = a unique number which is on a barcode we added to each book).  some records also have author field and date added.
09:38 I have seen that I can import the data as a MARC file using MarcEdit software
09:39 But during the import, I have to map each field in the "Map To" box in MarcEdit.  Question:  How do I find out the code to input here for "title" and "author" etc?
09:41 cait scholar: koha uses marc21
09:41 scholar Question 2:  We are going to scan every book anyway as our stock data is corrupted.  Is it possible to scan each books barcode (I think this gives the ISBN code?) and then somehow lookup the detailed MARC data from this ISBN code?
09:41 cait you can use up the format specifications at http://loc.gov/marc
09:41 you can use z29.50 to download data/records from other catalogs
09:42 in koha, using the isbn or title words for searching
09:42 you can find information about that in the manual
09:42 manual?
09:42 wahanui hmmm... manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
09:45 cait z39.50 - typoed
09:46 ashimema @wunder Steveange, UK
09:46 huginn ashimema: Error: No such location could be found.
09:46 ashimema @wunder Stevenage, UK
09:46 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 5.4°C (9:40 AM GMT on December 03, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
09:46 cait @wunder Konstanz
09:46 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.8°C (10:45 AM CET on December 03, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
09:46 cait brrr
09:46 ashimema brrr indeed
09:47 scholar I tried using the demo sites to download the book data via Z39.50, but it gave no results.  I think this is because our books are in Japanese. I found a list of z39.50 databases, but for Japan it had only 4 university libraries and I think they would have different books to ours.  Is it not possible to fetch the data from Amazon Japan etc?
09:48 cait amazon doens't provide data in the right formats
09:48 or an interface to get it
09:48 I'd give the universities a try
09:49 and maybe look for a unoin catalog with data - nacsis maybe?
09:50 scholar: where are you located? in japan?
09:51 scholar We are in the UK but its a Japanese school with a library
09:51 I just tried Waseda Uni to look for ISBN: 4834000850 and it returned a result
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09:54 scholar OK so the answer is: I have to install Koha and then setup the connection to waseda or nii.ac.jp for z39.50 lookup and then get all the ISBN numbers and populate the catalog that way.
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09:55 cait it might give you better data than migrating from excel
09:55 BrookeindaCity Flyin a bit blind. Doing mah read the logs while on my touch routine
09:56 scholar ok i will now go read the manual to figure out how to install and set up z39 connections.  thank you.
09:56 cait scholar: it's mostly entering the connection data into a configuation form
09:57 scholar ah ok, maybe i can do that on one of the demo sites.
09:58 cait yep
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10:56 cait back
11:00 magnuse anyone know if http://rperl.org/ is worth supporting?
11:03 cait not me
11:11 ashimema I can't exactly see what it is
11:12 aha.. it's a perl compiler.
11:12 I see.
11:13 I'm still none the wiser on wether it's worth supporting though.
11:24 cait so...
11:24 i have an hour to spend on qa
11:24 i am taking suggestions :P
11:29 ashimema 11078 would be nice to see moving again.. it's in Failed QA state but has received a number of followups from doug since..
11:29 Not sure where it stands.. wether it needs a refreshed sign-off or a re-qa
11:29 I'm happy to help with testing/qa of it though once we've worked out that
11:30 I'de also love to se the plack/nginx patches get some refreshed love ;)
11:31 for those though, I'd love to get together with eythian and see what he think in regard to how those patches fit into packages
11:33 I'm about to QA bug 6331
11:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6331 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , Obsolete marc column in deleteditems
11:33 ashimema just so we don't overlap on work
11:34 cait ashimema: i won't be much help with plack/nginx i think... eythian's opinion would be certainly good
11:34 ashimema: make sure it has no information that is needed somewhere :)
11:35 ashimema Yeah.. I'm just waiting for a opportune moment to catch him.
11:35 yeah.. that's my main thoughts..
11:36 cait him being in nz doesn't make it easier - i know that :)
11:36 best bet is probably in your evening :(
11:36 ashimema Is he actually back in nz now?
11:37 cait ashimema: could you take alook at 11069?
11:37 that#s the big record one i did yesterday
11:37 ashimema: yep has been for quite a while
11:37 ashimema I've lost track of his europe trip dates.
11:37 oh.. silly me
11:37 cait hehe understandable
11:37 rule of thumb
11:37 wahanui rule of thumb is that if JS isn't working on a translation, look for JS errors that have crept in.
11:37 cait if it's summer here, he might be around :P he likes avoiding winter
11:37 ashimema sure, I'll try and fit it in.
11:38 haha.. sounds sensible..
11:38 though I like skiing in NZ in their winter
11:40 cait :)
11:40 oh another request
11:40 could you give 10944 a nudge? I ownder if my https setup was faulty
11:40 is faulty a word?
11:40 well wonder if it was my fault that it didn't work and not the patch's
11:41 ashimema yup, faulty is a word.
11:41 OK.. it's added to my queue
11:42 that's a very interesting bug.. didn't know amazon had shipped an ssl version of the images..
11:42 that get me excited ;)
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11:44 ashimema ack.. 6331 needs a followup
11:45 cait ashimema: apparently only for .com... i could be more excited :)
11:45 actually i would like the server to get the pictures in general over the client... but not sure about the terms of use with amazon, probably not allowed
11:47 ashimema yeah.. Mark does a fetch to server on one of his apps but it's a blatent infringment on terms of service.. (and amazon have now blocked the server)
11:48 cait ew
11:48 we have a german provider of cover data now that has some quite good terms of use, i hope to implement that for 3.16
11:48 but the server getting the pictures bt... i have a poc (with rangi's help) but it's quite hacky
11:49 looking at bug 11035 now
11:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11035 normal, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Signed Off , Replace shortcut plugin jquery.hotkeys.min.js
11:50 cait hm haven't seen oleonard in a while
11:52 hm yui is bsd licsense - so i guess it's compatible?
11:53 ashimema poc?
11:53 wahanui poc is Proof Of Concept
11:53 ashimema aha
11:53 I would gues so
11:54 cait.. there needs to be a second followup on 6331, but once it's done can I get you to QA that one.. I can't now as colin did the first followup whilst I was failing it..
11:54 great minds obviosly think alike
11:54 cait bug 6331
11:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6331 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Failed QA , Obsolete marc column in deleteditems
11:55 cait yes, i will keep it on my list
11:55 remind me if I don't do it this week :)
11:55 ashimema I'm just doing the second followup myself now.. seeing as Colin has now made it so I can't QA it anyways..
11:55 cait please check if it is really unused
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12:01 cait bug 11035 passed qa
12:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11035 normal, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Passed QA , Replace shortcut plugin jquery.hotkeys.min.js
12:02 cait looking at 11249 now
12:13 ashimema: i will wait until it's signed off again - so i can do qa on the marc column one
12:14 now looking at bug 11249
12:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11249 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Add db indexes on borrowers names
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12:32 ashimema hmm 10944 doesn't work for me either cait..
12:32 cait bug 10944
12:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10944 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , Mixed content warnings in results and detail with Amazon images on https
12:32 cait ashimema: not good, but kinda glad it was not me
12:32 ashimema and i've definitely got https setup correctly for the rest of the site.
12:33 I'm wondering if it's beacue i'm using bririths site amazon.
12:33 cait could you leave a note with your results?
12:33 bri...?
12:33 i just switched on the cover things, you don't need the keys
12:33 and think i kept the locale the same
12:34 but hardcoding the locale could be a problem for non-english covers? not sure if it's one big pool or not
12:34 ashimema mm
12:34 investigating futher so i can write a usefull comment
12:34 cait thanks a lot
12:35 i am still pondering the indexes
12:35 trying to make sense of the mysql documentation there
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12:41 cait 11249 passed too
12:42 ashimema Your on a mission today arent you cait
12:42 cait lol trying
12:43 but now i have to get ready for another trip to the city... taking advantage of this vacation and avoiding the big christmas shopping crowds :)
12:43 ashimema ooh.. my toys have just arrived.. new ssd for me
12:43 cait hehe :)
12:43 ashimema good plan
12:43 cait yeah still have to figure out what to do with mine, i put the old harddrive in when i got back
12:45 ashimema do you have to set 'using_https' template variable somehow?
12:45 cait ashimema: i found no pref about it
12:45 not sure how it does look it up
12:45 maybe it's broken
12:46 i wondered if it was not working if you use localhost or something in my case
12:46 ok, gotta run :) bbl
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12:52 ashimema got the bugger.. it's not implemented for bootstrap
12:53 tcohen hi ashimema
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12:57 pablito hi koha experts!
12:57 Is anyone available to help me with a few Koha questions?
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13:14 tcohen shoot
13:15 someone will answer, eventually :-D
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13:21 francharb good morning all
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13:38 magnuse kia ora NateC
13:39 pablito ok
13:41 is the use the of 008 necessary for Koha?
13:41 tag 008
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14:04 pablito If I have a book with multiple languages how would I specify in MARC?
14:07 tcohen it looks like it is field 041
14:07 http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd041.html
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14:13 pablito ok thanks
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14:17 tcohen pablito: it looks like you need to repeat subfield $a in 041 for each language
14:18 pablito i see
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14:21 ashimema Hi tcohen
14:23 bugs are now required to work on bootstrap now right.. wondering wether to fail QA and ask for followup.. or just ask for followup on bug 110944
14:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]bug.cgi?id=110944 was not found.
14:23 jcamins pablito: you should always ask questions in-channel.
14:24 And, tcohen is correct.
14:24 ashimema bug 10944
14:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10944 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , Mixed content warnings in results and detail with Amazon images on https
14:24 pablito ack :-)
14:25 magnuse ashimema: i'd say fail qa and ask for followup, we can't risk the bootstrap theme falling behind
14:26 but cait and gmcharlt should probably weigh in on that
14:35 tcohen magnuse: maybe a "not enough" flag :-D
14:36 magnuse yeah! :-)
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14:39 ashimema Cheers magnuse.. that was my thoughts too..
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15:14 gmcharlt @alter tell cait regarding your question on bug 11035, I'll add a follow-up updating About>Licenses for the new component; in general, yes, that should be updated when a new separately-licensed library is added
15:14 huginn gmcharlt: I suck
15:14 gmcharlt @later tell cait regarding your question on bug 11035, I'll add a follow-up updating About>Licenses for the new component; in general, yes, that should be updated when a new separately-licensed library is added
15:14 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
15:19 druthb @quote random
15:19 huginn druthb: Quote #93: "Koha is not an acronym, so it should not be in all-capitals. Koha is a Maori word." (added by wizzyrea at 07:20 PM, September 09, 2010)
15:19 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
15:20 druthb shut up, wahanui.
15:20 wahanui druthb: huh?
15:20 druthb wahanui: botsnack cookie, to keep you quiet.
15:20 wahanui :)
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15:34 nengard morning all
15:35 anyone know the syntax to query an indicator field using extractxml in mysql?
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16:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11035: (follow-up) update licenses section <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]376bd81e4c2d915b5> / Bug 11035: (follow-up) move shortcut.js <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]999cc1609a739cb94> / Bug 11035: (follow-up) update offline circ manifest <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ommitdiff;h=58432
16:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #1534 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:15 Project Koha_3.12.x build #136: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/136/
16:15 * Owen Leonard: Bug 9294 - Move JavaScript out of circulation template
16:15 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9294: Followup : add missing lines.
16:15 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10884: circulation table: fix odd behavior on checkboxes
16:16 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10935: fix breakage of CSV acq exports when using a non-English translation
16:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9294 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move JavaScript out of circulation template
16:16 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10935: (follow-up) adding a line break to fix first list item
16:16 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10535: (follow-up) add test case
16:16 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10535: (follow-up) wrap Budgets.t in transaction
16:16 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10038: fix doubled 'default' entry when creating a new authority type
16:16 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10038: (follow-up) fix tabs
16:16 * Owen Leonard: Bug 10850 - give quick spine label template page its own ID
16:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10884 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Circulation table: odd behavior on checkboxes
16:16 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10935 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , CSV for basket and basketgroup are broken when translated
16:16 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10535 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , by default sort funds by name
16:16 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10038 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Doubled 'default' entry when creating a new authority type
16:16 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10850 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Give Quick spine label template page its own id
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16:20 * cait waves :)
16:21 * francharb waves back ;)
16:21 cait :)
16:21 gmcharlt: ok, then i will make it mandatory next time before passing qa .9
16:21 gmcharlt cool
16:21 cait .9 = :) when missing shift on my german keyboard....
16:21 gmcharlt heh
16:22 * druthb waves to cait and gmcharlt and francharb
16:22 francharb :)
16:22 cait hi druthb
16:23 having tea in my favourite bookstore with free wifi and cake :D
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16:25 cait talljoy: i always read that as D&D
16:25 what does it really mean?
16:25 talljoy do not disturb.
16:25 i was just saying i read it as D&D too
16:26 * mtompset laughs, "I've had that thought in passing in the past too, cait."
16:26 mtompset Greetings, cait talljoy #koha
16:26 talljoy hi mtompset
16:29 cait talljoy: well you better not disturb someone playing dungeons and dragons
16:29 talljoy lol
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16:30 cait especially the dragons...
16:31 * talljoy rolls her 12 sided die
16:39 cait 12-sided???
16:39 :)
16:40 what kind of weapon is that? :)
16:40 ok, couldn#t resist, just ignore me :)
16:48 talljoy do you use a die in d&D?
16:48 i just guessed, i could be way wrong.
16:48 * talljoy played with dolls as a youngster
16:49 jcamins cait: it's used in the mathnet D&D for the dodecagonal dagger.
16:49 cait talljoy: yep lots of dice
16:49 jcamins. ...
16:50 jcamins Apparently no one who isn't related to me knew about mathnet.
16:50 cait jcamins: and thx for the mackerel update
16:50 :)
16:50 jcamins cait: it was excellent.
16:50 cait jcamins: i bought tons of the chocolate i gave you in reno for xmas - good or bad idea?
16:50 jcamins Depends.
16:50 cait uhoh
16:50 on what?
16:50 jcamins If you have to give it away, bad idea.
16:50 Otherwise, brilliant!
16:51 Mmm... unless you're giving it to me, in which case, still brilliant.
16:51 cait it's for presents... but i hope the family will share a bit
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16:52 cait killed the app ... maybe it doesn't like chocolate? :)
16:53 nengard: around?
16:53 nengard yes
16:53 cait the notices tab shows the overdues :)
16:53 or did you mean the postal ones?
16:53 nengard no ... i mean email ones
16:53 cait it shoudl
16:53 nengard i'm not seeing them for any of our partner sites ...
16:53 cait it just picks every message for the borrower from the message queue table
16:53 hm it used to in 3.6 - i am very sure of that
16:53 nengard overdues don't go in to th emessage queue table
16:53 i don't think
16:53 cait we only recently updated to 3.12, no complaints so far
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16:54 * Blou: Bug 11035: Replace shortcut plugin jquery.hotkeys.min.js
16:54 * Blou: Bug 11035: (follow-up) update offline circ manifest
16:54 * Galen Charlton: Bug 11035: (follow-up) move shortcut.js
16:54 * Galen Charlton: Bug 11035: (follow-up) update licenses section
16:54 cait they go there
16:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11035 normal, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Pushed to Master , Replace shortcut plugin jquery.hotkeys.min.js
16:54 nengard hmmmm
16:54 cait all our libraries are sending out overdues... and it's a sensitive spot
16:54 i woudl have commented on the bug... but tablet... and not logged in... and meh. :)
16:55 it#s how i test a lot too - if you don't have any in message_queue maybe something is wrong with config or how the job was run
16:55 nengard alright i'm poking at a bunch of sites to see if I can find them
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16:55 cait they can have any letter code
16:56 maybe some of them changed it
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16:57 nengard cait are you saying the letter code has to be ODUE for it to show?
16:57 cait nope the letter code shouldn't matter
16:57 nengard Cause I'm looking at the third library site now that has overdues enabled and no overdues in the notices tab
16:57 cait just when you check, it might be they are not using ODUE at all but some etter codes they made up
16:58 nengard I'm not looking at the db ... I'm looking at the Notices tab on the patron records and I see hold notices, advanced notices, item due notices .... but no overdue notices
16:58 ever
16:58 cait hmm
16:58 i can#t test right now :(
16:58 nengard k
16:58 cait away from home and the laptop
16:58 nengard no prob
16:58 cait i hope it didn't change... i can try test a little later maybe
16:59 nengard FINALLY
16:59 I found one
16:59 but the notices were sent in 2011
16:59 still none that are recent
16:59 finding more
17:01 francharb nengard, on the patron records, at the notices tab
17:01 nengard yes, i found one
17:01 francharb you'll never have the overdue option
17:01 unless something changed lately
17:02 nengard so many differring opinions :)
17:02 I see an overdue notice on the notices tab for a patron I just found
17:02 first one I ever saw
17:02 francharb oh sorry
17:02 I know what you mean
17:03 it shows which notices has been sent to the patron, right?
17:03 mtompset @seen marcelr
17:03 huginn mtompset: marcelr was last seen in #koha 1 day, 8 hours, 55 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <marcelr> not sure, could be :)
17:04 * mtompset whistles as data transfer occurs. :)
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17:04 cait i looked at the code now - that works from here :) and it looks like the sql just goes to the message queue table and selects all for a given patron number
17:05 francharb: it doesn#t work for printed, only for email
17:05 francharb yes
17:06 but I was referring to the table with every notices a patron can receive
17:06 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5031: (follow-up) correct tabs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]21280ee2f8139a796> / Bug 5031: CSV profiles: validate required content fields <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dc798e9300abeed31>
17:12 magnuse @later tell rangi: https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug[…]90849#txn-1297943 & https://github.com/LibreCat/Ca[…]2f20412f7daa2b5aa :-)
17:12 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
17:16 gmcharlt @later tell khall I'd appreciate an eye on my latest comment on bug 2546
17:16 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
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17:34 * Nicole C. Engard: update HighlightOwnItemsOnOPACWhich
17:34 * Nicole C. Engard: update autoBarcode
17:34 * Nicole C. Engard: remove Encumbrance and Expenditure since they're hidden
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17:36 * Nicole C. Engard: update autoBarcode
17:36 * Nicole C. Engard: remove Encumbrance and Expenditure since they're hidden
17:36 Starting build #398 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:36 Project Koha_Docs build #398: SUCCESS in 20 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/398/
17:36 * Nicole C. Engard: update HighlightOwnItemsOnOPACWhich
17:36 * Nicole C. Engard: update autoBarcode
17:36 * Nicole C. Engard: add new fund warnings
17:41 reiveune bye
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17:52 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5031: CSV profiles: validate required content fields
17:52 * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 5031: (follow-up) correct tabs
17:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5031 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , CSV export profile form doesn't indicate that profile marcfields are required
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17:54 cait back from a real computer:)
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18:08 * Blou: Bug 11035: Replace shortcut plugin jquery.hotkeys.min.js
18:08 * Blou: Bug 11035: (follow-up) update offline circ manifest
18:08 * Galen Charlton: Bug 11035: (follow-up) move shortcut.js
18:08 * Galen Charlton: Bug 11035: (follow-up) update licenses section
18:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11035 normal, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Pushed to Master , Replace shortcut plugin jquery.hotkeys.min.js
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18:31 magnuse druthb! cait!
18:31 cait magnuse!
18:31 wahanui it has been said that magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
18:32 magnuse muharharhar!
18:32 cait heh
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19:23 cait bug 8368
19:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8368 critical, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , List email broken for non english templates
19:25 rangi http://grooveshark.com/#!/ranginui/broadcast   <-- radio #koha
19:26 cait morning rangi
19:26 rangi morning
19:29 now you can all listen to what im listening too, and suggest/add songs etc :)
19:29 cait no grooveshark in germany :(
19:29 rangi big media and the govt lackeys are such dicks
19:32 coffee time, brb
19:36 back
19:37 gaetan_B bye !
19:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #137: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/137/
19:49 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10298: Followup: Adapt existing code
19:49 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10298: Mock C4::Context->preference
19:49 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10843: fix crash that can occur when confirming hold if ReservesMaxPickUpDelay is undefined
19:49 * Frédéric Demians: Bug 8368: fix email lists from OPAC when using non-English templates
19:49 * Galen Charlton: Bug 8368: (follow-up) port change to the Bootstrap OPAC; restore ISBN display
19:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10298 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , t::lib::Mocks tries to deal with syspref but doesn not manage to
19:49 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8368: (follow-up) restore use of quoted printable for message body
19:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10843 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , print a slip can cause an error
19:49 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8368 critical, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , List email broken for non english templates
19:51 cait tcohen is busy :)
19:51 hm i wonder
19:51 * magnuse remembers that he is supposed to upgrade to 3.12.7 round about now
19:52 cait tcohen is still picking form master, right? because 3.14 is not maintained currently?
19:53 rambutan I didn't even know there was music in the world like that.
19:54 rangi cait: yep,
19:54 well not maintained by the elected maintainer
19:54 gmcharlt has pushed some things to it
19:55 cait hm
19:55 not so good.
19:57 * gmcharlt gets out the Stick of Poking
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19:58 pablito hi everyone
19:58 * cait gets out ... the cookie jar
19:58 pablito haha
19:58 cait if you shake that, will the developers come out?
19:58 it works with cats and their treats...
19:59 pablito or knock, knock ... :-)
20:00 * gmcharlt suddenly has an unaccountable urge to get tickets and fly to Germany
20:00 cait *muahah* :)
20:00 you totally should oen day :)
20:00 pablito will Koha give an error if the author field is empty for a book?
20:01 especially on import
20:01 cait nope
20:01 it won't complain if you leave the title empty even... but it will not look really nice
20:03 * magnuse remembers to change from squeeze to oldstable before the upgrade
20:03 pablito thanks!  I love coming to this channel
20:05 magnuse yeah, there are some awesome people in here!
20:06 mtompset 3.14 isn't maintained?!
20:07 We don't have an RM for 3.14.x?
20:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1535: SUCCESS in 1 hr 58 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1535/
20:07 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5031: CSV profiles: validate required content fields
20:07 * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 5031: (follow-up) correct tabs
20:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5031 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , CSV export profile form doesn't indicate that profile marcfields are required
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20:09 cait mtompset: we have
20:09 an Rmaint elected
20:13 magnuse 10 minutes to upgrade 18 installations, not too bad (most of the time spent updating 6 translations)
20:13 packages++
20:15 cait :)
20:18 mtompset Indeed! Yay for packages.
20:22 How is history.txt maintained?
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20:28 wizzyrea by hand.
20:28 cait by sending patches for it
20:37 rangi be rangi
20:37 wahanui There's a bug for that
20:37 rangi be rangi
20:37 wahanui There's a bug for that
20:37 rangi be rangi
20:37 wahanui There's a bug for that
20:37 rangi bug 7143
20:37 wahanui bug 7143 is, like, ready for an easy signoff
20:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
20:37 rangi be rangi
20:37 wahanui There's a bug for that
20:37 rangi i wish its random was not so random
20:38 cait be cait
20:39 be rangi
20:39 wahanui Send a patch!
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20:39 tcohen ok!
20:39 rangi heh
20:39 gmcharlt be gmcharlt
20:39 wahanui Here, kitty kitty kitty...
20:40 cait be cait?
20:40 wahanui hmpf.
20:41 cait :)
20:41 be cait
20:41 wahanui!
20:41 wahanui i am a bot
20:41 cait be wahanui
20:41 wahanui Look at me! I'm a bot! Beep beep! Boop boop!
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20:48 mtompset be tcohen
20:48 Good, you aren't predictable enough yet, tcohen. ;)
20:49 I was just pondering tcohen's email about the notion of a "is my version EOL? are there newer versions?" added to the about.
20:50 Release history could be pretty to graph, but extrapolating EOL seems kind of difficult.
20:57 tcohen hi mtompset
20:58 it has to get its data from a live place
20:58 mtompset We don't have a live place with the data in a currently easily re-usable format, do we?
20:59 tcohen maybe the community site's rss feed
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21:00 cait hm what about the packages?
21:00 it could check for packages with  new version number maybe
21:00 not sure if that's a dumb idea :)
21:01 gmcharlt cait: the few RHEL users of Koha out there might be offended ;)
21:01 cait hmm
21:02 mtompset where is the community site's rss feed?
21:05 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/feed/
21:06 tcohen we have two fronts: people installing from packages and from source
21:07 with the current packages pocket schema, everyone will be offered to upgrade
21:07 mtompset wizzyrea: How would I know that? I don't see that funky RSS symbol anywhere on the koha-community.org site.
21:08 wizzyrea file a bug if it bothers you.
21:09 mtompset It just seems silly to have functionality, but no mention of it visibly.
21:09 wizzyrea see above ;)
21:09 it's wordpress, it does it whether you want it to or not
21:10 mtompset file a bug where?
21:11 wizzyrea on bugzilla.
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22:01 tcohen jcamins?
22:01 wahanui it has been said that jcamins is the best cookie-chef in #koha.
22:02 tcohen bug 10957
22:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10957 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , 710$a with 710$b (subordinate unit) present shows wrong (XSLT)
22:02 tcohen cait around?
22:02 cait partially :)
22:03 tcohen do u remember that bug? is a really simple one
22:04 i remember jcamins told me to leave those --
22:09 cait tcohen: i just wondered because result list and detail page seem inconsistent
22:10 also some subfields are noted as  repeatable, but i think the code doens't always loop through them
22:10 tcohen oh, that's why it is F-QA
22:11 i think i covered that in the code...
22:13 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "if there's at least one $b use ". ", then loop" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/11
22:14 cait tcohen: the output on rsults is different than on the detail page
22:14 could you check that?
22:14 i have added an example in my comments on what i did
22:17 tcohen I'll try to remember what was this about actually
22:17 francharb bye!
22:17 tcohen i dont' remmebber changing the current behaviour besides managing to put a dot
22:17 or a dot and a space in some other case
22:17 heh
22:17 cait hm
22:18 maybe i misunderstood - but it owuld help if one of us understands how it works :)
22:18 i am too tired to make sense of it i think :)
22:23 tcohen heh
22:23 tomorrow at work i'll revisit the patch and the purpose, i have a ticket from one library asking for that fix
22:24 they took the time to explain it better
22:24 cait thx :)
22:24 tcohen heh
22:28 * mtompset waves at tcohen.
22:30 mtompset Needs to run.
22:30 Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha.
22:31 eythian hi
22:32 cait hi eythian
22:34 tcohen hi eythian
22:34 eythian hello cait, tcohen
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22:43 trea hey #koha does patron category get transmitted in a sip2 transaction?
22:44 is that what the "AA" field is?
22:47 rangi yeah its one of the fields
22:48 wizzyrea hm I see type but not category code
22:48 cait hm
22:48 what would a self check do with it?
22:48 rangi sell it
22:49 cait always so optimistic :)
22:49 rangi i dunno, they do all sorts of utterly ridiculous things
22:49 cait i mean it's an ILS specific thing
22:49 trea what would a self check do with category code cait? or you talking about something else
22:49 cait i am not sure what a self check would use it for
22:49 rangi sip is not just for selfchecks
22:49 hasnt been for a long time
22:49 its been extended for all sorts of stuff
22:49 trea right. in this case it's not a selfcheck, but rather another mad scheme
22:49 rangi mostly cos proprietary ils have no api
22:50 wizzyrea computer reservation systems, for example
22:50 rangi and thats the only way you can talk to them
22:50 overdrive
22:50 wahanui overdrive is evil.
22:50 rangi etc
22:50 wizzyrea might give different amounts of time to different patron categories
22:50 rangi yeah
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22:50 cait hmmok
22:50 wizzyrea what's the basic problem you're trying to solve trea?
22:51 rangi thats what the extensions stuff is for
22:51 wizzyrea i mean, what is the library trying to implement?
22:52 trea sorry to be ambiguous. they want to be able to restrict access based on category code, which i'm just trying to verify if that's currently even transmitted.
22:52 it's for an ebook program (not overdrive)
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22:54 * wizzyrea just always looks for the essential problem is all
22:54 wizzyrea in that case, yea they probably do need it
22:55 * cait agrees
22:56 rangi FID_PATRON_CLASS
22:56 FID_PATRON_CLASS           => 'PC',
22:56 # SIP Extensions used by Envisionware Terminals
22:56 FID_PATRON_BIRTHDATE       => 'PB',
22:56 FID_PATRON_CLASS           => 'PC',
22:56 so PC is what you want to look for trea
22:57 rambutan It can also be used to grant access to the Internet for public access computing. We use it with Userful for that purpose now.
22:57 trea aha - ok
22:57 rangi where are you looking for this, so i can stop asking if they exist ;)
22:58 gmcharlt $resp .= maybe_add(FID_PATRON_CLASS,     $patron->ptype);
22:58 C4/Sip/MsgType.pm
22:58 rangi i look in C4/SIP/Sip/Constants.pm
22:59 gmcharlt in turn, line 71 of C4/SIP/ILS/Patron.pm is where we see that categorycode is indeed what is getting used to populate that
22:59 rangi yep
22:59 i find the message first, then grep for it
23:01 trea and i do see in fact that that code is being transmitted. thanks all
23:01 rangi cool
23:01 trea rangi++ wizzyrea++ gmcharlt++
23:02 rangi if you asked that about NCIP
23:02 id have to get back to you in 3 weeks time
23:02 trea hehe
23:02 rangi even though im writing it, its so verbose you have to wade through a ton of stuff to find it
23:02 trea you're not making me feel hopeful for the future rangi :P
23:03 rangi heh its not the future
23:03 ncip is the past :)
23:03 the future is a lot better
23:03 we just have to move libraries about 15 years out of the past, to now .. even now is better :)
23:04 its not next gen, its "only 12 instead of 13 gens ago" tech ;-)
23:05 wizzyrea kek next gen.
23:05 rangi we should make tshirts
23:05 "Your next gen, is my last millenium"
23:06 trea hehe
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23:12 dcook wizzyrea: Do you recall what bug it was that fixed the issue where searching in the system preferences stripped out words from the preferences?
23:12 wizzyrea errr
23:12 that doesn't sound familiar to me... not sure what you mean?
23:12 dcook Ah, I thought that I talked to you about it a while ago. Maybe not.
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23:13 dcook Well, in older versions of Koha (like 3.8), if you search for "user" in the system preferences, it will strip the word "user" out of your opacuserjs, opacusercss, etc.
23:13 Which is problematic if you're using the id "usersuggestions"
23:13 It would be truncated to "suggestions"
23:13 wizzyrea bug 9404
23:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9404 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Search of global system preferences deletes css and js code on Save
23:14 dcook You are the best
23:14 wizzyrea++
23:14 wizzyrea well bug 8401 actually
23:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8401 critical, P3, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED FIXED, Search term deleted from system preference content
23:14 dcook wizzyrea++
23:14 More karma!
23:15 * wizzyrea is happy to help
23:16 wizzyrea that's a stinky bug.
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23:16 dcook It really really is
23:17 Such an easy fix too
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23:17 dcook Hmm, I really need to start using advanced search more...
23:17 The problems I encounter have almost always been fixed already
23:18 * dcook also takes this as a sign that upgrading is a goooood idea
23:18 wizzyrea i find that on things pre-3.12 too, generally
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23:35 tcohen hi rangi
23:36 * dcook waves to tcohen
23:36 dcook Congratulations, btw ;)
23:36 tcohen is it possible to get CC or at least get notified when a bug is filled for some specific category. like, say, "Packages"
23:36 thanks dcook and hi :-D
23:45 cait tcohen: i think yes, but not sure if you can sign up for a module yourself
23:45 tcohen thanks cait, i'll write rangi later

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